#Dawncrest update doubled the cost to fuse portraits

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wicked ivy
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It used to be 25s, 50s, 1g, 2g to fuse (white insignia) green, blue, and purple (insignia and portrait)

Now it reverted to the old values from many months ago

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wicked ivy
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Insignia fusion cost were also doubled

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late lake
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Pretty sure windstride costs were increased rather than decreased as well, even though the patch notes say they were reduced by 50%.

wicked ivy
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holy this can't be right

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late lake
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I'm like 99% sure windstride cost was increased everywhere. Bamboo village included. I noticed it first when going from pig/bbr to mushin and it was more than like 1s. From there it seemed higher going pretty much anywhere as I paid it more attention.

open cave
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Hello, I will ask the team regarding this, thank you for letting us know.

woeful condor
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Could it be x/(1/2) was used instead of x/2, where x was the initial value? Doubling values instead of halving them?

wicked ivy
late lake
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It's possible I am mistaken about where I first noticed it as I did not immediately come here to say anything. However, I am not the only one who I have seen that has noticed it. I'm 76 too so no discounts.

In any case, the patch notes say, verbatim, "Cost of Windstride has been reduced by 50%". This is definitely not the case, which we can even see in your bamboo village pic.

frail leaf
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soo portraits and insigna reduction was an event
just like double SMP drops there was no neo news about it
last patch was lacking in info quality
not a bug

late lake
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green portrait and insignia reduction in price happened in later moonwater. you are thinking of the voucher things that gave you free insignia fuses

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iirc it was the same patch, or one patch before, them making card sets have 20 slots instead of 10

frail leaf
late lake
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You can find the notice of portrait/insignia reduction in that patch notes link, for green portraits and green/white insignias, same patch as 20 cost card sets. It does only specify viridian to mw portraits which was the case, but now they have gone up to the same price as sf fuses. If it was an event, it wasn't listed as one, and it lasted like 4 patches. Ours didn't include blues. I distinctly remember hoarding green cards because I knew it was coming, and not as an event, but as a permanent change.

So it either IS a bug, or an undocumented change which has nothing to do with that KR event. I'm not going to dig through months of KR patch notes from mid last year to find where they got the change, but it was a permanent change for them too unless they backtracked it which I doubt. I would guess that event from November halved the already reduced price for the duration on greens, but I wouldn't know because I am pretty sure we did not get that event. One of many small events we didn't get. It's just a bit annoying due to the nickle and diming during this patch where gold is very valuable because of the boxes. I can just not fuse, but I can't not windstride.

frail leaf
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what you linked was on 9/4
our last patch was on 12/16

late lake
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yes? and on 9/4 they released sf, which is where we got the 20 cost card sets and they reduced the prices of green fuses, which remained reduced until the patch we got this week because they were not an event

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I dunno about you, but none of those other changes listed in that screenshot from the 9-4 patch notes sound like events to me.

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frail leaf
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the reduction that you likned applied to green cards and green/grey insigna
cards form 1g->50s insigna from 1g/50s->50s/25s
this is base

last week for portrait fuse was blue:1g green:25s
it went back up to 2g and 50s
and insigna was blue:1g green:25s grey:12.5s
it went back up to 2g, 50s and 25s

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there was a reduction for the past 5 weeks that no longer applies it went back to base
and do not hit me with i wont read your sources i linked you the exact patch the event occured

late lake
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dude we didn't get that event, and I DID look at your kr notes, that's how I know we didn't get that event. I'm not gonna argue with you because your proof is literally just "trust me bro, we got this event even though they didn't even announce it and no one noticed at all". link me where WE got that event, and I will read it. your KR patch notes mean NOTHING for events because they get tons of small events we never get, which people have been complaining about since basically launch. either way, I'm done arguing with you since your entire argument is "look at these kr patch notes". never mind that kr gets patch notes every week to our every 5 weeks, which should tell you right there that they get stuff we don't. have a great night .

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also, last thing I am gonna say, why do you WANT to pay more for this stuff? like you made the effort to come to this bug report section for basically no reason, where the QC employee has already said they will look into it, and started making an argument that will make conditions WORSE for players. if it ends up that I am wrong, fine, but they looked into it and probably asked the devs, not reference the patch notes for an event we didn't get from months after the reduction we already had of a different version of the game which proves absolutely nothing. you act like I am trying to trick them into something, when they have the tools to just check and see.

frail leaf
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12/16 global patch note said we were getting class buff wdym refer to global patch note
there also wasn't any mension of msp boss and mushroom geting double loot and we got the event now back to normal

yes they dont announce it because they dont know what is in the patch and what they announce is full of errors too that's why i came here for to tell it's not a bug since they cant do it themselfs, it was the point of my first message

there is no grande conspiracy i am seting things straight and keeping expectation low
i come to bug report to see if i should be carefull of things or to have a laught on a random funny bug that might be occuring i 'm not some sort of NCIA agent that is deploid to make you pay one more gold for your card fuse
any way i indeed had a great laught but not on a bug this time

sonic yew
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There are 2 possible explanations.

  1. it is intended and as usual ncosft doesn't think that changes are important to be announced to the players. NCsoft always had a problem with communicating and they still fail hard on the communication part. I just say missing patch infos, wrong patch infos, announcements a few days after events, patches and go are already live, not answering on questions, bug reports, just using the silent protocol and minimize every communication to the community.

  2. It is again a bug like last year when they increased port and fusion costs after they reduced it before. if so you will need to wait. Maybe korea feels like fixing it or maybe they don't. the western audience doesn't have a high priority for ncsoft and the korean devs have probably their hands full with aion 2 stuff. So just hope that they adjust it at some point in the future before the game gets shutdown. Maybe with the next big patch^^

Oh and btw, don't expect to hear back from the ncsoft stuff if that was intendend or a bug and if it get fixed or not. It is not ncsofts style to clear up things xD

wicked ivy
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I know this thread got a little jumbled, but I really hope that we will get a response on this.
windstride costs went up instead of down in many situations,
There's no way I should be paying 40 silver to move one screen to the right. Pic shown on a low level character

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Or 18 silver to change channels

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frail leaf
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make TP and change ch free with BP again !

wicked ivy
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Something is clearly wrong here
here is another screenshot, of me trying to move the same character from the same place to the same destination

but instead of 39.5223.71 it's 7.42 5.19

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Why is one FIVE TIMES higher than the other? And what did I do to get the correct value to appear?
It's all very confusing to me,

wicked ivy
harsh sierra
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It's actually insane how much we are actually spending getting to dungeons now vs the quest reward....

ocean axle
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FIX IT AND REDUCE COTST BACK ASAP PLS!

forest stone
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NO IVE WASTED SO MUCH GOLD ALREADY I LIKE IT

serene bear
thick wind
dire fiber
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Lunar entrance cheapest to teleportiert to places

deep robin
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@thick wind update? its been a whole month. this issue can be fixed easy in weekly maint but not even on patch we get a fix. and if there wont be any fix you could at least tell us.. i am waiting with my fuses because i hope it gets fixed soon..

ocean axle
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I assume I lost hunderds of gold because I need to hold up with others... because of the double cost again.

ocean axle
wicked ivy
gaunt pilot
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no news ? @thick wind

ember tundra
serene bear
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I expect a lot of free tap tickets

deep robin
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🤡

heady sphinx
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I expect a lot of free tapping

ember tundra
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@hard pendant last year we got an update to reduce fusing costs, with this update in january the price has been doubled again Aqua_cry rownen was planning a compensation but we haven't heard back from that yet

forest stone
heady sphinx
serene bear
harsh sierra
latent sentinel
forest stone
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imagine its still bugged after patch

kind remnant
serene bear
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Still bugged

hard pendant
mild apex
languid sparrow
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any chance fuse costs are back to normal in April 28 patch?

deep robin
serene bear
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Ib4: this was intentional

languid sparrow
hard pendant
frail flicker
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Good luck with that. NCA cant do anything about it and NC KR stopped fixing bugs 3 months ago

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The game is infested with bugs but they can not be bothered to fix anything.

languid sparrow
sonic yew
latent sentinel
languid sparrow
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Prayge

frail leaf
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🤡

dire fiber
deep robin
latent sentinel
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@thick wind where gold ?:D

deep robin
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compensation is gonna be huge :v

serene bear
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Nah they prolly got told by Kr its intentional

serene bear
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@hard pendant Have you ever got an update from Rownen or NcKR about this?

frail leaf
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scroll up i'm the info
they are just too p--y to admit they made a mistake and tell you, there wont be compensation/changes

deep robin
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ye. unfortunatly its harder for NC to apologize for their misstake than foking over and lying to the community for months 🤡

serene bear
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Its not really a lie if they are omitting to give us the info at all, no?

hard pendant
# serene bear <@1483593605439553659> Have you ever got an update from Rownen or NcKR about thi...

well without revealing too much about whats in store 2 things:

  1. for zero cost on teleportation and channel change, it was always meant for this perk to be tied to events but I've done my best to push for these features to become part of the paid battlepass or just the base experience, hoping for a good change on that sometime in the future!
  2. for the fusing costs there hasn't been anything I can share with everyone officially but it will probably the case that something will shake up the upgrading system that will make the overall cost lower which would then answer the question why there wasn't a fusing cost discount
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TBD of course but i'm hoping we will see that sooner than later as wel

wicked ivy
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I believe starboy was referring to this
not future updates, but the compensation that was already planned but got swept under a rug

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We weren't directly asking for a zero cost channel change here, there was an actual bug in the game where our windstride costs were negatively affected as I showed here
This bug has since been patched, but we never got compensation for all of the extra money that we had to spend every single day of that patch and the patch after to deal with these bugged teleport costs

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Spending an extra 2 gold per day just on windstrides, back when gold cost between 1000-2000 gems per 100 Certificate? That was a lot of our materials flushed down the drain due to this BUG.

serene bear
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Yes @hard pendant I was indeed talking about the compensation specifically. Changes to the system are a different thing I think. Is it correct to assume no more compensation is planned?

sonic yew
# wicked ivy We weren't directly asking for a zero cost channel change here, there was an act...

That bug also occured last year, first they decreased the costs and then largely increased them with an update. The 1-2 devs that work on bns probably don't have enough time to fix for them "small problems". Just look at the other bugs that are still ingame for months now or that get reintroduced every new and bigger update xD.

And regarding compensation, maybe ncsoft hopes that you guys simply forget it, while they try their best to ignore this topic. Ignoring stuff is one of ncsofts honed talents over the last decades^^

hard pendant
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mmmmmmm i see i understand now!