💬┃fc26-discussion

[frigid goblet]

If they went back to launch gameplay, but added the jockey speed increase, and maybe something for kickoff and corners, game would be very good i believe.

[ruby latch]

Bro doesn't even watch football

[alpine finch]

mcgeady cancel dragback fake has never been done in a real game

[vagrant vortex]

'just a casual' 🤣

Are you pro now

I've played for over 20 years you weirdo

[ruby latch]

All the skill moves that are in the game have been performed on the pitch. Infact earlier in fifa's only players that had done a certain skill that was in the gam could do it.
Eg- dele alli tornado

[frigid goblet]

im in elite div and lowest results this year has been 13 wins in WL, i think I understand more than someone in div 6. Just how it is.

[vagrant vortex]

Mum mum, Sean Dyche has parked the bus again, we need to ring the ticket office up and complain

[warm widget]

Guy's is any body here have an input delay issue and lag and packet loss after the last two updates?

Pc users

[vagrant vortex]

You're probably 14

Spend all your time inside

Live with a controller in your hand

[rich dome]

You guys also have problems when trying to connecte to ut companion or web app ?

[vagrant vortex]

Doesn't qualify you to know more about football I'm afraid

Again

It's all opinion

[warm widget]

Yeah opponent not found

[frigid goblet]

you speak like youre 14, you look incompetent

[warm widget]

I cannot play even a full match the controller suddenly not working in the middle of the game

[brisk rapids]

The gameplay is sososososo bad

How can they do this

[frigid goblet]

anyone else in elite divison? you guys like the gameplay? and if so when did you like the gameplay and not like the gameplay?

[brisk rapids]

Like 1 striker destroys my whole team with running???

[wary nymph]

i would love the game if it was like this, early access gameplay i didn’t enjoy gameplay like that since fifa 18 pre patch before they ruined it

[short palm]

anyone else getting disconected every game?

[lofty ferry]

This game has become, AI auto defending and second press defender merchant ,what the helli

[brisk rapids]

Better gameplay than playing bro

[pulsar walrus]

This game is a fidget spinner simulator

[wary nymph]

facts

[lost isle]

Web app/companion down for yall too or just me

[vagrant vortex]

Facts

[brisk rapids]

No its a simulator to get brain illness

[pulsar walrus]

😭😭😭😭

Why is the gameplay so bad now

It was good a few weeks ago

[wary nymph]

i’m pretty sure i will have full blown cte in the next few years

[vagrant vortex]

Streamers started crying and the fidget spin is back

Patch before that it wasn't too bad

[brisk rapids]

Im sure -15 years of my life has gone away bc of stress

[lofty ferry]

are u guys playing on precision shoting or normal.I tryed for a weekk but i keep missing the simple shots bruv

[wary nymph]

always precision

[quick axle]

precision u have more control

[lofty ferry]

im playing with 60 ping is so hard to control when my player will shot

[wary nymph]

and precision generally prioritizes the better animation

[quick axle]

think of it as like raising ur sens and adjusting ur ability to track faster and better

[lofty ferry]

then i will back to it but damn it will take weeks to muscle memory my shoting in the game

[alpine finch]

Sure

[quick axle]

the more you use it the more second nature it becomes

[wary nymph]

honestly i started using it late last year after i heard times finishing was getting removed and after like a day or two it became natural

[quick axle]

nah itll take a few days. be sure to look at ur players feet as there is a line showing u the general direction

use it as a guide then naturally youll be looking away from that

[brisk rapids]

I hope gk movement gets deleted

[lofty ferry]

thanks guys

yeah gk movement is so a'id's

[round steppe]

Skill issue

[quick axle]

the game feels extremely smooth again

after a month of bs

[brisk rapids]

Its a game

To relax and chill

[quick axle]

with gk mvmt im 50/50. majority of the times i never move him cause i do best in defending

[brisk rapids]

Not sweat my butt off fc

[lofty ferry]

well trust me playing on 50 to 50 ping and 60hz monitor its not easy to think sometimes before u shot, and i see people they move the keeper dude before i dribble his player in the box cuz they know they will not be able to defend

[wary nymph]

if they remove gk movement it will make finesse and low drivens shooting even more broken

[upper nova]

is yall ultimate team extremely slow or is it just me? the menu having big loadings when searching in ur club etc

[quick axle]

nah its amazingly smooth for me and im on pc

[lofty ferry]

they should just make it little worse in close range

[brisk rapids]

Yeah bro im playing on tv

[quick axle]

i also deleted the game for about a week so maybe that helped too

[wary nymph]

maybe the gk speed a bit slower

[round steppe]

We’re not gonna cater the game to casuals like you tho. U can chill in division 9 and enjoy yourself that’s fine

[merry elm]

they gonna say anything about web app???

[brisk rapids]

Believe me

[quick axle]

theres gotta be some skill gap agree. otherwise divisions would be pointles

[brisk rapids]

Ppl in div9 are also sweating these times

[astral valve]

Same here

[quick axle]

think of it as a way to get better

also the more calm u are playing the better decision makings

[round steppe]

Sweating or just better than you

[quick axle]

so u just have to acknowledge theres a learning curve

[brisk rapids]

Hahah no buddy

[lofty ferry]

its crazy how fast it moves, i hope u understand me.Before i dribble and pass the defender, his keeepr moves so quick.its not fair to get 50 -50 chance on something that u sweat u balls to get 1v1 in this insane AI auto defending and second defender.People are not even defending anymore,i swear.They relay on second defender and AI

[brisk rapids]

@round steppe

[wary nymph]

difficult when the game is so infuriating lmao

[pulsar walrus]

This game is the worst game I’ve ever played since fc 25

[quick axle]

im in div 3 and a casual player i only play wl and just play with market

[round steppe]

No, skill issue

[brisk rapids]

Ahhh, thats a typical 12 year old sentence

Cut the discussion

[round steppe]

If you genuinely have trouble with gk movement that’s your problem. Get better

[quick axle]

been playing fifa since fifa 08. played semi pro btw fifa 13-16. and then started playing cod more

[brisk rapids]

You cant tell everyone if you play this game you gotta sweat

[lofty ferry]

I know 95% of skills and all the cancel skill moves, i do player lock,which is the only way to pass this Ai legendary/Ultimate.After all that and dribbling , u just choose a side left or right, its not fair.Its based on luck ,not skill.That's not a skill to move a stick right or left

[round steppe]

Then don’t, I don’t care. It’s not my problem you’re not good at something

[lofty ferry]

They will nerff it, u like it or not

[brisk rapids]

Sweats like you destroy alot

[round steppe]

If someone does you with keeper movement that means they’ve read which direction you want to shoot and you shot there. Be less predictable

[lofty ferry]

ur type of player that plays with Pina fidget spinner,relay on controll dribbling abuse left or right from a pass to striker, and gk movement cuz u don't know how to defend

[round steppe]

It’s the casuals like you that remove skill gaps actually

[acoustic path]

riquel lowk if i was you id stop typing

pretty embarrassing

[crimson monolith]

chat

i'm tryna play fc26 and i've got some massive delay

[brisk rapids]

Keep yapping

[crimson monolith]

what settings should i put on

[round steppe]

12 year old sentence, discussion cut

[crimson monolith]

can y'all help a brother out

[lofty ferry]

But if u shot near post it doesn't work 80% of the times.U can't order a cofe and wait him if he moves gk cuz ai defending from behind will take the ball or get in front to block the shot in matter of 1 second

[pulsar walrus]

Playing this game feels like a chore, not a hobby

[brisk rapids]

Hahaha you are such a joke

[brisk rapids]

Exactly

[crimson monolith]

i have like 3-4 seconds of input delay, can y'all tell me what's wrong with my game

[pulsar walrus]

Tryna ragebait is embarrassing

[brisk rapids]

Rt

[round steppe]

Sorry that your ego is hurt. No one cares that you can’t do something. It shouldn’t be taken out of the game because it frustrates you that you’re bad at it

[acoustic path]

people like riquel rely on gk movement cause you cant defend

[pseudo quail]

Anyone know why fut champs points aren’t showing up or being added after each game ?

[brisk rapids]

And he's going and going

[lofty ferry]

3 seconds its alot and its not possible, u must have 500 ping lol, but i do have like u around half of a second delay !

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[acoustic path]

its alr just let him think hes right

[crimson monolith]

it's genuinely absurd, but my ping is around 14 which is why i dont understand what's going on lol

[brisk rapids]

True that hahaha

[round steppe]

It’s not about right or wrong. It’s whether you want to cater to casuals who complain that they can’t do something, or keep a skill gap in the game

[lofty ferry]

what monitor u play and are u on pc,i have heard people on console has little higher delay

[acoustic path]

^^^ 😭

[round steppe]

If you want to cater to casuals then you can vow for ai defending, take gk movement out, yada yada, so you can play the game without getting crapped on

[brisk rapids]

He's actually trying to explain 😭🤣

[crimson monolith]

i'm on pc and my monitor is a 11 year old benq hsjhjs

my specs are good but the monitor is quite bad haha

[onyx wasp]

Help

[round steppe]

You’re just acting like a 12 year old at this point

[acoustic path]

riquel what are the negative effects of removing goalkeeper movement

[onyx wasp]

In a game of rivals

[brisk rapids]

Actually you rely on gk movement

[onyx wasp]

Winning 3-0

[acoustic path]

@round steppe

[brisk rapids]

He cant win anymore

[acoustic path]

let me correct myself, goalkeeper movement in open play. Not during penalties corners or freekicks

[formal arch]

jogo patetico

[round steppe]

It’s a negative to remove something from the game that is part of the skill gap. What are the positives of removing it @acoustic path

[onyx wasp]

Help!! Playing a game of rivals and was winning 3-0. Got a penalty And the guys went to pause it before I took a penalty, then the games went blurry after I’ve scored and now it’s put me controlling his team WTF?!!!

[vagrant vortex]

I don't think you should be able to move the keeper

[onyx wasp]

I’m on a f4cking 6 game win streak about to get promoted why the f4cks the game done this?

[acoustic path]

thats not even a halfway good enough answer. Positives of removing it means more deserved shots on goal arent discredited for just because someone moves their thumb to the right cause they aren't able to defend

rushing a goalkeeper out is fine

[round steppe]

Yeah but beating a keeper is part of football. If you’ve ever been one on one with a keeper it’s a mind game. As is gk movement

[acoustic path]

but moving it left and right is not a skill

[brisk rapids]

They just need to nerf it

[acoustic path]

and its a copout mechanic to deny a goal

you know how you deny a goal riquel? by defending

not abusing a short form awful mechanic that you can constantly bail yourself out on with a 50/50

[round steppe]

Goalkeepers are part of the defense. If a defense gets a clean sheet so does the gk

[torpid kite]

Anyone know why the Companion App isn’t letting me log in?

[acoustic path]

its a last resort get out of jail card that doesnt expand the skill gap

you're right, but when you watch goalkeepers in real life, how many rush to one side of the net before a goal is scored

[round steppe]

That’s what a goalkeeper is. When you beat a defense it’s the last chance to bail out the defense.

[acoustic path]

how many and show me the proof

[vagrant vortex]

GK movement happens too quickly for it to be considered skill

It's more of a bail out

[lofty ferry]

well thats can be the issue for sure, i can't prove it but i have played on 3-7 ping on ea fc and with 144hz monitor.It had huge difference,but i played like 5km or something the distance from EA server, but don't rush as i said , i can't prove that monitor can boost ur reaction and reduce the delay, even tho its proved that it can, but idk how much.

[acoustic path]

yes which is why rushing them out is fine, but a short form half centimeter copout mechanic is dumb and that should only be exclusive to high rated goalkeepers

[onyx wasp]

@main pier can somebody explain wtf is going on? I swear if I don’t get a win for this I’ll personally come to HQ and knock every one of you out 😂

[acoustic path]

the whole point is to prevent a person from shooting on goal, not to let them shoot and hopefully block it

[lofty ferry]

How can u say that, and stop a shot cuz u just moved the keeper left or right

[crimson monolith]

alrighty, thanks for the help o7

[acoustic path]

i know you're new to football but thats how it works

[round steppe]

No, then it becomes more pay to win. You need to have the best players to use a mechanic that everyone can currently use

[acoustic path]

alr lil bro

no arguing with someone who dont know the game

[hoary raven]

is something wrong with servers??

[acoustic path]

yes riquel brought them down

[round steppe]

Okay glad you gave up on that

Anyways

[acoustic path]

dumb ahh lil ahh 14 yr old ahh kid

[brisk rapids]

Rttttttt

Not even 14

[acoustic path]

get your juicebox bo and dont forget string cheese

[brisk rapids]

Hahahahahaha

[round steppe]

U just got destroyed in the actual debate and resort to this 12 year old bs. We know who the actual 12 year old is here

[acoustic path]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[bright horizon]

i love ea :3

[acoustic path]

this guy is 13 years old and tries to discredit anyone who disagrees with him saying that they're 12

[round steppe]

Lol so great

[crimson monolith]

no one's ever said this sentence out loud i promise you

[acoustic path]

riquel how is 7th grade

[round steppe]

Only the ones in their payroll tbf

[bright horizon]

wouldnt have made 3m coins without them tonight

:)

[round steppe]

How did u make 3mil

[acoustic path]

by not moving his gk

[crimson monolith]

real

[crimson monolith]

w pfp

[round steppe]

Alright Berlin the grownups are talking

Run along

[bright horizon]

i bought a few ultimate scream cards this morning

sold during hype

made 3m

[acoustic path]

bro you lost the debate 12 yr old

its okay dont cry

[round steppe]

Damn smart

[crimson monolith]

well i guess i wont compliment anyone ever again because i dont even get a thank you 💔

[round steppe]

💀

[brisk rapids]

He needs a goalkeeper simulator game tbh

[round steppe]

Wait till bro finds out goalkeepers are part of football

[acoustic path]

those who know 💀

[drowsy forge]

jersey grab is rb+a right?

[lethal crow]

Web app down for y'all?

[drowsy forge]

Nope

[pulsar walrus]

Refs in this game are awful

[sage merlin]

Does anyone know when we will be able to evo the silverstar icons?

I thought they said we could after season 1 ?

[peak cliff]

Does anyone know when we will be able to play fc 26?

[vast forge]

Guess nobody likes the scream cards, crazy to see how Griezmann and Mbeumo just went down 60k+

[thorny drum]

Bought scream cards yesterday lol and price has gone down

[vast forge]

ggs

[ruby latch]

Cards were already overinflated yesterday.

[red sequoia]

is the game cooked rn? played 1 game and it was unstable whole time. Im matching with min 50 ping

[thorny drum]

You can get decent defenders with 99 defending for 11k lol

[ruby latch]

The only decent ones that have the 99 upgrade were overinvested and dropped today with the exception of cabal.

[thorny drum]

frances

no way that's worth 12k

[cursive ice]

guys is the input delay fixed for more than 60fps?

[ruby latch]

No jockey no intercept no anticipate. There is a reason he is 12 k mate

[pulsar walrus]

Never playing rivals again

[merry stirrup]

having to go through the entire team's defense to finally get in the box just for the goalie to bail out the other player is not a part of the skill gap, the opportunity to shoot is the reward from outskilling them

[mortal hatch]

Anyone else getting crazy input delay after halftime? You press escape it goes away for a few mins and then returns? On PC?

[warm stirrup]

Mad you can try any striker and Pina will still be better haha

[pure imp]

are the servers dead?

[subtle cairn]

Very

Console is literally unplayable I played 1 game of rivals and Im already tired and wanna turn the game off

Could play for hours before all the patches

Now its just FC25 2.0

Ball bouncing everywhere, input lag and delay and unrewarding manual tackles

[merry stirrup]

should managers be able to get red carded in game? Should the ball bounce off the refs? pitch invaders are also a part of football

[tranquil fossil]

If I buy ea pro right now will I get the icon pack still?

[subtle cairn]

Probably not

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[trail tinsel]

worst fifa ever

even 25 was better

[undone bramble]

Boys I need some tips with my team where or who do you think can help

[trail tinsel]

manual controlling players running with stones in shoes

[undone bramble]

99 pace on big benz is lovely work tho👀

[trail tinsel]

lol tested him he is still slow as fk fake stats

[undone bramble]

Brudda ran thru my opponents defence

Pogba 99 shooting IS FAKE

[trail tinsel]

whole game is fake

each year worse

[undone bramble]

But I spent 180k on the pack

Trick or treat

I packed around 2 mil value💀💀

[twilit iron]

Marchisio 99 pace gets outrun by pina who had the ball lmao

Stats makes no sense this year

[undone bramble]

Matuidi RUNNING THE DEFENCE with 99 physical

[merry stirrup]

bruh I hate l1 dribbling every time I try to predict a tackle my player gets knocked off the ball like a domino

[whole plover]

yo guys how is there players with 99 pace ???

ehat is goin on

[wraith meadow]

Its just temporary

[whole plover]

how u get those temporary stuff

[long tapir]

Can u guys do something about these servers, its unplabale like fc25 wtf is going on

[hushed merlin]

First month it was 9/10
Now its 0/10
It’s really garbage, there are words that can describe how bad this game is, but it’s inappropriate.
I got 8 wins in fut champs ( the lowest rank I’ve ever got ) i swear i was up by 3 or 4 goals in 4 of the matches that I ended up losing, and they say that there isn’t any script, now I played 3 rivals games and I was up 1-4 and the other match 3-1 I ended up losing, such a shame to ruin a game just like that. What a trash game it’s been since mid October.

[sour tusk]

is there any way i can play online with no gamepass

[hushed merlin]

Run away, play something better, u deserve a better game to play

[mossy pike]

Same

I can understand you so much but for me it was good in fut but in rivals so bad

[soft terrace]

bunch of crybabies 😭

[mossy pike]

I want to see you play with lags and huge lags and game crashes.

[soft terrace]

get a better pc buddy

i havent gotten dcd in weeks

[mossy pike]

I have ps5

[soft terrace]

or lagged at all

console is so ahh

[mossy pike]

And I have Rtx 4060ti and amd 7700x

But I don’t play in the pc

[thin bluff]

Is anyone else getting absolutely hammered in rivals every game and when you do get a win it’s so lucky?

[mossy pike]

Yeah me

We need to feedback ea

And told them to fix the server

We need to do something

If we cause them problems and talk and pester them about it, it will happen and they will improve the servers.

[tawdry briar]

@oak pond can you add Vardy to the game please he had a club scoring and I need him for my Leicester team

[mossy pike]

He’ll na

[round steppe]

That’s what a goalkeeper is though

[whole plover]

its pay to win trash anyway

[round steppe]

You’re comparing goalkeeping being a part of football with pitch invaders. Not exactly an equal comparison

[whole plover]

riquelme is probs wallet warrior

[round steppe]

Wdym

Why

[whole plover]

like u dont want that gk movement gets rid off, usually its done by wallet warriors

[round steppe]

Yeah idk what you’re saying bro

[whole plover]

arent u talking about gk movement being removed?

when u dont have the ball

[round steppe]

Yeah

[whole plover]

and u dont want it removed?

[round steppe]

Yeah I don’t want it removed

[whole plover]

so yeah ur probs p2w

[round steppe]

I haven’t bought fifa points since fifa 13

How would paying to win and goalkeeper movement have anything to do with one another

[whole plover]

i mean i like fifa but it has became too much transaction based

[round steppe]

How does goalkeeper movement have anything to do with that

[whole plover]

it does have since only people who cant defend use that

so they get lucky saves

with 0 skill

[round steppe]

It’s just an added element to defense

You can be good at defending and move your goalkeeper

[mossy pike]

Ea need stop ruined the game

Fasttt

Can’t play in rivles

[whole plover]

i mean its dumb lol

[mossy pike]

Not fun

[whole plover]

not to mention that game became counter simulator

[round steppe]

I get it’s frustrating if you’re a casual player, to beat a defense and have an added element to worry about beating. But for higher level players it’s just normal

[latent frost]

You are 100% right

[whole plover]

sure yeah for the ones that spend 20k dollars

to get best team and then act like they good

let em play with normal stuff so we see

[latent frost]

Gk mouvement need to be removed

[mossy pike]

Yeah but they need to fix they servers

[latent frost]

This is another topic but yes absolutely

[mossy pike]

No one enjoy from this game anymore

[round steppe]

Honestly you just need to improve. Goalkeeper movement relies on reading where you’re shooting. If they move the keeper where they think you’re going to shoot and you still shoot there it’s a you issue. You should be upset at yourself not the game

[mossy pike]

It’s better important

Like if the game felling slow how you can play

[whole plover]

lol what div are u?

[mossy pike]

The gk momvement not change nothings if you lag

[latent frost]

He is playing challengers this week-end

[round steppe]

I don’t play fut anymore just competitive pro clubs and 11s leagues

[whole plover]

ofc

[latent frost]

Lol i told you

[whole plover]

u a tru og fifa player

[mossy pike]

FIFA 22 and fifa 23 it was so funnnn

[round steppe]

Yeah we’ve had human goalkeepers in pro clubs for over a decade. It’s not hard to outsmart a goalkeeper. If you’re struggling just try to be less predictable

[whole plover]

when fifa wasnt gk silumator

[mossy pike]

19

[whole plover]

bro u move it slightly and u can save everything

its not fully commiting

its broken

[round steppe]

U move it to one side and the other half of the goal is an open goal

Shoot the other way

[whole plover]

u dont even know how to use it

[lethal crow]

Seems we can't tag easports anymore

[whole plover]

but want it to stay

[lethal crow]

Or is it just me

[round steppe]

Yes I do

[acoustic path]

finally bro

i got ronaldo

im off this game

riquelme you a baby bro dont forget

[whole plover]

bro if u move it to one side its ez goal for opponent

[round steppe]

Alright Berlin with the gen alpha comments

[whole plover]

u need to move it slightly to left or right and push gk bit forward

and its saving almost everything

auto

[round steppe]

Then the goalkeeper is frozen and you can side step for an open net

[whole plover]

oh yeah if ur opponent font have defendrs at all

[round steppe]

It’s really not that hard. They’re just reading what they think you’re going to do

[whole plover]

bro u comment but dont even play rivals

anyway doesnt matter

no sense in this

[round steppe]

There’s goalkeeper movement in clubs as well bro

As well as human goalkeepers in 11v11

[whole plover]

its not being abused like in rivals

[round steppe]

Yes it is, every captain moves their goalkeepers

[whole plover]

um okay

[viscid cosmos]

This benzema makes me wanna be 15 years old DAYUMMM

[round steppe]

Okay

[whole plover]

i give up, discussing with ppl who only know how to move gk makes no sense

[round steppe]

Glad you gave up

[brave cobalt]

GK movement is the worst thing in the world. Ai cpu improvement also, squad battles is a nightmare.

[merry stirrup]

Well this game isn't real life football, having to build up play to get into the box only for you to flick a random direction and save the shot does not make for fun gameplay, nor is it even realistic if you're really trying to compare this to football, goalkeepers do not just abandon positioning and move in an unnatural direction

[stuck flume]

last patch destroyed whole game

[fresh jungle]

Skill issue

Keeper movement is a good thing

[fresh drift]

any shot a good player takes while having precision shooting on is going to be a goal

[fresh jungle]

Without keeper movement every shot would be a goal

[fresh drift]

it simply needs to be in the game

[fresh drift]

yup

[fresh jungle]

Can’t stop low drivens or finesses without it

It also brings a skill gap

Bit of mindgames

[fresh drift]

they added too many broken shooting mechanics

[merry stirrup]

it's a crutch that rewards players who couldn't defend, the keeper can still catch goals sometimes even if moved the wrong direction, only time keepers should be able to be moved is to send them out or during penalty/fk/corners

[round steppe]

Goalkeeper is part of a defense

There’s 11 players on a team not 10

[fresh drift]

players who can't defend are going to concede either way, gk movement or not. You should not be getting a free goal just because you have an half chance, which is how it'd be without if GK movement wasn't a thing

genuinely can't believe EA even created that poll

[soft sandal]

Le jeu a augmenté en vitesse pourquoi faire c'est quoi le but ?
Nul nul nul c'est du football pas de la NBA

[merry stirrup]

last line of defense who is also the most powerful player on the pitch, turning open nets into 50/50 makes for frustrating gameplay

[fresh drift]

like how's this even a discussion

[soft sandal]

Bientôt il vont voler les joueurs tellement ça va vite

[round steppe]

It’s only the most powerful line of defense if every shot you take is predictable. That’s the element of skill gap. Learn to be less predictable and all of your shots won’t be guessed

[swift sentinel]

someone is down to play rivals?

[brave cobalt]

if i pass 5 of your players and im constantly having a chance in the area is a almost 100% goal, if you can save this, just moving youre GK making it a 50/50, for me, is not fair. And its not a skill issue, a skill issue is the need to move the GK to save goals. Play the game, make football, and when you have a chance, and u decides well, it should be goal, not a casillas save every shot

[soft sandal]

Demandé encore plus de vitesse les mec c'est bien continuer comme ça

J'ai payé pour jouer 2 mois plus jamais j'achète cette merde

[round steppe]

Just because you create a chance to shoot doesn’t mean you score. Goalkeepers are a part of football, it’s not an open net once you beat a defense

[fresh drift]

you're simply not good enough to understand that you do not need to pass through 5 defenders if you have precision shooting turned on

[merry stirrup]

except 90% of the time they are not making a "read", they're just flicking a direction and praying it saves, why should a simple flick of the stick determine whether the entire built up play goes in or not?

[brave cobalt]

it should be, 9/10 times

as always

this is a game of football, not the real life

[round steppe]

You literally said it, a game of football. Goalkeepers are a part of football.

[merry stirrup]

you're not even controlling whether or not they dive, try to save a top bins or only move slightly, you literally move one direction and the ai will do the rest

that's not a skill gap

[round steppe]

Idk why these casuals think it should just be an open net once they beat a defense

[fresh drift]

why are people so eager to remove any sort of skill gap in the game

[round steppe]

Because it frustrates them and then they come here and complain when they get beaten by it

[brave cobalt]

yep, the GK is here to save some shots, not to be a mech that makes me save the shots of a better player than me that is shooting me many times and i just move the GK

its better to try to defend, and when its a 1v1 9/10 times should be goal

[merry stirrup]

so using this logic we should never criticize any broken feature of the game if we lose to it because we can do it too?

[round steppe]

It’s not broken, you’re just not good at it and are getting frustrated

[fresh drift]

brother you literally have a free goal if you wait 0.5 secs before taking the shot

[round steppe]

So your issue is that you think you’re losing to people who are worse than you because of their goalkeeper movement. That’s just you refusing to accept you’re worse than someone

[fresh drift]

how's that broken

[long tapir]

The servers are the only thing that need touching

[merry stirrup]

it's one of if not the strongest input you can do in this game, you don't even know what you're talking about and would rather patronize than give a real argument

[round steppe]

It’s not, goalkeeper movement is so easy to beat, it’s probably one of the easiest things. Unless you’re struggling and every shot you take is predictable

[merry stirrup]

using your knucklewalker logic they shouldn't have fixed kickoffs because both players get to do kickoffs so it's not broken

[fresh drift]

he's quite literally right though, it's not a broken mechanic, it's a mechanic that NEEDS to be in the game due to other broken mechanics

[brave cobalt]

skill gap? tell people who is playing since past fifas what skill gap is, now there isn't any skillgap, people are winning by: CPU defending, GK movement, ping and connection, and more broken features in the game, this is not skill, is just take advantage of unfair features in the game. True skill was in a fair situation and a balanced gameplay be better than the othrer, making football, having good tactics and playstyle and all the things that in the past fifas you can do, but now, a player that is way worse than you can win you being a rat, thats not skill.

[round steppe]

You complain about ai defending and want to remove user input from goalkeepers to make them completely ai driven. Makes no sense

[fresh drift]

so you're a rat if you move your keeper

you people genuinely cannot be real

[brave cobalt]

GK movement is apart of ai defending

[fresh drift]

it's literally the opposite????

[brave cobalt]

i don't want to do it, me and anyone

[round steppe]

Goalkeeper movement is the opposite of ai tf lol

[soft sandal]

why did you increase the speed, it's more football!
It's not the NBA.
why increase the speed to this point, what is the goal??
It's not possible to play a football game without knowing what football is.
the game goes too much too fast, it's rubbish, no way to play, no fun.
it's about the ea teams have changed it's not possible the new generations are so bad soon you're going to ask for Batman and Superman cards because you're a dirty community who know nothing about football I don't understand why he listens to you either it comes from you or again in ea he has a problem somewhere.

[brave cobalt]

thats what im saying, i dont want to move my keeper

[brave cobalt]

agree

[merry stirrup]

if it's a mechanic that needs to be in the game why do you only need to do one input to lock down essentially an entire side of the goal? if it really was a skill gap mechanic you would have to move and predict at what height and area they're going to shoot

[fresh drift]

"I don't wanna score goals so I hope EA removes that feature from the game aswell"

[pale rivet]

The guys that move their goalie warm up the bench with their Sunday team.

[soft sandal]

We still have to increase the speed until we make them blind, that's what we have to do

[merry stirrup]

when you shoot you choose what type of goal and where exactly you're going to shoot it, you don't just tap it and the game chooses the strength, type of shot, and where it will land

[brave cobalt]

The rats and the fake proplayers are who want to move their GK to save more goals by "SKILL"?, play better, and without GK movement you will make more goals, and take more aswell, but its more fun, more fair, like it always has been

[waxen sand]

People do realise you can just move the GK across by double tapping Y (Xbox) and tapping it again to move him back

[fresh drift]

you literally don't have to think about where you're going to place your shot when you have a player with finesse shot plus or low driven plus

[merry stirrup]

the goalie input is the equivalent of using a player holding one direction and the game breaking every defenders ankles for you because you're going that direction

[merry stirrup]

so

how about you realize that's because the shots are too strong and not because of the design of the game

if anything those types of shots just need to be nerfed and gk movement removed to reward actual good play?

[fresh jungle]

Or just wait for the keeper movement?

[brave cobalt]

with GK movement trivela and finesse were broken anyways, so

[fresh drift]

well then, ea should specify that shooting is going to receive an overhaul if GK gets removed

[waxen sand]

^

[fresh jungle]

I can already guess you’re a low division

[waxen sand]

Get SBMM in clubs imo 🤣

[fresh drift]

and ea already removed what made them broken, which was timed shooting

[round steppe]

Lol

[merry stirrup]

gk movement was literally only added as a way to market "new features" and"realism" because they dropped the ball by making some shots broken in fifa 19

[fresh drift]

and since then they've added new shooting mechanics that are only balanced due to GK movement

[waxen sand]

Gimmicks like GK movement get added cause EA don’t know how to strike a good balance with GK behaviour. Just like all the other nonsense gimmicks they added over the years.

[merry stirrup]

and even when it did require you to actually control the keeper more it was absolutely broken because they could jog from one post to the other in a heartbeat

[brave cobalt]

with a good connection you can do it, but just the thing that you have to wait the GK move before shooting gives the opponent more time to defend, just decide the right angle, and the GK can have a nice animation too and block some goals, it never has been a 100% goal every time you shoot, but if you decide well, and i move the keeper u get the clown face, for me its not skill gap, is an unfair feature, but that's my opinion after play this game 15 years, i respect others opinion but i honestly thing is because is a way to win more games being a rat

[fresh jungle]

But imo only casuals complain about it, it improves the game for top tier players.

You’ll notice it’s good once u player at a higher level.

[fresh drift]

calling someone a rat because they move their keeper is genuinely insane and tells me eveything I need to know about you

[waxen sand]

I just cba to use it I can’t lie lol

I know I’ve lost games cause of it

[spiral rapids]

Everyone who moves the goalkeeper is a rat

[fresh drift]

sounds like a skill issue to me

[round steppe]

That’s what it is. It’s so hard for them to beat a defense and then think about an added element of beating a goalkeeper as well, so it frustrates them.

For higher level players it’s just a natural thing to think about

[waxen sand]

Everything makes you a rat to low skill players

Winning makes you a rat

[brave cobalt]

i thing its not a skill gap feature as you are saying, i think i play in a high level and for me its unfair

[spiral rapids]

touch grass

[fresh drift]

telling someone to touch grass in a ea fc discord

[vapid willow]

i need old squad battles, ea sports go back

[spiral rapids]

EA=PSOE

[fresh drift]

genuinely cannot be a real human being

[fresh drift]

whats your division

[fresh jungle]

Define high level

[merry stirrup]

top tier players would praise stadium fans giving chemistry to players of that club if it helped them win more games, and even then there are top players who don't like gk movement either but everyone uses it because it is so good

[waxen sand]

They need to start separating these chats into division brackets so we don’t have to hear div9 opinions

[wintry shore]

im elite and keeper movement is a dumb bailout mechanic he is right #justiceforroberto

[vapid willow]

I play top level, I am on 9th division

[spiral rapids]

facts

#justiceforroberto

[wintry shore]

frfr

[waxen sand]

Wit

[fresh jungle]

If my opponent saves a goal by gk movement, i always think ‘good movement by him’

[brave cobalt]

[fresh drift]

no no no you're supposed to call him a rat

[wintry shore]

becuase u are brainwashed

[spiral rapids]

🇲🇦

[brave cobalt]

[waxen sand]

I’m not a fan of GK movement cause I cba to use it but it’s not like it’s impossible to score against it. Just near post them innit lol

But div9 players don’t think

[round steppe]

We should completely remove goalkeepers altogether and make it 10v10 with an open net so it’s easier for the casual player

[vapid willow]

🇪 🇦 🟰 🅿️ 🇸 🇴 🇪

[outer plover]

Why is the matchmaking so crash
I play against like div 1 players
I am in div 6
I played today over 20 matches i have no win
Server is crashed
Pina cards are much op they must be patched ea

[fresh jungle]

Bro i play fc pro ladder qualifying and even with gk movement all games end in 5-5

I was top 150 when i logged off, having a good chance to qualify.

[vapid willow]

I just need old squad battles, I don't care about gk movement

[brave cobalt]

🤓 👆

[wintry shore]

owned by roberto

[spiral rapids]

🏳️‍🌈

[fresh jungle]

Bro has FIFA in his name and calls me a nerd

[spiral rapids]

❌ ♥️

[strong depot]

Ai defending needs to get nerfed and manual defending needs to get buffed physical tackles are so as*

[brave cobalt]

hahaha

[fresh jungle]

Just accept that some ppl are better than u

[waxen sand]

^

[fresh drift]

the only thing that needs to be removed are roles and playstyles

[spiral rapids]

🧌

[fresh drift]

that's the real problem with the game but people haven't figured it out

[fresh jungle]

💯

[fresh jungle]

That makes no sense

[vapid willow]

Roles should be removed, and get old squad battles back

[brave cobalt]

🐀

[waxen sand]

Bring back ultra defensive

[plain gulch]

This game is so boring. Gg ea for ruining the game ONCE again

[spiral rapids]

🐷

[round steppe]

Lol

[fresh jungle]

And drop back striker

[waxen sand]

😂

[fresh drift]

course it does, what's the point of roles limiting the way you play? and stats are basically irrelevant due to platstyles

[vapid willow]

I need injury prone trait back in the game

[waxen sand]

And where you could physically customise it and make it an 8 at the back for gamebattles matches

[brave cobalt]

🤪

[merry stirrup]

I like roles but not players having to be compatible with them, and playstyles are dumb

[round steppe]

Custom formations were better

[vapid willow]

Roles should be in tactics not in player attributes

[fresh jungle]

But playstyles makes players unique

[spiral rapids]

🇲 🇴 🇷 🇴

[waxen sand]

When they switched to FM style roles they should’ve had an in possession and out of possession as well could’ve done it by now

[fresh drift]

I mean that's basically old instructions

they ruined attacking AI thanks to roles

[vapid willow]

Get old squad battles back, this is the last warning

[waxen sand]

I won’t lie attacking AI has been dog piss for years

[merry stirrup]

it makes players gimmicky and also just makes stats irrelevant if you have trash playstyles

[waxen sand]

That’s the only reason gimmicks like player lock exists

[fresh drift]

no playstyles are quite literally a way ea found to make the game even more profitable

[brave cobalt]

actually facts

[fresh drift]

thats all there is to it

[frigid goblet]

its funny how the gameplay is easily at the worst its ever been after all of the patches theyve made

99 dribbling griezman moves like vvd its awesome

[waxen sand]

I guess but half of them are pony so you just end up with an even more restricted meta. It’s not like you can actually run BPD on your CBs etc and do well

You won’t compete

[spiral rapids]

facts

[brave cobalt]

🫵 👏

[merry stirrup]

lewandowski should be a beast but he's basically fodder because he's running chip shot+ and you have pina just running lobbies because she's blessed with amazing playstyles

[fresh jungle]

That’s true

[fresh jungle]

Pina my fav bitsh

[waxen sand]

Like playstyles and roles are a good concept but in a game where people will find the meta mechanic that works the best, half that stuff goes out the window

I hate wingers, IFs always sit too narrow around the box etc it’s just bad

[fresh drift]

like a player with 99 passing shouldn't feel useless if they don't have passing playstyles

but thats how it works

[brave cobalt]

wich role do you like for wingers

[fresh jungle]

I sometimes don’t get how EA determines who gets which playstyles

[waxen sand]

Mad when basically any chip shot goes in cause GKs can’t catch up to or reach a ball inches away from them

[round steppe]

I hate that fr

[fresh jungle]

There are players with 70 passing who get 3 passing playstyles and players with 85+ who gets none.

[waxen sand]

I use IFs cause I don’t think anything else is viable. Wingers give width sure but around the box you want them coming a little bit inside. IFs come inside too much too early and narrow all the space

Not to mention you get a little forced into running a ++ role if they have it provided it’s a decent role

[vapid willow]

Ea sports I'm praying, get old squad battles difficulty back

[fresh drift]

that's the thing ea can just release a broken card on the market because it has good playstyles

[round steppe]

Stats basically mean nothing. I have a sweeper keeper build in pro clubs with technical, long ball plus, incisive pass. And I play him in the midfield

[waxen sand]

Like the whole roles and playstyles and tactics stuff was meant to add variety a bit like FM. But in reality only about 2-3 roles and playstyles are worth using

[ruby sonnet]

I tried ribery in draft on like wide playmaker ++ or something and he’d touch the ball like once a game, inside forwards is like the only one that works it feels like

[waxen sand]

So they’ve screwed themselves cause it’s made the game even more restricted and meta abusing

[fresh drift]

it's much easier for them to make money this way rather than justifying why a certain card has 99 shooting or whatever

[fresh jungle]

Tried many strikers but always have to put Pina back because she just has all the important playstyles.

[waxen sand]

Yeah exactly. It’s great on counters, but once they get numbers behind the ball you have absolutely no width

[granite fern]

vaya parche mas malo hermano , que basura , hacer algo ya porque es imposible jugar bien

[fresh jungle]

Tiki taka, low driven, finesse, game changer, technical and incisive is crazy for one player

[spiral rapids]

factos

[fresh drift]

ea can randomly drop a evo that gives you finesse shot plus and price it at 100k just because they feel like it

[spiral rapids]

🇪 🇦 🟰 🅿️ 🇸 🇴 🇪

[waxen sand]

Again the concept of roles means you should be able to use BPD and your fullbacks should be able to attack more but cause it’s fifa it just doesn’t work

[brave cobalt]

a ver cuando saca el nuevo parche pedro sanchez

[granite fern]

mis jugadores estan gordisimos

y voy con hansen

[waxen sand]

All the roles yet everyone has to use defend on every defender

[pale rivet]

This game is ridiculous and whoever backs it up is a bench warmer

[fresh jungle]

I prefer the old tactics

[fresh drift]

5ATB and 3ATB formations are dead because of roles

[peak cliff]

am i tweakin or they just repaired game???

[waxen sand]

Yeah it was primitive but you actually had more variety of uses

[fresh jungle]

Come inside, stay outside of the box for crosses, get back on defense

[obsidian oracle]

brr brr patapim

[waxen sand]

Nowadays there’s maybe a small amount of variation in formations but nearly every role and player is the same due to some playstyles being way better than others. I genuinely expect them to get rid of playstyles soon cause like everything else, they can’t get the balance right. Some are so strong and others non existent

[vapid willow]

This game is not about football, it's like a flip coin the one who wins it is going to win the match no matter how you try to win, your players are always going to feel worse than the rival ones even if you are using the same players or better ones.

[spiral rapids]

🗣️

[fresh drift]

they won't ever get rid of something that makes them a huge amount of money

[spiral rapids]

☑️

[waxen sand]

They’ve already got rid of gimmicks that they’ve failed to get right

So I don’t see why they wouldn’t

[fresh drift]

something as profitable as playstyles?

like what

[waxen sand]

Timed finishing for a start

GK movement next

Whenever they can’t find a balance they get rid

[fresh drift]

timed finishing made it so you could score with bad players

[waxen sand]

Or introduce more settings to pass the responsibility onto the player

[fresh drift]

it wasnt profitable for them so they removed it

[fresh drift]

yet another thing that's not profitable for them

[waxen sand]

It won’t be profitable when everyone gets so bored of the same thing every game

[ruby sonnet]

I have ball playing defender on saliba, what are the difference and I haven’t seemed to notice any

[fresh drift]

you won't be able to use anything but the most meta goalkeepers if it gets removed

[waxen sand]

I didn’t say it was, I’m naming things they’ve removed cause they’re either broken or terrible

[brave cobalt]

as always has been

[waxen sand]

They push wider and higher to support possession like they would irl. Issue is on fifa that leaves you more open to being countered

[brave cobalt]

its better to don't care about which GK are you playing with?

[fresh drift]

you can get away with 83 rated goalkeepers if you know how to use GK movement

[brave cobalt]

and where's the skill gap then

[waxen sand]

I swear ima break this iPhone any more spelling errors being gaslight by this company deliberately mistyping stuff

[mental quiver]

i hate all the people who are working on this game

[brave cobalt]

that why this is an unfair feature

[fresh drift]

the skill gap means I get to use lower rated players because I know how to get the most out of game mechanics

it's really not hard to understand

[vapid willow]

I've played with silver Gk, even with Bronze ones and they were saving without needing to be moved manually

[brave cobalt]

people even don't defend just because they know moving the keeper is their way to don't get goals, thats actually sad

[waxen sand]

I remember back in fifa 12 days cutting about with silver teams and bronze players before SBMM in the form of rivals

[fresh drift]

how's it sad and if it's that good why don't you get good at it

[mental quiver]

all the players on the pitch have intercept++++ and 100 def, hate this game

[brave cobalt]

i do it but i think its not skill its an unfair feature

[waxen sand]

I mean it’s not. It’s a 50/50 guess by the player and it’s easy to beat

[vapid willow]

It's stupid to discuss about a "unfair feature" in a unfair game

[brave cobalt]

and you think its fair to have a 50/50 after beat all the defense and having a 1v1

[waxen sand]

Even if there’s no GK movement you could still miss, it doesn’t really change much if you have composure

[fresh drift]

I don't think it's fair that you get to score from a half chance, no

[waxen sand]

If someone moves their GK once, twice, all you have to do is remember that the third time and near post them like it’s not complicated

[brave cobalt]

ofc, but there should be the possibility to fail, but always being a 50/50 by the GK movement feels bad and unfair for me

[waxen sand]

50/50 is the definition of even, so how can it be unfair

[fresh drift]

it's a 100/0 if you just wait 0.5 seconds

[fresh drift]

and if you beat all your opponent's defense, as you claim, you should have all the time in the world to do that

[waxen sand]

Honestly if you think GK movement is unfair wait until you play clubs against a human GK

[brave cobalt]

i make tones of goals justy waiting people to move their GK, thats also unfair for me, probabbly they will block more shots if they don't move the keeper, past fifas without this feature fells more natural and fair for me in the 1v1s

[fresh jungle]

brito for president

[ruby sonnet]

Didn’t realise that tbf, I usually just use whatever role ++ my player has do you think it’d be better to ignore that and choose a different role even if they don’t have it + or ++ ?

[waxen sand]

Like I’m not a fan of GK movement as I cba to use it, but it’s not something that’s impossible to beat. It’s really simple to score against if you have a brain

[brave cobalt]

vs a div10 player maybe you can wait many times, but play in a close game in fut champs and wait 2 seconds to shot

[waxen sand]

Depends on the role, but say you play with a CAM who has half winger++, I wouldn’t use it. Most of the roles are totally pointless tbh

[ruby sonnet]

I used to not care about gk movement but some of my past few games made me change my mind, there’s situations where im under pressure and need to get the shot off, and they’ll move their keeper literally the slightest bit and it’s an automatic save

And I mean barely moved

[fresh jungle]

Even against pro’s u can wait

[fresh drift]

then you haven't beaten their defense as you claim lmao

[waxen sand]

Literally all you have to do is look at the GK quickly and see if he moves

[waxen sand]

I used to play a ton of 11v11 competitive pro clubs with human GKs so some minor movement on UT is nothing in comparison lol

[brave cobalt]

i know but there are situations where you can wait this much, and u just make the right choice and a stupid move with the joistick saves the rat

[waxen sand]

And the same could happen if they don’t move the GK and you get your angles wrong

[brave cobalt]

ye but then its my fault if i don't decide well

true skill in attack

[waxen sand]

But once you see that they move the GK constantly, the moment you have a split second to think or watch for it, you do the opposite

Then it becomes habit

[fresh jungle]

This game is dumb anyways

[waxen sand]

Honestly GK movement is really not a big issue for me it’s something you can easily beat if you have some skill or experience

[brave cobalt]

🤓 👆

[fresh jungle]

I can score rainbow flick bycicle kicks 95% of the time outside of the box from any angle, thats a bigger issue to me.

[brave cobalt]

facts

[waxen sand]

Just a question but what div are you out of curiosity

[brave cobalt]

from fifa 19 to fc24 elite div

now i was on 2

i don't like to play vs rats on rivals

[waxen sand]

Then how are you this baffled by GK movement

I’m calling cap

[fresh drift]

gk movement has been a thing for years

[fresh jungle]

GK movement has been a thing for a long time

[waxen sand]

You’ve had 5 years of knowing GK movement exists at that level you should know how to beat it by now I’m sorry

[fresh drift]

did you suddenly forget how to play against it

[brave cobalt]

i don't do it i told you, i know what it is and its not a big problem for me to win, but at the same time i consider it is unfair and i don't like it, sometimes a win by this and i also don't think it is skill

[sour tusk]

just pulled bonmati suiiiii

[waxen sand]

If it’s not a problem for you to win, then what have you been complaining about for the last hour

[brave cobalt]

best feet in the world 👏

[sour tusk]

50k from 250 sbcs

[vapid willow]

facts

[waxen sand]

I think it’s unfair when I miss a tackle and they score, so I want tackling removed pls

[pale rivet]

This game is just unrealistic if you put it side by side to a real match half of the stuff in the game does not happen

[brave cobalt]

because im a fan of this game and i hate seeing rats with low level winning games by this feauture and this year im seeing this more than others, and this year the GK are so strong, and if 1v1 are not easy and you move the keeper all the time, its frustrating, and when i do it, many times my opponent made the right choice and i just move the keeper and solved the situation, thats not skill for me, i prefer to concede the goal and make more goals by playing football and making the right choices in attack, as always has been in this game

[fresh drift]

do you not understand that it's not a choice

[waxen sand]

I’ve honestly never thought the reason I’ve lost is cause the opponent is using GK movement. I think of it as I’ve lost cause I’ve not countered his GK movement. So it sounds like a you problem

[fresh drift]

you're admitting you're just not that good at the game by "choosing" not to move your keeper

[waxen sand]

I don’t think ‘ah he’s won cause he moved his GK’.
I think damn I lost cause he moved he GK and I didn’t do the opposite

[fresh jungle]

Who here also thinks Roberto is secretly a division 7 player

[waxen sand]

Now now I cba to use it as well tbf

I know I’m at a disadvantage cause I don’t use it though

And I’m ok with that

[fresh drift]

exactly

thats what Im getting at

[waxen sand]

Tbf I use the double tap Y thing if I have to

Kinda similar

[fresh drift]

thing is div 7 players can't be that good at moving their keeper

[brave cobalt]

i think you guys are just rats in elite getting advantage of the broken meta

this game has no skill at all

[waxen sand]

You claimed to be an elite player for 5 years so either you’re lying or

Lying

[brave cobalt]

you think u are good players but are just broken things

[vapid willow]

sometimes you can't counter the rival moving his Gk because of this game not feeling as responsive as it should

[brave cobalt]

im not lying

[fresh drift]

were you a rat priror to this year too

[fresh drift]

so you were indeed a rat

[fresh jungle]

Making assumptions like usual

[waxen sand]

And sometimes you’ll get your angles wrong and miss. Sometimes you’ll miss a player switch or a tackle. It’s the way the game goes

[vapid willow]

This game is far away from a fair game, almost always the rival players are moving way better than mines

[fresh drift]

like I hate player locking too and it's annoying to face someone who's good at it

[fresh jungle]

Sounds like a skill issue

[ruby sonnet]

Yeah but when you don’t get them wrong, and get a shot on target after you’ve managed to create a chance and get in behind, your opponent shouldn’t have a get out jail free card and be able to move their keeper to guarantee a save

[wicked girder]

fc26 is the greatest fc game

[graceful drift]

cabal gonna get a price increase?

[waxen sand]

If I see an opponent move his GK at every opportunity, the next time I’m getting half a yard to shoot I’m just near posting him without hesitation. If I have time I’m waiting for him to move his GK it’s really not a hard concept

[brave cobalt]

yep there are always broken things, but this year are soo unfair and theres no skill gap, in the past years my knowledge about fifa made me play in elite, but now you play vs braindeads and they can win you more often

[fresh drift]

but I understand it's important to be in the game as AI attacking is just awful

[pale rivet]

How about you guys just play each other and end the beef

[vapid willow]

My players moving with delay is a skill issue?

[waxen sand]

It’s not a get out of jail free, it’s a 50/50 educated guess and a risk

[fresh jungle]

I use directional runs alot, makes a big difference.

[waxen sand]

It’s not fail proof

[fresh drift]

you mean compared to ea fc 24 and 25? not that hard

[fresh jungle]

Ping?

[fresh drift]

yea I'm always using it too

but I think player locking is even better cause your players react much faster

[fresh jungle]

I only use playerlocks to distract

[vapid willow]

Even when you are playing with good ms players are not moving as good as it should

[fresh jungle]

People always have tunnel vision

[waxen sand]

Another gimmick I hate. Reason why I hate that and player lock is cause they’re only in the game cause EA cannot get attacking AI to be good and balanced so they palm it off on the player

[fresh drift]

idk if it's because my players don't have quick step but I feel like this year my players take ages to react to directional runs

[fresh jungle]

Quick step doesn’t work

Only rapid works

[fresh drift]

quick step works off the ball

rapid works while dribbling

[waxen sand]

Quick step is better for defenders at least it is on clubs

[fresh jungle]

But Frimpong with quick step+ is slower than llorente

[fresh drift]

quick step affects your player anytime he's running

wait

that's it

[waxen sand]

That’s archetype based though not playstyle

[fresh drift]

directional runs dont feel that good because quick step is awful this year

[ruby sonnet]

I feel like the most recent patch kind of ruined quick step a bit

[fresh jungle]

🤯

[brave cobalt]

i just can say, that 7500 votes think GK movement is a 💩 . Maybe its because it is. i understand that you think its a skillgap mechanic but... in past fifas wasn't there, and past fifas had a better skllgap in my opinion

[ruby sonnet]

I still think it’s decent but sometimes it’s genuinely useless

[fresh drift]

i don't mind it actually, sometimes I want my players to move in rather unusual directions

[ruby sonnet]

I can’t just explode and sprint with nuno mendes, which just defeats the purpose of quick step

[lethal fog]

Y’a quelqu’un de français ici ?

[fresh jungle]

non

[waxen sand]

Bro I’ve tried to type out a reply 4 times and keeps getting blocked

And no reason why

[lethal fog]

Mdrrr

[fresh jungle]

Mine too

[fresh drift]

i wrote exactly in caps and had it removed lol

[fresh jungle]

Not a single bad word in my reply lmao

[fresh drift]

rob after his opponent moves his keeper

[brave cobalt]

xd

[waxen sand]

I also chose to get rid of it

As it helps me out

As someone who doesn’t use it

But I also think it’s quite easy to beat if you’re a good player

That’s it

That’s all I wanted to say

7 attempts

[fresh drift]

might be cause most of the community isn't exactly very good at the game

[brave cobalt]

sad for you bcs seems like EA will remove it

[waxen sand]

Not sad for me at all did you even read what I said

[fresh jungle]

People who want to see a change are more likely to reply to a poll, that’s why a poll isn’t very reliable for a big community.

[waxen sand]

Bro it’s legit not letting me say v

O

T

[fresh drift]

it's funny because GK movement actually gives a chance for lower division players to beat people above them

[fresh jungle]

Vo t e

[waxen sand]

Yeah wtf

[fresh jungle]

Nef that was also blocking my reply lmao

[waxen sand]

Yeah but they ain’t smart enough to realise that

[fresh jungle]

What’s wrong with vo te

[waxen sand]

So many times

[vapid willow]

Handicap already does

[fresh drift]

how dare you say v*te

[waxen sand]

It’s not sad for me cause I just said I also chose to get rid of it

I just don’t think it’s hard to beat

[brave cobalt]

and you think that a feature that help noobs to beat a better player just moving the keeper its skillgap

so KEKW

[fresh jungle]

No GK Movement means more 8-8 results, can’t wait.

[waxen sand]

I can’t lie, you’re defo not an elite player cause everything you’ve said screams bad at the game

[fresh drift]

yes GK movement is a skillgap in itself

[waxen sand]

Just being honest

[brave cobalt]

but they can balance the game also

they have to

[waxen sand]

If you think that then you’re deluded

[brave cobalt]

if they remove it

[fresh drift]

yea and you expect them to do that mid game

[brave cobalt]

they are making patches almost every week

almost every day the game feels different

[potent ocean]

hey somebody willing to help me with some mechanics in the game? im pretty new,if u have some free time please help

[waxen sand]

In fact you’re defo not an elite player, cause every elite player knows how to beat GK movement

[fresh drift]

I don't think you understand the impact of removing GK movement

[vapid willow]

With all players abusing AI defending I don't think you can score that much

[waxen sand]

Depends what it is

[fresh drift]

literally every shooting mechanic would have to be changed for it to be balanced

[waxen sand]

Low driven patch, inside the box shooting patch, finesse patch

[brave cobalt]

i told you i know how to beat it but i don't like that and i don't consider its a good mechanic, i just don't like it

[wary nymph]

low drivens will get removed completely if they take out gk movement

[fresh drift]

even precision shooting

[spark leaf]

gk movement is a bailout mechanic

[waxen sand]

Just such a weird hill to die on if you’re a good player

[fresh drift]

like precision shooting cannot exist in a world without GK movement

[spark leaf]

only people who can't play defense think gk movement is skill

[brave cobalt]

bro but why, it never has been in the game in the past years, why if i don't like it im "bad"

[potent ocean]

well to be honest im pretty bad at the game when playing against somebody else in Rivals,i cant really control the ball,sometimes i feel they have additional perks that i dont,and i know they have but i dont know how to change it for myself,i cant defend very well,the formations and chemistry are not on top and i cant really understand the game pretty well,if u have extra 10 minutes to explain me it would be nice of you

[waxen sand]

I vot*d to get rid of GK movement purely cause I don’t use it so it benefits me if other people can’t

[spark leaf]

on 100-200ms delay gk movement is a guessing game not a skill mechanic

[waxen sand]

But it’s so not a make or break game mechanic

Only bad players can’t beat it

[fresh drift]

balancing a game around bad connection is a terrible idea

[spark leaf]

that's the base delay

[waxen sand]

It’s been in for so long now

[vapid willow]

even with good ms is a guessing game

[brave cobalt]

and i never likted it but this year even less

[spark leaf]

someone on reddit did a deep dive on input lag

[waxen sand]

Holy that’s a lot of help

[spark leaf]

you have 150ms of delay on 25ms ping

[potent ocean]

i mean just the basics then lol

[spark leaf]

so ~125ms of delay is baked in

this was on PC which has less delay than console btw

[waxen sand]

It’s gonna sound rough but playing and practice, and YouTube vids

[potent ocean]

i dont really know what im doing im just playing some Foundations to get rewards and players but dont know really much about skill of the game lol

[vapid willow]

I love how ea lies to everyone of us constantly

[potent ocean]

fairs thats what i would tell to somebody else if i was a pro lol

[spark leaf]

oh ofc you can't put links in here

[waxen sand]

I ain’t a pro lol nowhere near

[wary nymph]

if u want to win games and make ur brain cells drop below 0 just play park the bus you’ll win enough games just like that

[spark leaf]

can't be having people link proof can we

[potent ocean]

tbh dont want to win games just want to know to play the game atleast lol

[fresh drift]

learn GK movement so you don't end up like our friend rob over here

[brave cobalt]

just learn to move the goalkeeper bro 😂 😂

[spark leaf]

anyway search "150ms input delay measured on FC26 Online (25ms ping). Frame by frame measurement." on reddit and you'll find it

and also find why GK movement is fundamentally flawed in the process

[autumn vessel]

can you get demoted from div 6?

[waxen sand]

Balanced balanced probs best place to start. 4231(2) probs best beginner formation. Don’t pull defenders out of position, defend and press with DMs, trigger runs in behind, low driven shots

[wary nymph]

well that’s how everyone plays unfortunately and ea encourages it

[waxen sand]

To name a few

[spark leaf]

I move my GK every time, switching between far and near depending on situation, and it gets me a lot more saves than not moving

I still think GK movement is a toxic mechanic

[waxen sand]

A lot of tactics vids on YouTube, game settings and controller settings, defending and attacking tutorials etc. much easier than trying to explain here

[brave cobalt]

nef i know ur good by what ur saying, wich depht do u like the most right now

[spark leaf]

it doesn't feel good when I make a GK movement save, just cheesy

[fresh jungle]

You can and will at high level

[waxen sand]

Don’t get me started

[native dust]

This game is so awful

It’s so clunky it stinks

[wary nymph]

best to keep it around 55-60 rn

[waxen sand]

I hate depth since FC started

[brave cobalt]

i did 11 wins with 70

[fresh jungle]

70 depth

[fresh drift]

changed from 70 to 50 and improved from 13-2 to 15-0

[wary nymph]

i got 13 with 71 but now everyone suddenly learned how to drop back and counter hard so i have to switch down

[brave cobalt]

lol

[waxen sand]

I’ve left tried them all and hate them all. 50, 70, 95 it doesn’t matter. They’re all too deep when you want to press and too high when you don’t wanna be countered. 100 depth doesn’t stop CBs dropping into the 6 yard box when their team gets high in possession

I hate them all

[brave cobalt]

me too

[wary nymph]

facts they barely feel different

[potent ocean]

thanks for everything dude appreciate it 🙌

[fresh jungle]

Offside traps to reset low backline

[waxen sand]

All good. GL lad

[waxen sand]

Having to spam it all game even on 95 depth like what’s the point

50 depth your team drops off so fast I hate it. Just invites passes into your own box

[fresh jungle]

Yup i know, but it’s the only way to push ur defense forward.

[brave cobalt]

but with 50 isn't ur whole defens in the box close to the GK, isn't that hard to defense in the box?

[fresh drift]

y'all think it's a good idea to switch from a xbox controller to a PS one? player locking and dpad options feel awkward to me and I feel like it has to do with the controller layout

[wary nymph]

controller is all preference

i see ppl using 360 controllers on pc

[fresh jungle]

Isn’t there a modded controller where u can make playerlocks a single button

[fresh drift]

right stick switching helps

[fresh drift]

WHERE

[waxen sand]

It also depends who you’re playing and how they play. 50 can be great against people running 4213 just looking for counters. 70+ is better against people you can press

[brave cobalt]

but anyways u give free space in the box

[fresh drift]

I wish I could player lock by double tapping R3

[brave cobalt]

what are u palying by now

[fresh drift]

second man press (R1) also helps close down that space

[waxen sand]

I like to be aggressive in defence which this year isn’t a good thing. But people have to actually get near the box to score so I like to play a higher line, cause I find balanced they drop too fast and creates gaps and invites pressure. But this year if you play a higher line and don’t player switch really well you get slammed by Y balls

[waxen sand]

I keep changing it but most success I have it 70

[brave cobalt]

completely agree

[waxen sand]

But like I said it also depends on who you’re playing and how they play. 95 can be really good against one person and terrible the next

[brave cobalt]

ye i know

[waxen sand]

So I just run 70, spam offside traps and use Team Press on set pieces

[brave cobalt]

nice

[waxen sand]

Team press on kick offs and set pieces like corners is a must to get them to react quicker and be more aggressive

[brave cobalt]

and wich formation do u like the most

[echo dawn]

4-2-2-2 plays nice for me

[fresh jungle]

Maybe get a controller with back buttons

I got the dualsense edge and use my left back button for offside traps

[waxen sand]

Again tried loads, they can all be good one day and terrible the next. But the one I fall back on the most when I’m struggling is 4231(2)

Just feels balanced

[fresh jungle]

Easier than dpad up

[fresh drift]

yea can't press dpad buttons to save my life so that might help

[brave cobalt]

same for me, im watching people trying this 4222, maybe bcs there are not wingers with their stupid movement

[fresh jungle]

Dualsense edge is 240$ tho

But replaceable joysticks for 20$ instead of paying 70$ everytime u get severe stickdrift

[waxen sand]

I think the issue with the roles and tactics etc is that there is no 1 tactic fits all unless you’re a top 5% player. Each opponents formation and tactics means yours will have different levels of success from game to game. People forget that and expect to plug and play and it doesn’t work that well anymore. So in that sense it is more like FM

[fresh drift]

might find a black friday deal or something

[fresh jungle]

451 is by far the best formation this ea fc, works well offensively and defensively.

[waxen sand]

I used to use that formation in 21/22 when I was at my best level on the old tactic system. I personally don’t like it and the narrow 4231 cause the roles aren’t very good

[fresh jungle]

But it’s very manual (alot of L1 triggering) cuz it’s pretty static.

[brave cobalt]

don't u like the shadow striker cams instead the IFw

[waxen sand]

Was alright for me for some games, other games it felt too static

[fresh jungle]

Yh it requires more triggering and player locks, but having 3 cm’s helps massively.

[fresh drift]

4321 still my fav attacking formation in the game, too bad they took out custom tactics so now it sucks defensively

[waxen sand]

Like I constantly keep switching between balanced and counter cause for me it’s the same issue as the depth. Balanced is fine until you want some AI movement and you get none. Counter you get movement but if you take too long you have no passing options

Like there’s no true balanced style anymore I don’t think

[brave cobalt]

bro i just think the same

[waxen sand]

I can see how they’re really strong defensively cause you win the numbers game in midfield

[brave cobalt]

i prefer old tactics

[spiral horizon]

im running balanced rn but when the game feels like im getting no option i switch to short passing

[fresh drift]

also can you set player locks to back buttons in the dualsense edge? @fresh jungle

[fresh jungle]

Yh but not to a single button

[waxen sand]

Some people have bashed me with short passing but when I use it, I can’t get any rythym or patterns despite spamming L1

[fresh jungle]

I don’t like using them for playerlocks with the way i hold my controller

[fresh drift]

i feel like such a nerd asking this question but is that what the pros use 😭

[fresh jungle]

Nah

You can fully remap all controls in a game with the dualsense edge controller tho @fresh drift

[whole pawn]

Why are they like this fr?

[fresh jungle]

I could change L3 to L1 if i want to

[waxen sand]

I just hate how I have to be locked in to win games nowadays. I miss when not every mode was essentially ranked

[brave cobalt]

but what do you think guys about this patch and the gameplay, i just hate it

[waxen sand]

I know the events aren’t so much, but my teams never eligible and I cba constantly making teams

[alpine finch]

brainless 9 year olds

[fresh drift]

is it like an xbox accessories app

[waxen sand]

I think EA should’ve stuck to their guns and made only minimal changes on release

[fresh jungle]

It’s within PlayStation’s software, but it saves to your controller.

Bet u could change it on pc aswell.

[brave cobalt]

yep

this game feels like a beta

[spiral horizon]

short passing suits my playstyle so well

[vapid willow]

It's disgusting, I have to be lock in to win in SQUAD BATTLES AI in the new patch is really boring

[fresh drift]

I hate career mode players i'm ngl

just tweak the sliders omg

[brave cobalt]

angelkiski is my boyfriend by the way

🏳️‍🌈 👬

[waxen sand]

I’ve got a scuf so in theory I could make better use of player locks. I just don’t like using gimmicks like that and creative runs cause I feel the game AI should be better than it is and mechanics like player locks are EAs way of sidestepping actually having to make the AI better

[brave cobalt]

and also @spiral rapids

[vapid willow]

I used to enjoy playing squad battles until this last patch

[wary nymph]

my lamine feels so bad cus he just stands in place and when i send on a run he doesnt go into space lmao

[waxen sand]

Yeah fairs. Less so for me I’m more a counter player now but have been since I had such joy that way in 21/22

[wary nymph]

nico williams so better at rm than lamine

[fresh jungle]

I kinda like the difficulty of doing good player locks tho, makes it more challenging and rewarding.

The attacking AI itself is too dumb.

[fresh drift]

i mean the game is what it is and you can't change it

might aswell get used to it

[waxen sand]

I know, I just choose not to use certain mechanics. I know I’d be better if I did, I just cba lol I’m too old

[brave cobalt]

the most frustrating thing for me bro, i love to play with wingers and make counter attacks and this year u have to spam l1

and the roles...

inside forwards are in the box all the team grouped in the box, wingers doesn't make runs.. i hate it

[waxen sand]

I think the power curves catching up to lamine now as well

[brave cobalt]

last year inside forward was top

[waxen sand]

Yeah the AI being bad is what tilts me towards using counter build up style and just move it quickly

But counter falls apart against people who play a lower depth

[wary nymph]

i just dont know who to get at rm or lm for like 370k

[waxen sand]

I enjoyed that Olise card a lot

I like Raphinha a lot too

[fresh drift]

the lack of left footed LM's with gamechanger is what made me switch from 4141 to 4321

crazy how raphinha doesnt have it

[vapid willow]

It's not a secret that your AI difficulty is changed based on the current score at the match

[soft sandal]

reduce the speed of the game you have become sick at EA

[brave cobalt]

handicap wins

[waxen sand]

Soz I don’t buy into conspiracies

[fluid saddle]

i put gamechanger on nwaneri and play him lcm

[vapid willow]

It has been proved

[waxen sand]

I’ve not seen anything personally so I wouldn’t know. I just know that bad players always call scripted

[fresh drift]

smart, I used mines on rating reload Kebbal and he's a beast for me at LCAM

with shadow striker plus plus aswell

[fresh jungle]

I’m using my gamechanger on a 4’11 (1.51m) girl lol

[dusty crescent]

all of that because of Ai defending

[vapid willow]

I think it was on fc 24 in some matches a pop up appeared saying that their AI difficulty was changed, even was happening on fc 25 in kick off

[fresh drift]

this happened to me this year, thing is I was playing against a literal cheater lol

[waxen sand]

Oh if it’s not a UT thing then I don’t care

[wary nymph]

seeing someone use greenwood evo makes me play so much better i havent lost yet to someone using him

[waxen sand]

Or if it’s a cheater thing then nothing I can do about it

[vapid willow]

Some people experienced it on UT, they fixed but that still happens on kick off so the mechanic is still there

[fresh drift]

yea literally nothing can be done about it

ea doesn't care about pc players

[fresh jungle]

I got the same with vini

[fresh drift]

the same cheats have been in the game for ages and ea can't be bothered to get rid of them

[waxen sand]

Mate I played ranked BO6 all year 🤣

[wary nymph]

vini spreads my legs apart each time

[fresh drift]

never played it but I imagine it wasn't fun

[fresh jungle]

My hate for vini is so big that it brings out the worst in me

[wary nymph]

ive played more scream vini than regular gold version somehow

[wary nymph]

i got a vini brazil shirt lmao

[waxen sand]

S1 ranked was 95% cheaters at the higher levels. I’d say 3/4s of the T250 leaderboard were cheaters

[fresh jungle]

nah nah nah

not okay

[vapid willow]

No one is going to discuss about the "slower curve"?

[waxen sand]

Like I said I don’t care for conspiracies

[fresh drift]

it's slower idk what u mean

you mean the power curve right

[waxen sand]

Currently eating 85% dark chocolate

[vapid willow]

I don't think so, at level 40 in season pass you get a +85x3, but last week you could get a better pack just playing 13 squad battles, that makes no sense

[waxen sand]

Not everything is a conspiracy

[fresh drift]

i mean that's pretty much the only crazy pack we've had

[fresh jungle]

Uhm no

[fresh drift]

last year I had evos with like 94 dribbling by this stage of the game

[fresh jungle]

Scream promo now is better than last years Trailblazer promo.

Both released at the same time.

[fresh drift]

because of the 99 stats?

[vapid willow]

If you played benzema gauntlet you could get like 4 +83x10 for free

[fresh drift]

most scream players dont even have a ps plus

[fresh jungle]

Nah just the stats in general aswel

[fresh drift]

as I said ealier stats are kind of irrelevant when playstyles exist

[turbid skiff]

whats up guys im new here looking for new club mates to join me and my guys if anyone's interested lmk

[fresh jungle]

Well i just checked, it’s equal.