Blade Dancer

[frozen timber]

OH

maybe its added into base damage

would make WAY more sense

ok

not bad

[analog dragon]

3% of acc as dmg and 4% of defense

[frozen timber]

cause the number's not low

if you take my numbers

1.5k Accuracy and 4k Defense

[analog dragon]

Fm is 4% hit and 0.26% life

[frozen timber]

+160 on defense and like + 45 on accuracy

lmfao

its just overall +200 base damage

[tawny crypt]

I dont understand a single thing what you guys are yapping about regarding defense

[frozen timber]

but if its like the stupid balls additional damage

I'm gonna end up slurring

[patent sphinx]

oh

[tawny crypt]

Tldr

[patent sphinx]

new BNS update is out in kr

[analog dragon]

In KR theyre trying to make other stats viable other than crit/ap

So theyre adding %dmg scaling based on other stats

Def, block, hp, accuracy etc

[frozen timber]

yo like

I'd rather have my skills scale with hp

?

[visual trench]

they only added it for some skills but not all of them

[analog dragon]

Only the casters scale with hp

Warlock/summ/fm

[patent sphinx]

wait

waht does lab psych do

[frozen timber]

Soulshield iirc

[patent sphinx]

make sense

top row bottom row

[frozen timber]

1-8

im ngl

0.02%

is way higher

than expected

Oh yeah there's 2 psyche

for naryu

[tawny crypt]

So which stat are we

[frozen timber]

1 for 1-4 and 1 for 5-8

Defense and Accuracy

[patent sphinx]

same as guoba card

except

[tawny crypt]

Also sin evade is diabolical

[patent sphinx]

legendary skill chest

is worth

a lot more than guoba card

[tawny crypt]

Maybe theres hope for my heartstab sin

[patent sphinx]

oh

[frozen timber]

gubong is 0.04

[patent sphinx]

highland psych is wep then?

[frozen timber]

yeah

[upbeat radish]

something doesnt add up, i guess the bonus is not on typhoon, but u use sever a lot more often than fatal blade

[analog dragon]

Yea its only on sever in Yast.

[frozen timber]

this class suck

buff please

also

I can't believe this stupid

lightning vs wind is still there

[analog dragon]

Wym

[upbeat radish]

wait

is this new

[analog dragon]

?

Whats new

[upbeat radish]

lower rate

our version, as of last patch

[analog dragon]

They nerfed bbr rates to push ppl toward higher purples

Cause ppl were just spamming bbr

[upbeat radish]

on this patch? or before

[analog dragon]

In kr?

[upbeat radish]

ya

[analog dragon]

It was a couple patches ago

[wheat atlas]

Shockwave wins

[analog dragon]

Can prob pinpoint it if you go thru the patches at the bottom

[frozen timber]

R word right there

[upbeat radish]

9% new dungeon vs 3% laby

and no more green books in new dungeon

[desert scroll]

that's not even a plus

they just removed the green book

[upbeat radish]

yeah, 9.4% rate on blue book tho

if unlucky u'll drop 1 moonwater key and go home

[desert scroll]

Tbh it's a lot of checks to fail to end up with just that, but only the fact that it's possible is such a scam

They heard us "stop putting just a key and a green book" and removed the book lmao

[nocturne stratus]

so you get something or nothing?

[nocturne stratus]

thats ass

[desert scroll]

only guaranteed drop

[patent sphinx]

NO WAY

[scarlet iris]

is everyone logged out of their purple too?

[desert scroll]

but there's 2 different 78% checks, a 50% one, a 30% one, a 13% a 9% and a 4%

which is a lot of checks to fail to end up with only a key

about 1.29%

[frozen timber]

yeah that won't happen often but it'll happen

[desert scroll]

often enough to make someone pull their hair out

[frozen timber]

Can tou check

Current bsh

Whats the % to get nothing

[desert scroll]

well soulshields are 100% on Mujin

[frozen timber]

Dont count 100% LMAO

[desert scroll]

so at least you have that

Otherwise it's 28% (TS/essence), 80% (misc everything) 20% (purp belt) and 2% (leg belt)

And 10.8% for core

[patent sphinx]

is it rly that hard

to make the new new new new new dungeon

drop blue chest man

[desert scroll]

which is about 10% to not hit any of those

[patent sphinx]

blue book is already worthless in korean

[desert scroll]

So basically, you'll be as likely to get a blue book in Shadowmoor as you are to get nothing on Mujin

Oh KR Mujin has a 50% second SS drop on top of the 100%

[upbeat radish]

@patent sphinx LOL

where our psyches at

[little quiver]

50 gold pouches

Is worth

[patent sphinx]

Oh

Oh

We lose everytime

ICANT

where is the guy who play on TW

[frozen timber]

Is their blue box

A selector

Qtf

[patent sphinx]

Don’t think so

Doesn’t look like it

It doesn’t say on it

[frozen timber]

Thank god

[patent sphinx]

UNLESS

[upbeat radish]

i'd say no but translator didnt read much from low quality

[patent sphinx]

It just

Shining martial art box

And burning box

Which is like heroic and superior

It doesn’t say selection

[upbeat radish]

and they got this instead of calico, but 🤷‍♂️

[analog dragon]

I want that

Wtf

[frozen timber]

I want that too

[analog dragon]

Rolled on wrong server fr

[patent sphinx]

That 4 psych

[frozen timber]

Whats the costume

[patent sphinx]

Is worth a lot tho

[frozen timber]

The psyches

[upbeat radish]

no costume announced for JP

[frozen timber]

Are worth over half the pass

[patent sphinx]

Those psych is not honor tho right

It is like the quest one

It had similar stat as honor

Or maybe the same ?

[frozen timber]

Honor ones

Purple inside

Y can see it

[patent sphinx]

No it is not the same

There is the purple one you get from quest

[frozen timber]

Bro theyre the same stat

[patent sphinx]

Oh that what I was wondering

If they are the same stat

[desert scroll]

nah, quest ones are lower min but same max

[frozen timber]

???

Ok well same thing

[patent sphinx]

ok

[frozen timber]

no one hits min here

[patent sphinx]

I mean even if u assume

200ncoin each

Instead

That still a lot

[frozen timber]

But thats honor

On the picture

[desert scroll]

wait no, it's honor that are lower min/same max from dungeon ones

[frozen timber]

So

[desert scroll]

idr for sure for quest ones

[frozen timber]

Bro quest and honor = same

Beluga = Dungeon

[patent sphinx]

Did we get 120 pot

[upbeat radish]

we got 50

but page says 100

[patent sphinx]

Who is designing the Battlepass

I SWEAR

like

???

[stuck cargo]

[patent sphinx]

HOW

[desert scroll]

we got element powders instead

worf

[stuck cargo]

Honestly true

[frozen timber]

WE LOSE EVERYTIME

[patent sphinx]

About to lose on attendance too

1 more hr

[desert scroll]

you think we'll get moonwater items this time ?

[upbeat radish]

the TW attendance looks pretty bad tho

hard to beat

i keep waiting for data on this thing, if its a new legendary weapon or just costume, like rates are low

0.25% from naryu, and its only party loot

[desert scroll]

The name suggests hexwood

but I wonder what's the purpose of the box

[patent sphinx]

Is it

[desert scroll]

Hexwood weaps are already tradeable right ?

[patent sphinx]

3 psych is not bad

That

Better than the 0 we will get

[upbeat radish]

ngl brain is fried so didnt add up all the weird translated names, but didnt look like it was good

[patent sphinx]

3 psych 10 primer

Forgot what else

[upbeat radish]

10 bases, so 1 primer, like previous one

[patent sphinx]

No book

Yeah

Bound blue is too sad

[patent sphinx]

Tbf

I THINK

JP player is non existent

oh

highland has a dps buff

and dunegon insiga

[tawny crypt]

Hey guys, if i get bound lightning purple on my wind bd and vice versa, what is the correct action to take

[upbeat radish]

damn JP doesnt have vod rewind? https://youtu.be/bAMLvxzjVy4 doubt she'll show attendance again, missed it

[stuck cargo]

Lol well if u don't got any other purples just sell and swap

[upbeat radish]

looks same than TW

[patent sphinx]

oh wait it is the blue psych

not honor

[upbeat radish]

there's no way we get that

[patent sphinx]

our will be this

[latent seal]

Ur not a bd, get out of here

[copper hound]

sin channel got 2 min slowmode

[desert scroll]

wait did they make the buff diaply actually not garbage

[latent seal]

Go to class channel

[copper hound]

wait dam they serious about the 2 hr

holy

[latent seal]

Damnnn

[copper hound]

nap time

[upbeat radish]

i can still see the edges i was too lazy to cover properly in paint, seen the pic around on other servers

[nocturne stratus]

another 2 hours

💀

[upbeat radish]

sin class channel has 9h slow mode

now its just crazy yapper in there

[nocturne stratus]

also no beluga then

because of maint

[latent seal]

No WB

[nocturne stratus]

yea that too

[latent seal]

Too hard to change the daily rewards

[nocturne stratus]

time to go and touch grass

[latent seal]

Full of spaghetti code

[wheat atlas]

I’m going to stack soaring falcon and 1 shot everything

[latent seal]

Dude your shockwave is waiting in the market

You should negotiate it, no one usses that build

[wheat atlas]

Hehe I will try

[latent seal]

120k a bit too much for a skill just 1 person uses

[analog dragon]

Someone bought legendary skills 100k just to dismantle

[latent seal]

Oh well

[analog dragon]

For the patch where its 10k gems + 5 pages for legendary reroll

[latent seal]

Rip Foshi </3

[upbeat radish]

mini* HMB core? lol

[steep shore]

Does anyone know the usual price of purple flicker books on NA?

[remote nebula]

last one sold for 12k last night

was up for less than 1 hr

[patent sphinx]

where my fav game

[upbeat radish]

TW up, same BP and skin than JP

[latent seal]

NA will be only cinderland psyches dw

[patent sphinx]

time to watchhot girl TW streamer

[upbeat radish]

idk what im looking at

maybe spin GM event wheel to get that new mat?

[patent sphinx]

that the MSP wheel

[upbeat radish]

ring reroll

[patent sphinx]

TW summoner

opened

legendary strike hammer

[frozen timber]

need to hoard

transformation stones

gg

[patent sphinx]

damn these tw whale can't hard carry cold storage

i wonder what they will say

can't wait for their comment

[upbeat radish]

huh

[desert scroll]

timestream ?

[upbeat radish]

no weapon update on yast yet

[desert scroll]

it is updated

[upbeat radish]

weird, doesnt show any weapon/soulshield for me

[desert scroll]

seems only base timestream was buffed

awakened and up are the same

[upbeat radish]

only BD items dont show for me, other classes are there, wtf lol

[desert scroll]

basically they wanna keep it above true hexwood lmao

since doulbe crit is easier to get now with rerolls

[upbeat radish]

nothing about that weird weapon box tho

[desert scroll]

no clue yeah

yast doesn't have an item description for it either

Shadowmoor kinda removes any point of doing the other 2 leg dungeons tho

it drops all they drop, but better

[latent seal]

Wow attendace is trash

[desert scroll]

who could have thunkethed

[upbeat radish]

should've just changed the blue psyches to purple and its aight..

[desert scroll]

care to share a screenshot ?

[latent seal]

Sucks ass like always

[desert scroll]

looks like what we should have had 1 month ago

I guess the 8 pots are ok

But I have no clue why they are so allergic to cosmetics

[frozen timber]

bro

we're

1 patch behind on this instance

[desert scroll]

Man I hate light BD, I can't even have the hope of getting a useful blue skill

that doesn't exist

[patent sphinx]

ya

the attdance feel so

1 aptch behide

[wheat atlas]

breadcrumbs

[visual trench]

nc soft giving you a reason to touch grass and skip attendance

[patent sphinx]

tw is so cooked

they r

asking for purple sever for cold storage

[upbeat radish]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-hehehe-gift-racoon-hand-gif-775074914789379772

the JP stream i was checking kept running it back, enraging at 50% hp

"learning mechanic, dont spoil the gimmick"

like it wasnt just dps issue

lol the new KR raid, they kept ressing through the enrage slams, think that's last boss, 6min timer

[patent sphinx]

close

[little minnow]

is it a 4-man or a 6-man?

[upbeat radish]

4

[little minnow]

So is this their strategy? Let tryhards clear the new dungeons for first few months, then allow it as 6-man so others can try it as well 🥲

[upbeat radish]

meanwhile someone in the party dropped both hexwood weapon and legendary ss

[patent sphinx]

would not be surprised

[upbeat radish]

depends how much difference there is between lvl 58 boss and lvl 60

naryu 4man was like 40k dps lvl 58 boss, this is about 32k lvl 60

[wheat atlas]

[elfin ember]

can i get a link for the vod for the new raid in kr pls

[upbeat radish]

https://www.youtube.com/live/uiOszNlFIyI?si=-VgroILqcExEix0O

[last kayak]

wtb lfcdr NA

[boreal plover]

hey gang, what's the exp you're at rn?
just wanna gauge if i'm pacing correctly

[patent sphinx]

Some are at 52

I think 50% into 51 if you are more casual

I’m like30% in but

I stopped doing all daily

I just do min daily

Didn’t even 100 blessing today

[boreal plover]

gotcha, this is wher e i'm at too - i'm 51@25%

just wanted to know if i'm at least keeping up bc i skipped almost a week before in the prior patch 😭

[patent sphinx]

But my god

Our purple is non existent

These WTB PURPLE SERVER people been looking everyday

Meanwhile TW just have it sitting there if you want it

[boreal plover]

@patent sphinx i feel like the NCSoft KR HQ just had a bunch of miscommunication throughout different global team and we got released this crap where we're giga nerfed up against giga buffed bosses on top of having sub-par events / sub-par assistance to help us (the player-base) effectively clear these insane content

[fading gulch]

question a virtuous soul badge with rolling typhoon that has 100 crit rate

how much can i sell that for?

theres one in market for 1900 but no 100 crit rate all yucky stats

[nocturne stratus]

2k

[fading gulch]

Ty

[timid matrix]

Why is this a thing

Can’t we just get normal + AP one

[fading gulch]

sorry to ask so much stuff is a siren earring with 100 cridt dmg 40 crit rate worth 1180 gems

im considering buying it but i dont wanna get scammed

[little minnow]

It was too easy to get high AP insignias so they split it up

[little minnow]

If you want to risk walking around with 50 crit rate true earring then yes

[fading gulch]

what would be the best thing to buy

[boreal plover]

there ain't no scamming if you're paying for an item through legit means (i.e. the auction house)

unless you're trying to say that you don't wanna overpay for something, which in this case then it depends if those are stats you feel like is important to your current needs

[little minnow]

Purple books? Psyches? I don't even know how 2x crit siren still costs this much, I've seen some go for 200-400 gems on EU at least

[fading gulch]

yeh but i wont get prple books for 2k prob

[little minnow]

Well if you were asking if that is a scam, then yes, 1.1k is overpaying it
At least on EU, NA might be whale city

[fading gulch]

yeh def not paying that thats why i was hesitant

tbh i think some of my accs are worth becoming true one

like i have a ring with 92 crit and block

and the psyche is 170 crit

yeah block sucks but i guess the psyche makes it worth to become a true or am i wrong?

[little minnow]

The psyche is pretty low-end? Only 1 low crit roll with no good 2nd substat?
I'd personally wait for a better acc, cdmg + pierce/acc/crit rate
But who am I to speak, I am running the most horrendous accessories imaginable myself

[fading gulch]

lol yeah i just didnt want to

end up doing that

but idk at this point everythign seems so expensive lol

have a ring with 92 crit rate amd 36 accuracy in my inventory too maybe thats better just no psyches to make it better

sorry the crit roll was 192

is that low?

here for more clarity

[little minnow]

I mean I personally wouldn't upgrade it... CDmg is a pretty critical roll

[fading gulch]

gotchu

well i wana buy cdmg and c rate stuff

but idk how much i should pay and what rolls i should look for

like 66+ crit rate or 92

i should probably just buy hb block

and then see what i can get with the rest of my gems

[fierce trail]

Any one notice the dmg low on skills? In My Guild they said some skills lose 1/2k on hit o.ó

[twilit dawn]

anyone want to buy?

eu

[spice girder]

I'll buy it 2k

[twilit dawn]

can sell for 4

[stuck cargo]

2k is about what I'd pay too tbh

[twilit dawn]

damn someone said it was 6k in the market for a bit

[latent seal]

Yeah I would pay 3

Not a big changer skill

[twilit dawn]

WEll its 2,5k in the market

[latent seal]

In NA? I dont see

[stuck cargo]

they said EU

[latent seal]

Oh im blind, ty

[stuck cargo]

damn someone put LFlash up on f5 for 20k hoooly

[analog dragon]

Did it get insta buy

[stuck cargo]

if it was a trade

the person who bought it def wasnt the person it was for

[analog dragon]

Was it you

[stuck cargo]

i wish

if i had the gems i would have flipped that so fast

[frozen timber]

Wtf

When im at work fk

[latent seal]

When im out, I'm always on at that time

Destiny dont want me to have LF

[cinder dawn]

stacking thunder slash is new meta in KR with the new defense stat boost

and other lies you can tell yourself before bed

[upbeat radish]

Everything adds up but I just don't get what they tried to do lol

Gains seem so 🤏

[slate inlet]

was there a trade snipe today? xD

[sick pumice]

hi guys

Anyone know how much % have when you upgrade a item to open a mantra slot?

[desert scroll]

For lightning BD it's a fcking joke

only FB got something, and it's less than what other classes can spam multiple times per second

[boreal plover]

i think 2k is a fair market price - it's only people with the extra spare money that'll pay more than 2k

thunder slash is more of a nice-to-have for LBD, not necessarily a "required" skill

[slate inlet]

TECHNICALLY speaking, you can also stack SC for MOAR FATAL BLADE DAMAGE

but at lower gear it's not worth it really xD

[analog dragon]

Why stack thunder slash

Only RMB and V got the defense dmg thing

[little minnow]

Is there a list of what effects what skill got?

[analog dragon]

https://yast.vercel.app/compare

Just choose kr 16.04 and kr 23.04

And whatever class

[little minnow]

Well looks pretty worthless, unless the effect stacks with books

Wait nvm it's broken for wind bd's, that's kind of awesome
Somehow the skill they cast 3x as often got the same buff

[analog dragon]

Its only on sever

No typhoon

[little minnow]

Makes sense since fatal has a description as well with storm cleave, but not typhoon and sever

[analog dragon]

FB is 1.5x more to balance a bit but prob still not equal

[short harbor]

9/32 - at least it wasnt another soaring

[frozen timber]

so lucky

[marble yarrow]

does stacking blue electric piercer connection any good?

[analog dragon]

No

[marble yarrow]

so lightning bd is bad for stacking? cause i cant afford to stack any purple books lol so that why wind is better?

[latent seal]

Cavok does it and he has good dps without purple books

[spring timber]

lvl50 and battlepass boxes

[latent seal]

Bru

Wtf

[upbeat radish]

🐋 stacking purples

[frozen timber]

bruh

kamisamaaa

has the whole BD market

in his inventory

LMAO

[vale isle]

wtb purple Multislash [eu] dm

[stuck cargo]

real

[latent seal]

Thanks kami for the LF

[stuck cargo]

did u get one from him 😮

[frozen timber]

damn

I didn't know

[upbeat radish]

i dont think im gonna regret it but still hurts to tap buy lmao

[frozen timber]

flipping is against the rules

LMAO

this guy bought my wind sever

[latent seal]

He posted like 3

[upbeat radish]

alright idk who's selling stuff but its making me broke pls stop

there was a whirling scourge for 10k too, and there's a sever for 46k

[latent seal]

DO IT

[upbeat radish]

out of budget, i sleep until beluga for BP book

[latent seal]

Feel u

[patent sphinx]

wait stpo

i need them

[upbeat radish]

u have lower ping, just do more dmg

[patent sphinx]

my purple whirling scourge need more sever

[upbeat radish]

havent even touched bsh training, my best CS dps has been about 14k

[patent sphinx]

CS is 25% lower than BSH training

at lv 51

[upbeat radish]

should probably hit 52 by friday or so

[patent sphinx]

with more sever at 52 should be doable for me

[frozen timber]

It's

Kamisamaa

lol

[patent sphinx]

oh

[patent sphinx]

that what that mean

he drip feeding us slowly

[upbeat radish]

[latent seal]

He's quitting ?

Or wtf

[frozen timber]

\

?

[latent seal]

He sold a bunch of LFs, now connection

Or he just gambled

Flaming Scourge

[visual trench]

he even has the shockwave market

[upbeat radish]

maybe gambled, maybe just been buying everything that gets posted, went all in on storm cleave

[visual trench]

wtffff

imagine having 50 gm

[latent seal]

Oh nvm then

[visual trench]

[analog dragon]

gambling for legendaries

[frozen timber]

he's gambling for legendary

[patent sphinx]

everyone is TW got 40+ gm

[visual trench]

Food in taiwan costs like a dollar

Makes sense

If we move to taiwan we can afford 50gm from food budget savings easily

[patent sphinx]

their wage is way lwoer

[latent seal]

You just remote work from

[patent sphinx]

ya

that the dream

[analog dragon]

At least you're upfront

[frozen timber]

I mean

I don't know the person

it's just an acquaintance

also not actually flipping

Im going for GM 24

then im stopping

[fierce trail]

any one recive the compensation coupon?

[analog dragon]

I thought you meant u were gonna buy it to flip it lol

do i cope for stat swap down the road or just sell

kinda garbage cdmg

[frozen timber]

sell angle

I mean

I would flip but Im not actually flipping

[upbeat radish]

must be strong

[fast vapor]

Hi guys, I got the Lightning Flash: Additional Damage Heroic from BP today, ist there a build around it? Cuz I only see CD reduction everywhere

[steep shore]

Used with flicker. no storm cleave. damage is pretty good just spamming RF all day and nothing else

[fast vapor]

Is it viable to use? I currently have Wind Build with only 1 Wind Sever in Blue. Is the switch worth?

[steep shore]

Yeah. stack a bunch of green additional dmg books. should perform better than a single wind sever

[upbeat radish]

only issue is that as soon as u get it its pretty much as good as it gets

purple flicker/connection helps a bit but that's it

[patent sphinx]

i mean it is good enough for BSH2 and then just sfigure out the rest alter

[fast vapor]

Thanks for the quick advice guys! I guess Ill switch out Wind Sever then. Ill put in the AD Book and some Blue Flickers, hopefully that’s enough 🙂

Also which Soul Badge would you recommend for this Build?

[patent sphinx]

WTB windsever 2k ^

LF no doubt

u r not using stovmcleve

[vocal brook]

how much % is each blue wind sever for grandmaster?

[analog dragon]

3.8

[worthy marlin]

@pastel zinc here as well maria

[slate acorn]

Me looking at people that didn't start book stacking early

[vocal brook]

i found a lightning bd whale out in the wild

[cold talon]

wheres the whale part

[analog dragon]

Purple book

[latent seal]

I dont see a whale here

[vocal brook]

double purple lf cdr? nearly 850ap. 3.5k crit

[latent seal]

Btw gj in wb!!

[vocal brook]

how are they not

[latent seal]

That's not a whale!, also he only has 1 LF

The 2 GM points are from green one

[analog dragon]

Purple stack is +6

[latent seal]

THIS IS A WHALE

[cold talon]

got 10th, i need to get stronger..

[latent seal]

I got 12th

Crit rate is a big factor ...

I started like doing 0 crits

[cold talon]

yea i had below 50% on fatal blade

[upbeat radish]

i dont really see the jump in dps yet, but long session of dummy went from 1 typhoon : 1.4 sever, to 1.15 with purple wind slash

smoother rotation with bit extra dmg i guess

feel like using gubong is a dps loss lol

[patent sphinx]

I CAN DROP BNS

[wheat atlas]

are there lyns in the game?

[patent sphinx]

uh

kind of

[wheat atlas]

i want to see

[latent seal]

wtf is thisssss tenten

The moment tenten opened

Dive bomb

Was heartbreaker

[patent sphinx]

HELP

[latent seal]

[upbeat radish]

🫡

[latent seal]

Whyyyy

Aco nooo

[upbeat radish]

idk why the dps is the same/lower when adding wind slash to the rotation

[timid matrix]

Wait alpha? cbt?

[scarlet iris]

WTB> Storm Cleave Virtous mystic badge

[frozen timber]

wind slash is a dps loss LMAOOO

im ngl that animation takes 2 years and a half

[patent sphinx]

where r these sever from

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/894212762211852339/1364842426686111804/image-20.png?ex=680b2410&is=6809d290&hm=c40222fa4c781a3ab89afc1e7b7a899aff26959239f4302d79f291c9646621ff&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=836&height=488

LF NA WHALE

[upbeat radish]

Like actually? Cuz I expect skill issue on my part but don't see the way around it, blaming purple dragon cuz I don't have it

@patent sphinx can u try 3mins with and without wind slash
#1357802770329243799 message

[patent sphinx]

i could

what u doing instead of slasher

just

3x rmb f?

[frozen timber]

no for him its a dps loss

because he has high ping

[upbeat radish]

Yeah just fill with normal combo

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-crying-tears-sad-emotional-gif-15881815

I just see the split favoring typhoon more over sever, cuz wind charge uptime, so that's why I'm guessing with purple dragon it's a bigger difference

[wheat atlas]

i made $25 todey

[patent sphinx]

im so broke

send help

[wheat atlas]

WOW

u are broke

gl fliping that 😂

[patent sphinx]

oh

im not flipping

wtf

who u think im

a dirty flipper

[wheat atlas]

oh

[patent sphinx]

need

like

1 or 2 more

[wheat atlas]

buy this shockwave for me

[patent sphinx]

@upbeat radish

i got bad news

ok i only did a min

also i play bad

finger hurt late

I hit more sever in 1 and typhoon in the other tho

Idk

You can get 10 typhoon off during that 6s vs like

Let say 3?

the crit too different to

Maybe need 3 min but

I thought it wouldn’t be this close atleast

Ok wait

Maybe the focus dummy is lower level

LOL

I was lagging

At the green dummy

[analog dragon]

Was 7% more damage to use C for me over multiple 2 minutes test. But the animation is very bad you have to be quickly back into the spam. Maybe if you have high ping its just gg

[patent sphinx]

Yes but don’t buy it

Make pusheen grab instead

Not worth the dps loss I think

Jk purple 10% crit to entire party is a lot

But

Depend on ur party I guess

If you are being carried I guess grab slave is fine

Who is a carrying you

Can they carry me too

[upbeat radish]

I'm so selling wind slash back and grabbing 3 wind severs lol

[patent sphinx]

I think they are both important

Your dmg is like

Ap x crit x 1- accuracy x skill multipler (book) x (number of time you can cast )

[upbeat radish]

It is a good book and seems it gets better when u have purple sever, but atm have no need for it I guess

[patent sphinx]

How many stack do you have

[upbeat radish]

6 gm

I think I'm getting about 1k dummy DPS per wind sever

[nocturne stratus]

u have purp wind slash right?

[upbeat radish]

Yeah

[nocturne stratus]

I just use it first to avoid dps loss

lmao

opener with slash

but idk if it will work for you

[upbeat radish]

The rotation I was doing was 2 V Z X C

[nocturne stratus]

ahh

mine is

C V X Z 2

[upbeat radish]

It does suck to open with 2 tho, but usually waiting for gubong to proc

C V could work too, long enough

And missing the free dragon u get from Z with badge

[nocturne stratus]

yeah

either you make a new rotation

[upbeat radish]

Was trying to test mw badge with no stats and I think my 50 crit DMG lightning badge is better lol

[nocturne stratus]

or sell it for sever

[analog dragon]

Depends what price u manage to sell it but thats what ive been saying.

Blue sever stacking is more dps increase than purples unless you get a good deal on them.

It puts x/2 at like maybe 3k value, c at ~5k, z at 8-10k and purple sever at like 20k max.

[somber seal]

who sellin sever at 20k

[analog dragon]

No one for now

But if all you want is %dps increase, going full blue stack is going to be better value than buying these 40-50k sever

[somber seal]

blue stack really strong

all my dreams rest on bp box

[frozen timber]

me buying these

40k severs

[analog dragon]

When youre capped out kinda only option

[frozen timber]

the other option is

gambling accessories

and I can tell you its not going well

[analog dragon]

Bottom lgds?

[frozen timber]

BD market is

[analog dragon]

You craft them with the 12 + 100g or whatever?

[frozen timber]

infintie money

hell no

[peak pivot]

interesting choice

[latent seal]

Is that Foshi?

[peak pivot]

no, a wild bd kikuu

[latent seal]

@wheat atlas there is the one taking your shockwaves

[wheat atlas]

I wish

[peak pivot]

so that build is just spam RMB ?

[latent seal]

There's a vid of foshi using it

[peak pivot]

found it

but yeah just spam RMB

nice dmg

[naive tree]

that's foshi! frfr

smirk~1

[harsh minnow]

we really need market history lmao, one listed for 6k expired yesterday y'all

[latent seal]

That skill costs between 3-5k, idk why people keep thinking they will sell it for that price

Same for scourge, people wants 20k for it. costs between 10-15k

Everybody in this server wants to overprice everything

[analog dragon]

Would be fun to see a stat of how much gold has been wasted total on expired listing since launch

[latent seal]

Ikr!

Also for a sell history or last ones sold

Like BDO does

[analog dragon]

Thatd make too much sense

[desert scroll]

don't need to look that far, Live had it

[analog dragon]

Yea thats the most confusinf

[desert scroll]

but here they directly benefit from dumb price flips

that's also why the only listing time possible is 12h

[latent seal]

That's weird this doesn't

[desert scroll]

Us being able to make informed decision isn't good for them

They directly gain money from not being able to check if a price is normal or dumb

[latent seal]

True

[analog dragon]

with purple idk if it really matters that much

[vocal brook]

better late than never i guess

[upbeat radish]

gotta be about uptime and the dragon giving 3 spirit so you spam typhoon even more, but idk

[analog dragon]

It was 2:39 and 2:49 so thats

3.12 typhoon/sec (÷2 cause badge)
1.14 sever
0.15 dragon

Vs

2.82 typhoon
1.32 sever
0.136 dragon

[boreal plover]

@patent sphinx @clever pike aren't BDs responsible for KD+grabbing the boss away from automations in CS? I might be missing some information or misinterpreted the dungeon here

[analog dragon]

I afk if a bd/destro moves the boss

[boreal plover]

Didn't someone say the automation gives defense buff to boss or something?

[analog dragon]

In live yea

Theres no mech in neo

[desert scroll]

this is neo, stuff does nothing

braindead monkeydps

[analog dragon]

U just iframe the automaton explosion and keep dpsing tbh

Theyre easy to move out of too

[desert scroll]

or a BM/des does 2 steps back taps block and goes back to dps

[analog dragon]

Had a destro that kept grabbing and insta SSing with boss while im tanking. Frustrating

[boreal plover]

Pugs still can't KD Poharan on up-kick, so makes sense they have to downgrade the mechs in dungeons 👍

[boreal plover]

Did you tell him there's no mech before starting?

[tidal turtle]

wassup bros

[desert scroll]

if they wiped everytime they forgot they'd learn to do it lmao

[tidal turtle]

can anyone tell what is way of the singin blade skill

[boreal plover]

It's kinda the information holders' fault if they don't tell teammates before starting

[tidal turtle]

i cant see this on yast skill tree

[desert scroll]

guaranteed blade echo if you don't crit for 5 consecutive hits

[analog dragon]

Well technically they would be the one with information, even if wrong info. Me i have no information i just braindead dps ignoring mech

[tidal turtle]

violet flicker is better then electric piercer for overall dps?

(with virtous badge for cleave)

[analog dragon]

I dont remember the mechs from 10 years ago

I didnt even know jumping in poharan was new until ppl said it here. My brain just assumed it was a mech back then too

[desert scroll]

piercer is better (you get infinite focus with purple piercer pretty much), especially with purple cdr LF because you need the extra stack generation

[tidal turtle]

having purple LF is huge spike for dps i guess

[desert scroll]

it's pretty much the only thing that matters

[tidal turtle]

virtous badge feels kinda weird

for cleave, its not overrides current cdr that it generates from cleave/fatal

[frozen timber]

here bd stat

[upbeat radish]

did u check your AP before and after

[frozen timber]

+12

[upbeat radish]

yeah i mean in case the system chat is wrong, like in lvl 51

[analog dragon]

o i was doing my parse right next to you

It looks slow tho

[upbeat radish]

yup, just dont feel wind slash is particularly the issue lol

[analog dragon]

Whats ur ping

[upbeat radish]

155 rn

[analog dragon]

Oh...

Ok yea thats prob why lol

It just all looks slower than when i spam

[upbeat radish]

xivalexander when

[analog dragon]

I havent found thing to fake higher ping to try dps on high ping

[upbeat radish]

i think u can use a vpn and make it route through europe lmao

[analog dragon]

Hmm true

[azure oxide]

this used to be the standard if ur used to pvp

on poh youd grab and ss out of the middle so your melee doesnt get hit by the minifreeze from ice mine

[patent sphinx]

Yeah jump is new in poh and cold storage

So it is not like they r just removing mech

And purple circle is new

[upbeat radish]

from mak bozo? i think u just didnt have a clear indication of being the target before

the undercuts are crazy

[patent sphinx]

what happened

peopel r done with blue server?

i think mak bozo chi bomb is new too

kind of

tbf i think im also going to stop buying sever

+10 is prob a fine place to stop for now

[upbeat radish]

if lvl 52 is really like +10% dmg, maybe

whatever gets u into bsh training

[spice girder]

I got purple flaming scourge from BP, should i switch to lightning? I currently have 0 GM wind sever build

[latent seal]

Damn nice !

Consider that to make light feel "good" you will need purple LF and connection

[upbeat radish]

tbh flaming scourge just gives x20 stack once

[spice girder]

Hmm, guess i will wait for purple LF and cleave then

[latent seal]

Purple cleave is not as neccessary as connection

[spice girder]

Ah ok noted

[latent seal]

LF -> Connection -> Cleave

[spice girder]

So prioritize LF and connection

[latent seal]

Yeah

[spice girder]

Thx for the info

Oh right, with 177ms, is light or wind better

[latent seal]

Wind 100%

Light is too ping dependant

[spice girder]

Figures...

[little minnow]

Wind casts more skills so it's more ping-taxing than light, but ok...

[latent seal]

I wouldn't play light with 80+ ms

[little minnow]

I wouldn't play the game at 80+ ping tbh

[spice girder]

On guide ppl can cast 6 typhoon, while i can only cast 5

[patent sphinx]

i used to be only able to od 5 but with the new update i can get 6 now afer auto gcd

[spice girder]

Its coz of my ping

[little minnow]

If you enjoy light then go ahead... But you will not be doing more damage until you get a purple LF at least

[spice girder]

3rd typhoon somehow got that delay before casting

I do enjoy light but the dps is abyssmal

[patent sphinx]

it is ok

purple selector

soon

[little minnow]

[harsh minnow]

yeah my dmg is downright depressing considering my gear, but i don't rly like how wind looks to play ~~plus the hatta hatta... i don't wanna hear that constantly 😆 ~~

[spice girder]

I wont be able to clear CS with light

I deal like 7-8k dmg on light with 780 AP

[harsh minnow]

yeah i can barely pull 12 with summ in pt 🙂

[spice girder]

I hate the enrage timer... should just make normal and hard difficulty like actual classic

[little minnow]

the ping diff is crazy tho, at 200 ping for light it's 400ms delay every lmb+f, so basically a 40% dps loss compared to 0 ping

[harsh minnow]

if my bp purple is unusable garbage i think i just quit. 3 days playing on 2 charas without getting a single blue so i can't even try to transmute my own purple, but the 2 i've gotten before were garbage anyway sooo lol

[spice girder]

It is what it is... im not from EU

Wind is the way to go for me i guess, at least i am able to deal 12k dmg with it

Barely able to clear cs

[upbeat radish]

u are running storm cleave right

8k to 12k is kinda steep

[spice girder]

Yeah i was

[patent sphinx]

i think ovi is blue only light bd

[upbeat radish]

when i swapped to wind i was doing about 9.6k on lightning, 11500~ on wind, in CS

[patent sphinx]

high ping user ^

[cold talon]

old news....

ovi purple user now

[spice girder]

The life of a high ping

But i will try light again if i got purple LF someday

My lv50 purple is flock of blade

[desert scroll]

It is even more than that because it snowballs into less stacks, less cdr, less FB casts

[latent seal]

WTB Purple Thunder Slash / Purple Flaming Scourge

[upbeat radish]

make bsh lvl 45 pls

[patent sphinx]

solo?

oh wait

it say dmg 33%

[tawny crypt]

Ngl im starting to dislike light bd just cause i do like 2k more just macroing F lol

And i dont want to play with a toggle

[latent seal]

I got an upgrade yesterday

[thorny gazelle]

i have 210ms and the change from light to wind was amazing! Wind utilises GCD really well so your skills come out way quicker than what our ping normally would let us

[patent sphinx]

The auto GCD is very noticeable on my wind bd 80 ping vs my shadow din

Playing shadow sin is so pain

I rmb F

except the f don’t come out

And then I lose like

Infinite focus

It still feel weird

When I rmb Z

Sometimes I can hit 12

I’m doing

Rmb rmb rmb z ffff rmb x3 ffff rmb x3 ffff

But sometimes the first f don’t come out

So I lose 1 on the first rotation somehow

[vocal brook]

between blue wind server stacking, crit rate or crit damage, which is the biggest contributor to dps

at any points or values

[upbeat radish]

undercutter, for cheaper than i bought

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193429164955541554/1362852649724154046/image0.gif

[analog dragon]

Would have to find out what value gives you ~3.5% dmg

[upbeat radish]

what's your crit rate at

[vocal brook]

currently

im actively working on getting crit damage psyches on my ss so thatll be going up

i just dont know what i should be working towards to get the most effective damage increase

feels like a "get a bit of everything and itll go up slowly" situation atm

[analog dragon]

there was smthing somewhere about how much each point of crit/cdmg gives in DMG value at breakpoints

Some google sheet or smthing idk

[upbeat radish]

is that with full primers?

[vocal brook]

nop. im about half done on my primers. so add around 450 or so crit onto that and thatll be what i end on

[patent sphinx]

ya it is pretty hard to say

if u ask me

i would pick crit in ur case

jsut cuz sever seem to be going down

is ur top row done

i feel like finishing top row should be most valuable

true siren top 3 + 1 line psych maybe even 2 line

2 line psych too valuable if u can hit

[vocal brook]

top isnt done no. my ring is

[upbeat radish]

yeah crit rate on wind is suffering

[vocal brook]

its so depressing not getting a typhoon crit

[upbeat radish]

that almost 21k from bug is just cuz lower crit def or got lucky i guess, down to 50some% crit 14k dps in CS, pretty criminal

[latent seal]

How much dmg i need to do in bsh1 to do bsh2?

And how much acc at lvl 52

[upbeat radish]

it was probably for lvl 45 or 50 but i guess its some sort of reference

[analog dragon]

Nah it was some google sheet in english

[upbeat radish]

how braindead is bsh training? feel like i'll probably take time to adjust to patterns and do less dps when i try

on kaari lord with ppl that run all around its a pain to do well, boss jumping around

[vocal brook]

thresher is more annoying imo

bloodmane, if u can get ur spin parry timing right all u have to really worry about is moving to avoid the robots

[analog dragon]

boss 1 pretty braindead, 1 spin to avoid every like 10seconds or smthing

boss 2 attack pattern is always the same and easy to tell too, especialy if not tanking

Just Q the spin and E the daze

[vocal brook]

this is why i really want purple whirling

30% crit on burst window will be tasty

think this is worth?

oh wait thats v

[patent sphinx]

doesn't do anything

[vocal brook]

nvm

[patent sphinx]

also

i think

[vocal brook]

thought it was c. got it mixed up

[patent sphinx]

sever stack before whriling

it is like

30% crit rate is not that useful without crit dmg or ur sever hitting harder

so u need both crit dmg and sever stack to make use of hte 30% crit rate

i have both stack and whriling now but i think i would have went for stack first

esp with blue book at that price now

even if whriling is a 10% dps increase, that like 3 sever and that cheaper

[analog dragon]

whirling was a 10% at blue sever for me

[patent sphinx]

with stack?

[analog dragon]

so yea blue stacking better until u can snag a maybe 8k whirling

No stack

[patent sphinx]

the thing with whriling also it that

it is very subjected to skill issue or boss pattern

[analog dragon]

get CCed after pressing Z and u lose the entire badge/crit

[patent sphinx]

sever atleast like

is just good

[vocal brook]

it does seem like less people are mass buying them now

hoping itll drop a bit more from 3.7k

[patent sphinx]

sever?

u mean 2.7 or 3.7

[analog dragon]

they're EU

[vocal brook]

on moonwater

[patent sphinx]

oh

NA is at 2.5

idk how

[vocal brook]

yeh aco mentioned

[patent sphinx]

it been 3 forever for us tho

like

[upbeat radish]

someone is dumping books hard

[vocal brook]

they were at 5k earlier today

[patent sphinx]

3.7 is so expensive

since ur psych is like

200

so u make less money from crafting than us

[vocal brook]

happens when every1 has the same idea and sells the same thing

[analog dragon]

Prob just stacking whales quitting

[patent sphinx]

purple selector where

[analog dragon]

in 3months

[upbeat radish]

i kinda wanted to get trolled by BP and get purple cd flash, but it just wasnt even a good book for the 2nd time, + the other 2 tradeable i opened that were also trash

[vocal brook]

do we know if its true we get random purple boxes 53-55?

from leveling

[harsh minnow]

after i burn my blessing from lvling up i'll go tap mushin floor 1 and get my bp purple which will decide my fate with this game 🙂

[upbeat radish]

wdym purple boxes from levelling

there's a purple card at 55

[analog dragon]

what.. lol

[vocal brook]

sorry

mispoke

57-60

somebody mentioned it a couple weeks back but i didnt pay it any mind

[analog dragon]

mightve been another KR event thing

[patent sphinx]

THERE

is

a selectorable purple at 60

I THINK

idk

im just

login CS POH 1 2 bug muhsin logoff

at this pont

play blue protocol

wish i can logoff faster

[analog dragon]

Just dont log on

[cedar wadi]

@patent sphinx

how to download

blue protocol

[patent sphinx]

we chat game

[cedar wadi]

oh no

[nocturne stratus]

:v

[short harbor]

ayo who got that on them

[upbeat radish]

Who wouldnt want some movement speed on their skill

Idk how big the DMG increase is

[short harbor]

300k