Force Master

[sharp grotto]

everyone on bnslive bro

[brave crest]

Hello is there any example for simple Fire build?

[distant inlet]

beam or char?

[brave crest]

char please

[distant inlet]

Blues?

[brave crest]

yep

[brave crest]

thank!!

[swift path]

WTB Purple Meteor/BlazingBeam EU

[fickle glen]

blue dragonchar 💀

just play beam tbh

till u get purple char

[median sonnet]

[opal bolt]

so just play beam until the end then

[terse fiber]

I guess pretty much progression looks like Green Beam > Blue Beam/Blue Ice Rain > Purple Char/Purple Rain? Unless someone wants to beam on purple

And at the end > Leg Rain

[fickle glen]

for new content

should be char>rain>beam but

idk how much damage beam gets on lvl diff

[jagged hull]

Unfortunately Ice still requires a significantly higher initial investment

So I think you pretty much always make the jump to Blue Beam first

though its hardly a jump anymore at 350 gems for a blue beam lol

[brittle junco]

We all switching to steam so why we still trying to improve?

[jagged hull]

I thought we were going to bns peak

[brittle junco]

Dead server already

[fickle glen]

honestly I love that cn gets raids

[rigid gate]

got that for my level 50 should I use that over the other option, currently using ice and have blue variant on other

[surreal nymph]

Fm/bm also neet

I dislike archer in the start bc it did lot of dmg to u

[lyric stump]

use veil and problem solved

[surreal nymph]

Well I don’t have an issue anymore

I just pref bm

Why make it harder for myself

[knotty torrent]

I would do BM and KFM when I couldn't kill the FM and Archer in one veil

[frank canopy]

WTS EU

[tame mauve]

yea thanks guys i did it after buying blue frost palm cuz i always run into focus issues at the wrong times and cant cast it to try to freeze/tab

[brittle junco]

It only work with blazing beam

Ice rain need the focus recovery one

I got twin dragon as my lvl50 😭 i solvage it xD

[rigid gate]

cheers will put it to one side until I might swap over to blazing beam if I get more of their skills sorted

[brittle junco]

Yes just save it for later 👌🏻

[lyric stump]

I can confirm, we don't need it on beam either

purple palm the best

[swift path]

WTB Purple Meteor/BlazingBeam EU

[median sonnet]

.

[ocean forge]

Dude it's really you?? Walex from blade and soul???

[median sonnet]

no its not

[ocean forge]

Omg everyone knows you Walex don't be shy about it

[median sonnet]

its whalex

theres a difference

[wicked citrus]

Force Masters who leave parties bc there's another fm with purple blazing palm

[median sonnet]

[wicked citrus]

[median sonnet]

i was curious if you were gonna be on their side or against them

[wicked citrus]

oh im against them

it makes no sense why they get mad

it's a gain for the party

[median sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/only-game-heff-be-mad-gif-5038541

[pallid grotto]

People who cannot go meele to press dd+1 or don't know cause not reading their own skills...heh

[wicked citrus]

im also ice so i never had a bad experience

but common sense, it's a gain for the party to have multiple

[gusty bear]

Tbh if you don't do like 20k+ dps then I leave if you have purple palm

It's annoying and I'm not going to bother switching my rotation unless you are carrying

[wise umbra]

Next patch with the new purple Z, it will be ok guys

[graceful hawk]

[wicked citrus]

NA market is so odd

Blazing Palm was 25k about a week ago, now it’s 10k

Ice Rain and Dragonchar still 40k+

[pallid grotto]

if u see single book cheap doesn't mean avg prices, just one cheap sale (ragequitter or rerolling)
if u see multiple at lower rates that's where u can tell it's dropped
don't confuse that

WTB EU

[wicked citrus]

Well yes theres like 4 for 10k-11k

[pallid grotto]

then that's nice

[wise umbra]

only whales pay more than 10k avg on purples

i wish NA had the EU prices :/

[brittle junco]

What u mean

[wise umbra]

In kr at least, in this next patch they got wildfire buff, 10sec cd and apply burn

No buffs to fiend fire with z, but at least fire fms can keep burn

[harsh nymph]

R you ready to get bound frost burst tomorrow?

[jagged hull]

I'm ready to get something better tomorrow 😎

[wicked citrus]

Woohoo time for a 3rd frost fury

[viral carbon]

frost burst is at least useful in pvp, better than complete trash like brightfire or blinding blaze

[wicked citrus]

Praying for ice rain

[median sonnet]

char pls jesus

man the worst thing i could get is a blazing beam or ice rain

[slow magnet]

Debating if I want to open it on my FM or not

The chance of ice rain #6 is so low lol

[slow magnet]

The worst one has got to be ice beam additional damage

[dreamy sparrow]

Anyone selling a good legendary bracelet that has Cdmg 🙏🏻

[south sage]

That's what I got for my lvl 50 book. It hurt

[fervent pond]

Same

[brittle junco]

I have no luck in books but lets see i only want ice rain if not im ok with char anything else maybe i consider quitting, because this game all depends on luck and it’s unplayable for unlucky player like me

https://tenor.com/view/good-bad-luck-bad-luck-our-luck-be-like-our-luck-gif-8506382143004584396

Like my friend Reas he is beam player and he win purple ice rain from the pass after playing about a week ice he quit because he didn’t like it

They force us to play something we don’t like, every free book should be selectable

[radiant dagger]

WTS EU PM

[naive veldt]

WTS NA

[wraith tundra]

WTS EU

[brittle junco]

As ice fm what to get first purple frost palm or purple blazing palm ??
And for detonates on 5 ember how much dmg normally for 830ap it give ?

[teal jetty]

blazing palm first, should be around 8k per detonate depending on crit damage -assuming it crits

[brittle junco]

That is really nice ok thanks alot

[fickle glen]

people wont take you to parties with another fm

u have low gear

some ppl doesnt even take me even tho I have 20k dps rn

its risky investment

[jagged hull]

All the ice fms leeching on my dragonchar embers 😔

[pallid grotto]

honestly? it's perfect teamplay here, party dps gain

if ppl stop caring about their own few digits and care about clearing bosses instead

[fickle glen]

pathetic virgins needs to prove their d1ck is big on the ppmeter

[pallid grotto]

epenis meter aint clearing sh*t other than ego booster

[fickle glen]

also

purple select

is up on next bp

WITH WARLOCK IMAGE

IMAGINE IF WE HAD THE SOULBURN TBH

[terse fiber]

Someone already posted his purple char on market after this info was released XD

[jagged hull]

Beam too

[terse fiber]

but stackers will still need more purple books so i guess prices wont change that much?

[jagged hull]

Somehow this will convince more people to try Ice Rain, making Ice Rain more expensive

[pallid grotto]

i put it, and i put it before

if u need, take, i think offer is fair

[terse fiber]

Ah k. I guess timing was kinda funny then 😄

[pallid grotto]

ye

hahah

[terse fiber]

But still people are panic selling thinking it will tank purple book market

[pallid grotto]

if
i doubt

we all need dupes

if u only needed one total market would crash.

tho some skills (sin, bm, sum) will drop down to 30-40k range perma now assumably

[terse fiber]

If we would have too many of them on market then i'd understand, but its so empty :v

Just hoping for what Salacia said. Wanna sell my gamba rain for some profit 😄

[brittle junco]

Not low gear excuse me u can say im natural ( f2p) not on steroids (p2w) 😎
Thanks for the advice i will take frost palm first for now it’s cheaper and no one will hates me in the party 🤝🏻👍🏻

[fickle glen]

I am also f2p

also

you don't need to buy stuff

just save money for ur gear

[brittle junco]

Sure 😂

[pallid grotto]

u sellin rain?

[opal bolt]

to be honest if u have low gear, just buy better gear

[brittle junco]

You 200% on steroids

[terse fiber]

Oh god what have i done

[pallid grotto]

it's happening ahah

gogo guys push prices doowwwn

[opal bolt]

15k 😄 was still at 25+ when I did quit

[fickle glen]

didnt nellan sold all of his chars from 12?

[pallid grotto]

nellan did mass sale yes

[fickle glen]

go for legendaries tbh, you will get tons of dmg from raw ap

[terse fiber]

He said that he did. I've seen some for 16k for sure

[brittle junco]

My theory become true i called that first u now guys im smart, hella smart actually

[terse fiber]

Do we think they are that smart to leak WL? 😄

[brittle junco]

About The selection purple i mean

[terse fiber]

Ahh k 😄

[brittle junco]

What are laughing at 😂

I eaven made an image for that theory year ago

Look

[fickle glen]

event rewards btw

[brittle junco]

Im the one who called nc for a purple push

[fickle glen]

i love my frost sheath hp recovery!

[terse fiber]

At least its usable XD Not like Wildfire

Or purple fire Z

[jagged hull]

Isnt wildfire the skill that will be updated

[terse fiber]

its fire tab. dunno if it will get update tbh

[brittle junco]

Every z skill maybe ?

[jagged hull]

Fire storm

Seems decent for tanking if you get it cheap

[brittle junco]

X

Which skill is frost sheath ? Im bad at names

[jagged hull]

Ice V

Aka party ice

Aka the one people dislike when you do, dislike when you dont

[terse fiber]

I guess Poh and slashimi were the only 2 that ice was welcome to be used

[radiant dagger]

WTS EU

[terse fiber]

[jagged hull]

Blame them ^

[pallid grotto]

officially pvp main now

[jagged hull]

I guess ice specs are fun in pvp

[pallid grotto]

gz

i will get that next bp

😄

[prisma quartz]

Will this one still be bad even after it gets updated?

[lyric stump]

gz

am stuck with this skill forever apperntly

[slow magnet]

grats

[ocean forge]

that sh1t is so fkin bad its crazy

[lyric stump]

all three are bound kek

[terse fiber]

time to log in and get my purple frost armor

[valid walrus]

now i have 1 for each hand

[lyric stump]

thats great drop actually

[valid walrus]

i can make fire fms twice as angry

[lyric stump]

already making them

sucks i had to buy it for 10k just to bother others lol

[valid walrus]

[fickle glen]

only if it really did scale the explosion dmg..

[terse fiber]

XD

[brittle junco]

Omg noooo i win infernal blow shitt

To the inventory for ever

With the frost tornado

RIP

[lyric stump]

ouch

[brittle junco]

With the twin dragon as well

[lyric stump]

twin is good

[brittle junco]

Im ice fm

Not good

[lyric stump]

still good

[brittle junco]

No not for my macro

[lyric stump]

5 bleed is nice

[brittle junco]

Nah i dont like how it cast no thanks but thanks for the support of my useless purple book

[lyric stump]

[brittle junco]

But dam miss Elizabeth looks hot

😂

[pallid grotto]

omg it's alice

[valid walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-are-you-my-family-just-hatched-cute-wave-gif-16120889

[lyric stump]

gz

[brittle junco]

What ? 10k ???

For real ?

[jagged hull]

Its like 35% more than blue char

[brittle junco]

Is it better go for purple ice rain or char for the next selection purple ?

[jagged hull]

Still hard to reach +10k though

[brittle junco]

Oh thin i stick with icerain

[jagged hull]

You should play the build you like the most

was the before without sum and the after with sum

[fickle glen]

char is stronger than ice if you can play

focus is issue

[brittle junco]

Its more fun to see the ice and ice sound is better, char feel the character is slow and boring

[tawny siren]

dragonchar is anything but slow

[jagged hull]

Blue char is kinda slow

oof

[brittle junco]

I do 16k CS i kinda improved, i think i will hit 20k when i get purple cheap blazing palm 25k with purple icerain dam what a nice free roadmap for me

Dam how smart i am

Super smart

[ocean forge]

Nice calcs

[fickle glen]

how do you get 5k from rain bro

[brittle junco]

Tell the purple chest most likely i will gain more ap and crit dmg and when i get the purple ice rain added its ez 5k improvement 😎

[harsh nymph]

Dream calcs:)

[viral carbon]

the game heard me... the extra focus regen and stats will be kinda nice i guess

[radiant dagger]

WTS EU

[grand ravine]

any dragonchar guides? since ill actually be able to get a purple dragonchar finally

[tame mauve]

since i know u guys dont like utilities especially icerain users xdd is sheath and veil swappable for icerain ?

[candid heart]

Is blue ice palm necessary, for dragon char build

[fickle glen]

blue rmb/lmb is must on everything

[candid heart]

Right now my build gets blue bale/rmb/lmb/shealth,dual dragon/tornado/meteor/parry and green kd/shock fire/veil
I only have 5 blue char, I want to take some skill out to put more char

My bracelet only have 2 skill slot

[brittle junco]

No

[brittle junco]

Im not a char player but u can take off the kd for now

[tawny siren]

veil is swappable imo

[brittle junco]

Needed some bosses and also u worth nothing in 6v6 without it, this skill make u unkillable, for the daily factions and more, u wanna swap it for 200dmg increase on char ???? U crazy

The first boss in cs he will beat the shiit out of u without it

Fm is not fm without veil

[candid heart]

Ty

[knotty torrent]

thanks game

[faint stone]

Just have the utility skills on another piece

And switch accessories

[wise umbra]

If u are fire, it will be op next patch

[knotty torrent]

oh rly? :0

[wise umbra]

Yeah, burn with 9 secds of cd, check on yast kr

[knotty torrent]

woah what thats op

ok so good book then, just gotta wait a bit

[wicked citrus]

Veil and sheathe are definitely both replaceable

[mortal wigeon]

WTS EU

[frank canopy]

To who ever is refreshing that at 2k stop coping my man

[gusty bear]

crit rate + crit d 😄

[pallid grotto]

U will use this if u play dc/bb in future dw

[brittle junco]

When the purple books prices will start drop ?

We not buying lower the prices

[jagged hull]

In theory people just pick their 2 skills, so a first selection box shouldnt affect things that much.

[pallid grotto]

Only 1 skill that is oblivion priced that u need of a "spec"

[brittle junco]

No no no your theory make a contradiction with my theory
So its false

[pallid grotto]

U still need to stack them
So a first one will help prices, fm prices already on lower end compared to other classes tho

Don't expect any big price drops

[jagged hull]

If it convinces some people to pick Ice Rain it may just end up increasing prices lol

[pallid grotto]

If everyone picks ice rain price will just explode yes
Demand vs supply

[jagged hull]

I'll probably try blue ice rain some time before I get that box

[pallid grotto]

Then again, stacking purples is a whale thing so in the end i doubt much will change for majority

[brittle junco]

You guys are snakes 😂 u both have something to sell exposed

The price will go down don’t buy guys let the prices go down first

[jagged hull]

No I just barely got my purple char lol

[pallid grotto]

I am mainly a buyer not a seller but sure, we all like to not make 50% minus on what we invested

Common agreement i guess

[jagged hull]

If the prices go down I can stack more purple char, seems like a win to me tbh

[pallid grotto]

I am almost done with my books so why would i care, all i do is lose value based on how market acts

[brittle junco]

So u don’t want the players to have something cheaper than what u got ?

[pallid grotto]

I am happy for everyone who manages to get stuff cheap

[brittle junco]

U don’t want us to have good prices because u didn’t

[pallid grotto]

Inflation is bad for economy

[brittle junco]

Exposed

[pallid grotto]

Man ur so biased by ppl who resell for crazy prices, that is like 0.2% of community

And u think all "whales" are like that

Sure buddy

[jagged hull]

I guess less gems in supply should lead to deflation

[pallid grotto]

Try talking to ppl first before judging

Greedy ppl exist

[brittle junco]

Ok then we should all support the price drop and not buy anything from the market for now

Greedy ppl will lose alot of gold with time

[distant inlet]

Waw, Thank you for explaining that vital information.
I nearly bought a 40k ice rain

[jagged hull]

Invest now 📈

[brittle junco]

No don’t buy

Bdx for real ? 😂

Anyway
My theory says look at the blue books
What happened ? Every one start stacking his main skill 2 but suddenly all books prices down
Same will happen to the purple
Every price will go down

More and more purple selection will come soon no buy
U know what im saving for gear from now on no more books it will come alone for free

Support the price drop of purple books be a man/ woman and don’t buy 🤝🏻🌹

[wicked citrus]

Its almost as if purple skill books are rarer than blue

And if I had to guess, 80-90% of the playerbase still doesn’t have a purple book for their main skills

But blues are so easy to come by especially with transmuting the green fragments bc you get them from every purple dungeon

Purples wont drop for a while

[brittle junco]

Will drop bro steam is coming ppl will switch dead server free purple selection every pass

[distant inlet]

yes everybody go steam, steam neo best neo

[brittle junco]

Only dump free player will buy purple on the markets from now on

Let the wheals buy from themselves

We take the free selector from the pass or buy for cheap

The prices will go down ez

[frank canopy]

WTS PVP bracelet

[ocean forge]

250?

[frank canopy]

200 ?

[ocean forge]

400 ?

[frank canopy]

[ocean forge]

no deal

[ocean forge]

comedian right here

[pallid grotto]

Purple with high base stats enough for pvp

Few ap won't change anything

[frank canopy]

this was meant as a joke in reference to some previous msg

[pallid grotto]

Man ppl still dun see higher levels of sarcasm

[harsh nymph]

Dat was a week ago, dat was my error, and brace had max def stat and cdef. so, ur humor kinda bad btw

[wicked citrus]

LOL get him

Unfortunately whales are gonna keep buying purples for how much they are bc they need to stack purple skills

Legendaries wont be easily accessible for a long time, if ever

So the next best thing is to stack all purples

[sharp grotto]

next best thing is uninstalling this game

[north lion]

Show me the equipment of the strongest mage in the EU

[surreal nymph]

Well rather than go live

[late coral]

@pallid grotto I mean he is in the chat 😂

[surreal nymph]

Accurate ^

[sharp grotto]

its help

not tsk

[late coral]

Ohh help is on eu??I thought he was NA

[surreal nymph]

hehe he is in eu yes

[graceful hawk]

Wait we can't put the event outfit in the showroom wtf

Nice game lmao

[pallid grotto]

Yue wins for now

I let him win so we don't both lose

Bitchfight bidding rarely end well..

[jagged hull]

You can both claim one server each

Until the merge

[tame mauve]

just got red heat and short fuse purples from lvl 50 and bp is this a big oof ?

like complete unusable skills

[tawny siren]

both trash sadly

[tame mauve]

man this is so tilting

after all the time spent on that char

[tame mauve]

also is red heat worse than green blazing palm ?

[north lion]

ty
Since I play on a Japanese server, I'm unable to check the equipment of EU players.

[acoustic sapphire]

Fms which build did you pick and why? I played BNS live back in the day and most did Beam build. Very interested to see what most of you are playing. Hope you are all enjoying the game.

[knotty torrent]

I like beam cause its what I played back in live. Ice rain doesnt interest me, but dragonchar does, if I can ever get the books for it that is

[median sonnet]

same

started with beam cause thats what I played in live, and now i swapped to char

and its pretty fun

[wicked citrus]

Ice Rain for me because when I got lucky with a blue book chest and got blue ice rain, tried it and loved it, learned that it didn't have any focus issues, so i continue to play it

idk if BB or Char have focus issues, but i just stayed with ice rain bc it felt comfortable to play and easy to maintain uptime

[remote pond]

Anyone have a ice rain pie chart?

[wicked citrus]

one second

this is what mine looks like

[late coral]

WTS PURPLE ICE RAIN,PURPLE BLAZING PALM,PURPLE FORCE BLAST EU

[surreal nymph]

100 divine

[median sonnet]

.

[light robin]

Hi, I have Ice build pinned, all with blue books but 1 purple ice rain... with the next purple selector in BP what book should I'll take? Another Ice rain or change some other blue skill to purple?

[harsh nymph]

ice rain ofc

[wicked citrus]

100% pick Ice Rain

assuming you want to stay ice rain. Buy all the other purple books

[light robin]

Ok, ty guys 🙂

[acoustic sapphire]

Does anyone else have the too many good options on the menu problem? I have enjoyed each build but obviously you can only play one.

Back in Live you could run ice rain at 24 😂

[knotty torrent]

The good old days

[acoustic sapphire]

right

[brittle junco]

Who is selling Blazing Palm ? Dm me please

[wise umbra]

Hey guys, i heaed someone say, that in neo KR they have individual ember stack, like live was, its true?

[brittle junco]

What individual mean xD

[wise umbra]

Your stacks is only yours, like was in live, only i can detonate them

[tame mauve]

Hey fms , so on my fm alt i crafted icerain and cold snap , is it ever worth getting the other 2 mandatory books+trying for mystic badge or just stick to my current beam build

[brittle junco]

How much is your ms ?

[brittle junco]

That will be nice

[fickle glen]

it was on live

[brittle junco]

i still remember that one guy on bns libe keep doing impact on 3 ember stacks because he have bad macro 8 years ago

[acoustic sapphire]

omg I remember that reeee

[tame mauve]

around 45 50

also just got virt rain soul badge and moonwater mystic badge

whats better btw snowball or massive snowball to get

[rough crow]

Massive

[tame mauve]

is it normal for it to be for 2k ?

whats the actual pricing for it

[rough crow]

Eu or na?

[tame mauve]

eu

[rough crow]

No idea on eu market

[brittle junco]

Yes 2k is the normal price i sow it once 1.5k but 2k is good price

[tame mauve]

not clickbait trust me bro

btw blue not purple 😄

[brittle junco]

Then switch ice rain is 10time better than bb but u need macro

Blue what ?

[tame mauve]

blue massive sb

[brittle junco]

200 you mean

[tame mauve]

2k:D

[brittle junco]

Its scam then xD its for 200 only

2k is for the purple

[tame mauve]

yea now some ppl are posting for 500

but nah

ill wait till it goes down

[brittle junco]

Yeah 🤝🏻

[tame mauve]

also is dual dragon a good blue to get right ?

[brittle junco]

Yes mine is blue as well

[tame mauve]

guess i might stack green dds since i cant stack rains rn

[brittle junco]

Not worth stacking green get utility skills better

[tame mauve]

like ?

[brittle junco]

Vail grap

[tame mauve]

other than sheath veil kd meteor ?

[brittle junco]

Did u switch the build or not yet ?

[tame mauve]

not yet

since i didnt get snowball yet

and its a must

[brittle junco]

Play normal bb then xD

Yeah its must

You can stack i fact there is alot of slot and alot of un usable skills

Forget what i said go stack that dull xD

[tame mauve]

wdym after getting the other skills on my storage 😦

also which grab's the best version

[jagged hull]

I wouldnt bother adding a book for grab

You can add the kd on z (skyburn)

Just be aware that it airs if the target is already cced (for now)

It gets dropped by most endgame fms, but still somewhat useful to get used to it

[tame mauve]

yea thats what im running now with the beam build

[brittle junco]

Grap i use for the 6v6 the one that max range and longer time holding the target I don’t know the skill name

But nvm stack what u want 😬

[brittle junco]

Bb purple price 15k nice the purple books prices is going lower now

19k char

And who is listing Blazing Palm for 15k ??? I ofer 10k act fast before i change my mind

[jagged hull]

People wont want to join you with purple palm

[sullen sparrow]

FM players are the only class going against each other such civil war

[jagged hull]

Somehow had a BM leave too

[harsh nymph]

2-3 days ago, saw bb for 10-11k at f5

And dch for 12

[brittle junco]

I need to keep an eye on the market i hope if i can check from the mobile

[brittle junco]

That is an issue but is purple palm worth the hate ?

[jagged hull]

May be kinda small if youre ice fm alone

Char is the best at generating embers and I think its somewhere around +10-12% for char

You get a decent dps boost for every other fire fm

[jagged hull]

The hate is irrelevant

[harsh nymph]

Do u know who selling it?

[jagged hull]

If people want to look stupid complaining about it then who am I to stop them lol

[empty viper]

WTB purple force blast eu

[frank canopy]

Who ever is selling this

Idk

25k

Have some decency

Some hexwood necklaces were cheaper

[harsh nymph]

One genius

[harsh nymph]

Yeah, u get dps boost like +1 purpl rain for half cost of rain

[slow magnet]

The destroyer hexwood with 2 skill slots and 0 mantra slots doesn't count

[pallid grotto]

nah fm had 2-3 hexwood necks on market, they sold for around 25-30k max

[slow magnet]

One sold for 40

This one

[pallid grotto]

oh ok, good2know

[sharp grotto]

But thats NA

[sharp grotto]

I have same as this i sold for 20k on eu

[harsh nymph]

I am crying

72gm ice rain 15k dps

[sharp grotto]

400ping

[pallid grotto]

lacking 2 crucial skill books for rota and wrong badge..

[median sonnet]

what in tarnation

[jagged hull]

Someone's getting ready for legendary ice rain

[pastel hazel]

WTB Virtuous Mystic Badge Ice fm eu

[radiant dagger]

wish i can his ice rain

[frank canopy]

He said he lags too much with 120 ping so he just plays no boost

Like he loses dps when pressing 1 XZ

[radiant dagger]

wtb all his Ice rain

[frank canopy]

Idk ask him

He might go for leggy ice since he does not use boost

[radiant dagger]

he might been not useful with that pin

ping

even leg ice rain

if someone have one leg ice rain, and full purple ice rain

he may hit 70k on Hae Mujin

90k on dummy i guess

[frank canopy]

Yeah this spell is so broken, 3.3 to 4.5 ap scaling + no boost required + focus cost basically is -1 is you crit both rain and R

[harsh nymph]

Already got 4 purpl 1k books for 4 try leg boxes:)

[radiant dagger]

WTB Leg ice rain

[pallid grotto]

No

U get dragonchar
Leave us ice rain

[radiant dagger]

dragonchar too trash

[pallid grotto]

Speed not even faster on leg?

[radiant dagger]

neh

only first 2 hit

[pallid grotto]

If anyone gets leg ice rain dun sell to yue

[radiant dagger]

[pallid grotto]

We dun need to create the absolute monster

[radiant dagger]

i will carry you in laby

dont worry

[pallid grotto]

[harsh nymph]

Carry me pls:)

[median sonnet]

wait yue got leggy char?

[pallid grotto]

read again

[pallid grotto]

i am officially banned from bgs @ocean forge

just happened 2x

my lobby is char selection

[ocean forge]

deserved for playing rain tbh

😔

[pallid grotto]

gonna get penalty for getting yeeted out

[ocean forge]

you should play chi bomb and wicked dragons

its actually super good in bg

[radiant dagger]

[fickle glen]

21 ap surely better than 165 cdmg right

[ocean forge]

AP always better bro

[fickle glen]

alright

I wanted ap anyway cuz my f2 looks cursed tbh just wanted a motivation

lmao

[brittle junco]

Who is selling purple blazing palm? Make it 10k i will buy it, im broke it’s all my life time saving make a f2p player happy for once 😭

[rough crow]

Whoever is selling the Purple Ice Rain in f5 NA dm me

[median sonnet]

.

[balmy moth]

WTS NA

[tame mauve]

on ice rain is it worth to spam rain on the 8sec buff ?

or just 2tr it always

[wicked citrus]

I just do 2rt always

But im not sure if spamming 2 is better or not so play around witg it

[tame mauve]

and btw how much delay do u put between each 2rt

[wicked citrus]

I don’t put any delay

1ms

[tame mauve]

m not talkin between 2 and r and t

i mean between a whole 2rt and the next whole 2rt

or is that 1ms aswell

[wicked citrus]

I don’t put any delay

[tame mauve]

oh thanks

ig it doesnt work like hybrid bm

[wicked citrus]

When I tried putting a delay between anything it messed up me casting my 1 z and x

[tame mauve]

where if you put 1ms some hits will override others

[wicked citrus]

As long as you see your lmb and rmb gcd rolling 24/7 you know they’re going out

[tame mauve]

also is blue fiend usable ? m not stacked on rains yet

[wicked citrus]

Not for ice

You use it once at the beginning of a fight and never again bc you wanna be using your ice X

I have my fire x locked

I actually have all my fire spells locked minus lmb

[tame mauve]

this is my current

ill be stacking some dual dragon till i get rains

if i can

[wicked citrus]

Dont stack DD

Prioritize stacking ice rains only

My build is
12 ice rains
1 blazing palm
1 frost palm
1 cold snap
1 force blast
1 massive snowball
1 DD

[tame mauve]

well its an alt so i cant really stack much rains now

i buy when cheap

otherwise im rocking with this now

[wicked citrus]

What im saying is, dont waste gems on stacking useless skills, just save for ice rains stacks

DD doesnt get used enough to be effective on increasing your dps

[tame mauve]

ah yea i meant green dds

not blue

[wicked citrus]

It doesnt matter

[tame mauve]

oh

[wicked citrus]

If you wanna stack a skill with greens

I guess go blazing palm in the meantime

[tame mauve]

and guess what 2 purples i got with lvl 50 and bp

[wicked citrus]

But honestly, its not gonna do much

[tame mauve]

red heat and short fuse

😄

[wicked citrus]

Lol

[tame mauve]

litterally

worse than green palm and balefire

red heat gave me slight hope at first when i read it

[wicked citrus]

The issue with ice is that its an all or nothing build, you gotta lock in to build it bc it requires skills never touched by the fire builds

[tame mauve]

i was like its less dmg but guarantees 2 focus regens instead of relying on crit

but it mislead me

and prime target isnt counted on the "extra focus regen" passive

[wicked citrus]

Char and BB share every skill for the most part, but Ice is its own build

[tame mauve]

nah man the 2 skills i mentioned

are unusuable in every scenario and every build

even if ncsoft gives us a 4th build

[wicked citrus]

Like I said, my Fire Z X C V are all locked bc it messes with my massive snowball and cold snap

[tame mauve]

they'll still be unusuable

[wicked citrus]

Im not talking about your purple skills

Im talking about your current build and if you wanna stay ice

[tame mauve]

yeayea

[wicked citrus]

Red heat and short fuse are bad unfortunately

[tame mauve]

im just kinda salty

[jagged hull]

I also got a bound short fuse lol

[tame mauve]

bro never before i have seen

a purple book

worse than green

??????

[jagged hull]

Yeah it was my first 🤣

[wicked citrus]

I got Frost Fury, Fiend Fire and Body Double

[jagged hull]

Short fuse, cold snap and inferno

[tame mauve]

those are still usuable till u get rains to cover them no ?

[wicked citrus]

No

Only body double

The other two are useless for ice

[tame mauve]

u can use fiend fire and dont lock it just be extra careful on snowball

[wicked citrus]

Fiend Fire is a great purple for fire builds

No

Thats so bad

[tame mauve]

isnt its dmg worth pausing for 0.5 second , click frost palm and use snowball everytime its up ?

[wicked citrus]

Ice has no way of instant casting fiend fire

No

When i could just be boosting ice rains

[jagged hull]

Isnt it like 2.5s

[tame mauve]

or lets say u have moonwater mystic

u have already 2 sec out of stuff

[wicked citrus]

Boosting Ice Rain will alwyas win

[tame mauve]

yea but just as a starter burst ability

[wicked citrus]

Its ok for the very first attack of the fight

After that? Useless

[tame mauve]

ig then its kinda D/C tier then

well atleast its not short fuse tier

[wicked citrus]

Fiend Fire is great for fire builds, ass for Ice

Honestly the only thing Ice should be aiming for is

12 ice rains
1 blazing palm
1 frost palm
1 cold snap
1 force blast
1 massive snowball
1 DD

Until you get Legendary Ice Rain

You could cut Dual Dragons for amother Ice Rain if you wanted

[tame mauve]

12 rains ? ive seen all ppl ik put 11

idk which skill they put instead of 12 tho

[jagged hull]

Frost sheath probably

[wicked citrus]

Some do Body Double, sheath, or divine veil

But all not necessary

[tame mauve]

oh wait i dont see neither veil nor sheath

well if you dont wanna pvp yea

[wicked citrus]

I have another accessory I use that has

Skyburn
Divine veil
Sheath

And I slot that when needed

[jagged hull]

Veil and sheath for poha and chef

[tame mauve]

veil is broken in pvp

[wicked citrus]

Some ice fms use balefire

I dont know why but they do

Well I’ve seen Ice Fms with blue palms using balefire

That isnt needed

If you have green frost palm, balefire is helpful

[tame mauve]

i still have some time when im 0 focus still

so balefire help there

locked both Fs other than DD

[wicked citrus]

Ya

It could be your crit too

Blazing palm recovers focus on crits

So if youre not critting as much, you dont get much focus regen

[tame mauve]

yea i was about to type that

[wicked citrus]

Balefire is ok to use when you’re starting ice

[tame mauve]

bout to say that ppl use balefire especially if they dont crit enough

[wicked citrus]

But when you start losing focus issues, replace it

[tame mauve]

idk whats the aim on cr for generally not having issues

[pallid grotto]

Correct

[wicked citrus]

Im not sure but my crit rate on dummy is like 70%

[pallid grotto]

I like

[tame mauve]

3.5k ?

maybe even close to 4k

[wicked citrus]

For context

I have 4.2k crit atm

[tame mauve]

ok thats some cr

btw do u ever F windstorm ?

[wicked citrus]

Never

Useless for every fm

[tame mauve]

lock it then

[wicked citrus]

Yes

[tame mauve]

gotcha

thanks for helping me so far and being patient with everything really appreciate it ^^

[wicked citrus]

Of course!!!

[tame mauve]

how good are those numbers atm ?

[harsh nymph]

For your gear - good

Eh he

Look at Sayurii or Yennefer. Its your future build

[median sonnet]

bro balefire is such a sht skill

says it gives focus regen for 10 seconds

but it only gives it for 8

[jagged hull]

🤔

[median sonnet]

the last 2 seconds of balefire doesnt give focus anymore

you only get 8 hits of +2 focus

from it

[jagged hull]

Literally scammed

[fleet wolf]

Bruh.

[median sonnet]

yes

[jagged hull]

Need more focus, not less 😔

[median sonnet]

adhd ass skil

[fleet wolf]

wym, ur Blue Bale only giving u 8s? use a timer

[median sonnet]

urs too

also dont need a timer, the skill has a timer with a little icon on the boss...

[jagged hull]

Is that what that timer is for

[median sonnet]

the time doesnt even matter, the point is its only 16 focus

i can see it on my focus bar

and my character shows +2 focus only 8 times

[fleet wolf]

says on hit, so +18 focus, which is exactly what I'm getting

[median sonnet]

wdym by says on hit

yes the balefire has to hit

also if you are getting 18, you prolly have a focus mantra on

[fleet wolf]

ok I suppose that's fair, will test more

Have you tried purple Bale?

[median sonnet]

no but a friend did

same sht

[harsh nymph]

You dont need bale at frost FM when u got blue snowball and virt myst badge

You have enough focus from Dual Dragons and frost F

[ocean forge]

thats so true Harlequin

[harsh nymph]

So, your build = 2x palms, mSnowball, Force blast, Cold snap and full Ice rains

Done

Nothing more

No bale, no dual dragons, no frostsheet and C

Just build buttons

[ocean forge]

yeah same for beam build

just build buttons

[median sonnet]

must be nice

[pallid grotto]

Yep

People finally get it

😄

[radiant dagger]

my leg ice rain when

Tsk said he will gamble one and selling to me

[harsh nymph]

What price do you want to pay for it?

[pallid grotto]

I will gamble one and sell u for 1mil divines

There are ppl willing to pay 300k around
So that will be the starting bid

[radiant dagger]

😂

[median sonnet]

motherfker who

[fleet wolf]

Everyone Lab ready yet?

[median sonnet]

im curious if our greatest whales

will be able to clear it on release

[pallid grotto]

the lv58 one? doubt

not cause lack of gear
but lv diff -% critrate and higher base def + accu lack

[median sonnet]

yea im doubtfull to tbh

ye

[pallid grotto]

prob needs 56 or maybe even 57

then yes, defo clearing

[median sonnet]

sht is 3 lvls higher

we never had content like that in neo before

[harsh nymph]

Only 1% of ppls close this content

When, after 2 update we get 6ppl from 4 update

[unkempt horizon]

Its 4 man this update. Confirmed by JP patch notes

[fleet wolf]

Them need to change the shi to scale based on party size, instead of forcing 4 / 6man

[harsh nymph]

Read my message again pls

Now we get 4ppls, after 2 updates we will get 6ppls update

[unkempt horizon]

I did, but the way you phrased it was incredibly confusing

[harsh nymph]

I am a little bit stupid btw

English isnt my native language, so

[copper meadow]

how do you keep the burn on dragonchar build? i see people without skillbook on 1.

[fleet wolf]

Well you can’t reliably, if theres more than 1 purp LMB on the team

If communicated well, you only need 2 FM with Bale to have full uptime, but then it can miss

Dual Dragon + 1 will give you burn, but can’t be done reliably due to server lag/ delays

[copper meadow]

but i see people without skillbook on 1. so they just use bale for burn?

[fleet wolf]

1 or Bale no other source atm, there’s added purple Z for burn if we get KR updated skills

[copper meadow]

thanks. thats what i want to confirm

[wise umbra]

Kr already got individual ember stacks?

[lyric stump]

[kind pelican]

WTB EU

[wicked citrus]

😭

As someone said to use frost F (dragonfrost), do not use this skill ever

[harsh nymph]

Why?

[fleet wolf]

Porbly cuz bad

[uncut wigeon]

WTS NA

[uncut wigeon]

you can trade the outfit

but you need the buyer to tell u the race of outfit first

hence selling the ticket 🙂

[balmy moth]

WTS NA

[rough crow]

WTB Purple Ice Rain NA dm me

[slow axle]

any sugestion for ice fm macro ?

[tame mauve]

2rt is the minimum one , there is a chance to incorporate W X 1 to it aswell

and if you try to use wx1 u have to input it before 2rt so its like wx12rt

cuz t ie blazing palm wont let u use wx

[wicked citrus]

Dragonfrost does very low damage and you won’t run out of focus with it locked

[sudden flint]

[NA] WTB purple dual dragons 3.5k put it up and it will be bought my guy

[harsh nymph]

2rt - macro. zx1 by hands

[harsh nymph]

If you won`t run out of focus without dragonfrost, u does something wrong:)

Only dual dragons not enough for focus recovery

You dont want damage from dragonfrost, u want +5 free focus every 15secs

[distant inlet]

Just crit more 🙃

[pallid grotto]

lemme show u 55% crit at 5k base crit :) fm is special

[radiant dagger]

cant been more poor

[pallid grotto]

Gambling addict

Gimme some mantras..

[signal linden]

which do u guys prefer dragon char and ice rain

I want to change from beam

[brittle junco]

Ice rain 🌧️

[surreal nymph]

^

[brittle junco]

Pm me

[ocean forge]

are you f2p?

[radiant dagger]

yes

f2p

[brittle junco]

No he is the most not f2p in the game

[distant inlet]

Help is giga f2p

Stop slander

[brittle junco]

I want to buyyyyyyy

[ocean forge]

how do you know?

[brittle junco]

I don’t know

Sell meeee

[pallid grotto]

Which f2p doesn't burn 10k per week on purple mantra attempts for 2 months?

Average player

[distant inlet]

[wicked citrus]

Um, no because I am doing way more damage than with dragonfrost

So no I’m not doing anything wrong

Blazing palm crits are enough to keep your focus up for the boosted burst

Dragonfrost is unnecessary, there’s a reason majority of FMs lock it

[harsh nymph]

WTS EU

[jagged hull]

Any dual dragon badge enjoyers

[wise umbra]

3ms to around 15-20ms, make a big diff in dps in ice rain?

[brittle junco]

What happened if 2 fm in the party that both have purple palm ?

Who broke the 5th hit take the dmg ?

Or what ?

[jagged hull]

yeah the last

[wicked citrus]

Ya

Whoever just got to it first

[brittle junco]

So it’s 50% 50% so no complains

[brittle junco]

The purple palm curse start

But why a blade master even care about that

[jagged hull]

Was their a FM with them that also left

oh you just applied

[brittle junco]

Yeah I didn’t join his party yet

[jagged hull]

Yeah I had both of them leave someone else their cs daily

Then they recruited for themself

Seems like a big waste of time

[brittle junco]

Yeah they need to solve this issue

Palm need to be fixed

[sleek musk]

Ppl need to stop having a skill issue

[brittle junco]

I did play with 2 bb yes i nerf them abit but i did all the dmg they lost, every palm hit is 13k which is alooootttt so the party itself did get dmg post not nerfing them

[fickle glen]

i did warn u about it

[ocean forge]

@pallid grotto Char?

or are you freeing yourself?

[pallid grotto]

Freeeeee
Gacha funds

[ocean forge]

🫡

maybe we meet again in 5 years

[harsh nymph]

@pallid grotto hmmm? U r done?

[fickle glen]

i mean

that hardcore mode

bns

is near!

not 5 year!

[jagged hull]

Youll be back when they add SF right

[ocean forge]

if*

Prime tsuki was FM tsuki tbh 😔

[pallid grotto]

wl into fm into sf....
i feel old

[sharp grotto]

hop on live bro

[harsh nymph]

So, u r done?

[sharp grotto]

[pallid grotto]

quick cashout today..

[ocean forge]

?XD?D

[harsh nymph]

Nice

[fickle glen]

eh

[harsh nymph]

Rip

[fickle glen]

alot of ppl

did some funny card tricks

so there is alot of money in game rn

[harsh nymph]

Rains migrate from whales to whales:

[harsh nymph]

All on gambling?

[pallid grotto]

no books around to gamble even

certain ppl buy them all on eu market

[fickle glen]

start from blues

no balls

[pallid grotto]

i did burn too much blues ngl

[median sonnet]

bro who bought all these rains

[harsh nymph]

I done 2 leg gamba today

1 purple blazing palm

2 don’t know, click and going to walk with dog

Will know after Aprox 40 minute

[sharp grotto]

damn u got way out more than me

prob cz char cheap af

[ocean forge]

9x ice rains for 30k each right?

[sharp grotto]

i sold my chars for only 12k each

[radiant dagger]

I sell on of mine for 15k

[wraith tundra]

[radiant dagger]

Kappa

Wtb leg ice rain

@pallid grotto now you can go gamble

[wraith tundra]

Who will buy your chars when u go ice rain

[radiant dagger]

Got leg ice rain and sell me

Idk

I don't even care

Gone sell on market

1 each day

[wraith tundra]

and gamba leg 1 time each day too?

[radiant dagger]

Make sense

Too expensive

[median sonnet]

ah yes

the pinnacle of human technology and science

legendary ice rain

[fickle glen]

ok but

what about the awakened legendary skills in silverfrost

[jagged hull]

Are those the party skills

[harsh nymph]

purple blinding blaze

From leg try

[jagged hull]

Oof

[fleet wolf]

The least golden attempt I know is like 3 click Lego

[median sonnet]

disgusting

[harsh nymph]

Already done 6 clicks

[fleet wolf]

It’s 3 click or 30 clicks bro, deadge game

[sharp grotto]

noush did 20 clicks before he quit due to no lego is what i heard

so u still have some to go

[harsh nymph]

Yea:)

[wicked citrus]

no people just need to get good or understand that it's a net gain

[harsh nymph]

1 more try later and i give up

[pallid grotto]

Now i got the funds to bid on leg

[radiant dagger]

Who was r1 today?

On fly

Today

[lyric stump]

ouch that hurt seeing it

[dusty tapir]

is there any build guide for burn fm guys ?

[median sonnet]

@plucky sphinx yes i am sure

they do no damage, and you dont need the focus

[plucky sphinx]

oh thanks

[pallid grotto]

doing more dmg than ice

credits server hickups

[slender trellis]

[pallid grotto]

here some fun statistics about bb (based off my gear) - training dummy/baylee values:
8k non crit non burn
18k crit non burn low roll
21k crit non burn high roll
18k non crit burn
44-45.5k crit burn low roll (60-70% of hits avg)
47-48k crit burn high roll

bsh dungs i lose about 10-15k single hit dmg due to defenses or w/e that is supposed to be aka 25-35% on main sustain dps skill

comparing with ice, from 22k hits down to 15k hits on crit in bsh, similar loss here, using purple palm & wall dps should be somewhat equal, ice usually bit better as it's less suffering from non crits (7-8k, like half dmg, bb loses up to 70% dps with non crit)

[slender trellis]

[pallid grotto]

[slender trellis]

WTS purple ice rain 33k @pallid grotto

[pallid grotto]

kamehameyameyama big fan

buy mine

[slender trellis]

?

[slow magnet]

The critical damage to non critical damage ratio of beam and ice rain is the same

[pallid grotto]

it should be, doesn't feel like it tho

matter of fact in dungs i do less dmg than ice on wb i do 5-6k more (free embers)
and critrates go down hard sometimes, just rng fun

[slow magnet]

Are you eu?

[pallid grotto]

yes

[slow magnet]

What does that guys mantras look like

[pallid grotto]

5.6% of crit mantra rest basicly cdmg, 5k base crit
getting 55-60% max crit rates 😄

[radiant dagger]

[pallid grotto]

baylee sometimes 65

[radiant dagger]

Too sad

[pallid grotto]

idk why i'm cursed

yue is cheating with crits idk

[slender trellis]

Skill issue

Trust

[median sonnet]

huh, i meant dragonblaze and dragonfrost

cuz the guy asked in the other thread, and i cba talkin with 2 min delay

[slow magnet]

I got these wish I had more of the crit % ones instead of crit damage but attempting to re-roll would be nuts lol

[jagged hull]

Wow

[slow magnet]

the one two mantra where i slotted them in on the opposite order

drives me absolutely crazy

every time i see it

[jagged hull]

How dare you

[slow magnet]

i try not to look at it

[radiant dagger]

Wow

But

[slow magnet]

i got hella lucky

the only one of those i re-rolled was the focus one

[radiant dagger]

[slow magnet]

which used to be additional damage

[radiant dagger]

But

[slow magnet]

it rerolled into threat

then CC reduction

then focus

[radiant dagger]

Didn't have 12%

[slow magnet]

then i was like

screw this

im stopping

[slow magnet]

i would go for that if i had all 3 mantra accessories

but i have to use legendary mantra + purple because i have 2 slot mantra accessories

[pallid grotto]

lucky....

i can burn 45 attempts without seeing either crit or cdmg

😄

yes, 135 stones.

[wicked citrus]

one day we'll all be like Lethe

[jagged hull]

Thats why its better to fail the 2 slot onces 😏

[wicked citrus]

Lethe pls stop buying purple ice rain so it can drop in price

[fleet wolf]

I’m getting 71% Bay Lee w 3.8k Crit, 5k/65% is crazy

[pallid grotto]

scuffed rng

[wise umbra]

soo, with ur tests, ice rain or bb? haha

[slow magnet]

they are 28k now 👀

[pallid grotto]

Ice rain wins but for the amount u invest u can finish bb gear and do better :)

[fleet wolf]

Every whale BB player switched to Char / Ice Rain, that should tell you sumthin

[noble bison]

WTS ice rain build - EU in market

[jagged hull]

Someone's trying to resell that badge for 12k

[kind pelican]

WTB EU

[wicked citrus]

are you still stacking purples? or did you max it out yet

[slow magnet]

I have 3 blues to swap and one will be replaced with a bound from BP

so two of my ice rains will be bound 👀

can never swap specs

LMAO