Warlock

[naive badge]

you mean yaplord riv

[whole breach]

wait who is this

[naive badge]

who is who

[whole breach]

u

oh iz

[naive badge]

but only played arena there

have you decided yet on your spec 😏

[whole breach]

i want shadow

but my stomach hurts rerolling

[naive badge]

1/3 chance

if you miss go drunk again

👀

[whole breach]

most sober person ever blames alchol

[naive badge]

u didnt enjoy ice i suppose

[whole breach]

3years with shadow

tt-et with ice

quit afterwards

[naive badge]

ive played till vt

full on shadow

[whole breach]

ice is better but shadow lets u do pvp & nicer time on msp

[naive badge]

for pvp you only need the rmb and pvp helix

[shy spoke]

we have more than 1 bombard for ice which one should i get blue tier?

[naive badge]

no need for reroll whole spec

what i like is that wl has gotten back its untabable double aircombo

[whole breach]

yeh

the blink q e dash was nice ngl

and graveyard was nice too

[whole breach]

ice just feels weird with cast time

[naive badge]

dont know what that is

[whole breach]

aoe on floor that stunned ppl and did dmg

u spammed that with td

[naive badge]

oh thats after my time in guess

[whole breach]

ye with awk patch

[naive badge]

ic

[whole breach]

was not worth the air combo

lose

hmm do i do it

33,33%

chance to hit

[shy spoke]

ty

[naive badge]

i dont know about ur situation

but i would if u really enjoy shadow more

and do not care about dps for another 2 months

[whole breach]

isnt ice stronger in kr too

[naive badge]

since you will be back on your sum dps wise

[whole breach]

i hate the none mobility spec off ice

[rich inlet]

Shadow pretty immobile too, temporal and needing to hard cast v once in a while

[naive badge]

yeah it was but im wondering if it is still now

legy dc looks very strong too

[whole breach]

20% crit rate

sounds busted

[naive badge]

legy helix lets u hold down helix during leech

and no more focus issues with gm stacks

[whole breach]

gm stacks?

why would that fix focus

[naive badge]

added effect for wl and bm so far

and mb more classes idk about

here

[tribal python]

If you mean the changes on kr, FM has too

[whole breach]

oh

[tribal python]

I think Ive heard of kfm too, so probably all classes did

[naive badge]

think so too

[whole breach]

oh only on 4

[naive badge]

yes

i will have 3 legy helixes ready

out of 10i think

but nobody sells trash books anymore

[whole breach]

so the goal is 48 gms

[rich inlet]

48 gms lol

kill me

[whole breach]

so if ur full purple its gonna be rough

geus u drop the ap% on thrall buff

[rich inlet]

well even if you have leg, you still need 2 leg to make this work right?

cause first leg will give 0 GM

do you guys pause siphon to recast thrall

[ocean atlas]

Hi

[misty copper]

this is from the new kr update?

[ocean atlas]

If I play WL shadow, what is the good combo or macro I have to use?

[dire thicket]

First leg in kr now gives 12 gm

[rich inlet]

p2w XD alright, tyty

[dire thicket]

Yeah balance patch for whales

[rich inlet]

what i really want is just leech to have lower cd

feels real bad when u can't leech

class feels like half a class

[tawny raven]

is there a skilltree guide for warlock
?

[rich inlet]

yessir, check pins!

[lofty onyx]

WTS eu

[tawny raven]

thanks!

[elder spire]

can you get the other warlock outfits?

[ocean atlas]

Guys

For shadow

Is it good if I stack Dragon helix?

[tawny raven]

which build is easier.cheaper to build?

[rich inlet]

The most expensive parts of both specs are shared...leech mystic badge, purple sb, purple mantra

So uhh, pick your poison.

[dim nymph]

strongest wl build is ice right?

pure pve dps

[ocean atlas]

Strongest build is atm

[distant cedar]

WTB purple Soul Flare EU

[whole breach]

send help

[clever badger]

rip

[whole breach]

hit it

[whole breach]

costed me 40k ncoin with gold

[ocean atlas]

how 40k?

[whole breach]

10k per try

[ocean atlas]

I means how can u get legend though

[whole breach]

with another leg

[ocean atlas]

Ah so its more like u already have legend stuffs

I thought u go by purp stuffs

[rich inlet]

yea u can reroll legs now with 4 frags and 500g which is about 10k gems

a bit less than that on NA

[green dune]

wts EU

[white ibex]

heyyy guys if i play WL shadow, is there any macro i could use? just curious

[uneven rain]

4TF. 4T if you use Dimensional Volley: Spectral Orb since Rupture is not a necessity with that book

[upbeat fog]

is time distortion poopy or

[uneven rain]

yes

[upbeat fog]

F

[rich inlet]

It was kinda poopy even when it was party wide

U only used it if u had two wl

[novel scroll]

How tf are you 60 already? Unless you popped hella hm pots

[rich inlet]

He said he popped 30 msp hourglasses and split party solo pull

Get a whale friend 😄

[pale vine]

I'm starting the Warlock class and I'd like to know which build and which skill book I should choose (green/blue and purple) for leveling, and then for endgame. If you know any websites or videos, I'd appreciate it.

[uneven rain]

[pale vine]

ty

[paper light]

Bunny we can use macro with ice warlock?

I mean needing to do rupture, leech, v, 3, spam 4 and rmb and spam more f and more spam and lmb

[uneven rain]

yeah

4tf

[paper light]

Oh just 4tf?

[uneven rain]

yup

[paper light]

Icic

I will try it once i get some blue books >.<

Ty bunny

[rich inlet]

It's okay to put v in macro too

[uneven rain]

you'll rlly notice the power of macro with full purple

[rich inlet]

But it's likely to be slightly inefficient, ping depending

[paper light]

Couldnt get blue dc yet

[paper light]

Ye were kinda unlucky with the random purples

Got pvp dc

🥺

[uneven rain]

it's obv still good for blue but it's better at purple since you're spamming rupture a lot

[paper light]

Ye

I kinda just want blue rupture and blue dc rn

Cuz the cdr for leech

And rupture becomes 3 secs

Btw about sf

When u do it at the start to burst?

Or after mini sus is about to despawn?

[uneven rain]

sf?

[rich inlet]

Soul burn

[uneven rain]

bro

these newbies

why tf did they change it

it's f-ing sb

ncsoft im gonna

[rich inlet]

Lol

[uneven rain]

chuck a brick at your face

anyways

[rich inlet]

At least they didn't make ur main skill look like garbage

Why did they need to change perfection

[uneven rain]

you use it right after leech/during leech animation

[uneven rain]

bd

pee class

they also kinda did

dc looks like sh!t

[paper light]

Ye doing that but is worthy to wait till sus is about to despawn to use it?

[paper light]

Is missing all textures xD

[uneven rain]

sus? you mean thrall?

[paper light]

On my laptop it looks totally black xD

[uneven rain]

then no

[paper light]

Yup

[uneven rain]

no reason to wait until thrall is about to go away

[rich inlet]

Naw lining it up with core is way better

Than a bit more thrall auto attack and the aura

[uneven rain]

because you're not even gonna be using circle of wrath

cuz that book is trash

[paper light]

But i am using that

[rich inlet]

I use circle of wrath XD

[uneven rain]

compared to just stacking another dc or rmb

[paper light]

[rich inlet]

It is trash but not until u start stacking other purples

Likely worse than a blue stack too but idk

[uneven rain]

if they had sb work like current live where you don't sacrifice thrall

then yeah

it's great

[rich inlet]

I dunno why thrall even has downtime

[uneven rain]

cuz f you in particular

[rich inlet]

Prob a pvp thing

[uneven rain]

why tf

did they make Q stun a book

makes 0 sense

and on top of that

there is a grey and blue version

[rich inlet]

At least it's not fm where u are encouraged to bring nothing and just stack more 2

[uneven rain]

but stun is on blue

[rich inlet]

We at least have x !

[uneven rain]

grey is pointless

[rich inlet]

The entire book setup is just to milk whales

[uneven rain]

i wouldn't even mind it that much if you got all the qol and rotation shi you need at blue books

and getting higher than that just gives more dmg

double cast dc only at purple

bs

[rich inlet]

Yea, also Shadow can't do rotation without purple rmb and coil

And soul burn got the fighting spirit treatment 😦

[uneven rain]

i mean

i expected that

anyone who didn't was smoking copium

the issue with it is that

wl has nothing else to contribute to the party to compensate for their sh!tty dmg

[rich inlet]

I thought ice was pretty good. And shadow was like 10% behind

[uneven rain]

they are

but that's comparing the 2 wl specs

comparing with other classes

wl is trash dmg

[rich inlet]

Oh that's sad

Are we summoner tier lol

[uneven rain]

if we had above avg dmg

then it'd be fine

[uneven rain]

yes

maybe slightly above

[rich inlet]

Aw man and they have lots of utility

At least we bring bleed or something LOL

[uneven rain]

blue soul shackle but it's horrible application

same with imprison/mortal coil

[rich inlet]

If they put bleed on 4 that would be nice

[uneven rain]

idr which book bleed gets applies/how much

[rich inlet]

It's not much, 3 can only do 3 stacks total

[uneven rain]

kfm is another example of a class that doesn't have a lot of party utility with the removal of party buffs

[rich inlet]

And I think only at purple

[uneven rain]

but

they can tank pretty well and have 100% bleed uptime with blood strike

[rich inlet]

But they get blood strike and disgusting damage

[uneven rain]

and they have top dmg

so solo bb didn't affect them at all

same with sin

great dmg and party utility

[rich inlet]

Sin is expensive like WL at least

[uneven rain]

solo bb meant nothing to them

us?

trash dmg

no utility

terrible bleed application that requires blue books

and solo sb

that's why i keep telling ppl to only play wl if you rlly enjoy the class

cuz there is no other positives

the new wl buffs in kr prob won't even help very much

personal qol yeah it will

but our dmg?

eehhh

cuz new mystic badge basically means frost definitely very high uptime on leech, closer to 100%

shadow's uptime on leech will be better but obv not on the same lvl as frost but they do get the insane qol boost and nice dmg boost from that same mystic badge since it combines all 3 current mystic badges

we kinda got shafted on the new soul badge tho imo

buffs dragoncall and dragon helix

and rupture

for some reason

the stacking buffs are nice too but idk if they're only for shadow or also for frost and if they're only for shadow, if frost got any stacking buffs

wl got taken off yast rn so

can't even check

oh

i figured out how to see it

[rich inlet]

also all of my f3 tooltips are wrong, it shows the ice version instead of shadow lol

[rich inlet]

maybe a not so subtle hint lol

lol that 48 stack

thats just infinite leech

prob don't even need 3

lack of leech uptime is so aids for shadow

[uneven rain]

should've given that to shadow instead of frost

frost doesn't even need it

they got enough leech cdr

[rich inlet]

they'd put it on 48 stack anyway and be impossible unless you're legendary

[uneven rain]

shadow gets a measly

1.5% crit dmg on hit for 3s

stacking 3 times

yeah that's on the same lvl as literally getting 2s cdr on leech every hit

total 3s

plus having 8s of 1s leech cdr per rmb

12s duration with new mystic badge

[rich inlet]

i wonder if blue dcall is better than purple helix

i'll prob swap at some poitn

[uneven rain]

i'd say it kinda depends on the rest of your books too

but we're basing it off like

value of the book by itself

purple helix has more value than blue dc

not like

dg value

like actual value to your personal dmg

if that makes sense

[rich inlet]

yea

i think i'll slowly start to collect like purple rupture and stuff

and swap to dcall once i get purple dcall end of month

i just don't see a future for shadow tbh

[uneven rain]

cuz there isn't one

the only future shadow has is if you're a mega whale and get leggy rmb and 4

or at the very least leggy 4

since it's insane for shadow

[rich inlet]

oh when are we getting those legs?

[uneven rain]

silverfrost

[rich inlet]

ah so next patch

well i enjoyed being top 10 while it lasted LOL

though tbh i only see 3 NA whales

so, as long as i invest a decent bit i should still be top 10

[uneven rain]

eh

depends how fast they wanna speed us up

cuz we still haven't gotten shadowmoor

and that was released inbetween wl and silverfrost on kr

[rich inlet]

i still can't even do hexwood on my main so

idk what they do but 99% of playerbase ain't doin it

[uneven rain]

they keep making new dungeons but only ppl with lots of books can do it

which is fine for kr cuz it's the norm to whale over there

but it's terrible for us

[ocean atlas]

WTS NA

[rich inlet]

oh hey, eclipse (SS) is actually quite good?

[uneven rain]

no

doesn't give enough value to be worth it

[rich inlet]

is there no difference between imprison and mortal coil

or am i just crazy

oh it doesn't instacast dragoncall

just refresh it

alright, i need to luck into purple sb or purple dcall or bombard on my lvl 50 box lol

thats the only way this is gonna work XD

bunny sell me one of your dcalls

[uneven rain]

you say that like i have full purple

im waiting on these stupid dg to stop being pending

so i can buy my stuff

and im going shadow cuz i just prefer it

[rich inlet]

oo good luck!

why does bombardment have a cd

er, cast time

is that always the case? i've never played ice

[uneven rain]

cuz of target debuff

im pretty sure bombardment was casted at the start

they removed it at some point

[rich inlet]

i see

man so you just stand there hardcasting? hrm

[uneven rain]

you can move while casting bombardment

[rich inlet]

oh that is true

[uneven rain]

and it becomes instant when boss has target debuff on them

im just praying that some lump of money miraculously falls into my lap so i can fund full purple and get leggy frags for leggy helix

surely it'll happen right?

[rich inlet]

i believe

oh ps bunny maybe put mantra timing on ur guide

personally i do V 3 V R > 4tf

first V depending on timing coming out of leech

[heady ermine]

Mystic badge (leech CDR) does not work with bombardment? Is it only dimensional rmbs or just bad description on the badge?

[uneven rain]

it does

are you using imprison/mortal coil to actually activate the badge like it says?

dimensional shot = bombardment

[heady ermine]

Haven't bought it cause I wasn't sure.

Thanks for the info tho. I thought my purple bombardment would go to waste

[uneven rain]

would be pretty stupid if it worked on every single rmb in the game except bombardment

[heady ermine]

Everything is possible with NC

[uneven rain]

true but nothing that stupid

cuz then none of the mystic badges would work

since they all say dimensional shot cuz of the translation error

[heady ermine]

Was lucky enough to get both dragoncall and bombardment purples and due to that mistranslation I thought 1 of them would be wasted...

[rich inlet]

whale

[shrewd ledge]

with that we can drop imprison books maybe?

but prob need tether blade book to brand

[uneven rain]

eh i would say you still want imprison mostly for the cd reset but you would only need green, just like leech. also using tether blade just for branding is still a terrible idea imo

also the extra leech cdr is for 48 gm pts which requires 8 extra purple books meaning if you don't have extra legendary books you would have to sacrifice all of your rmb books to get there. Only mega whales would rlly be getting there, since they'll have extra legendary books since 1 legendary books = 3 purple books regarding gm pts

[shrewd ledge]

i think with legendary dcall, u dont need to stack rmb anymore

[uneven rain]

eh im not so confident in that

sure i would agree that you'd stack slightly more dc than rmb but im skeptical you would completely remove all rmb stacking

that's just my opinion tho

i could be wrong

not like im even gonna be able to test it

[rich inlet]

rmb so expensive rn

[jolly skiff]

Why was WL taken off from yast lol

[acoustic knoll]

Damn, gz

Id be worried to try that many times

Woulda been so bad if you ended up wiyh 3 fragments

[thick forum]

Does anyone know if the true dimensional illusion weapon works in warlock?

[green dune]

WTS EU

[wintry wagon]

WTS NA

[dire thicket]

My bad. Its a bug. I will fix it

[dire thicket]

should be back

[green dune]

WTS EU

[misty copper]

i feel like people playing helix more than dragon call somehow?

[stone jackal]

WTSell Pruple Circle of Wrath cheap Pm (AP +8%)

[sinful patrol]

Hey guys, for dragon call build which is better bombardment cdr or focus reduction?

[distant cedar]

same, on eu helix getting more expensive then dragoncall xD

[cobalt thistle]

Purple ice skills were still more expensive yesterday

[shrewd ledge]

idk why shadow skills are mpre expensive in tw server

[finite junco]

so better play dc?

[late falcon]

DC build feels awefull to play without purple 4 and RMB

[sharp wind]

200k alone is pretty cracked tho, killing the 300k hp mobs?

[shrewd ledge]

man dc is definitely stronger this patch

just higher requirements

[late falcon]

can you somehow get purple 4 and RMB? --> go play DC
can't? go play blue helix

[maiden moth]

any good guides for warlock yet?

not sure what the level skills in

[distant cedar]

📌

[whole breach]

Need a guide ?

He beat me

To it

[shrewd ledge]

[maiden moth]

thanks so much

sorry ❤️

[distant cedar]

tbh i wish i could but game gave me all kind of purple bound skills for shadow and not a single ice one xD

[whole breach]

Ice feels like ur lagging

Shadow feels smoother

[maiden moth]

is shadow still better for warlock?

i remember back in the day it was the better build

[whole breach]

No ice is stronger

[maiden moth]

really?

[shrewd ledge]

at least before silverfrost

still figuring out which is stronger with legendary 4

[whole breach]

20% cr on 4 and gives focus back with gm

[maiden moth]

ah so its both pretty even or is ice vastly stronger?

[whole breach]

Ppl say 10-15

I haven’t tested shadow yet

[finite junco]

Well then game is telling u what to play 😂

[shrewd ledge]

fyi

[whole breach]

The game doing u favor

[maiden moth]

okay i have another stupid question sorry

[late falcon]

def not on blue skills level

[shrewd ledge]

dragoncall: 18gm rmb + 5gm dc (full purple)

[maiden moth]

where do i find this in K

[shrewd ledge]

vestea: 14gm rmb + 6gm dc (full purple)

snow moon: 30gm helix with rmb:spectral orb meme build (full purple)

[whole breach]

Damn na is weak

[shrewd ledge]

yea we poor

[late falcon]

you need RMB at least green or blue

[maiden moth]

ahh a skill book on it?

[dire thicket]

yeah you need blue book for bombardment to unlock awakened skill

[shrewd ledge]

lean do u know ice or shadow is stronger in kr rn?

[dire thicket]

no i honestly dont see anyone with shadow in kr so i cant tell

[late falcon]

3 levels to go to open random shiet purple and uninstal lthe game

[whole breach]

Got sanctum on my 50lvl

[shrewd ledge]

damn ok, kr ppl love dragon on head more ig

[late falcon]

KR still have polayers?

[dire thicket]

yes game is a bit better there

[distant cedar]

it does from all my preparations/saving and lvl 50 chest i got purple 2x helix,shadow rmb, shadow f, 2x shadow 3, blue helix, shadow leech and only 1x purple 3 for ice

[shrewd ledge]

i believe kr has more players than na+eu

[maiden moth]

are macros okay to use in this game?

[distant cedar]

as far as i remember single button press yes but for multiple it is against tos

[wintry wagon]

WTS NA

[distant cedar]

but dont quote me on that

[maiden moth]

okay thank you

[shrewd ledge]

everyone uses macro

even in kr

[late falcon]

not allowed by at least 2-3 TOS rules, but everyone using it and nobody banning it, but you might be triggered by anticheat program if you use fully automated macros

[maiden moth]

i thought so

[maiden moth]

whats fully automated macros as opposed to not fully automated?

[late falcon]

like "botting"

[maiden moth]

ah i see like afk not clicking ur mouse type thing

[late falcon]

sicne it uses same sequence and ms over a long period of time

[maiden moth]

there used to be a super nice macro for warlock back on OG game but not sure if it would work for this game too?

[late falcon]

if you mean 4f4tv then no xD

[maiden moth]

HAHA yeah i do

[shrewd ledge]

fully automated macro: ahk stuff

[maiden moth]

i see i see

[rich inlet]

Hey I use 4f4tv

Except I'm doing 4v4ft

Shadow was only better than dragoncall with xml edits and simple mode

And very low (sub 20ms) ping

[tribal python]

Good old meme badge

[rich inlet]

Y'all figure out if you can do permanent leech without leech badge yet?

I need to stock up for ice lol

[south fossil]

wts dragoncall NA

[shrewd ledge]

WTS NA

[white ibex]

thank you so much

[green dune]

wts eu

[acoustic knoll]

if im using legendary shadow rmb, do i remove any points/book i have from rupture? (and remove it from macro too)

[shrewd ledge]

rupture is not worth stacking

[acoustic knoll]

yeah but in general do i just completely remove it

[rich inlet]

i think its useful when out of siphon

if you crit your helix, you'll go back to 2 orbs

so F will let you get to 3

before you launch ur salvo into 3

but yes I would probably just drop it entirely during siphon and do the 4T soulburn combo during any siphon phase

um, but ymmv, try it out

[acoustic knoll]

[ocean atlas]

For WL frost, this one is the one I have to stack?

[acoustic knoll]

according to the pinned guide, you wanna stack that skill and the dragons

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yJaGg4C31Hd0DlEblrHb3pdEiM21fFFoN8appghDN0U/edit?usp=sharing

[shrewd ledge]

with legendary rmb

u can drop rupture

@acoustic knoll

@ocean atlasfocus on 18 stacks for both dragoncall and bombardment then stack either one

[acoustic knoll]

tyty

[ocean atlas]

wow, I need like 3 purp books for each

[rich inlet]

no, you need 0 purples, let me buy some purples please

WL NA market is so dead x.x

[shrewd ledge]

u wanna buy my true neck?

[rich inlet]

i've got a crit neck that i'm slowly upgrading lol

but no i need skill books! where are the skill books man

50k dragoncall x.x

[shrewd ledge]

ppl geedy

[elfin merlin]

i dont have much room for stacking skills if i want to have my quality of life features on most of my skills xD

[dire thicket]

Yeah its another issue of warlock. So many skills are required it limits stacking.

[ocean atlas]

The same with Dchar few days ago

There's a dude wts Dchar for FM like 40k, I told him sell me 35k or he will never sell it at 30k in the next few days, dude refused me, now Dchar is 21k

😂

ppl are greedy with these shjt

[shrewd ledge]

✅

[rich inlet]

hmm, sb lasts longer than leech

what do you guys do in the remaining ~3s?

[elfin merlin]

damage

[distant cedar]

keep holding down macro

[rich inlet]

don't you have to hardcast dcall then

[elfin merlin]

not if u have purple

[rich inlet]

hrm

[shrewd ledge]

3

[elfin merlin]

yeah thats also true

[rich inlet]

but isn't it a waste to channel 3?

[elfin merlin]

i have to look into it but i cast it normally after my second dc to instant reset it, but i dont know if u start to reduce leech cd before it ends

[rich inlet]

for 3, you gottta full cast the 3 hits (and the 3rd hit has to land) to get instacasts and leech cdr

first hit will trigger mystic badge tho

[elfin merlin]

yeah ofc

[rich inlet]

oh i see what you're saying

[naive badge]

best thing would be to reroll to any other class

[elfin merlin]

nah never

[rich inlet]

Yea dragons are cool

And fm are lame

[naive badge]

wdym lame

go play legy ice rain

[rich inlet]

Yea I've already got everything I need

Except the leg ice rain

Who could have forseen this

[green dune]

WTS EU

[maiden moth]

ah so this still works?

[dire thicket]

Where?

Is this damage in the room with us right now?

[still willow]

wtb EU

[elfin merlin]

with purple dc u play a different class

[shy spoke]

purple DC or Bombard first ?

[topaz mesa]

Other than crit rate and crit damage does piercing or accuracy do anything for warlock damage?

[maiden moth]

is there any way to track my parse?

[distant cedar]

piercing negates enemy defense so you do more damage

[elfin merlin]

u get a lot of piercing trough level up so u dont need it on eq

[distant cedar]

your main skills deal additional damage based on your accuracy when you got them on purple

[elfin merlin]

purple skill books scale with specific stats on wl its acc and block

[topaz mesa]

Ok

So accuracy is more important than piercing in that aspect

[tribal python]

You also just need a decent amount of accuracy to not miss too many attacks

[distant cedar]

always

[topaz mesa]

Thanks yall

[maiden moth]

so is there no way to check damage without downloading third party tool which i dont want to do

[distant cedar]

check your combat chat

[maiden moth]

oh

[distant cedar]

see if someone does similiar damage to you at world boss and ask them how much they do in actual numbers

[tribal python]

Start a timer and solo a field boss

[late falcon]

too much skill is involved, like I did almost same dmgas this dude while I have 2 blue skills

[distant cedar]

but if he does simililar dmg you can still ask him how much he does like 10k or 20k or whatever

[late falcon]

true xD

[wind niche]

whats the best soul core for WL guys?

[wind niche]

how can i check which stats the purple books scale?

[distant cedar]

the one you got in purple with the best sub stats

[distant cedar]

in your skill tree, accuracy and block

[wind niche]

im too dumb haha i'm checking all my skills but cant find it 😦

[elfin merlin]

u have to look at the puple skill in ur tree right above Skill Enhancement

[wind niche]

found it!! acc 5% additional damage 35% block, thank you so much ❤️

[elfin merlin]

np ^^

[uneven rain]

you don't stack rupture but yes you can remove pts from rupture since you don't rlly need it anymore. shadow only stacks helix. only frost stacks 2 skills

[late falcon]

I need 3 purple selectors, yosh

[distant cedar]

WTB Purple Dragoncall EU

[uneven rain]

legendary shadow rmb does not need rupture at all

[late falcon]

people talking about legendary and I struggle to get single epic 😄

[uneven rain]

it's the same reason why dimensional volley: spectral orb does not need rupture

but you can also still take focus rupture if you want but if you have leggy rmb then you should also have plenty of focus mantra stones to not need focus rupture

[last wigeon]

Guys for ice its a good opening this one: tab 2 f and then spam 4vtf?

[rich inlet]

I thought it would help u gain orbs when out of siphon

But I forgot u can only rupture on 3rd hit anyway XD

Yea, it makes sense, I had a brain fart

Has anyone tried your meme build yet

On paper it could work lol

[late falcon]

what meme build

btw leech badge on shadow seems bad, especially blue one, you barelly get 2 sec out of it

[rich inlet]

Meme build is ice rupture + dimensional volley: rupture

I think it could work

[distant cedar]

yeah it does work pretty good

burst is way weaker

[rich inlet]

Hmm, I thought it would be stronger cause u can just 4t instead of 4tf

But maybe the raw damage is just low?

Or oh it doesn't generate enough orbs during siphon?

[rich inlet]

I do tab v core 2tab f

with hae mujin core, mujin lands right as siphon and sb does

if you have devourer core you can do core first instead

[last wigeon]

have devourer

[rich inlet]

Then yea core first because it takes ages

[last wigeon]

so its gonna be core tab v 2tab f?

[rich inlet]

That's my recommendation for shadow yep

[last wigeon]

noo for ice

im playing ice

[rich inlet]

For dcall you replace v with 4 I think

And because the cast is long you might end up tab core 4

[last wigeon]

it feels so clanky with only dragoncall and rmb blue

[late falcon]

right RIGHT

[last wigeon]

i need atleast full blues for it to be smooth

and mystic badge for leech

then we gucci

[late falcon]

i dont think build would work without purple 4 and rmb

no way to effectiently reduce cd

[last wigeon]

i have dragoncall epic and rmb blue

but i feel like rupture its more important epic

[late falcon]

you might be right

[last wigeon]

idk if rupture its more important epic than rmb?

i need some whales to answer to this if possible

[late falcon]

I mean crit RMB reduce dc by 1 sec
epic F reduce 1 sec F on rmb crit, since F have 3 sec cd and reduce 3 sec dc, then it's about the same ? but better focus regen I guess

[last wigeon]

RMB reduce dc by 1 sec on crit, does it stack with siphon?

ye so if it stacks ye rmb should be priority... and then rupture epic

[thick spoke]

hiya, what's frost macro? O:

[wind niche]

guys i'm having hard time to get spectral orbs, should i use dimensional salvo spectral orb? instead of cd reduction?

[weak oasis]

WTS PMO NA

[last wigeon]

u have helix epic?

[wind niche]

yeah

also tempest lord or devour soul core?

[shrewd ledge]

i say hae soul core

[paper light]

WTS NA

[shrewd ledge]

bruh just salvage. purple core only sell for 500

[thick spoke]

WTS PMO NA O:

[shrewd ledge]

core 2f tab then macro

[sharp bronze]

Who are you guys picking in Mushin? I cannot for the life of me get past floor 1

[uneven rain]

Same classes you should be picking

For any other class

Fm and summ (archer)

[wind niche]

hae is out of my price range 😦

[rich inlet]

Soul cores are rock bottom, aren't they like 400 at most

You should be able to kill them in one sb, I was able to do it with trash siren gear and profane ss

Maybe a bit more than one sb, spam x and weave z

If you're really having trouble, spam block after u run out of siphon and 3 until u have siphon and again

Ur dps with blue/green books outside siphon is basically nonexistent

When u have full chi spam rmb

Then go back to blocking

[novel maple]

Does anyone else feel like the leech cd reduction badge is the best one?

[tacit hemlock]

uhh; its not a feeling it is the best one

[novel maple]

Fair enough LMAO

[tacit hemlock]

bro with that luck ubetter hope u dont get ran over by a bus the next time u cross a street lol

[acoustic knoll]

yea i dont use rupture anymore, but what do you mean plenty of focus mantra stones?

by mantra stones, do you just mean lmb?

[uneven rain]

...

mantra stones

[acoustic knoll]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hahahhahaha

completely disregarded those things

[quick magnet]

WTS NA

[wind niche]

WTB warlock hae soul core

NA

[wintry wagon]

WTS NA pmo

[distant cedar]

WTB EU

[quick magnet]

WTS NA

[lofty onyx]

WTB purple imprison, rupture & temporal field EU

[dense gull]

for Ice build, is it viable to use Bombardment (Dimensions Shot) Soul badge instead of Dragoncall?

[solar summit]

is this good?

[uneven rain]

Yes but goal should still be DC badge

[uneven rain]

Not good

[dense gull]

Thanks

[lofty onyx]

only if you do more bombardments than 3x your dragoncalls

=> before purple dragoncall

[buoyant widget]

does anyone know the estimated price on the NA server?

[shrewd ledge]

i think gm points buffs soul badge effects

[tacit hemlock]

Look on market, if none are listed u can probs get 5-8k for it on EU. On NA I have no clue.

im surprised soulburn isnt more expensive than helix and dragoncall

considering all specs use it, altho u only need 1 book you would think more people need it 😛

[cobalt thistle]

someone explain to me why only salvo reduces cd for badge and not the other hits.

[shy spoke]

Think nc should put a price range limit for all book on market f5 just that. So ppl wouldnt go crazy on prices

[late falcon]

Cus only 1st hit cost focus 2nd and 3rd is free and have no requirements like frost

But yea, should be 1 sec on bombard and 2 sec on salvo at least..

[late falcon]

You suggest company that squeeze every penny from cash grab game to LIMIT their profit? Hmm

[shy spoke]

Uright it wont work with nc

[cobalt thistle]

also waiting all hits of 3 while badge is active feels not smart

[late falcon]

Would work if it was their target game, like aion, unfortunately bns is just cashgrab

[late falcon]

That's why I said the leech badge is bad for shadow if you don't have max one, blue is just 2 sec of the leech cd, almost not worth it

[distant cedar]

ye but the last hit of 3 reduces leech by 9 sec

in those 1-1,5 sec cast time you cant make up those 9 secs with rmb

[shrewd ledge]

how greedy

[swift hollow]

It's not like anyone will buy it

[misty copper]

what make the maxed one difference? didn't upgrade do nothing on its effect? or did you just mean the purple one?

[cobalt thistle]

He probably ment virtuos.

[misty copper]

welp, i thought so...

btw, i saw some people using [3] right after Soulburn because Awakened Salvo have only 1 combos unlike normal one so badge can reduce leech cd by 10sec+

[rich inlet]

do you mean sb 3 cancel 4T macro?

[elfin merlin]

do u cancel 3 with shadow or ice build?

[rich inlet]

i normally don't cancel it because u need the leech cdr but if you're doing it in sb you kinda have to no?

but i am shadow, maybe ice is different

[misty copper]

it worth to cancel [3] as shadow?

[rich inlet]

no, i'm talking about the strategy you proposed with 3 inside of sb

in general, you need to full channel 3 as shadow has severe chi and leech CDR problems

[trail linden]

Heyo, doing Helix warlock, what is the point of rupture, it feels giga useless most of time and seems like waste to cast, if for mantra Hex storm casts it.
currently running blue RMB, purple Hexstorm, and as far as i'm aware u only cast it while not leech buff, which is like 10% of fight

[distant cedar]

gives you one spectral orb

if you play the cdr rmb version you can increase your maximum helix

[trail linden]

so to basically squeeze out few more Helixes right

[distant cedar]

yeah

[cobalt thistle]

u use it when u have no leech or hexstorm up there is no other way to generate orbs

if u use cdr rmb

[trail linden]

otay, kinda getting but still feel ass to use

thank you!

tldr: purple helix refunds 2, rupture for second helix asap

[cobalt thistle]

yes u want purple helix so it makes more sense to use it

[neon spade]

is there is difference on rerolling a substat before upgrading the piece of equipment or vise versa? or would the 'min and max' also go up when u upgrade the gear?

[elfin merlin]

it has the chance to go up.

[elfin merlin]

im playing ice and i use 3 to reset my 4 and v cd inside sb

[neon spade]

mmm so reroll em before upgrading gotcha, ty

[distant cedar]

if you stay on same rarity there is not that much difference you can also get max stat with rerolling later on but rerolling epic gear costs 1 essence and legendary cost 3 essence

[neon spade]

ya did notice that, def before to legendary! thanks zimti

[wintry wagon]

WTS NA PM

[misty copper]

hooo boy, its that time again folk, may RNGod is with me.

dammit!! and i'm already have one...

[naive badge]

book stack it

[distant cedar]

oh yeah for that juice 59 sec cd insteaf of 1 min xD

[misty copper]

[tacit hemlock]

WTS EU cinderlands

[distant cedar]

WTB Purple Bombardment: Cooldown Reduction and Dragoncall EU

[uneven rain]

Updated the tidbit in the rotation sections and the badge section (totally meant to change the badge part earlier)

[abstract forge]

wts NA Heaven's Reach PMO

[thick spoke]

Both Shadow and Ice about the same when it comes to skill costs?

Outside of helix/dragoncall prices. I know that's like 20k vs 40k+ rn

[distant cedar]

dunno where those wild prices are but on EU helix is 18k in the market that doesnt get sold and dragoncall on 17k that doesnt get sold

[thick spoke]

Ahh, NA rn.

[buoyant widget]

WTS NA Heaven

[naive badge]

WTB EU

[paper light]

Anyone got a warlock dps pharse on dummy?

[shrewd ledge]

@paper light

[paper light]

Omg ty that helps a lot

By any chance could u tell me the stats and books of that pharse?

[shrewd ledge]

can search "Dragoncall" if ur in game

[paper light]

Ohhh i know u

I saw u on beluga xD

[halcyon rover]

Thats kinda low

U miss any rotation ?

[paper light]

Welp he just got 5 gm on dragoncall tho

Also stats not that high

So 28k is pretty good >.<

[shrewd ledge]

it hits the lowest point cuz i didnt do the second sb

stopped right before 2nd sb is up

[halcyon rover]

I see but already have purpple dc

Thats why i'm saying thats low

U can check my stats lScreeenNl

On dummy my dps its 35+

And i dont have dc yet

[shrewd ledge]

1k more crit dmg dude

[halcyon rover]

purpple Dc> 1k crit dmg

[cedar herald]

if you're doing 35k you gotta be cheating

[halcyon rover]

When i get home gonna made a dps and i send here

[shrewd ledge]

did another one

temporal field during sb seems better

[cedar herald]

wait you weren't doing temporal during sb?

[shrewd ledge]

i used to use it after 3

[cedar herald]

[shrewd ledge]

turns out im being dumb

[rich inlet]

I've played with screen he's legit

Never see him in wb though lol

[shrewd ledge]

he should come for wb

[rich inlet]

No don't I'm barely top 10 as is

Also what happened to warlock na gear market

There nada for sale not even trash

[shrewd ledge]

my trash neck sold for 1.5k yesterday

[rich inlet]

That's embarrassing XD

[shrewd ledge]

but no one willing to buy my true siren

[rich inlet]

I shudder what that guy selling a double critical ear is gonna charge

I was gonna offer like 2k but looking at the gear market he prob wants closer to 20k lol

[cedar herald]

there's one on the market for 7k rn

[shrewd ledge]

imo the 2.5k one with 143 cr is better

[cedar herald]

is this your typical crit rate for parsing?

[halcyon rover]

I dont have time to do wb

I just play on reset

[shrewd ledge]

sort of, dcall got lucky than normal tho

[cedar herald]

I just fused a bunch of crit and can't get close wtf

[shrewd ledge]

my ss are trash

[cedar herald]

67.5% crit on dragoncall wtf is that

[severe silo]

guys whats the best warlock build

[rich inlet]

the one with the most purples

guys is dimensional flare useful for anything?

[fossil steppe]

so dragon call better than helix?

[rich inlet]

most likely yes

[uneven rain]

yes

[uneven rain]

no

[rich inlet]

sad, i have a purple one D=

[uneven rain]

F

[rich inlet]

is it better than blue bombard lol

[uneven rain]

no

[rich inlet]

noooooo

maybe i just yolo a legendary bombard

easy one tap right?

[uneven rain]

surely

[rich inlet]

is purp mantra important for dcall too?

[uneven rain]

yes but blue is a good stopping point if getting purple is too much

also with silverfrost

the new mystic badge should let frost drop it entirely

shadow? doubt it. spec is too focus hungry

[shrewd ledge]

purple is not necessary

for dcall

[rich inlet]

interesting

[misty copper]

somehow shadow meme build is a lot comfortable to play but a little less dps.

[rich inlet]

oh? thats interesting huh

i would imagine yea at low gear you really need the chi

[shrewd ledge]

it's less dps?

[mystic bridge]

I'm assuming Purple Dcall is higher prio over Purple Bombard?

[misty copper]

mine dps is less cause I'm only have blue helix

[rich inlet]

oo cool, i'll try the meme

[misty copper]

hex storm reduce CD of [x] is so useless, why they just not make it reduce CD of leech or something. 🤦‍♂️

[shrewd ledge]

prob gets higher when u have purple helix

cuz it just gives more helix

[wind niche]

so shadow is way lower dps than frost?

[shrewd ledge]

yes

honestly idk for how much lower

my friend snow moon went back to bm

so

[wind niche]

ohh i got helix purple book =/

[uneven rain]

now we only got Ikenie as our shadow whale

everyone else is frost

someone fund me so i can be the resident shadow whale

[wind niche]

you guys just made me sad to go shadow hahah

[uneven rain]

who cares if you do a little less dmg

fun is more important

[shrewd ledge]

never seen ikenie on wb

[uneven rain]

i saw them once

[cedar herald]

He only pulled up yesterday

[shrewd ledge]

last night?

damn i wasnt there

[cedar herald]

Yeah

[wind niche]

anyone have a hae soul core to sell for social price? cheap haha

[distant cedar]

#1357802877585854635 message still buying

[brave sierra]

which build is more budget friendly and easier to use for new players?

[distant cedar]

if you are stuck at green then ice

if you can afford blue go shadow

but in the end play what you enjoy and like (but keep in mind shadow only gets available at blue there is no green helix)

[last wigeon]

What's the new mystic badge from new zone does? Tried to check it with Google translate but it's not translating as it should

[uneven rain]

it's just all 3 current mystic badges combined into 1

with the duration on the leech cdr and hex/wingstorm cdr ones increased to 12s from 8s

[last wigeon]

Oh then shadow build its gonna be better than ice ?

[uneven rain]

heh

[last wigeon]

Or not

[uneven rain]

it'll definitely shorten the gap

but frost will still be better especially if the frost player has legendary dc and can get 48 gm pts

leggy helix is bonkers too but the stacking bonuses are worse

so it kinda evens out

[misty copper]

Best build is the one you like 👍

[buoyant widget]

WTS NA heaven OfferPrice

[uneven rain]

[shrewd ledge]

buy it bunny

[uneven rain]

im broke man

[last wigeon]

U can get the new badge from the chest as usual or u need to upgrade from a previous one?

Bcs i m seeing if u salvage it it gives 226 which is weird

[uneven rain]

[last wigeon]

It's smth we should check on bcs if we need upgrade to know atleast

[uneven rain]

you upgrade into it

this little tidbit at the bottom of the tooltip says you can evolve after +10

same as soul badge but only virtuous can do it ofc

[slim crane]

any german warlock here?

need an introduction to the class 😄 best case in german

[last wigeon]

We fked

:))

[uneven rain]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[last wigeon]

What's the soul badge does?

I see 3 things

[uneven rain]

rupture and helix/dc

the worst combination they could've done imo

[last wigeon]

😑

Yep, we upgrade the mystic badge only

[dire thicket]

shadow needs a hex storm badge

[uneven rain]

once shadow gets leggy rmb you don't use rupture anymore

[last wigeon]

That's the juice part

[uneven rain]

which is technically also true if you run spectral orb rmb instead of cd reduction

[last wigeon]

Yep

[uneven rain]

so that part only rlly benefits frost

and even then

rupture isn't big dmg on frost

so buffing it does nothing

[last wigeon]

It's not worth it in my opinion

Only the mystic badge since it does alot

But it's gonna be so expensive to get to +10...

[uneven rain]

170% on rupture is crazy

whoo let's buff a skill that doesn't do dmg for frost

and isn't even used by half of shadow players

[dire thicket]

this doesnt matter

and i dont think half of shadow players have legendary rmb. Well maybe there are only 5 shadow players

[uneven rain]

spectral orb rmb

[last wigeon]

But 210% on dragoncall it's juicy from 145

[uneven rain]

yeah the helix/dc % are juicy

[whole breach]

What are u smoking

Then u switch to ice rupture for the focus problems

[distant cedar]

[uneven rain]

it's not rlly needed. especially if you have purple mantra which if you have leggy rmb im gonna assume you do. it's def nice to have and makes things a lot smoother

im not sure you can't use it at all

you def can

but it's not a complete necessity

[whole breach]

I dropped lmb

U have no focus issues with ice rupture

I can hit 60 msp boss and don’t struggle beyond 4 bars

Try it

[uneven rain]

i am

im using it rn

[whole breach]

Why would y use lmb then

[uneven rain]

i use it as a backup when mantra isn't up

when mantra buff is up i don't have focus problems

[lofty onyx]

whats your current rotation?

how much insta cast downtime do you have?

[slim crane]

on bombardement - you play cdr or focus rec?

[distant cedar]

core-tab-4-2-f-v-tab-(44ftspam) until instacast is over where i go into 3-v and macro again

i loose insta cast on the 3rd rotation

[uneven rain]

cdr

focus redction is pvp

[slim crane]

ok ty

expensive class xD

[uneven rain]

yes

and one of the worst in terms of dmg

we only play for fun

[acoustic knoll]

Very expensive but somewhat satisfying ti play

Its also quite ping friendly from my exp

[slim crane]

okey understand - i thought i can play some aoe dmg class xD and tryed warlock

and staying back and do some lazy dmg

the prob is normaly i playing destroyer - but the marked is sooo empty..

and just start to play this game since 4 weeks with some friends xD

[acoustic knoll]

Warlock kinda fits this

But expensive

[slim crane]

yes - i know a lot of books are im portant - but wich one should i buy if i have 5k gems atm?

[acoustic knoll]

Check the pinned msgs

Tgere is a guide that kinda assists u

With what to start

[slim crane]

raptur purpel 5k atm

okey ty

[last wigeon]

U need leach mystic badge but it's expensive now..

Guys how long untill we get the new zone? Anyone have any info?

[uneven rain]

kr just got it like

2 or 3 days ago

we're getting it in like 2 months assuming they keep to 1 patch a month

cuz i doubt they'll bundle shadowmoor and silverfrost together

[whole breach]

They need to update that road map

[uneven rain]

atp it would basically be a copy pasta from kr's roadmap they posted a while ago

more or less

[rich inlet]

Wtf what about the text on mystic badges that says "hey btw u can never upgrade this"

Hey I'm shadow and I'm consistently top 10 so, maybe shadow isn't so bad

It's certainly cheaper than ice atm

Though not by much if being honest

What is the warlock landscape on KR? Is shadow still worse?

[uneven rain]

1. it's new text added with silverfrost patch
2. only virtuous badge is upgradeable like i said

[uneven rain]

no idea for sure tbh but the gap between the 2 is definitely smaller

but im pretty sure frost is still ahead

not like we'll even get a concrete answer

since like

basically no one plays wl in kr

[slim crane]

dont get it, its not instacast if i do this combo

[uneven rain]

it should be

that first F after 2 is Leech

[slim crane]

is the tap for summon ? or for get buff

[uneven rain]

sb

the summon is before all that

[slim crane]

ok but how he summon again after his V

[uneven rain]

oh i misunderstood

yeah the first one is summon

2nd is sb

[slim crane]

sb means soul flare right?

[uneven rain]

tho using core that early is pretty much only if you use devourer since it has a long cast time

yes

i refuse to call it sf or soul flare

that's the new naming that for neo

[rich inlet]

Yes soul flare is cancer

[uneven rain]

on live it's called Soulburn

[slim crane]

ah ok

[uneven rain]

no idea why they changed it

[rich inlet]

Cause they want to remind us we don't have any utility

[slim crane]

but question, if i summon and then i use buff, i start with my 4 while its not instacast?

[uneven rain]

yes

the first 4 is hardcast

[slim crane]

mhm ok takes time at the start