thats what happend awk patch tbh
#Kung Fu Master
violet violet
plus upgrading separate accessories is expensive as hell
errant basalt
just go doggo and holding rmb
violet violet
yea i think i quit live around when 3rd spec came out
violet violet
tremor comet too op
simple sandal
stuck sky
Later 😞, I bought some skills for my fm
real seal
Fire>wind
neo not expensive compare to other mmo (mobile or pc) in my opinion
not even a quarter of amount people spends in lost ark
cobalt lion
@hybrid dove
If you catch it quickly with my "KFM" caricature, it's 43-44 seconds. The current Destroyer job finishes in 23 seconds using iterative skills.
eager kiln
Fire or wind it doesn't matter. Any build can be OP and enjoying your own build. As long as you are whale enough to buy your skill books, Access. You can out damage anyone.
hybrid dove
<@143175986316443648>
If you catch it quickly with my "KFM" caricature, it's 43...
Yeah.. thinking to reroll lol
marble apex
not sure what happened
did a dummy parse and now im doing the same dps as i was doing with my old wind build
maybe merge now my skills register properly
🤷
same rotation
nothing else changed
othejr than its merged
eager kiln
S>>> PM
candid tinsel
Game is so garbage there wont be any supply for purple skills yet alone legendaries 
marble apex
@normal mountain any questions you have can be answered here
normal mountain
<@841036709114544148> any questions you have can be answered here
thank you mr
any have refference gameplay + skill book for KFM ? im new for kfm
i want play only dungeon
and now im just touch lv 45
covert shore
any have refference gameplay + skill book for KFM ? im new for kfm
i want play o...
They used to say punch and kick till they die lol
smoky dune
can anybody say will wind kfm get aoe on his f again sometime in the future like old kfm with badge or not? kinda sucks that only fire got aoe
marble apex
no one knows whats going on in kr dev mind
simple sandal
<@190669342931681280> is your clanm active? we need more kfms in uchiha
I was saying we should invite toker 👀
Yes its active 
marble apex
I was saying we should invite toker 👀
marble apex
If anyone wanted a side by side comparison of wind and fire i finally mastered the rotstion on the dummy. Ill link you the results. 24gm tiger vs 48gm ck. Tiger has 2k dps more. Full manual. Others might have different results. My ping is 18ms
simple sandal
yeah I always knew fire is stronger
marble apex
yeah I always knew fire is stronger
we all know this
:kek
but for math purposes
i did parse for both my builds
to see the exact diff
im wondering now if i can replicate once we get gm effects while using ck and leading palm badge effectws
not sure exact build but this is something ive thought up temporarily
the only differnce is not having volcanic for extra burst
neeed chaos kick for timing purposes since its 12 sec cd with smite
violet violet
we all know this
Tell this to whoah and he’ll give you a full explanation of how you’re not reaching the max ceiling for wind 
marble apex
Tell this to whoah and he’ll give you a full explanation of how you’re not reach...
nah he'll just reference someone who was using super script
cba with that bs
im a 100% manual player and i only do my tests based on human skill
violet violet
BuT wHy ShOuLd wE AcCoUnT fOr HuMaN eRrOr
marble apex
setlle down sponegbob
violet violet
Maybe whoah scripts that’s why he plays perfectly
violet violet
marble apex
<:noway:1327055803466645556>
one thing tho was interesting
we all know fire doesnt need low ms
but its actauly crazy how you dont need good ms at all
zero
me and biggie pretty much similar
look at our f3 to compare
violet violet
What ping does biggie have
marble apex
so see our stats
pretty much similar right?
but im 18ms and he almost 200 ms
we did hHighland e today our dps is practically same
fire could probably have same dps on 300 ms
errant basalt
on live it did but i think on neo our auto gcd is suped up or something 200ms is usually around 50% dps loss but not on neo
violet violet
Tiger strikes hit slower so good ping does matter less but it’s possible you could get off more tiger strikes than he can in a set period of time due to ping
But ye it’s negligible
Stable ping is much more important than low ping
Vs a high hit count class which needs both
marble apex
🫡
outer crest
Fire got a lot stronger ever since they fixed the overlapping focus recovery bug, where wind kfm buff 
violet violet
What bug :O
errant basalt
bring back thruster
marble apex
ngl i didnt know about this bug
violet violet
Neither did i
marble apex
do you mean like the focus recover from searing palm ewach stage?
kindred jewel
you gotta pay potentially 250k DG for wind KFM buffs 
marble apex
we adapted
outer crest
you gotta pay potentially 250k DG for wind KFM buffs <a:ShiftyLick:1078898251903...
fire then goes pulv and still out dpses wind in silverfrost 
violet violet
So i haven’t really looked into tiger + pulv, why do you need 4 leg pulv for it to work?
marble apex
eehh
errant basalt
i think wind will be stronger with pulv unless three summoners with q but we'll see
violet violet
The bonus?
marble apex
really gotta stretch to get 48 gm on pulv without any leg
the build makes you sacricifce some good burst
errant basalt
-6 cd on crit
violet violet
Ohhhh ok
marble apex
What’s 48 gm bonus
outer crest
it will beat destroyer once they release proper pulv badge
violet violet
Yea that’s pretty broken
errant basalt
meh let des have their time they were dogwater in dps for so long on live
tight knot
Is the 2nd one focus?
errant basalt
ye focus
not enough for fire but enough for wind which is why i think wind will win out unless sum
violet violet
The 2nd bonus is focus?
marble apex
yes
errant basalt
ye
violet violet
Hmm
long swan
wait where/how do you see the effects on the 18/30/48 breakpoints
marble apex
wait where/how do you see the effects on the 18/30/48 breakpoints
i use this site:
and you can select which version near the bottom middle of screen
long swan
gotcha ty
marble apex
go to kr version and translate to english
feral shell
yeah I always knew fire is stronger
this has been known since old bns, wind kfm was always bad. thats why it had to be reworked
simple sandal
but im 18ms and he almost 200 ms
thats what ive been saying too but people talking straight out of their a holes
simple sandal
this is what il ike to see
lol i just ran with him in tree
simple sandal
@cobalt lion Hello su , how come there is a different legendary soul shield set but it has the same stats as the windshock set?
feral shell
make sure to kick any wind kfm trying to do a legendary dungeon
marble apex
Im an imposter right now
Cosplaying as fire kfm
I think i should say this as well
I need to take back what I said about fire being braindesd
It has its own unique creativity with weaving in the combo properly and making sure you're efficient with leading palms and burst from Volc and BB
Def not sleeper build
Sorry to all the fire kfm I trash talk to in the past
simple sandal
nah just hold 2
simple sandal
thats one thing i hate about this game , need 1 set for msp , 1 set for pvp , 1 set for pve
🤡
marble apex
Wind build is good for pvp
Cuz of shin kick
Csnt 2rf spam people when they cc on fire cuz you run out of focus quick
remote oracle
guys which build is wind and which is fire? so i can decide what to go :D
simple sandal
Wind is cyclone kick varient and fire is tiger strike variant
remote oracle
Wind is cyclone kick varient and fire is tiger strike variant
mind giving me pros and cons?
simple sandal
Wind pros: high mobility , fun anicancel
Cons: requires stable ping , lower damage , lack of aoe
violet violet
If you like the dopamine from ani cancelling you’ll like wind
That’s like the biggest reason people play it
If you like punching but not anicancelling then go fire
simple sandal
Fire pros: high aoe damage , ping friendly , high damage , higher s4 uptime
Cons: less fun(subjective) , searing blow locks you in place , wind kfm dont respect you lol
violet violet
You only run into those elitists in discord
Normal gameplay you won’t be affected
Prob not enough kfms as a whole to care xd
Nobody will gatekeep you for being fire
simple sandal
If you ask me id go wind every single time. Its just way more fun
violet violet
Real gatekeep was early days of purple lmb on fm
People get mad that you’re detonating their burn and kick you or don’t accept your join req
marble apex
No one gonna gatekeep a kfm regardless if its fire or wind
Unless they dont know anything about kfm searing palm
Or if you're build is just so out of whack
I seen people stacking searing blow and swift strikes and im thinking. How bout nah
violet violet
mind giving me pros and cons?
I think since u talked about loving difficult and mechanically challenged gameplay, wind will be fun for you
marble apex
Lol
violet violet
Or dead class 
kindred jewel
they made me wanna stack it too lmao
remote oracle
@simple sandal @violet violet @marble apex ty ty, i'll think about it, I'm nearly done leveling my KFM :P it's hard to manage both my classes rn since there's much for me to do after the merge on my main char <.<
but i assume both do like similar amount of dps?
marble apex
Gm means the amount of stacking of the main dmg skill
So stacking less tiger strikes than cks tiger strikes will do more dmg
remote oracle
oh okay and how do i know how to do that?
remote oracle
how many do i want ideally?
violet violet
What has your main been doing
remote oracle
like.. main skill wise? what build i'm running?
marble apex
Hes asking if you never stack skill before
violet violet
You seem unfamiliar with skill stacking
remote oracle
i'm new cuh, tf do i know XD
marble apex
Ight hold errything
Thsts what i thought
Ight
Wind kfm is best for beginners
Simple and ez to build
remote oracle
i mean i just got x3 helix (WL) since someone told me to buy more
marble apex
Check this link out and then come ask us questions
remote oracle
but like apart from that i don't really know much
violet violet
Hmm lol kfm is a hard class to recommend to a beginner
I thought you were like rerolling from a class you’ve been playing for a while
remote oracle
is okay, i'm gigachad KFM player now, built different
eager kiln
is okay, i'm gigachad KFM player now, built different
Brother to punch the damnnn mobs buy this guant for a cheap price. Recommended 1 hit. Check market F5 😂
violet violet
Shameless plug
remote oracle
Brother to punch the damnnn mobs buy this guant for a cheap price. Recommended 1...
how much
remote oracle
i'm hella broke, 570 dg left KEK
marble apex
Dojt buy that
violet violet
kindred jewel
i'm hella broke, 570 dg left KEK
you gonna need some mantras, only for 450 dg each
marble apex
Dont biy any gear before you actually play your build and see if you actually enjoy i
Otherwise you wasting gems
remote oracle
you gonna need some mantras, only for 450 dg each
a new liver for 2000dg too
violet violet
Wait aren’t you in eu
remote oracle
yup
kindred jewel
oh my
eager kiln
Wtf
violet violet
LMAO
marble apex
LMAO
remote oracle
supremacy
kindred jewel
hes mine
remote oracle
you're definetly buying my mantras then
or just use my own 😘
remote oracle
Ill fund the gear
what do i receive in return for giving you dg (don't say items cus that's a given, gotta be more than that)
violet violet
Tf else u want
eager kiln
If you want free items pm Wubble 😏
kindred jewel
what do i receive in return for giving you dg (don't say items cus that's a give...
you receive the item what do you mean
remote oracle
you receive the item what do you mean
bad deal, then i can just buy from anyone 😆
marble apex
kindred jewel
you get to talk with him in DMs for 3 minutes
violet violet
what's that gonna do
remote oracle
lmao fr
marble apex
on god
remote oracle
got enough cope alr
remote oracle
i'd tell him to push WL buffs if anything, useless class
marble apex
imagine
nah
actually
imagine
being wind kfm and not owning the wind god outfit
imagine being fire kfm and not owning full infernal lord fit
remote oracle
is really weak plugs guys 😭
violet violet
lol rownen has even less power in class buffs than he does pushing for things like rng box honestly
marble apex
we need a korean ambassador
marble apex
one legendary selector is all we need
but only when new ck comes out
otherwise its trash
remote oracle
we need a korean ambassador
EU staff gotta know their playerbase like we're starving over here 😭 apac gets everything
kindred jewel
don't worry I can confirm we wont be getting a legendary selector this month 
violet violet
or next month
marble apex
i dont even expect it this year
or ever
that something for koreans only
sadly
and if i get proved wrong its a win win
boom
checkmate
ngl imma settle for the 30 gm i cba to play 48 gm with purples only
too many skills get sacced
and i like having big burst with volcanic
violet violet
even if they one day get leg selector or similar equivalent, it'll prob be through event
which NA doesn't get
they'd never put it in like a BP
anytime soon
until they release like heroic skill books or something
kindred jewel
KR is currently in "10g gamba box with 0.2% chance to get a legendary box" level
remote oracle
there no fire kfm guide? 😭
marble apex
i can give you one
kindred jewel
but they're also getting some bits and pieces of legendary book fragments
marble apex
an actual guide
marble apex
Fire KFM Guide
Base build: stacking as many Tiger Strikes as you can
Base badges: Mystic Badge:Leading Palm CDR ; Soul Badge:Tiger Strike Increased Dmg
Yast Link for Fire The skills selected can be considered BASE KIT : https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU300725"&class="KungFuFighter"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAGrdk2gAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8p3GRZ8qZbSDyLCMLhOKBUCoQSgSs4hKYnAsmd4PJb2ByDUSRDJjzdCPYaN_E4pLUosrgksSS1MZtKEJgF2Tm5xU3AADmDCpPjwAAAA"
Main DMG Combo: Spam Tiger Strike(2) until youre out of foucs and hit Searing Blow(F) to recover focus back and repeat.
For all KFM regardless of build: Searing Palm stack and cooldown management is required to maintain DPS.
-Searing Palm Crit Dmg Increase (X) is required regardless of what you play: Each stack lasts for 10 seconds and can be stacked up to 4 times before resetting back to the 1st stage
-Each stack/stage of Searing Palm (SP) progressively increases your crit rate and crit dmg; IMPORTANT: on the 4th stage you have 100% crit rate.
-4th Stage: this is where fire kfm should be dealing their highest burst to maintain good dps(We'll come back to this later and how you should do the burst combo)
Entering each stage of SP requires certain skills: Any skill that reads: "Readies Searing Palm..." All skills that have this effect, when pressed, give about 2.5 to 3 seconds of time to hit X to apply a stack and enter the next stage of SP.
This is important when you get more accustomed to weaving in stacks/stages while doing pve content. (Sometimes situation dictates youll need to proc the SP earlier than the actual timer that shows on screen to prevent interruptions)
i hit enter
but im not done typing LMAO
violet violet
Fire KFM *Guide*
> Base build: stacking as many **Tiger Strikes** as you can
>...
nah that's it, that's the guide
i mean honestly for book priority that's pretty much right
the other books you just need for searing palm
then after that it's like a qol pov
remote oracle
don't forget to hit shift
errant basalt
just hold 2
remote oracle
@marble apex i'll come back tomorrow to read this since it's 1:20am here, please don't forget to hit shift aight? 😘
marble apex
dsicord has a 2000 cahracter limit
im boutta jut make a word doc
and link it
bruh
and i iaint paying for nitro
fuh dat sht
simple sandal
remote oracle
@marble apex ping me for that aight? 😂
marble apex
<@1162589809546625064> ping me for that aight? 😂
ye and maybe a mod can pin it
cuz i aint typing everything over again
im already confusing myself
😂
remote oracle
😂
charred niche
👍
marble apex
Fire KFM *Guide*
> Base build: stacking as many **Tiger Strikes** as you can
>...
Main Burst Combo opener: Depending on what Soul Core you are using you need to hit that first. Follow up will always be Volcanic Burst(V) and then Blue Buff (TAB) << Reason for this specific order: Soul core takes a few seconds to activate your AP buff, Tab skill cannot be anicancel in this version of the game but V can
-Ideally you will initiate the start of the burst opener, the Soul Core specifically, when you have however many seconds +1 of the Soul Core cast-length of stage 3 SP remaining. AFTER entering stage 4 you can do V Tab anicancel.
Example: Gubong casts in 5 seconds. At 6 seconds of stage 3 remaining you can cast it.
During stage 4 with base leading palm badge you'll hit the 1st leading palm and follow up with a searing blow (f) into smite(F), then chaos kick(4). You need to proc the searing blow with a Tiger Strike (2). You'll then hit Leading palm again and then enter back into stage 1. Make sure you time it so that yoy hit the 2nd Leading as stage 4 and the rest of the burst skills are about to end so you can proc SP again and renew the rotation
@remote oracle read the first part and then 2dn aprt
i cba with teh goolge doc
looks to confusing on google doc form cuz its all blocky and stuck together text
obviously didnt cover it all but most of those questions i think youll ask anyways so we just gonna go over them as they come
tbh the rest is covered in Bunny's guide as far as what skills and the different CDR seconds
violet mica
@marble apex when you had 48 GM ck what rotation did you use?
marble apex
<@1162589809546625064> when you had 48 GM ck what rotation did you use?
R2ff and hit comet strike 44 whenever off cd
Not worth doing 48 with only purples imo
simple sandal
Not worth doing 48 with only purples imo
for now 
violet mica
R2ff and hit comet strike 44 whenever off cd
Did you use comet badge then for 590% damage?
marble apex
Did you use comet badge then for 590% damage?
Double comets badge
elder topaz
the competition is tough 
marble apex
So basically
Nothings changed
Unless there was some kfm not present
I be top 5 or 6 depending on who fucks up first
Assuming the wb TTK remains at 2min i think i can start doing wb again.
Not time consuming at all 
lucid herald
Fire KFM *Guide*
> Base build: stacking as many **Tiger Strikes** as you can
>...
This is the common build, but it's not the only build. There KFMs that use Pulverize and there is also my badge-less build.
Nothing wrong with what you wrote out. Just pointing it out for folks that might want to do something else
It's not the only viable path
hybrid dove
Thats like live server old builds
There are so many builds in KFM. Biggest branches are like 3 though. Wind/fire/punch
tulip spruce
i saw a swift strike kfm roaming around somewhere with blue books doing like 15k dps nb
hybrid dove
For wind style, try to check which skill activate which skill by crit. That will give you what kinda anicancel you can try. For example, straight jab purple activate ck if crit. But u cant rf anicancel directly. You need to acticate ck one more from swift strike. Then r2ff anicancel is available. First ck is from swift, second is from str jab.
Many skills amare anicancel-able with lmb. Try to take benefit and build your combos
remote oracle
@marble apex alright tyvm, i'll take a look after i went to the gym
violet mica
the competition is tough <:worrysweat:398047794021007362>
This is the combined NA server now?
elder topaz
This is the combined NA server now?
yep!
eager kiln
Damn.... not a single KFM from Bamboo Village made the list ;_;
With 1min+ fight for wb. Fire KFMs can burst a lot in early.
elder topaz
yeah only myself and ayoma are from viridian 
eager kiln
Save some gold friends. 10g leg box rng incoming
violet mica
I'm unable to play due to travel. What's the merger been like so far?
eager kiln
I'm unable to play due to travel. What's the merger been like so far?
Annoying world chat bullying ayumi. 50+ players afk in mushin. 😂
elder topaz
I'm unable to play due to travel. What's the merger been like so far?
way more parties in f7, game feels more lively... for now 
violet mica
Annoying world chat bullying ayumi. 50+ players afk in mushin. 😂
Must feel like live back in the day. Does the F7 dungeon finder work now?
elder topaz
Must feel like live back in the day. Does the F7 dungeon finder work now?
dont really need to use the dungeon finder tho since everyones in the same world
eager kiln
I'm unable to play due to travel. What's the merger been like so far?
Today in SSG. 2 Leg book box has been drop. A free to play player summoner got leg book and open a gold sunflower. Many people grinding SSG now 📒
violet mica
Today in SSG. 2 Leg book box has been drop. A free to play player summoner got l...
That's the new dungeon with the tentacle pirate?
violet mica
Did we get silverfrost badges and the GM effects for purple now too?
real seal
Save some gold friends. 10g leg box rng incoming
Where was this
violet mica
In 2 and half weeks
Will we get Leg CK with that same patch?
elder topaz
Must feel like live back in the day. Does the F7 dungeon finder work now?
in viridian this was empty around reset 
craggy briar
Leading palm 700k damage ?
real seal
Will we get Leg CK with that same patch?
nah i wanna play fire and pul
hybrid dove
curious if we have korean here except me
tulip spruce
vietnamese gang rise up
steep storm
vietnamese gang rise up
du ma gang
simple sandal
curious if we have korean here except me
Im a white washed korean if that counts
🤣
kindred jewel
marble apex
Im a white washed korean if that counts
shiii im a white washed viet
we the yin yang
marble apex
If anyone knows who BlackTea is on na please send them here
That build is not it brutha
Everything was looking like a wind build until I saw tiger strike
eager kiln
B>>>Pulverize NA
tulip spruce
what's the best wind/comet KFM's openings? for me it's
C >X >X (CD reduction) > Fighting spirit > 44 into some rotations and using everlasting to get my lvl 2 up. then i do X again later to get lvl 3 and by then C or QE to get lvl 4
simple sandal
oh i do soulcore , tab , everlasting blow , x , 44 ,
for really weak mobs like for mushin tower
tulip spruce
do u have shrouded shadow? isn't the cd reduction in everlasting valuable? or nah not rly
simple sandal
u can use shrouded , i just dont use it
tulip spruce
u know i always forget to soul core
i feel like the animation of it makes me lose a kick
simple sandal
while its charging up u can use tab at the same time almost
so by the time your core actually appears your tab animation is done and you hit them in like 1 second burst
for big numbers
marble apex
For certain soul cores
Aero tried telling me that and im like. Ye lemme just make that 5 sec cast disappear
simple sandal
oh yeah i use poh for the daze since it synergizes with comet additional damage bonus
tulip spruce
i have tempest rn cause of stats and for some reason it was like only 300dg
now all the cores are so expensive
marble apex
Not to be that guy but
You should have at least a gubong and a poh
But ye. I think i swiped all the cheap cores for kfm recently
I got poh hae and gubong all rolled. In case I want to have different utility
I really want a purple mookwan tho
I got a blue one and the iframe is nice
Hindsight. Also a hexwood is nice too
For emergency only
You can chain them together 😏
warm pivot
i guess id wanna swap the crit rate for crit damage right?
kindred jewel
no you just go double crit
simple sandal
i guess id wanna swap the crit rate for crit damage right?
you keep the crit rate and reroll accuracy to crit damage
@marble apex have u tried thruster punch?
marble apex
<@1162589809546625064> have u tried thruster punch?
No. But i saw you do good dkg in he with it
Not bad not bad
civic tinsel
what's the best wind/comet KFM's openings? for me it's
C >X >X (CD reduction) > ...
I start 2rf smite x pivot x 💀
outer crest
what's the best wind/comet KFM's openings? for me it's
C >X >X (CD reduction) > ...
I do C>X>X>X and skip to lvl2 and then volcanic burst anicancelled into comets 
It changes a bit when the boss immediately attacks, counter first and then v and then F to get the v cooldown
SoulCore -> Fighting Spirit -> C->XXX
fighting spirit first to guaranteed the shrouded shadow C cooldown
tulip spruce
back when i was running smite + pivot i was starting my fights with SS -> smite -> X -> pivot -> X -> 4,4
i haven't tried the volcanic burst ever cause someone said it was bugged
like it doesn't do damage
cobalt lion
C > X 1> X> X 2> 1 + RB > X 3 > V > Tab 》》 R-F 
outer crest
C > X 1> X> X 2> 1 + RB > X 3 > V > Tab 》》 R-F <:bns_blush:1198525068007981156>
yh this will be mine in silverfrost once I get cyclone kick palm cooldown 
skip straight to stage 3
outer crest
C > X 1> X> X 2> 1 + RB > X 3 > V > Tab 》》 R-F <:bns_blush:1198525068007981156>
though doesn't fighting spirit + stage 3 go above 100% crit ? So kind of wasting those stats 
tulip spruce
C > X 1> X> X 2> 1 + RB > X 3 > V > Tab 》》 R-F <:bns_blush:1198525068007981156>
do you use fighting spirit or spirit concentration? 50% or 80%
for tab
eager kiln
Does fighting drains HP even you dont have life drain cards?
kindred jewel
it does
hybrid dove
Fighting op
wanton herald
Does fighting drains HP even you dont have life drain cards?
Yes. With cards its hiper super op
eager kiln
B>>> Pivot kick NA
simple sandal
anyone know how many r2ff you should be doing in 10 seconds?
I just got straight jab and doing like 8 r2ff in 10 sec , is it possible to do more?
marble apex
just went back to wind
30 gm ck on double comet vs the 24 gm ts is 1k more dps diff
48gm is 2k dif vs 3k with only 30gm
simple sandal
wait which ones the highest dmg
simple sandal
oh tiger strike
marble apex
I just got straight jab and doing like 8 r2ff in 10 sec , is it possible to do m...
so each purple ck is another 2k dps
accoridng to my tests
😂
hmm
much easier to do 4 comets
with the setting
simple sandal
Hmmm looking at ur video it seems like im about the same speed
marble apex
Hmmm looking at ur video it seems like im about the same speed
i think this is max speed
at least with normal settings
no idea if using macro makes them come out faster
🤷
cobalt lion
@outer crest
simple sandal
that looks so fun 😮
outer crest
I just got straight jab and doing like 8 r2ff in 10 sec , is it possible to do m...
yh thats about the limit, can do comet strikes at start of stage 4 and again before it ends with that speed
tulip spruce
<@422931002592067585>
what's the best strategy to level up? lvl 75 O___O
kindred jewel
max exp roll on everything and then live in msp
violet mica
48gm is 2k dif vs 3k with only 30gm
Are you saying the difference between 30gm CK and 48gm CK is only 1k?
marble apex
Are you saying the difference between 30gm CK and 48gm CK is only 1k?
no its more than that
i forgot to edit thatmessage
😂
each ck about 2k more dps
violet mica
The new badges in silverfrost have comet increase and ck increase on them right? Or do you still need to choose?
marble apex
The new badges in silverfrost have comet increase and ck increase on them right?...
has both
also i went back and looked at the charts
actually 3k dps per ck
violet mica
Think I can fit in 48 CK with 1 comet strike
kindred jewel
you can use 1 comet alongside 48 GM CK yes
marble apex
Think I can fit in 48 CK with 1 comet strike
thats how i did it
i sacced counter when i was doing it
😂
eager kiln
Counter? What's that? XD
Sacrifice his counter purple for another ck.
cyan wigeon
Does anyone know if there was a better way to ani cancel rf? I think there was a setting to toggle?
kindred jewel
Skill use on hold maybe? But its on by default
default RF is generally ass, it gets better with legendary RF
kindred jewel
I dunno how people are using RF rn, I deemed it lost cause for myself
cyan wigeon
okie, thank you for your help Arionell!
kindred jewel
Im just using R2FF while running jab
cyan wigeon
how do you get 2 F's to trigger?
kindred jewel
if you do an R first then a 2, they get stacked
so you can do two Fs in a row
a cheaper variant of that is R2FRF
kindred jewel
or just use blood strike 
cyan wigeon
i just bought the jab combo book haha
kindred jewel
nothings wrong with that, superior personal DPS
cyan wigeon
im stuck for the foreseeable future 
kindred jewel
but you can stick to 2rf 24/7 with it
real seal
Wtb 3mantra true bracelet NA
kindred jewel
my DPS goes up with it but meh
I dont like switching my hand position to R2FF
Ill probably go back to blood strike since Im running with clannies that are significantly more geared than me
but generally lacking bleed
simple sandal
I just swapped back to bloodstrike , bleed is just too good anyway
kindred jewel
bleed = hidden dps increase anyway
simple sandal
Yeah and 2rf is more comfortable for me
But im sure i could get used to r2ff if i practice more idk
kindred jewel
Im using the chicken finger technique
put R into your soul core keybind
so it will feel like you're just using 2rff, easy to switch between the two as well mid combat
marble apex
I bought straight jab and didnt even see a dps increase lol
the dps increase comes from doing more comets you dingle berry
outer crest
its more dps without comet too from my testing, try entering stage 4 and doing 10 seconds of 2rf then another test with 10 seconds of r2ff
tested rf too and that was the worst of the 3
rf only makes sense if at the end of stage4/blue and you really need to cooldown comet first
charred niche
you guys are nerds
kindred jewel
it should always net you more dps, its simply less inputs for more kicks
but you gotta compare a 0 bleed party to understand its true value
kindred jewel
you guys are nerds
charred niche
you can apply with guiding fist
kindred jewel
yea I rather kms
charred niche
if you want to drink 5 monster energies
charred niche
thats life
charred niche
so
16 kicks vs 13-14
so
more comet strikes
if you have legendary swift strike 2rf should be better always
r2ff for heavy comet stack
has someone done the math
outer crest
I do 4 -> RMB -> 4 and don't pay attention to actually managing bleed. If you're cometting every 10 seconds (should be doing that easily) then that automatically keeps bleed up 
kindred jewel
then yea probably
charred niche
zod is big brain
but are you cometing every 10 sec?
in real fight
dont think so
simple sandal
i think also its because
when i try doing r2ff during stage 3 and it doesnt crit it messes up my rhythm
charred niche
theres also that
outer crest
but are you cometing every 10 sec?
I think fastest we can reset comet completely from 1 cooldown to the next is 7 seconds in stage 4 if we r2ff and don't have to do anything else
around 10 seconds is doable with just 2rf
simple sandal
yeah with 2rf i do 1 comet every stage still
feral shell
you need a hall effect keyboard for easy rf, jhong showed it in a video
have the F key set to use jab pressing down and ck releasing
simple sandal
that sounds dope
kindred jewel
yea its a very cool keyboard
simple sandal
kfm gameplay be like
candid tinsel
Has someone tried esc anicanceling rf? Used to know a guy who did that on wl on live and spent more time on dummies than actually playing the game
errant basalt
is that what they told you? "anicancelling?", because wl doesnt have anicanceling in their main rotation they were probably spending hours fine tuning their gcd cheats 👍
all these people saying they can do 2rf in 10s but no proof
14*
rf and r2ff both 16 f max in 10s unless you start with q/e f proc r2ff is like 5% more dps compared to rf
simple sandal
14*
oh i just checked i do like 12 2rf in each stage but 14 in 10 seconds without applying searing palm.
makes sense about 2 seconds to apply
real seal
Wtb 3mantra true bracelet NA
simple sandal
Ive seen them listed for 11-14k but no idea what theyre selling for
marble apex
whats the current price of purple tiger strike? for NA
All the ones I got for 11 to 12k mark
Easily
Super cheap
And those are all within past momth
wispy bloom
thanks
marble apex
thanks
some can be done in pm as well. people post high price in f5 but if you message them they give lower price
so always look out for those too
🫡
wispy bloom
i was mainly curious because i have a kfm alt that i retired and didnt get the selector bp with him so he's kinda bricked, and i wanted to know how much would it cost to unbrick him
craggy briar
accoridng to my tests
How does the 2rff activate?
marble apex
How does the 2rff activate?
?
craggy briar
Kk
simple sandal
I’m only able to do 2rf > 2rf > 2rf . I don’t see a second f
If you have purple straight jab the combo is r2ff not 2rff. 2rff doesnt activate the second cyclone kick
marble apex
If you have purple straight jab the combo is r2ff not 2rff. 2rff doesnt activate...
having fun?
😂
in skyhaven
errant basalt
oh i just checked i do like 12 2rf in each stage but 14 in 10 seconds without ap...
ah yea that makes sense then you should be able to 13 per stage even after applying sp
r2ff is 16 f in 10s even after applying sp/bb
same with rf
errant basalt
if you can get 16 r2ff you can get 13 2rf
cut off is like at around 30 ping
well with proper roaring avenging ani cancel
and smite
dont think possible with pivot
simple sandal
yeah im using everlasting blow and roaring tiger
🥹
im playing with 70 ms tho so idk
if that matters
gonna try again later
marble apex
😎
errant basalt
wtf you shouldnt be able to get 16f in 10s with 70ms 🤔
well the auto gcd is stronk on neo maybe thats why
dam maybe 14 2rf and 17 r2ff is possible idk
errant basalt
yea that works but i saw your video aswell but didnt see the 70 ping
crazy 13 2rf wasnt possible for me at 40 ping on live
guess neo has mega gcd or something 🤔
craggy briar
If you have purple straight jab the combo is r2ff not 2rff. 2rff doesnt activate...
Thanks I never tried the combo till now. i like double kick
candid tinsel
is that what they told you? "anicancelling?", because wl doesnt have anicancelin...
Nah I know for a fact they anicanceled with esc.
errant basalt
Nah I know for a fact they anicanceled with esc.
i know bms did that but wasnt sure if people were meming or not, how does it work you got video?
wait on live? bullsh1t neo maybe
ah wait wtf it was a thing
tf
fm did it aswell apparently
dam is this how people are doing 20 rf someone test
candid tinsel
Yeah I think he was shadow wl? Instead of ice
I tried it aswell
But so long ago dont remember anything
errant basalt
well I know one of the wl specs did like 30% more dmg with gcd reduction cheats class was basically unplayable without it
candid tinsel
Need to ask him tbh. I couldn't do it proper. Hitting esc for me felt weird af
He played neo too as kfm and did way more 2rfs than me
Dunno if he did same here
errant basalt
well you can just rebind esc to a diff button
ye was weird how jinfulee dps was much higher than other wind kfms maybe thats how
candid tinsel
Id guess after f ye
errant basalt
i assume it would be right after 2 and r aswell if it lets you anicancel sooner than normal
since its all ani cancel
simple sandal
ok yeah its hard asf lol , idk seems way slower but could be because im not used to it
maybe if i get that hall effect keyboard and map the upstroke to be escape on 2 and f
errant basalt
ye people are telling me its bullsh1t so
the menu popping up is debilitating aswell
also the whole esc sh1t on live was some fm cast z sh1t not actually rotation
and wl people are telling me esc was never a thing for them on live so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
apparently it does something for bms on neo tho
it resets lmb tho interesting
i wonder if this is op on fire kfm
errant basalt
ye idk they are just saying tab tab alt tab and hold macro
maybe this was back when the game was in its infancy before qol changes and they didn't play
ah they are saying 4 had castime
so you had to cancel it or something
ye it was an anicancel i guess technically
its like if kfm comet hit before cast finished and u had to time it to cut the animation time
well the first hit
ah I think KR only
wl was never this bad on west release apparently
ye I doubt relevant for kfm but who knows
marble apex
maybe if i get that hall effect keyboard and map the upstroke to be escape on 2 ...
Set side button of mouse
violet violet
WTS NA
candid tinsel
Well he is saying just that you cant esc anicancel in neo but could in Live, mostly cause it brings the menu instantly.
errant basalt
yea interesting good to know, thank you!
candid tinsel
The whole point of esc anicancel was that pressing esc would stop your character from doing anything, including casting skills. Pressing esc again would open the menu.
The first esc would be used to esc anicancel. But in neo they changed the behavior of esc to immediately open the menu.
Thats what he added 😁
flat nebula
@cobalt lionhey, you play in KR server right?
cobalt lion
<@335134316692766721>hey, you play in KR server right?
Yeah, that's right. wind KFM
flat nebula
Yeah, that's right. wind KFM
unrelated to KFM, but could you share if silverfrost purple weapons/accesories are only available as drops from dungeons?
or can you craft them or get them easier somehow
cobalt lion
<:bns_tongue:1198525061380976712> unrelated to KFM, but could you share if silve...
@flat nebula
neo KR
tight knot
Can you only get silverfrost badges from upgrading?
marble apex
I wonder if it was a bug
becasue initially the new badge didnt include pulverize dmgh
🤔
maybe the devs forgot about it at first
tight knot
My alts are going to love account wide insignias
tight knot
Gotta pre-farm special insignias on alts
marble apex
id rather not wear myself down like that
i play too many games to want to invest in any more kfm alts
cobalt lion
i play too many games to want to invest in any more kfm alts
Hahaha
marble apex
if any kfm wanna help me spar lemme know
im alwayus down to 1v1
yesterday @tulip finch whoop my ass so i need more practice
tulip finch
flat nebula
<@116221890737078272>
ty!
marble apex
I just bought some pvp skills
ok next time we both free lets practice
playing supervive right now
simple sandal
Did you also get pvp skills? Feels like poop trying to kill people with pve skills
Even if you can kill them in a few hits
marble apex
Did you also get pvp skills? Feels like poop trying to kill people with pve skil...
i have green book build fopr pvp
simple sandal
Ye haha
simple sandal
Prob good enough? Lets see
simple sandal
Bruh same , i didnt even equip it since its gonna cost a lot to extract
marble apex
ye
simple sandal
Oh wot
simple sandal
Its also one more reason to trigger someone
They check who killed them and he looks like some scub with green books
marble apex
Nah
i never underestimate people until they prove me otherwise
some kfm and des were fighting so i watch them and the des decide to kill me im like ok
so i came back and 1v1 the dez
he almost died to 2 cc and air combo
staring at me from outside the safe zone
simple sandal
hmmm it seems like 1 leggy skill is like an automatic gm 30 , so if u only can get one for awhile then its probably best to go 1 leggy cyclone book and 3 purple ck , and the rest comet strike unless ur doing full ck build
outer crest
Pulv in the silverfrost badge 
leggy pulv + leggy cylone + leggy swift strike should be highest dps then
throwing in a pulv at the end of normal r2ff ani cancels nicely into next r2ff
tight knot
Its an automatic 12 gm
pale sedge
its not 30? yast shows 30
if u choose the legy skill 12 gm gets added. if u increase legy counter by 1 which means two legys 18 gets added, resulting in your 30
pliant bone
Hi guys, do you use macro for fire? just out of curiosity
marble apex
Hi guys, do you use macro for fire? just out of curiosity
doesnt need it
can use the in game setting
for press and hold 2
violet mica
Hey, your speed looks way fater than mine... how do you not lose any focus when doing that?
simple sandal
Hey, your speed looks way fater than mine... how do you not lose any focus when ...
Im hitting the focus recovery dummy on the second floor in mushin hall , theres a room upstairs with the dummy inside
its good to help you practice the rhythm without worrying about focus
violet mica
Im hitting the focus recovery dummy on the second floor in mushin hall , theres ...
oh!! I thought i was missing somethin xD
hoary prawn
WTS NA cheap
pliant bone
a quick question, whats the difference between the purple and blue counter?
blue shows status effects 3 while purple just status effect
pliant bone
@kindred jewelgot it thanks
marble apex
just did a parse
2m32 seconds for both tests
same rotation as far as soul core, volcanic, tab use
r2ff did 3k less than 2rf
at 36gm ck
eager kiln
Something wrong with volcanic? Quite OP 🤔
marble apex
Something wrong with volcanic? Quite OP 🤔
?
real seal
🥲
hybrid dove
Yeah saw it, but many kfm already has it and leg CK coming soon 🙁
I dont have DG atm neither haha
hybrid dove
Yup
pliant bone
whats leg
simple sandal
legendary
hybrid dove
yes leg coming soon
🙂 might start to do tiger soon for fun.
giving up my WB reward soon yay
marble apex
giving up my WB reward soon yay
i think you will be ok
it took a noob like me a week to get the rotation down optimally
violet violet
WTS NA
marble apex
anyone understand the wording of this skill ?
the part where it says 50% focus dmg and removes freeze: I understand the focus dmg but removes THEIR freeze?
or is freeze different from being within the ice block?
removes freeze on me if my feet are stuck ?
tight knot
Crazy FM synergy
kindred jewel
it removes their freeze that you've applied (or by a FM)
to deal that focus damage
afaik
it doesn't remove the freeze debuff applied on you
hybrid dove
the part where it says 50% focus dmg and removes freeze: I understand the focus ...
For example if mob is frozen by fm skill, it removes the freeze. I remember it could remove ice from FM self resist in live server. Didnt check neo
marble apex
aah
okay okay
i have a pvp set made if anyone wanna have fun witht me
using the purple skills that i already own
simple sandal
i have a pvp set made if anyone wanna have fun witht me
bruh i shouldve thought about it more when making my pvp set
so when i equip my pvp set i still retain the other skills that are used for pve and pvp
marble apex
so when i equip my pvp set i still retain the other skills that are used for pve...
ye this why wind pve build is good for pvp too
cuz if you dont use volcanic smite and chained mace
all the default skills are cc skills
can still chain cc and hit a good dmg combo on people
simple sandal
true , i gotta practice pvp combos again im probably rusty asf
marble apex
What is this forbidden treasure chest
Is that the rjg boxes we can try and get leg skil from ?
real seal
No idea man
real seal
Need rownen out to confirm this
civic tinsel
Rownen we're summoning you 
outer crest
they'll do the usual and slow roll out the announcement to reduce outrage
and then Rownen will pretend he was too busy
marble apex
meh
its whatever
i softcore quit anyways
😂 barely play the game now
jst log in do 3 daily mission. if monarch happen to spawn i go .
thats abuot it
kindred jewel
I've been told
by the staff
that we have to wait for the maintenance
its over
violet mica
can do 4 c x 4
for what?
real seal
oh now you guys need Rownen <:catKEK:1219621509639700600>
Not we need rownen… we need the rng boxes can check marketspread and everyday someone's quiting so many people can't do ssg but in Korea it was easy because everyone had jinsoyun or good card sets to do the dungeon
outer crest
Not we need rownen… we need the rng boxes can check marketspread and everyda...
Its a lost cause, they are incapable of doing the events. Look at them struggling to send out rewards for a run of the mill outfit event
kindred jewel
that was a joke from few days ago, and the context was asking him some questions
outer crest
how hard can exporting some names from excel be 
real seal
marble apex
how hard can exporting some names from excel be <a:Huh:948388529543720981>
you underestimate dev
they outsource the work to cheap labor
halfass job gets done
😂
violet violet
mfw this is like the only game i wish they copy pasted from kr and they couldn’t even do that right
simple sandal
marble apex
https://tenor.com/view/sis-sister-love-i-love-you-i-love-you-sis-gif-27355442206...
you missed it btw
we was doing some 1v1s at mushin
i learned how to tehc chase with comet daze 😎
simple sandal
Uh oh pro pvper incoming
simple sandal
Sins are hard asf even practicing against them all day and night back in live
simple sandal
Ye
marble apex
i learned also
summoner is wack to fight
you shouldve seen me
i kept hitting the cat accidewntally
eventually wore her hp down but DAMN
😂
simple sandal
I know its rage inducing , for them u run firestorm kick or w.e its called
simple sandal
I wonder whats more damage tho
Like a full stunlock combo or just v xx44
Because id rather just do that lol
marble apex
well
4 only does good dmg if its purple
for some reason
even though on the skill text it says all version do the same dmg
dont know why
might be a text error
simple sandal
Ye prinz killed me in 1 shot with it , i tried it on him and he died too
marble apex
so i just use 4 daze instead and do 2rf spam to wear em down
r2rf also aero told me is good
marble apex
Like a full stunlock combo or just v xx44
if its in 6v6 where people got their main gear on
i think its better to hit the 44 when you can
just cuz of how beefy we all our naturally
takes a few full stun lock combos to kill people
violet violet
if its in 6v6 where people got their main gear on
are you practicing pvp for 6v6 or skyhaven?
marble apex
are you practicing pvp for 6v6 or skyhaven?
Neither
I just do it for fun because I rarely play the actual game.
If there wss arena id be in queue forever
But neo is wack
violet violet
ohh. i enjoyed 6v6 but just hated how useless kfm felt besides stalling since we do halved damage
didn't really do skyhaven so idk about damage there
marble apex
The few people I've actually killed in skyhaven
Only once waa done hsing my weak pvp gear and green book skills
The rest i just cheat and build up stacks of sp and hit them with leading palm on main gear
violet violet
kinda sucks cause a lot of our pvp skills stop at green or blue
or not a lot but
a good amount
puts us at a disadvantage against people who stack purple main damage skills
aka sin lol
and fm
marble apex
Fr
Fm is hard to get a head start on
A few button clicks and your hp is almost gone in skyahven
violet violet
only cause ice rain pierces
so can't just hold counter 😂
but if they macro rt2 then that's a free iframe
if they know what they're doing then they can blow you up pretty fast
marble apex
My best combo is using shrouded to close gap and apply last stack then iframe and hit x and 3 then qe again and 44
If it hits then those 3 skills can kill almost anyone