Faction Map Update?

[buoyant patio]

We need an option to add the other faction players onto the map in PVE, like when im on crimson shield you see other players on the map that are in your faction why not add the option 2 see the other factions whereabouts so we can see the other players on the map but change there icon colour to Green for Lamang, Mithras in Blue & CRIMSON in Red like when I'm playing PvE id like to know who's in there area etc. just a thought!!

[feral lotus]

The only problem with this is we just don't know if in the future there will eventually be some sort of competition loot/task wise between the factions.

[waxen spire]

how does that matter if its PvE anyway? Whether you compete for anything at all, you cannot stop each other.

That being said, competition of this kind in PvE I believe would be very unpopular. I'd rather see more options for cooperation in PvE rather than some sort of Competition being added to PvE. It doesn't make sense.

[feral lotus]

My point is that we don't know what ground zero is going include, we just don't know yet and until we do we can't be sure something like this will fit in properly imo.

[rancid blade]

I honestly would find "competition" good in PvE. Just because someone can't shoot you doesn't mean it needs to be peaceful co-existence all the time.

Now, I do enjoy random teamups, but friendly competition is also fun.

[foggy bobcat]

I have a theory that the reason they’re working on just building out all these PvE focused features is that GZ will become the PvP area and everywhere else will be PvE. No more separated game modes. Kinda like the DZ in the Division.

I would like the option, at least for now, to be able to see other factions on the PvE map, though. Sometimes get the shit scared outta me when a different faction member walks up behind me when I’m getting pinned down from LAF or something like that and I thought I was the only one there.

[runic fiber]

It won’t. It’s a pve game. They only have PvP to appease more players and streamers for advertisement. The devs themselves said that PvP is not and never will be the focus of the game. They want to make a pve game with deep lore. That’s it.

[foggy bobcat]

And the DZ wasn’t really the focus of the Division. It was just another aspect of the game. Nearly all MMO’s include some sort of PvP section, so it would seem strange to me if there wasn’t an area dedicated to that in the future like GZ.

[runic fiber]

MMOs are typically PvP by default. (I don’t have any experience with Division). The core gameplay is designed with PvP functions, objectives and purpose in the games universe. Greyzone is not. PvP is only possible because the ability to kill players is turned on. That’s it. There’s no other function or purpose in the story of the game. The lore even states that the factions are working together to uncover the islands mysteries. It’s a pve coop game, but even with that, you have no core functions that enable cooperation with other factions. You can’t even see them on the map. The games identity crisis is a major immersion breaker at the moment.

[cold forge]

Problem is, we all believe that Ground Zero will be the endgame. That means that your example regarding DZ not being the focus of Division doesn't fit. If Ground Zero is the endgame it wouldn't make sense to make it PvP when the leadup to it is all PvE.

That would effectively lock a majority of the playerbase out of endgame content.

[uneven dove]

i’m very much on board with encouraging some sort of competitive spirit between the factions.

it’s just very strange to me that this game has factions as this foundational component of its lore and setting. and yet currently in PvE it doesn’t really mean anything. and instead of advocating for making them more meaningful, the consensus from the PvE playerbase seems to be to make them even more meaningless.

this direction frankly sounds boring to me. i play PvE because i don’t like fighting other players, but having a more big-picture rivalry with the factions sounds way more interesting to me. this isn’t really a foreign concept either, WoW is what immediately comes to mind for me.

that being said i’m not opposed to somehow better facilitating members from other factions teaming up. idk if it should be a default “see everyone on the map” tho.