Unkillable dungeon bosses

[heavy sigil]

With the Moonwater 2 patch, new dungeons came with bosses that are so hard that we cannot kill them, only people with purple books can easily cut them, so we have become unable to play the game, I don't know if the purpose of ncsoft is to make money temporarily because if it continues like this, players will leave the game, close to 10 people in my own circle left the game.

[real belfry]

its dead no one can run the new content (only like top 5 of each class can run the new dungeons). They managed to kill the game on the third patch.

[fiery tiger]

Cold storage is high-end lvl 50 content while BSH bosses are level 55 mid content. So rather than trying to beat them with your current level you better to focus on level up.

[real belfry]

This is the biggest copium response. Till you reach lvl 55 the next patch is around. Will you start farming soulshields then? Not to mention that cold storage is the most mid dungeon there is, not gonna farm cold storage for a month, that drops the same loot as bug raids and that i already have 10k clears on. They couldve added at least some mechanics to it.

[fiery tiger]

JP/TW getting our update next week when they got release whole month later. It's not a copium, it's a reality - devs trying to speed up patch release to match with KR and we're on the short stick end. Basically mid-summer we'll be on same patch as KR, the same as TW/JP.

[real belfry]

you do realize i dont care how they internally juggle this around i want a useable product

[fiery tiger]

Then you better give profit enough to get another dev team just for this localization.

It's not like complaining will give anyone money and having one team that just locks-unlocks content for different localizations is way too cheaper than redo all the stuff from scratch. It's clearable in current patch content? Yes. And that's all what matters.

[real belfry]

dev team? all they need is to fix the enrage timer. Its intentional engineered to gear wall

[fiery tiger]

it's literally the same everywhere.

(and we didn't get the labyrinth change where blue dungeons got enrage timer too, lol)

[heavy sigil]

@fiery tiger I'm just saying why the dungeons are so hard, my own opinion is that NCsoft's goal is to force players to invest money in the game.because only whales are comfortable in these dungeons

[fading lily]

Quick cashgrab before Tencent takeover is my theory.
But even at that they suck, else they'd just add outfits in F10 and we can all swipe for fashion...
Og Bns I had over 150 cashshop outfits, In neo there just aren't any available 🙈

[heavy sigil]

ncsoft has never been a player-friendly company, which caused a decrease in players on the live server, then they used people's old bns nostalgia to open neo and post excessive p2w nonsense.

To give a few examples:

1. Why does the book system make the player who invests money stronger than me, forcing me to invest money in the game, there will be those who write that divine gems will be earned in the game now, there are no drops in dungeons, only green books 😄
2. The person who buys the book becomes stronger than me in the pvp area and beats me, so they get cold feet from the game
3. Whales do not accept anyone with low gears into their groups, low gears cannot turn dungeons
4. I'm not sure about this, but I think there is an imbalance between the characters
5. Another Korean company, Pearlabbys, changed the exchange rate difference in the blackdesert online Turkey mena server in 2024, despite opening in 2018, this is valuing the player, crushing the player for money ends the game

In short, if Ncsoft continues with this idea, no player will play their games 😄

[fading lily]

Wich is why they have MASSIVE net loss on their charts for the last 5 years.
It won't be long untill NCsoft shuts down and sells their stuff to somebody (Tencent probally, they alrrdy run Neo in CN).

[heavy sigil]

It would be better if Amazon took over the European region 😄

There is a gold problem that I forgot to add to the previous options, yes p2w 😄 The amount of gold from quests is very low, the purple book rarely drops from dungeons, guess who gets that purple book, of course whales 😄 When it comes to item upgrades, it requires a lot of gold and there is a chance of losing, it's a real whale game 😄

[fading lily]

Please no.
Lost Ark is so p2w my country banned it.
New world is atrocious as hell to play.
Every game amazon touches is ruined by default.

[heavy sigil]

Well, let it not be Amazon but a better company 😄

[fading lily]

If you look at what Neo CN (Run by Tencent) has I can't help but be jeallous...
4 Events going on with materials, insignias and outfits.
Battle pass with purple selectors.
Salvaging weapons and soulshields gives you Elements, not Crystal powder...

[heavy sigil]

Yes I think these asians don't like europeans.I guess they just love Europeans' money 😄

[austere belfry]

Off-topic:
I wrote it in different places already as well how I can't wrap my head around this company's business logic. The large and successful online games all make the formula for player retention and success clear. Give ppl something that motivates them. Reward their effort. Create content that is enjoyable. That's kind of the base requirement. Meanwhile every system BNS introduces just aims to do the opposite of motivating any player whose bank account does have a realistic limit. Instead there is a lot of needless potential for frustration.

They got this game with a style and combat system that could 100% make it a very successful if niche-y mmo. But no, they are trying to enforce whatever measure they can to make the experience frustrating. You have to call it a strategic decision at this point. You can't chalk it up to error or mistakes. They have a solid foundation and are doing whatever they can to make the least of it.

What amazes me most is how they create the precedent that is the OG BNS Live that has frustrated so many into quitting (myself included) and then go "I'll do it again" without learning a few lessons from that failure.

[granite geode]

have to mention that in CN neo，theres a third currency called red gems or something，you get them by selling stuff in f5 but can only use them to open some rng boxes. so basically if you want to buy battle pass and buy gears from f5，you have to use your real money to get divine gems

and i have to say f2p can definitely clear cold storage，and i have to mention most blue books are 300-500 gems，it is so easy to get all blue books，so i really don't agree with your point. Because there is no way you can clear end_patch content week 1 with 0 investment. And for those complaining about failing clear CS，you definitely did not do your dailies everyday or follow a correct f2p way to play the game，also people should understand their classes and learn rotations. However，I do agree it is horrible that they change the game into dps check everything and remove every mech. And book stacking system is just back，people not taking cc or team support skills but only damage，not healthy at all

[real belfry]

We are complaining that we got sold a car with 2 wheels and you are saying its fine the chinese got one with one wheel. Doesnt rly change our situation.

I want dungeons with mechanics and reasonable hp/ enrage timers.

[granite geode]

this one was to the guy whos jealous to CN Neo which is a really bad server. I didn't say the current content is healthy and I don't like it either as a player who can clear everything. But I'm just saying some people do not know how to do rotations properly but only complain about no purple books. Like you don't need purple books to clear the content, blue books totally works and you just need to level up. I'm sure most people can do cold storage and maybe next week people can do training base. Of course you cannot clear end-patch content as f2p on day 1. Gear price dropping quick btw, it's only a week and I just bought all 3 purples with double crit and 3 skills at 3.5k-4k. and rest of them are like around 1k, have some patience.

see this thing is 800 NA

[south pewter]

Personally i have no issues with gear being buyable and stuff but SKILLS... That's a new low, even for ncsoft.

[heavy sigil]

In my country it costs half of people's salary to buy a useful purple book, so how can people afford to buy it?and I was playing lightning bd, so the purple book is a must so I chose not to play the game I don't play it anymore 😄

[real belfry]

If the enrage timer was just a minute longer half of the quitters wouldve stayed in the game