PvE: Make everyone visible on map

[nimble lichen]

I go to PvE now for cool slow paced NVG action. It sucks to prepare and talk about a tactical entry with a mate, prepare the gear and when you get to the locations the "enemy" factions are all over the place and everything is dead. This way we could actually plan where to go (where no one is) no matter if we have a task for the area or just want to play some tactical sandbox style stuff.

I think its too many players anyway on PvE servers and feels more like a shooting range at times when helicopters come in and out all the time with like 10 players at a location - but thats another topic lol 😄

[eager peak]

totally agreed, i think now its kinda better since the game doesnt give everyone LZs for HP BP and SM its more balanced and you dont have 3 factions on one location

still the issue is somewhat prevalent

[boreal depot]

I disagree, I had the same idea before, but I think its immersive how it is rn, the real problem is that the map is so small and this just happens too often and its mainly a pve problem, in pvp you are happy when there is another faction present, bc you can atleast kill them after they killed all ai, they add to the experience, in pve there is nothing to kill anymore.

The real solution is more Point of interests

[nimble lichen]

Or less players on one servers .. or ... just one faction per PvE Server. I mean you cant see the other faction on the map, you cant write with them .. you can talk to them when standing in front but for what?

[sullen arrow]

Yes. It's Joint Ops. Also please allow team up and share tasks if sharing comes to life - like when doing kill x enemies or the boss.

[boreal depot]

I totally disagree, I think pve is more immersive than pvp in that sense, like in a real conflict you might not engange another pmc group, like pve is rn, but you also dont have any prior information about their operation in an area.

Just add more point of interests, so this happens 80% less

[sullen arrow]

It feels like "no aggression pact" not Joint Ops now...

[boreal depot]

yes

[sullen arrow]

In real life they would keep things secret from each other mostly though... So I'm on the fence with this one...

[boreal depot]

thats why I think its really good how its rn

[nimble lichen]

So you guys like it that you go - for example to sawmill and there are coming in 3 helicopters from different factions to a areas where everything is dead. One guy runs in to get the big heavy thing (dont remember the task name) and get back ASAP, get killed in the progress by a lone AI in a shed. He comes back as knife guy to get his kit. In the meantime two helicopters came in, seeing that everything is dead and leaving again. Its playing like some POIs are a highway toilet of people zooming by lol

Give me at least the option to see where I have to go if I want to play a bit realistic and tactical xD

[boreal depot]

". Its playing like some POIs are a highway toilet of people zooming by lol" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[nimble lichen]

Meanwhile I and a buddy sit on the hill trying to snipe while waiting for the darkness.

And around us is pure chaos

[boreal depot]

just wait until they add way more pois, it will happen 80% less then

[nimble lichen]

But will they add more POIs? I am not sure. We have some areas now that dont seem to be used but are pretty small where people just run and gun in and are done with it

[boreal depot]

Im pretty sure they will

[nimble lichen]

I dont think so. The faction bases are the outer edge.

We get the middle.. sure.. in 1.0

[boreal depot]

there is still room

I think the map is too small anyway

not enough pois anyway

tarkov feels bigger

[nimble lichen]

Where? I am curious. There should be and will be farmer land etc. You cant put a shopping mal into the new field of wind turbines

[nimble lichen]

Yeaaaah okay. You got me. But I dont count the middle. Thats 1.0 and pure endgame content. Both areas close to LRI not too - thats starting area and too close to it. But the others.. you are right. For sure the one in the far west

[boreal depot]

the circle right of LRI is on the other side, so no problem, idk how the area is on the left side, but if there is a mountain in between they can easily put something left of there too

What I personally want most is a container terminal on the bottom right

[nimble lichen]

The container terminal sounds very interesting and logical 🥹 💯

[boreal depot]

ur right

[boreal depot]

and top right a military port

[nimble lichen]

Lets agree on that one spot - that its maybe not the best for another big POI :D. LRI will get murdered

Now I am really ~~existed ~~ excited for that area to the west lol. never really noticed it. I was very excisted seeing the wind turbines from far away and the radio stations etc and never thought that they will put something like that there. The abandoned UNLRA Evac center is great to but no tasks for it so far

[boreal depot]

maybe unpopular opinion, but gzw map is trash, the 3 coppied starter towns are immersion killing

if they werent the same it would actually be fun to visit other faction starter towns

[nimble lichen]

I dont mind the starter towns. Its just the part where player get to learn the game - the "onboarding process". No need to make it different really

[boreal depot]

u mean excited?

[boreal depot]

no its just dumb

[nimble lichen]

It shouldnt be fun to go there. It breaks it for them. I was an asshole yesterday and the guys there really couldnt defend themselfes (Warfare). I even felt bad lol

[boreal depot]

imo pvp should be level locked anyway, like atleast lv5 or lv10 to be able to join pvp

[nimble lichen]

People would have to join a different gamemode and then change to warfare? Dont like that idea. Just let the starter towns be starter towns and dont give other people a real reason to go there.

[boreal depot]

I didnt say starter towns shouldnt exist, they should, just not be 1:1 the same, but be 3 different distinct locations that are interesting

[nimble lichen]

Would mean a lot of new different tasks and a balancing act so that one faction isnt "the way fastest to go through". It was discussed here since 0.1

[boreal depot]

in the west I would have the entire area reworked so there is room for a massive industrial zone maybe also with an area like tarkov labs, an underground labratory @nimble lichen

[nimble lichen]

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[boreal depot]

yeah and then you dont need your stupid idea anymore 😎 😄

[nimble lichen]

....... ...... ..... maybe make them visible till the problem is solved maybe way way down the road? If it is a easy thing to do.. maybe? 👀