#EAfixyourgame

[odd widget]

rivals is chill if you dont try you get your chill div where you win without sweat

and yeah wl is competitive but thats fine because its just 15 games every week (removing quali made it a lot better for casuals imo)

[neat oriole]

The whole wl formula is also questionable
Rewards are better and also why weekend? You exclude a chunk of players who can't play on the weekend

[odd widget]

Yeah they could make it a full week

I have to do all 15 sunday nights

[honest quail]

Why the ea not answering?

Someone call them on discord the fut will end and we didn’t play

[neat oriole]

See it's all catered to an iper competitive environment which then inevitably leads to toxicity
Why playing all games in a day? It just shouldn't be a thing
Remember when they were 40? Just insane

[odd widget]

Idk i didint play much online modes until 2-3 years ago

I just played Single Player seasons and cups in ut (remember them?) And later squad battles + sbb and battleship against friends

[neat oriole]

FIFA 17 had a tournament to qualify and then 40 games in the weekend

That's where the wl is from

[odd widget]

Yeah i was chilling in singleplayer and friendlies in fifa 17

No way of playing that + work

[toxic swan]

I hope your players eventually settle in the club and find their spirits. An increase in wages might tempt them?

[tall lava]

"#revertupdate"

[candid sapphire]

#revertupdate

[warm zodiac]

#revertupdate

[icy shore]

Nerf AI defending

Don't touch dribbling

[fierce umbra]

do touch dribbling

[candid sapphire]

REVERT R1 and slightly decrese AI and its perfect

[icy shore]

It feels practically the same except for one mechanic being nerfed.

If the AI was nerfed then this dribbling would be fine.

[tall lava]

How about they just completely revert everything and we all learn how to defend properly

[candid sapphire]

!!!

[tall lava]

Acctually nerf corners and fix kick off a little bit

Why are we expecting our unaglie cb to be able to turn with small agile players

[candid sapphire]

I wasnt struggling in defense before the patch so its tecnically you guys cant Defend its simple

[tall lava]

That’s not realistic

[fierce umbra]

this current dribbling is not fun though

it isn

isn't rewarding

[icy shore]

Because of the AI

[little viper]

its not fun nor rewarding absolutely

im back lads

#1431594667828580484

[fierce umbra]

and the dribbling is horrible

[icy shore]

Because you're controlling a football and not playing nhl

[candid sapphire]

Plus if u have PS+ you should be able to use them. Now the only ps+ that is good is jockey not any other so whats the points to put PS

[fierce umbra]

it's a video game, it's supposed to be fun and rewarding

not this ai simulator

[icy shore]

Rewarded for being good and mastering more than one button.

[tall lava]

Jockey plus is no different to normal jockey or no jockey now I have Kounde and hujsen and there no difference in the way they jockey

[candid sapphire]

Idk I have kounde and it feels more responsive than my stam but i could be wrong

Anyway both are too strong

[icy shore]

I would love for all the AI to be removed completely. It ruins the game. No one should get any help with anything.

[tall lava]

You played manual???

[icy shore]

I do actually

[tall lava]

Really

[icy shore]

Yes

[tall lava]

You okay everything in manual

Ply

Okay

Play

[icy shore]

Yes. If it can go manual it is

[tall lava]

So manual shooting

Passing

[icy shore]

Yes

[tall lava]

And your good at the game

[candid sapphire]

what div are U?

[icy shore]

I would have much more fun if they removed AI defending.

[tall lava]

Not what I asked

[fierce umbra]

he's div 5 NA

[icy shore]

I used to get around div 1 in fifa 14-17

[candid sapphire]

And now?

[tall lava]

That’s ten year’s ago

[candid sapphire]

🤣

[icy shore]

I am now because I don't enjoy playing the AI. I usually play clubs

[candid sapphire]

So ur not good at defending simple

Trying play elite division then comeback and tell me if this patch is good

[fierce umbra]

he plays NA bro, completely different game to us in europe

[tall lava]

How does no ai work how would you control 11 players?

[candid sapphire]

NA stands for?

[bronze halo]

Unplayable.

[candid sapphire]

north America ok

[fierce umbra]

north america, one of the easiest regions

[candid sapphire]

And he is in div 5

[fierce umbra]

yes

[candid sapphire]

So probably a div 7-8 in EU

[fierce umbra]

yes

[candid sapphire]

Nice

Casual player then

[icy shore]

Obviously you need something to keep in general position and basic movements but why do you need it to tackle, mark, fill space, chase etc.

It's way too powerful right now.

[static glen]

Revertupdate

[candid sapphire]

We are all saying that but u have to improve dribbling to reveal the skill gap between players

[soft forge]

yup I use percsion shooting better then assisted 100% u can score goals in precision wont go in with assisted the game is good before the patch is EA let us play for a whole month on 100% speed and everybody got used to the attacking defending dribbling then after a month they nerf everything and the game feels so slow they went from 100% speed to 50% speed Big brain EA and for those who yap about defending before the patch just learn how to defend its easy its not hard 99% of them uses thier cms to defend and then yap like ffs use your cbs morons

[candid sapphire]

Anyway EA tweeted that they are going to revert dribbling but any of u guys know when?

[tall lava]

That’s not manual then and I fully agree with what you say this patch is poo

[candid sapphire]

The AI ​​needs to be slightly nerfed, because all people currently do is place eight players in the penalty area and close you down with a double team. You have no chance of getting free. Skills against this AI are useless, the speed of the players in game doesn't reflect their stats and they can be caught by anyone. Finesse shots go in two out of ten times, and now that the auto block has been increased, it's even more difficult. You've eliminated the only mechanic that allowed you to see a skill gap: technical! If you're at least in division 3, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Otherwise, avoid replying to this thread because if you're in a lower division, you don't have the hours of play nor the skill level necessary to understand what I'm talking about. And remember, this is an arcade game that's meant to be fun, not to make people nervous trying to score a goal (most of which come by pure chance, not skill). And before you say I'm complaining because I can't win anymore, well, that's not the case because I've had 13 wins in WL, it's just that the game isn't fun anymore. However, the elimination of kick-offs and the defense's patch on corners are excellent.

I posted it here cause my thread was ignored 😅

[fierce umbra]

agreed

we only asked for kick offs and corners to be patched

not this fc 25 2.0 bs

[candid sapphire]

!

[soft forge]

true even the polls is good with old defemding and attacking

[fierce umbra]

exactly

don't understand the reason to patch

[bronze halo]

Fix corners, kick offs, teeny tiny jockey that’s it

nobody asked for ai defending

[candid sapphire]

9-8 goals per game where half of these comes from corners and kick off so patching only this would been great

[fierce umbra]

we would still have 5-6 goals per game which is fun

[candid sapphire]

Yh pretty fun

[icy shore]

But you see you just said it in there.

If the AI defending was nerfed there would be no reason to have controlled sprint be as fast as it was.

I was able to defend against it before. But it requires actual skill to use it properly now.

The skill gap should require players to be effective with more than one mechanic and everything about dribbling feels fine.

The AI is just too strong.

The only reason I wasn't playing more is because of time constraints.

[fierce umbra]

dribbling does not feel fine as a whole at all, gameplay is so slow and clunky and ai based

[little viper]

dribbling FEELS awful imo

[icy shore]

Then why can I still move almost exactly the same as before?

I've also watch streamers move almost exactly the same today.

Just not with the R1.

[fierce umbra]

don't know mate, just saying my game feels horrible ever since the patch

[little viper]

bro these AI posts on this server are getting out of hand there are so many

[fierce umbra]

and i'd very much like to know which streamers you've seen enjoying this new patch?

[icy shore]

Maybe because there are more people playing this weekend so the servers are sluggish.

It doesn't necessarily mean that the dribbling has been absolutely destroyed and everything needs to be reverted to how it was.

[little viper]

no way more ppl are playing this weekedn

[fierce umbra]

there've been many people playing last weekend too and the game still felt fun and good

[little viper]

definitely less ppl are playing

what do we think about kick offs and corners pre and post patch>?

apparently they addressed them

what do we think? better? worse?

[livid onyx]

56-4 through the first 4 weeks of champs, all my losses coming this week after this dogshit pacth

[icy shore]

Stokes said it was alright.

Inception likes it

Fuji was practically fidget spinning at one point.

Don't watch many streams but I pop in and out of random ones when I have time.

[livid onyx]

at least corners and kick offs are better

stokes doesnt like the patch, fake news

[fierce umbra]

no way inception likes this patch, man hated fc25, how can he like this

[livid onyx]

stokes literally said EA ruined attacking

and they did

[icy shore]

And last weekend you guys had the speed of controlled sprint to make up for everything else, jockey was also slower.

[fierce umbra]

just learn how to defend brother

all it needed

[livid onyx]

they always touch something thats not broken instead of mediating something that needs a buff

they never find the balance

never have

[icy shore]

I was defending fine.

I just feel like this dribbling is harder to master and that's how it should be.

The AI just needs to be nerfed

[little viper]

dribbling should be fun tho

and its not

i dont understand how a fun game is a bad thing

[icy shore]

It still is. Just not against the AI or in sluggish gameplay

[little viper]

when over 3000 ppl in this server dont like the dribbling post patch how can you say its good

[little viper]

every play takes 10 foot touches bro 🥀

its not just gameplay

[livid onyx]

every single attacking player is sluggish now

[little viper]

ive heard its bad offline and online

[icy shore]

Overreacting because it's actually more imbalanced now than before.

[fierce umbra]

i've mastered left stick dribbling my guy, r1 was just very good to drive up the pitch with into space. but since this patch my players feel like their stuck in mud, i can't turn, i can't left stick to save my life, and i can't use r1 for a few meters without my player basically falling over

[little viper]

we need an answer from ea

[little viper]

imbalanced this, unrealistic that how about fun. how about having fun in a video game

[livid onyx]

they set it up for competitive and authentic gameplay, if garbage timmies wanted to not face dribbling they should've stuck to career mode

[little viper]

cant we enjoy a fifa for once

[little viper]

preach

[livid onyx]

it was enjoyable until this patch

[little viper]

3000 people overreacted but you are the only one speaking the truth?

[icy shore]

Because more people are playing the new patch and for the content so the servers are sluggish even at their peak.

Wait until Monday

[little viper]

twas

stop coping

[livid onyx]

90% of the people saying W patch are div4 and below becayse they can sit in a back 9 and hit on the counter every single game

[little viper]

bro the game is cooked

[fierce umbra]

wasn't a problem until this patch

[icy shore]

I already saw this coming when I read the pitch notes

[little viper]

yeah why wasnt this an issue pre patch @icy shore

[livid onyx]

the losses i took before this, i deserved to lose 100% and now im losing to 5-4-1 gegenpressers with 99 depth

[icy shore]

Because less people were playing

[little viper]

why wasnt sluggish servers bad before

nahh you are trolling now

[fierce umbra]

that's just not true

[icy shore]

Less people on them

[livid onyx]

anyone else on pc having absolutley mad input delay ?

[fierce umbra]

more players were playing before this patch lol

[little viper]

you think more people are playing post patch

[fierce umbra]

nah same

[livid onyx]

that seems to be an issue post patch as well

[little viper]

100%

[little viper]

its the game bro. cooked.

[icy shore]

That's just how inconsistent gameplay works

[icy shore]

New Halloween content

[little viper]

alr maybe ig we'l never know so no point in arguing

gn lads

lets hope this thread is still top in the morning and the AI posts haven't taken over 🥀

this will be first week where none of us play fifa ig let see how long it takes for them to #1431594667828580484

[neat oriole]

Just keep this up by saying UP

Lol

[little viper]

pre patch do we think that defending needed a change or buff?

[candid sapphire]

Is your thought or is the reality?

[fierce umbra]

reality

[neat oriole]

Nerf ai defense, that's all, although I don't mind jockey update but the ai is out of control

[livid onyx]

literally just take 10% off the jockey speed and return the attacking ai

CDMfc26

[neat oriole]

Yea jockey with cdms is insane now plus auto defending

It's just fc 25

And I can't bother w FC25 again

[livid onyx]

and that was the worst fifa game ive ever played in my entire life

aifc

[neat oriole]

I know
So awful I had to switch to old Gen

[livid onyx]

all 90% of the good players ive discussed this with in elite div or div 1 say this is garbage

its div 6 and below that say w patch

and thats the majority of the community

[neat oriole]

Theyll realize how awful it is once they face certain type of players

[livid onyx]

im speaking on behalf of pc here and it is absolute dogshit, can't speak on old gen

[neat oriole]

And you also have to face hackers, must suck

[livid onyx]

2 hackers this champs man

im just used to it at this point

they neglect us LMAO

[neat oriole]

Real they do nothing for PC
Steam should just issue refunds for everyone
This is false advertisement and the state of the game isn't playable

Or marketable

This is not something that can be sold as of rn

[livid onyx]

i had so much fun in the first weeks ngl, now its so unenjoyable

[neat oriole]

The only issue with FC is that it's made by EA

[vagrant flax]

#revertupdate ASAP

#1431594667828580484

[tidal bluff]

If the game stability improves and they stop nerfing everything crazy, allow defense to be intelligent enough that they don’t lick windows and allow dribbling to not be abused w an overpowered mechanic. Controlled sprint was too strong but it could have been simply balanced with allowing the speed jockey to function like it did in years past to keep up with it. I think this cancels controlled sprint dribble spam, it should be used contextually when you want to be agile but not sprint full speed. Using feints or left stick dribbling is extremely effective, allowing analog sprint changes left stick dribbling because you can control it like a gas pedal it allows you to bait the defenders or patiently accelerate in or out of space.

But they buffed defense and nerfed attacking simultaneously so all the controlled sprint spammers are crying. I just want a consistent game, in years past competent manual defending was highly rewarding but defensive AI was smart enough to track a runner or presence defensive shape and position themselves on the correct side of the ball. Games are so high scoring but it’s often because defenders are absent.

[neat oriole]

I lost the count on how many times I tracked the run before the trough ball happened and still couldn't do s**t

[sweet dune]

#revertupdate

[glad quarry]

so surely there is going to be change?

[tame relic]

i think so

#revertupdate

[grim ether]

I hope so but i doubt it

[tame relic]

it's 100% gonna change

they even made a poll

[glad quarry]

dont think theyve seen ayn backlash like this before ever

[tame relic]

exactly

[grim ether]

Yes but not about the defending

Only dribbling

[tame relic]

if ppl continue to complain they have to

they've based this game off of community suggestions

[grim ether]

I hope you're right

[tame relic]

it was their whole campaign this year

about changing stuff the community wanted

[grim ether]

I really hope they do because i feel like they're doing pretty good on SBCs and the power curve

[tame relic]

yeah and bringing back old promos

that were good

[grim ether]

Would be a shame to throw it all away with s*** gameplay

[tame relic]

and they are truly listening to us, so i hope it continues that way and they revert it to a certain extent

like now they're buffing the rivals rewards because the community asked for it and stuff

[molten nacelle]

update had the right idea but its so boring

would rather have fun and a mechanic be op

[tame relic]

fr

and ppl were already starting to adapt to the faster more attacking game

[wind anvil]

boys any news?

[molten nacelle]

wasnt even that op if people would learn to defend

[wind anvil]

about new update maybe

[tame relic]

now this just feels like fc25 all over again

[wind anvil]

yep

[tame relic]

exactly

[wind anvil]

because these little timmies cant learn to manually defend

[molten nacelle]

exactly i felt like i just got really good at it then they nerfed it

[wind anvil]

and only depend on ai

[molten nacelle]

still needs alot of skill

[wind anvil]

they broke the game

[tame relic]

not really

[wind anvil]

unlucky

[wind anvil]

.

[molten nacelle]

defending doesent need skill?

[tame relic]

ppl just select their pogba and run around with him with his intercept

[molten nacelle]

heard someone say there looking at making more changes to r1 dribbling

[wind anvil]

they need to nerf this AI bs

[molten nacelle]

to make it slightly better but not like it was before

[wind anvil]

if the game remains the same i will quit

its horrible 0 fun 0 enjoyment

only stress

[molten nacelle]

yeah after patch tho before patch you could run circles around pogba

cause he turns slow

[wind anvil]

you can defend with anyone now lol

i can defend with pina if i want

it moves like prime kante

it doesnt even matter

they broke the best gameplay we had in years

all because of this bots in division 7 who only cry

[bronze halo]

Gameplay is horrible

This game is a chore

honestly

it feels like a chore

[raw talon]

It could have been so interesting if they didn't nerf the dribbling. With the defense upgrades on jockey, it could be a perfect scenario of attacking skill vs defending skill

But nah, they even gave an upgrade on AI defense too. Enjoy parkthebus FC

[soft forge]

#revertupdate

[neat oriole]

EA nerf ai defense and revert R1!

[crystal stag]

omds the game is SO BAD

[jovial bolt]

Worst update of all time with shadow buffs to AI for the second time so far after advertising a fast paced attacking game. EA you’re lying scum of the earth.

[proven glen]

#revertupdate

[subtle cargo]

#revertupdate just leave the kickoff nerf and the jockey buff. That’s all it needed

[honest quail]

We want revert update, and we ask before update to fix corners and kick off glitch just that , not to make Ai defenders like superman they know every pass i want to play they now have It’s as if they have an aura surrounding them every time I try to make a ground or through pass, they somehow anticipate it and automatically cut off the passing lane. There’s no real skill involved in the game anymore.

And when my striker is ready to receive the pass with the defender behind his back, something strange happens the AI defender magically intercepts the ball from behind. There’s no realism at all; even Van Dijk couldn’t do that in real life.

Now let’s talk about another issue passing. What happened to it? When I try to pass to my right winger, and there’s a teammate between us, I press the pass button with enough power for the long distance yet the game deliberately passes to the closer player instead. This problem didn’t exist before.

Another issue with passing: when my player is next to an opponent and I try to pass to him, my player intentionally passes to the opponent, as if it’s a pre-written scenario “if you play this way, this will happen.”

This design and style of gameplay have made us lose the identity of football. Everything now feels scripted. They don’t give us room to be creative or to invent our own ways to build and score goals the way we imagine them. We play the game for fun, to make imagination feel real, not to follow a fixed scenario written by the company.

Now about attacking it used to be excellent, at its best. Why did you change it? There’s no balance anymore. The gameplay has become too defensive and not fun. Why should I even play? Why did I pay money for a game that turned into something else?

You should bring back the old attacking system and restore the old defending mechanics. The old defense was fun and manual if you mastered it, you could win the ball; if you couldn’t, you didn’t deserve to reach the top divisions.

[glad quarry]

Waiting for changes….

[bronze halo]

How did this game go from one of the best this past decade, to one of the worst? It’s in battle with fc25 to be the worst

[glad quarry]

Now good dribblers feel the same

[safe raft]

Not even a month and they ruin it

[bronze halo]

Killed the game before toty 🤣

[safe raft]

Couldnt have given the game time, given a few more promos so players get better stats/playstyles to see how the dribbling held up against more cards that felt like kounde on the ball

Nope, lets just completely overhaul the game because a div 7 player cant defend

[bronze halo]

It’s a joke honestly

[bronze halo]

They are going to leave as soon as COD drops aswell! These knobheads get their head done in

[safe raft]

Attack has higher stats than defence rn, can get the wiggliest card for like 2k on fut, but defenders are expensive, didnt give the game time for people to get better defenders and combat the wiggling

when every card has 90 awarness, jockey and bruiser, pina and co wouldnt be a problem

[bronze halo]

They advertised the game as an attacking fast paced game aswell

[safe raft]

but nah, lets tank the whole game

2 different gameplays

it literally says this version is faster, higher scoring more unrealstic

[bronze halo]

it feels like authentic right now

honestly

[safe raft]

people play it, omg this gameplay is fast, its not fun

what did you think you were getting with gameplay marked for its lack of realism

clowns, absolute clowns

[bronze halo]

green timed trivelas and rainbow flick goals were too unrealistic

but this is honestly too much

We didn’t ask to play a competitive career mode matches

[safe raft]

run around with 1 dm, let AI do all the work

[bronze halo]

fc25 back at it again 😂

Joke of a company

[safe raft]

cant dribble through it, cant pass through it, you either go byline and pass inside or cross it to a big man for a knock down, fun game

[bronze halo]

Listening to anybody but the real players

[safe raft]

low level players shouldnt dictate the game

[bronze halo]

Just wait for everybody to finish wl, then they’ll realize how bad this game is

[safe raft]

they dont understand the mechanics of their own game

[bronze halo]

nah you know Anthony day?

[safe raft]

people on twitter/reddit saying gg ea, people cant fidget spin anymore

when it was a technical dribble nerf, not even fidget spinning....

and yeah when a stinker like him is saying its a good patch and has a positive rivals record, you know we're cooked man

[bronze halo]

he legit got 8 wins for the first time

this shows how the sh*t players are benefiting off this patch

[safe raft]

same on reddit, look at the threads celebrating it, people ask what division

div 6, div 5

always the same

[bronze halo]

If EA doesn’t fix it, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 75% off before Christmas

[safe raft]

cant get 6 wins on champs, stuck in div 5, rather than improve and look inward, they cry and ruin it for us all

[bronze halo]

Yeah, these people can’t defend before the patch

[safe raft]

money talks, if people stop spending, EA will revert before next week

[bronze halo]

They whine and go to AI for help

[safe raft]

if ut spending goes down the shitter, they know they messed up

[bronze halo]

nah I read somewhere that EA is making the gameplay horrible so more people spend on packs

not sure how it correlates but it might be

[glad quarry]

I think it’s making people quit

Lol

[safe raft]

it will make them quit

25 was dog water and earnings dropped off a cliff for EA

if it happens again they know they messed up

[bronze halo]

hoping they revert this madness

[safe raft]

by then, the games dead anyway

i figured id go try old gen again since its always been smoother

its somehow even slower

than next gen

[bronze halo]

even if EA revert it, they will find another way to f**k it up again

[safe raft]

tried to turn with a 92 dribbling and 91 agility player and it took about a week

idc if they keep the jockey buff

bring the dribbling back, nerf the AI

[bronze halo]

facts

50% of the goals the div 6 were conceding were from kick offs and corners

[safe raft]

fix corners, fix kick offs
fix that stupid full back long ball

Games perfect, its unrealistic, its high scoring...its fun

[bronze halo]

why couldn’t ea just fix those and then see how the community responds

nobody asked for fc25 2.0

[safe raft]

low level players probably did

winning 1-0 off a header, parking the bus, then feeling good about themselves

since opponents they face cant green time trivela

[bronze halo]

lol

[safe raft]

not seeing a div 7 player hit a green time from 30, so games perfect

[bronze halo]

it would be over for everyone of those cdm tw*ts if I could green time trivela again

[safe raft]

someone will find an exploit

it'll be something crazy like a first time flick up power shot or rainbow volley again, but it will happen soon and then its 25 again

[bronze halo]

it always happens

[safe raft]

sit in, park, hit exploit, repeat

[bronze halo]

Suddenly it’s called “meta” from pros and everybody and their nan is doing it

[safe raft]

10/10 community, cant think for themselves so just repeat what krasi says

at least the poll says we hate it, glad people are speaking up about it and not just taking it

[wary solstice]

They want realism while abusing R1 dribbling🤣

[glad quarry]

R1 dribbling is realism

That’s how dribbling works irl

Watch football

Burst of pace

That’s how wingers beat their man

[safe raft]

some lad called lionel something made a career out of doing it

[glad quarry]

If you sprint and cover angles defending r1

It’s easy to dwfwnd

[safe raft]

but rather than learn to defend it, people find it easier to sit and complain its too hard to deal with

[icy shore]

Attacking can still be fast paced and fun.

Just not by over utilizing a mechanic that was (and let's be honest) overpowered.

You need to master strafing, drag backs, skill moves, when to actually utilize close control sprint, shielded dribbling and actual sprinting and passing the ball.

Attacking was all being done by left stick and r1. That's no skill gap. Just an over reliance on "fun" mechanics.

Defending the old r1 was definitely possible but that doesn't mean it didn't need to be nerfed. It just needed the AI to be eradicated along with it.

[glad quarry]

That’s called skill gap

Being good at r1 and LS = skill

Not everyone can do it

If you are getting cooked it means you’re not good at defending it

R1 was the closest thing to real life football

[icy shore]

You should also have to learn the rest of the attacking side of the game though. Not just use the same things over and over while expecting the same result.

I wasn't "getting cooked". I could defend it just fine since the early access. The issue I've been having is the defensive AI being too strong after 1.0.2.

If the AI defending was gone then they wouldn't need to bring old r1 back.

[icy shore]

This gameplay much closer to actual football. They just have to nerf the AI on defense.

Do you people only watch football through highlights?

[safe raft]

authentic is literally there for actual football

[glad quarry]

With how slugging every player feels

It’s not realistic

[safe raft]

why ruin our gameplay in competitive with pep noncery

[glad quarry]

Sluggish

[icy shore]

Always sluggish on the weekends though. You just had a very quick controlled sprint before and slower jockeying defenders so it was hard to notice.

[icy shore]

Competitive should require learning everything.

Not overly using one or 2 things. That's called spamming. Anything that can be spammed should probably be nerfed or balanced.

It's not balanced right now because of the AI. That's it.

[glad quarry]

It just means people are bad at defending it

So people spammed it

Cuz most people can’t defend it

Anyway with the poll I hope they bring it back

[safe raft]

learning everything, like learning to defend?

[glad quarry]

If you watch how fullbacks defend wingers 1bn

1v1

It’s easy to defend r1

Just stay on the strong side

[safe raft]

easier to complain about it than learn it tho

[icy shore]

I was able to defend before.

You guys just want the AI to remain the same

And your gimmicks to help you along.

[safe raft]

you mean i want a high scoring, fun game, yes

authentic is there for the purists

[icy shore]

I'm playing the exact same way I was before and the only thing I've noticed is that the AI is overpowered on defense.

[pale geyser]

Revert it now

What is this trash matchmaking in champs, my team is with not very good players but then i come against teams with godly players also not to mention sometimes you get matched with a lad who is div 1 or elite when im div 4. Ea fix team matchmaking and skill matchmaking

[icy shore]

Still absolutely possible. You just need to learn other things in order to do so.

[safe raft]

yeah running to the byline and pulling it back

sorted

[pale geyser]

Games js not fun

[jovial bolt]

be happy ur not a liverpool fan gng

games trash ur team is getting smacked

😭

[icy shore]

Trade one op thing for another. Look at that.

[pale geyser]

Glory glory man united

[icy shore]

Gimmick football at its finest

[jovial bolt]

...

i mean well bounce back ig

manncity lost 6 in a row last season

[safe raft]

just need to learn to defend it

[jovial bolt]

the only player i saw yesterday was szoboszlai

this guy is clear of pedri this season

[icy shore]

Definitely can. Definitely still an easy goal to score

[jovial bolt]

argue with a wall

[pale geyser]

Mamar was ok

[jovial bolt]

nahh man

[pale geyser]

Fr

[jovial bolt]

that 1on1

was off him

[pale geyser]

😭

Fr

[jovial bolt]

he knew where its gonna go and still didnt save

😭💔

[proven glen]

Hahaha what, do you even whatch pedri play

[pale geyser]

Szobo is carrying liverpool

[icy shore]

Nerf the defensive AI and there's no reason to revert the R1.

Force the community to learn everything in order to be good at the game.

Only thing keeping me off the game is AI low blocks and byline counters.

[glad quarry]

I’d rather they do both

So revert the patch

[proven glen]

No, they need to fix R1, younare a small percentage of of people that like this bs

[glad quarry]

R1 was the counter to those AI tummies

Timmies

Facing an AI Cdm Timmy, just r1 past his AI player

[safe raft]

For me

nerf the AI defence
Bring the R1 and old dribbling speed back with left stick
slightly buff jockey speed more than it was at launch but not as fast as it is now
fix kick off goals (think thats been done now anyway)
and fix short corners and the back post X ones

that would make this a lot more enjoyable

[icy shore]

So nerf the AI and there's no need for controlled sprint to be the way it was.

[safe raft]

attack heavy, gotta have a defensive skill gap and when more promo cards drop giving players jockey + and higher stats, it will even out

[proven glen]

This is exactly whats needed

[safe raft]

also make headers great again

[proven glen]

Yes

[safe raft]

Love a good long ball into the box

[icy shore]

Left stick is still the same thing though... they only nerfed the r1 so it wasn't faster than sprinting.

[proven glen]

It wasnt

[safe raft]

its not, technical dribbling as a playstyle impacts left stick dribbling too

look a the description of it

PlayStyle Effect
Reaches a higher speed when performing Controlled Sprint and performs wide turns while dribbling with more precision.

[icy shore]

In game it feels the exact same to me. R1 is just slower

[safe raft]

you nerf RB dribbling you also impact left stick dribbling as people cant turn with as much precision anymore

[proven glen]

@icy shore understand you are a small percentage of people that like the way it is now

Most people like the way it was before way better

Just look at the poll

[glad quarry]

Well on Reddit they love it lol

[proven glen]

Clearly it was better before

[proven glen]

Doesnt matter, EA will look at the poll they made gere

[safe raft]

then they admit they are in div 6...

[proven glen]

Exactly

[glad quarry]

The main argument against is apparnelty r1 is used by spinners

But you can’t spin with r1

Makes no sense

[icy shore]

I would like a lot more if the defensive AI was nerfed.

The poll is all new accounts or people just joining that have come in to cry because their one mechanic is gone and they need to adapt to something else.

It's not really reliable data anymore.

Just by simply watching people play they'll be able to see what needs to be done.

[proven glen]

But they didnt even use it to spin

[icy shore]

No but launching yourself into space after a spin was. Now that's not a thing.

[glad quarry]

Nobody spins then r1s lol

[proven glen]

So? Whats your point. They make changes due to that poll, so enjoy the new patch while it lasts cause they will change R1 back to being better i guess

[glad quarry]

They spin and shoot

[icy shore]

Spinning was the left stick, r1 was launching you into space.

[proven glen]

But you can still spin even if you dont launch yourself into space, so it doesnt change anything

[jovial bolt]

watch liverpool

hes pedri with numbers

[proven glen]

I do dude

[jovial bolt]

and better defensively

[icy shore]

That's why jockey is faster now.

[proven glen]

Exactly, jockey was the needed fix, not r1

[jovial bolt]

they need to completely remove defending ai on strikers

[proven glen]

No

[icy shore]

R1 was faster than actually sprinting

[jovial bolt]

theyre not supposed to intercept like prime gullit

[jovial bolt]

well yeah when hes played at rb vs arsenal and wins a motm

[proven glen]

Hes not pedri with numbers but ok, very different players

[jovial bolt]

i mwan that hes pedris lvl imo

he can do anything

[proven glen]

Well that yes

Hes very rounded

[jovial bolt]

yesterday he was the only one playing i felt like

[proven glen]

But pedri is miles better imo

[jovial bolt]

people hated on salah but he was the only one working in attack

[jovial bolt]

for me its really close

[proven glen]

No it was hot

[jovial bolt]

consideting szobos in a better league too

[proven glen]

Jeez

[jovial bolt]

how lol

spriting with a gk u mean

[proven glen]

Fr

Ridiculpus

[icy shore]

Because it was. You didn't need to use sprint at all because it was so quick.

[jovial bolt]

it wasnt?

what div are u

[proven glen]

No it was not holyy crap

[proven glen]

Fr

[icy shore]

What depth and formation do you play?

[jovial bolt]

4411 (2) and 70

[icy shore]

Basically something that causes congestion and utilizes AI defending.

[jovial bolt]

i was using it before

[proven glen]

????

Dude

What div are you in?

[jovial bolt]

right

[proven glen]

The fact you dont answer the question means its low haha

[jovial bolt]

a good player would definetly be able to defend r1

[proven glen]

Yep

Innevwr felt it was a problem at all

[jovial bolt]

we adapted to way worse things

trivelas last yeat

[proven glen]

I was surprised they touched it in the patch

[jovial bolt]

year

i mean i loved them but yk

[proven glen]

For me goalkeeper movement is way worse than R1

Not op

Just a stupid mechanic imo

Unpopular opinion I know but hey we all have our opinions

[jovial bolt]

yeah it kinda is but u just need to wait fir them to move

worse thing is if they moove once then dint move and etc

cus its unpredictable

[icy shore]

I've played less than 20 rivals games I'm in div 5 and I only play live events and champs this weekend.

I used to be a div 1 player when I had the time. I probably would be now but I don't like playing against AI defenders.

[proven glen]

Yeah but they shouldnt be able to move imo, they are good enough and i feel finishing is balanced

[proven glen]

Well then you are probably just rusty and if you had more time you could adjust to the speed of R1

‘Meaning R1 isnt the problem

[icy shore]

I was able to defend thr r1 before.

I just didn't like attacking against the AI

[proven glen]

Then if you could why do you like the way it is now? Did you not use it?

[proven glen]

Also if you have been playing this game so little time, youndidnt properly adjust to it

Once you do you see it was great

R1 was not a problem at all

Now its useless

[icy shore]

Because now it takes intelligence to use. You can't just ice skate into space with it every time. Which is how we were beating the AI before. It was boring.

This attacking feels more engaging and skill based.

If the AI was nerfed on defense I would probably be grinding rivals right now but every opponent I get is playing 8 defenders and running around with 1 player.

It feels useless now because the AI is overpowered. But the AI was only made overpowered because casuals couldn't defend the r1.

R1 is now gone so there's no need for such overpowered defending.

The AI can safely be reverted back to what it was during early access and the rest of the game will feel better.

[proven glen]

I disagree but ok

R1 will be reverted

[icy shore]

Why?

[proven glen]

Soecifically with R1

You are right about AI

Its too much AI defending

But R1 isnt and wasnt the problem

For me

The problem was jockey was a but too slow pre patch

That was all that needed fixing

Not R1

With increased jockey speed you can follow R1 better

It wasnt an R1 problem it was a jockey problem

So they buff AI defending, increase jockey speed and comoletly make R1 useless, its so heavy to use its broken in a bad way

[icy shore]

Jockey was buffed to keep up with left stick.

The r1 was practically sprinting. Now it's meant for close quick dribbles and not meant to be held down

[proven glen]

Dude

It was not practically sprinting

It was literaly not

Its not coded that way it didnt feel that way

What you describe as “exploding into space”

Felt too fast because jockey was too slow

But fix jockey and with skill you can close that down

The fact is that is was not basically sprinting

Sprinting is sprinting and R1 is R1, they are different, different level of control and speed

[proven glen]

And, R1 is not even “close quick dribbles”, its heavy touches at a slower speed than left stick

[icy shore]

R1 needed the nerf. Even if they buff it should never be as quick as it was.

[proven glen]

No it didnt

But ok

Given you take a decade to write a response on your phone i can see why it was too quick for you

[icy shore]

If your playstyle is suffering that much because of how it is now then you relied on it too much.

[proven glen]

It not,

Thats the thing

Im still playing goof

Its just slower and less enjoyable

[icy shore]

Then you'll be fine.

They just have to nerf the AI

[proven glen]

I dont want a game that feels slow

It sucks

Its boring

And not entretaining

Thats the problem

I can adjust sure but why accept something inferior

Not the way im wired

And this new way of R1 is inferior

No control

Slow

[icy shore]

It doesn't if you know what you're doing and play good football.

If you want to run fast in one direction play madden or something.

This game is about more than one button

[proven glen]

I get that

And pass like if was prime barca

200+ passes per game

I wish i could send a pic

But its so fckn slow to dribble now

Its crazy

[proven glen]

If you want good football

Go watch on the tv

This is a game

[icy shore]

I do that too. While my opponents have less than 100.

[proven glen]

Thats why they made 2 different gameplay styles

[proven glen]

And they sucj

Suck

But different games and different situations call for different inputs

And if you advocatenfor good and realistic football

In irl they dribble fast and conttolled without sprinting

They take that option away

You play tiki taka football but then see space and then boom you esrned the space

But now with this new R1 its like having the heavy touches of sprinting with the speed of left stick

It sucks

I dont understand how you dont see that

[rugged summit]

no like playing rivels against 422 or 4222 is like playing vs a script and if u tried to run it is nearly impossiable

442 i mean

all they do is getting in ur box and spam passes and my defenders are just standing there

[proven glen]

Not even, the AI defending and the slow dribbiling is killing the game

[icy shore]

It really isn't like that though. You're just used to slower defenders and faster a faster r1.

When close control was first added it was called technical and this close control is much closer to that now. To me it all feels fine. The AI is just closing down the space before you can take it.

So therefore the AI needs to be nerfed and the r1 can stay as it is now. If it needs a buff after that then fine.

[rugged summit]

ai defending is working with everyone ept me my defenders are standing waiting him to score while his are supermen

[proven glen]

Noo, trust me pay attention, i felt thst way too but I just got off and felt it so much

It was so much more automatic

[proven glen]

Remeber me when it gets reverted or buffed again before next champs

[rugged summit]

yesterday played with like 5 of them with freaking same playstyle just spamming passes

[proven glen]

Im extremely sure it wont benkong before they revert it

People are llaying less

[rugged summit]

not even tiki taka that just spam it

it feels like fc 25 just copy paste rn

[proven glen]

Look at the market, last week there were 7 million listings, this weekend with champs theres only 5 mil, my friends are not olaying waiting for the update to be reverted, youtubers are not liking it and that influences the perrformance of the game

[icy shore]

Are you saying that because nickrtfm doesn't want to play anymore?

[proven glen]

No

[proven glen]

^

[rugged summit]

the game was great atleast when u loss u say gg rn i rage quit bc of it

[proven glen]

Yel

Yep

[glad quarry]

I used to play couple hours a day

Now I stopped

[proven glen]

I agree

[icy shore]

They don't like change. Simple as that. If the AI was nerfed it would be more enjoyable.

[glad quarry]

One game in rivals and I’m done

[proven glen]

There we go @icy shore

[rugged summit]

yeah i cant even play rivels

[glad quarry]

Thanks EA for stoping me playing video games and doing productive things 😂

[proven glen]

No, they just dont accept mediocracy

[proven glen]

Again @icy shore another example

[rugged summit]

like 442 and 4222 is too much and this formation is glitch rn bv the update

everyone spamming passes and through lop with tall players and the whole formation is just tall players with one good passer

[glad quarry]

Well EA know the numbers I’m sure they track it

[rugged summit]

look at the poll

[icy shore]

But they arent happy because they can't dribble past the AI.

[proven glen]

Noooooooo

Noooo

[glad quarry]

You should be able to dribble past AI lol

[proven glen]

Its not becuase of that

[glad quarry]

If someone is not controlling

[proven glen]

Its because technical dribbling is horrible now

Its not controlled

Its not quicker than left stick

@glad quarry am i wrong?

[rugged summit]

i try to do r1 again they take the ball like a candy from a baby

[proven glen]

@rugged summit am i wrong

[rugged summit]

nah

[proven glen]

Thank you

@icy shore bottom line is you clearly don’t play too much and were struggling to keep up with the speed of the game, they slow it down and now you like it. Clearly you are part of the lower percentage of players with that opinion.

And thats ok

It not a dig

I get there are casuals and its great

[icy shore]

Going left and right it shouldn't be. Use it in one direction and you have micro movements on the ball to weave in and out.

If you use it in the correct situations now you'll still get through.

I wasn't struggling with anything except for playing against the AI.

[proven glen]

But they cant change the speed of the game to adjust to players that dont play as much

Cause the people thar play it a lot and like it are left with slow not entretaining game, just to adjust for people thst are less good

Thats if for me man

You take a decade to reply and write it like a corporate email, clearly the game eases too fast for you

[icy shore]

The game still runs at the same speed though. How much were you using that button?

The only thing making it seems so bad it the AI and the jockey being faster.

Nothing else feels different.

[icy shore]

It wasn't too fast for me and I was educated properly so I know how to type and send readable messages.

[icy shore]

Literally made a new discord account just to come complain that his crutch doesn't work anymore.

Sad.

Adapt and move on. If you were good before you should still be good now.

Nerf the defensive AI and the game will be fine

[glad quarry]

#1431594667828580484

#maker1greatagain

[icy shore]

Just stop relying on one mechanic. You'll be fine.

#nerfAIdefenfing

[humble badge]

He doesn’t need to adapt, they will revert R1 in some way, not to 100% what it was before but somewhat close, they already said that

[glad quarry]

R1 is the most realistic mechanic

It’s just fast touches

Compared to skill cancel

[humble badge]

Yep it was very good

[glad quarry]

Have you ever seen a skill cancel IRL?

[humble badge]

Haha true

[glad quarry]

Does Mbappe cancel his stepover 🤣

He completes it

That’s the whole point of a move

[safe raft]

skill cancels shouldnt exist, skills should be high risk high reward

being able to cancel mid animation and then animation break it and go the other way is as unrealistic as it gets

and i say that as someone who heavily cancels skills, its laughably broken

[humble badge]

There should be a slider in ultimate team for how you want your game, fast and arcade? Turn max to the right, you want your „realism”? Turn max to the left and let’s all play together 😂

[icy shore]

I was perfectly fine with r1 prior to the update.

It takes skill and competency to use now.

Defensive AI is too overpowered now that there's no crutch for attackers.

Just nerf the AI and we'll be fine.

Cancels can go too. Never used them

Don't even know how

[deep jasper]

They always want more wages. They are also unhappy with the fans cause every game gets suspended because of hooligans😆

Is patch 1.1.1 what they released yesterday? Or is it yet to come

[humble badge]

They released it yesterday to fix something, clearly this didn’t fix disconnecting from rivals

[glad quarry]

I guess they wait for the poll to end

[deep jasper]

Yeah ive seen that theres no mention in their fc direct feedback blog.

[glad quarry]

Before doing anything

[deep jasper]

Theres a fix for pc where you do a few steps to delete corrupted files. But you have to do it everytime before starting

[tame relic]

it's much more entertaining to be able to do any type of play or tactic and be able to still score, now it just doesn't happen

[icy shore]

As long as I'm not playing someone that's just AI defending the whole time I can still play the same way I was before.

I play a 4222 tiki taka with wing backs and it feels fun. Skill moves and left stick are very responsive.

The counter, low block formations like 451 4213 and 4231 are just really overpowered because of the AI being too helpful.

R1 helped compensate for that but without it you really feel the AIs presence.

It wasn't like that during early access and I'd like to see something with similar AI to that with dribbling exactly how it is now.

[tame relic]

See, the problem is everyone ai defends in champs, and i mean everyone. It's not fun, you always have to do npc plays to score like last year. And now you can't even r1 dribble apart from the fact that all defenders jockey like Maldini

and i got 13
wins

but id rather get 11 or 12 while having more fun with the game than ai defending the whole game and scoring with over the top through balls

[icy shore]

I feel you. I just feel like it's the AI though. I can understand where everyone is coming from when they would like the r1 but if the AI was nerfed we wouldn't really need that back.

Attacking is a bit harder now and it should be. Defending should be just as difficult if not more.

[tame relic]

then how would they nerf the ai without making the players look stupid in game

before the patch was good, we only needed a very little jockey buff and it would be perfect

ppl were already starting to adapt to the harder defending

[icy shore]

Turn down the aggression

reduce the marking distance

Increase the gaps between defenders a bit. Especially when all 4 defenders are being told to defend.

Revert 1.0.2 patch that made low blocks sit deeper.

[deep jasper]

Lmao watching nickrtfm going on about how bad this patch is😂

I feel for the streamers where they had to play fc25 everyday. And now this lol

[acoustic heron]

#1431594667828580484

[tame relic]

exactly

it's the same game

[deep jasper]

Well its a little bit better id say. Fc 25 was just comedy. Players tripping over one another

A little

[tame relic]

yeah without that part of it the gameplay is the same

[icy shore]

It's just the AI. It's gotta go

[deep jasper]

Yeah and the thing is you have to rely on the AI. Cause if you player switch they all run opposite ways

[icy shore]

I don't think you should be able to use the left stick to instantly make a perfect 180 turn with the ball but everyone loves their responsive dribbling.

You should have to do a drag back or skill move to change direction that quickly.

[deep jasper]

Yeah if they would do this in real life. They break there ankles

[icy shore]

"bUt ThIS iS An aRcAdE GAme. It shOUld BE fAasT"

[deep jasper]

Im just waiting for a pc fix. Just completed Alba and now i cant try him out

[surreal maple]

this company is actually awful

[deep jasper]

Its more fun to play table football lol

[surreal maple]

they dont care about the pc community at all and treat us like we didnt pay 100 quid for the game

[icy shore]

I prefer playing clubs and watching the chickens run around without their heads.

[deep jasper]

I didnt. I got eaplay pro for 18 euro. Thank god. But i dont want to pay 80 for the console version to be able to play. And start over with bronze players

[surreal maple]

neither

[deep jasper]

Not sure if clubs work on pc either

[surreal maple]

either way they should atleast be updating us

they have neglected it on social media

if this happened on console iw would be fixed on the hour

[icy shore]

Literally the only benefit to having a PC. Played hackers on there and decided console was the way to go with crossplay off for champs and rivals.

Then they made AI overpowered after early access.

[deep jasper]

Yeah i switched to pc on 25 cause it was a little bit more fun. But now they leave us hanging

[icy shore]

I'm sure another live tuning update will come during the week. If not then we might have this nightmare until December.

[surreal maple]

they better extend champs

[deep jasper]

They should just stop limiting champs to weekends

Why cant we have a whole week to play 15 games

Now it feels like a job. Also those scream objectives are gonna take forever to complete. Just to get a 84 rated

[rugged summit]

man that what we are talking about the formation isnt good it is just some glitch bc the patch

[willow mountain]

its actually unbearable playing this new patch

games are so boring now

everyone i verse plays a low block and ai defends for them

R1 completely useless now even with technical plus

all u need to do if go back to the old dribbling and slightly buff like 10% defending from pre patch

and you would balance it out

people have finally adapted to defending atleast in higher divisions

and had 0 problems defending

genuienely game had a skill gap for the first time in ages and it was rewarding

but now i play the exact same game over and over

and i couldnt be losing interest quicker with this game if its not reverted

i would rather have a game filled with creativity and oppurtunity end 7-7 than lock block ai defending no skill 2-1

[glad quarry]

If ea doenst change

I don’t think I’ll be playing next champs

[willow mountain]

well the rewards arent worth playing unless ur going 10-5 or more

genuinely

[glad quarry]

I’d play for fun

But it’s not fun anymore

I didn’t buy fc25 so I never tried it out

[willow mountain]

i just dont understand why ppl want ultimate team to be "realistic" it a comp game mode that has a skill gap and u need to learn to be better

pretty simple concept

like any other comp game

[glad quarry]

Realistic would be no AI defense loom

lol

[willow mountain]

good

[glad quarry]

But they will never do that

[willow mountain]

luck

[glad quarry]

Well hope they make changes by next champs

If not I’m out

Can I sell my account or something 😅

[willow mountain]

whatever AI defending they had pre patch was nearly perfect ngl

the traccking just needed a bit of a boost and jockey speed maybe too

but otherwise actually took skill to defend

and attack

was balanced

and im sorry but who doesnt enjoy scoring alot of goals per game

its not as if the game had speed boosts that broke dribbling

like it genuonely didnt need to be touched

idk but if i was EA listen to ur creators and pro players not ur div 7 bots who dont spend time actually playing and getting better

wanting the easy way out

[icy shore]

This but even worse dribbling and better ai defenders

[uneven fox]

#revertupdate

[ornate finch]

We are waiting for the patch! Your game is unplayable right now! There are bugs it’s unbelievable, I can’t change my players, any time I go to „team management“ I get kicked out! The dribbling is dead and the servers are so bad

#revertupdate

[rugged summit]

fc 26 isnt fun anymore

all i see is 442 and 4222

[honest quail]

We want revert update, and we ask before update to fix corners and kick off glitch just that , not to make Ai defenders like superman they know every pass i want to play they now have It’s as if they have an aura surrounding them every time I try to make a ground or through pass, they somehow anticipate it and automatically cut off the passing lane. There’s no real skill involved in the game anymore.

And when my striker is ready to receive the pass with the defender behind his back, something strange happens the AI defender magically intercepts the ball from behind. There’s no realism at all; even Van Dijk couldn’t do that in real life.

Now let’s talk about another issue passing. What happened to it? When I try to pass to my right winger, and there’s a teammate between us, I press the pass button with enough power for the long distance yet the game deliberately passes to the closer player instead. This problem didn’t exist before.

Another issue with passing: when my player is next to an opponent and I try to pass to him, my player intentionally passes to the opponent, as if it’s a pre-written scenario “if you play this way, this will happen.”

This design and style of gameplay have made us lose the identity of football. Everything now feels scripted. They don’t give us room to be creative or to invent our own ways to build and score goals the way we imagine them. We play the game for fun, to make imagination feel real, not to follow a fixed scenario written by the company.

Now about attacking it used to be excellent, at its best. Why did you change it? There’s no balance anymore. The gameplay has become too defensive and not fun. Why should I even play? Why did I pay money for a game that turned into something else?

You should bring back the old attacking system and restore the old defending mechanics. The old defense was fun and manual if you mastered it, you could win the ball; if you couldn’t, you didn’t deserve to reach the top divisions.

[hardy shoal]

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground.

Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

[glad quarry]

shut up bot @hardy shoal

[mortal horizon]

Game running on 5 FPS

GG EA

[glad quarry]

#1431594667828580484

[somber solstice]

#revertupdate

[neat oriole]

Just got Salma physically bullying a 1.98 defender called Huijsen,
Apart from the game being a cpu mess, this shouldn't be accepted

[acoustic quarry]

#revertupdate

[proven glen]

#revertupdate

[icy shore]

Nerf AI defending

[honest quail]

They play for noobs nerf AI

Where r those motherfuckers !!!!

Where Ea from this shittt-

[glad quarry]

Bump

[neat oriole]

How are u saying that without your message getting filtered for bad words lol

[honest quail]

Because how work in EA motherfuckers , no filter for fact

[proven glen]

Just got off a champs game… AI defending is ridiculous

Why

Why would they ruin this game

I was enjoying it sooo much before

It feels worse than fc25

[hardy whale]

because them little shitters that couldn't defend cried that ea needed to make defending better

[proven glen]

Yep

Crazy stuff

Dribbling is terrible

No control on the ball

[red dove]

#revertupdate

[autumn gust]

They nerfed R1 dribbling twice. 1. by making jockey faster (which I don’t mind) and 2. by killing R1. And I don’t know if it’s just me but overall left stick feels much slower now, which is really sad since we didn’t have a real left stick since fifa 17

[bright lance]

#revertuodate

[icy shore]

Nerf defensive AI first

[fringe thicket]

Spoke nothing but facts

[keen crown]

+1000

[feral frigate]

ist slower than jokey, and thats the Problem

made defending better

offense worse

so every one is playing low block and counter

good job EA, destroyed your own game just to push the Casuals

even the servers are worse than before the Patch

i dont get it

[icy shore]

The defensive AI just needs to be nerfed

[feral frigate]

the only thing they had to do is to speed up the Jokey a little bit

the rest was fine

[icy shore]

We'll know exactly where the game has to go from here once they nerf the defensive AI, otherwise not much will change.

[feral frigate]

i even dont get why i am running Offside 15 Times per Game again

the defensive AI spamming offside Traps like Prime Barcelona

[icy shore]

That's your opponent actually. Early on the pros and players in the higher divisions figured out that offside trap was able to "wake up" the defensive AI.

Now it's just a better team press.

[brisk shuttle]

#revertupdate this game doesn’t look enjoyable no more just same jammy rubbish as last year

[icy shore]

That's because of the AI. It's has nothing to do with this update specifically

[little viper]

cmon lads we need this thread to be top to generate traction and get them to #1431594667828580484

[lament atlas]

I fully agree with you pre patch i could actually win games now NOTHING

#revertupdate

[little viper]

yes bro

all we want is a fun video game

we need to maintain momentum with this movement

[proven glen]

Yes brother

[lament atlas]

I liked the game most like 2 weeks ago

[ruby fossil]

#revertupdate genuinely played the game for hours on end pre patch, cant remember the last time i had this much fun in a football game, now it just feels like a “chore” playing the game so i can complete evos, rewards etc.

[lament atlas]

Yeah

Pre patch it was fuсking amazing

[idle wind]

I’ve gave it another chance and played more since the patch, the game is just so much slower

[little viper]

its so unfun

[idle wind]

Half the time my pass goes to the wrong player because of how slow the game is

[little viper]

genuinely its made every aspect of the game worse

[idle wind]

100%

[little viper]

without even changing those features directly

[idle wind]

Just finished a game 7-5 so the high scoring hasn’t been changed

Which was never an issue

[little viper]

yeah but shows what they were even trying to do (something very wrong) didnt even work in the first place

useless company

alr lads gn

lets keep the word going

#1431594667828580484

[lament atlas]

Yo one guy on fifa discord said turning crossplay off fixed the dc rivals thing try it

[lucid hollow]

#revertupdate and nerf ai defending and second man press ffs

[unreal spade]

#revertupdate and let me play matches please

[ashen perch]

#revertupdate this patch didn't patch any problems, just made it more playable for the whales and removed all sense of skill

[proven glen]

#revertupdate

[scarlet hamlet]

#revertupdate

[manic cove]

#revertupdate

[brittle mist]

#revertupdate

[acoustic meadow]

Fkin rats, you don’t know how to play and cry for broken mechanics

[honest quail]

What div u play ?? 8 or 9 ??

[acoustic meadow]

2 dog, for your knowledge

[honest quail]

2 after update?

[glad quarry]

bro went from 6 to 2 after update using CDMS to defend 😄

[honest quail]

The worst thing about the latest update was the imbalance between attack and defense. We know it has gotten worse, but there’s something they didn’t notice the defensive AI. The more they improved it, the more the game lost its identity. Before the update, I used to find creative and fun ways to score or assist goals, and every match was an opportunity to invent new methods to score that was the joy of the game.

All we asked for was fixing kick-offs and corners, nothing more. Now, the situation is terrible. The difference is clear before the update, I could lose a match but still feel happy and enjoy it. Now, even when I win, I feel unsatisfied and say to myself, “That’s not me it’s the AI defending for me.” Where’s the fun in that?

[hardy shoal]

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground.

Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

[wind anvil]

npc

copy paste this message at infinite

maggot

[copper nymph]

#revertupdate

[icy shore]

Nerf the AI before any other adjustments

[deep jasper]

I have to agree with inception. Its a gameplay issue instead of a patch issue. The patch could have made it worse, but nobody knows for sure. As a PC player you can fiddle around with graphics settings endlesly but its just the gameplay thats 50/50 before every game. I even had a 1st half where it all was smooth. 2nd half just nothing works properly.

Lets just hope its work in progress🤞

[potent narwhal]

Please do so

[glad quarry]

#1431594667828580484

Need to keep this thread up top

[icy shore]

They need to nerf the AI before making anymore changes to the dribbling

[proven glen]

#revertupdate

[wind anvil]

#1431594667828580484

[raw talon]

#1431594667828580484 asap

[brave lava]

Bump

No clue if this is due to the new patch but sometimes when I pass it to a player, the game doesn't automatically swap to that player. They just run past and let the ball go, I'm still controlling the player I passed with

[robust vector]

#revertupdate

[little viper]

#1431594667828580484

[little viper]

bump indeed

we need this thread to stay top as long as possible

bc EA have taken down the ea feedback forum all together for pc so for all platforms sake we need ea to

#1431594667828580484

[rich estuary]

how do i do that

#1431594667828580484

oo

[hardy shoal]

7-0

[hardy shoal]

🧂🧂

[rich estuary]

u can’t be this lonely man

[hardy shoal]

😂😂

[hardy shoal]

Don't change the topic man

7-0

[rich estuary]

@quasi hedge 😭😭

[quasi hedge]

he is so lonely i cringed

[hardy shoal]

Hahaha

[rich estuary]

lmaooo

[hardy shoal]

Is he your partner

Who calls you while crying?

[hardy shoal]

🧂🧂

7-0

🤣🤣

15th

[gusty falcon]

Ea need to buff ai tacking and r1 dribbling significantly

[hardy shoal]

Lol bro ran away when faced with a bet

Cmon bro let's bet 100 usd that manu finishes lower than liveroool

[rich estuary]

?????

[odd hatch]

this is the first time i've seen you writing a different msg other than your stupid spamming in all threads

[hardy shoal]

That's effort optimization bro

Why type new message each time

[odd hatch]

Or maybe fear about ea reverting the changes

[honest quail]

Up

[hardy shoal]

Nothing to fear

[odd hatch]

you made clear that you can't defend for your life bro

[hardy shoal]

Even if they do they will again do it

Just a matter of time

Noway they alienate the vast majority of casuals

[odd hatch]

you know what majority is right?

[hardy shoal]

Bro I'm not worried about the game as much as you are

Remember I'm a casual

[odd hatch]

because if you take a look at the poll you'll see what majority wants

[hardy shoal]

My life doesn't revolve around fifa

[hardy shoal]

Poll =2k responses

[rich estuary]

@odd hatch bro i promise u do not engage with this guy he says the same thing over and over it’s been going on for hours he’s so brainless

it just goes in cirlces

[odd hatch]

it seems it does, i don't spam nearly the half as you do xD

[hardy shoal]

Do you genuinely believe eafc is played by 2k players?

[quasi hedge]

dont engage in debates with this guy his iq is lower than room temp

[hardy shoal]

Lol bro

[rich estuary]

u prove him wrong and he’ll bring up another subject then say why u running away

[hardy shoal]

What about the bet

[rich estuary]

see like that ^

[hardy shoal]

You keep dodging your bet

As you fully well know Manu is worth finishing 15th only

[rich estuary]

brother why would i bet 100 usd on a person i just met an hour ago

[quasi hedge]

you are genuinely so braindead it concerns me if EA caters to players like you🤣🤣🤣🤣

[odd hatch]

Good to read, seems pointless anyway. Div 8 player trying to give "feedback" XDXD

[hardy shoal]

Newsflasg

They do

[quasi hedge]

lmaoooo fax

[rich estuary]

just for utd to finish above liverpool and this guy don’t respond

[rich estuary]

typa guy i’d lose to aswell jus cuz of superman AI defending

[quasi hedge]

which explains why we’re in a ea fc discord complaining about it you are the problem little bot

[hardy shoal]

Okay! Believe what you want

[hardy shoal]

Lol let's create an escrow

Today

For the 100 usd

[rich estuary]

why am i gonna fund this freaks fc point addiction

[quasi hedge]

do you not understand that we want to talk about fc26? you are not wanted here lil bro go bark up some other tree

[odd hatch]

True, we all can lose to this guy due to AI def in the current state of the game XD that's why he's so thrilled about this update

[rich estuary]

😂😂😂😂

he’s probably glazing ea like that just so they don’t revert

[hardy shoal]

Okay lol who made you admin?

[rich estuary]

ai can feed into his delusion into thinking he has good defending

[hardy shoal]

Lol

[odd hatch]

look at the threads, he's just spamming his msg

[hardy shoal]

Bro so scared

Of Liverpool

[quasi hedge]

i’m just saying what everyone thinks lil bro you are just an annoying little child

[quasi hedge]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 not even brendford is scared of liverpool pipe down lil pup

[hardy shoal]

Okay and I don't care what you think

[hardy shoal]

Lol

[odd hatch]

He's 12 at max.

[quasi hedge]

has to be

or 49 which would be just as concerning

[hardy shoal]

Yeah uncs

[odd hatch]

true

he's around 12 to 50

but more around the edges

[hardy shoal]

Genius spotted,

[gusty falcon]

Do I have to repeat it?

[odd hatch]

Ok toddler, time for me to go, enjoy your patch while you can

[rich estuary]

no mate it’s brainless what u said

buff ai???

you’ve lost it

[hardy shoal]

Lol go live your life on fifa unc

While I live my real life

[quasi hedge]

he meant ai attacking

[gusty falcon]

They absolutely shadow patched ai, can’t find a player without player locking, that’s why people resorting on 451 first time through balls and glitches

[rich estuary]

oh buff ai?

as in attacking

[gusty falcon]

Yeah

[rich estuary]

mb

i thought u meant tackling

[gusty falcon]

Ohhh

[rich estuary]

yeah ai attacking needs buff

100%

[hardy shoal]

Lol bro a coward

Just keeps talking big and broke af

Probably spent all life on fifa

And did nothing in rl

[rich estuary]

bro ur actually a beg man

move away

u can’t be this lonely with no friends

ur begging to bet 100 usd

[hardy shoal]

Bro you're really a coward

Bigging up a 3 match run like a treble