Blade Dancer

[patent sphinx]

Clearable

[analog dragon]

o yeah

But max gear during Raven was like early 1k i feel?

So 1.6k ap was probably for later in the game

[cedar wadi]

I remeber

[patent sphinx]

R> BSH just have 10 run achievements

[cedar wadi]

Karazan with Karazan BiS gear in WoW

[vocal brook]

im probably misremembering, i just recall people asking for like 600 more ap than the content actually needed to clear

[analog dragon]

Yeah ppl always done that

Without sites like fflogs etc

You just cant tell so

Raw metrics becomes the only thing you can gatekeep on "reliably"

[patent sphinx]

It is about better now

People atleast care about crit

[frozen timber]

we need a real dps meter

not me

[cedar wadi]

day 1

[frozen timber]

[cedar wadi]

sneak in whale groups

with high ap and crit

Purple flicker pretending Im good

[analog dragon]

and it uploads your last 5 parses on your F3

[patent sphinx]

can’t wait for people to fake parse

Just guborg soul and be like

I got 30k

[cedar wadi]

gubong soul big burst

[upbeat radish]

aoe dummies, 120k dps ez

[cedar wadi]

im at 20k/s

Gotta make it sound legit

[frozen timber]

gubong soul isn't even the highest AP multiplier for wind BDs anyways

[cedar wadi]

How I do it? Good anicancel with flicker and LF

[upbeat radish]

u lost me at good anicancel

[cedar wadi]

No soul core burst no aoe dummy

nah I actually suck

I lose couple LF here and there

[scarlet iris]

992k hp

5F

[analog dragon]

wdym?

[vocal brook]

we do need the one thats in the base game. its surprising we dont have it tbh

[cedar wadi]

I remember it being 860k last time I check the hp

Cuz I can kill it before with 1 shrine

This week I need another shrine

[vocal brook]

i was thinking about stuff earlier. the increased hp for neo. people complaining about it. then while talking to fjacama whos playing wow it dawned on me why they did it

when wow classic came out, people just literally steamrolled it. 20 years of knowledge and optimization

[frozen timber]

oh the dragon from purple sever does more dmg than gubong

[vocal brook]

if theyd given us og live hp values for neo, itd be an actual joke

[analog dragon]

Oh you mean for like a single hit parse lol

[frozen timber]

ya

[analog dragon]

I thought meant there's a better soul

[upbeat radish]

we also have a lot more ap tho

[analog dragon]

Also wtf

[frozen timber]

theres also a better soul though

LOL

[scarlet iris]

is it worth to rerolll

[cedar wadi]

I gotta time my fatal strike with gubong explosion then

Not at all

[analog dragon]

we can get these bottom ones already?

[frozen timber]

iirc everyone switching to the Highland soul

no

[cedar wadi]

No

you can save the box

[vocal brook]

we do, but its all relative. even with increased ap, we still dont clear things as easily as og launch

[cedar wadi]

for next week

[analog dragon]

cause they added AP to every core right

[frozen timber]

yeah

[analog dragon]

You trade like 6000% AP attack for a 27k hp shield

[frozen timber]

gubong rip

[analog dragon]

or 7300 from Hae Mujin

[frozen timber]

might as well link the rest

[analog dragon]

Gubong sucks so much cause of the time to activate too

the rests all weaker than gubong

[frozen timber]

bruh

people were saying

don't use obliterate on Warlock

[cedar wadi]

Now

[frozen timber]

cause no one's gonna get hit

[cedar wadi]

summoner

[frozen timber]

but ppl still get hit by gubong LMAO

[cedar wadi]

if you dont have hammer def reduction

and this Viceroy fiend

Im gate keeping yall out

[frozen timber]

Im already gatekeeping them

[upbeat radish]

isnt poh core pretty fast

what u're saying is all the cores will give +45 ap?

[analog dragon]

Yes all core give same AP as gubong

So no need to wait that dumb 5 seconds anymore or whatever

[cedar wadi]

Gubong give additional tho

10 second burst

[analog dragon]

No after patch they all have same AP buff pretty sure. So the only diff is whatever effect they do

[cedar wadi]

oh

cuz they removed party buff?

[patent sphinx]

I run poh soul cuz these people can’t triple cc

[analog dragon]

Uhh not sure if its correlated to party buff

[cedar wadi]

whats the point of gubong then

[upbeat radish]

u can forget about him now

[analog dragon]

[frozen timber]

wait

we getting that next patch?

[cedar wadi]

will tae jae

[analog dragon]

Idk if next patch

[cedar wadi]

give passive ap too?

[analog dragon]

I just meant after "that" patch

[cedar wadi]

or that just become the worst Soul core

cuz I like that passive rn

[analog dragon]

i think Tae/Mane still dont give AP?

Since you have no active

[cedar wadi]

im doomed

[upbeat radish]

but u have a +30 evasion roll

big

[cedar wadi]

I disenchanted all my greens

and I got blue Tae Soul Core

[analog dragon]

its okay im still on green gubong cause i have yet to make a blue one

[cedar wadi]

actually, I didnt get it

but I couldnt accept that I didnt get it

[analog dragon]

time to get these

[cedar wadi]

So I bought the cheapst blue core

and pretend I got it

crap.. 30 mins over my sleep time

good night again

only 7 hrs sleep left

[frozen timber]

7k lowkey good price

just need 4 more

[analog dragon]

Everytime you say something is a good price, I'm suspecting you're the one selling

[scarlet iris]

caught

[analog dragon]

for the legendary core

[frozen timber]

no

i'm not lucky enough

for purples

[scarlet iris]

do i keep grinding or this is good enough?

[frozen timber]

keep grinding

[analog dragon]

Grind until 30 ap all category

[scarlet iris]

crazyyy

[frozen timber]

thats not possible

[upbeat radish]

tf

[frozen timber]

LMAO

Yellow is 16

[scarlet iris]

YALL WANT ME DEAD

[frozen timber]

and blue is 20

red is 40 though

[upbeat radish]

i only ever get common insignia chests from mushin drops

[analog dragon]

max?

[frozen timber]

yeah

purple

yellow is leigt

1 2 3 4

LMAO

[analog dragon]

purple yellow is just 4?

[frozen timber]

Blue is 2 3 4 5

[analog dragon]

ew

what about special

[scarlet iris]

is there a way to check drop possibility for mushin?

[frozen timber]

uh

5 7 13 20?

[analog dragon]

so 80

so like what

156ap from insignia possible?

[upbeat radish]

63 special, 20 blue, 16 yellow, 40 red

[frozen timber]

I actually dont know what purple special is

[upbeat radish]

pretty sure its 21 but not in game rn

[analog dragon]

oh yeah u can just check un-owned lol

[frozen timber]

oh not bad then

139

[analog dragon]

oh puirple is 3x

[frozen timber]

please blue book, give me wind sever, I will sacrifice tenten for you

nvm stacking plan put on hold

[scarlet iris]

its the cheapest rn 3k in ah

[frozen timber]

I ain't stacking 3ks

im trying to save for post-patch

[scarlet iris]

ill switch to wind once i get wind server from blue box lel

[frozen timber]

wait

do they have

legendary insignias

in kr

[analog dragon]

Guess no testing purple sever

[vocal brook]

how come?

[analog dragon]

Aspirins entered the market

Think he bought purple sever + bunch of the blue ones

[frozen timber]

wtf

who's aspirins

[analog dragon]

He was spamming chat for purple wind sever and he had like 4 open spot in his accessories

[frozen timber]

not another whale

[analog dragon]

now suddenly full accessories and 20 GM

3 of the 3k severs are gone and the purple is gone

[frozen timber]

bro too many wind bd whales

[patent sphinx]

another whale ?

bruh

[frozen timber]

this guy next

[analog dragon]

tenten 48 wind sever GM when

[patent sphinx]

i am a relatable f2p actually

[frozen timber]

?

free 2 pay?

[patent sphinx]

?

force 2 play

[analog dragon]

Forced 2 pay

[frozen timber]

U can pay for it after all the spicy pics u took

[patent sphinx]

i mean i can pay for it regardless it is a tax write off cuz i stream

[frozen timber]

Rat move

[tawny crypt]

tenten onlyrats page?

[analog dragon]

[tawny crypt]

😳

[patent sphinx]

I KEEP

FORGETTING TO ACCEPT THE daily

[analog dragon]

[patent sphinx]

do i redo it

[analog dragon]

Yes

[novel bronze]

1200 messages now

[patent sphinx]

im on my alt

help

[tawny crypt]

ask the global chat sins in-game

[vocal brook]

we have the big yap here

[patent sphinx]

18 min on my alt 15 min on my main

[frozen timber]

Thats still faster than me

8 mins main 25 mins alt

[scarlet iris]

8mins main....

[analog dragon]

9min main

infinite alt

[scarlet iris]

..this my new record

[analog dragon]

my pr junghado is like 44 seconds so far

He doesnt do mechs anymore

[patent sphinx]

u r not even a blade dancer

[thorny gazelle]

theres a traitor among us

[analog dragon]

Dont discriminate a fellow rat

[scarlet iris]

wahhhhh

imposter why u in here

[novel sapphire]

sjeez alrdy 1250 msgs in here... Good mornin' !

[analog dragon]

Now this is a real traitor... rerolled to a non-rat

uhh i either tank them or spin parry them

[patent sphinx]

where is the traitor who play on TW server

hongmoon block

[novel sapphire]

Ohhh lord... Just woke up.. ❤️

[patent sphinx]

WAIT U REROLLED

[novel sapphire]

OMFG XDD

Rerolled to kfm 🥲 XD

ITS NOT A BIG DEAL GUYS

IM NOT BETRAYING U 🥲

[quasi wagon]

https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1357802542725075285

[novel sapphire]

Hahaahahha

[quasi wagon]

Just kidding ofc

[novel sapphire]

@patent sphinx cmon Bro, stand on my side 🥲 hahaha

[slender jay]

Selling purple LF cd reduction 😅 cinderlands. Eu

[timid matrix]

Im still BD though 👀

[patent sphinx]

Can you post the attendance rewards

[analog dragon]

Purple book selector

[timid matrix]

Will do in like 2 hrs from now im at work but iirc it’s the same, the sad part is the first pass that we get is the one that already nerf we barely got any gold from it (like 25 - 40 gold i got 27) first pass price is 1.2k second is 2.4k

[tawny crypt]

i want to make a 2nd alt, what classes can i play that wont cost me anything

destroyer?

[patent sphinx]

BM

[tawny crypt]

2nd chance of bd with purple wind sever from purple box at 50

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-damn-bro-daamn-that-was-obvious-realising-gif-24880382

[novel sapphire]

[novel bronze]

I wonder who keeps selling forgekeep boxes in moonwater, prices crashing these 2 days

[cyan dome]

Hey whats the best way to get Special insignias? ;>

[timid matrix]

@patent sphinx

[novel sapphire]

TROOPER MASK, WOW

[timid matrix]

My bad i have amnesia i thought it's the same

[frozen timber]

thats so far off same looking attendance its crazy LMAO

[slender jay]

any 1 know whats the tax on marketplace ?

[frozen timber]

8%

[cedar wadi]

Same class as ur main, just dump garbo you don’t need to alt

[slender jay]

Wtb Lightning flash aditional dmg

[novel bronze]

god damn noush

[weary stone]

Wtb purple books - Electric pierce connection, Lightning flash additional damage and storm cleave. i am from Eu cinderlands c:

[patent sphinx]

why do i feel like this look way beetter than na

[cedar wadi]

That’s TW server pass?

Can I migrate my account over

[hybrid bison]

what is that price? (eu moonwater)

[patent sphinx]

Their Battlepass in the same except with more gold

[patent sphinx]

Cheap

[cedar wadi]

[patent sphinx]

Buy it

[cedar wadi]

Hmmm I want to buy that

But Im at work

[latent seal]

Ur not on EU

[patent sphinx]

You are not even on EU

[cedar wadi]

Sht that’s eu

I need a cross server auction house

With player lost, we can start merging servers

Merge cinderland to us, no moonwater, they still under attack

[upbeat radish]

??? Are those moonwater bases? And u get cosmetic? Why are we getting !fucked

[cedar wadi]

Moonwater base I believe, 1 primer only but at least usable

But that mask

I want so bad

Im using body guard set now

I just need a good mask

[patent sphinx]

i mean they goot moonwater item

and we got ciderland item

HELP

ROWENNNNNNNN

i asked them too but they didn't respose to me

[timid matrix]

Seem about right

😂

I forget that we dont have delay anymore

[patent sphinx]

this is what KR got on their moonwater patch? https://bns.plaync.com/board/neonews/view?articleId=67333f91828cb5076baafd9a

[timid matrix]

So TW is just that but upside down

[cedar wadi]

Hahaha

TW devs are smart enough to copy the right stuff over

[latent seal]

@patent sphinx Nice F2P prog video, you start saying you spent 60$ Logic

[cedar wadi]

That 60

Is for your nostalgic

Not for Bns Neo

What’s stable dg farm now.

I need to save up for a purple Lf

[latent seal]

add dmg?

[cedar wadi]

Does add damage purple create electric surge?

[latent seal]

Yes

[cedar wadi]

Which one is cheaper?

I take the cheaper one

[latent seal]

Add dmg

[cedar wadi]

Ok yeah add damage then

[latent seal]

Ur cheapo

[cedar wadi]

Broke now

No budget for Bns Neo this month

[wheat atlas]

Guys, I don’t think I’m going to make it to 800ap 3K crit by next patch. My only hope now is to swipe, good thing NcSoft was being thoughtful for players like me leaving us this option 😢

[cedar wadi]

Can accept donation tho. How to setup those donation website

I gotta set one up

[upbeat radish]

Uh I dont think it adds surge

[cedar wadi]

[latent seal]

It's ok, you dont have to do new content day 1

[cedar wadi]

Farm poharan, get a hair and sell it

Then you can buy bsh bis and farm bsh

[wheat atlas]

Let’s suffer together Oliver 😭

[latent seal]

Oh no, you suffer alone, I'm close to 5k CC and 800ap

[frozen timber]

whale

[latent seal]

I wish

[slender jay]

any 1 selling lf aditional dmg ?

[novel sapphire]

No worries, I'm lvling my new main tonight.. He'll prob. have only 750ap or more dunno, when I reach 45.. We have enough time ❤️

[wheat atlas]

I keep failing my necklace upgrade and my mats go down the drain

[cedar wadi]

Wut

You are no longer Bd?

[frozen timber]

he's not whale enough to play wind

[novel sapphire]

since 5days or smth.
Sold my bd stuff and invested these 70-80k dg into kfm

[novel sapphire]

Liar Hahaha

[cedar wadi]

Well yeah Im kfm in live too

[latent seal]

Wow, nice swap High risk low rewards. Smart move

[distant obsidian]

Spinning rats❤️

[distant obsidian]

Fr?!

[desert scroll]

Why do 5 different people suddenly want to buy add dmg LF

[novel sapphire]

Idc about the divinegems etc. I just wanna try something complete new for me. Haven't played kfm in live, only bd etc

[latent seal]

Tbh I was thinking on doing the same but I would have to do all gear again

[novel sapphire]

my kfm is prob. better equipped as my bd in terms of gear, so I should have 770AP+ at 50..

[cedar wadi]

I invested too much

I really wanna reroll to summoner

[novel sapphire]

WAT

[cedar wadi]

But looking at summoner’s current situation

[novel sapphire]

EXCUSE ME, WAT!?!

SCUMMONER?

[cedar wadi]

Isn’t it cute to have a cat fighting next to you

[upbeat radish]

Add DMG with flash badge is a good jump in DPS, but CDR is much better, and costs more

[cedar wadi]

I suck, I play bd cuz I have muscle memory. I can’t learn another class

[distant obsidian]

Yeah

[ruby tangle]

no

[cedar wadi]

[cedar wadi]

2k more damage tho

The green only only gives 2.5k

Dat base damage inc

I wish I get that instead of shockwave

[latent seal]

How ?.-.

I mean it's not like you can transfer your gear from the BD

That should be a thing

[desert scroll]

It beats green cdr + fatal yeah, but falls off a cliff next to purple cdr

[cedar wadi]

Im waiting for purple LF to be price like other purple utility skills

Buying purple LF at 8k, same price as flicker.

Im Garbo collector. Yall ain’t getting better deals

Yeah

[frozen timber]

arguably pretty good lmao

isnt that how live used to play

[cedar wadi]

Hmmm I would go with flicker and probably just keep blue raid and flaming scourge. Better than green LF and blue storm cleave. With the price of 1 purple LF cdr, probably can stack 3 LF added dmg

Separate Investment in flicker and LF added dmg to get most out of mastery points

No mystic badge needed then?

I can sell my +6 max cr mystic badge and max cr soul badge

[novel sapphire]

I bought gear/skillbooks etc. with the dg's and went for legendary earring/ring instead of siren etc <-<

[cedar wadi]

You rerolled kfm cuz you got pinned by kfm in beluga

[novel sapphire]

naaah I dont play pvp XD

[latent seal]

I mean there are some leg accs that arent worth

[cedar wadi]

Ah i see

I always wanted to roll kfm cuz they pin me down

[latent seal]

Also you still have to enhance acc, weapon, get primers

All that cost even more than getting the gear

[cedar wadi]

And when I open their character detail

[frozen timber]

primers are cheap

[cedar wadi]

Nvm

[frozen timber]

enhancing acc is like 1-2k

its not that bad

[latent seal]

?

[frozen timber]

esp current price

?

[latent seal]

If you pity is more

[frozen timber]

no

its legit pity

[analog dragon]

Depends which one you pity

[latent seal]

Legendary ones ?

[novel sapphire]

true, bought some cheap with critdmg on ring and critrate on earring

[frozen timber]

LMAO legendary one who even tyhink sabout

upgrading non-perfect legendary...

[novel sapphire]

weapon is already enhanced, cmon.. I had 70k divinegems to spend..

[latent seal]

Well Fabi bought leg ones

Also you can buy high roll leg ones, I got one with 150 crit rate for like 2k

But I prefer staying purple with x2 cc

[novel sapphire]

True! Some peeps are selling it pretty cheap sometimes XD

[analog dragon]

Pitying Awakened siren to true is still like 3k worth if you end up buying the stones/powder.

[frozen timber]

just buying the stone is really cheap

dont ever buy powder ...

I mean I do hope he had that character up already LMAO

[slender jay]

WTB LF aditional dmg EU

[novel sapphire]

... <-<'' I bought the weapon on my sin and upgraded it to true + resealing with crafting Can make my char in 3hrs+-

[cedar wadi]

And then -1 mins

-1 hr

Character deletion bug

[latent seal]

LOL

[frozen timber]

never hes a griefer

so rich

LMAO

wasted money resealing

[novel sapphire]

HAhahaha

[novel sapphire]

huh? I used crafting for the charms

[latent seal]

I mean rerolling rn is just bad

They should release something that let you change your weapon or other things from class. Like BDO does

[novel sapphire]

aslong as you're having fun, thats right 😄 Don't need to be top10 in wb or smth, since I close to never did wb XD

[cedar wadi]

Not too bad

Cuz ppl are selling their stuff now cheap

They think it loses value next patch

[novel sapphire]

[desert scroll]

That's selling your current one on the market then buying another one for the new class

[cedar wadi]

I got my sc cheap for 7k before moonwater patch

Cuz ppl thought more blue will drop and sc will lose value soon

I sold it for 10k day 2 into moonwater

[desert scroll]

Well SC do be dropping now

But yeah it wasn't gonna drop 3 days in

[frozen timber]

?

are they serious

I did not know ogong word was banned here

[upbeat radish]

but in kr its 100 gems

moonwater book will go down trust

[frozen timber]

but I was gonna say just sell whatever you get

can't wait for price to go back up post-patch because not only does blue book not drop more often

people will yoink all of them to meet dps check

[upbeat radish]

and casuals will quit so less books, #doom

[frozen timber]

no doom, they won't do cs day 1

but I do believe they'll do it by end of week 1

[upbeat radish]

as long as we can regularly do cold storage and we get the update, we're fine

yeah a lot of ppl wont be able to do even cs

[latent seal]

4min enrage timer is dumb

[upbeat radish]

but shouldnt be thaaat out of reach maybe

[analog dragon]

me

[upbeat radish]

after that, we farm bsh shields from it and move to bsh 1

does mujin even drop something exclusive i forgot

[upbeat radish]

probably me too but shouldnt be too far

just sneak into a group

[frozen timber]

Not the

yunnie top 10 WB saying they can't do BSH P1 day 1

[upbeat radish]

funnily enough the #10 gets hidden with your own rank if u're 10+, so as long as u dont go higher ppl wont notice

[analog dragon]

Aspirins stole my chances at bsh day1

[frozen timber]

eh

looks fine from what i've seen

whenevr I talk about BSH day 1, I never tlak about P2

LOOL

[analog dragon]

[frozen timber]

my group prob can't even clear p2

[analog dragon]

I mean i assume its clearable but probably with proper progging

[frozen timber]

I told them

[analog dragon]

Until we get some more lvl

[frozen timber]

Im not spending 2 hours a clear

LOOOL

[analog dragon]

Yeah if it was like actual brand new content/game, i'd be fine spending 2h progging it

I'm not spending 2h on something 13 years old

to get 2 green books

[upbeat radish]

i wish first bosses had higher loot..

[frozen timber]

nah if it was like

clear 1 time sure

but its clear 9 times

[upbeat radish]

like go in farm trasher get some accesories 1/3 tries

[cedar wadi]

I can play your account @analog dragon Mega farmer, 1 purple LFcdr

Added dmg works too

[analog dragon]

Farm what

[cedar wadi]

Bsh part 1

[analog dragon]

best i can do is

Divebomb: Approach

[cedar wadi]

I take it

How much is that now

Less than 500 dg. Nvm

[upbeat radish]

[analog dragon]

Amazing deal get it quick

[cedar wadi]

Wait wut

You’re paying the purple one?

I thought it was blue

Nah Im saving to buy LF

[analog dragon]

You said purple LF

[cedar wadi]

Yeah cuz LF don’t have blue

I only have LF upgrade left

[analog dragon]

i trade you purple LF for wind sever

[cedar wadi]

When I open it

I sell you for cheap

Best wishes to myself

[analog dragon]

Maybe if i WTB in world chat i'll get a bite

[cedar wadi]

When are we getting simple mode in Neo

[analog dragon]

Simple mode seems so boring

[frozen timber]

you're already macroing

[upbeat radish]

i wish it was 200, but do i go dumb over this for 500 gems and go true siren again

[analog dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-15559601663074157456

ig simple mode is macro

I dont even know how simple mode works tbh never played live with it

[desert scroll]

It's macro but worse

[analog dragon]

With how terrible the GCDs feels in this game i feel like they'd somehow make simple mode a nightmare

Like even on summoner "instant cast on crit" has like a whole 0.5-0.75sec gcd somehow

like what is this 😭 in Live it would just shoot them super fast lol

im glad BD doesnt feel as clunky/awful. imagine they wouldve added GCD to Lightning flash/Flicker animations or RMB and Typhoon...

[cedar wadi]

Hmmm

I see why summoner is gated

[analog dragon]

LOL

They feel TERRIBLE to play... both sunflower and hornet has been giga gutted compared to live

[cedar wadi]

Horned nest is main dps skill right

[analog dragon]

0 ani cancel, GCDs on the whole kit

[cedar wadi]

[analog dragon]

Yeah its either sunflower or hornet

[cedar wadi]

That whole short videos

[desert scroll]

well yeah the cast is instant but it still has a 0.8s cooldown

[cedar wadi]

Did a total of lmb and LF

[analog dragon]

they dont specify it in game, the little rats

[desert scroll]

damn

[analog dragon]

But also in live it didnt. You'd just gattling gun that shii

[wheat atlas]

Summoners have always been the real Dancers

[desert scroll]

yeah Live gcd on rmb was like 0.2s

just long enough to weave in lmb and spam both

[analog dragon]

Like live sunflower you were ani cancelling LMB RMB, your Doom n gloom was insta cast and ani cancellable (also 16meter not 8). Same for briar. Same for thorn strike (2). Same for your 1... like pretty much the whole kit was macroable and ani cancellable

now like 80% the kit shares a GCD even the cat skills

Cant cast some cat skills while casting Hornet/Sunflower

I noped out of summoner hella fast and just main my BD. they butchered it

[desert scroll]

I only rember the rumblebees summ but yeah it was just constant lmb/rmb gatling and throwing the other stuff in the middle of it

[analog dragon]

Sunflower was pretty much same

[cedar wadi]

No wonder that day

The blue train was extra slow

With 3 sums

[analog dragon]

💀 yeah

And if they dont have hornet/sunflower it's zdps

[cedar wadi]

I thought it was my lightning pierce

So I changed back to flicker

[sudden stirrup]

they rlly made some super weird choices with a lot of the gcds in this game

[cedar wadi]

[analog dragon]

I didnt play BD in live so idk if any of the skills have a weird GCDs that wasnt in live

But BD feels relatively smooth

[cedar wadi]

Nah live bd super smooth

[sudden stirrup]

bd live is way better

[cedar wadi]

Rn simple mode wind

Woot

Refreshing

When Im tired of lightning, I turn on wind and press right button

[frozen timber]

pretty sure

live wind you just hold F

[sudden stirrup]

wind feels kinda...
like
its more interesting and engaging than in live but the fact that everything but e unboosts sunder and how x and v only gen 1 orb is kinda weird

[desert scroll]

Seems like live is 0.3s on both

[frozen timber]

and still rotate wind stuff LMAO

You don't even RMB

[cedar wadi]

simple mode is rmb

[sudden stirrup]

yea wind is just hold f, sometimes press x z and c

[desert scroll]

Just flaming scourge after lightning flash is weird af

[cedar wadi]

It uses f by itself

[desert scroll]

and raid has a long lockout too

[frozen timber]

live bd on lightning is ass though

Flash > Ani cancel with C

Flash > Ani cancel with X

Flash > Ani cancel with V

Flash > Scourge Ani Cancel

[cedar wadi]

Permanent wind spirit buff on live

[analog dragon]

Honestly i feel like if they didnt butcher summ on the GCDs in Neo, they'd be competing very fine on damage. Like remove all these GCDs and summ probably do 50% more dmg already

Like I'm doing 8.5k with bad stats and only 1x blue book on Hornet.

[analog dragon]

do u have to manually ani cancel still or simple mode does it

[sudden stirrup]

its like they nerfed gcds on the rat classes for pvp purposes as if they care about pvp
like why bother when u made the backbone of the game turbo p2w

[cedar wadi]

Simple mode cant anicancel for you

[desert scroll]

I guess their goal was to not make it the insanely spammy carpal tunnel class that it was, but if you divide by 2 the number of casts you gotta double the dmg of each to compensate

[cedar wadi]

No simple mode for lightning unfortunatel

[sudden stirrup]

why is it op if I can just PRESS Z during an animation at all

[analog dragon]

You know w hat they need to do... Legendary skills remove GCDs...

Easy money

[cedar wadi]

[sudden stirrup]

OOF

[cedar wadi]

Ur not gonna be dev

[analog dragon]

[desert scroll]

lightning BD is one of the worst simple modes and not even xml can fix it

[frozen timber]

You're banned

[cedar wadi]

Im leaving all games you are dev

[analog dragon]

LGD skills are still like 100k+ gems on KR

while the OP purples are 8-10k

[cedar wadi]

Now take that comment back before I see it in next kr patch

[frozen timber]

idk which one is stronger on live tbh LMAO

[cedar wadi]

[frozen timber]

our purple

[cedar wadi]

Wind

[frozen timber]

will never drop to 8-10k

yeah makes sense

[desert scroll]

Not that far from it tbh

[cedar wadi]

Live wind does everything

[frozen timber]

no one wants to ani cancel

if they release a legendary skill for neo wind

that removes the need to RMB

gg

its over LOL

[analog dragon]

the instant is ass tho. That's the one i showcased above

[frozen timber]

you'll never see lightning BDs ever again

[desert scroll]

it's just no cast time yeah

[analog dragon]

That's "instant" hornet. the 0.80sec GCD just ruin it

[sudden stirrup]

they should make simple mode light bd rotate between lmb, z, x, c, and v so u just f rmb no thoughts

[tawny crypt]

I love debuff immunity

[sudden stirrup]

right like??? u can't tell me that my qol was Too Toxic :((( in pvp when u put that

[analog dragon]

yea i just meant on KR lol

The blues are like 80-100, the "meh" purples are 1-2k, the stacking purples are 8-12k. The legendaries are 80-150k

[cedar wadi]

Cooldown

Simple mode only rotates around no cooldown skills

Like lmb rmb and 2 for fm and all that stuff

[sudden stirrup]

why does storm cleave even ready lightning flash when u can't anicancel flash with it

[desert scroll]

eh depends which class

[sudden stirrup]

and the janked out gcds freak the total hell out with the gcd auto bias on low ping it feels like water drip torture

[cedar wadi]

Yeah fm simple mode uses cd skills but most is using spammed skills

[desert scroll]

but iirc light BD simple exclusively does lmb/f, and does it particularly slow

[cedar wadi]

I like simple mode, wish it was smarter

[desert scroll]

I think Astromancer simple mode includes pretty much every single skill lmao

[analog dragon]

I've never even look into those new classes lol

[cedar wadi]

Sometimes I just don’t want to anicancel after whole day of work

I literally spam flicker and eat with my left hand

[desert scroll]

but it's bad since it's another class that needs to spam lmb/rmb while doing the other stuff like summ, and simple mode stops casting those while doing other stuff because it's always only 1 skill at a time

[cedar wadi]

And you will see a bd spamming left button jumping around

Lyn gets so many exclusive class

It’s almost have more exclusive class than classes that gon can choose.

[analog dragon]

I saw they got gunner too lol

Or was that always a thing

[cedar wadi]

For Lyn?

[analog dragon]

Yeah

[cedar wadi]

Yeah

Small gunner

[analog dragon]

I dont remember lyn gun being available when i mainswapped

Was like Yun and Jin i think?

[cedar wadi]

I know who to ask

@rigid sinew where my previous #1 gunner

[cedar wadi]

Ah

[analog dragon]

I miss gunslinger 😔 But i feel they wouldve giga butchered it in Neo with skill books too

[cedar wadi]

I thought it was always available

[analog dragon]

probably GCD on rmb like summ

[cedar wadi]

Your skill is behind purple book

[upbeat radish]

wdym stackable purples are still 10k in korea

[sudden stirrup]

yea its almost like they could just let us spec skills normally and leave the books for the stacking effect :)

[analog dragon]

Was last night anyway

[abstract pollen]

🤨 mucai rerolling?

[latent seal]

Omg another one

Poor wind bds

[cedar wadi]

Make sense, they have legendary books

Trash purple is going to get rolled to legendary

[analog dragon]

he said he was the other time

I think he said he was going to swap to BD, then he spent 50k gambling books and got all trash and gave up

[cedar wadi]

[desert scroll]

lyn playable classes (no clue for Bard I stopped before it existed)

Astromancer is also Lyn only (even though they showed a Yun in the first trailer)

wait forgot SF, they don't have that either

[novel sapphire]

aint no way, when he has the legi weapon... WTF is he doing

[novel sapphire]

Hahahahaha

[novel sapphire]

omg imagine lyn SF

[analog dragon]

lyn should be able to do any class

Lyn KFM pls

[novel sapphire]

would be poggers, the lil anklebiters

lyn destroyer when? Need these TERA Flashbacks

[rigid sinew]

PREVIOUS

HE SAID PREVIOUS

im still the best gunslinger in the whole wide world

[cedar wadi]

No gunner in Neo

[rigid sinew]

is ok

still in live

[cedar wadi]

You gotta wait until

[rigid sinew]

5 years

!

[cedar wadi]

10 year later

Oh hahaha

[rigid sinew]

yes

[cedar wadi]

Gunner being locked behind skill books

[rigid sinew]

see u guys in 10 years

[cedar wadi]

[rigid sinew]

no i love gunner skill books

its crazy buff

cuz u can choose ur skills again

i love it

[cedar wadi]

Ok next class is gunner

Apparently

[rigid sinew]

PLEASE give me gunner with skillbooks

SF is first

[cedar wadi]

Oh

I thought you got some words

[analog dragon]

Isnt it warlock > exclusive Neo class

[cedar wadi]

After warlock

[rigid sinew]

oh well yea true

exclusive neo class

and after prolly SF

[cedar wadi]

Did they even finish that class

[analog dragon]

Is game gonna be alive by then

[rigid sinew]

bns always alive

[analog dragon]

Sorry what am i saying, game already dead based on everyone

[cedar wadi]

It’s gonna take years

[rigid sinew]

EU never dies

[cedar wadi]

Moonwater ddos incoming

[sudden stirrup]

bns always alive the same way a zombie always alive

moonwater ddos is just earthseers trying to seal this desecrated corpse of a game with charms

[cedar wadi]

Ppl in live are quite nice cuz

I only see the same people

Every night

[sudden stirrup]

trauma bonding

[cedar wadi]

Their requirement is

All welcome

[desert scroll]

they know everyone still on that thing meets the requirement

[tawny crypt]

I like seeing new people

Its like discovering new species

New concoction of mental illnesses

[patent sphinx]

Who is spreading misinformation

Current rumor is that next class is lancer

On CN

Neo exclusive

[latent seal]

U mena Dancer

[sudden stirrup]

next class is always lancer

[novel sapphire]

true, the shot looks like spearmasterstuff

[cedar wadi]

Kr website has new exclusive class

[patent sphinx]

yeah

[cedar wadi]

But they didn’t say what class

[patent sphinx]

That the lancer

Who knows

[sudden stirrup]

surely lancer this time

[cedar wadi]

You need lancer in every mmo

[sudden stirrup]

make sure it's available for lyn

(I will not play it otherwise)

[cedar wadi]

All races can be lancer

It makes sense

Yun and jin 100% uses lance. Gon of course, they can whoop that big ass axe.

Lyn hmmm

[desert scroll]

I mean, after Lyn warden is there any logic to apply

the sword constantly clips into the ground

and the tail

but they still released it just like that

[sudden stirrup]

love lyn warden super good
sword still clips into the ground with max height lyn

[upbeat radish]

tbh i wouldnt go by the background picture, could be just a placeholder whatever silhouette and not based on the class

[sudden stirrup]

it would be hilarious if they cooked up another class that's not lancer

[analog dragon]

Reaper

[sudden stirrup]

yet another sword class but the sword is a chain blade

[wheat atlas]

Let’s give our respecs to BD out of valor stones removing green books 🙏

[vocal brook]

didnt we already know it was a caster?

[sudden stirrup]

I thought that was wl

[upbeat radish]

if u use valor stones to remove green books u deserve to be broke ngl

[analog dragon]

Necromancer. You summon undead lyns to fight for you

[sudden stirrup]

bonus points: it uses dead bots as your minions, and this is the primary bot mitigation tactic. bot repurposing

[desert scroll]

that's just warlock 3rd spec

well close enough

[vocal brook]

isnt it less cost efficient to use pages to remove them tho?

[upbeat radish]

u regularly turn hundreds of green pages into 3-5 green pages

shouldnt be swapping green books too often either, but point is u get green pages all the time

[sudden stirrup]

I could see it being better to use valor stones to swap green skills specifically while you're leveling and upgrading your gear as you go

should be done sparingly tho, so like for just your core skills like lightning flash, since all the rest have a valid white version to use while leveling

[frozen timber]

uhm

I use valor stone to remove green books

so I can gamble more often

[analog dragon]

have hundred valors from spinning wheels

[sudden stirrup]

ye but u can use them to gamba

[frozen timber]

cheaper to use the valor stone for removing for pages than just buying box for pages

[upbeat radish]

but u're not buying boxes at this point

[frozen timber]

I do

[upbeat radish]

tf

alright, for anyone not spending 5000 gems a day on essences to spin wheels, use some of your green pages u get from dungeons

[analog dragon]

i spent like

2000 total on essences ever

most of it cause of Stalker Jiangshi card

[frozen timber]

think im like

a bit too much

[analog dragon]

But got me over 600+ valor stones and i still have 200+ after swapping Lightning > Wind > Lightning > Wind

[frozen timber]

basically on avg

1000 spin would net you like

600-800 stones

[tawny crypt]

?next class is EoS

Also is there lore for why bd 3rd spec is some necromancer who summons the soul of the damned (whales with bad rng)

[sudden stirrup]

bcz lyns are canonically devilish little creatures

[upbeat radish]

i have 550 stones and wasted a bunch, like 100+ on desert wanderer just to get badge fragments, cant recall if i gambled on books/outfit
but i rather spend say 30 green pages to remove all my bottom acc greens than use the valor stones

its just gonna turn into 4 green pages on transmute anyways

[frozen timber]

just believe in the pages

[vocal brook]

[sudden stirrup]

yea just use pages to extract
its only when leveling where they might be kinda rare. worth to just get a cheap but long lasting acc like a nice siren earring for 50 gems to put your core skills in so you don't have to worry about transferring them

also ya we get cheated out of so much race lore bcz of ncsoft tunnel visioning profit harder than fms with dps

[cedar wadi]

Tunnel visioned

Bns was in my heart

That could challenge wow

The story is nice

Graphic is good upon release

[sudden stirrup]

they could have but world building isn't in their excel spreadsheet formula for maximum possible profit

[stuck cargo]

Lyn lore is they're like more in tune with the spirits than other races. But bns lore really just stopped mattering lmao

I miss 3rd spec.lmao

[wheat atlas]

They never explained where Lyns came from

[sudden stirrup]

not in game, its like buried in ancient, external lore

[scarlet iris]

its better if they dont

[wheat atlas]

At least we know where the Gons came from

[sudden stirrup]

uggghhh I wish I was in the timeline where bns actually competes with wow

[wheat atlas]

There was, this was the game.

[cedar wadi]

Why does it look

Like phone game

Looks like a mobile click click game

[twilit dawn]

I have an bd alt. What books would I need not to have hella focus issues

Lightning

[cedar wadi]

Blue raid

Blue flaming scourge

[latent seal]

Why it's so hard to get top 10, I'm so bad

[upbeat radish]

it felt kinda slow tbh

i got 28 but horrible experience of playing 200ms cuz im still on dallas route for no reason, changed after getting dc

@analog dragon was top 5 but trolled

[analog dragon]

You?

Oh me

[latent seal]

I saw that

Yunnie what happpened

[analog dragon]

Its cause our channels werent synced lol

I got ahead cause other channels were prob doing the mech

[upbeat radish]

that is pretty weird, how is it not forced by hp%

[analog dragon]

I cant compete with top10 when everybody but Cavok got purple main skills, or GM stacks lol

[upbeat radish]

u're waiting in a puddle and suddenly boss dies ????

[latent seal]

well 18 for not having purple is good I guess

[upbeat radish]

ah that's why its 979 was wondering for a second

[frozen timber]

crit crit dmg psyche is crazy

[latent seal]

Awakened already wtf

[upbeat radish]

hey he rolled <200 crit rate on poh psyches, we're relatable

[frozen timber]

his poh psyches are double stats

[fierce trail]

any one with logitech mouse for macro info?

[upbeat radish]

shhh

[frozen timber]

idk if its relatable

[sudden stirrup]

the past tense here is kinda ominous tbh

[weary stone]

selling Lightning flash Cooldown purple c: eu

[slender jay]

wtb LF aditional PM ME EU

[latent seal]

NA?

[weary stone]

eu

[latent seal]

[tawny crypt]

Might just make a 2nd bd and make that one lightning

[little minnow]

Why are you switching from flash cd to add damage?

[weary stone]

the opposite i wanted add damage didnt manage. nobody wanted to sell anything.

bought 1 book of cd and then transmuted and got another hahaha

[little minnow]

there's one for 20k on moonwater 🐳

[desert scroll]

Why do you want add dmg tho ?

[weary stone]

so i changed my build to storm cleave again. now the question what is better, i have charged choke on my C is there a better one for storm cleave build? like flash step for example?

i have charged choke purple

[latent seal]

Flash step is F not C

[sudden stirrup]

you absolutely do not want flash step for storm cleave
purple charged stroke is fine, it just got a buff in kr too
if you really wanted tho u could use aoe lightning draw instead for now, but definitely hold on to purple charged stroke

[wheat atlas]

What books you have

[cedar wadi]

He’s whale, he got purple LF if Im not mistaken

[latent seal]

All blues

[latent seal]

I wish

[cedar wadi]

Ok

I got a lot of bd on friendlist

I messed yall up

[latent seal]

Yu mf better see ur pm

[cedar wadi]

Im off these days

[latent seal]

Oh ok

[cedar wadi]

I have my niece playing it

Im waiting for new patch

[latent seal]

Your discord

Not in game

[cedar wadi]

One boba milk tea

Oh ok

Kids can play all day

[upbeat radish]

damn running a sweatshop to spend blessing

[cedar wadi]

Just one boba milk tea worth of payment

[latent seal]

That's cheap

[haughty pumice]

Buying all Epic Storm Cleaves on EU

[cedar wadi]

Yeah cheap

They get to play fun games

I get to take break off

He will finish his homework first

Cuz I gotta check that before he can play my desktop

[wheat atlas]

Someone said you were whale

[latent seal]

I wish

[scarlet iris]

Who’s this?!

Is he our #1 bd?

[upbeat radish]

yeah mistx, wasnt on todays wb

[weary stone]

na bd?

[cold talon]

yeah, na

[weary stone]

979 ap holy.....

we have a guy in EU his name is noush he has 919 ap fm.

thats all

hahahahaha

[analog dragon]

mistx is f2p

No Hexwood necklace

[cold talon]

true

[weary stone]

yeah

if he had hexwood he would've been already 1000

and then he becomes whale

[analog dragon]

What is your secret

How are you like the only f2p looking BD in top10

[scarlet iris]

😭prob gonna reach 1k ap before new patch huh

[weary stone]

no clue

[cold talon]

$0 bd

[weary stone]

better ms probably.

[cold talon]

i get 100fps solid on world boss, that probably plays a part

[analog dragon]

Beating purple sever/lightning flash people. op

[weary stone]

yunnie are you on eu?

[analog dragon]

[weary stone]

anyone wants to trade lighning flash CD for connection??? eu

[analog dragon]

That's not me anyway that's cavok lol

I'm wind

[weary stone]

oh

im 808 ap with not the best damage since my ms is high

and i am lightning because its cooler

😄

[scarlet iris]

What’s ur ms?

[weary stone]

100 +/-

[scarlet iris]

I’m 80-90

NA tho

[upbeat radish]

so what u're saying is that's me with 10ms

[desert scroll]

I'm 20-9999

moonwater moment

[weary stone]

im bypassing the random disconnects with my ms

i fool them with lagging.

[upbeat radish]

idk what was going on with NA earlier, i got like 1 dc, but 2 other times i was online chatting real time and checking market, but i couldnt move or do anything

[desert scroll]

People DC but you see it too late and it's gone

[analog dragon]

10ms, 100fps and probably some hella good ani cancelling

[weary stone]

same in eu, plenty of dcs

[scarlet iris]

10ms in my dream

[weary stone]

yunnie are you sleeping at the servers rooms of ncsoft?

[analog dragon]

gets 100fps in world boss meanwhile i'm afk in greenhollow

😔

[cold talon]

gimme that ping

[analog dragon]

PC gap

[weary stone]

bruh

my pc is a beast.