#Ai defending Is Overpowered

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serene roost
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I’ve played competitive games my whole life, and honestly I’ve never felt a game babysit bad defending like this.
In most competitive games, if you don’t learn the mechanics, you get exposed. Simple.
Bad aim? You lose fights.
Bad positioning? You get punished.
Bad decisions? You get outplayed.
That’s how a skill gap is supposed to work.
But here it feels different.
You can spend time actually learning manual defending, switching properly, reading runs, tracking space… and still get punished because the AI is doing all the defensive work for your opponent

EA should make a poll and ask the community about the ai defending in this game

solid adder
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Ai defending is ruining the game, and i agree about the skill gap. This game is missing out on crucial part of that actually separates the good from the bad. I hate going against ppl who do not switch their players when they have a silver gulit.

low steppe
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Yes, they should make a poll. Yes, there should definitely be a skill cap.

hasty glacier
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A poll wouldn't change their business plan.

They asked us what our thoughts were on defending and attacking in like September or October. Even after a neutral response they still buffed the AI defenders

serene roost
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UP

keen needle
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The core is the community. Bad players keep pumping way too much money into the game to buy high rated players and expect to be handed the win. Therefore this company only and unfortunately listens to Timmys and Waldos who rather complain than actually learning how to play

solar roost
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Hi,
Yes EA should rewardind manual defending and nerf ai defending.
But i don t think they will...

compact peak
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they won't do anything they won't listen stop hoping these subhumans will change a thing

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they noly care about money

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don't buy the ai slop they produce

woeful sigil
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Why did they nerf keeper movement and not AI defending. Another thing is shoulder challenges. Opponents fly at you with bruiser+ and get away with every challenge no matter how brutal

viral thunder
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I agree, I lost to a really bad opponent. He attempted 44 tackles in the match and only managed 7. His player always recovered, or the AI ​​always stepped up to save the day... 😡😡😡

devout sandal
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Please NERF the PlayStyles:

✅ Technical
and
✅ Technical+

solar roost
serene roost
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UP

serene roost
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UP

hasty glacier
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Up

raw gyro
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Up

serene roost
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UP

fathom fable
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Ai defending exists* problem starts here

latent halo
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up

raw gyro
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Up

hasty glacier
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It's demoralizing and incredibly frustrating to play this game against people that rely on and abuse the AI defending. It's better to put the controller down as soon as you lose the ball because your AI will just win it back anyway.

The early access of this game was probably the most enjoyable product this group of developers released. Then they ruined it with patch 1.0.2:

-Improved positioning of players when playing with low defensive depth so that they’re not pushing too high up the pitch.

-Center Backs are now less likely to run wide when marking central attackers.

-False Backs (fullbacks too) now transition more intelligently to defense to better maintain defensive shape.

keen needle
fathom fable
thorn dagger
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Don't agree. AI defend is ok. Manual defend and jockey needs BUFF instead

keen needle
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How is it okay that half your team auto tackles players and follows every possible run while you’re sitting with your cdm doing nothing actively?

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You like just because it gives you way more wins that you should have

keen needle
fathom fable
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While having his 2 cdm staring at me and my st

fathom fable
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And thats because ai defending Is at perfect amount and manual defending is mostly rewarded

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Perfect amount= if opponent does a clearly covered pass they intercept it, otherwise if you dont take control of them, they wont track movement and take it alone

keen needle
fathom fable
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Ea should also start to solve that "meta content creators" issue, im not saying they have to ban or punish them, but if they do a tutorial It most likely means there is something to patch, they Just look and do nothing about that lol

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Almost every game i face 4411/451/442 with all at back, lot of CPU tackles, almost every game ends with my opponents did like 40 Xs and 70 Triangles (C R A Z Y) or something like this, still they don't nerf CPU and counters, i do like 180 Xs and 20 Triangles, its been years that playing like a relegation team rewards you Better than playing like prime barca etc

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Fifa was a funny skillful game with Crazy fast plays and skillmoves, longshots or dribbling gk, lot of variety based on personal skill, now you do 1 thing or you lose or are at least penalized

thorn dagger
devout sandal
keen needle
devout sandal
keen needle
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I do it every day unlike you spamming the same messages every day on every thread through multiple accounts

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100% Claudia Pina user right here

devout sandal
thorn dagger
devout sandal
keen needle
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Buddy agreed with himself with his second account 😭😭😭😭

keen needle
devout sandal
glossy herald
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@coral crescent Can u guys tell me ya vision of this super nice game? No one of u guys even spend 1min in divisions like 3 up to elite. U testing ya piece of sweetness just in division 10. Remove that cool AI. I cant stand these automatic tackles in my back anymore to get a counter attack on a opponent who cant even hold the controller. Never in 10+ years fifa i was able to lose against div 10 players like in this 2 years where AI turned to the max. Are u brain loved or what? How is it even possible that im gettin soaped if i know where i have to track runs or closing gaps on nice MANUAL? Hooooow is this possiiiiiibleeeeeee?????? Why does my defense players starting a run like 20y of delay while having quick step but if i do nothing my AI is faster, even if they 20m away of the opponent. And what is this Left Stick Dribbling, how it cant be possible to do a fast turn after a pass? U never watched football or even played by themselfs u circus actors of canada with zero football knowledge. Bret Hart should should go in his Dungeon with you idiots and teach some lessons.

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And this tactic system is a joke aswell. What is this offensive AI? Where are these bstrds running at? If i dont use Creative Run or Playerlock they doin absolutely nothing. Cant see free rooms, making gay sessions on offside, not movin …

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Ya whole game is broken like never before

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Are you feeling it now EA Sports? Are you feeling it? You feeling it right now?

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I swear what i even had to write. Killed/removed manual defending hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahaahhaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha. Oh my god hahahahhahahahaahahaahhaahaa. Never saw a game where a newbie is able to win against a tryhard but in this game its standard. I could write for years about this joke of game.

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Played a game, 6 times AI rushed into a triangle ball on a free player who was on his way 4 a free goal within 1 Half.

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Yeah nice, thats how u holding trash players in this game. Just imagine it would be few years ago. This guy would be 0:10 rage quit.

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By not tracking my player, u understand iiiiiiiiiiiiit?

keen needle
glossy herald
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@keen needle Ofc Div 10 players love AI. They also love no skillgap. Everything easy as much as possible and 4 sure less gaming by themself. Maybe in next time u can let AI play for you the whole game. Better i delete this because EA will put it in 4 sure 😂

keen needle
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Man it’s like if I play call of duty and expect my gun to have aim bot just because I can’t stand somebody is better than me

glossy herald
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4 real

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If i see how these guys rushing 50m sideways away of my players on manual, damn man, daaaamn. But doesent matter cause AI gonna fix it within 2secs.

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Yo EA, can u also create a AI whos sucking while im playing?

keen needle
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Can’t wait to try it

fathom fable
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As i said in my old feedback topic, people dont know what they want, saying "ai defending Is ok" and "nerf dribbling" Is exactly what a bad player wants for himself and couldnt care less of a Better game Who actually reward skill gap, yall prefer Easy win with no merit and want other nerfs on people better than you so you can win even more

fathom fable
keen needle
fathom fable
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And im not even good tbh, im mid, but still i want to play my way and manual defend, never used 4411 pina etc, i dont even care much if i win but i want to face different opponents with different formations, rn its like playing squad battles online, same team same style same cpu

glossy herald
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Played cup (nothing serious) and opponent didnt even switched 1 time to his defenders. He was not even running back with his CM‘s and what happend? Auto AI Attack. This is such a freaking joke.

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Back in days if a guy would do nothing i could go through his whole team just by left stick dribbling. My oh my …

fathom fable
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Funniest thing of this game is when people go AFK or want to let you score but instead of using offside trap they just drop controller and you can't score because CPU Will track all your movements and tackle you

glossy herald
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Played a game in rivals and asked opponent to defend on his own and well what should i say? Everytime i could go ez into his box. Before he was only Auto AI and i couldnt break through. When it comes to real skill all these guys are cooked. Its crazy 😂 Zero plan about tracking, movement, timing …

split haven
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Buff manual defending

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Nerf AI defending

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Why punish us for playing the game

glossy herald
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They love it. U dindnt see the trailer there they put in this streamer guy on beeing angry? 😂

patent pelican
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I’ve noticed that since the latest patch squad battle difficulty AI is way overpowered again

I don’t know if this is relative to what you’re talking about but now playing on world class feels like legendary and playing on pro feels like world class

This was going on a couple of months ago, but they fixed it and now it’s back to being terrible again

keen needle
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It’s because most of the kids complained they were losing online against better players so ea had to step in

fathom fable
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There are games like rainbow 6 that each half season checks most/less used operators and most/less used weapons or gadgets and do something to balance them with nerf/buff... How Is it possible that we are like at fifth consecutive game with through balls meta, third consecutive game where formations with CAM and 2 cdm/cm are too OP, defensive AI was ongoing to be a problem already in fifa22 or something like that and instead of removing It, they increased it

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Every game i play i check pass details, all my opponents finish games with like 40 Xs 50+ through balls, ofc someone have this gsme style and its ok, but if almost everyone does it, maybe there is a problem with op defence-counter?

lavish pond
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It's all assuming and theory... in practical the game is dying because kids don't even start to play because of gameplay, modes, negative feedbacks, etc...

keen needle
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I see only kids advocating for ai defending being strong while all the rest of the community isn’t , they’re the highest spending demographic so ea will prioritize them

lavish pond
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You imagine kids advocating or you see these kids? Because honestly twitch views are down by 25%, youtube is almost dead, in this discord i see 80/90% demonizing AI defending, sometimes saying bs without thinking about consequences... so if you know it's ok, but honestly i see 90 comments on nerfing/removing AI defending and maybe a few that say it's fair or need a buff...

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If there are feedbacks on improving AI defending they hide themselves really well... imo it's all EA assuming that kids won't buy points because they lose because the game is hard

fathom fable
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Tbh im at a point that i text almost every opponents i face, they all think they are good and competitive with their 4411 CPU Defense and through balls, and they actually talks like kids, he could be right lol

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CPU Defense is a major problem since "next gen versions", that shouldnt even be nerfed but removed, going back to old FIFAs, but tbh i see people only cares of wins, if they win they are better than you, simple as that, no One actually tries to play football with original plays, some dribbling or 1-2, they Just want to run and score, they dont want to defend, maybe in this thread we ask for nerf but the majority of the community wants this

lavish pond
# fathom fable Tbh im at a point that i text almost every opponents i face, they all think they...

And the same people could be the ones asking to nerf the cpu... so honestly it can be everything. I see they are not listening to us that are writing thousands of feedbacks so i can't say they are listening to people who are not even talking.
I agree that people don't know what they want, because they know 0 about football. EA should focus on representing football like they did in old fifas before the boom of socials. That's it. If you like football, you'll like the gameplay and then they can work on modes and everything they want, but gameplay should be football and should not be manipulated to make the game completely different through years.

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If i wanted to recreate the Messi chip goal vs Betis, in old fifas i could do try and succeed if i had enough skill to chip the keeper in that specific situation. In last fifas i don't need that skill, but the playstyle plus and the luck of randomness because everything is too heavily assisted

fathom fable
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Totally agree

hasty glacier
thorn dagger
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AI defending needs to be BUFFED

lavish pond
dapper forge
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Shittt game

thorn dagger
devout sandal
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EA needs to finally find the right balance to offer a good football game. We're at the end of March.

lavish pond
thorn dagger
lavish pond
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Bro literally everything affect the result, because the result is a consequence of everything hahahahaha

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If GKs are bad, are they bad because they are bad or they are bad because the shooting is too op? If shooting is op how shooting is op and why?

thorn dagger
lavish pond
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Broken doesn't mean bad. For me shooting is broken because:
-you can shoot from almost every angle without no consequence in effectiveness (that is not realistic nor logic because you should at least body position well the player before the shooting);
-some animations are completely stupid like you can make a finesse outside the box with the tip of the foot;
-defenders 90% of the time don't block shooting even if they are literally in front of the ball;
-the boost you're receiveing from precision shooting break the shooting-saving logic (you aim bad near the gk and the gk will not save the shot because of the power boost you received);
-overall is too easy to shot in top corners

Resuming, you don't need to create a clear chance. It's enough to be near the opponent's area and shoot with a good player (good stats or playstyles)

thorn dagger
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That's other topic.

lavish pond
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It's not other topic. Everything is connected

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If you can shoot in top corners from everywhere, AI Defending could be god, but can't do anything.

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Passing is too easy (heavily assisted) and you arrive near the opponent box in 0.1 secs. Near the opponent box you can shoot from almost everywhere as i said.

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If passing was more difficult, you won't have 15 goals per game because you won't be able to build a play so easy.

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Etc...etc...

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Another example: Bonanno vs MichaelFischerFC (epremier league, pro event, minutes ago). Bonanno scored 2 first post goals... he created the gap to shoot to aim first post (in football logic bad decision, we'd blame the keeper if we concede first post) but he scored.

thorn dagger
lavish pond
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Passing and manual defending are linked, because there are passes that you are not able to intercept properly (look through ball behind the fullbacks)

devout sandal
loud yew
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Up

serene roost
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UP

serene roost
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UP

warm bear
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Ea should really nerf ai defending and buff manual

fathom fable
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Its my choice to play with High defense and offensive fullbacks and i already deal with letal counters as consequence, at least let me defend what i can defend manually, if they actually overplay me ggs

plush sierra
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Yall still care for this game and thinking ea is actually gonna listen to yall? If you really think so yall are clowns 🤡

fathom fable
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At least they know a path to follow instead of listening both good and bad/arcade and simulation players and make a Total mess lol