Blade Dancer

[short harbor]

should ask them what GM stacks theyre at and what they're pulling

that'd give you a better idea if the build can clear (which im pre sure it can if you get more GM stacks and your stats are actually well built)

cuz this is me hitting a recovery dummy for a minute

and im like pre sure this is pre low for a minute

[upbeat radish]

im still lost from the last time lf/s was discussed, do we count the badge hit for 4lf/s metric, or just the 2 base

cuz that's 3.7 with badge 2.5 without

[short harbor]

ye idk

all i know is i just take my flicker + blade echo x3 it

and it better = my LF hits

[little minnow]

Is that with badge counting? Then that's pretty low yea

[short harbor]

ye that's with badge

if i adjust macro anymore it starts to get into some crazy eff numbers

[little minnow]

Just lf hits / fight encounter seconds
253/60 => 4.216
if with badge 4.216 * 0.666 = 2.8~ lf/second

[upbeat radish]

oh i went /68 cuz says duration 1:08

[little minnow]

Meter still keeps counting after you finish hitting dummy, so I just go based of what the person said

[little minnow]

you can gain up to like 25% dmg if your lf/s reaches 4/s
kind of strange how best way to improve your dmg is to improve your macro

[wheat atlas]

perfect macro really does make a big difference

[spice girder]

Whats a macro

[harsh minnow]

when do ppl hmb in cs, jump or spin 🤔

[spice girder]

Best at jump

[upbeat radish]

i do jump, cc/iframe/ss out of spin

[spice girder]

Shroud at spin

If u have em that is

If not just dodge

Hoping random to follow up cc is risky

[upbeat radish]

yeah if they dont cc kaari, chances are i wont bother on wintermane

u take so much dmg from the triple spin and ppl just stand on it? or run away and i dont notice

[harsh minnow]

hmm ok i had switched to spin after seeing ppl do that in some parties but i'll go back to jump

[spice girder]

Talk to them

Hmb at jump

If they can read that is...

[upbeat radish]

jump can also be followed by the aoe stun/chain hook, so hmb covers that too

[spice girder]

If not just hopes for the best

[harsh minnow]

ooh hadn't considered that

ty i can now block with confidence 🫡

[short harbor]

oh uh ye its because of bleed om

[short harbor]

ive tried many iterations on XMBC and this one is by far the best in terms of efficiency IE flicker + blade echo x3 and then lf cast/ that number

[latent seal]

Time to quit ?

[short harbor]

anything lower and i start clipping some LF's and im pre sure that's just a DPS loss

oh i gotta get thru 40 pots first

xdd

i love BNS dps being tied to ping YIPPPEEEE

[latent seal]

Dude i have 43

Finding parties for bsh2 is a pain

Feels like lot of ppl quit

?

[short harbor]

all my like actual good runs are just

i whisper people on my FL BSH2?

[latent seal]

Same

[short harbor]

the PF ones are like hit or miss

[latent seal]

If not i never find a party

[short harbor]

its either like 3/6 lbobies that dont fill fast so people leave or nobody app

and then it booms

kinda tempted to just run bsh1 spam to get thru my pots

done goof'd and didnt spam my pots early on 😭

[latent seal]

Same, but i hate how much you gotta run

[short harbor]

kinda rela kinda true

[fluid dawn]

Honestly thats pretty good dps. For reference my wind bd with gm 60 903atk 4k crit 3k cdmg 1.8k piercing is doing 56k dps on a training dummy with a 3min test you're doing almost half of that with less than half my gm. Im curious to see the kinda numbers you'll be pumping with the same level gm

[short harbor]

uhh that was a focus recovery parse for 1min just to see efficiency of macro

i think actual training dummy parse is like somewhere in the low 30's

[cinder dawn]

we're getting a purple raid book that applies ONE stack of bleed

and the Bladeguard books

[boreal plover]

this is so perfect, we get another very useful purple skill in the purple box, giving us better chance of landing something good!! /sarcasm

[boreal plover]

i'd be very excited to buy that 5k NCoin purple RNG chest when they put it up in the f10!!

• a single stack of bleed making the raid purple is so worth!! /sarcasm

[ionic patrol]

WTB PURPLE LIGHTINING FLASH: CD 25K - CINDERLANDSD

[noble tartan]

WTS Purple Wind Sever - Heavens reach DM me

[void bronze]

(EU) WTS Purple Skills: Storm Cleave

[summer apex]

prices?

[slender jay]

That Stack of bleed would amas to 2k dps +-

Since bosses regen 10k and that stops 25%

And if u keep using u can Stack it up to 5

I think it has sub 10 sec cd

So 10 k dps over all

So yea it is worth

[stuck cargo]

Was nice when F had bleed

[slender jay]

Yea

I'm wind so no bleed 😂😂

[polar eagle]

Does anyone have a list of what changes are happening to existing skills

[wheat atlas]

skill patch coming?

[polar eagle]

I keep hearing about skills being changed but idk where people are getting the info

[upbeat radish]

yast

[polar eagle]

O

[upbeat radish]

compare current na to kr

[wheat atlas]

they are going to be changed i just want to know when

[desert scroll]

use bleed lmb, you can anicancel it with severs or typhoons if you time it right

[slate acorn]

^

You can also use lmb to ani-cancel healing pots too and go right back into typhooning

[steep shore]

I see a flicker on NA at 14k. cheaper than yesterday

[short harbor]

WTB LF ADD DMG NA HR

[wide yew]

wtb heroic flicker not 14k xd

na

[harsh minnow]

what am i looking at 😆

[wheat atlas]

Not dying is the new meta

[desert scroll]

a gigachad

[slate valley]

s

Guys, any macro for light bd??

And how is the build??

[spice girder]

Light bd need purple books to make it good, if only green better go wind

[upbeat scaffold]

whata

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-scared-cat-scared-face-cat-scared-gif-5866280529321512286

[tawny crypt]

Ngl i stopped playing after the game started feeling like a 2nd job doing dailies

[boreal plover]

But that's pretty much all MMORPGs though 😭

Star Resonance turned out to be half-baked after the overhaul, so I'm waiting on Dragon Sword now while BnS acts as a temp placement

[tawny crypt]

This one felt especially tedious minus the fun

I'll admit it was fun for a bit but i think i finally burned out from doing dailies on 3 characters and the minor inconveniences of waiting for my train groups to fill as 3 bozos decide its time to lfp pvp instead of merging parties

[boreal plover]

Just play 1 character lol

I honestly don't know how you guys do 3 characters - I'm playing 1 and I'm still learning tricks and getting better everyday on my ani-cancel + PvP habits

It's really hard to push through to 900AP right now too on even a single character (it takes a lot of time and resource)

[tawny crypt]

I like hit a wall at some point where gear awakenings barely made a difference and purple books are just a dream so i started getting bored. Also doesnt help that im on foshi's server lmao

[stuck cargo]

The lack of content and progress is making the game very boring 😴

[nocturne stratus]

I wonder where all the purp severs at

[tawny crypt]

In mistx's crevices

[boreal plover]

he sold them before he went on vacation though

[cinder dawn]

anyone know what happens if you get wind charge while having electric surge? goes it overwrite it or are they two separate buffs

[boreal plover]

there's no way NC Soft can be that garbage at designing the game where wind charge overrides electric surge (or vice versa) lol

• they should be 2 separate buffs (or at least i hope so)

[harsh minnow]

this is what happens when you run with fellow poors

[cedar wadi]

Why would you not bid

[harsh minnow]

i did

i only had 17g

[cedar wadi]

Sorry mb

It happens

[harsh minnow]

it would have been trash book anyway so it'd just be spending 2000dg to get 2000dg 🙂

[cedar wadi]

If you get a good book

No lost

[harsh minnow]

let me cope ok

[cedar wadi]

I haven’t seen a purple book

[harsh minnow]

this was only my 2nd time seeing one, and i've run a lot of bbr

mostly on my alt, but funnily enough both purple drops happened on my main

[boreal plover]

Wow, congrats man! This is huge!

[copper hound]

they didn't win it

[boreal plover]

oh the fk..... i just woke up and could barely tell LOL.....

dam, the guy that won the bid is hella lucky

[wheat atlas]

Why is Flicker so expensive

I know Bleed meta is a must for soloing, but shouldnt Light BDs be prioritizing Connection over Flicker?

[harsh minnow]

the other day i was in cs with a flicker bd but i didn't see more than 1 bleed stack on the boss

had to double check to make sure i didn't hallucinate the purple flicker but yeah... idk what was going on there

[cinder dawn]

don't worry we will all be able to bleed the boss with purple raid giving 1x stack of bleed

[little minnow]

considering lfadd is usually same or even cheaper price it doesn't make much sense tbh

[boreal plover]

lil' bro that's selling the LFCDR thinks that money grow on trees LMAO

[boreal plover]

should i unequip my LFCDR to put on market for 100k just to 1-up him? 🤔

[harsh minnow]

how much gold is that even

to list

💀

[boreal plover]

oh dam, i dun even have the gold - it's 20g for a 100k listing LMAO

[harsh minnow]

same on my alt anyway

i did have more g but just fused some cards

the gold economy in this game is so atrocious. i'll never have good card sets

[boreal plover]

same bro, tryiung to get poharan card

@patent sphinx poharan solo guide when?

[dreamy terrace]

WTB Purple storm cleave c:

[fluid dawn]

Idk how people do 3 also when it takes me almost 3hrs to finish mishins. Purple trains. Blue trains. Wb. Factions. Sus.

[fluid dawn]

Look up wakawaka. He has them all

[boreal plover]

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I BEEN SAYING

[fluid dawn]

It's funny some guild mates are like wait lemme swap to my alt. They need this and that run. Im like bruh. Is your main even done with everything why tf you keep swapping characters? I got work tomorrow I can't be waiting 15 minutes just cause of character swapping back and forth between dungeons 😑

[stuck cargo]

3 hours to finish mushin 💀

[upbeat radish]

summoner pov

[boreal plover]

i know imma sound jaded/spoiled to say this, but i think we're truly experiencing 1st world problem
we all probably grew up playing MMORPGs, but games are games, so there will def be kids around
as a result.... now that we've all grown up with regular jobs, we're bound to be playing with some (not all) unemployed kids that can grind all day lol

the tragedy of growing up

😭

[fluid dawn]

3 hrs to finish everything including mushin. If i cleared mushin in 3hrs I'm done with the game lol

[stuck cargo]

I mean that is def a reason why "games don't feel as fun" because you have to be an adult and can't just spend entire days on games. But some games are just bad xD

[fluid dawn]

Don't remind me of my age and responsibilities 🥲🥲

[stuck cargo]

Oh ok u put a period so o got confused

[fluid dawn]

My bad I'm on my phone with one hand. Meant to be commas

I'm selling wind bd gear and accessories next month. If anyone interested na you can look up wakawaka. 4 severs called for and necklace but everything is up for offers and lock ins

[short harbor]

Damn what that other hand be doing doe

[desert estuary]

Someone wantin to sell a cheap Purple Storm cleave on Moonwater EU?

[fluid dawn]

Getting tattoo therapy

[tawny crypt]

The 3rd floor feels that way ngl

Those dudes need an elevator

[fluid dawn]

How much did time stream lynblade just go for? I wasn't home but guildies told me it dropped

[scarlet iris]

160k ish

163554 to be exact

[fluid dawn]

Ty

[lusty arrow]

FINALLY GUYS

[slate acorn]

Jfc

[novel bronze]

me with my 5 gubongs

[harsh minnow]

me with my 5 bay lees

[stuck cargo]

me with my random assortment of green cards

[boreal plover]

it's the weekend and the skillbook market continues to look empty

i wonder if those guys with the gold dumping fetish ran out of gold to post the books

🤔 ❓

[nocturne granite]

WTS purple storm cleave

[upbeat scaffold]

wow

[fluid dawn]

no more bots ingame to post things T~T

[distant obsidian]

That’s huge

[cinder flame]

wtb storm cleave heroic eu

[small star]

Which one? Onrish 7 or drain 6

My first purple and I want to invest it properly

[harsh minnow]

there's no way 😭

surely a 2k discount will tempt someone into buying this time...!

[patent sphinx]

They are both kind of meh nostly due to bond

5 bond is hard to fit

IMO drain tho just cuz onrush is easier to come by

And just slot it in for easy content or something

[desert scroll]

And you still need 1 or 2 more purples for those sets which are just not worth chasing

[near galleon]

anyone selling Purple wind sever or wind slash?

[harsh minnow]

send help

[small star]

The desert queens is 3 with onrush

[small star]

For She bosses I need 2, For desert queens I need 1

[patent sphinx]

3 on rush is okay i guess

Since all the other is also 3 on rush

Unless u have bug poh

In which case this wouldn’t be a question

I like life drain more just cuz it is hard to find

U could run 5 drain 3 rush 2 ap for easy content

And only swap for BSH +

For detect - drain and maybe a higher ap set

[desert scroll]

I wouldn't recommend chasing 2 more cinderlands fuse purple for a set you'd use only on "easy content" where you just don't need it

[boreal plover]

@harsh minnow bro i'm telling you man, NC Soft / BnS NEO gave gamers a new fetish - the "Gold Dumping Fetish"

there are people that would get off from seeing their gold wasted on auction fee

[nocturne granite]

WTS NA

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Severs - NA PM Price

[mellow talon]

guys what do you think about using fissure on wind build? i feel like using grand vortex slash is too much to have 2 kds

[small star]

No. I was on fissure for a while on light BD and it doesn't fit. You need the double CD now and you'll need it even more later

Megabad skill

[mellow talon]

i was asking for wind build..no light

[small star]

I know.

It fits even less on wind.

[mellow talon]

why?

grand vortex is a rotation breaker for wind..it stops your char for like 1 sec after u use it

[small star]

Fissure is slower than grand vortex

[mellow talon]

but it would add some dps i think

[small star]

It's about the same DPS ( which is negligible anyways). Unless you absolutely don't want 3 free focus and a knockdown.

Besides later bosses will just move out of the 4sec dot

But yeah for me fissure is a bunch slower unless you cancel it with Q or E

[little minnow]

Um, you realize fissure has no knockdown right
that skill should never be used for wind bd, ever

[small star]

Any BD really

[desert scroll]

Vortex will get buffed later to give back 3 wind spirits if used during wind charge

[upbeat radish]

what would you use fissure for

[cedar wadi]

shockwave build

Foshi’s favorite skill

[summer apex]

WTB LF CDR / EP: C / Storm cleave (EU)

[river sail]

hello everyone, i just rerolled to BD! any link with build? need to know the strongest one haha

[stuck cargo]

Are you rich and willing to spend lots of money stacking purple books?

[river sail]

everyone told me BD is the cheappest endgame build

[wheat atlas]

Best bang for your buck is stacking lightning flash ADD

[river sail]

wind BD is the strongest endgame build for BD?

[desert scroll]

there's no cheap endgame build anywhere in this game

[stuck cargo]

Idk how it is compared to other classes but if you're rich and stacking GM play wind. If you're getting one purple book per skill and not stacking a ton of GM play lightning

[wheat atlas]

tbh your spec will only be as strong as your gear from what I've seen so far.

[river sail]

whats is GM?

[stuck cargo]

Alright play lightning lmao

[desert scroll]

grandmaster, the points you get from dupes

[stuck cargo]

GM is grand master aka book stacking

[river sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf2C41iAIFU&t=1s

i saw this build

any video about the lighting one, i want to see

[stuck cargo]

https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1353883704673439775

[summer apex]

WTB Purple storm cleave EU

[river sail]

hello

any Lighting storm Cleve Build document or build?

[nocturne granite]

this has been shared a few times

you can swap a few skills in this though, don't use body kick or blue charged stroke - stack more Lightning flash books instead

[copper hound]

That looks nice, is there one for wind bd and bm builds?

Where is it from actually

[boreal plover]

Welcome to Hell

[slate acorn]

Welcome to help indeed

[ionic patrol]

wtb flaming scourge / sotrm cleave (cinderlands eu)

[upbeat radish]

[boreal plover]

That's a steal given that there was a Wind Sever listed for 99k before /sarcasm 🐣

[nocturne stratus]

when youre the only one that can apply 2 kd in your party. maybe think about that

[nocturne granite]

WTB purple multislash NA

[fluid dawn]

isnt that market price? 50k being average at least on my server

[upbeat radish]

doubt it sells at that price anymore, it was always 50 and under, recently 40-45

[upbeat scaffold]

wts NA

[upbeat scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZqnGUmcRnk

[nocturne granite]

does anyone else's strafe sometimes happen twice? I'll press Q and go behind the boss then flip right back to the front lol

[wheat atlas]

it sometimes happen when i E before the fissure crits

[nocturne granite]

I do not use fissure lol

I'm wind

[fluid dawn]

For na? I haven't been looking at them since I've completed getting all my books.

[azure oxide]

are you just flash stepping to the other side? in draw stance you have a teleport

[nocturne granite]

yes lol

[lost canopy]

wts purp wind sever

[ionic patrol]

wtb flaming scourge / sotrm cleave (cinderlands eu)
NEW

[latent seal]

WTS

[wheat atlas]

Another quitting BD 😭 also how much for ring

[latent seal]

Offer! I can sell for a fair price

[desert scroll]

o7

[upbeat radish]

🫡

[cedar wadi]

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Severs - NA Pm!

[vale isle]

wtb purple wind sever, eu

[stuck cargo]

✋

[copper hound]

Did you make it? You got more for other classes or build?

[stuck cargo]

I only play lightning BD so only made one for that. But I'm always willing to make more for other classes/specs if a person that knows the class wants to work with me to make one

[dapper cypress]

Anyone by chance have a +4 mystic badge here

[river sail]

wow, perfect, build i want to know that this guy is using in each thing

[latent seal]

I do

[dapper cypress]

I'm trying to see what the max rolls are for ACC/HP+Piercing/Crit+Dmg if you could show me

[night crown]

whats the price on LF CD so i can finally have a chance of seeing my rotation (i only have 12k gems i think) but all g if its more

[latent seal]

Acc 32 / HP 4558 / Piercing 43 / CR 42 / CD 39

[dapper cypress]

tyty

[latent seal]

WTS Purple Thunder Slash / Charged Stroke / Flaming Scourge and both light badges

[cedar wadi]

Why baby why, are you moving to steam Neo?

Tell me look in my eyes

Are you doing illegal stuff

[latent seal]

Wdym

We moving to ETHERIAAA!!!

[latent seal]

You dont even play anymore mf

[cedar wadi]

Yeah

Cuz I moved to etheria

Make sure you preregister for the skin

[latent seal]

Where

[cedar wadi]

Just do it on iPhone

[latent seal]

Oh

k

[cedar wadi]

Almost miss that preregister skin

[latent seal]

But

What is that skin

[cedar wadi]

Idk free skin

It’s free

[latent seal]

For whooo

[cedar wadi]

I need to take a look

After work

[fluid dawn]

As of current. Dibs on my gear 4 wind severs. All purple utility skills. True hex necklace are called for. If anyone else would like to shoot an offer on my gear ill add you to the list and depending on market price we can adjust once warlock is announced but youll be the first ill message about the gear you want. Look up wakawaka if you're interested in bd gear/wind books. Dm me with which gear you'll like

[cedar wadi]

Another quitting bd

Bd chat officially ded

[latent seal]

Ehteria chat next

[summer apex]

any bd knows the optimal amount of lightning flashes cast in a minute/30s

is 4lf/s really possible

[little minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZqnGUmcRnk

[cedar wadi]

30/200 yeah

Possible

[little minnow]

4lf/s is assuming you just hit the dummy with lmb->f and nothing else... With cleave and scourge and raid it will obviously be lower

[summer apex]

im on 18ms and every macro ive setup can get close

but not there yet

[little minnow]

Heard this fella is selling a perfect macro... Might help

[cedar wadi]

I don’t trust

Unless it’s from cavok

And cavok shared his for free

[little minnow]

Where...

[cedar wadi]

He posted it this chat before

[little minnow]

I mean he's legit, but he's also like 1 ping, you can get 4lfs by smashing your head at that ping

[cedar wadi]

He live by the server

It happens

[river sail]

i really wnat to know all this guy is using haha

[cold talon]

was blue scourge in video

[river sail]

wow, can u show what skills u lvled up too? im new in the game and have many doubts, what is the most important things to focus first?

[cedar wadi]

F, lmb, v, Z. I would do c if you have purple connection. If not do 2.

[rare shore]

do you have a link? i scrolled through all his posts but couldnt find it

[cedar wadi]

I dont, I deleted the macro too since I already quit

[rare shore]

ahh ok thank you anyways

[short harbor]

Ayo artemizu

I didn’t know you knew jie jie babo

[fluid dawn]

Not quitting. Rolling.

[short harbor]

When you go from rolling typhoons to rolling papers instead

🫣

[fluid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/elonmusk-gif-15812849364225011268

[short harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-rap-hip-hop-west-coast-crips-gif-24898891

[nocturne granite]

WTB purple multislash NA

[fluid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/serena-williams-c-walk-crips-dance-dance-gif-gif-11006891626442967565

[short harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-my-9mm-go-bang-shigure-u-shigure-shigure-ui-9mm-gif-13328213672762213132

[fluid dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-food-dance-yas-girl-gif-3700991319490306207

[harsh minnow]

none of those dancers have blades smh

[river sail]

i have 6k divine, can i make a budget version of this? without purple book, it is possible?

mystic badge and purple book i cant buy for now, too expensive

[harsh minnow]

the budget version is included on here. it plays differently and does a ton less dmg but it does exist

the big difference is without purple lf cdr you use storm cleave in between fatal blades

[latent seal]

WTS Purple Thunder Slash / Charged Stroke / Flaming Scourge and both light badges

[river sail]

why this character attacks so fast? attack speed?

[fluid dawn]

animation cancels

its a skill unlocked by only the few with the lowest ping

[river sail]

my ping is 70, how i do this?

[little minnow]

by moving countries

[river sail]

macro?

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Sever - NA PM!

[fluid dawn]

Idk im a wind bd. I haven't touched lightning. Gotta ask someone else

[little minnow]

No macro will get you that fast, move to germany to get 0 ping

[copper hound]

you can see their ping at 35 though

[fluid dawn]

Even 35 is pretty fast. The difference is almost night and day even if you had average ping around 70.

[cold talon]

yeah i set my ping to ~75 because i was testing stuff for a friend and it felt awful

~30% slower

[fluid dawn]

^

An assassin with 53ms. I was at 78ms. Was doing as much dmg as my sin when I had 100 more ap and 15 more gm than them. Ping the ultimate dps buff

[cold talon]

up to around 50 feels about the same though, for lightning anyways

[short harbor]

can confirm

that guy just does ~20% more damage than me

because he gets more casts off in a minute

than i do

with half my ping

because just strictly ping

pre sure AHK is jsut the superior macro tool comparatively to XMBC but i can't figure out where that things starts and ends otherwise maybe that gap closes a bit more

cuz on like 75-80ping with XMBC im getting like 3.1x LF casts on a recovery dummy

and im pre sure cavok gets like minimum 3.6+ and i calculated the damage diff strictly from that from a 3.1 to a 3.6 comparison

[cold talon]

yea like 3.4 while using fatal blades

[short harbor]

and then i cant actualyl count how many i cancel (cuz Q/Eing) cuz id have to sit there jorking it over a vod which cbf to with how dead this game is

but i looked at logs and minus'd out all my F casts from ZXC

and im at like a 2.6ish LF hits

💀 💩

actual hot garbage

i love ping

[little minnow]

@cold talon could you share your macro again? Someone said you shared it here before...

[cold talon]

i hadnt shared it here, but its p much just find lmb timing that works for your ping, f timing not as important as lmb timing in neo

a lot of people have trouble with f going off as early as is possible though might be ping or cpu related dont really know

and its possible to manual just cant be done by holding f and pressing lmb (at my ping anyways)

[little minnow]

Pretty tough to reach 4lf/s with a standard timing-based macro, if you're at 5 ping it doesn't matter...
But at 30+ you need to make use of the gcd which throws off things a lot,
personally using some color theory in my macro, which works for 90% of the time, just wondering how the other macro guru's are implementing theirs

[summer apex]

I made a macro for it

works at 4lf/s seamlessly

20ms

Worked on 39ms also

[wheat atlas]

i can only do 2-3lf/s 😦

[boreal plover]

i can only do 1-2....

[upbeat scaffold]

4.03f/s

its 1min

1:10 cause the bleed

trying to get 4.1

kinda hard

the higher i can go

if i change any number it will start missing

[summer apex]

4.05?

seems about right

dont think its possible to get any higher because of the gcd speed limits

[distant obsidian]

How can you see how many f/s?

[upbeat scaffold]

4.033333

[distant obsidian]

But what’s the calculation

[upbeat scaffold]

if ure using lightning flash badge

like me

360 / 3

[distant obsidian]

Ah t’s /3

[upbeat scaffold]

= 120

120 x 2

240

[distant obsidian]

240

[upbeat scaffold]

240/ 60 (time in seconds)

= 4f/s

[distant obsidian]

4

Thanks!

[upbeat scaffold]

i think this is the maximum speed

4.03 😼

[boreal plover]

bro wut

i'm on 156ping

.

[summer apex]

it can go faster

[boreal plover]

...

[summer apex]

are you adjusting to account for lmb condition

crit and noncrit have a 100ms difference

[upbeat scaffold]

hmmm

[summer apex]

to search for lmb condition

[upbeat scaffold]

it sounds like will cause mistakes

and make the program use more cpu

[summer apex]

doesn't use much resources lmao

[upbeat scaffold]

ye

[summer apex]

but you can definitely go faster if you are changing to account for lmb state

[upbeat scaffold]

dont matter i think

lmb will always be matched with the flash timing

if no flash up no lmb

[summer apex]

I haven't tested as I made a simple one last night and it was 2am

I'll add more stuff to it after work

[upbeat scaffold]

ill change

to pixel mode

i think will be the same

ill post here

[upbeat scaffold]

still the same

[summer apex]

hmm

that is probably just the cap

because of gcd on lightning flash

[upbeat scaffold]

ye

i want to see when the gcd changes

im at 2ms

but 20ms is the same

[summer apex]

ya

[upbeat scaffold]

wheres the 30ms 40ms players

[summer apex]

I tested mine with 40ms

was still 4lf/s

[upbeat scaffold]

iknow thares a huge gap beetwen 40~60

[summer apex]

autobias starts to kick in around 100

[upbeat scaffold]

no

i usualy play with 90

that sucks alot

90~120 are the same speed

i can say that

[summer apex]

they shouldn't be

because autobias starts at 90+

[upbeat scaffold]

time to sle

[latent seal]

WTS Purple Thunder Slash / Charged Stroke and both light badges

[visual tree]

Could I get some help with a list of pros and cons of wind bd vs lightning please for someone around 21/22 ping ? Playing wind currently but lightning books are soo much cheaper (purple).

Currently I have 8 blue severs stacked but not sure if its worth making the change to light as i can mever see myself affording purple severs.

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Sever - NA PM!

[summer apex]

lightning cool to play, wind cringe and gay

[wheat atlas]

Shockwave most fun

[short harbor]

WTB Purple Lightning Flash Additional Damage - NA PMO

[fluid dawn]

Wind pros - decent damage. Stacking wind severs boosts wind sever, rolling typhoon, and soaring dragon at purple. Aoe dmg. Easy to play. Less ping dependent

Cons - pve mostly. Hard to pvp with since you'll lose alot of utility skills with wind charge.

Lightning bd pro - has a budget build that does alot of damage. Fun. Versatile for pve and pvp.

Con- skill combos aren't as simple as wind bd. Ping dependent to get anicancels. Can't stack books as efficiently but isn't really needed.

[dapper cypress]

Lightning BD pro - in pvp if geared enough can fatal blade crit someone 62k (highest I've done so far)

[fluid dawn]

Someone in bamboo crit me for 83k. Fatal blade is a monster of a skill

[karmic portal]

Hey, that one bd on eu that kill me while i doing faction. You magnificent bastard, see you again sometime. - the summ that you kill with 10% hp left

[wheat atlas]

Any BD here with 3-4K crit dmg? What is the dmg multiplier?

[desert estuary]

WTB Cheap Storm Cleave Purple. EU Moonwater. Pm :P

[summer apex]

how cheap we talking

[upbeat radish]

wind sever for 25k when

[desert estuary]

18k we talkin.

[fluid dawn]

Prob when locks are out

[little minnow]

Didn't know pixel search was a thing, fixed my issue of PixelGetColor not always being accurate, gl to anyone trying to configure this

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Sever - NA PM!

[desert estuary]

Appearantly too low for ya eh?

[summer apex]

ye im not selling just wonderingprices

[river sail]

Guys, I'm having a huge problem deciding on a build, so I wanted your help because I'm having a lot of trouble finding content and tips on the internet. First of all, what I understood about the blade dancer was that there are 3 possible builds: 1-wind (which is MUCH more expensive), 2-cleaver (which completely depends on having a ping below 40 to be able to somehow, which I don't know what it is, cancel the animations of the basic attack, otherwise it's almost never possible to release the fatal skill) and 3- which is the lightning flash (which is as cheap as the cleaver and you just have to do a basic attack and keep pressing F); the latter seems to be the easiest to play and doesn't depend on ping (my ping is 75), so I believe I only have one option, which is the lightning flash, so I wanted to know if the purple skill is mandatory for it to work and if any badge is also necessary or will it simply make me stronger? I don't see almost any lightning flash videos on YouTube, they're all about cleaver or wind. I would really appreciate it if someone could help me, I started playing 4 days ago and I've already leveled up 3 characters to level 45 and I think I'm wasting time and money doing the wrong things. Thanks ❤️

[short harbor]

when wind sever doesnt buff 97% of your damage 😂

[summer apex]

watch HayperX on youtube for lightning flash additional dmg build

its more spender friendly

storm cleave is for whales only

wind can be viable but also expensive

bd isnt a cheap class

[short harbor]

tl;dr for option 3

Ping still affects it because the inherent concept of both Storm Cleave/Fatal Blade build and LF DMG both rely on the same innate principle that you want to hit as many F's as possible without cancelling the 2nd hit. I also play on similar ping and the best I can do with XMBC is about 3.2 (4 LF hits/second is the cap) because i dont have a PHD degree for AHK.

You can play on green LF DMG till about CS/BSH1 if you invest a lot into AP/stats over books

Your only struggle playing the supposed "cheaper" lightning build is that GL getting books for GM stacking or a flicker in general

[upbeat radish]

with 75ms u will be able to play storm cleave just fine, but will do less dps than someone with less ping, this applies to any build

[short harbor]

^ pre much that

[short harbor]

if you do watch this person playing on 3 ping - take his build with a grain of salt because they will be casting infinitely more than you will be at 75 ping therefore need more focus which can either be migitated via mantra stones or with fissure

if youre nowhere near his ping or CPM you will not need the extra focus gen

[boreal plover]

bro, the server is so empty right now that there's nothing to buy even if you have the cash

[fluid dawn]

Isn't it also maintence time

[upbeat scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvnB051zAb8

add dmg power

[boreal plover]

the past 2-3 days, the same pieces of Hae Mujin Bracelet were on the market - sellers can't sell because there' s no buyers

the same with Bloode Mane Gloves

the same exact pieces were repeated put on market

no one is strong enough to farm, and there's no players around to buy the ones from market

i'm looking for very speicfic stats, that's why i'm not buying the ones that had been on market for the past 2-3 weeks

i check the market every 2hrs~ ish
(yes, i'm a sweaty nerd)

[upbeat radish]

even when market has multiple bracelets, BD is always empty

idk if its bought out, or less BD running the dungeons

[boreal plover]

ok i'm glad @upbeat radish noticed the same thing too lol

i thot i was going fkin insane

[boreal plover]

it's a valid point that they could be bought out - but that means they bought it out within an hour of posting bc i chk on roughly 2hr~ intervals

[upbeat radish]

they never should've added class restriction on accesories, they're all the same stats

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[summer apex]

I play on 18ms so 4lf/s isnt an issue for me, a friend of mine who plays with 40-50 can also achieve 4lf/s with the same macro

his cpm is also 0 because he is macroing, if you mean clicks per minute

[boreal plover]

i love this lol omg xddd 😭

[fluid dawn]

It could not be selling for that exact same reason too. Looking for specific stats. Or the asking price doesnt match the stats

[boreal plover]

i'll give it benefit of the doubt and take your reasoning for now tbh (i'm trying to stay hopeful, but all signs looking a little dire right now)

[fluid dawn]

I think most people are buying out cheap acc to break them down for warlock for the bp so you can instantly craft gear. Regardless stats. The ap would help them be able to clear some dungeons to catch up

[summer apex]

how much actual dps is this

[fluid dawn]

I know a good ammount of people left but I dont think the games dead. At least for my server. We still got quite a few people partying and we can still find parties for dungeons up till about midnight pst

[short harbor]

cpm for casts per minute i guess the correct verbage was cps

[harsh minnow]

bd gear market is so pain lol hardly anything good ever shows up and it's always expensive af 😭

[summer apex]

ahhh sorry then

yeah your points are correct

[harsh minnow]

i just settled for buying bracelet with 2 mantra slots bc i was tired of waiting, and my prev bracelet didn't even have 3 skill slots

[short harbor]

if youre tlaking about gloves its the same thing happened with poh/chef

everyone ran poh cuz faster

[summer apex]

his build is economically friendlier than wind/cleave but is being enhanced by the fact that he is casting as fast as possible within game constraints

[short harbor]

everyone runs bsh2 if possible because guaranteed SS drops

[harsh minnow]

i haven't bought a glove yet bc i managed to craft one with 80 crit on it, 2nd stat is evasion but 3 skill 3 mantra so i'll just sit on it for a while...

[short harbor]

ye i think cavok mentioned up until 50ish there isnt much of a difference in terms of being able to get to 4hits per second

im on 75-80ish ping using exit lag cuz west coast 💀

[summer apex]

4lf/s is basically the hardcap but you can push it slightly faster

[short harbor]

i also cbf to figure out AHK which i think if i used AHK i could go past 3.2 but eh too muhc effort

[summer apex]

however the dps increase isn't much more than staying at a consistent 4lf/s

the actual cap is 4.06-4.1lf/s

[short harbor]

ye at a certain point even if say you could get more casts

[summer apex]

but it makes no difference

unless the fight is like 10 minutes long

[short harbor]

it might be an actual dps loss because youhave to waste globals casting focus regen

[summer apex]

its most definitely a dps loss for cleave to chase that speed

[short harbor]

oh im talking baout lf add sorry

[summer apex]

4lf/s is perfect for cleave as long as your ratios are fine

its the same principle

but yeah u have no reason to try going above

[short harbor]

idk if anyone else has tested it but im wondering if you run purple EP wiht lf add the additional focus regen from EP offsets the base damage from purple flicker

[summer apex]

its not possible for 90% of players anyways

[short harbor]

because you waste so many globals using raidand or fissure

[upbeat scaffold]

im parsing 44k

on dummy

[summer apex]

isnt blade echo focus neutral?

[summer apex]

focus recovery or normal

[short harbor]

ye but neutral is still a loss if youre in the 4hps

whereas EP is +1

[summer apex]

yeah

[upbeat scaffold]

normal

[summer apex]

I see

Good lightning players on eu dont exist and I rerolled 2 days ago so cant really compare

[short harbor]

could be ping issue but when i checked recovery parse versus normal dummy parse

[summer apex]

there is way more input lag on the normal mushin floor even when macroing

[short harbor]

i lost like .2-.4ish iirc of LF hits just strictly from macro not including ZXC

[summer apex]

because of players

[upbeat scaffold]

new kr bd rank

ill login to spec they

before merge servers

[short harbor]

so like barring the bleed effect wonder if purple EP is better for focus issues when youre throwing out that many lfs

[summer apex]

there's a wind bd doing 52k dps in cs on eu

probably 70k+ on dummy

nobody who plays lightning has equivalent to his gear or have any hands either

[summer apex]

well if you have any downtime at all for focus recovery its a dps loss

[harsh minnow]

i like the guy named M, we are definitely all M to be playing this game

[summer apex]

but it depends how much downtime vs how much less dmg epc does

flicker is better imo regardless

[short harbor]

ofc thats why im wondering it because i never had a purple EP to test it om

[summer apex]

ye

I have it but not purp lf ad

[short harbor]

i got purple CDR realized it feels like complete ass cheeks

then sold it within the hour

om

[summer apex]

cant relate

my fatal blade crits for 130k at level 46

[short harbor]

ngl my fatal blade coulda been cirtting 1million

and i wouldnt play it with how bad it felt on my ping

[upbeat scaffold]

whale

[summer apex]

no

[upbeat scaffold]

purple fatal blade

[summer apex]

low level so the cdmg is weighted much more

2k cdmg at level 46 is like 250%

[short harbor]

damn so youre saying

[summer apex]

at 50 its like 210%

[short harbor]

dont level

😂

[summer apex]

yes

if you can make up the accuracy difference

you will do more dmg at a lower level because of stat weighting

the more you level up the more stats you need to get to the same point

[harsh minnow]

everything made sense when i learned that bc i was like. crit is a fake stat wtf

but turned out i just lvled 😭

[cold talon]

someone said crit is enemy level, cdmg is your level

[summer apex]

this is most definitely not true as I can't explicitly say here because of tos

but you can see your crit value go down as you level

[cold talon]

yea but my crit chance is like 15% higher on world boss vs hae mujin

[summer apex]

yes levels make a difference but idk how, the crit chance that you have as equipped goes down per level

but there is level weighting

no idea how it works

[desert scroll]

That would lower prices and make them gain less money

[short harbor]

Depends on the market vs playerbase but other games have made it class neutral and some cases prices went up since its general purposes and some cases general purpose made it cheaper

so could swing both ways just depends

[desert scroll]

The stats % shown on profile assume same enemy lvl as you are (and for accu it's just random sh*t)

If you're higher lvl than the mob you'll have higher crit, if you're lower lvl than the mob you'll have lower crit

[summer apex]

Is this confirmed?

[desert scroll]

ye, it works the exact same way Live did

[summer apex]

Whats the scaling like per level

If you are 1 above 2 above etc

[desert scroll]

no clue for that, idk the numbers

[summer apex]

But yeah good to know

[harsh minnow]

📝

[desert scroll]

but basically at least, you will never lose crit chance by being higher lvl

attacking the same target at different lvl, higher is always better

[visual tree]

appreciated, think I may sell the severs n switch to lightning since its cheaper and apears more fun, yea I will miss the aoe but wont miss the clunky pvp, dropped stacks. I prefer fast paced specs so it could go well with my 21 ping

[fluid dawn]

Yeah if you got the ping go for it. My ping is trash is why I main wind

[visual tree]

what books would you recommend stacking? statwise my bd has 3.4k crit rate and 2.8k crit damage/866ap

[river sail]

how u guys know how many lf/s you did?

[lost canopy]

i started macroing and i feel like my macroing is not good enough idk how ya'll fixed this. tried to fix it for like 4 hrs

[short harbor]

Ignore steps 1/2 if you don't care to see efficiency of flicker to LF ratio but you should probably check for this ratio anyways to ensure your macro is consistent with animation cancelling properly or rather properly not animation cancelling too early

1. Tally up your flicker + whatever enhanced version of your flicker is (blade echo etc)
2. Take this number and multiply it by 2 (if no LF badge) by 3 (if using LF badge) - can also just use a flicker badge from what i understand badge AP does not affect any sort of GCD or animation lock/speed etc and then you take Flicker + enhanced casts and add them together to get the total number of LFs you should have (using flicker badge just makes math easier only adding no multiplication

3. Take your total number of LF hits divide it by the # of seconds parsed
   3A) LF hits / # of seconds (no LF badge)
   3B) (LF hits / # of seconds ) * .667 = LF badge

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Sever - NA PM!

[wheat atlas]

😠

[winged pecan]

Hey rats how much worth is a 66cd 64cr gloves for u ? 3 skill slots aswell

[dreamy terrace]

Hm?

[spice girder]

over 9000

[winged pecan]

Not legendary btw

Purple one

[dreamy terrace]

Any storm cleave sellers on EU?

[copper hound]

0 mantra prob 1k, 3 mantra 1.5k

[winged pecan]

Oh okay

Why does ppl value mantras so much

Ive seen their effects and its mediocre at best

[copper hound]

put some purple one on then

[boreal plover]

Because people want to min-max everything lol

[high egret]

wts

wts tae jangum

[summer apex]

eu?

[summer apex]

u still selling?

I can buy

[high egret]

NA bro

[high egret]

what the best price for this?

[summer apex]

both highrolled

idk market there

would prob be like 10-15k on eu

[winged pecan]

yes

[summer apex]

how much u want for them vro

[winged pecan]

as the guy above said

1k

since no mantra

[dapper cypress]

You still selling that earring? If so, what price you got in mind

WTS Whirling Scourge - NA Pm!

[novel bronze]

Does mantra add that much dmg though

[summer apex]

I can buy when im home

Couple hrs

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Sever - NA PM!

[vale isle]

wtb purple wind sever eu

[wheat atlas]

Upcoming BD “buffs” vs BM

[little minnow]

deserved, BD was too strong 👍

[wheat atlas]

“Yesss let’s make more BDs quit when there is already another class that can do everything but better”

[little minnow]

can BM's be a lyn? didn't think so

[wheat atlas]

Yes with mods

[desert scroll]

I still find it hilarious that a BM with 300 block will get as much bonus dmg on every DT than a BD with 6750 defense will on Fatal Blade

And they think it's fine

[little minnow]

The balance in this game is non-existant lmao, this patch doesn't change anything

[desert scroll]

Fire BM basically gets AP psyches with that, a max block roll on Poh psyche (25) is worth about the same as 7ap for DT dmg

For light BD, you need +480 def to equate 1 ap on FB

[wheat atlas]

1010 needs to make a vid on this

Dw, we can at least build acc to tickle the bosses

[desert scroll]

The ratios BD gets on FB is pretty much the same as Des rmb

But Des actually gets a relevant ratio on the big bonk

and that's on every hit for a 5hits atk

[wheat atlas]

They already hit like a truck in Beluga now I have to worry about them being unkillable

[little minnow]

If we want to be charitable, wind bd is strongest spec in the game -> only small buff -> ncsoft forgot that fatal build isn't in the same category -> small buff

[desert scroll]

It's not even a small buff for FB, the dmg numbers don't even increase enough to escape the rng range of dmg without them lmao

[little minnow]

Yea mb, 500 extra dmg each FB is actually huge buff

[desert scroll]

500 is extra generous

2k accu gives 100 and 3k def gives 180 lmao

[vale isle]

any (top) wind bds to exchange parses/counts with?

[balmy glen]

if YAST is correct, the bd "buffs" only apply to wind sever. not typhoon and wind dragon's soaring sky 😦

[wheat atlas]

[slate acorn]

Yes

[balmy glen]

it's pretty much useless on wind bd lmao

[wheat atlas]

I’m shockwave spammer

[balmy glen]

oh, then that's not bad ig

[wheat atlas]

I will be testing 400% cyclone with purp storm cleave

[balmy glen]

400% cyclone?

[wheat atlas]

Purp def spin

[balmy glen]

ahh

[upbeat radish]

can u just build a normal setup

[wheat atlas]

There’s nothing normal about me 😭

[balmy glen]

spin doesn't give anything special tho

[upbeat radish]

also i think the def is only during spin, not a lasting buff

[balmy glen]

only the purple strafe left

[wheat atlas]

Ik, but still curious if it still counts if I anicel the spin with storm cleave

[short harbor]

I mean you could just test it to see if it instantly drops or still lingers

green book gives 200%

not like you need purple to test it cuz they should function the same of receiving increased def

[upbeat radish]

i got purple def spin from lvl 50

[wheat atlas]

O right that exists

[cold talon]

it wont, doesnt snapshot

[short harbor]

then itd just be a test of if it snapshots your def on cast

well theres the answer

[cold talon]

at least fatal doesnt snapshot so i assume its the same for storm cleave

[wheat atlas]

Are there any BDs stacking DEF in KR?

[balmy glen]

the yellow ap/def insigs might be worth

[cold talon]

yeah every bd with legendary books

every book gives def so you just end up with a million def

[balmy glen]

tf

[cold talon]

lego book 680def each

[upbeat radish]

idk what this guy had but probably less books

[wheat atlas]

Leg books must be common in KR. Can’t wait to start stacking shockwaves

[desert scroll]

Holy, those 13k def equate to 27 more ap on FB dmg

[wheat atlas]

Is that good?

[desert scroll]

without counting Soulbadge, with SB it's equivalent to 21.3 ap

So like, with their ap they have 52k base dmg on FB, the 13k def make it 52.9k, or a 1.7% increase

(equivalent to a 21 ap increase with 1217 ap)

And because BM has the funny numbers, with those same stats (so not chasing any block at all, they have 845), with legendary DT (4.0 to 4.8 ap ratio), the base dmg per cast on max stacks is 5.8k, the block ratio adds 1.1k or a 19% dmg increase (equivalent to gaining 230 ap)

[wheat atlas]

That’s so insane, devs really hate us BDs 😂

[little minnow]

13k def is like 1k extra dmg per cast on legendary fatal
And considering fatal blade does 250k dmg at their gear, that's an extra 0.4% dmg increase actually

light bd is peaking yet again

[desert scroll]

The 1k is base dmg, at the same lvl as the ap ratio, you multiply it with crit and all that after

[little minnow]

hmm, but it says 'as additional damage'

[upbeat radish]

something something the additional dmg scales with your book stacks too

[desert scroll]

And for Des on execute (since they also scale with def)
base dmg from ap is 61.5k, add dmg from def is 16.9k or a 27.5% increase
And their rmb has a 6% def ratio too (almost same as leg FB's 7% kek) for a 14% dmg increase

[upbeat radish]

or at least that's what someone yapped, i havent heard of any tests done in kr

[desert scroll]

Ye, it's basically added to the ap ratio at the same lvl in the formula

that's why it's pretty easy to math out, you can ignore every other stat and just compare ap/other stat ratios

[upbeat radish]

Can BM afford to stack as high as BD

Can't compare at base value if at top end you have someone with 212 gm vs 80

[cold talon]

i believe the discussion was fully stacked lego book 13k def bd vs a bm with base block from being lvl60

so 212gm vs no gear equipped at all

[upbeat radish]

sure, but i mean on class balance comparisson need to see if our increase is bad compared to their dmg, maybe BM had lower ceiling and now got closer

if they're ahead in dmg its cooked

[short harbor]

damn so youre saying i shouldnt have gotten rid of elmersenjoyer

[upbeat radish]

if BD was top dmg and got a low increase then its fair

probably not lightning tho

[short harbor]

the real question though is does this game balance based on top end or average

[fluid dawn]

Have you seen the 24% cdmg buff that can give? That's alot of cdmg. And the crit rate gets you to almost 100%crit when it procs if you're around 3.6k crit. Some people like the mantra for the focus recovery mantra cause their macro animation cancels are fast enough to eventually hit focus issues

[fluid dawn]

3 mins

[nocturne granite]

How many GM? It’s so impossible to find books 🥹😿

[fluid dawn]

60. Im selling my books though in a month or so. Rolling warlock. Im bored of bd and not looking to stack legendary books yet.

[nocturne granite]

HMU in a month lol

[fluid dawn]

Na?

[nocturne granite]

I swapped from FM to BD

Yeah viridian

[fluid dawn]

Im gonna be putting them up for 50-60k depending on market.

4 are already called for so i got 7 left to sell

[summer apex]

you got 11 purple severs?

[fluid dawn]

Yes

[summer apex]

jesus

how much that cost in NA?

[fluid dawn]

45-60k per book. So it was within that range. Got some at 45. Some at 50 and some at 60

[river sail]

WTB

[upbeat radish]

NA/EU which badge

[nocturne granite]

WTS 2x purple flicker NA

[wheat atlas]

I offer $10

[spice girder]

I offer 11

[vale isle]

nice, whats ur ping?

[mint yew]

WTS purple lightflash cdr NA

[high egret]

WTS

[spring garnet]

WTB Whirling scourge Purple , EU mp me

[summer apex]

10k

[glacial magnet]

Guys how much Priecing must have wind BD at this content?

[summer apex]

2k

[spring garnet]

what about 8k5 ? @summer apex

[void sluice]

[WTB-EU] Purple Whirling Scourge, DM me

[spring garnet]

@summer apex ?

[summer apex]

thought you meant flaming

i dont have it

[spring garnet]

🤡 rip

[visual tree]

@summer apex yoyo , are you ingame currently? or can you add me to discord please so I can DM you? wanted to ask 1 or 2 questions after yesterdays convo if you don't mind

[summer apex]

@visual tree yo

[visual tree]

yoyo, was gonna wait to see if you was streaming today but anyway wanted to ask whats the differences between storm cleave stacking and lightning flash stacking? as I'm getting different opinions from different BD's,so scared to waste DG until I know which is better, also which is the best 2 badges to get?

[summer apex]

if you're playing lightning flash cdr you stack storm cleave, if you're playing lightning flash additional damage then you stack lf add dmg

for cdr you use fatal blade badge, for lf add dmg you get lf badge

[desert scroll]

Well if you play LF cdr you stack both LF and FB (at purple tier), with legendary you go all FB

[visual tree]

ahh ok was mainly asking because there are only green lf books so didnt know which direction to go in terms of stacking ( not thinking about purples anytime soon)

[summer apex]

what

would you stack lf books when playing fb

with legendary storm cleave your amount of fatals do not increase

if you are playing lf cdr then you are full stacking storm cleave

[desert scroll]

Because the dmg contribution of both is about the same

So with lower benefits coming from higher stacking, going into both makes it slightly better than only 1

But at leg tier FB contribution is a lot higher and stacking leg gives significantly more points making the split stacking not relevant

[desert scroll]

And it does increase FB casts, since you get a 5 stacks refund on FB crit you reach 20 stacks faster and get FB back faster

[summer apex]

no, your amount of fatal casts are not increasing because you are pressing storm cleave with legendary

with purple you don't press storm cleave at all

with legendary storm cleave you swap to a 1:1 or 1:2 ratio for better usage of surge

[desert scroll]

it increases the dmg contribution of that skill either way

you can ignore the 4th line in that case, the first 3 still apply

[summer apex]

stacking lf cdr is overpaying for a very minor dps increase

the skill is 1.5x-2x the price of purple storm cleave

[desert scroll]

I mean, stacking any is overpaying for a minor dps increase either way

we have one of the lowest stacking effectiveness of any spec

[lost canopy]

class sucks unlucky

[desert scroll]

I also never claimed it was cheaper, I only said it was the best

[lost canopy]

its prob the best, bc the higher you stack the less damage you get from it. so you prob get more dps from having both

[fluid dawn]

Before the previous maintence 73. After... 120 lol

[lost canopy]

thats what im saying the maint made my ping 30-50 higher

like kinda lame

[summer apex]

is this an NA issue

im still on 18 ping and have been for like6 weeks

[lost canopy]

prob

[summer apex]

moved server location maybe

[lost canopy]

no bc it isnt stable

[desert scroll]

maybe it's your turn to get the ddos

[fluid dawn]

They messed something up mid maintence. It's a na thing

[little minnow]

I'm actually confused why is purple cdr so expensive? when it's not even the skill that you should be stacking

[desert scroll]

because the build does not work without it so they know they can keep it high and people will cave and buy it

and optimally you do stack it as well

[visual tree]

so what would be the best route to take with a 10k dg budget for lightning spec?

[lost canopy]

get 10k more and play auto attack buils

[desert scroll]

well you can't do anything with 10k so the route is a dead end

[little minnow]

To not play light, or buy flicker (or flash add purple, but I have not seen this for 10k ever)

[desert scroll]

before purples you just stack LF

[lost canopy]

there you go

ur book is up

buy flicker stack green lf damage

gg

[desert scroll]

You can get storm cleave, raid and flaming scourge for free from the 3 blue selects and your progres ends here

[upbeat radish]

can probably buy raid and flaming for 220 gems each

[lost canopy]

you got 10k more ur up good

[little minnow]

the fug, is that NA

[lost canopy]

ye

[desert scroll]

So either save up to 30k+ for LF CDR for the biggest progress spike or spend lower amounts for lower spikes or dead end builds (lf add dmg)

[visual tree]

lol on EU btw

[little minnow]

I saw people selling flash ADD for 25k on EU...

[lost canopy]

then ur cooked

how much is flicker on eu

[little minnow]

Doesn't exist, but 10-15k, just flash add is expensive af

[lost canopy]

[upbeat radish]

that's eu rn

[little minnow]

Holy discount...

[lost canopy]

[little minnow]

Never seen prices that low yet...

[visual tree]

none for sale

[desert scroll]

people are dumping and leaving

[visual tree]

guess I am cooked considering I sold my sever books to try lightning GG's

[little minnow]

Obviously, but flash/cleave still remains high af
just add dmg has been inflated forever

[desert scroll]

and there's not many left willing to buy stuff either

[lost canopy]

play blue book cleave then

[desert scroll]

so either big whales that don't do add dmg builds, or poor af players that can't afford it either lmao

[lost canopy]

but it kinda suckss and you have focus problems so you need fissue and flaming

or you go mantra ur gear

[desert scroll]

Fissure is useless tho

[lost canopy]

for focus rec

[little minnow]

fissure is a dps loss pretty much...

[lost canopy]

a dps loss is having no focus

just ani cancel fissue with thunderslash. it isnt the worse thing ever

[desert scroll]

you'd better do 2 breeze hits and q back into draw than using fissure

[lost canopy]

but fissue+thunder is literally faster

[upbeat radish]

fissure is a lot more than 2 focus tho

[lost canopy]

you straight cancl the ani

[desert scroll]

or just have 1 focus mantra anywhere in your gear

and keep the double kd

with raid and scourge it's more than enough

[little minnow]

But that's literally 2 lost GM having them 😤

[lost canopy]

ur losing all ur dps

having no focus

[little minnow]

I don't even remember the last time I auto attacked on my BD

[desert scroll]

never happened to me after having 1 sh*tty green focus mantra

well outside of the stance dropping by itself

lmao

[little minnow]

facts, this the real reason why light bd is trash

[lost canopy]

https://medal.tv/games/blade-soul/clips/kieBQ8DcD_XuSi3vh?invite=cr-MSxuNDgsMjEzMzEzMTAz

i mean i would do it o.o you literally have zero focus problems with it

and the ani is fast

so why would you not

on blue build

[little minnow]

-2GM stacks

-KD

[lost canopy]

and the damage he gets from 2gm stacks goes to Zero

bc he will have no focus

and its faster than doing all the things mentioned above

[desert scroll]

Just get 1 mantra and use raid properly, never have focus issues

wait why do you even still have fissure with piercer

[lost canopy]

bc im too cheaqp

to take it out

LO

my kd skill is in my other belt

and i didn't remove it

so it stays

till i feel like it

[harsh minnow]

okay good to know it's not just me

[upbeat radish]

that's a thing that happens since 2016

so...

[visual tree]

ok so stack blue cleaves? had anohter bd earlier telling me to stack green lf cdr's lol, legit stunlocked on what to do at this point as I do not have DG to waste on wrong info

[lost canopy]

if you got no money

with blue cleave build

just slack lf cd

but get 1 blue cleave

[visual tree]

got you, so 1 blue cleave rest green lfcd

[upbeat radish]

idk how cheap storm cleave goes for now, but probably not worth it to buy copies

[lost canopy]

you dont stack cleaves unless ur rich

[upbeat radish]

just valor stones on lf and be miserable until purple flash

[lost canopy]

with blue build ^

[visual tree]

they are around 450 on eu

[lost canopy]

ya just buy 1, plus flaming scour

and prob use a lighting flash badge

its not bad, my alt does fine damage with blue setup

• blue raid + lf cdr green books

[visual tree]

ok cool so lightning flash soul badge, and for mystic which one?

[desert scroll]

For soul badge, LF and FB are both good if you have the mystic badge with a slight edge to FB (if you don't it's always LF)

[visual tree]

brilliant ty very much for your help guys

thought I was 100% cooked after selling all my wind books lol

[little minnow]

How is FB worth without purple cdr?

[lost canopy]

then the other stuff is up to pref, but you should def get focus manta somewhere in your gear . cause its pretty bad on focus

[little minnow]

You are, you will literally lose dps

[desert scroll]

The ap ratio on it is high enough that even with green LF you don't have enough LF casts between each FB to surpass it (and any fight downtime like Tae phase for example will give a higher edge to FB badge)

[spice girder]

You are beyond cooked, wind bd dps is the best for bd

Light bd need 3 purple at least to be good

[lost canopy]

lf lightening buff

[spice girder]

Wind only need 1

[desert scroll]

Like for virtuous it's 35% ap for LF and 920% ap for FB, or 27 LF casts needed between each FB to make it higher dmg

If you play properly you shouldn't reach that high of a number

(note casts, not hits)

[visual tree]

Is there a reason why people don't stack green flickers by the way aside from a non blue version?

[upbeat radish]

u're supposed to use more flash than flickers

cuz Z/X/C/V give flash procs

[visual tree]

ah ok

[little minnow]

98 * 35 = 3430%
4 * 920 = 3680%
Yeah you were right, even on green LF, fatal soul badge can be better

[desert scroll]

Ye, tho not by that much on a regular parse as you saw

But it can get better in real combat (tho most bosses are just dps dummies with 100% uptime too)

[little minnow]

I'm on moonwater mystic badge, so with virtuous it's for sure better to go fatal soul badge

[desert scroll]

Moonwater and virtuous mystic are worth about the same on a parse

Moonwater can even be better on maximum optimization

You can get a FB every 16s for both, but on very optimal conditions Moonwater can go slightly lower

On less than optimal conditions tho, Virtuous wins because the longer buff means you don't lose hard on having to block/dodge/kd/whatever during badge uptime

(and if they just allowed the buff to refresh it would solve all that headache for nothing lmao)

[dreamy terrace]

Aight

Who's getting the timestream weapon on EU

[summer apex]

me if I was loaded up

but I am broke as shi rn

[dreamy terrace]

gg

[summer apex]

aint got time to recharge rn either zzzzzzz

[little minnow]

Ncsoft buffing light bd? impossible

[harsh minnow]

they hate all their players but why us specifically

[short harbor]

Pro tip just have high ping don’t hit 4lf/s don’t have focus issue

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-point-finger-at-forehead-forehead-tap-head-tap-tap-forehead-gif-18599618

[short harbor]

Did you have a FB badge on or was this test without any badge

Cuz GM stacks affect your badge damage

Something like 10-12 GM stacks of CDR Vs however many you can afford for FB or ig just math it out per stack on each

[summer apex]

badge scales from AP

[short harbor]

yes i know that

If you open your in-game combat chat