#Kung Fu Master
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im disappointed that out of all the specs we could have had
Besides the thing here is ck vs ck + comet
these were the ones they gave us
Not comet vs some comet that old bns had and this doesn't
old wind comet u could 4 f4f and stuff
as well as anicancel lmb and cyclones in between
Which doesn't sound faster, but it does sound like all your focus is deleted
I'm dropping this and going to sleep. Enjoy 
yea but old game focus much less of an issue
due to various buffs and effects from equipment
Well either way that's something that doesn't exist here so it's pointless in the current wind build conversation
It's either ck or ck comet
yeah
cyclone badge is undertuned
i see, ty
comet is fun and strong. WTS Purple Comet Strike: Additional Damage NA 🍌
fire is the best build, don't believe whoah propaganda
Fire would be fun if u could move freely
I don't think I will have fun playing with 100 ping xS
wts eu
EU, WTS 2 purple comets, DM
any know a good rotation for fire kfm? i feel im weak because i do something wrong with rotation
B>>>Pulverize NA 3k
B>>>Shroud NA 3k
WTS Purple Comet Strike: Additional Damage NA 🍌
is it good at least?
i got a buddy debating on deleting his KFM cuz that's the lvl 50 purp he got
it can be OP, but it is hard nerfed in KR. So it will be nerfed so hard
just dont understand how to use it
what is lotus kick? thats not in the game is it?
new cyclone kick
u need to pair up with new comet strike
additional cast
lotus kick is trash by itself
mine is sitting there for nothing. Can't even test due to bug
it's trash even with new comet
i am noob, so don't listen mine. 🙂
you don't run lotus kick period
with new comet, it's basically the same setup at comet build but with growling tiger for the focus recovery
since new comet eats up focus like crazy
not that though... that's why lotus kick is needed..
ugh... lol good luck.
bug.
if it's bugged, how does @ashen scarab know it eats focus?
KR
yast
well bbr is my new home now
do any of yall have a pvp fire kfm loadout that doesnt make me want to end it all
B>>>Pulverize NA 3k
Ive been thinking about it. And its definitely not worthless. Might be good for a super budget kfm build if you cant afford anything else. If the dmg is so low I can seethe books selling for cheap 
I do get the idea behind them wanting us to pair lotus with new comet. Its a cool idea.
Pair it with a cyclone kick focus recovery and you can do a lazy spam
Would've been nice if they had the new ck as green too but I guess they made it blue only cuz of the small cdr for sp
I think our fire kfm textbook would be @lucid herald ive seen him play and I think his knowledge of the class is well rounded. Try asking them
WTS tiger stike 6x NA
I am going to be removing it
I recently got told that the 20%cdmg does not apply unless the target is affected by the pull.
Waste of a skill
Ill replace it with an extra comet and use 4 comets until I get more purple ck
WTB shroud N.A. 3.6k
Me too shroud 3.6k
I thought it's just the damage doesn't apply but still got that 20% cdmg? gonna tested it later when I get on
i think people might miscalculate the effect because the crit dmg is additive to other sources of crit dmg
so the increase ends up being less than 10%
yo how much does it take for fire KFM to outscale wind? ik after a bunch of tiger strike stacking it does more
Didnt get an answer on twitch. Anyone check to see if 2rff works with shin kick on a boss grab?
WTS tiger stike 6xNA cheap if buy all
4 left
It never outscales Wind. Fire is weaker than Wind. It's just easier to play
ahhh i see
fire is always in stage 3/4 and cant drop palm so u dont need to build accuracy, making it stronger
That line of thinking only applies to content that you're over gearing. If you're doing Mujin or above, you absolutely need accuracy.
In addition, Fire isn't permanently in stages 3/4 like some of you seem to suggest. At the very least, it shouldn't be.
Also, take STG3 to Tree and tell me what your Crate ends up being :)
fire whaling is probably way more dmg than wind whaling
so it becomes more of a matter of how large are ur funds
any pro fire kfm can tell me a perfect rotation? i feel like i do wrong mine
goddlsc on yt
thx
he do it too fast xD cant see
.5 speed
actually true 😄
WTS
No
can anyone help me with price?
def at least 110k doesnt matter that its not double crit kfms dont need it as much is my guess especially if you take into account how much people were bidding for time stream gauntlets
wow that much?
hover it let me see what the max cdmg couldve been?
cuz if thats on the high end then yea that much at least
211
but if its a bit towards the low specturm then id lower
I am selling slowly, but just curious so
hmm ok so 80% of what couldve been. not bad tbh . did you craft that or go from siren?
crafted
oooh thats pretty luck man nice job !
temporary weapon for me., but it is actually really good lol
so you plan on selling it? id be interested in it tbh
def couldnt buy it right now tho dg taking too long to get into account
nothing to hurry so
ill pm you a number let me know if you think thats fair and ill slowly get the dg for it
sure. I just started post, so I need to get some sense from offers
maybe will sell in few days (1~2day)
u quitting ?
nah just going slow. I can't swipe card quickly to gamble bc of new system, so kinda demotivated lol
You shouldn't pay money 💰 in this game .. u have to be free to play as soon every one will quit the game
yeah even taeil so

Bro what do you mean 110K for that weapon lmao
did you read ?
Read what
ok
I've read the whole convo
WB weapon prices are indeed a good indicative of why this isn't worth that much
That weapon can fetch 15-20K Max even on NA
ight i respect your take on that but i think you undervalue the weapon and resources used to actually get to true. vs a timestream which would be well over 110k
Getting to Legendary weapon is the expensive part. Taking to Awakening & True is not nearly as expensive. In addition, just because someone took a piece of equipment to True, doesn't mean it's instantly expensive. True Hexwood Necklaces with BIS stats have been selling for 20K or less pre-patch.
Are we playing the same game? In what world is a HP Cdmg True Hexwood weapon worth a similar amount to a WB weapon?
we both made our arugments and i can see that you pretty firm on yours. good talk. i dont see the need to reiterate or rephrase what i already said above
What you said makes no sense. Saying KFM doesn't need crit rate as much is just something people parrot around. KFM absolutely needs crit rate as much, if not more than certain classes/specs.
@hybrid dove A double Crit Hexwood weapon was failing to sell on EU for 25K. Don't waste your gold listing for absurd amounts. As a low spender/F2P, I would just keep it.
Hmm price checking for gamlbing so lol
I don't even list usually
Sell to this idiot @reef island Just convince him this weapon can one shot tree he will do for 110
Too bad he can't transfer server to Heaven's reach lol
Ik......
We pray for him
KFM stuff won't sell like fm or bm
Orelse he can sell and i can find a account for him
ohhh smart way but his insignia and card GG
Yea..... I was thinking about just buy like a $100-300 usd level 55 account
And just transfer his stuff to heavens reach
just buy a max lvl on g2g
and whale the rest of the missing stuff like insignia. card stho obv gotta grind
I was going to reroll to DES, but insignia lol
Yooo that happen to me yesterday
I want to buy something
NC stopped me for legendary book gambling
But gems are "pending"
NC is good company
I dm u
Empty servers cost nc a lot of money to run so I'd expect server merges soon anyway
They don't care about us but they sure as heck care about loosing money
Anyone wanna buy my heoric Swift strike quick for me?
NA
are you switching to that gold pulverize?
@acoustic cargo if its gamba it’s always him 
am i crazy for thinking this thing should get a soul core slot on asencion?
Idk u can test it 
it will not
It won't
WTB purple swift strike , pivot kick
WTB pulverize
wont even get an ascent stone 😭
SOLD
WTB purple cyclone kick NA 🍌
B>>>Pulverize 2.5k
B>> Concentration 2.5k
i lol'
wts EU

Whats the highest dps team comp - 6 kfms (tiger) with heel of healing? 
WTS
WTS EU
bns has so much mobility that im surprised they never made a obstacle course like challenge with ladderboards, hazzards and stuff.
that sounds fun
WTB NA > TRUE POH RING and TRUE SIREN NECK CRIT DMG/CRIT 3 MANTRA MESSAGE ME
anyone explain this to me please? i remember there was someone who had done some tests on this. but i cant seem to tell in combat chat. seems to be a chance for the add dmg i guess. cuz i hit a single crit and looked to see that value it says but it didnt show
i thought maybe it means chance for crit but the add dmg is also rng ?
did a few more hits to see if i see that added dmg but maybe its already incorporated to the final value ?
I think I had friends test this a while back, but it’s like the one on live where yes they are both separate, the crits from the card set can, but does not always, give crit dmg
@fathom forge
Pretty sure onrush just does not appear in combat log if thats what ur confused about, it is absolutely working though unless it was bricked this patch
Onrush additional damage appears on activation of the buff and only once. However, no damage will show up if the mob has 1 hp, i.e. training dummy.
Basically the onrush additional damage only can do at most whatever the remaining hp of the target.
cool info. thank you
WTB ~ HSB Pivot Kick 3k / Swift Strike 5k , WTS Tiger Strike Badge (V) +5 max CD / Pierce PMO or trade for similar stats for a Cyclone Badge (V).
let them waste their time selling
WTB CYCLONE KICK PURPLE
WTS SOUL BADGE COMET +4 MAX STAT ACC HP CDM or TRADE whit A CK BADGE max stat
WTS COMET PURPLE
WTB purple cyclone kick NA 🍌
does the new comet strike any good?
It’s so good it doesn’t work
damn
WTB purple pivot kick 3k
WTB EU: straight jab combo
WTS EU: Purple Tiger Strike
WTB trash purple books 1.1k each pm EU
WTS NA
WTB 2 CYCLONE KICK + VIRTUOUS SOUL BADE
WTS +4 COMET BADGE ACC HP CRIT DAMAGE
Can sell you my cyclone when I get my bound one from bp selector 
bp level 25
so purple buff is a major dps increase than purple comet strike? i mean my comet strike is doing 30% of my dps overall, but i cant really tell what is going to contribute more
WTB Purple Cyclone Kicks on NA

WTS NA: Blood strike
WTS / For how much would you buy this?
Wtb roaring tiger cdr eu 2k or pm offer
WTS EU Offer
WTS NA
WTB pivot kick 3k Swift Strike 5.5k NA
B>>Pulverize 3k
wtb shrouded shadow 3k
WHY U ON NA
Who are you ? 
WHY U ON NA
WTB purple cyclone kick NA 🍌
I dont need better gears when im outdpsing people almost 100 ap above me
Purple books carry huuuge
I currently have 0 ck 4 comets. Once I get 3 cks it'll be 3 and 3
B>>Pulverize 3k
4-5k
Kfm op
How’s ur ping on NA
On wifi. 23ms. Friends suggested i buy eternity cable. Could go to 15 maybe
Ethernet
Oh that’s lower than I thought wth
Nah its cuz im almost full purple books
Books matter more than gear in this version tbh
Could have average gear and still do good dps if main dmg skills purple
yeah I still think book stacking is dumb >:(
is this skill part of any build?
Sure..just not one thats viable ATM or even usable due to the fact that there is a glitch with new comet
Can put the new comet on an item but it wont show up and when item is equipped 4 becomes locked
They're still working on fixing it
But I def want to experiment with that plus the new comet once I get both skills
Seems more of a fun build than a new meta imo 🤷♂️
it just drop and i don't know how much i should set the price .. lol
You on na?
yes
Shiiii
I buy it from you
Id price it same as ck focus recovery since they work similarly. Just a few extra add-ons.
So should be a 2-3k skill if im not mistake
I see. ;D
Whats your f3?
Your ign
Kelly
So I can look at your toon in f3
Naaah
Who's the whale nowM
Legendary blazing beam

Wtb 3 purple ck on na
It dont matter sinful gonna get all of em

yu have a problem

damn your accuracy low tho

show me dps chart and accuracy % on HE
still need both stats
if searing palm stack misses GG
just not as much once you start going
I need more AP
But bracelet market is dead
Kfm gear market dead too. Another reason I started getting radiant ring lvled. Figure it might as well just try craft my own since no one else doing it
Time to go back to valo
I still play occasionally
login every day to check shop for cool skins
B>> Virt TIGER STRIKE pm Max stats
WTS NA
new cyclone kick kfm PMO
Post it 3k
wait so what’s the required accuracy now
1800 give or take
1800 for tree at level 55
NL more, but I don't know exactly. Likely 1900
Thank you sirs !!
WTB 2 CYCLONE KICK + VIRTUOUS SOUL BADE max acc max cdm
kfm 1800 good,we don't get miss on attacks mostly but we need acc for the crow controls
Hey guys newbie here , and im leveling up KFM right now , do you guys know where i can see any build ? cause first time playing this game hehe
for a beginner, it's a good doc https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1OhnfVd9CDEEtmZP9KMXI-hII-zlqB6Om2Z4h3A01NIA/edit?slide=id.p#slide=id.p
its a doc for Wind build
im only lv 54 and 1550 acu tho
97% crit rate and bm without searing palm
so about 1500 should do it i think
WTB EU straight jab combo
NA WTS Chaotic Kick , Searing Blow and V - Tiger Strike Badge +5 165 CD, 106 Pierce , 64 Acc. PM O
thats actually pretty good intel thanks for that
do you have detect set running?
Yes i do have lv 7 detect
what's your crit rate? Apparently a crit is decided first and if it is then accuracy isn't looked at all 
bms have high base crit rate too - kfms only get 600 
Yee
yh kfm crate is definitely busted
my guess is 3.5k crate + detect set + 1500 accuracy on kfm should be the same as your bm
Yee also ho 3k5 cd
For dmg
Cuz the searing already gives huge crit rate boost
My old kfm does like 90% crit
Its so busted haha
Meanwhile bm does 60% 😦
what is this "evasion"?
with leading palm
its the evasion rate stat? or some conditional
if you evade dmg
like a q e ss
and then hit x
so if i iframe with either Q or E and follow up with leading palm its CD is reduced by 50%?
ye
I think it's just evasion like when you dodge an attack, not when you iframe
Might be wrong 🙂
ive tried it after doing an Q or E iframe, but the CD is still the same, maybe the timing is different idk
easiest way to find out put on a blue versino and go into baylee
stepping out of an aoe does not count
have to have that ingame sound when you evade dmg
that otherwise wouldve hit u
Yep exactly
I've only noticed CDR when my character actually "evades" an attack
You can get evasion boost with the Q/E/SS 3x speedy feet stacks
But you're not gonna actively look for the evade, it's just a good bonus if you happen to evade before your LP
Ye it's from evades from evasion stat or max agility only. You can't get it off any iframes. Just an irrelevant effect tbh
WTS EU , pm offer
WTB purple cyclone kick NA 🍌
i offer 800 gem
@void fractal post here I think
B>>Virt Badge Tiger Strike pm
B>>Virt Badge Tiger Strike pm NA
you are correct
just noticed it in this
Yeah so it's basically useless
basically

but that 9 sec cd nice to see tho
too bad the window to apply it after evade is so short
hard to react in time
I only notice it when I spam my iframes when aggro'ing large packs of mobs 
i missed a few times trying to recorrd it
WTB Purple Pivot Kick , Swift Strike .
WTB PURPLE GUBONG
WTB straight jab combo EU
hello guys, can someone help me with rotation on fire kfm
I switch from wind, and dmg became smaller
on the mannequin
wind 38k
fire 33k
mb there are some videos?
dummy always sucked for me on fire kfm
then we went with my wind kfm dude on dungeon and i was bonking
fire kfm depends on iframes to get focus and spam
also a bit of blocking
on dummy you are playing lesser potential version of fire kfm
I guess ijust need to get used to fire kfm
There is no rotation for Fire. Spam 2, and keep up SP. If you played Wind correctly, it's not surprising that your damage went down after the swap. Wind is stronger after all.
it's just that everyone around says it's fire do more damage, but i do less, and i cant understand what am i doing wrong
"More damage" are big words and it comes down to investment.
I think min-maxed non-legendary skill books, wind takes the edge if played perfectly
Legendary TS is something else though fire probably wins with it?
Whoah has better insight
ok, thx all 
Out of sheer curiosity, may I ask why you switched from wind to fire?
Because last time someone asked me why I was playing wind
Is there some hidden propaganda going on 
my kp saw fire kfm in similar to my gier and he did more damage
and i dont understand how to improve dps by skill books in wind in future because there are 2 skills 4 and f and have similar damage
and i decided to try fire
but for now it's a disgusting experience)00
Fire kfm doesn't parse properly in meters - when I played fire, ppl thought I was a 100k god on sashimi but I was just volcanic burst pulling 2 of the adds and tiger striking all 3 at same time 
Same thing with thresher and tiger striking the tiny bugs will massively boost the numbers. And the bot adds in winter mane, blood mane
they were on tree, and on WB there are 8-7/10 top play and fire, but i can make a mistake
Yes most of them are fire I confirm
At very end game, fire kfms can stack more GMs and better legendary - they can even drop palm appliers and use the counter -> blazing kick to apply palm and stack 3 extra tiger strikes. Some some kr vids doing it. Comet wind also gets a huge disadvantage when fighting moving bosses like mujin so its hard to compare the builds on different bosses at different gear levels
cyclone kick doesnt have a legendary book, so whales in korea all had to gravitate towards fire, either western whales figured that out themselves or started copying it from them, but whaling pve had no future as wind.
As for the rest of the mortals who don´t plan on stacking legendary books wind and fire are about same dps if you only have acces to purple books
Yes that's what I thought
But then what is the advantage of Wind if, in the end, Fire outdamages it on moving targets and can outscale it
wind can actually pvp that is the huge sellpoint for most people who are willing to whale.
Well, everyone is wrong.
And the AOE - being able to stack twins for mujin farming and in future naryu when its farmable is a big plus too. I'd switch to fire if my bound purples weren't all wind 
Fire tends to do more damage in the hands of most people simply because Fire is drastically easier to play. Therefore the entry level to doing good amount of damage is much more easily reachable with Fire. However, the ceiling of Wind is much higher in comparison. It's just dramatically harder to play. A good Wind KFM will out damage a Fire one. In addition, @copper dock even with Legendary Tiger Strike, Wind should be pulling ahead, although slightly.
@alpine canopy
It's the opposite actually. Fire has an easy time on dummy compared to Wind.
It's nice to have confirmation that wind has a much higher ceiling, so it's still worth to keep practicing and mastering the playstyle, regardless of Fire's key advantages
It is by far the hardest playstyle I've encountered while playing an MMO char, and this is coming from someone that has over 20 years of mmo experience
Yes, even Fire KFM gameplay is probably much harder than anything other MMOs have to offer. Wind is just something else
Without Legendary books in the equation, Wind does about 20% more than Fire if played perfectly. There are 2 hybrid builds and both have their own advantages.
With say a single Legendary book, I think Wind is only a tiny bit ahead. It's safe to say they're about even.
good luck getting that leg tiger strike
That is quite a significant gap. It reminds me of fighting games tournaments, where participants are more likely to pick the most "efficient" character in terms of output vs required effort, and usually the hardest characters that have the best output aren't picked.
In cases where you want to prog or just a much more consistent performance, Fire is actually a great choice
Hmm, I've mostly played Tekken, and people were never shy to pick Akuma, Bryan or Geese in T7. Despite the obvious difficulty. In any case, I'm not saying Fire is a bad spec. In hands of most people it will indeed be a better performing spec. I'm just a little annoyed at people parroting that Fire does more damage, which is simply untrue.
Both Hybrid Comet Strike, and Hybrid Pulverize builds are ahead of Fire. You just need to be very good at this game
Characters like the Mishimas are very rarely picked despite their insane performance but require extreme technical skills
Geese and Akuma were extremely broken despite their very high skill ceiling though, so it's a bit skewed in their favor 
And yeah people are actually saying Fire is better, even have people asking "why are you wind"
Next thing you know, wind users are gatekept 
Mishimas are rarely picked cause they're kinda mid for a lot of effort. Jin was very difficult, but was also a top tier character. He was picked very often. Alas, I don't disagree with what you're saying. Playing something simple bears more fruit long term, unless you enjoy complexity
Out of 10, 10 being "1 god amongst 1 million players" type of difficulty, and 0 being absolutely braindead
Where would you place both fire and wind?
wind at the top just due to the skill cap. not many players can bring out 100% wind potential
Just difficulty-wise
Can confirm have tested all wind builds
With all purple book investments at the highest level
because of not being able to proc chained mace or iron shoulder on wind?
that makes sense if so
so you cant reduce palm cooldown enough on dummy
What is your favorite build to play and current build (if different)
1 purple pulv?
Comet will beat but it is hard to play consistently in dungeons with moving targets and you have to crit all your comets
Yes 1 purple pulv .. stacking pulv is useless
I have a bound purple pulv I might try it out
It procs pivot kick right ☠️ because it's not mentioned in the description
In order for comet to be same dmg needs to crit every time pretty much and u have to use it 2 times in stage 4 for it to beat pulv build
2 times in stage 4? Currently i use comet on every stage without purple straight jab
Twice sounds crazy
Have to use comet at beginning or stage 4 and end
It’s hard
That’s why I said it’s very hard
It's really hard to say. On EU there are currently no KFMs able to bring out 95%< DPS Wind can offer. On NA there are a few. I don't think doing this is THAT difficult.
I will however say that the same is true for Fire. Just reverse. No good Fire on NA, and only a handful on EU
I see. We need go step up our game on EU
95% of them don´t have the ping to even practice it
ive done it only once and im low enough ping too 20-30 ms. like sinful said right as you get into 4 pop the comet and the f spam needs to go crazy perfect
one mistake and the cd will be ready as you exit stage 4
With so many factors at play, how can one gauge his own performance?
With purple straight jab?
i dont have that yet i was able to do it with regular 2rf. and the servers stayed super stable allowing me to do a very fast 2rf anicancel
wtb<Heroic straight jab , cyclone kick , leading palm , comet strike additional damage (heavens reach server)
Do you use leading palm in stage 4?
Maybe without it... Hmm
i dont use it to enter any stage unless a mech causes me to have to force a stage. ill only use leading palm after im already in stage 4 when the timer is low to do the most dmg with it and also proc stage 1. to elaborate on this. you can do leading twice in stage 4 if you have the mystic badge but i use double comet badges
want to buy one of my comet strikes for 9k ? i got 4 and i plan on replacing the 4th anyways
I'll test it tonight on a dummy
There is no best way to do this. On retail we used to do Moyun parses, and look at ratios. Ratios were the way. Here we don't have a training room, so it's not possible.
the current way i do it is check all my dps charts
look at the amont of hits im getting and see if im dmg cancelling as well.
like this chart for instance
i dmg cancelled a bunch of blood strikes:
look how many blood strikes i landed vs swift and ck
the numbers should be all the same if played perfectly
not for 9k xD maybe 6k
I thought about it but it's not uncommon to have more CKs than jabs due to CK proccing on iframes
Mix that with purple jab and it's fully cooked
i wont proc it on iframes due to my playstyle ill always do it on a 2rf specifically so ican be consistent when checking my meters
yeah ur supposed to have more ck than jabs
ive never used a ck on a iframe proc
Ah
What badges for the pulv build? Might try this out to stop suffering using comet at mujin 
pref ck soul and pulv mystic
this way you can maximize dmg from both skills
if youre using pulv at all and not the mystic badge for it ...kinda waste of a skill
Isn't pulv buggy with moving targets too? Remember seeing it whiff and hit nothing when baylee would move
and since you stack more cks on that build you want the soul badge for ck
truth
its not that its buggy ...its just the way the skill works
Like a single step would make it hit nothing 
if you know the target is going to move out of the way dont use it
just like with comet strike
works the same way as a manic slam or a smite
same exact animation
Yuh just have to know boss pattern
Pulv is more reliable then comet
You have to spam off cd tho
Adding pulv into my build added 10% dmg overall to my dmg since smite does nothing but stage up
Looked at the cost of switching and its not happening, needs too many cyclone
Wind comet is cheaper, got my comets for 6.4k and 7k
Likely due to people realizing pulverize is free dmg. Used to be super cheap to get a purple one
I read this wrong
Did you try hybrid stacking? Not worth? Maybe with Leg Pulverize?
To think wind comet is highest dps/toughest but also cheapest 
I didn’t try with pulv stacking cuz I think I would lose to much dps from getting rid of cyclones considering how many cyclones I get
I got 216 cyclone in that parse and only 19 pulv
Maybe with legendary I can do 2 pulv and 7 cyclone maybe… but need legend pulv
I don’t know if I wanna waste that much just to test cuz I won’t be able to resell is the issue lmaooo no one want it

Maybe I can buy couple purple pulv today and try but I honestly think would be dos loss with how many cyclones I get off and with my cyclone badge increasing dmg in those cyclones
Take the %
And compare to the % difference of the new gm
Like how much % one more pulverize is for you and minus % ck gm
Should have rough estimate
Because the amount of hits will be the same
Mm I would have to check when I’m home
Won’t be today that’s for sure
With maintainence
Cyclone does 5x more of my dps then pulv
are u using ck badge or pulv?
Cyclone soul badge and pulv mystic
have u tried pulv soul badge?
Yes it’s bad
Considering how many cyclone kicks I get off vs pulv
I get 6 cyclone kicks off between each pulv
Each pulv needs to be 6 kicks worth of dmg
i see. ill have to see when i get straigh jab
My kicks hit for 35-39k depending on stage
35k 
Takes into account stage / mantra buff
Omg!
what are good mantras to have?! asking for myself but im noob 😩
Taeil / Subu for KFM
every other one is useless
Thank you Whoah 
My swift too lol
graphical effect looks amazing tbh
Show us
idk how to record(tbh know, but lazy) 😉 one day when I stream twitch yeah
One day when we aren’t beneath him we shall she his almighty power
Of legendary book

imagine legendary CK
Should I switch to CK dmg badge since I recently got to GM 19 on CK but GM 0 on comet? I also have a purple bound Pulverize I can use, should I switch my mystic badge from comet to pulverize?
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just watched this and got a bit sad
cant help but admire kfm pvp combo. this is korea beluga compilatino basically
at 1:07 if you want to see him 1v1 a sin
since i know a lot of players hate vs sin
pretty good fight. no idea about the different stats tho making a difference in the fight but i think he played it very well
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Man, I thought I was going to see something cool. This fight is a great showcase of why Debuff Resistance needs to be removed from the game
I definitely agree
That stat needs to be removed completely
Would love some input on this 
if u want to play pulv and use bloodstrike pulv soulbadge, i gain more dps this way, if u have straight jab ck badge
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yes for sure lol
Yes for both questions? 😋
ck badge for sure comet does less dmg than cyclone even with badge. if you want to go pulv is up to you it would be a bit more dmg but could be akward from the animations(but you play with the other f anyways so should be better)
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anyone who knows about the korean servers knows if this is the nerfed version or the OG op one
f
- so when it come to boss hp we get the latest increased hp version like 14M to 20M cold storage,
- when it comes to skills we get the sh@ttier versions that do less dmg
- and when it comes to dungeons we get the 4 man instead of the 6 man updated version koreans have.
got it...
Let me add another one
- When it comes to skill stacking, where KR, I think, got none of it for months, we get it INSTANTLY.

We also got 6 skills for leg gamba instead of the 3 good ones for a while like kr had
How's kfm now, haven't played for almost 5-6 weeks
I guess new skills are here already?
best class for ppl who enjoy holding the party back
Honestly given that the four mans are a thing, we have to pick and choose WHICH classes to bring to the dungeons which is INSANE
G_G
What party utility does kfm have? It feels like Summoner + BD/BM is required to clear for now until we get more dps trickled down..
We wouldn't be holding the party back if SOME people didn't take all the CK off the market 
Yuh fk those people
Kfm give 10% crit dmg to party
the SP still works? Someone had told me that it's individualized
dosent work
Mmmm
we used to be able to tank and keep the boss on the same spot, provide party buffs. now we provide negative utility in neo
It's unnerfed
Nerfed version reduces leading palm cd I think
My friend rolled it and he says it's the unnerfed version as well
And numbers are lining up as well
Interesting... so I guess for people who want to use it before it's nerfed, pop off then.
I mean you know it's going to be nerfed in a month or so
well in NA maybe 1 or 2 of those books have ever being sold
so is not like you could choose to play it even if you wanted to
without some gamba investment
You can use your selector on it

Oh
So then... if it's not your SP buff on the boss.. doesn't that mean you lose out on 10% crit dmg 
Only party utility that works for everyone is defense down like from summoner or bm
Uh
I think u guys are talking about driven buff right
I think they straight up deleted it
If u look at old kr neo videos it's there but I'm pretty sure ever since they made blue buffs solo they deleted that part
But other thing about palm debuff on boss is on comet and tiger it doesn't have to be urs
Kinda like sin poison
🤔 ok guys hear me out, what if sinful stockpiled all pulverize purple books since launch and then started spreading the idea of "drop smite, use pulv instead to jack up the price" then made a huge profit with that 200iq move?
so is the new comet strike gonna get nerfed? is it not worth to switch from additional damage to additional cast?
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Its not worth to try it unless you hit on a transmute because only the purple version of the skill allows for a cooldown of the lotus kick
After thinking about it. Take it back. Guess you could still fo blue versions if you alright with just spamming 2r 🧐
i was gonna get purple comet with this battle pass box but im not sure if ill regret it or not, kfm already has no utility so our only value is damage and my current build stacks 12 and 12 gm on comet additional and cyclone kick damage
Imma be real with you
It would be in your best interest to select cyclone kick if you wind
Comets strikes are common enough that you wont be shafted by prices when they posted in market.
so is cyclone kick better than new comet? i thought comet was made to combat the lack of legendaries
cause we get shafted with that garbage swift strike
Hold on
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cause i already bought the lotus kick and was thinking of switching but now im not even sure
guess ill just wait and see
What server are you ?
It will be nerfed and the build will suck
If price is right I'll buy it off you. I dont care about numbers I just wanna do the build cuz it looks cool.
You are likely going to have to switch back
But yes. Cyclone kick is better for you
is it honestly better to just get rid of comet strike and go full cyclone kick then?
cause it feels gimped
And this isn't based off any calculations I did. Its based off the fact that the real build is gated behind a purple skill
Only the purple version of thruster punch reduces the lotus kick cd
well i can get the purple from this battle pass box, but now im conflicted if i should
and i have purple lotus kick
I have no issues running hybrid build in dungeon where boss move alot
YuiLia
Future proof: choose cyclone kick dmg increase
That's insurance
so ur basically me with less cyclone kicks
OR
Dont open ir
And save it
Oh btw.
Dont let it sit for too l9ng. I remember my friend had saved her blue select box and it was expired after a while. Said it in game tooltip. Ill try to get more clarification on that
cant you still open expired? or u cant
Ye asking my friend see if it still let her open it
Even if that's how it happened price was gonna raise anyways if you didn't see it there was someone else talking about pulverize being a cheap way to get more dmg. When I seen that I knew prices would go up
And i dont disagree at all pulverize def should not be cheap 
Got confirmation. Can still open when it said expired
"someone" aka sinful alt 🕵️
Still
the ruth tho
Truth* pulverize has always been known as a budget dps
Especially if you get hands on the cdr badge.
Its actually so free its ridiculous.
I dont know if you remember
But i had done both the builds testing and pulverize is just a step behind comet build
Assuming you get all the hits off. This was done with comet cdr badge and pulverize cdr badge at virt lvls
Yuh that was my conclusion to
Comet is the same dmg as pulv build if you hit all crits on comets
It beats pulv build if you crit every comet hit and get off 4 comets on stage 4 so starting of stage 4 u hit 2 and 2 more at the end
Again this is on dummy
Not imagine doing all that in a dungeon with mechanics and watching boss rotation
Making comet even harder
Ye that's how I tested. So comet is actually less
On paper comet is higher dps all the way but people tend to forget you got Hella other stuff to focus on in dungeons
Yup
Thats korea
And all my tests were done with purple skills and highest level badges and gear currently
So it’s end game testing
Comet hybrid is cheaper to build tho
Its u run a build that costs 350-400k with full 7-8 cyclone stacking or you go comet hybrid costing like 100-120k? I think
^
One of the reasons im sticking to comet hybrid i literally can NOT be asked to try and find a ck stacking build
And even with one purple ck
On hae mujin im doing 28% ck and 30% comet
So you really only need that 1 ck to make a difference. If i was running 3 comets instead of 4 it would be pretty even
Yuh I recommend comet stacking for every player unless they plan to spend 35-45k per cyclone which is non existent atm they don’t get listed and are rare
Easier to get comets
My current dmg dispersion
52% cyclone dmg
That’s 1:40-2min parse on dummy

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To clarify, the Additional Cast Comet Strike was bugged and fixed instead of nerfed. It was never meant to do as much damage as it did.
that comet strike version already existed in bns life, but we didnt had 600 ap badges there , you sure it was "buged" and not just poorly tested instead then figured out it was to strong and nerfed later?
I don't speak Korean. In their patch notes the wording used was bugfix. Koreans were also aware of this fix way before it went live
my only complain is they keep taking away the tools to do the content they released in a way in korea, blue buff was party, volcanic burst was 20% party crit dmg, continuum effect from sp was 10% crit dmg. And then we get the same bosses and dungeons but take away all bonuses korean did get at the time -.-
SP buff is still there. As for the rest, I agree of course.
Not a problem for me. I just wish there was a legitimate reason provided by devs as to why my tab and v doesn't assist party anymore 
Im adhd like thst. At least tell me why so I can try and understand the perspective
I do admit i was disappointed when my friend said tab ice isn't party anymore. I like having emergency utility at my disposal.
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Well, I understand their reasoning. Instead, I'd like to know why Tremor is allowed to be bugged and actually not deal any damage to bosses for this long
Huh
You mean for KFM?
Ye. When I first started learning kfm I was told kfm used to have party ice
Someone lied to you bro

Ill do 6-7k for it
This is additional cast, not additional damage btw
yea tab ice was never party
we did lose ss freeze though
we also could "q" and "e" without a target at some point
one of the best changes ever
and tiger strike was like 5% of your max hp heal on every cast, but bosses attacks all did 20-60% of your hp on every mechanic fail
tomb of exile were the fight started with a 1 shot dance, then next patch dokumo hiting you for 80% of your hp on every fail, like bns neo seemed like a hardcore game but then everything was a joke afterwards
after the blue dungeons it becomes a gear / whale check
I have another question. For onrush the wording saying chance for 3 crits, add dmg this means you have an added chance to deal 3 crits and those crits get add dmg. Or it means that any 3 of your crits deal add dmg?
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you will use attacks and randomly get a buff with a red symbol
once you get this buff your next 3 attacks are guaranteed to crit 100% of the time
and those 3 attacks do the mentioned bonus dmg
then it goes on an internal cooldown
Thank you!
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what is the value of the new cyclone kick ?
Cheap
It is not skill for stacking, so shouldn't be that expensive. However, it is new skill.
Difficult to find for sure. U need it for new rotation though. CK dmg increase will be tough to use new comet due to focus control
thanks for the information 🙂
Yeah you might need to put high price to buy, otherwise might be difficult to find atm. Comet Cast is popular for next 4 weeks so.
The price will go down a lot after nerf though
I guess my question is: How bad is the nerf? Does it make the dmg out indistinguishable from the other builds? Or is it worse?
9 x ap to 3.20 ap
Lol
I forgot tha ap multiplier
They put cd reduction and leading plam and pivot instead. I think it is good to use still even if changed in the future.
If anyone wanna tackle, you are correct. 🙂 i am noob so
For fire kfm, would you replace bright comet strike for another tiger strike?
you could potentially - what do you currently have?
the only replaceable ones would be counter, volcanic burst, and bright comet strike
i think i'm gonna replace volcanic burst after i replace bright comet strike
but volcanic burst nice for mobbing haha
and i don't see myself replacing counter
i just see that twizzy replaced it for another tiger strike
counter is needed IMO
need searing, chaos, leadin, avenging, tiger, searing palm, smite, spirit, backstep, shrouded shadow and counter

I take it back
Instead of 6k I offer 3k for that trash
Could be the new budget build for kfm tbh
Willing to pay 7000 Divine Gems for a Heroic Skill Book - Swift Strike. Private message me. In-game name is OPM or Noctis. (NA)
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luck was not on my side today
server down ?
was it ever up?
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Any fire kfm with near 850 ap and blue tigers only can help me? i wanna know how much the dps on cs or training?
gotta take into account your level too
Im lvl 55
flexing my new outfit
Steam server?
nope
i came to viridian coast server 3 months late
so i can access the new player attendance book
Wdh
Lol
Its weird that for regular players we dont get outfit
No rewards for regulars xd
ncsoft works in mysterious ways
playing new server? that's nice outfit.
they don't care about caught fish anymore
Hello, do we have updated guide to wind and fire kfm 🙂
Trying to figure out which skill books and badges are useful and worth keeping
leading palm sold?
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Yes
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Nothing much to update. For wind kfm if you manage to get the purple version of thruster punch and the new lotus kick you can try new rotation of r2rf44 or r2rfr44.
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Hello, noob question. Is this used in any builds?
Can use in wind atleast early game
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theres one right now
buy this and reroll stats 
yeah i saw that one, id buy if it was 4k
wanna buy mine for 4k? i jsut gotta seal it its been sitting in my inventory
ok i buy
leading palm badge right? same one
yep i got a pulverize one too just chilling in storage
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finally 3k cc
took me a while but we made it
Oh I meant the legendary necklace
i see
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any1 know how much dps you need for bsh2?
15k
ah THanks ;D
yo
I got lucky yesterday and got purple tiger strike from 50 lvl box (shooketh). So the question is, what should I get from BP purple selector if i already have TS?
An other one if u plan to play fire
Isn't it more worth to get blue buff or something like that
Not at all, the price difference is huge
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wtb pivot kick @4k thanks na
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No, it's a completely useless skill. Volcanic Burst doesn't deal damage to immovable objects, which includes bosses. Because it doesn't even have the Cdmg amp like the purple variant, you are literally better off with the white Stomp.
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Damn already finished mu build so. Too late 😦
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who is the top wind kfm now in kr?
Is there a place to check top players build?
Not as I know
search one by one?..
where to search I think thats is question
for wind kfm if i have all badge etc what better? comet build or hibrid or only ck?
i tried to find the video with dps check between the 3 build but i cant find 😄
any one know good way to farm thoes plz ? than the 10 boxes from daily
dungs
whale strat is salvaging transformation stones, otherwise you can do skyhaven bastion for another 5 or 10 boxes (idr) a day
all this done what else
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everyone have any build for kfm ? like website
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Hi, does the skill priorities change much one month later with the newer skills? Blue Iron Shoulder looks quite decent
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iron shoulder is just a worse chained mace
it was good when the game first came out when we were blocking a lot instead of iframing with q/e/ss
purple gubong sell for 40k ??? seriesly ?
Anystat yes
wow
I see, that makes sense. I guess I can just disable it? It sometimes interfere with other F skills
bro dont buy jab .,. not worth it man .. u need the bleed 100 % requirment
For comet strike build, when do we usually use the skill?
asap
so whenever it off cd? I don't need to use it in phase 4 or with bb?
Ah, alright. Thank you!
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You quitting?
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