Warlock

[rain tide]

Feel like first ppl to get one of main 4 skills purps and post it will treat it as legs not purp

Idk bout when other classes were new and ppl could barely get blues how were purp priced

[tribal python]

Helps that blue books from other classes are cheap at least

If youre not on one of the servers with separate marketplace

[rain tide]

Oh yea thats something

[tribal python]

But yeah if there's some whales going warlock theyll be very high

[rain tide]

Guess itll be a race of who gets lucky first/whale first into them

[tribal python]

There's some people who sold their stuff to reroll to warlock too

So there's definetly enough gems available to spend there

[rain tide]

Idk bout enough

Cuz u can spend 50k and get no main skill

[tribal python]

I mean enough gems to drive up prices

[tribal python]

Yeah

The legendary skills look pretty huge

• there's only 3 of them, so better odds to hit the one you want

[shrewd ledge]

2/3 useful legendary

[tribal python]

Some whales are going to enjoy that

[lofty onyx]

does someone have a full yast build for ice wl?

[shrewd ledge]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOKR180625"&class="Warlock"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAEg8V2gAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8s3GRZ8pZ5k9gisUIQrFABN9CeNwQqhZCyUCoegjlshFsmG9icUlqUWVwSWJJauM2FCGwnZn5ecVNywzNDQ2MzFqWuhelpuYxLHHKKU1lWBZQWlSQk8q8xD0_J4UBpMTIwACrEjaIEgAGT7HcxwAAAA"

[small ore]

and shadow ? would it also have ?

[shrewd ledge]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOKR180625"&class="Warlock"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAFhIV2gAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8s3GRZ8pZ5rdNIIqFe7VzRmJeeqpnXkpqBQNYikUGQrlAVLBgqmD-CVFhAqHqIFTDRrA1vonFJalFlcEliSWpjdtQhMCuyczPK25cZmhuaGRg0LLUvSg1NY9hiVNOaSrDsoDSooKcVM4l7vk5KQwABTa4Hr4AAAA"

normally should look like this

but i have a meme build to be tested

[small ore]

ty ty

[fierce reef]

Warlock is low dps ? or good enought ?

[fringe kestrel]

WL is on the bottom of dps next to summoners. as far as korean parses tell us at least

[fierce reef]

[lofty onyx]

Is there any transloation of warlock badges out there?

[misty copper]

this one thing I worrying, sum is kind of a support class so it have lower personal dps is ok-ish. but wl have no party utility and also low dps is concerning

[tribal python]

We'll learn soon enough if thats actually true

I wouldnt be surprised if the warlock is less geared than the people were comparing them to

[meager knot]

again warlock dont have legendary book for (4) skill witch should be half of the dps with (lmb) and (v) as other half

[fierce reef]

I will play it as Alt . Only for when they put party buff (when raven raid maybe xD)

[tribal python]

I believe these are the correct translations for the mystic badges

Imprison triggers effect for 8 seconds.
RMB reduces the cooldown of Wingstorm by 2 seconds.

Imprison triggers effect for 10 seconds.
RMB recovers 3 focus.

Imprison triggers effect for 8 seconds.
RMB reduces the cooldown of Leech by 1 second.

[tribal python]

^

[lofty onyx]

thank you

I guess you aim for the leech one?

[tribal python]

Need to finish looking at all the skills

All the cooldown reductions all over the place make stuff a little confusing

[uneven rain]

yes

you want to have as much leech uptime as you possibly can, we won't get 100% but the goal is just to get as high of an uptime as possible

[paper light]

Anyone knows how good is warlock with the aoe?

[uneven rain]

i mean

4 is aoe

and hits pretty hard

so...

[paper light]

And rmb?

[uneven rain]

it's single target

[paper light]

And warlock just hits with that?

[tribal python]

Dragoncall has a bigger aoe than Dragon Helix

[uneven rain]

3 is also aoe

v is also aoe

f is aoe

[paper light]

Or it have something else like cc?

[uneven rain]

soul shackle is aoe

x is aoe (with book)

most of our skills are aoe

tbh it's not rlly a selling point on whether or not a class has good aoe because that doesn't rlly matter all that much

trash mobs die too quick for it to matter

[tribal python]

Bsh2 boss 1 😎

I'm guessing hitting both Lab bosses is too optimistic

[fringe kestrel]

exactly why people are sad about the class. WL used to have the best party buff in the game With SOUL BURN, but with that gone and no personal dos to compensate, it is going to be hard fitting into parties when force masters do your same job better

[tribal python]

Its weird that there's no awakened dragoncall/helix either

Though the crit rate and additional crit dmg on purple book soul burn do seem quite strong

[ornate egret]

do we know what the best badges are for ice/shadow?

[tribal python]

Ice probably needs Leech to have higher uptime on instant cast

Its possible Shadow wants Wingstorm for spectral orb generation, but I havent gone through all of Shadow yet to be confident in that answer (need to see what people actually play.)

Though its possible Shadow still relies on Siphon to have enough Focus

[naive badge]

both builds play leech badge

rest is garbage

[misty copper]

I have a feeling that they're keeping party Soulburn for the Legendary version....

[shrewd ledge]

only in dream

[fierce reef]

no they dont , they maybe reactivate party buff when Raid coming

[drowsy meteor]

sooo, is Warlock tomorrow??

[valid tendon]

#💻︱server-maintenance message

ye

[drowsy meteor]

YES

[weary yoke]

2 days for EU

[drowsy meteor]

(

[solar summit]

dang wl really got cooked with this skill system, ice is unplayable before purple and shadow is not spameable also before purple, soulburn is not priority I'm right?

[distant cedar]

sb is probably same priority like bb for sin but thankfully there are also green and blue versions of it

[native bay]

anyone know which build is gonna be cheaper to get damage out of?

[zenith charm]

sadly all info seems to be in korea

[zenith charm]

wait only way to spam shadow is if you have purple book ?? rip 💀

i used to main shadow in live cuz how slow ice was and shadow felt much more mobile for both boss mechanics and pvp , now thats awful if you are forced to get it for purple book which we know book these days sells for very high price

[native bay]

i saved those two builds posted above

i imagine they will be made in english once we get the class on yast

i dont really remember warlock rotation or anything though will have to see if my muscles still do when i play it haha

[zenith charm]

@native bay class hella easy , spam 2 > 3 >4 then left and right click and V here and there , since warlock has very long cooldowns , got burst but not great sustain which is why people sometimes used to use cooldown reset skill on 2 min cooldown from thrall back in the days but then got killed by people simply spamming soulburn instead

[native bay]

the purple rng boxes and the blue selector will be usable for warlock if we left in account inventory yeah?

[zenith charm]

yeah

@native bay tho most people didn't bother cuz catching up with whales and day 1 players at this point with fresh character is big nightmare in itself ,i plan to make it as alt farm despite warlock was my main in live , since i know i can't catch up

[native bay]

maybe ill have better luck than on my other accounts

i mean you dont really have to catch up with whales warlock will have their own world boss rankings

which i mean if your not a whale you wont be anywhere near the whales anyway

im f2p and the strongest fm on the new steam server

but thats mainly because the server is extremly underpopulated

[zenith charm]

i mean........you will gate kept to oblivion when you try to do endgame content for lack insigna and month's of progression they have 💀

ah you play on steam make sense now yeah you can catch up since server still new , server like moonwater plain which i play on is totally different story

[native bay]

i play on both

[zenith charm]

@native bay make sure to make your warlock on steam server will be better experience

gate keep is less pain there

[native bay]

i have a purple account with lvl 54 kfm(its retired) lvl 49 fm lvl 50 destroyer(deleted) then i made new account on steam it has a lvl 52 fm and a lvl 42 fm

i think i will make the warlock on heavens reach tbh the market is not sustainable on new steam servers

hard to find blue books

cant sell anything there

not even any bots on the new servers that should let you know how bad the market is haha

[zenith charm]

@native bay ah you NA good

here in EU gate keep is really bad

i don't know about NA community so i can't speak myself about it , tho as long as you don't mind getting gate kept then all good

[tribal python]

Better to be gatekept by some than to have no parties at all

[native bay]

na community on HR super gatekeepy to but i had a clan and they know im not a scrub so they probably still take me to anything i meet dps reqs for

[tribal python]

If there's no indication of a server merge in the short term its going to be a bad decision to pick the emptiest server

[native bay]

i mean they might would carry but i hate getting carried tbh

if i cant hit dps reqs i dont like to join things anyway

i mean made a clan its got hardcore peeps in it on new server so we find parties

[zenith charm]

if you have clan yeah then all these issues i mentioned not big deal then

[native bay]

but market is a tragedy and likely be another month before we kill a worldboss

we only have about 20 people that show up to world boss when we actually try to do it

[zenith charm]

@native bay i loss 40% value on my items cuz market shut down 1 week cause high supply and low demand on crafting stuff lol

[native bay]

yeah i basically been using my fm account on heavens reach to fund my steam account

because at least i can sell things there lmao

[zenith charm]

@native bay good stuff lol

[drowsy delta]

So.. i prolly know the answer but anyone comfirmed That purples books go gonna be expired?

Still hoping xD

[grim bison]

Let’s hope the blue selectors work on WL

[shrewd ledge]

one day counting down

[rain tide]

U mean lets cope

[delicate trout]

i had blue selector on mail and said something like warlock not available and had to use it on another char. But the random purple 3 chest doesnt say it

[rain tide]

Yes but they didnt include wl text till after the event ended

So till this one ends we wont know

[tacit vector]

literally none of my account storage skill books have anti wl text on them 👀

[tribal python]

Depends when you got them

[paper light]

Anyone knows if kr warlock had something to help pt besides dmg?

Like cc in general

Or something that difference warlock from fm?

[misty copper]

well, at lease wl have easy to use knockdown. (x)

[shrewd ledge]

WE HAVE KD

WE ARE BETTER THAN FM

[paper light]

Yeeeeee

This is all i wanted

Easy to use kd with no book

Fm kd is imposible to use

[ornate egret]

hope you guys left a charfacter slot open lol

[valid tendon]

Or dont mind spending 500dg per character slot

[paper light]

I mean 500 gems is pretty cheap i wouldnt mind xD

[uneven rain]

kr got 2 free slots btw

[primal marsh]

So the wl have a low dmg and no party buff?

[shrewd ledge]

nope we play WL just by love

[uneven rain]

playing a class because it's meta is a one-way ticket to being bored of a game

[shrewd ledge]

we want it to be strong tho cuz it's the class we like

[uneven rain]

i could care less tbh

[shrewd ledge]

same but still

[paper light]

Welp no one got pt buff xD and being able to easy kd the boss is pretty usefull

Boss with kd is practically a dummy xD

[wooden eagle]

WHEN LAUNCH WARLOCK

[valid tendon]

after maintenance

[brazen rover]

So warlock doesn't bring anything to party other than dps ? Wouldn't that make fm better in a party setting ?

[shrewd ledge]

sanctum is a party buff

lmao

[tribal python]

Cc resist 😎

But then you cant run the cdr one

😔

[shrewd ledge]

if ur selling at same price as fm core skill ❤️

[shrewd ledge]

wait cdr one is also a party no?

[tribal python]

The cdr one doesnt mention party members

So...

[misty copper]

look like i'm the only helix user around here.

[honest folio]

Shadow wl for ever if i cant spam dargoncalls XD

[misty copper]

there're some balance change come out in kr today, no idea what its say but seem to be dps buff, wl included https://youtu.be/YOJ0I9MRrZ8

[gleaming wharf]

"balance change" lmao..

it's another p2w system similar to book stacking

[misty copper]

Really? damn it, now i'm sad

[strange canopy]

what time is the warlock update?

[edgy arch]

Maintenance should be over by 10pm est. unless there is extensions.

[distant cedar]

there will be extension

[rain tide]

Definitely

[tacit vector]

more NA only maintenance extensions is the way to go

[zenith charm]

oh yeah im planning to go shadow warlock for spam and mobility running around and nuke

[rain tide]

Nuke for 1k dmg per hit with endgame gear xdd

[zenith charm]

you didn't test warlock so i wouldn't take what you say as cannon , beside they will get buff like video above showing

[zenith charm]

tho would be funny if you get dragon call and hit for 1,5k instead 🤣

[distant cedar]

its not people are actually i framing stuff in 6v6 anyways so dragon will do the job too

[rain tide]

U mean that big animation that tickles yea xD

[distant cedar]

cant wait to be nr1 target in skyhaven with my wl because there are no more melees who can attack the demon xD

[zenith charm]

6v6 shadow better duo to mobility , was even meta and i used to nuke people with it , dragon was very clunkly i remember back then

but yeah with neo different balance its hard to know

[distant cedar]

I'm not that deep into all skills but what mobility skill does shadow wl have that ice is missing?

[zenith charm]

if my memory serve me well you can spam your 4 much more quickly while moving around without have to stand still for very long , if you watch video of warlock casting dragon above in this threat you will see him standing still for very long ,

if you fight destro he will insta jump you or spin to win

if you fight KFM his tab jump is only 6 sec cooldown so he will face hug you

sin good luck see him let alone catch up he can decoy your skill for easy bait

cc + dragon will be very clunky as animation is just too long and predictable

Thats why i go shadow for both pve ( to avoid mechanics easier while spamming ) , but also pvp too

[distant cedar]

alright so it just about cast time that might be difficult in pvp

still i prefer summoning cool dragons so ice it is 😄

[rain tide]

Full green books wl lets go

Ice ofc

[zenith charm]

@distant cedar you have two choices

go with shadow and being brave in fighting other players and aggressive

2nd option is go dragon but play safe and only do your long burst when other players are busy or not targeting you , so you will having hard time defend yourself compare to shadow , but you can nuke people who say chasing your horn carrier or busy fighting your teamate so you play him as support pretty much

[distant cedar]

this might work perhaps as ice, specially with the sanctum when you can't be targeted for 10 secs https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOKR180625"&class="Warlock"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAHGUWmgAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVJ8h0GoaZFnylkWo9XOGYl56ameeSmpFQyNYDE2sBTzJxQpiNhbTDEWdSxGKEMoAYgKESwquCEG_sVioDYWMQssRkhCpJywSPlCKFsIxQtR6IGicCM4PHwTi0tSiyqDSxJLUhu3oQiBgy0zP6-4AQDBkro_RAEAAA"

[zenith charm]

@distant cedar ye translation pretty bad having hard time to read it with google translate xD

[misty copper]

yah more helix user

[rain tide]

Is walmart ice wl same skills just greens thats it?

Like is there another skill not implemented in the purp version that might help a greenie but isnt necessary on purps

[grizzled stump]

Did Warlock not release today?

[thick forum]

do u have videos of what both builds look like? O w O

[grizzled stump]

Or did they release it and not give us a way to add a character slot?

[misty copper]

server will go into maintenance in around 9hrs from now and take like 4hrs to finished, maybe more.

[misty copper]

they didn't add free slot but they selling char slot for 500dg at maximum of 5slots

[grizzled stump]

Oh geez. I guess technically that is today, but most of the day is gone by that point

Thanks for the info!

[distant cedar]

never saw neo pvp for wl but here are the two specs on the dummy, ice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n60rzEGnDuQ
shadow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taeTcLtog2A&t=1s

[weary yoke]

man i don't really like what they did with the visuals and sound effects

[thick forum]

Tyvm!

[misty copper]

yeh, helix lost those KABAAM sound it have.

[misty copper]

Good news! 1 free char slot is coming and new bp including purple selector.

[paper light]

Anyone knows whats the rotation for ice wlk?

[heady lynx]

whats the mystic badge situation looking like for wl

[zenith charm]

i would say similar to how destro entire life revolve around execute

then for warlock will be dragon on everything and anything that support dragon skill

[tribal python]

^ if you're curious

[heady lynx]

ah ty, the translations are much needed

[zenith charm]

from seeing numbers dragon does more damage , good to see comparison , tho not sure how will work pvp wise

[misty copper]

Hey, which purple skill you guys will get first from the selector? I'm thinking between [RMB] or Dragon.

[dim flame]

wind sever

[tribal python]

The one which ends up being the most expensive probably

[misty copper]

Welp, i guess its [4] Dragon, probably.

[tacit vector]

double cast on crit dragons gotta be more pog than an extra seccond cdr on rmb

[tribal python]

Does it actually reset the skills cd (so you can cast twice in a row on crit)

or does it store the instant cast for the next time youre able to use the skill

[weary yoke]

it's actual double cast from what i know

but idk personally, WL gonna be underleveled and low stats relatively so low crit rate, early on 4 might not be the best

[tacit vector]

on live wouldn't autocast it again, just gave you the combo indicator on the skill for a few secs and let you press it again to instant cast

[weary yoke]

and since a purple selector is "confirmed", then i guess that means it's ONE purple selector

which sucks at this point in the game

[tribal python]

Helps that ice has a crit buff (besides purple soulburn)

[zenith charm]

ikr !! , i need atleast 4 of them to get the basic not even stacking , thats like 4 month lol

[vagrant path]

What skills to use for the warlock?

[weak oasis]

w8 so warlock will have the exact same destroyer problem? where execute its prettymuch the only option if u wanna keep up? im main destro and was thinking to move to wl to evade that problem u.u

so wich dragon its the execute of wl? dragon call or helix ?

[uneven rain]

wl is, imo, the most expensive class

so if you're moving to escape an expense issue

wl is not for you

[weak oasis]

its more like i dislike execute i wanted to play earth

[shrewd ledge]

it's like ice rain and dragonchar

[weak oasis]

but no1 its selling mighty cleaves and i dont wanna rng box to get them since they are not that expensive

[uneven rain]

so your issue is just

you don't want to be stuck into 1 spec

[shrewd ledge]

or puncture and dt

[weak oasis]

in shadow spec exactly on des if wl "execute" its fun to play to me then i dont mind

[uneven rain]

then yeah that's not rlly an issue here. Yes frost (dragoncall) will likely be the better spec but you can play shadow (helix) perfectly fine

just both are very expensive

[weak oasis]

well i saved like 100 blue books to gamble on wl hopeing for the best

[uneven rain]

and like half of the books are different

pretty much the only ones that are the same between the 2 builds are sb, mantra, and sanctum

[shrewd ledge]

you will get tether blade xd

thats how gamba ends

[weak oasis]

yeah im expecting bad stuff if thats so i will stay on des

[shrewd ledge]

and i will get quell

[uneven rain]

you'll get the thrall swap skill and like it

[weak oasis]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU250625"&class="Warlock"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAI8mW2gAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8sXGRZ8pZ5k8bwYK-icUlqUWVwSWJJamN21CEwHoz8_OKGwA5owcwSQAAAA" got updated

[uneven rain]

[weak oasis]

aslo yeah i see that there is 2 sides one for helix and other for dragon call and they dont work on eachtoer

[shrewd ledge]

im surprised there is no good buffs on purple leech as a core skill

[uneven rain]

you block defensive skills for 6s

[weak oasis]

so the normal dragoncall its the good one and normal helix since it looks that the alt of each its more for pvp since it has add dmg to stun daze etc.

am i right?

[shrewd ledge]

yea lets block tempest lord's defensive skills

[uneven rain]

both helix and dc have a pve and pvp version

that's literally all it is

[shrewd ledge]

i really need ppl to test the meme helix build

[uneven rain]

same for rmb however shadow rmb has a potential meme build that needs testing

and we ignore the middle bombardment

we pretend it doesn't exist

[shrewd ledge]

it will exist in ur legendary chests

[weak oasis]

yeah airbone dragon call "pvp" and dragon call pve

the addtitional dmg its soo missleading

[uneven rain]

that's why you read the desc

not just the name

[weak oasis]

since it was on koran i was not sure but now that i am readin its like why soo many why not just put them togheder 1 dragoncall and 1 helix

[uneven rain]

cuz ncsoft

[weak oasis]

aslo how its wl in dmg in korea anyone knows?

cuz im always on pugs dont wanna get summoner treatment xD

[uneven rain]

meh last i heard

[weak oasis]

rlly?

aww

[uneven rain]

we don't rlly care tho

we don't play for dmg

we play for fun

[weak oasis]

i do too but most ppl asking for party dont

[uneven rain]

that much was certain once sb was shown to be solo

[shrewd ledge]

tbh i like solo sb more

[uneven rain]

you don't need to be a top dps class to reach dps thresholds

[weak oasis]

other day someone was asking for 16k dmg for bsh2 and kicked me of the party i do like 22k to hae missing some executes

[shrewd ledge]

as a WL myself

[weak oasis]

cuz he didnt think i could do it with my build

[uneven rain]

that's called an elitist player

and they are a minority

[weak oasis]

yeah those have been there since live

[uneven rain]

ik

[shrewd ledge]

yea i will take u to bsh2 even u do 0 dmg but use ur cc

[uneven rain]

still a minority

[weak oasis]

time distor its also solo or party?

[uneven rain]

all solo

wl has only 2 party "buffs"

[weak oasis]

sanctum

[uneven rain]

specifically the left and middle sanctum

right sanctum is not party

[weak oasis]

i see so it has 2 but can only use 1

[uneven rain]

we only use right tree sanctum

no point in us using the others for pve

[weak oasis]

and for what i seeonly good for pvp

wich we dont have

[uneven rain]

yup

[weak oasis]

arena when qwq

so pretty much the build its blue leech a good rmb pve 4 dragon call or helix but dragon call its the big pp dmg purple sb or time distor and wingstorm right?

am i missing something?

[topaz mesa]

Have they come out with the class change thing or are they still pretending to hold out on the 100 dollar bundle

[uneven rain]

no class change

[uneven rain]

only need green leech. rmb, 4, sb, v, 3, c, mantra, rupture all purple. however if i were pick out like 3 skills that are a must for purple it would be 4, rmb, and sb for either build

[weak oasis]

ohh so no time distor just sb

[uneven rain]

ye cuz it sucks

[paper light]

What is sb?

[uneven rain]

soulburn

[weak oasis]

soul burn

[paper light]

Aaaaaaaa

I keep seeing those target thing and siphon on warlock skills

What are those?

[weak oasis]

nice that leech its good with green have been saveing some blue selectors

[uneven rain]

target is a "debuff" you put on the target, basically lets bombardment be instant cast

siphon is a buff you gain from using leech

[weak oasis]

but ecplise brand its not a must?

[paper light]

Icic

So i just need to perma target bosses and spam leech and i am oki?

[uneven rain]

there are many sources of target, so that's not a problem

leech can't be 100% uptime

we just don't have enough cdr for it

but yes you do use it when you can

[paper light]

Aaaaa so like fm green blazing beam with the burning

It looks pretty fun >.<

[uneven rain]

you say that until you realize wl is the most expensive class

[paper light]

I am main sin so

Ppl asked me if i was crazy playing sin being f2p and high ping xD

[uneven rain]

all of our books are required to be purple

only like

[paper light]

Playing electro pierce with 180 ping xD

[uneven rain]

1 or 2 them doesn't need to be

[paper light]

Same with all classes xD

[uneven rain]

nope

[weak oasis]

not really

destro only need like 3 or 4 skills to do the big dps

[uneven rain]

other classes can at least function well and pump decent dmg w/ blue or even green

[weak oasis]

just that one its super expensive

[uneven rain]

wl can't even function properly with full green

[paper light]

Welp ye sin just need electro pierce and poison to do dmg

But u need the purple poison books to keep poison x5 all the time xD

[weak oasis]

here wl needs many skills to do rotation for what i am seeing

[uneven rain]

you need like 9 unique skills

rest is stacking

[paper light]

Fm and sin need 9-10 skills aswell xD

[uneven rain]

8 of them are required to be purple

[paper light]

And most classes do too xD

[weak oasis]

u said only 3 where a must qwq

[uneven rain]

yes

[paper light]

Idk maybe u exagerating a lil xD

Ppl said sin is super expensive

[uneven rain]

i said they were the most important

[paper light]

Also ice fm

[uneven rain]

not that they were the only purple books you need

[paper light]

I do play both being f2p

And i dont really feel them being super expensive

Wlk prolly similar >.<

[uneven rain]

not rlly

[weak oasis]

are u stacking purple skills being f2p?

[paper light]

Said playing not whaling xD

[weak oasis]

i just do cuz i got lukcy and got multi big cash skills that sold for 30k

[paper light]

But i do have them stacked with blue books >.<

[weak oasis]

yeah btu that will not be ebought in the future

[uneven rain]

wl genuinely needs the purple books to even function properly

[paper light]

Its oki my ping dont let me do dps anyways

So i just run what i can with my dps

And sometimes my friends kidnap me to the hard dungeons >.<

[weak oasis]

if its like that then yeah any class its good for u if u have fun

[paper light]

Devs are evil

Conmunity is wholesome

[paper light]

I mean i do 15k on blood mane when my ping works at his best

Can u imagine how weak i am? >.<

Sin 10 gm 850 ap hae mujin set + yunma fei and bbr and 2,9k crit rate and 2,6k crit dmg

Lvl 55

And cant do dmg

Is sad

I wanna cry

But got lovely friends at least >.<

[weak oasis]

well sin depends on ping to do dmg

i would suggest go for a firenly ping class if u wanna do more dmg

aslo warlock its a ping depending class

and hard to build and for what ppl say its meh dmg

[paper light]

Everything do xD

[weak oasis]

i have seen bm with price wich its cheap with 150 ms doing lots of dmg

[paper light]

And my ping is not stable xD

[weak oasis]

others destros im eu with more than 100 ms doing top dps in world boss

[paper light]

So cant do dmg no matter what i choose xD

[weak oasis]

i use exit lag

i go from 70 to 48

[paper light]

Not what i mean xD

Cutie u dont understand me xD >.<

My wifi is 1mb + unestable

[weak oasis]

ahh well gg

[paper light]

So my ping dance between 120

And dc from going over 9999

And no is not a joke xD

So i can easily end being frozen on a boss for 3 secs even more

[weak oasis]

shadow des then purple erradicate + execute+ relentless fighter and u doo way more dmg than ur sin even with big lags

since its just build furys and tap x

[paper light]

I am working on getting a normal wifi >.<

With some luck i will be able to play the game normally soon >.<

[weak oasis]

naisu

[edgy arch]

So what purple books should we be aiming for on warlock?

[misty copper]

is there anyone know can we hold more than 3 orb for helix build?

[uneven rain]

you can't

[misty copper]

yah free outfit, but no Temptation

[uneven rain]

they're all recolours

[misty copper]

btw, is it ok for shadow build to use the left tree of rapture?

[uneven rain]

it literally does nothing for shadow

we have full english text now

the glb yast is updated

you can see for yourself

[misty copper]

welp, i saw the focus recovery and have a bad idea lol

[uneven rain]

that's what mantra is for

[shrewd ledge]

fk im so excited

let me in

[shrewd ledge]

@uneven rain

translation error?

[uneven rain]

yup

basically just

[shrewd ledge]

dimensional shot is bombardment right?

[uneven rain]

every imprison you get 8s of 1s cdr for leech every rmb

more or less

[shrewd ledge]

which soul badge are we using

rmb or dc

[uneven rain]

dc pretty sure

[shrewd ledge]

kk

[uneven rain]

rmb could be pretty close

especially in lower investment

[shrewd ledge]

cuz i remembered

both worked in live

dps were similar

[uneven rain]

no, frost

[uneven rain]

no

wb leaderboards aren't even 100% accurate

to determine whether or not a certain spec is better

yea

frost

no

frost is just better

we don't have numbers we won't for a while until glb side is able to test all that stuff

cuz kr players don't do that for us

they're close enough where you can play either one fine

just frost is better

and you can even see in this chat

that it's more popular

not many ppl, at least in this chat, are gonna play shadow

legendary helix might push shadow above frost

will have to see how it turns out

that's not a question that's gonna be available to answer until the game is up

cuz that's a market question

[valid tendon]

might be a little pricey initially depends how crazy people are gonna go on their WL

[uneven rain]

shadow then since frost is likely to be more popular

more popular = more ppl want the books = more expensive

sf doesn't exist

never heard someone call it that

interesting

anyways it's still not gonna be known until the game is up

kr prices are wildly different

even that's not gonna be good

[valid tendon]

you said sf and I thought

https://tenor.com/view/hxh-hunter-x-hunter-buda-gigante-netero-vs-metero-gif-6447330804656522171

[rancid pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQTyihiR44 wl being bottom tier rip 💀

[shrewd ledge]

play the cooler one not higher dps one @smoky gale

[primal marsh]

I can already imagine people saying they have the coolest one so they can be accepted to do the last content

[paper light]

Guys

Anyone knows if the drain from the charm and hae mujin set adds dps to wb?

Also bleeding and poison

I know it doesnt to dps meter but i am curious if it does to wb

[ornate egret]

is there any translation for that list?

[valid tendon]

WL is at the bottom in that video

[rancid pulsar]

if you can decipher this, sure LOL

[valid tendon]

that's Warlock

[rancid pulsar]

yup

[ornate egret]

i used translation too but aside from WL all the other ones are hard to tell

[pulsar gale]

what does it mean

[rancid pulsar]

i know 5th is EP sin, and 1st is bm not sure which build, the rest idk

[rancid pulsar]

class/build tier list

[valid tendon]

1st BM

6th is KFM

7th is destro

oh thats only for his list at the beginning let me see what he does to it by the end

[misty copper]

I'm really want to know what is 15th

[rancid pulsar]

clearly it's the kr exclusive class salt water blaster

[rancid pulsar]

oh it's fm blazing beam

[valid tendon]

actually I got no Idea what 15 is, they're not using class names for every tier and using build names for some instead

[rancid pulsar]

yeah it's easier to just grab what he wrote and throw it into google to see what it actually is

[valid tendon]

yea

[rancid pulsar]

ok i think 2nd place on his list is sunflower sum
3rd is wind bd
4th is ice fm

[rain tide]

Can someone help build a greenie book page of ice wl ? Or just same purp page just swap to green

[uneven rain]

yup

only skill you wouldn't be able to get is Temporal Field (C)

since it starts at blue

[ornate egret]

14 is dragontongue BM

[rain tide]

So theres not extra skill to get to compensate ?

Like an extra utility to help

[uneven rain]

.

[uneven rain]

.

[rain tide]

I meant a skill thats not even included in normal build

Purp variation

Cuz maybe not needed with purps being present and sufficient

[uneven rain]

green books is the exact same as purple

just no temporal field since it doesn't have a green variant

so again

i already gave you your answer

a few times now

[rain tide]

Thought u might misunderstood my angle but oh well

Cuz other classes have this thing

Where the better books they get they lessen utility ones one by one

For more stacks

[uneven rain]

you asked if green books is just same as purple but green

i said yes

then said, except temporal field since it starts at blue

[rain tide]

I said green books build

As in a cheapest build to start

[uneven rain]

yeah

i know

again

i said yes

[rain tide]

And yes i understood

[uneven rain]

its the same as purple, just green minus temporla field since you can't get it as a green book

so idk why you thought i misunderstood

[rain tide]

Idk why were dragging this out

Drop it

[uneven rain]

when i answered you perfectly fine

[solar summit]

guys ice or shadow which is less ping dependant ?

[ember bronze]

to y'all wl players

[misty copper]

ice i think

[stone inlet]

does anyone have a starter skill build and rotation for a new WL? if its been posted im sorry,

[shrewd ledge]

it's usable

[misty copper]

Got rapture for frost build and salvo right tree....

[finite junco]

so guys, how is the class haha

[brazen rover]

What is this ? Class change ?

[weary yoke]

where are you getting bound purples already

[uneven rain]

from saving previous ones

[ocean yew]

Sad just crap in my book chests 😦

[shrewd ledge]

yup

that attendence book

[weary yoke]

how weird that they didn't expire those

[topaz sequoia]

rate my warlock books 😄

[ember bronze]

yes

[shrewd ledge]

?????

[vale summit]

mine got purp sanctum, purp bombard focus reduction (2)

[misty copper]

Got purple mantra and pvp version of dimension salvo.. the rest not good

[brazen rover]

@ember bronze wait so we are getting class change or new character slot?

[shrewd ledge]

then u can test the meme build for me

[uneven rain]

there is no class change

there is a free char slot in the store

[brazen rover]

Ahh okay

Thanks

[distant cedar]

thang god i was patient and saved the box xD

[quick magnet]

why u have 3 skill book heroic?

[topaz sequoia]

i had 4

couse i saved them from previous events

[quick magnet]

oh i have to my alt char

[misty copper]

I got the tree one

[shrewd ledge]

mine is tempest lord

[tidal glen]

is there a good guide for warlcok ? i would like to learn class inside outim new player

[uneven rain]

I can now finally release my guide Spent the maint extension as some time to do some finishing touches on it

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yJaGg4C31Hd0DlEblrHb3pdEiM21fFFoN8appghDN0U/edit?usp=sharing

it's not perfect but it should be good enough to help everyone get a basic understanding

[tidal glen]

hey thnks friend

[misty copper]

wait. i didnt see any purple box in bp, what happen?

[uneven rain]

you get a coupon the maintenance after you finish

[misty copper]

oh its a coupon

[toxic mortar]

what were the best mystic and soul badges that we want for warlock?

[fast basalt]

WTS NA Heaven's Reach

[tribal python]

Important note, its only one per account regardless of you buying more than 1 battlepass

[bold elbow]

wts NA pmo

[weary yoke]

just from the font and images it feels like full trolling

[tacit vector]

account rewards since launch deployed, 4 rng purples, 3 rng blues and 4 blue selections 🐉

[uneven rain]

[weary yoke]

Oh and the fact that it's PowerPoint

[misty copper]

what its look like, i might try it

[shrewd ledge]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU250625"&lang="EN"&class="Warlock"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAJS2W2gAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8vWmRZ8pZFpbVzhmJeempnnkpqRUMYDHmnyhijWCxt2CKxQRC1UGoBgglsxFssG9icUlqUWVwSWJJauM2FCGw_Zn5ecUNAAS8n22NAAAA"

only one not sure is the sanctum

[distant cedar]

so shadow wl is a meme build now?

[uneven rain]

no

it's a meme build variant of shadow

[tranquil hornet]

Still work ._.

[shrewd ledge]

holy

[misty copper]

holy hell

[distant cedar]

thank god you are on moonwater

[tranquil hornet]

Ye moonwater

[distant cedar]

lets see how many people switched on cinderlands to wl on today wb

[tranquil hornet]

I still have 70k gems for the book gamba

[distant cedar]

are you forcing ice or just take whatever you get more in the end?

[tranquil hornet]

I hope ice

But i guess whatever i get

[distant cedar]

was hoping too but in the end got almost all purple shadow skills and only ice leech and thought might go shadow then xD

[tranquil hornet]

my m8 got 1x out of 30 ppl book try

I have about 80 attempts

79 blue 1ppl safe

[distant cedar]

got this with 10 purple random books

[tranquil hornet]

Damn

I'll post later what I got

[stone inlet]

Did i get lucky, i got epic rupture, helix and sanctum on the random

[uneven rain]

depends

did you want to play shadow

[stone inlet]

I mean ill go what i have stuff for lol

so seems im going shadow

[uneven rain]

then yes if they are the correct ones

[stone inlet]

yea according to your guide, helix and rupture are correct :3 thank you

[solar summit]

BRUUUHH ALREADY??? xD

gz anyways

[wintry rampart]

which build has more damage?

[fair condor]

frost i think

[distant cedar]

the one with more money

[zenith charm]

@wintry rampart frost but different between them is not big unlike other classes

for me will go shadow cuz cheaper , insta cast , no cooldown and not rely heavily on crit rate unlike ice dragon build

Tho regardless which build you choose warlock doing really bad damage wise in kr , maybe they will buff it in silverforst mountain patch

[uneven rain]

wl did get a pretty sizable buff with silverfrost patch with legendary 4 and new mystic badge

[solar summit]

not as bad as summoner at least xddd

[solar summit]

huh?

[zenith charm]

trust me destro doing worst than summoner atm xD

[uneven rain]

shadow got the better end of the stick with legendary 4

[solar summit]

low ping destro can do better dmg

[zenith charm]

@solar summit not about ping but about class design currently , base damage and scaling , also items don't count too

talk with other destro they mention damage not good and summoner even higher

tho lets hope they buff it future , after all there is good reason you rarely see any destro around xD

[solar summit]

I forget in kr everyone has low ping xd

[zenith charm]

oh yeah saw on neo kung fu master on kr pvp with 2 ms was insane lol

@solar summit forgot to mention RMB + LMB meta is dead on destro its something from past now , right now everyone and his grand mother build around execute 1 button X so class no longer ping reliant

[rustic veldt]

WTS EU

[rich meteor]

????

[brazen rover]

@tranquil hornet how did you get so many of this

[distant cedar]

check his name and then ask again xD

[zenith charm]

800 divine gems 😄

[distant cedar]

i double it^^

[brazen rover]

@distant cedar oh everything makes sense now

[cobalt thistle]

ur saying that for ice wl soulbadge we should be using bombard but u have dragoncall as icon. what are we using now ?

[uneven rain]

fixed

[rich meteor]

@zenith charm what you clowning for?

Literal misinformation

[small ore]

YEHHHH

F

[tribal python]

Funny pvp skill?

[lofty onyx]

guys what are the best crafting guilds for warlock when i wanna make it my main

[tribal python]

Depends if you want to craft accs or weapon early

Cant go wrong with soulwardens

though that can be alt ofc

[zenith charm]

because you don't understand context of what im talking about , read again the conversation carefully and you will understand it better not just this post alone , you whaling on class doesn't make it good

[paper light]

Wts NA

[native timber]

I've taken liberty to pin this (something that I always wished that would happen in the KFM thread ), if you'd like to get the pin removed for any reason just lemme know

[rich meteor]

Too bad i didn’t whale anything , ur barking at the wrong tree. If you wanna yell at whales ill side with you

[zenith charm]

im talking in general not you exactly , ( someone having strong gear doing strong damage , player skill , player ping ) =/= not equal to ( good class design , base damage , scaling , books etc ) otherwise no point of having balance devs to begin with as there is good reason destro is one of least played classes

[rich meteor]

This is very off topic, but with the bp selector we had and ridicolous prices on blue books des is clearly one of the cheaper classes as of now because you can play it in full blues + purp execute and you still do 18/20k at the very least on mujin! I don’t think summoner can do that, thats why i questioned you

[hardy dirge]

great guide

[shrewd ledge]

@uneven rain r u going to add my meme build

my friend will try it on wb tmr

[uneven rain]

won't add it in my guide but ari could pin a msg about it

ty @native timber

[pearl locust]

Any warlock guides?

[uneven rain]

pins

[pearl locust]

Okay I just saw one

[pearl locust]

Thank you!

[abstract forge]

shadow or frost for a high ping?

im thinking of frost but does it really affect like the animation cancel etc? if im playing shadow on high ping

[pearl locust]

Same question, but I got bound Dragoncall, so I guess frost it is for me

[uneven rain]

personally i think they're kinda even in terms of ping friendliness

but im not 100% certain on that

[wet pasture]

best mystic badge for warlock plz or most used ?

[abstract forge]

i see i see

[uneven rain]

pins

[abstract forge]

ty guys

[wet pasture]

my bad thx

[zenith charm]

the answer is simple destro more expensive to build compare to sum ,when i check with other destro as he had damage meter he shows they do less damage back when patch was new and people more or less have equal gear or very similar

when he start getting better gear and start stacking execute his damage rise and become better

with destro you gain only rage with purple can't get with blue , you need eradicate purple ( cuz rage only on purple ) you need ( purple explosive rage for 10 rage and 2 sec extra )

purple execute to gain more focus and ( optional but very important still ) ( c purple resistance fury gain ) ( 3 purple resistance to farm fury with your eradicte and gain focus easily while using eradcite and right mouse button combo with relenless fighter)

then either purple typhoon/storm for frenzy 3/5 sec to combo it with your execute for 30% AP

after all that you start stacking execute blue then you start doing better damage than sum

meanwhile a sum can have 1 purple sunflower and spam blue sunflower and will just do fine

tho again if you want compare 2 classes makes them go naked with just basic weapon and test them you will find destro behind until he get expensive execute build as class don't have crit rate too meanwhile sum get crit rate from lvl up which makes your building gear also awkward

[eternal snow]

for DC build we go leech mystic badge and DC soul badge right? or do we use different badges

[uneven rain]

[abstract forge]

same mystic badge i guess

or u could check the pinned build

[uneven rain]

this emoji gonna be my most used one for a while

[abstract forge]

xD

[uneven rain]

[native timber]

[cedar herald]

I'm selling a bunch of WL purple books on NA, lmk what you need. Want to trade for dragoncall as well

[trail linden]

Heyo,
For Dragon Helix warlock, does one want Leach or Hex Storm badge.

[uneven rain]

[tranquil hornet]

entmute me

[trail linden]

o, ty. sowwy

[native timber]

yu gotta make a ticket for that, but I doubt that will change anything in your case

[trail linden]

Working quickly, thank you

[tranquil hornet]

Thanks anyway, I'll just wait out my 7 days

[uneven rain]

i've had that guide ready to go for like 2 months or smthn

[tranquil hornet]

[cedar herald]

I got a lot of dupes :|

[tranquil hornet]

Which Mystic badge for ice/shadow wl?

[cedar herald]

[tranquil hornet]

[cedar herald]

are you on na

@tranquil hornet

[tranquil hornet]

no EU

[cedar herald]

damn

wait

you got FOUR dragoncalls?

[tranquil hornet]

yes

[cedar herald]

.-.

I opened 3x as many and got 0 lol

no helix either

[tranquil hornet]

i got 4x DC 1x Helix 1x Rmb shadow

an 1x Rapture

[cedar herald]

thats pretty good for 15 boxes

can sell a dragoncall and buy everything else probably

[tranquil hornet]

wts EU

[light swallow]

EU Offers

[halcyon rover]

i already did the bp when i`m gonna get my purpple ?

[tribal python]

Next maintenance

[halcyon rover]

lol really ?

[tribal python]

Yeah

[shrewd ledge]

showing off

[tribal python]

Check the battlepass post in #📯︱bns-news

[halcyon rover]

what a game

[tribal python]

When 3rd mantra slot

[paper light]

Someone buy pls NA >.<

[tribal python]

Amazing stats though

[shrewd ledge]

3 mantra doesnt exist

2 mantra is cheaper

[halcyon rover]

only one i`m missing its dragoncall

i was gonna get from bp

rip

[tranquil hornet]

WTS EU Moonwater

[lofty onyx]

i have 4 blue selectors on warlock, what skills do i take for ice build?

(i opened 7 trash purple skills kill me already pls)

[shrewd ledge]

dragoncall

[lofty onyx]

dragon call, bombard cdr, soul flare, rupture i guess no?

[shrewd ledge]

yea

[heady lynx]

isnt there supposed to be an ui element that shows you how many spectral orbs you have?

[distant cedar]

there is

https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1387418552004382740 btw shadow wl is bugged

[heady lynx]

thought i remembered there being like a small bar thingy that was just there to show the orbs

[distant cedar]

live got another ui-elment above the hp with a bar for leech duration and 3 orbs

[heady lynx]

yeaa thats probably what i was thinking of

damn why dont we have that

[shrewd ledge]

we dont have that for every class

[late falcon]

is shadow or ice better

[lofty onyx]

shadow pvp, ice pve, but shadow pve is gigachad

[analog escarp]

stop trying guys

[late falcon]

wdym gigchad, like no dmg<

[shrewd ledge]

wait shadow stacks helix no?

[analog escarp]

no

u stack rmb and then helix/call

[distant cedar]

is the rmb completely swapped or are those just unlucky crafts? xD

[analog escarp]

i dont know

it is noit my char

ask zero on moonwater

[frail vigil]

which is the highest dps build ? ice or shadow ?

[distant cedar]

if you are looking for high dps you are wrong in this channel

better look for kfm/bm or so

[frail vigil]

only for the warlock XD

[distant cedar]

money

some people say ice

some say shadow gets with legendary better

[shrewd ledge]

play whatever u think it looks cool

[distant cedar]

so who knows

[frail vigil]

i don't care about the other, just i got 2 blue skill chest selector and i was wondering which build to do

[shrewd ledge]

cuz we warlock do no dmg

[frail vigil]

at least more than summoner XD

[distant cedar]

actually nope

[frail vigil]

well.. they can't stay logged without vpn so

[late falcon]

WL underdog but without aprtz buff? ughh

[naive badge]

warlock is summoner lv dps

[shrewd ledge]

but we look great

[frail vigil]

lol

[shrewd ledge]

FANCY DRAGONS

[late falcon]

stuck at F7 lobby you mean

[shrewd ledge]

well i spend some so

[potent sleet]

how cooked is the f2p warlock experience

[sterile loom]

how much saving did this involve

whoever u are

im not eu so i cant check what main it is

[late falcon]

at least two livers and one lung

[distant cedar]

his main is zero but currently has "only" his pvp gear equipped

[sterile loom]

huh

how bout that

was expecting to see whale stats and books

but i guess they invested long term for wl release

props to u zero

[distant cedar]

dw he has as mentioned 2 sets this is his 2nd gear but i dunno him maybe he sold his pve stuff 🤷‍♂️

[misty copper]

how leveling goes you guys? i;m at 35

[shrewd ledge]

almost done story

[distant cedar]

43 and i hate the story part...

[late falcon]

lvl11 and quit when I learned WL is no dmg class.
Considering how annoying it was to play WL on live, slow, worst kit, micromanagement
it not worth it

[shrewd ledge]

no one ask you to play...

[distant cedar]

understandable not every class is for every player

[potent sleet]

you can only play wl if youre a true warlock fan tbh

[shrewd ledge]

true

[potent sleet]

i had 3 in live and im super excited to play in neo no matter how ass it is lmfao

[late falcon]

I was hoping they would at least bring dmg to table considering they were just buff slave on live

but well

[shrewd ledge]

no they werent

[naive badge]

no i choose to play shadow

even though it is weaker atm

i enjoy it more

[distant cedar]

no i meant the skill itself, i just filed a bug report

[naive badge]

what do you mean

[distant cedar]

https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1387418552004382740

would be interesting if you actually got the cdr with that version you got there 😄

[naive badge]

it feels like it

[distant cedar]

oh wait nvm I'm dumb you get both with legendary

[naive badge]

let me check

[distant cedar]

heroic is split with extra damage and one with cdr

but legendary has both anyways

[late falcon]

is legendary now easy to get? I quit when purples were 50k ...

[shrewd ledge]

ok story done, time to sleep

[distant cedar]

nope still same way

[late falcon]

and epic <

[topaz mesa]

Since I’m a bozo and I work

To anyone who is able to log in and test warlock could u tell me what the prettiest spec is? If there is one

I’m use to blade and soul where there’s specs rather than skill books

[halcyon rover]

WTS NA HEAVENS REACH

[distant cedar]

#1357802877585854635 message decide yourself

[still willow]

what are better to take from this books at first? Dragoncall x2 or some another?

[tribal python]

Depends on what the prices end up being

You can check the guides (pins) for priority

[jolly skiff]

We got a Yast for Shadow and Frost WL?

[distant cedar]

yes

[jolly skiff]

Cant find em can you send?

[distant cedar]

dont have the finished builds myself but basically ice pretty much always left side while shadow right side for 4/rmb/v/3

[upbeat fog]

any whale to stalk?

@jolly skiff 👀 u playing wl?

[distant cedar]

depends on what region you are

eu moonwater we got

[jolly skiff]

Hell ye XD

[feral oyster]

this for build frost ?

[pearl locust]

Holy

Yeah

Congrats

[feral oyster]

alright ty

[prime shale]

Latest legendary Dragon Helix:

[tribal python]

Wow

[uneven rain]

and then frost got shafted with just an extra 10% crit rate

[tribal python]

Arent crit rate buffs really strong though

[viral orchid]

is dragon helix frost or shadow?

[uneven rain]

it is until you get enough crit rate to basically be critting all the time

then the extra crit rate kinda becomes pointless and just super necessary

purple has 10%, legendary just gives and extra 10% but nothing else (except increased dmg ofc)

[uneven rain]

shadow

[primal tree]

which bombardment is best for frost?

[tribal python]

Realistically though, were not going to reach this point before weapon stacks

[uneven rain]

legendary helix actually like makes everything better for shadow, at least during siphon

[uneven rain]

cd reduction

flare should've never existed

and focus reduction is pvp

[primal tree]

ty!!

[viral orchid]

anyone got the yast build for frost?

[uneven rain]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU250625"&class="Warlock"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAL5MXGgAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8q3GRZ8pZFhYwxfwJQr2FCBpBKG4IVQuh1CGUC4Sqh1AyG8Fm-iYWl6QWVQaXJJakNm5DEQJbnZmfV9y0zNDc0MDIrGWpe1Fqah7DEqec0lSGZQGlRQU5qSxL3PNzUhhASowMDPApAQBiKCiOzgAAAA"

[viral orchid]

ty @uneven rain

[fringe kestrel]

is this on KR servers rn or something? I don't remember NA having legendary options for 4 rn.

[prime shale]

KR added it today

[fringe kestrel]

glad to know. tysm! 🙂

[uneven rain]

also new soul badge and mystic badge

soul badge buffs rupture and dragoncall/helix all in 1

[fringe kestrel]

are the newer badges better or just extra bloat?

[uneven rain]

mystic badge is all 3 mystic badges combined into 1

[uneven rain]

way better

the new mystic badge also gives more leech cdr than virtuous which means we might actually have 100% leech uptime with it

it also gives focus iirc which also means mantra book could be discarded once we get it

[hushed pollen]

whats the difference between frost and shadow? I've only been looking at the pinned guide

[uneven rain]

the skills

gameplay is the exact same more or less

[fringe kestrel]

the damaging abilities you use. frost uses dragon call and supporting skills. shadow uses helix and supporting skills.

ice is considered better for pve at purple tier, and shadow is the go to for pvp. Shadow also is fine for pve so both are viable and with the new legendary versions it looks like shadow will be better at legendary tier??? i think?

[uneven rain]

it's possible shadow will pull ahead with legendary helix

[hushed pollen]

thanks so ice it is

[pallid shadow]

which of the specs is lower investment?

[uneven rain]

only frost is available at green, shadow starts at blue

but neither are low investment friendly

[fringe kestrel]

they are both high investment. both use the same number of purples. you just go up different sides of the tree

[uneven rain]

straight up just don't function properly without purple books

[pallid shadow]

but what if it's just gonna be my fun side alt

[uneven rain]

pick another class

if you want to have a good time on wl

this is not an alt friendly class

[fringe kestrel]

then go ice probably and work the greens and whatever blue you got 🙂

[hushed pollen]

is Soulburn a name since live bns cause i only see Soul Flare, it's called Soul Flare in NEO?

[uneven rain]

yes

i refuse to call it soul flare

idk why they changed it

[prime shale]

Frost:

• better focus management thanks to Rupture
• additional crit rate and leech CD reduction from Dragon Call
• need min blue Rupture for better DC CD reduction
• need to rotate Leech and Imprison for insta DC

Shadow:

• blue book lock
• each 3 orbs == Dragon Helix so you can spam/macro 4 all the time
• need blue/purple Mantra for focus management (thanks to Rupture...)
• In next 3 months need legendary Dragon Helix to work

[tribal python]

Soul Flare sounds like Warden

(Is that what Warden calls it? Idk)

[uneven rain]

cuz it is

Soul Flare is what they called Warden's SB in live

[coral ember]

dam why is shadow gigachad build is it worse than frost

[tribal python]

That awkward moment when someone recruits for need sf on live and youre a soulfighter main

[uneven rain]

yes

[hushed pollen]

sorry this is confusing, should i go by the names or the by icons

dimensional volley is only blue and up

[uneven rain]

it's just typos

[feral oyster]

scrol again

[uneven rain]

cuz i did a lot of copy pasta

[hushed pollen]

thanks 😄 i guess you just edited it

[sharp bronze]

What are the most important skills to level and get books for atm for Warlock?

[uneven rain]

[sterile loom]

ngl thats a pretty good guide for wl good job bro

[pure wagon]

WTS NA PM OFFER

[tranquil hornet]

[fair condor]

soul badge for frost is bombard or dragoncall ?

[uneven rain]

[fair condor]

https://tenor.com/view/oiia-cat-shmoo-gif-123143715596578680

[swift hollow]

which one was the 2nd one?

[uneven rain]

awakened bombardment

[swift hollow]

ah, right 🙂

[ornate egret]

anyone tested the mystic badges to see what is better?

[uneven rain]

leech cdr

[ornate egret]

wonder why is different in KR

[uneven rain]

it's not

[ornate egret]

like the number 1 WL is using the 3 focus regen one

[uneven rain]

they run leech cdr too

if they're not they're running a unique build

[ornate egret]

hmm wondering if it works the same for both specs

[uneven rain]

it is

both run leech cdr

[ornate egret]

you in HR?

[uneven rain]

yes

[ornate egret]

gotcha gotcha

[sharp bronze]

oh didnt even know there was pins in threads!

Cheers

[weak oasis]

@uneven rain
got purple SB, dimencional volly CD red rmb and mantra but its hp 24s cd mantra with gamble and got 2 tether blades and a leech but for dragonC in bounds xD and got all the others on blue missing helix dragon sadly

[viral orchid]

so is frost better than shadow? in dps and movility?

[fringe kestrel]

frost better standing still dps. loses more dps when yo uhave to kite. shadow slightly less dps but loses much less while kiting

[uneven rain]

only 1 skill where you have to stand still

everything else has an instant cast version which, if you play properly, should pretty much always be up

[sharp bronze]

Which build do you recommend @uneven rain ... because I ended up getting purple books for both in my rng 😢

I used to do Shadow on live

[uneven rain]

the one you like

it doesn't matter in the end

[sharp bronze]

But no way to check it on ehre withouit book 😄

[uneven rain]

there are videos posted in here showing kr gameplay

[jolly skiff]

Which one is more macro friendly?

[sharp bronze]

Trying to find them in the endless scroll

[jolly skiff]

Or lets say "afk"

[uneven rain]

both

[jolly skiff]

Gotcha, ill personally go with Shadow since everyone else is going frost

[sharp bronze]

apart from me, who is also going shadow

[jolly skiff]

Besides of course Dragon Helix, what would be prio for purple book? Im just gonna aim for all blues for now

[uneven rain]

[jolly skiff]

Yeah i saw, is it based upon how you numbered it?

[uneven rain]

yes

same as my kfm guide

[sharp bronze]

I assume crit and piercing are the main focus stats?

[jolly skiff]

So Rupture would be number 2 to get i see 😮

[uneven rain]

its 3

[jolly skiff]

Hmmm u sure? Am i looking at a non updated version?

[uneven rain]

that's purple books

you said blue books

[jolly skiff]

Oh nono whenever i get a purple book what skills should i aim for first

Sorry if my wording was a bit off

Besides Dragon Helix of course

[sharp bronze]

Ruptue: Spectral Orb

[trail linden]

why does these two have different names, while all other awakened and not share same full same name?
is it something to do with leach cd badge for shadow ?

[uneven rain]

no

it's just translation errors

i mean kind of

salvo is the 3rd hit of rmb

there is volley -> charge -> salvo

awk rmb basically just counts as salvo

translation error but also not

[trail linden]

but in game the default version does not have the badge text but awakened does

[uneven rain]

cuz the badge only works on salvo

aka