#Kung Fu Master
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Best girl the reze from csm
Chainsawman
ductil drop is 20% for non sealed
off to kick cow cow
not human cow

gl on wb gais
Ngl we need to report humancow for false advertisement, he ain't a humancow anymore, his just a human
the kfms
are not bothering to log in ๐
or what
on our wb its like
p10 0.6%
and im out of top 10 sometimes
could also mean we do way more dps
boss dies faster , and our share of damage is lower ๐ค
like more whales in lancer or something
basically its hard to tell with the default meter lol
Maybe top10 have alot more gear than others. since majority does around 0.200%
whales with 16k+ crit rate 10k crt dmg 6+ leggy skills and 2k+ ap also lvl 77
wish i had at least lvl 77
im not even 70

well I do about 0.6% but Im holding between 400k to 450k depending on the boss and person tanking it
Anyone got full KFM purple skill book guide?
Ah EU is like 360k
P10
best way to get white light drops?
farm bibong fist
or msp
both rare
white lights still cost 1k each in eu
You just farm whatever gets you the best gold/xp
Which would be a good lv60 spot
White Lights are very rare, even for people killing lots of 70 mobs quickly
yeah it seems like it D:
idk what the good spots are idk the msp map that much
seems like my only way tho im way underpowered for bibong/fist and dont wanna spend gems on them
Then you should expect to get them through upgrading winterbane
With refinement stones to keep the cost of upgrading down
you dont do this, they aren't farmable
you get them whenever gods blesses you once every full moon
Yeah I didnt get any for like 4 days , but today I got 2 but one of them failed on upgrade so...
in this game just because something exists doesn't mean its achievable by normal means, or its farmable (eg. mushin's soulcore)
@simple sandal I didn't had one for 2 weeks . Had couple the last two days tho. Kiddo haven't seen one since first week of patch. And she loves msp.
thats nuts
but usually ncsoft makes them much easier to get later , like maybe through bp and stuff like that. So Im never really rushing anything , I just upgrade efficiently when ncsoft makes things easier
they might bring back the free windersbane tap transmute into white light
if white light is super rare what is gold line
those simply dont exists if you aren't raiding and EVEN THEN
whale line
Rn its basically impossible to find goldline as a drop , but goldline is after you get above whitelight+10
you buy them with 1 k gems each
jesus lol
you tap tap tap tap
you get gold line
and stay +0 gold line
for some months
you wait
until something drops them
and repeat
how much does it cost to upgrade white light accessories, even some of the best players ive seen with crazy dps are just +1-+5 on them
then i see these guys like jinfu and azgaro who i never see with maxed everything ๐
Its not much tbh , maybe 1k ish for the whitelight fodder and 20g+ each tap
see negi
so with the best luck possible it would cost me 10k gems + 200g+ to get to white light 10 for 1 accessory
if you want to go that big, yea
Damn 3600 ap
probably more than 10k, cause u also have chance to fail.
DAMN
10k sounds way to cheap ๐
yeah thats why i said with the best luck possible ๐ญ
these guys are monsters wtf
is requirement for raiding higher than the latest dungeons?
theyre funding the server
Above yeti, below the new 2
latest dungeon would only get you to boss 2 on raids.
Yeah only talking about boss 1 
to clear a raid, u need basically negi tier gear
Its because u said phisting
I think even then raid doesnt really drop a significant amount of accessories until you can do boss 3 too
raid is only 3 bosses?
Its 4
4
and bibong/fist falls between boss 1 and 2
But each gets harder than the last
that sounds terrifying
the raid was released few months ago, its designed to be unclearable
Boss 1 is now pretty doable
and is stretched into multiple gear brackets
It used to be for whales
Too bad they literally made it unclearable by having bugged corridor
Lol what
Bibong doesnt do DMG tho. Bt2 is much harder in terms of mech
well its more about personal dps req than mechs
We cant even reach boss 3 because the corridor mob is bugged. Cant exit soul separation=whole party wipes
Isn't bibo 170k with bleed?
boss 2 is around that to
ya bt has lower def
What level is bibong anyway
76
Thats good
bibong is a dps check
Gonna reach the min. force for it soon, but probably not the min damage for it yet
fist is more fun
most peeps do far above 200k there, so its whatever as long as u hit the 26.2
fr, i hate that people prefer bibong multi
@tight knot my kiddo was doing 160-180k on bibo with something like 120 stacks on wtd and 2k ap.
But they had Volco doing something stup1d like 500k. That was few weeks ago
If the party doesnt have bleed
I would contribute the most just based on how stupid health regen has gotten 
Basically lol
people can't do mech
Im surprised how most of my parties dont have bleed. Seems rare
Just get a group of light bds and wind kfms. Problem solved
Most classes have like 30% crit rate on bibo without card sets lol
Kings*
Daddy*
havent seen a single bleed other than the rare DD FMs
i only bleed when theres no whales to burst yeti 
Wind kfm could rmb , but are there popular builds that have bleed baked into it?
yes, build called foshi
rumble bee sum i guess, its stronger but most of em are still SF.
Because of msp. Rumble is pain there and 99% of the summoners are msp enjoyers
That makes sense
I know only triguun running rumble but he has secondary gear with full leggy sunflowers for msp
Shaaresh too
corona to
It's something like wind kfm having full tiger leggy for msp xD
but tbf sunflower just sounds super satisfying
has BT been cleared yet
not in na/eu
im watching an old livestream from 2 weeks ago of chiikawa doing it
only in kr/tw
they got to raven king but couldn clear
chikawa's pt avg is still like 31 or 32k i think
tw was 35k-36k pt
kr clear was around that to
you pretty much need full leviathan pt to clear in this patch
Yeah dolphins might get there next patch
Im guessing somewhere around mid to near end of next patch
it always did hello?
TW pulling kr numbers really makes you think
In EU I'm not even sure if there is even one party with 36k
full leviathan party is funny to hear ๐
I mean one party worth of people with that SF
I can think of 4 people above 35k. Maybe 5
me
ari go make a sandwich
you're so cool
What's happywarlord and pizza SF?
thanks
Too old for this game (cough, cough)
wtf is this
Valira and Wicked too
He mentioned them
i dont think they do enough dps
maybe pizza
if he plays
ice wl cant
pizza
in this patch perform
If he gets piloted you mean ? XD
happy and em are 33k i think
I guess all their spendinga went for the new wb weapons just
no pretty sure ice wl
cant do the dps
in this patch
without enough crit sets
needs more powercreep
more cardsets
Go mona xD
isnt it dead
Im going to tank raven king and be the first clan to clear once I one tap awakened skills
is that even worth it on wind kfm
you baited me
Does anyone know how much dps it contributes tho?
We just don't have massive whales in EU, and do t forget valira is wind xD
and someone is spamming
monak
in world chat
to trigger your bot
in that server
XD
need to block
Ah I see, I just see notifications
would that respond to people asking if its still alive
if you make a bot
to check world chat
yes
like look
theyre probably spam triggering
the notifs
Ah I seen notification for that Roch message xD
monak is monarch's f2p cousin
what is this monarch server
I refuse to believe someone would actually call it that
its somewhere youre excluded from
cause they dont f with you like that
I've seen mona twice with the mini bosses icon

It was super confusing
Most clans made their own bota for mona irc
Allegedly it's an easy script... For able people... Not disabled like me when it comes to software xD
its very easy
but false positives
if i start spamming monarch now
in chat
ill get blocked
by many people
Deserved too
Haha yeah
i mean
i can have a conversation
about how monarch should be reworked
and i would still get blocked
even without fake callout
cause id trigger their bot
Haha yeah, he's too big of a deal to mess with xD
You're broke ๐
this is the richest ive ever been
no joke
never been able to stack so much
for next patch
oh theyre 500 tickets
Are we having leg selector for 1st anniv -_-
@kindred jewel
drop the leaks
lady
speak to the people
I think so , if its same as kr
Selector would be too much imo. It will break the game, cause hyperinflation and in his rage Trump will invade Greenland. So no , if we lucky maybe a rng box
purple card and box in this stage of the game too ๐
I think those purple items are for new players
But the players that already exist get the golden , im not 100% sure tho
If its purple for everyone then yeah itll be laughable 
just another rng leggy smite inc
cant let other regions be better than kr, its in their blood
west beating kr in the last pvp tourney and that was it for the worlds, no more ๐
I seen that !
I don't want ban xD
I mean idk, at this point if we dont get a selector
Rownen will fund our ticket to NCKR HQ
stream is in 2 days so patience, everything should be finalized by now
Did they managed to finish the patch notes from last month or the hamster responsible for that end up as a soup somewhere along the line ?
probably soup'd
Does anyone here know a good android controller app for neo ?
I want to try to play mona on my phone as I'm too lazy to go downstairs
https://www.youtube.com/live/e7EtkTKTtAE?si=BpcbrihLImMJYT1c
KR KFM Live (2FF CK)
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I cant watch. It says it is private video
someone help me pls ฤฑ dont know anything about kfm and ฤฑ thing this one needs macro bad dont worry ฤฑm not gonna use her for wb XD
His streams also dont get saved to the Live page 
anyone got a extra shrouded shadow for sale ? ๐ค
Wtb sacred mystic badge with 30% xp

@kindred jewel do you know if i get this bound winterbane weapon to white light
i can use as foodder ?
this
bound winterbane becomes unbound standard white light
so I see no reason why it wouldnt work
ty
It takes 65g and 10 stones
@tribal pollen @charred niche
What you think ๐ฅฒ
uhh yeah buff wont cut it since its that bad
needs a total rework
TS GM is trash in the current landscape of skills, damage mod is mid as well for a "main skill"
Pulv is slow, conditional and mod is trash
and searing blow... well its a dead purple skill
doesnt matter either way, ill stick to fire
i wont swipe to speed up my progress
its pay to lose at this point, just cruisin
How is it a dead skill? Isn't it the most useful skill for focus and reducing SP timer?
If anything, I felt like the focus recovery on crit for TS is dead
I'm already weaving in Searing Blow, why do I need the focus
II tried Pulv before class swap, woulda stayed if it felt good but it's so awkward
I saw on the KR streams ppl posting, "4 skill is troll and no one uses it" lol
thats the exact reason
you HAVE to use searing blow
it takes time, bricks you and locks you in place for close to 0 dps
searing blow = Cyclone kick
its not comparable
it relocates you too LOL
ck 48 gives sp cdr
but I like how it plays
Yeah I think a rework would be better
Pulv is weird and TS GM + Searing Blow feels redundant and not that smooth
its so much dps loss cuz im requried to hit searing blow for upkeep purposes
as long as I can cast pulv im good
I got used to that with Smite but I think with Smite you could sometimes cancel being pulled to 0.5m
never felt that with Pulv
make that make sense
what you say it does not in reply to
the only thing they gotta do is
change the sp cdr from searing blow and give it to TS
simple
Make searing blow leggy and give it stacking crit dmg buff, that'll be funny 
ts = sp cd red
leggy searing blow gives 1 sec buff
pulv rework
give it 100% crit dmg for 1 sec
that would be bad
so 1 pulv = 2ck
no u need 100 gm at least
offset the awkwardness of pulv with dmg to compensate
as it should
it was like that
doing BT boss 2 pre rework was crazy with pulverize
it was soo fun
buff kfm
Yes... Wind kfm needs 40x CK modifier. XD
R they gonna buff fire tho, for years it was obsolete and neglected in live 
not sure tbh but given their track record...
Was fire not meta in mw
id say it was meta until balance patch tbh , but people disagree so idk
fire should always be slightly weaker than wind anyway, or there is never a reason to play wind other than hindering ur progress.
yeah basically , but they do need a buff
shouldnt be half the dps of wind lol
maybe like 20% weaker
im doing like double morados damage lol
KR is bit known to be inefficient while figuring out numbers for obvious reasons
just wait and see first
once its out here
aint no way its that hard to figure out balance tho
I feel like I could figure it out before any testing and im not even that great with math
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fire was "better" mid purple
once 48GM was rolled out, wind has been better
the entry for fire was cheaper
but on top tier Wind has always been higher
in mmo terms 10% is already unbalanced LOL
how was dafuqer outdpsing me then , I had op cards too
๐คจ
and hes like 3,000,000 ping
when is this LOL
i honestly dont see how its that bad, x2 14.50x multiplier that hits twice, +30% CDMG, 950% AP extra damage
like right before balance patch , and i was more geared lol
i was like wow this guys no joke
he might be higher level than you idk
oh tbf i wasnt using pulv , just straight ck so
for what? the new comet?
yes
someone needs to pull out actual maths
, doubt anyone actually did any calcs
everyone was calling glaive swell build on DL bad and suddenly someone uses it and now everyone just uses that.
I'll consider comet if it's instant cast
there were some comet enjoyers, maybe they will appreciate it if it does the dmg.
The additional cast comet might be good , I have to do the math tho but the 25% cdmg seems insane
pair it with smite for another 10%
dunno about cast, it always looked off to me
lunar will be really good
legendary dungeons ck will be superior
uptime is unmatched
but at he end of the day, you will stick to what feels good
if comet ends up dealing more damage than CK during its double cast then its simply whether you want to keep throwing kicks or not, at the cost of doing something slower and different every reset
people also immediately thrown away their comets as soon as legendary CK released, while comet was still more damage output
at the start
I used to play additional cast and it was pretty good
Channeling didn't feel too good tho
so I dont buy it for now, KR was eager to get an excuse to throw their comets away lol
Whats the comet gm?
more dmg , 30% CD , more dmg
30 cd 
even if the first hit, somehow, neutral to the CK in damage due to its cast time
2nd hit would be net damage gain
I just do not see how its not
How long is the cd buff

18 provides 450% AP damage at searing 3 and 4
48 provides 950% on top of that on a target affected by searing palm
there is also the fact that it will end up gaining more dmg per book slot cause of diminishing returns on high gm lvl stacking for ck.
+8.45x on searing palm targets as a default effect
yes
like sure, most people don't like interrupting their CK flows
but that doesn't make comet "trash" especially with the numbers it gains with leggy, pretty sure pure CK will be fine as it always was
if i were to guess id think a few books in comet would be a net gain and take away some ck books
just like before
thats my stance for now
Provide me books and ill make some testing 
like how comet was a gain but not by alot that made pure CK obsolete or anything
I was pumping pure ck in the past wdym 
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I was the resident comet caster :d
Stronger than most comet with similar gear
Either way u would have to test the amount of ck vs comet during that time and then the loss of gm stacks from ck converted to comet
Theres also the matter of not critting ur comets in like sp3
Afterwards u have to test how fluidly can u continue from comet without losing time to get right back into ck
If they do more hajoons then getting comet will be inevitable i think , unless you're salvaging for 1 page
so might aswell try later
Also timing ur 2nd comet with 1 key press is faster than spamming it
oh is it? i just held the button lol
How is that gonna adjust in real fights
Thats sloooooow
Cant wait to c ppl test comet again and then skill issued on can only cast 1 coz boss atk has a cc 
yeah or it moves
Yep
I just want ck leggy books but i only got 18gm swift 
Cant believe im spending selectors on swift
Im playing catchup so i dont have such resources to buy leggy book
Maybe i shoulda went fire on return

if you go fire you wil never catch up lol
i did the math
174 kick 48 swift>138 kick 30 swift 48 comet
on250% cdmg assumption
giving the 30% cdmg buffed comet a 12% dmg boost
math is assuming you cast comet every 10 kicks~
and you lose 2-3 kicks per double comet cast
174 kick 48 swift>174 kick 30 swift>138 kick 30 swift 48 comet
even this is right
just saying
comet not worth
and now if you start adding dungeons attacks
and delays
kick comes out way way ahead in dps
well dungeon attacks
interrupt ck
as much as they interrupt comet
2nd comet is instant
yea ok
maybe
but still the logic stands
comet 48 is a sidegrade
and adds aoe
and reduces your top end dps
by a bit
Oh ok good to know
Is there any info about awakened skill , like how much of a dps increase it is
If its substantial I might whale a bit ๐
too much rng on procs
to calculate
i need to see actual gameplay
over 10 hours
and avg out the procs
i dont think so
it has innate cooldown
like lets say
you do 2ff
you proc it
you cant proc it again'
for idk how long
its like proccing your mantra
you need to proc 5 times
and boom
Ohhh.. rip
you need to wait 5 innate cooldowns
to do the big dmg
im 100% sure i need actual footage
with 48 gm celestial on
A SPECIFIC CLASS
and spec
only
of unstopped dps
on dummy
to calc how fast each class procs
Are there any kfms with it yet in kr? Never seen it yet
im not sure
this is a very very
ambiguous skill
i dont trust nc
lets say you get its
it
48 gm celestial
you will be losing
36 gm kick?
no
18+18+18
losing
wait
if you take out 3 books
you lose 18x3gm?
Should be
ok lets take this
I think it works like the mantra
yes
144% vs 178.2%
31.964 ap mod vs 36.4442 ap mod
you lose like
4.5 ap mod per kick
to have 48 gm celestial
Need to hit 5% 5x
yea but you cant proc it
in 1 sec
all of it
you need to wait
until its available to be proc again
That sounds like ass lol
Thats crazy
im assuming actually
cause wtf
its way too rng
otherwise
someone on wb
can just be luckier on proc
and win p1
Yeah lol
than other player that played better
if a monke gets carried
and procs the skill 5 times
in 1 min
gg
but yes the 4.5 ap mod
is certain
loss
lets say that
3k ap
x4.5
13.5k dmg lost per kick
to have 48 cele
At that point you live and breath rng already
Cause 5% 8 pages is absurd
With the current market
Its neo tho whats new 
And new content, it will be required
Cause they will inflate boss hp
281.5 ap mod
explosion
you lose 4.5 ap mods~ every kick
let me divide
if you proc it in less than 62~ kicks
its worth to run
but barely
oh wait nvm
this is 48 celestial
I through convo was still on comet
Yeah its aoe
yes
Bro no way that procs on 30kicks
Prob whole skill
whole skill
ok guys so
same dps if it exploded on 62 kicks
casts
anything below that
dps upgrade
It takes same skill slots no?
Bro we are already fckd with x and ss
Lol to proc the celestial skill. You need to hit many times to gain 1 orb to 4 orbs and then it proc the skill. Waste so much DPS for KFM. it work for FM
if you have 1.72 counts
60.2 kick in 35 sec
whats the counts atm
who knows the ratio
wheres a parse
So low ping is required
Really hmmm
Can it make us viable wuba
a supercharged ck player
that is super super fast
needs to proc this skill
in like 30 sec
as far as I remember the reason why they added the global CD for all the awakened skills so everyone would be able to trigger it around similar times
to be worth
and not all awakened skills are copies of eachother between classes afaik
but that needs testing
Cause.. hokding rmb DT
like CK should be getting more stack chances compared to FM
from what im calculating
its not 1:1
Will proc faster
yes some classes might as well trigger it after 3 seconds of its reset
it should be different per class
i need to do that math too
tbh
but ill do it when we see how it procs
if its worth to remove 1 more kick for 18 more gms of celestial
etc etc
It takes like 130 kicks for a 80% chance to hit 5 times
So like just going off of 64 kicks or w.e seems not worth
ํญ์ ์์ฒญํด์ฃผ์ ์ ๊ฐ์ฌํฉ๋๋ค!!
Celestial Skill. You can see 4 orbs to proc the skill
isnt that 5
and also this guy did it super slow
and procced it in
35 secs
wtf
so maybe the skill is insane
bro wtf
he procced it in 35 sec
with the slowest combo
in existence
for fun
Also we dont know if individual attack lines count right? Like my ck has multiple lines of damage
prob not
just ck cast
can proc
or swift
but yea this video
is absolutely useless
hes pressing his buttons
like snail
doesnt give me good info
whats the point
of this vid
legit
big number= wow?
@kindred jewel
f king is censored
this is new
i could type it before
i think 48 celestial worht
yes proud
delulumaxxing
it procced very fast
with super slow combo
it will proc a lot for WIND. Poor Tiger Strike.
Real Pain No more gold no more Mystic badge 
that depends on proc chance
on each individual skill
hi risu
Good luck and dont hit pity
@charred niche 
How's awk skill
its worth to use if you proc it in less than 62 kicks
is my math
another math
comet not worth
What if it procs from all kinds of add dmg instead of actual skill activation
Else single skill spammers would be kinda fked
KFM hit counts seem pretty low
yeah thats what I meant , if it counts additional damage then seems kinda busted
Isnt a new tier of book meant to be busted 
Btw fellow kfms
Floo ruined our emojis
On kfm chat
And added clown emoji
Put him down
@main otter
Cuz they scrubs
Who dont appreciate the doof doof sound
Gonna find out real quick who never used comet before 
Lpalm buff when
^
Someone posted kr kfm stream here few days ago. The second kfm was with 48 stacks and was doing more DPS than the streamer
18sec rcd and 1500% MORE DMG on crithit
โInefficientโ you say ๐คฃ
thats what I said, yes
it takes too long for them to come up with proper powerlevels or figure out the %s between the builds, since they mostly use WBs and clear times for metric + manual calculations from the combat log
case in point
they made a super op shoruded shadow build
using a 2nd leg ck
and took it away from kr so fast
thruster punch on release
too op
they took it away
but it could aslo be an argument for money scheme
they know at the time its hard to get purples/gold books
release op and make player change
then rip it away
They gon nerf ck when they notice no1 going for comet in kr
did NC ever nerfed something without disguising it as a bug
I dont think they have
its too late they cant take CK away anymore
Live ck when wl sb came out was a fix within 1 week 
we blame kellpak for that
made a whole ass video for it
not that i actually care about any clas beside kfm
I think the way double ck worked back in mw was buggy anyway ๐
now its a feature
Ive played bns b4 it came to west and it worked as is just 2rff instead of r2ff
Unless im mixing it with some other pserver 
Bro i was being adviced to switch my flurry into shadow when i was doing top10 wb solo wind
Yeah they have soft hands brother, thats why they hate fire - I did too. Cause they too salty how easy with searing blow was in blue / early purple tier
Other wind kfm couldnt accept that i made it top10 with flurry ๐
Doing all that made wind fun
Like legit random wind kfm pm me how i did it, then later tell me to switch flurry off to shadow
But i had less gear than thwm 
Now kfm builds r very streamlined 
Its a shell of what it used to be
Every boss fight was a damn chess match before
Now its just how many Fs you press
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This is the part I have serious issues with. Just using the multipliers for YAST, and assumed adders from badges skills - Wind is predicted to have a 30+% DPS over fire. Also that was assuming no animation canceling.
If that can be calculated by a spreadsheet in 30 minutes just how little effort have they put in? Itโs really freaking pathetic
Ray Charles could have seen this coming.
Its closer to 50% actually
I would assume they prefer trial and error over working with hard data, KR NEO isn't really that competitive
its not really easy to get words directly from KR community either
we only really interact when we're collectively bashing NCKR
Iโm guessing thatโs the animation cancellation shorting the skill timer
Pulv mistakes and just using searing blow altogether
You cant do a 100% flawless run
We playing manual here lol
Well whatever it is my assumption is they just pulled some bum off the streets and said โhow should we improve the KFMโ
๐
it was worth me crashing out
i spent about the first 20 minutes
trrying to find a spot 
total of 47 minutes
๐
ok octoPUS
thanks
when i fail an exam in uni
ill tell this to my professor
unkillable fire king
Wtb white light necklace
nice jinx
Problem?
yes
Solve it
This is why they wont listen to you 
im ngl
the exp is kinda meh
something we can farm ourselves for a total of about 2.5 hours worth of exp
depending on the class
Nice i need those ascent stones tho , we need so many




