Force Master

[last raptor]

like near 900 atk FMs doing that

and not realizing their dmg is halved when theres no burn

and then party leader complains that our dps in the meter is dropping or is lower or whatever since the dmg output is just not there when that happens

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[cerulean nacelle]

i don't remember they made ember stacks personal or still shared in kr neo ??

cause really .. at this point XD im getting ptsd checking fms in party everytime

[last raptor]

does that affect char too?

the burn

[cerulean nacelle]

char have add damage on burning target

[bitter eagle]

For other fire fms its worst nightmare

[cerulean nacelle]

and i remember probably shockfire boost dragon char if it 5 ember stacked

[last raptor]

is ice rain actually the strongest build tho? I know it hits hard later but the dmg is just lower than beam

and i see ppl to left right rain and repeat

do*

[cerulean nacelle]

yep

[bitter eagle]

Purple palm bb users easly do 100%burn uptime even without wildfire. Only problem for others is X but not burn

[cerulean nacelle]

they just use wildfire purple and balefire no ?

[bitter eagle]

F-1 then C

Repeat

With wildfire it becomes walk in the park

[cerulean nacelle]

if there is another blazing palm in the party those five ember gonna blow up before 1

[bitter eagle]

Yes. But exp fms can solve even others purpelo palm

Shoot fast F-1 like in a wild west (kidding, just use macro F-1)

[jagged hull]

At that point you could always just delay your balefire a little at the start

[cerulean nacelle]

true

[last raptor]

for the most part i dont even need balefire

unless i need burn

tbh

lol

[bitter eagle]

If you have wildfire then yes. But if you dont its a mistake because of other fms

[last raptor]

i never used wildfire in my life, how does that even work, i know u can spam it but is that how u trigger burn?

[cerulean nacelle]

the purple one only put burn

[last raptor]

isnt it still bad to use purple palm as purple beam user anyways

u trolling urself, no fiend fire

[jagged hull]

Which do you think deals more damage

[frank canopy]

Doesn't this come at the expense of the lowered focus when boosted ? Kinda loses it's point tbh if you need to crit char too to sustain enough focus

[terse fiber]

Looks like leg char might completely skip rmb and do 2r rotation all the time

with enough critrate it should be easy to sustain

purple palm with 1-2 recovery and char using 2 but recovering 1

[frank canopy]

Using 2 ?

I read 3 + 1 from crit

So it's more like - 3 +1 and each crit is another +1

[wraith oar]

Isnt rmb only needed to cast cold snap on char

[terse fiber]

isnt boosted char 2 focus?

OH WAIT. it is removed on legendary

Or just some issue with tooltip as always\

[wraith oar]

Does dragonchar go blazig palm or infernal blow when switching blue to purple?

[terse fiber]

I'd say always palm for focus

since its the biggest issue we have

purple char is faster so will drain focus more

[frank canopy]

that's my whole point

xd

it's doggo

if not a translate bug

compared to ice at least

[slender trellis]

its not trasnlate bug

[slender trellis]

no you have to press both left and right cuz of animation lock

[frank canopy]

On char i'm pretty sure that you gain dps using 2R only after a certain gm threshold

[slender trellis]

i lost 10k dps on dummy when I test it

[wraith oar]

Am 30 gm atm

[frank canopy]

10k dps from frost palm alone

seems a lot ngl

[slender trellis]

cuz it feel muuch slower

if you are ice rain im very sure 2rt is faster than 2r2

[wraith oar]

So with 2 lmb rmb i can do more dragon chars then 2 lmb?

[slender trellis]

im not sure about dragon char

But I presume the same

Or

@radiant dagger

[tawny siren]

https://i.imgflip.com/1txerc.jpg

[fading canyon]

Dragonchar does not need frostpalm at all i dont play with T

[fleet wolf]

You clip on no F/ Focus if no Frost Orb ready

[tawny siren]

i snipe frost orbs with rmb everytime i use a 1000ms gcd like balefire or wildfire, but don't use it otherwise other than for dragonfrost or cold snap

[fleet wolf]

dats crazy, prob only optimal for high pings

[tawny siren]

i play with 8 ms

[fleet wolf]

For 30s dummy my Char counts 1.75 for R2 & 1.69 for TR2
Net gain on dps if not meeting the ~40 stacks threshold, that's disregarding all the clipping due to out of focus

[tawny siren]

i'll check my counts after msp, but the point is that you lose char counts with rt2 or tr2 like you said

[fleet wolf]

Actual point here is that you never clip with TR2, but will guaranteed almost always clip with R2 due to running out of focus/ F not ready

[tawny siren]

i don't run out of focus because i use dragonfrost and dual dragons on cd

[fleet wolf]

then ur Char count is low

[frank canopy]

Tought 1.6 was max

[tawny siren]

30s

[frank canopy]

Are the hits bugged ?

[tawny siren]

no, i told you yesterday char does 5 hits now

[frank canopy]

Oh wtf

Why

[tawny siren]

it's the accuracy and hp additional hits

[frank canopy]

Oh Yeah true

[pallid grotto]

Free dps

Call it stupid i guess

Play wildfire and burn is never an issue, know how to use dd with impact and there u have it...
Then again, endgame is full bb stacked not even using fiend fire or wall cdr badge..

[wraith oar]

Man tsk what to do bro

[slender trellis]

[jagged hull]

As dragonchar generates more embers than beam its even stronger on dragonchar.

[bitter eagle]

F-1-X

[fleet wolf]

1.46/s is kinda low, typically should be 1.55 - 1.6

[tawny siren]

it's 1.571 bro

[fleet wolf]

Oh thought u said 30s exact

[last raptor]

Char > Rain?

[tawny siren]

purple yes

[frozen gulch]

In Legendary skill, ICE stronger

[last raptor]

Legendary...

[pallid grotto]

Nonono don't use purple palm give me free dps (if i ever get to play again without perma dc, that is)

[frozen gulch]

One dude told me like if I have balefire, then its doesnt matter if I use purple blazing palm

Still can get burn

[jagged hull]

Balefire alone only covers about half of burn uptime

[frozen gulch]

So need wildfire purple too

[solar sand]

meteor/wall mystic badge > is better on beam?

dual dragon mystic badge > is better for dragonchar?

[jagged hull]

If you ever need to do bleed the dual dragon is best

[solar sand]

ignore bleed

[jagged hull]

At some point people said meteor/wall is more damage for both

[solar sand]

hmm

[jagged hull]

So i'm guessing its still better for beam if you ignore bleed

[solar sand]

some1 said earlier DD is better on char cuz focus regen

not the case?

[jagged hull]

That sounds reasonable

It also doesnt require you to run books for the 1 and x skill

Beam also seems to drop these books at some point

[pallid grotto]

Char needs dd badge for focus so slotting dd for perma bleed uptime & flat dmg gains not a loss
On bb only would use it if u have nobody else to apply bleed really

But not essential on either, on dc u use dd a lot incl dd badge so won't hurt using for sure

[jagged hull]

If you wait long enough youll be able to use all of the badges combined with the silverfrost update

oh

🤔

it has finally happened

FM has a crit buff (we dont talk about Windstorm)

That is, if you want gm30 dual dragons

9 second cooldown dual dragons is pretty 🤔

[frozen gulch]

I use dual dragon and its great

[last raptor]

Huh? Wym all the badges combined?

[solar sand]

it was 4 th skill shadow grasp aoe deeps badge before

if they change the order idk

[tranquil prawn]

Kinda funny to still get back to this channel and you have people still talking about bb users using purp palm when bb is the skill that benefits the most from purple palm

[muted monolith]

anyone know why purple beam become cheap now in NA only 5-6k gem compare to purple dragonchar and ice rain

[wise umbra]

Everything is cheap now, ice rain and char was 20k early this week, palm is not a stack skill, it will eventually go down, max price for non stack skill for me is 10k

Market closed for a week, and ppl flood it with 1 week farm, blue books were for 150 gems, soo purple also get down

[inland cargo]

Yea the main skills halved in price basically

[nova radish]

WTS /who "ImaBarbiegirl" EU Cinderland

[solar sand]

it s not funny, its annoyin.
Yes u can time your DD + 1 to do insta inferno.
Yes, u can c + z to keep the burn.

But

z skill is another 5-10k book? that most ppl dont have??? or not on their priority after farmin 10k gems in 1-2 months lol
or timing dd + 1 to do inferno is need focus? also gl if u have another fm who has purple palm (: rip duble inferno or keep trying to hit a inferno for x amount of time lol

OR fckin other FMs rotations in the pt.

Bottom line purple palm is bad bad -both selftroll and other ppl troll- skill for fire if u don't have paid hellokitty conditions (:

[jagged hull]

Why would you care about fiend fire while blazing palm adds way more damage

The effect even scales with multiple FMs

[faint stone]

Can we stop with this talk already, it’s so dumb. It’s more dmg if you use blazing palm and if you don’t want to use it, learn to play around it or don’t play with other fms

Even for beam, like beam with blazing wall badge + blazing wall is so much dmg too

[naive idol]

Here you go

[bitter eagle]

For whom who uses bb and char at same time yes palm is definitely the source of all problems

[naive idol]

Sorry friends I just send funny meme

[bitter eagle]

No offence just added some humor too

[naive idol]

Ultimately though, we're just arguing about a crap game design that needs a patch for personal ember stacks

[dreamy sparrow]

Yeah udu tell them

[uncut wigeon]

I’ve never seen an FM who actually does damage complain about blazing palm 🫣 only noobs

Always the lvl 45 poh multi host saying “sorry no blazing palm”

[dreamy sparrow]

people still running poh multi???

Buff blazing beam pls ncsoft

[muted monolith]

so how much you bb user lost dps if party with dragonchar with purple palm?

[pallid grotto]

KR has that patch
Happy

For me personally that is a dps loss but i am sure some ppl benefit cause they well..struggle..

[pallid grotto]

Someone gets the tick, that person gets the dmg
What dps loss are we talking, final party dps matters, not personal epenis meter flex (which if u have it -> dirty cheater btw )

If u cannot cast ur fiend fire at all cause of said issues dps loss is roughly 3-5% since 88-94% of ur main dps should come from tr2 and wall/meteors, instead u will do 2-3 more bbs/min and call it a day

It scales higher on lower gear, if u reach 3k/3.5k+ cdmg and 950+ ap (but more importantly stack bbs, over GM36) u will eventually drop fiend fire as it's a dps loss and all your problems go away

That is p2w? Welcome to gacha induced mmo

[slender trellis]

somean

[pallid grotto]

I'm honest, not nice..

[terse fiber]

People just need to see big numbers every 45 seconds when fiend fire is up. And they usually count their average dps based on this damage. If they dont crit with FF just reset and try again for big pp 😄

[slender trellis]

never used fiend firw

[dusty tapir]

I just change from beam to char is there any diff between the rotation ? still tr2 ?

[jagged hull]

You can start at this message and scroll down a bunch (until the korean video)

the same macro still works reasonably well, but you can gain more from only selectively using t

[candid heart]

is purple red heat any good , i have blue lmb right now

[jagged hull]

Never seen it used, so I doubt it

[candid heart]

ty 😦

[dreamy sparrow]

Anyone want to buy x11 purple beams NA

[frozen gulch]

I change to TR2 and got 27k in tree

better than 2rt

around 1000dps

[muted monolith]

its pratical? using hae mujin knockdown to replace skyburn knockdown skill? the CD 45s compare to skyburn 18s

[slow magnet]

I just don't knockdown at all, I use gubong and no skyburn

Someone else who can knock down without using a skill book on it, can be responsible for the knock downs.

[muted monolith]

ok, sometimes u get a party with all fm but no one kd sobo and when u see their profile, all about stacking dps book

[jagged hull]

With bosses like sobo or hae mujin you can use it just before the cc bars open and be just fine

Dont use hae mujin core on bsh2 boss1 though

[dreamy sparrow]

I think it not just fm, all the randos from f7 pretty much doesn’t have any cc skills, they all be stacking dps book to do no dps

[jagged hull]

I think FM is the only class that has no default CCs

[dreamy sparrow]

It’s still useless if u skyburn 1 bar and no one else kd but I prefer skyburn over hae core

[muted monolith]

yes u are right, since the game base on dps check, thats why i want to remove skyburn and replace with another dps blue books. my kd come from hae mujin soul core. but the casting kinda too long, i afraid its miss the timing

[dreamy sparrow]

But if you’re the only one to kd, maybe hae core is better

[frank canopy]

Any char enjoyer have tested detect in tree/lab ?

Tried it but i feel like my focus regen is too handicaped when doing so

[slow magnet]

You can just ignore the cc bars on mak sobo tbh it barely does any damage now

It does like 1.5 hp potions worth of damage

[dreamy sparrow]

Lethe its tough doing it with randos ok, I was trying to forced a poh in for daily gold chest, but got 5 randos who do 5k damage each on mak sobo 😔

They all died on poh and I basically solo it then left without reviving any of them

[slow magnet]

Lmaooo

[shrewd bramble]

mw/cinders wts pmo

[wraith oar]

Wf how much?

[crystal idol]

WTB wildfire NA

[frozen gulch]

GA blue book in NA, good luck

[faint stone]

Just solo it, makes no difference

[dreamy sparrow]

I expect them to Kd for me , but I got no kd help

[faint stone]

Heh, I don’t except any cc unless doing with clan

I just frostnado after for hp

[dreamy sparrow]

Nah I’m not f7 ever again

Doing 5k damage and no cc , I’m actually playing with bots

[faint stone]

Yep… ;-;

[muted monolith]

nah they using macro

[lyric nimbus]

wts EU

[vague mountain]

what's better suited for my 70ms ass latency, rain or char?

i'm excluding beam bcuz i don't like it

[jagged hull]

Rain is said to require low ping

[vague mountain]

guess that just leaves char on the table

aight, ty!

[jagged hull]

Yeah that would be the most logical route

[pure fractal]

WTS EU PM

[pearl cloak]

Anyone know what leg ice rain per second ceiling is?

[echo mulch]

WTS NA pmo

[muted monolith]

i bet so much effort and time to build somethin like this

[south sage]

🫡

we lost another soldier

[dreamy sparrow]

Blame ncsoft not buffing bbeam

[nova radish]

WTS /who "imabarbiegirl" EU Cinderland

[shrewd bramble]

wts eu 16k

[pallid grotto]

Nono..it is bad, nobody should use this.. better salvage before you accidentally make another terrorist for our delicate fms

[sleek sphinx]

i need it but for me to expensive

[frozen gulch]

WTB purp dragonchar NA

[fading canyon]

You shouldnt sell such mean Skill xd

I agree to salvage it with Tsuki

[pallid grotto]

Even better
Use it
But only with other fms in party... if they not ice

And make sure to not apply burn and play ice yourself, yes.

[naive idol]

https://tenor.com/view/meu-gif-27420939

[fading canyon]

That's evil

[wise umbra]

Guys, for the smite deck, which one is better, the poharan or the yuma fei one?

[jagged hull]

Feel free to share screenshots of both

[jagged hull]

Yunma unless your crit dmg is already very high

[cinder zinc]

does anyone use a macro for fm ice rain?

[muted monolith]

i bought purple blazing palm and party with my friend beam user, he hit 15k dps at most, but now only 12k dps and i use shock fire too

[summer reef]

i think u dont need use shockfire anymore when u alrd have purple palm if u use bb

[muted monolith]

i play dragonchar, shockfire let u insta cast fiendfire, no need 2.5s cast time and chance to get burn

[summer reef]

I dont think most of dragonchar player using fiendfire anymore

[jagged hull]

Palm doesnt apply burn fyi

[jagged hull]

Its worth it for maybe like 95%+ char users

[summer reef]

YEA thats why bb user need wildfire if wanna use palm purple

[jagged hull]

Or you just use shockfire or impact (more common version for bb since it doesnt have the focus issues)

[shrewd bramble]

if anyone curious

[cerulean nacelle]

where did u farm for lvl 60 ? 😮

[shrewd bramble]

msp, 800k/hr

[frozen gulch]

U farm alone?

I go with pt of 3 and only 220k/30 mins

[muted monolith]

critical damage no increase? scam! 🤡

[frozen gulch]

there's no crit dmg increase when u lvl up

WTS trashbook

[summer reef]

WTS na

[sudden flint]

Most ice users do id assume

Just ask away

[ancient jungle]

WTB ANY LEGENDARY SKILL EU

[cinder zinc]

yeah i was wondering what do their macro look like cus mine seems to not work correctly

[last raptor]

what is this

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[terse fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-insane-cat-help-my-cat-is-insane-help-my-cat-cat-gif-21688581

What the Hajoon is that

[jagged hull]

Future legend wicked twin user

[last raptor]

they even have infernal blow with no way of auto casting

[terse fiber]

pvp enjoyer?

[last raptor]

we got no pvp what u on

[jagged hull]

Infernal Blow is not fiend fire/inferno

Its lmb

[terse fiber]

and what is beluga then

[last raptor]

oh true tru

[terse fiber]

he comes in, casts wicked twin dragons, dies, does not elaborate further

[last raptor]

i think u missed the point that it pops once in a purple moon

[jagged hull]

Someone needs to join them in a party and share results

[terse fiber]

Would be funny if he only logs in for beluga and nothing else xD

[last raptor]

they r on rn

theres no beluga

[jagged hull]

There is

[terse fiber]

20 min left

[jagged hull]

For another 20min

[last raptor]

in fact they're recruiting for CS

so they're not doing beluga

LOL

[terse fiber]

lul

[jagged hull]

JOIN THEM

[last raptor]

and also

its NA, there is no beluga rn

[jagged hull]

Imagine being from NA

[terse fiber]

wdym you have different beluga times

[last raptor]

ofc

beluga ended a while ago

[jagged hull]

I guess we couldve seen that one coming

[last raptor]

beluga starts in

5 hours 19 mins

previous beluga was yesterday

LMAO

[terse fiber]

what is your current time tho?

5pm?

[last raptor]

bro doesnt want me, i guess they're a FM anti FM

[last raptor]

no, soon to be 4

[terse fiber]

ah k

[last raptor]

Craziest skill set ive ever seeing in this game tho

LMAO

[jagged hull]

Unequip blazing palm and apply again?

[last raptor]

my palm is blue to not cause issues LOL

prolly an FM that doesnt wanna be seen by FMs idk

maybe they were told they're delulu or something

[last raptor]

oh its u!!!

@cursive hatch how's that build though

[frozen gulch]

Hope the maintenance go well

only 3:30

[last raptor]

nah they'd never... it will extend twice, you'll see

[fleet wolf]

Can you jus post ur CS meter

Simply no way of gauging it if you don’t meter

[rough crow]

It's fun to see people trying something different at least

[last raptor]

Its nice to see dif builds but i think the way ur convo comes off feels like i was trying to make fun of u

I was legit curious to see what ppl here would say

Which is y i didnt add a name so they cant relate it to someone

It just left a wtf reaction on me when i saw it and apparently not as meme

Cuz those didnt seem to be viable for pve

[dreamy sparrow]

On Heavens Reach NA we also got someone going the wicked twin dragons build 😀

[last raptor]

I once saw someone here going for that

Though ppl sht on them lol

But i wasnt curious about that

I was curious about the frost fury

[dreamy sparrow]

Well it do be doing no damage, I ran with them once and they do the same damage as my beam build but only holding down lmb

But if they like the build then they play the build, no judge

[last raptor]

Try, i dont judge, just found it interesting

Doesnt seem bad if all u do is hold xD

[naive idol]

Based wicked dual dragons user

A path few FMs dare to take

Respect +

[last raptor]

But if holding frost fury is decent

Why wicked?

Could have added more frost

[naive idol]

Diminishing returns, that makes sense

[last raptor]

Hmm i see

Thought it would since i saw many 54-60s

[slow magnet]

there is no "frost fury build"

there's no viable build which is using frost fury

[naive idol]

If you have all Frost Fury, I think it's fair to say it's a frost fury build

[last raptor]

Isnt viable cuz its less dmg

But it can b used

[naive idol]

Frost Fury did have a moment in retail bns where it was put as frost palm

[slow magnet]

14k on a dummy is pretty bad considering how hard it animation locks you from doing anything else.

[naive idol]

Salt said their ping was EU ping playing in NA, so I think Frost Fury is a fair skill to invest to

[last raptor]

Cant u dodge while holding and interrupting atk?

[slow magnet]

obviously you can move but it locks you from casting lmb or 2 skills lol

[slow magnet]

Frost fury was on F at some point, then it was RMB

[naive idol]

Frost Fury used to be spammable as long as you crit with a frost move

[last raptor]

Oh u meant that, yea ik, thats y isnt optimal but sounds good to b lazy

[naive idol]

frost attack crit -> frost fury -> Dragonfrost -> repeat

But then they made it a RMB skill tree at some point

[dreamy sparrow]

I heard blazing beam is the best build for high ping players

[last raptor]

Id cry if the wicked didnt crit tbh

[dreamy sparrow]

I have 10 beam books left to sell lmk if you need them 🥲

[naive idol]

I guess if your ping is reeealllly high, you might as well do a nuke-ish build

[last raptor]

Idk y beam is best tbh, ice rain seems to b played thecsame

Left right ice

Left right beam

[dreamy sparrow]

I said best for high ping, ice rain u want as low ping as possible

[naive idol]

Or I could be mean to someone and tell them to just quit the game

[slow magnet]

I mean you can use what you want, but using frost fury and wicked twin dragons in general is not the optimal build. As long as you understand that and don't try and convince people otherwise when it's not the case that its better.

I read some pretty dumb reddit posts claiming that wicked twin dragons is better than using dual dragons for ice rain lol

[naive idol]

I don't think they ever mentioned saying it was an optimal build

[last raptor]

Yea but u still left right ice, just the same as beam so i dont see y ping matters if its played the same

[slow magnet]

Your cast counts are going to be much lower on ice at higher ping, it affects ice rain more than beam because you cast a lot more ice rains and the higher ping affects each individually.

[last raptor]

XD id just scream internally every non crit

[tawny siren]

wtd viability could change with this legendary book though

[naive idol]

I saw that

that is some god tier nuke

unga bunga numbers incoming

[last raptor]

Whats ur non crit and crit wicked dmg

[slow magnet]

you dont left right ice either, only when you dont have boost maybe, 80% of the time you are just spaming 2RT2RT as fast as you can and firing off whatever is off cooldown at the moment

[tawny siren]

can't wait to do 1.5m crits with it

[naive idol]

Keep me posted, I want to see the numbers

[slow magnet]

you will cast ~1.4 rmb ~1.2 LMB ~2.2 Ice rains per second

[last raptor]

What does rt stand for

[naive idol]

[slow magnet]

R = LMB T = RMB

[tawny siren]

only exists in kr as of now though

[naive idol]

Just released last week iirc

NA is on the fast lane with updates though, so I'm expecting a few months maybe

[tawny siren]

yeah, getting it is the next issue

[last raptor]

Wtf what kinda weird way of calling them lmao but then again isnt that ice left right? I see beam there

[dreamy sparrow]

Just wondering but, do u manually pressing buttons to play xD

[naive idol]

The LMB and RMB keys are also bound to R and T respectively, that's why people call it RT

[last raptor]

No, i macroed left right and just press 2

[naive idol]

Incidentally, I also manually press buttons

[slow magnet]

The actual cast order ends up being more like 2 2 LMB RMB 2 LMB 2 RMB 22 LMB 2 RMB 22

[last raptor]

But i should macro 2 and have it spam while i hold or once i tap it once

[dreamy sparrow]

I see, bc I feel like someone who had set up a macro would use r and t

[last raptor]

Ah i see

[slow magnet]

because ice rain can be cast every 0.4s during boost, rmb every 0.5s, lmb every 0.7s

• your ping

[last raptor]

Idk what kinda macro that is, i just macroed it in the razer synapse

[slow magnet]

the recast time is affected by your ping because the server has to tell you, that your skill is available again basically.

Think about it this way

[last raptor]

Hmmm i see

[slow magnet]

if you only cast your gubong soul every 1 minute and did nothing else

ping would not affect that at all basically

but as you increase the rate of casts ping will affect it more and more

this is an approximation for examples sake

so beam has a 1000ms gcd

[last raptor]

Ah... i see... lol

[slow magnet]

you can cast 1 per second in optimal ping situation

but if you have lets say 100 ping

your beams will be cast every 1100ms

[last raptor]

Hmm i see

So 100 the ice on 0.5 instead of 0.4?

[slow magnet]

basically yeah, so since youre casting it about twice as much, its affect the casts about twice as often as well

[last raptor]

I see

[slow magnet]

so instead of 2.5 ice rains max per second

it would be 2 ice rains max

a loss of 20%

vs beam, 1100 ms per beam would be a loss of 9.1% beam casts

yes

by far

the amount of damage you'd lose is much less than with ice at that ping

on dummy parses when I used a vpn to artificially increase my ping to ~65 instead of 20, I lost about 10-15% casts on ice rain in the same 2 minute parse, across 3x 2minute parse tests on each ping level

it would just get worse above 70

probably losing 30% casts or more at 200 ping

[last raptor]

at that point on 100 ping would beam actually beat ice ran?

[slow magnet]

it probably would yeah

as well as costing much less

for the gear

it definitely would if you did equal cost instead of equal gear comparison

[last raptor]

so equal gear 100 ping ice rain still wins u r saying?

cuz equal cost would mean better gear since beam is cheaper itself

[slow magnet]

probably, but im thinking equal gear as in all purple books, like maximum possible gear without a legendary book.

[last raptor]

I see

[dreamy sparrow]

U can get 4,5 beam books for the same price as 1 ice rain. Hmu if u need beams!! 🤗

[fleet wolf]

Your GCD is affected by your real-time ping, and is scaled linearly the higher the ping goes
1ms ping = 9ms added GCD
10ms = 54ms added
50ms = 254ms added
So basically 5x + 4

[sudden flint]

Why does beam, the only main skill limited to single target, also do the least damage to single targets? Where beam buff im w kelly i quitting until 2 morrow

Rownen continue 2 let the team know

[muted monolith]

beam need target and single, while ice rain taget but area and last dragonchar area attack no need target, less script xD
for the fastest casting time :
1st ice rain
2nd char
3rd beam

but beam depend heavy on burn, without burn they loss 50% dps, but the meta more and more player using purple palm, using it your dps increase 2k dps, the game design for conflict

[last raptor]

so u use this and become a selfish dps on beam right? just burning and burning, stack 6 purple beams and remove fiend fire(?

what else can u stack if past 6 purples it becomes bad to keep stacking

dual dragons? or just all in on beam

[muted monolith]

but we as fm have 2 ULTIMATE COMBO, no one using it? trash combo

[naive idol]

What's the two ultimate combo that you're talking about?

[muted monolith]

what else, chi bomb and massive blast

[naive idol]

Oh those. They're pretty good yeah. Chi Bomb takes way too long though

[cinder zinc]

is blazing palm purp better to get if I already have 3 purp ice rain

?

or should i just get another ice rain

and then buy the purp blazing palm when i have the gems

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU250625"&class="ForceMaster"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAIeqZGgAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8vXGRZ8pZxpUQaguYYuKB8PZCqFsQ6geEOrMRrN03sbgktagyuCSxJLVxG4oQ2JbM_LzixmWGxqYGluYtS92LUlPzGJY45ZSmsi4LKC0qyEllXuKen5PCAABg_rSflgAAAA"

[muted monolith]

how u stack ember?

[cinder zinc]

just left clicking i guess

[sudden flint]

palm is great but ice rain is significantly more expensive and more value to get another bound

up to u end of the day

[cinder zinc]

i was gonna choose ice rain anyways just wanted second opinions 😄

[muted monolith]

and your mode always change from ice and fire ?

[sudden flint]

although palm would be more dps boost right now, you wont be getting an ice rain for ~8k anytime soon

[cinder zinc]

ya u need to use blazing palm for focus

[cinder zinc]

yeah thats what I thought too x.x

[sudden flint]

counter argument tho is palm is bis for all 3 styles, so its nice to have it bound as well if you care about that, i selected a palm but im a beam user so it makes more sense if i wanted to switch

[last raptor]

how the hek did i jsut beat this ice rain in kitchul?

[sudden flint]

ur the best

thats y

[naive idol]

Could be many factors tbh

[last raptor]

but i only got

6 mastery on beam

LOL

me

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[sudden flint]

well for 1, frost fury blows, 2 you dont say levels, and 3, i see a lot of ice users who just have to deal with ass ping and as a result do bad

and they could just not care and not be trying

[last raptor]

levels? what levels

his lvl?

55

im 53

nvm hes at 245 ms

that explains y

[sudden flint]

ye

na server has a surprising amount of players not actually in na

[last raptor]

they're from korea actually

LOL

they're using exit lag and thats their ping

im asking them

LMAO

[sudden flint]

beam would be much better for those people but its not my choice gl to them

[swift path]

WTS EU cheap pm

[pallid grotto]

Ahahah

A real hero right there, would love to see dps numbers

Prob the cheapest full purple build u can do

[pallid grotto]

Only one question
What is your gear (cdmg, ap) and using any dpsmeter

Impossible to tank with this tho..

How much does a twisted dd hit for?

Using twisted dd badge i assume?

[slender trellis]

[shrewd bramble]

wts eu 6k

[muted monolith]

the bottleneck come from casting time dragonblaze and dragonfrost

[wraith oar]

guys which bonds do you use?

[jagged hull]

Smite and Onrush

Then Drain and/or Detect

[wraith oar]

is it better that i use

or

[wise umbra]

Life drain main priority

After a smite one, the rest u just put anyone with good stats

Im using that one, the 2 yuma fei bonds, and bay lee

[wraith oar]

this is what i use atm

but today i got blackram so idk if i should switch

and i am using dc if that matters

[outer axle]

@slender trellis hey u still active in game ?

[rugged crypt]

wts eu

[royal fable]

WTS [EU]

[torpid ivy]

WTS Purple Ice Rain Server NA DM0

[weak hemlock]

with this stats and one purple selection book chest, what the better build beam, dragon char or ice rain?

[dreamy sparrow]

Pls don’t use purple selection on beam

[weak hemlock]

why?

[dreamy sparrow]

Bc its very cheap compared to dchar and ice rain. It’s also depends on ur ping and what play style/animation u like more

If u high ping, beam is probably the choice but low ping id say dchar or ice rain. But I personally like the look of ice rain more

[weak hemlock]

ping: 23 ms

[slender trellis]

whyDo I got tagged here

yes I am

[dreamy sparrow]

Yeah I’d definitely go dchar or ice rain with your ping 🥹

If you also want to pvp then ice rain, but for purple books I think ppl said dchar do more dps?

[weak hemlock]

ty for all the info👍

[merry hearth]

is it possible to use skyburn without triggering the knock up effect?

[tawny siren]

it only knocks up if they're already stunned/dazed/knocked down

[merry hearth]

yeah

but i mean sometimes i lag and everyone already kd but i pressed my kd and it triggers after the cc bar fills up

[tawny siren]

gonna be real honest, fm kd is bad and most won't expect you to do that

[merry hearth]

and everyone acts as if i can just turn off the knock up part of my kd 😭

[merry hearth]

that's what i think too, but some ppl r just late asf to kd or dont kd so i gotta ;-;

but okok

[wary quiver]

They added a new book without telling us. Skyburn: Knockdown. Same spell but without the airborne part

[merry hearth]

oh ty

didnt know that, does it start at green or blue

[tawny siren]

yeah, but it's still a wasted skill book

[wary quiver]

Only about 200 or so gems on NA market

[merry hearth]

not bad

ill see if it goes down a bit

[wary quiver]

It's "wasted" if you want to be a selfish player in the group lol

[merry hearth]

what a shame they didnt announce it tho

[wary quiver]

Yeah... I didn't realize for a couple weeks

[merry hearth]

same with all the other book variants

not including it in tome lolol

[frozen gulch]

WTB Purp Dchar 18k

[frozen gulch]

I would say, if u have money, go Dchar

And pls dont choose purple beam in a purple book selection

💀

[naive veldt]

wts na blazning beam purple

[brittle junco]

I know my cards is trash but is it worth losing the 165 critical dmg ?

For the ap ?

[shrewd bramble]

no, just try to fuse those for gold cards

[brittle junco]

I fuse them got podan’s attendant chungsil which is a good card 💚

[jagged hull]

No way you actually fused them right

[brittle junco]

I did 💔

[jagged hull]

Its 100% a keep for one of the three 360 life drain sets

[brittle junco]

Life drain is not that much

Oh yeah that life drain look good actually but i did it already so lets change the subject before i fell regret 😂

[eager dome]

Which is better purple skill, Blazing Palm or Infernal Blow?
I have no issue with focus

[jagged hull]

Blazing Palm maximizes damage and complaints 😎

[crystal idol]

wtb wildfire 3k NA

[torpid ivy]

WTS PURPLE ICE RAIN (NA) DMO

[pure fractal]

WTS EU

PM OFFER

[balmy moth]

wts beam NA

[summer reef]

wtb purple beam na 4k

[frozen gulch]

I would say wait til u have another card for life drain

[frozen gulch]

Go Palm for more complaints =)) and down your dps together with purple blazing palm user too

[royal fable]

WTS [EU]

[last raptor]

As Beam user when do u get rid of Fiend Fire?

[jagged hull]

When youre using Wildfire, and can replace Impact and Fiend Fire by purple beams.

I think youre supposed to replace blue beams by purple beams first, though you could swap Fiend Fire out earlier for convenience

[last raptor]

since theres so many purple palms

i was wondering if i can drop fiend fire at a certain lv of mastery of beam

as well as getting wild fire

so i can use wild and bale to keep up my burn

meteor doesnt even seem to be needed to keep focus tbh

i was testing just now

[jagged hull]

I think beam can even play without balefire?

Ofcourse only when you have Wildfire

[last raptor]

ohh

wildfire cd is 9s

true, can play without bale i guess probably

was thinking of swaping mystic badge too

for the dragonfrost one

so that i can use dual dragons mroe often if i never need focus

as well as dragonfrost that gives focus too

[jagged hull]

The other mystic badge is amazing if youre the one applying bleed

Or for dragonchar for focus reasons

[last raptor]

the other? = w =

[jagged hull]

The mystic badge that triggers on fiend fire is good for Blazing Wall (better variation of Meteor Shower)

[potent oak]

WTS NeckLace PM : annelis (NA) Heaven Reach

[last raptor]

oh

[jagged hull]

Dual dragons mystic badge

[last raptor]

but i kinda wanna give up meteor

[jagged hull]

Meteor is kinda meh

Blazing Wall is quite good

[last raptor]

rly?

i gotta try it out i guess

[jagged hull]

But Blazing Wall only gives crit dmg% on purple tier

[last raptor]

btw

how big is the

ember explosion on

purple palm

would it be better than purple infernal blow?

[jagged hull]

Yeah its better

[last raptor]

i see

[jagged hull]

Just makes it a little harder to proc burn

But nothing you cant handle

[last raptor]

i mean wildfire should fix all issues U w u

[jagged hull]

Yeah wildfire is very good

[last raptor]

since fiend fire goes bye

then its no longer a headache

[jagged hull]

Fiend fire is a good skill for field bosses

[last raptor]

I just wanna drop everything i can drop and keep more beams

though since ppl were saying beyond 6 purple books its no longer that good to keep going, makes me wonder if i should stack something else too

[jagged hull]

No other skill is worth stacking

Maybe dual dragons in the future

But youre going to want the legendary version of it

[last raptor]

legendary beam seems so bad tho

lower dmg? at base and slightly higher on burn

[jagged hull]

Its about 20% more beam damage

You may be viewing the legendary one without skillpoints

[last raptor]

ah

u mean i gota remove all my beams

to see the actual dif?

lol

[jagged hull]

Well you can just check on yast

[last raptor]

just checked XD just removed my beams lol

[frozen gulch]

Just play Dragonchar

=))

U will no more thinking about skill

Just dragonchar, purple blazing and frost palm with purp wildfire are enough =))

If u want more, go balefire

done

[brittle junco]

Ice need more love
The time casing 1 x z is killing the dmg
They have to puff ice fms 🥶

[jagged hull]

Youre not going to have a good time playing char without focus regen

[jagged hull]

Have you heard of the legendary skill

[brittle junco]

Yes in the next few years for f2p like myself

[idle dagger]

years is optimistic

[brittle junco]

In that time we will be already quitting

[torpid ivy]

WTB Purple Dualdragons/FrostPalm DMO

[slender trellis]

yes ice fm need more buff

[slow magnet]

we gotta roll legendary ice rain

i need 1 more legendary book then its time to roll

[brittle junco]

I hope you get it 💚 try to sell it though alot of crazy rich people will buy it

[slow magnet]

wym i am one of those people who would buy it

[frozen gulch]

WTS NA

[cedar tulip]

B> Leg Beam NA Heavens Reach

[fading leaf]

WTS NA

[brittle junco]

Do i upgrade or buy one from the market with crit chance and try to roll for the crit dmg ? My luck is bad and if 100gold go for nothing i will delete the game

[jagged hull]

May want to look at the upgrade chance 💀

[brittle junco]

How much please im already dc 🥹

If 50% i will take it

[jagged hull]

only 20% success

Your weapon is not worth spending an average of 500g on

[brittle junco]

So do i keep playing with purple?

It feels old

[jagged hull]

No the ap does make the weapon a very good upgrade

[brittle junco]

So what u think upgrade or buy one from f5 for 2k gems

With only 1 crit state and roll for the secand ?

[jagged hull]

Idk if thats worth over using a cheaper copy and rerolling both stats yourself

3/10 for a good stat on the 1st line, then 2/10 on the 2nd line

[brittle junco]

Thanks 💚

[cedar tulip]

If you high rolled your stat lines it’s prob better to just try and upgrade it

I rolled like a 90% and like a 85% at true. Sadly I had to tap my weapon 5 times in order to get the hexwood

But them adding stat rerolls for accs and weapons does make it a reasonable choice to reroll a terrible bangle to a decent one.

honestly your choice at this point. Gaining like 27 AP is a solid dps upgrade

[jagged hull]

Something like a crit/acc critdmg + 3 mantra slots would be worth it

[brittle junco]

Mantra feels useless i got one with 2 mantra and with 170+ crit rate and useless other stat i dont remember i reroll it 2 time got accuracy good amount I don’t remember how much xD
Its ok
Everything cost me less or maybe say 2k gems (100 gold)
I think its good price
And i already fail 1 upgrade

But still better than upgrading my purple weapon an fail 100 gold that will be my career end

Im now crafting selling charms maybe i get 500gems back

[jagged hull]

@upbeat flame you can take this as a basic blue build

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU250625"&class="ForceMaster"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIANmvaWgAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8o3GRZ8pZxpUQ6hqYYmKC8LZAqB8QQQkI7wiEp7MRbIpvYnFJalFlcEliSWrjNhQhsGWZ-XnFjcsMjU0NLM1blroXpabmMSxxyilN5VoWUFpUkJPKsMQ9PyeFAQDyaKK5nQAAAA"

Note it shows multiple copies of blazing beam

Meteor Shower and Cold Snap are optional depending on focus needs

Blue blazing palm vs infernal blow is probably not too relevant, you can stay with what you have (but you probably do need the meteor and/or cold snap for focus in that case?)

Purple upgrades are roughly

1. blazing beam
2. blazing palm
3. blazing wall, wildfire (can drop impact and fiend fire in that case)
4. dual dragons (for bleed, situational), upgrade blue blazing beams to purple
   Dont use selector boxes on cheap skills.

You can keep divine veil and frost sheath on a secondary accessory to use for poha+chef (though you could even use the non-skillbook divine veil in that case.)

[cedar tulip]

LF> Leg beam NA heavens reach. ty ty

[prime helm]

hello guys
i want some tips in lunar im trying to rech lvl 60 , my lvl is 55 (51% to get lvl 56 ) igot 200% combat exp i think its good enough till me if i need more .
im playing FM with blazing beem build my state ( 850 AP /4200 CR / 2600 CD / 1300 ACC )
my DPS 16K - 18K in BSH2
Should i change my build or its still work on lunar should i go what to do exactly Thank you 🙂

[prisma plover]

if it is your main you should go dragonchar anyway

but it depends on your ping

[prime helm]

my ping is 70-80

[prisma plover]

its okay enough to play dragonchar

[prime helm]

do i need purple skill to play dragonchar ( i mena the whole skills )

[prisma plover]

its must have

without purple dragonchar you shouldnt swap from blazing beam

[prime helm]

how about he wildfire and blazing palm and fire wall is it necessary to be purple

[prisma plover]

Wildfire isnt crucial but its nice to have because its easier

[prime helm]

sorry imena blazing wall

[prisma plover]

blazing palm is a nice addition to dps

blazing wall is important because it gives u 10% crit dmg overall

you should also use cold snap (ice z) to restore your focus and your balefire (burn also) (fire c)

and when you want to burn you should do F>1 (dual dragons > shock fire)

[prime helm]

yea i got them both ( blue skill )

after that i can easy deal dmg in lunar right ?

[prisma plover]

Yes, because your dragonchar is aoe and you can shove multiple enemies

and if you miss to burn nothing big happens because dmg bonus from burn isnt that much in opposite to blazing beam

[prime helm]

thx alot ❤️

[prime helm]

ok about the lunar what mob lvl should i fight and should go solo or duo or full grope and what is the minimum exp should i get from there to know im good or not

[prisma plover]

its better to have a party because you can do multiple spots in short time

im getting 60k exp with my 120% combat bonus per 30 minutes

but it depends because sometimes Yeti can spawn which gives u more than 4k exp

[cedar tulip]

I reccomend soloing Verdent if your strong enough

I was getting around 240k per 30 mins on 280% exp

[prime helm]

so basically i go the lvl that allows me to do solo im i right ?

and how much acc should i get to avide miss in lunar

[odd marsh]

WTS Blue blazingbeam x7 EU Moonwater

[tawny siren]

you need a low ping to play dragonchar effectively

[vestal urchin]

WTB Force Blast Purple!

[frank canopy]

1.85

didn't know it was actually possible

gz

[fleet wolf]

focus issue tho, it will clip without a Sum

[frozen gulch]

What is 1.6 and 1.85?

Char hit/sec?

[jagged hull]

240 hits divided by 26 seconds

Then divide that by 5 hits per cast of dragonchar

43.8% crit rate feels a little 😔

though I guess that includes a bunch of stuff that cant crit

[frozen gulch]

Ah

How can he does that much

macro?

[wraith oar]

is dc also good with macros?

[fading leaf]

WTS NA

[brittle junco]

Hey guys how to glow like this ? Is it on the settings? I don’t glow at all

[wicked citrus]

I think thats the life drain activating

[brittle junco]

Yeah its for real xD thaks alot

[cedar tulip]

LF> Leg beam NA heavens reach. ty ty

[fleet wolf]

macro + 5ms

[frozen gulch]

U play 2R and click T and F manually right @fleet wolf

[fleet wolf]

I play with TR2 macro manual everything else, this is just 26s burst count,
actual fights would range from 1.6 to 1.69

[frozen gulch]

Cool cool

Im too lazy

Doing TR2F

But I can only did 1.45

just calculate

😦 ping 40

[fleet wolf]

with 40ms you should be able to hit 1.55+

[frozen gulch]

How come

I means if I do F manually

its hard

What is your auto delay repeat?

[tawny siren]

why would you ever want to add f to your macro?

[jagged hull]

Is it though

Theyre used when you need focus or when you need to apply burn (if no wildfire)

Macroing them will often just waste the focus

[dim ingot]

WTS NA

[sleek musk]

Might as well add that u modified game files ^

[fleet wolf]

Stable 10ms + Set of hands & mouse macro is all you need

[sleek musk]

For 1.6 yes. Anything above that u need to modify game files. But u know that already so

25sec sure 1.7 maybe rest nah

[fleet wolf]

You can’t doesn’t mean others can’t

[sleek musk]

Funny u say that while i know for a fact u did certain things to your client

Either way man hf

[fleet wolf]

No need to reply when you can’t understand simple sentences

[sleek musk]

I agree, pointless to argue with someone who has modified game files

[slender trellis]

is the argue finished?

sadge..

[sleek musk]

He deleted his previous SS. Point proven i suppose

[slender trellis]

[fleet wolf]

The said image was reported by someone and deleted by mods

Child behavior tbh

[slender trellis]

Yeah Nik is young I can tell

[sleek musk]

Huh?

[slender trellis]

[deft finch]

does FM have awakened skill from warlock?

AFAIK we can spam F skill on BnS live

[jagged hull]

Soulburn is not a party skill on neo

[ocean forge]

dw KYUREM don't listen to the chinese guy

[dim ingot]

WTS NA

[brittle bobcat]

🤦‍♀️
My man really thought he could flex gcd reduction without getting caught, cloudv2. Well it's inevitable anyway I suppose.

[molten apex]

WTS >NA - PURPLE Massive Snowball > PMO

[potent jasper]

#1364402009381539860 message WTS these.

[vernal gazelle]

quick question to ICE RAIN FMs, is Purple Blazing Palm busting you much in comparison to blue one ?

[slender trellis]

it does

[cedar tulip]

purple blazing palm is always a dps increase for any of the FM builds right now.

I use it as a Beam FM as well. I just keep burn uptime via Purple Wildfire

[wraith oar]

question for dragonchar fms, when is the right time to throw out fiend fire?

[prisma plover]

Always when F+1

[frank canopy]

on cd, or delay it a bit if you got soulcore coming up soon

[potent jasper]

#1364402009381539860 message wts these

[deft karma]

on dragonchar build, is it possible to not run out of focus without having to go into ice stance?

[jagged hull]

Maybe with enough crit

More than possible rn

[deft karma]

i only have 3k crit now. time to get more crit then

am i doing it correctly by holding down LMB and spam clicking dragonchar?

[north girder]

can you guys help me, Xsmouse for FM ice

[slender trellis]

what do you need..

[jagged hull]

Any reason why youre holding it down vs spamming 🤔

[deft karma]

with my ping kinda feels better holding LMB down but another video shows TR2 instead so i might just use that instead

[jagged hull]

Holding is basically always worse than spamming

[deft karma]

I see. Yeah ima just try TR2 now

[jagged hull]

RMB mostly comes into play when you have less focus regen active

[tawny siren]

probably not, you're not always going to be able to use shock fire on 5 embers every 6s

[fading leaf]

WTS NA

[cedar tulip]

WTB Leg beam

[prisma plover]

WTB - purple dragonchar [EU]

[summer reef]

wtb purple beam na 4,7k just list it on marketplace will instan buy

[potent jasper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364402009381539860/1392129822578184333/image.png?ex=68725dee&is=68710c6e&hm=acd12be05afde042a5d2158162bf150b3e4d1049d1f94c65c42edbe5b5fe3cd0& wts dm discord

[upbeat flame]

Hello guya
Blazing beam build
Better meteor shower or blazing wall blue versions ?

[jagged hull]

Should be wall

But you gotta go melee

Dont think its really worth switching to before purple.

[muted monolith]

just go meteor shower easy play, blazing wall for pvp burn kfm or bm

[fleet wolf]

If you do Wall you must use Fiend badge to make it worth using

[prisma plover]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-you-speak-heresy-warhammer-40k-what-did-you-say-don't-say-that-gif-3570587536222968742

[jagged hull]

No you can definetly use it with the other badge

[cedar tulip]

WTS>

NA heavens reach

[terse fiber]

@median sonnet kinda curious. Why impact burn? 😄

[median sonnet]

i like the low cd, the fact that its aoe, so i can apply burn to a group of mobs, and most of all the faster cast time, 500ms gcd vs 1000 on shock fire

also dont rly need the focus anymore

[terse fiber]

😮

[prime helm]

hello
what is the macro for ice rain ( and the mil/sec numbers between ) my ping is 70 -75 also does burn increse ice dmg ? if yes should i add it with C fire ?

[upbeat flame]

Guya i got meteor shower blue
If i want purple would be this or blazing fire ?
Guess ppl go with blazing fire

• quick question
  Blazing palm how much is it ? Purple
  Worth for the purple selector or not

[jagged hull]

Yeah blazing wall

Would expect blazing palm around like 10k

Dont know how much blazing beam costs nowadays

[deft finch]

4.5k NA

[cinder zinc]

WTB PURP BLAZING PALM NA

[night nacelle]

sorry this is a repost but maybe I asked in the wrong area,

purple palm or wildfire for biggest dps increase using beam? Basically is 100% burn uptime more efficient than palm's ember explosion and I know the ultimate answer is actually both. but which one first ? (edited)

[jagged hull]

Wildfire doesnt increase burn uptime

Just makes it easier

At some point it allows you to drop other burn applying skills, but the damage gain from that isnt close to what purple palm gives.

[night nacelle]

isn't wildfire 10 sec burn and 9 sec cool down so, one instance isn't 100%, but as long as you work it in every 9 sec it amounts to 100% uptime, no?

[jagged hull]

The implication that wildfire is the only burn applying skill is incorrect

But yes, it can do burn uptime by itself

You may still need balefire for focus recovery however

[night nacelle]

ah, I never implied it was, but why use any other skill when wildfire clearly, at least on paper is all you need to promote 100% uptime for burn?

speaking strictly about burn

[jagged hull]

The other burn applying method you alternate with Balefire is used for Fiend Fire too

[night nacelle]

ok

but the overall, answer is purple palm damage far outweighs whatever gains from 100% burn uptime anyway.

[jagged hull]

Yeah

Especially if it means replacing skills with blue beam stacks

[night nacelle]

my beam GM level is, I think, 24 at the moment

[versed patrol]

Hi everyone, can you help me figure out what I'm doing wrong with this build in Exile? I can't seem to deal more than 20-21k damage. Any tips?
I'm not using any macros, and it's a Dragonchar build.

[pallid grotto]

go dummy and try to have dc uptime and not perma focus down

[jagged hull]

Youre not showing your ap

but yeah not getting the extra focus from blazing palm sounds very problematic on dragonchar

[wraith oar]

do anyone knows how is fm state in kr?

[fleet wolf]

Anything except for legendary Ice Rain is weakaf

[wise umbra]

But leg ice rain is one of the most op builds, one of the kr content creator made a rank of builds, and fm ice was the 4th, first bm puncture, second sum sunflower, third bd wind

[fleet wolf]

Yes

In terms of PvE dps FM would only rank 4th / 5th

[icy dragon]

NA FM - WTB purple dragonchar PMO

[cinder zinc]

how much is purp force blast usually

[prime helm]

does the blazing palm ( purple ) must in ice build or skip and getting more purple ice rain better ?

[fleet wolf]

It’s a must for Ice Rain

[brittle junco]

Idk the purple ice rain worth more but nice to have purple palm
Go for the copy and get the palm from the market yourself it worth 10k gems eu

Last time i got mine

[cedar tulip]

get your main dps skill

blazing palm is like 15% of your dps

but main skill is like 50-65% of your overall dps

so get the main skill

[jagged hull]

Thats not how you do math

Upgrading blazing palm from blue to purple is much more impactful than getting an extra 4gm on ice rain

[cedar tulip]

I dont think hes stacking 4 GM on it, I think hes upgrading from blue IR to purple IR

[jagged hull]

Note the "more"

[jagged hull]

^ if were talking about the selector chest then do go for the more expensive skill

[cedar tulip]

ah I see

well yeah you are right

stacking another set isnt worth over purp Blazing palm, but might as well focus the most expensive skill

[shrewd bramble]

EU WTB purple rb, char

[muted monolith]

how much your single dragonchar hit on burn active?

[wise walrus]

Hi There, I'm playing BnS too and was wondering if you can help me with my icerain build ? (im reading FM chat on BnS official and saw your name often)

anybody have a good and reliable macro for icerain build ? im trying to figure one myself, but I also wanted advice from ppl !

[cinder zinc]

WTB Purp Force Blast NA

[wraith oar]

does purple deadlock contribute anything on dragonchar?

(focus one)

[merry hearth]

dmg, no

[wraith oar]

Aight ty

[jagged hull]

@prime helm I dont play ice rain

But you can look at what other ice rain fms use, for example sayurii (with the /who command ingame, note that this is an eu player.)

The divine veil is an optional skill

[fleet wolf]

WTB Purp Frost Palm & Dual Dragon NA

[median sonnet]

ayo when is char leggy book getting fixed

[jagged hull]

whats wrong with it?

[tawny siren]

it costs 3 focus

[jagged hull]

Do we know if the same is true on kr?

I thought it looked like it was

[tawny siren]

it's not a bug, but that makes it a pretty bad book

[jagged hull]

Yeah

I dont think we can sustain the focus requirement at all

[tawny siren]

could work with legy dual dragons but that's about it

[jagged hull]

I think our current version already shows 300ms during boost on yast

so I dont think it'll actually be faster

[tawny siren]

the animation is definitely not 300 ms at max boost, that's for sure

[jagged hull]

Its quite weird how ice rain gains so much more from legendary

Legendary dual dragons does look pretty wild

They should just give wicked twin the crit buff too

The skill does look pretty interesting

Now we just need a skill like warlock to make the first cast instant too

[median sonnet]

it is

for months now

and the speed is prolly the same, i think the gcd is 300, but the animation is 400 ms

and thats prolly why you can only get out 2.5/s

its the same for ice rain

[median sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K4ObDfNmZ4

the guy in the vid is comparing purple and leggy versions

cant rly tell if its faster or not tho

[deft finch]

indeed, if awakening skill from warlock soulburn make wicked twin instan cast, the boss will meltdown under 1 minute

[fleet wolf]

Leg char is 300ms GCD + ~100ms animation lock

Dats why you can hit a lot more LMB & RMB with Ice Rain but not Char

[brittle junco]

Yes as you can see clearly Im the best fm ice player ever
So u will be glad that Im the one who will guide u
Ice fm need 2 macro
first macro: 22rtf
Second macro: tzx1
U start your rotation with right click (ice) > throw your cold snap(x) > hold the first macro > after the boost end hold the second macro tell u throw cold snap again > hold the first macro tell the boost end and 1 is not on cooldown > when 1 is up hold secand macro and repeat.

For summary: the first macro is the main rotation u hold it tell the boost end and 1 not on cooldown
The secand macro to get the boost as fast as possible to hold the first macro again

Hold for repeat and no delay 0

🍀The 22rft you will cast only one 2 but i put it 22 to make sure u will cast it 🍀

[brittle junco]

U can skip dual dragons for other ice rain copy

And

:

Will make u live longer nice to have
Other skills not needed

[slender trellis]

I think whatever 2rt2 or 2r2t or 22rt need to be optimized by your own..

Depends on your frame rate or ping thing…

[shrewd bramble]

wts eu pmo

[rough crow]

wts na pmo

[brisk trout]

WTB EU

[wise walrus]

tyty Elizabeth !! its rly appreciated

[wise walrus]

I guess I should lock dragonfrost and dragonblaze?

[small nexus]

WTB Blazing Palm NA 3.5k

[sinful nimbus]

WTS NA

[dense atlas]

WTS NA

[brittle junco]

Yeah you lock them and lock the f skill when the target cc or in air
You also lock: the fire z and x so u don’t hit them by accident

[wraith oar]

Once again the legendary question, dragonchar fm blazing wall mystic or dual dragons?

[jagged hull]

Dual dragons because bleed and/or focus

[wraith oar]

I stay out of focus even with 4.6k cr but to be fair it may just be a skill issue

Currently using blazing wall badge

[jagged hull]

Is fine too

[wraith oar]

Maybe cuz i dont use blue frost palm but i doubt thats the case since i only go ice for cold snap and dd

30 gm on dc feels more worth

[jagged hull]

I havent seen anyone else do that

[tawny siren]

not using blue frost palm means you only gain 3 focus from cold snap and dragonfrost

doesn't seem worth it

[jagged hull]

Honestly most of the time I just do 2rt

Frost palm actually does a lot of damage tbh

[wraith oar]

You play manually or macrom

[jagged hull]

Macro

Extra button to switch between 2r and 2rt

I think no-book frost palm also has a twice as long animation?

[tawny siren]

yeah 1000 ms

[wraith oar]

Yea i leggit was only using rmb for ice stance

[jagged hull]

I happen to have a bound purple frost palm

[wraith oar]

I see

I have bound purple blazing palm but frost no

Did you drop fiend fire or u still using it? @jagged hull

[jagged hull]

Still using it

Though it sure is tempting to drop it

[wraith oar]

Yea i agree on that one

[jagged hull]

I think I still like having shock fire for some extra focus too

[wraith oar]

If if crits epic

Ye i have shockfire aswell

[jagged hull]

Shock fire + fiend fire still definetly deals more than 2 blue dragonchar books

I did add wildfire recently

And used to use Deadlock, but recently replaced it for Body Double for convenience

Happen to have that book bound too

[wraith oar]

Maybe i should for now give frost palm a try and get a dd badge + book

[eager dome]

hmm he is really lucky have ice rain leg

[slender trellis]

lucky guy

[wise walrus]

with your macro set at 0, I feel like I'm missing focus. Is there something wrong im doing ? when I set it at 0.01 it does help.

[wise walrus]

wow how in the world. dont tell me he salvage purp book and proc this legend book! xD

[rough crow]

Yep 1 attempt

[wise walrus]

god damn ! lol

I cant even get a purp lol

[brittle junco]

Can u show me video of u on the dummy

[slow magnet]

im 0/33 on legendary transmutes since last patch