Force Master

[fervent pond]

Of the dude flaming fire fms for using purple

[fickle glen]

oh u do dual dragon>1 instantly to get burn

then use c to burn

rotate it

ur cooked otherwise

cant do anything about that

[cosmic silo]

yyeah, which means im probably swapping backto frost just out of annoyance

[fickle glen]

its not that bad imo

[crystal idol]

the idea is u cant cast x

[fervent pond]

I tried dchar for a couple days

Main issue for me is focus

[fickle glen]

ye you lose inferno but its overall dps gain for pt

[terse sparrow]

dd>1 gives u instacast why u saying u lose it

[cosmic silo]

then i have to try the dd>1 and hope im fast enough^^

thanks for the tip

[crystal idol]

o.o

[fickle glen]

if you fail that* its still dps gain for overall party

[radiant dagger]

emmm im 4.4k too, idk

[fervent pond]

Do u macro

Also what’s your ping

[radiant dagger]

about 20 to 25

with exitlag

and yeah macro

[fervent pond]

Hmm i’m around 70, don’t know if that’s why

What’s your macro

[radiant dagger]

just ghub

[fervent pond]

I mean like just 2rt?

Or 2r?

[radiant dagger]

both

[fervent pond]

2rt for off balefire?

[radiant dagger]

yeap

[fervent pond]

Hm ok

[sharp grotto]

wts

[radiant dagger]

xD

go for this one pls

[sharp grotto]

i gamble lego after wb

eu prices slowly going to be same as NA

lol

[radiant dagger]

ah

[nocturne canyon]

that joke

[radiant dagger]

xD

[nocturne canyon]

In 1 week he gains 20k

[wicked citrus]

at 35-40 ping do you think ice rain will be ok

or should i go dragonchar at that point

[fickle glen]

its ok

but char looks stronger

[empty viper]

one more 45 now

this is getting dumb

[nocturne canyon]

🤦‍♂️

[fleet wolf]

Lego Ice Rain is hugely better than Leg Char.

[fickle glen]

good luck getting lego ice rain

[odd wraith]

^

[fickle glen]

like its not something 99% of people will have access to

why would you put it as benchmark

[odd wraith]

let me fix that for you

99.99%

[fleet wolf]

Maybe we will get there right before server shut

[pallid grotto]

WTB purple frost tornado EU (gimme that hp potion)

can we stop inflating prices for no reason

[fickle glen]

its low iq litmus at this point

[fickle glen]

get lovers set bro

more beam slot

🤝

[fickle glen]

where results 🙏

o nvm live

only 1 try

😔

just hit it ✍️

he will never recover from this

[tranquil prawn]

He won

[terse fiber]

What did he get?

[sharp grotto]

nothing

dissapointment

[fickle glen]

well 5 fragments atleast!

[terse fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/perdemo-gif-26062590

[fickle glen]

anyone know how much this worth 🤔

[radiant dagger]

1,5k

[fickle glen]

😔

[radiant dagger]

then someone will buy for gamble gold book

[pallid grotto]

usually sells around 3-4k

[fickle glen]

tysm

[pallid grotto]

but uhh i also seen some for less than 2k already

[fickle glen]

:dead:

[slow magnet]

Ice dead everyone switched to char

I am the last remaining ice user

[ocean forge]

Nah I'm ice with you

[odd wraith]

now u get 7 purple ice rains for cheap

[ocean forge]

And that's even when I got purple char from pass 🙂

[odd wraith]

u got purple char from pass and ur still ice?

yea ur a bot

inting

[slow magnet]

nobody selling cheap lol ripp

[slow magnet]

why would you do that

[ocean forge]

that sht felt ass to play

[fervent pond]

I went back to ice, char sucks

[inland cargo]

[fervent pond]

Spent a good amt rerolling psyches for crit/critdmg

Still doesn’t feel good

[odd wraith]

idk man

i went from barely being able to do a 33k minute parse to almost being able to do 50k

[tranquil prawn]

Im just crippling at 41-42k consistently at dummy as beam

[odd wraith]

only 41-42k with all the mastery points u have?

[tranquil prawn]

Beam is dogshit

Worst skill out of all 3

Macro for lmb/rmb would prob boost me to 43-44k but that's prob max atm

[slow magnet]

we are the last two remaining ice users

like dinosaurs

[fervent pond]

Dunno ice is just so much easier

Never worry about focus

Just hold macro

[slow magnet]

i think max potential damage output from dragonchar is a decent amount higher though

just higher AP ratios

[tranquil prawn]

At purple for sure

[slow magnet]

zero two leviathan whale he has many purples of everything

/bow

[fervent pond]

Yea it’s ok idrc about wb anymore tbh

Drops are dog

Just spin kaari wheel

[tranquil prawn]

Char is just 10-15% better if played properly

[slow magnet]

Do you have an auto salvage inventory part of macro or do you just empty manually

[fervent pond]

Just feels bad playing dchar if you run out of focus or if boss moves too much

I just empty manually

[pallid grotto]

char has ping benefit, bb doesn't

hardcount

[slow magnet]

did you get bunny twins yet

[tranquil prawn]

Bb is just hardcapped for hits

[slow magnet]

i cant hit

so many tries

[fervent pond]

I got 1 i think

Forgot which one

[uncut wigeon]

What’s the char rotation? Just LB + 2, balefire on cd, dual drag on cd spam?

[fervent pond]

I tried r2 spam with balefire up and rt2 without

[slow magnet]

I just need the other one 😭

[pallid grotto]

may i ask

how many crafts u did with kaari?

or well transmute cards

[slow magnet]

im at 80 on first milage pity

so i think ive done uh

16?

[pallid grotto]

ye 16

[slow magnet]

transmutes

[fervent pond]

16x5 right

[pallid grotto]

how many legs?

[fervent pond]

I’ve only gotten 1 yura but not that many transmutes here

[slow magnet]

3

[fervent pond]

Think i got like 4 cards in 5k

Was unlucky

[pallid grotto]

mhm

80 kaaris
that's around 40k essences?

[slow magnet]

ya takes a long time to spin

then have to vendor the soulshields and weapons

for silver

[pallid grotto]

bro u spinned

56h

😂

[fervent pond]

Just a few nights of rolling np

[pallid grotto]

inventory not an issue?

[slow magnet]

nah my inventory gets full

or i get disconnected randomly

or even banned

[pallid grotto]

free vacation

reason:
spin addict

[fervent pond]

I think my inventory fills in like

1.5 hours lmao

So i don’t really spin overnight

[slow magnet]

do you have max slots?

[fervent pond]

Yeah but i don’t bother putting like my top rows of stuff in storage

I just roll at work

Cause i can check in every now and then to salvage

[slow magnet]

im so down bad for that last bunny card

[fervent pond]

If we get those rng boxes that kr has u go crazy

[slow magnet]

did u play live

[fervent pond]

Yeah

[slow magnet]

the black padded coat box

mistakes

[fervent pond]

Was that more recent

I stopped in like 2019

[slow magnet]

that was the very first rng box ever

[fervent pond]

Oh

Idr haha

[slow magnet]

i just kept going until i hit the costume

took like

1k in ncoin

[fervent pond]

Sheesh

[pallid grotto]

how many essences per inv roughly?

[slow magnet]

2500 ish?

[pallid grotto]

full inv?

[slow magnet]

if you have max inventory slots

[pallid grotto]

i got 2.7k rn

time to roll

[slow magnet]

but it varies because rng

i think its like

12 percent ish for costumes?

and those are the ones that cant stack

[fickle glen]

thats alot of mushins

wanna trade 😭

[slow magnet]

i need bunny twin

harder to get than legendary

[fickle glen]

its cringe how its only on lose

hope they change next patch tbh

its just too hard

[vale musk]

i miss my coat

[slow magnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/bladeandsoul/comments/44t7n8/the_result_of_opening_588_winter_boxes/

[slow magnet]

the CS one just doesnt hit the same

[fervent pond]

Ohh don’t think i rolled this rng box lol

[knotty torrent]

thinking about swapping to ice but I can only afford to get one copy of ice rain, still worth? I have blue beam rn

[fervent pond]

Idk i feel like a lot of ppl don’t like ice bc it’s boring gameplay

Only thing you’re managing is cd

I personally love that

But if you want more engaging gameplay idk if ice is the right move

But my advice is always just play what u like

Try it out, if u don’t like the gameplay, sell it and go back to what u like

But u do have to invest a lil bit like into skills and mystic badges so up to u i guess

[faint stone]

thing is for me is i got purp beam but like i wanna try the other 2 builds. But then needing to sell beam book to then buy and test, if sell can't do content :<

[fervent pond]

You don’t need purple to test

Unless you wanna see the dmg i guess

[faint stone]

i do want to see the dmg potential between the 2

cause i am playing on low ping

so i would wanna play a high hit count build to maximize my ping

[fervent pond]

Well i feel like you’re guaranteed to do more dmg cause both ice and dchar are better than beam at purple

[faint stone]

yeah... thats what i've been told. Im at 15-20ms

[fervent pond]

With ice you won’t run into the purple palm issue either

Conversely other fire fms will hate you xd (if you use purple palm)

But screw the haters

[faint stone]

in wb I am scared of all the purple palm players xd

hide away

but do you run out of focus?

for ice rotation

also game is telling me something

[fickle glen]

game telling you to sell this book to a random whale

because its literally same damage as blue book

only frostbite bonus

[fickle glen]

yes

without cold snap

you do run out

[faint stone]

ah i see thank you :3

[fickle glen]

if you only care about dmg go dragonchar

its better than both of the builds on purple

[fervent pond]

You want cold snap massive snowball force blast

And a good amount of crit

And you won’t run out of focus

[fickle glen]

🤔

you do run out of focus on downtime tho

no?

[fervent pond]

No

You still have dual drag too

[fickle glen]

eh if both lmb and 2 crits

its 0 stable

ye

[fervent pond]

Can also enable dragonfrost if u really struggle that much

[faint stone]

ah i see i'll slowly save up for it then

im able to clear all content atm so save enough to sell my beam and buy everything else

need badge and everything

[wicked citrus]

Yeah which is crazy bc ice rain is still the most expensive of the 3 main skill purples 😭

[distant inlet]

Blue beam so expensive 😦

[light robin]

Hi. FM Ice here. What min stats should I have? I mean... currently I'm lv51 and have 764 AP, 2.8 CR, 1,3 CD, 2,2 PIER and 620 ACC. Currently I don't have primers and I want to use them but I'm not sure what stats should I'll improve. Usually I improve CR and then CD but from what number of CR I should to improve CD or ACC?

[fervent pond]

there are no cd primers

so just put cr

can put acc if you feel like you're missing a lot

[light robin]

no? hahaha then is easy to choose xD

[wraith oar]

Guys which ss sets you use?

[hushed tangle]

I'm at 1100 acc and still missing some shots on winter mane and blood mane

[distant inlet]

profane.

[wraith oar]

Full profane? Why is that if i may ask

[distant inlet]

Because its easy to farm Cr+Cd and the statts go prety high + primer also good (SS1 70cr to SS8 108cr iirc)

Only got 2 good BSH pieces so far, won't switch before 5 set + primed.

[wraith oar]

Thanks for help i was thinking bout brightstone ones thats why i wanted to check with someone

[distant inlet]

They better but they boring to get

Rather farm actual dungeons then that thing

[tribal lodge]

yea at lvl 52 you need 1350 on bloodmane for 100% and for lvl 53 it is 1250

[static coral]

Feeling conflicted

I keep getting blues when transmuting into purple

But it's all blazing beams and ice rains

What kind of twisted luck is this

[fickle glen]

well its literally same money as bad purple so

win ig

[pallid grotto]

Better than blue stun or meele kd

[lyric stump]

bro is complaining about getting ice rains and beams

meanwhile me getting veils and snowballs

[ocean forge]

who is this funny fella?

[fickle glen]

I feel same for this

expired for 2.5k last night

but sure bro 👍

[pallid grotto]

ppl are trying to scam hard

nothing new

[fickle glen]

well I got punished by some divine powers and saw this so I am gonna put this here so you guys get hurt as much as I do too

[median sonnet]

ah yes

blazing beam

the pvp skill

[pallid grotto]

Absolute pvp enhancer

[fickle glen]

are u the one who listed for 25?

[ocean forge]

@sharp grotto you use summoner when doing wb? 🤔

[terse fiber]

Do we have any blue char players here around 800-820 ap?

[pallid grotto]

Cdmg is also a huge factor

[sharp grotto]

no

[ocean forge]

isnt these kinda mega? 🤔

[sharp grotto]

yes

but i cba to chase that

[ocean forge]

yeah true freak that

[lyric stump]

isn't this a fair price? no one is buying it 🤔

third time putting it on market with same price

[pallid grotto]

thing is.. who doesn't have it yet 😅

[fickle glen]

people usually just favorite base version

also

0 is just cheaper

[lyric stump]

they are also around that price with bad stats on it

[pallid grotto]

if there is high supply but barely demand stuff doesn't sell instantly

simple

[lyric stump]

true i guess, not many people switch builds and just stick with the one they had.

[pallid grotto]

ice is the whale spec, doubt many whales left who still need the badge sir

:)

[hollow urchin]

anyone here familiar with dragonchar? I have a few quetsions

what is the char count with blue books? it feels like Im attacking very slow, do I need purple book to make this build work?

also, what would be an example of a macro? currently just doing the traditional RT2 but not sure if this works for char like it did for Beam

[fickle glen]

purple has double attacks peed afaik

[hollow urchin]

oh, so, its not playable until purple huh

[fickle glen]

I wouldnt say its not playable

its just slower

its still cheapest option

so should do more since you can stack

idk if we have any info on blue tierlist tho

[hollow urchin]

would you say this is normal speed? or am I doing somethign wrong?

Im around 60ms

[fleet wolf]

You are able to do 2x LMB & RMB with every Blue Char cast, so might not be that much less if you have Purple Palm

[slow magnet]

Purple char is whale spec

Ice dead

Everyone reroll

[frank canopy]

Btw what’s happening with the cinderlands FM

Why is top 10 so empty

Did everyone get banned or what

[slow magnet]

Probably re rolling to char

[odd wraith]

even that being the case ICE is still more expensive

so hes not wrong

lol

[fleet wolf]

deadass game

[distant inlet]

Wb useless

[frank canopy]

Yeah i guess so

[distant inlet]

I am always hyped for my 5 valorstones

[dire bobcat]

iam doing 1.4 dchar per sec is that good ?

[frank canopy]

Best is 1.6/s but you need kind of low ping and good macro for it

1.4 is acceptable

But you can still get some dps if optimized better

[dire bobcat]

i have 85 to 95 ms

[frank canopy]

Yeah then doing more will prob be hard

Try to look at your palm rates

Too

[fickle glen]

beam gaming it is

[dire bobcat]

i got this from bass book

i hate this skill

i see it like trash skill

i want to salvage it but i feel bad for salvaging my only purple book

[ocean forge]

Imagine if u record it and salvage it

[dire bobcat]

before i open the box i opened my skill tree and i marked dchar and i opened f5 and marked dchar with my mouse pointer many times to let the game know what i need the most but they insist to make me hate the game to give me that beam sh^^t

they acted like
hay do you want dcahr
yes
then take this blazing beam m^^f^^

[distant inlet]

U cant even salvage it

[dire bobcat]

rly ?

whaaaaaaaat

[slow magnet]

Blazing beam at purple is prolly more damage than char at Blue

[pallid grotto]

xD

[idle wolf]

cant wait to get my 3rd bound frost sheath from current event

[pallid grotto]

i got stun, ez

[frank canopy]

Yeah

Blue char is useless

Don't play this

The GCD is so long it's not even worth playing

Just play purple beam for now and try to get a purple char someday

[fleet wolf]

1.6/s + RT spam is impossible without getting disconnected from server.

maybe doable with xml

[frank canopy]

U sure ? Pretty sure Viva was doing it at one point, 1.6 i mean

[fleet wolf]

In dungeon you will get Err 133 server disconnect, outside dungeon you most likely wont get the dc

[frank canopy]

mhhh yeah then it was on dummy

[frank canopy]

WTS EU + Price check

WTS EU

[tranquil prawn]

WTB 4x Blazing Beam EU

[fickle glen]

I have seen some on market for 4k and people posting wtbs for 2

[lyric stump]

I feel you as i got the same skill dropped from battlepass, its actually doing a !shit ton of dmg but sucks no aoe

[dire bobcat]

So you advise me not to change to beam ?

[fickle glen]

hes saying it does good damage but no aoe

[lyric stump]

as i said only annoying part is no aoe everything else good

I was ice rain before doing crit 8k but with beam 20k

and my dps increaed by 5k+

same grand master lvl / crit dmg

but yea you kinda useless if there is multiple enemies stacked

just use DD lol

tbh you don't need to switch other skills for this build, dchar and beam are similar in skills.

[ornate tiger]

WTS if someone is interested max crit dmg roll

[idle wolf]

i dont think accuracy/hp are max rolls :x

[fickle glen]

ye its not

[ornate tiger]

better ?

[lyric stump]

gl selling badges, took me 4 days to sell mine

with good stats and cheap price

[fickle glen]

selling badges isnt hard

you guys just trying to double the price

why would anyone pay 2.5k for this

when you can get the +0 for way cheaper

[lyric stump]

mine

it sold out already but after 4 days of trying

[zenith moss]

please, remind me - how do Beam/Dragonchar/Ice Rain rate in terms of PVE DPS and PVP usefulness?

I am talking at mostly Blue books + 1-3 Purples + a few stacks, not the absolutely theoretical maximum

[vague prairie]

With no-minimal stacking (GM6 or less), they're all basically the same in pve.

Beam sucks in pvp.

[pallid grotto]

Beam fine in pvp if u don't just hold macro

[zenith moss]

I see a person with this (purple) and a lot of these (blue), would that work?

I admit I never really learned the stacking rules...

[frank canopy]

Yeah these are the same spell

Stacking book give you dmg% on that skill

[jagged hull]

Three extra blue books provide the same dmg% increase as one extra purple

That does assume you already have a purple book equipped ofc.

[brittle junco]

Hey, when i use cold snap better hold 2 or left, right, 2 ?

[fickle glen]

2 left right

[cedar tulip]

book stacking % falls off a bit and has less value after 16 counts and 36 counts

let me find screenshot

this

[zenith moss]

can someone paste the points per book ?

[jagged hull]

Isnt it 1-2-6-18

[cedar tulip]

Green 1
Blue 2
Purple 6
Legendary idk

[radiant dagger]

WTS EU

[cedar tulip]

which one of yalls bought the purple blaze palm for 20k and just reposted for 24999

[frank canopy]

crazy work

bought it 8.6k 2 days ago

[graceful hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[fickle glen]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[pallid grotto]

let em do it

inflation for no reason

i bet we got some NA sneakers in EU now that push market prices and try to make profit somehow

[lyric stump]

man I fkin hate purple palm users lol so difficult to play with in the same party

[cedar tulip]

Yeah its really brutal. Duel Dragon -> 1 sometimes doesnt even work.

If I had it myself I would keep burn uptime but sadly I dont

[fickle glen]

its overall dps increase for pt tbh

from what I have seen atleast

[lyric stump]

how much dmg are they getting for exploding the 5 embers?

[terse fiber]

ive tested with blazing wall and it was like 3-4k without crit

[fickle glen]

10ish on bsh2

[cedar tulip]

Depends on stats of user too

[fickle glen]

well 3k cdmg

[terse fiber]

is it related to stats on noncrit?

[fickle glen]

890ap

[cedar tulip]

oh not bad

Is that DPS or just the damage from a Crit

[fickle glen]

crit dmg

[cedar tulip]

prob is just on the Crit

no no the 10k

[fickle glen]

from critical hit

10k

[cedar tulip]

checks out

[severe sparrow]

ive been playing ice (blue-gm 8) for a week or 2, doing 12.5k on CS from what some friends told me, i've usually 50ms, and just discovered that ice needs a lot lower ms to do good dmg, do u think beam would be better for that ping, could i b doing more dmg with the same gm? (refuse char build, dont like it)

[fickle glen]

just play whatever u enjoy

that ping can use both

[severe sparrow]

ok ok, just that im feeling kinda stuck on those 12k smtg dmg and wanted to make sure it was not because of that

thx

[fervent pond]

wouldn't say you need a lot lower ping, i play ice at ~70 and it's fine. you just have higher potential with lower ping but that goes with every class in the game

[severe sparrow]

ok ok thx

[fickle glen]

@sick shale I am spinning wheel ingame pls ask here D:

[brittle junco]

I did try bb today it give me more 2k dmg increase but I didn’t like it ir do less but feels 10time better

[sick shale]

srry

i have 2k divine gem, buy greem skills ?

with the guide?

[brittle junco]

Buy the pass for 2k then sell the gold u get from the pass, so u get back your 2k gem xD

Im noob but i think its a good advice 😂

[fickle glen]

greens are not from f5

you get valor stones

and buy the blues from npc

with it

[sick shale]

is important when i transfer the book ? (gear)

or dont affect

[fickle glen]

I did not understand what you meant 😔

[sick shale]

I mean, does it matter where I merge the books?

Does it affect anything what gear you put on it?

[terse fiber]

It doesnt matter

[sick shale]

or it doesn't matter

okok ty

[terse fiber]

but its best to put your purple/blue skills first into things that you wont change for a while

so you wont need to waste valor stones to take them out

[sick shale]

perfect ty

[unkempt horizon]

Anyone know how much that Legendary Bangle that dropped on Bamboo server WB last night sold for?

[uncut wigeon]

63k iirc

[unkempt horizon]

Wtf that's cheap as hell. I was gonna bid 100k, and thought I wouldn't win.

[fickle glen]

issue is levelling it

if you cant awaken

it will be worse next patch

[unkempt horizon]

Thats not really an issue. I should just upgrade my Siren Bangle though. It's basically perfect

[fickle glen]

depends on how much your server pays I guess

you need 40 to upgrade iirc?

eu doesnt get drops so its pain to upgrade

and it will be even worse if they release true version next patch

[unkempt horizon]

Outfits usually go for around 60k

[fickle glen]

outfits gives 5

weapons gives 10

eh na has 3 servers might be easier

but eu is 💀

moonwater got like 3-4 drop total

[distant inlet]

Eu got alot of drops alrrdy

In the last week alone I've counted 10 drops for Cinderlands.
Since they're region wide Moonwater can just buy them

[fickle glen]

its less drop chance overall since na has 3 servers

also no there wasnt 10 drops lol

[distant inlet]

They dont even do WB on their 3rd server

It despawns before it dies

Their 2nd server alrddy takes like 30 mins

[distant inlet]

Dragon outfit, Longuini Outfit, The Meganura Adornment and a Sword. Thats only the last 3 days.

[radiant dagger]

Xc

[distant inlet]

I dont mind hyperbolering but saying Moonwater only got 3-4 drops in total so far is just ridiculous

And Noush stopped buying stuff so go ahead and shop

[fickle glen]

Sword? When did we got sword?

[distant inlet]

Somewhere this week, I dont remember the exact boss. I was wiping hrs at Mujin and joked around "Hey If i had that surely we could kill it"

[tranquil prawn]

Buff dragonchar

[radiant dagger]

Ah

No need

Will reroll ice

If someone giv me gold ice rain

I will sell all mine dragonchar

[tranquil prawn]

Gl gambling mate. I Already failed 3 times

[radiant dagger]

0 so far

I just wait someone selling

Xdd

I don't like gambling

[tranquil prawn]

At some point it will happen

[radiant dagger]

Or just wait

Wb drop maybe

[tranquil prawn]

Whale battle with noush for legy rain

[fickle glen]

I wonder if thats class specific drop or just for the buyer

[radiant dagger]

But emmmm idk. I saw most fm doing streaming. But do wrong rational

Maybe just me .

[tacit violet]

WTB DRAGONCHAR NA

[radiant dagger]

😔

Too boring. Missed live already

[distant inlet]

Why u want ice? 😉

Bored of char?

[fickle glen]

yellow ice is boosted

[radiant dagger]

Emmm. Yeah I go ice only if I got

Gold ice rain

But that gone cost alot

So yeah maybe not. Don't even know how long I will keep play this game

[distant inlet]

Gold char also boosted no? ❤️‍🔥

[radiant dagger]

Neh. .

I dont think so

[tranquil prawn]

You can make your weapon to awak first

[radiant dagger]

Also true

Maybe. But for what

[tranquil prawn]

To waste Money and quit the game afterwards

[radiant dagger]

Xdd

[fervent pond]

it was 167k

[tranquil prawn]

Only option it to lose money on this game

And that's what we like

[tacit violet]

WTB DRAGONCHAR NA

[radiant dagger]

Already feels that game will dead soon

So idk.

[tranquil prawn]

Ye 100%

[sharp grotto]

its ok bro im saving the game

[tranquil prawn]

Still want to see next patch though tbf

Nellan stfu

[sharp grotto]

hahahaha

[radiant dagger]

I only play for 4week until now

I guess

Already too boring 😴

Missed live

Missed mine cm team

[sharp grotto]

im playing live rn

[radiant dagger]

That way more fun

[sharp grotto]

[tranquil prawn]

Can watch nellan for live gameplay at how to not do it

[sharp grotto]

exactly

how to not play astromancer

[radiant dagger]

Ah . Trash class

Missed my soul fight

[fickle glen]

star spec looks cool

but yes

sf on neo when

🙏

[sharp grotto]

i like astro so far

[radiant dagger]

No idea. Maybe next year

But yeah

Maybe next year. If game still alive

The will have sf on neo

Than warden ?

Gunner

[sharp grotto]

no

next class we get is new

unique class

to neo

[radiant dagger]

Ah

[sharp grotto]

i say spearclass

[fickle glen]

spearmaster

one day

🙏

[sharp grotto]

yes

i think that will be new class

[uncut wigeon]

guide? 😛

[fallow abyss]

@tranquil scaffold @lunar blaze gayboys

[hushed tangle]

Anyone know why some skills are lit up even though I don't have the book and I'm not using that skill?

[vague prairie]

@zenith moss no just ask here

[odd wraith]

anyone know how good or bad the focus recovery mantras are?

no chance i just slotted 3 items with purple mantras and they all rolled focus

idk how to feel

[vague prairie]

8 sec ICD, they're ok but not reliable

only need 1 set to roll focus if you have enough casts/minute to trigger it off cd

[odd wraith]

pretty sure they proc seperately though

[uncut wigeon]

WTS purple dchar NA

[vague prairie]

go check on dummy, but im fairly certain they don't stack

Just the proc % rates stack additively but all subject to same 8 sec ICD

[slow magnet]

It's good to have one, it's bad to have multiple

[slow magnet]

It adds the percent of them, multiple just increases proc chance.

thats why it says max mantra total 100%

I put on some old gear pieces with it, i have 41% total on the focus recovery mantras

can see it cant proc for 8 seconds after i get a proc

[slow magnet]

wtf you have 71% proc chance

[odd wraith]

lol

it looks like its refreshing consantly during ur video tho

until it runs out

[slow magnet]

i never gain focus twice in the same 8 second window

im using rmb because it uses and restores no focus

the only focus restore im getting is from the mantra

[odd wraith]

its annoying theres no status effect

to show it

so im cooked huh

i gotta refresh my mantras

lol

[slow magnet]

You keep one

[odd wraith]

😭

keep the necklace one probably

[vague prairie]

you dont even need purple quality on fm, since you have ~40 hits/8 sec

even green-blue has almost 90-95% uptime

[tacit violet]

wtb dragonchar NA

[quartz verge]

Wts NA

[dire bobcat]

hello guys can anyone help me with blazing beam macro

[brittle junco]

2rt1f121 delete all delays

Also use shock fire for 1

And start your rotation by throwing c to burn

And cast x when the 1 hit by yourself

This insta speed and the target will get burn all the time ez win macro

[dire bobcat]

ty alot

[brittle junco]

Turn off this dps waste

[dire bobcat]

?

[fervent pond]

WTS purple ice rain

[opal bolt]

thank you game

[dire bobcat]

when the dps meter will work again ?

[pallid grotto]

never, new one is up tho

[ocean forge]

How much

[radiant dagger]

WTS EU

[pallid grotto]

WTB 2x purple BB EU

[opal bolt]

you tell me

[ocean forge]

2000

[zenith moss]

Yo, FM enjoyers

which mystic badge for Dragonchar?

[fervent pond]

dual drag

[zenith moss]

this?

[fervent pond]

ye

[zenith moss]

Yass, I am cooking.

Is this useful? I like the healing, but... this can be another Dragonchar stack

[fervent pond]

up to you if you want more survivability or more damage

[zenith moss]

when is dmg not the answer, with DPS-check content... but thank you.

[pallid grotto]

i recommend to have it, if u get aggro u defo want a lil lifesteal cause fm has like zero defense unless u play ice
we get hit 8-9k where meeles get hit 3-4k

[zenith moss]

why is that TSK, I mean where does the difference in stats coming from? Passive, class gains with level?

[pallid grotto]

our BASE defense stat yes

we get like 20 per level up

meeles get 60-80
they at 3-4k def we at 1.3-1.5k

instead we get shitton of piercing and also high crit

[zenith moss]

how is tanking with FM currently, I havent really played FM with NEO aggro rules (or lack of)

i know ppl use it in Poharan

[pallid grotto]

i think many fms here get the experience to tank once a while and it's... not optimal

but well, work with what u have and it works

[zenith moss]

hai, sensei

[fervent pond]

prob the most annoying right now are cobalt twins

blood mane is easy

cold storage the same thing

hae mujin harder but more manageable if you get him to 50%

i die the most often tanking cobalt twins lol

esp the kfm one

[distant inlet]

Do we use Dragonfrost or fire as dragonchar player?

[fervent pond]

dragonfrost

disable dragonblaze

[distant inlet]

[jagged hull]

Needing purple for instant cast seems quite unfortunate.

[late coral]

WTB PURPLE BLAZING PALM EU

[fervent pond]

wts purple ice rain NA

[fickle glen]

wts eu

[waxen grove]

WTB purple Blazing Beam EU

[brittle junco]

Same question

Who know

?

[jagged hull]

Sounds like random bugs

[pastel hound]

WTS all gear + soul badge + mystic badge
DM if interested

[wicked citrus]

kinda crazy how purple ice rain is more expensive than purple dragonchar especially since most FMs are going dragonchar now

[faint stone]

WTS NA

[fickle glen]

people is braindead

[rough crow]

WTB Purple Blazing Palm NA

[opal bolt]

2.2k?
sorry I fell asleep yesterday at like 6pm

[empty viper]

WTS EU

[native sail]

WTS NA 200K

[pallid grotto]

Why not EU

How many tries?

[frank canopy]

Yeah prices are so random rn

From one day to another can go from 25k to 45k

[fickle glen]

isnt 200 is cheap af for na standarts

[fleet wolf]

61% of the damage requiring burn, while most Beam user can’t even consistently maintain Balefire.

[terse fiber]

And its getting harder and harder to keep burn with purple palm users in team 😄

[jagged hull]

680 defense sounds kinda nice ngl

[feral lynx]

Whats stronger purple Ice rain or purple blazing beam?

[fickle glen]

I don't know if there is any confirmation but I do think beam can pull ahead if you know how to use purple palm with it 🤔

But without palm ice is stronger afaik?

[cedar tulip]

B> 2x Purple beams NA Heavens reach

dm dm

[fickle glen]

said 70k to me last night

going down 👍

[ocean forge]

X?D 70K

surely tomorrow its 30k

[fickle glen]

honestly should have asked him to put f5

[wraith oar]

hey guys

is my 50 lvl book useless? xd

[fickle glen]

beam build uses it

[wraith oar]

Nicee then

Ty

[pallid grotto]

beam purple palm* build uses it yes

[crystal idol]

It's 16k in NA lol

But I'm looking for 10k though 🙂

[fickle glen]

16 in na?

how did we got worse than na?

[native sail]

reroll in Na

[pallid grotto]

aye, how tf is EU worse than NA now 😂

[jade bronze]

only went down cuz someone quit

[odd wraith]

beam enjoyers

[crystal idol]

Should I cope one of those 🤔

[odd wraith]

if u know how to keep burn up

if not then no

[crystal idol]

I just rotate between c and 1

Dunno if there's anything more

[undone compass]

any beam players can critique my dps in bsh2? Not sure if my beam casts are low or not

[main roost]

beam + shock fire/impact + meteor should add up to 1 per second

what's the fight time

[frank canopy]

Meanwhile EU is just a desert when it comes to book, the worst thing is they gon try to sell theirs for 40k each

[graceful hawk]

What a nice system isn't it

[pallid grotto]

send some of those to EU ty

insta sold 😄

[opal bolt]

It's time to move to NA

[pallid grotto]

Very unwise decision politically and financially

[late coral]

WTB BLAZING PALM PURPLE EU

[main roost]

how the turn tables

na has cheaper books this time

[graceful hawk]

Rng giveth, rng taketh

[vale musk]

damn eu books are crazy

[lyric stump]

bro my purple beam has more base dmg than this, cope harder please.

[tranquil prawn]

https://i.imgur.com/SlBkeDs.png we got a smart one again

[fervent pond]

LOL

[lyric stump]

[tender tinsel]

WTS purple ice rain EU moonwater 29k nick: Hopot

[jagged hull]

I like how this channel gets a discount

[fickle glen]

honestly whoever uses that channel with 2 min cd deserves it

[sharp grotto]

wts 2x purp dragonchar on eu

[lyric stump]

you switching builds nellan or no space for them?

[sharp grotto]

i gambled and won

lol

i need to sell to gamble more for legendary try

neo for me is just gambling simulator till legendary dungeons rn

i main live rn

[lyric stump]

lol nice

[graceful hawk]

Another lucky streamer

I'm gonna

[tranquil prawn]

wts 1x purple dragonchar on eu

[tranquil prawn]

offered him 22k but he wants 30k+ at least xd

[pallid grotto]

WTS EU

[bitter root]

any ice fm who can send me a screenshot of their skill usage on blood mane? wanna compare my skill usage

[faint stone]

WTB Purple Char

NA Heaven's Reach

[terse fiber]

You might want to specify build 😄

[bitter root]

ice? are there multiple ice builds , new to ice

purple ice rain build

[terse fiber]

Oh god didnt see the "ice". Mb then. Need to get some rest from farming mane XD

[late coral]

WTB Purple Blazing Palm and Purple Force blast EU

[radiant dagger]

WTS EU

[wicked citrus]

WTB Purple Ice Rain for 40k NA

[faint stone]

WTB Purple Dragonchar NA

[languid rune]

WTS NA Cheap!!!!

[native sail]

WTS 150K NA then i can quit T_T

[fleet wolf]

It's been 25k for NA, and no one buying for hours.

[rough crow]

WTB Purple Blazing Palm NA dm me

[molten flint]

you're expecting someone to pay 3k real dollar value for a book?

[pallid grotto]

The gamble costs 150-200$ and it's 5% chance

[native sail]

wait 150k dg = 3k dollars? can i sell my dg to u plz!

[lyric bay]

can we keep the wts posts to the other trash ch? why do we need to ruin both ch with that spam?

[opal bolt]

I've never been super good in math, but I think you need to cut that result in half. Still a lot for a book xD

[wicked citrus]

I mean, the vast majority of players will never see a legendary book this patch, maybe even the next one. 150k is really not asking much considering dragonchar is literally 50k

A whale somewhere will pay 150k eventually

Even purple Sunflower is going for like 80k-110k lol

[zealous coyote]

can i use the same macro for dchar that i use for ice fm?

[pallid grotto]

Which is "the other" channel

[jagged hull]

😴

[opal bolt]

Yeah I don't blame him, you're not gonna put it 10k more than a purple that's for sure. I just think the prices are absurd starting with purple even

Not his or our fault that the game has that dumb design

[jagged hull]

Dragonchar 50k 🤔

NA kinda wild

[opal bolt]

Wonder how much purp char will cost in like 2-3 months, if you quit now, come back in July (if Neo is still alive) it will probably be, idk, less than 5k?

[wicked citrus]

Yeah its crazy lol

I think purple main skills will stay like 10k-15k

Nobody’s going to plummet purples bc gamblers will keep prices up

A 5% chance to get legendary is so low when you need 50 fragments to attempt

Useless purple skills may drop to like 1.5k but i dont think consistently

In NA its like
Blazing Beam - 12k-20k
Ice Rain - 40k-50k
Dragonchar - 50k-60k atm

[minor nymph]

Hi guys will Mushins tower 7F be easier if I’m playing ice instead of char? 🤣 or should I just get pvp skills

[sharp grotto]

wts eu

[zealous coyote]

whats your ap? 7F shouldnt really be a struggle since they nerfed it after enough fm cried too much

[minor nymph]

I have 700, are there certain must-have skills books for 7F? Or im I just playing fm wrong and need more practice🤣

[frank canopy]

Funny top 10 on cinderlands nice ddos hour

[jagged hull]

You can use stun on 3 (blue book), at that ap (idk about your other stats obv) you can just dps it down for the most part

You can put it on an accessory you switch to for pvp

[queen nest]

oof mate you either play like giga sht or something's not right at that point you should be able to just kill him without him even really moving

[minor nymph]

guess I’m just playing fm wrong hah

I switched from bm and just bought everything from f5 🤣

[zealous coyote]

have you checked your dps on a dummy? it does sound weird

[minor nymph]

7f was so easy for bm

[fickle glen]

bm is boosted class

[jagged hull]

Without even really moving
Is definetly inaccurate for 700 ap fm

[zealous coyote]

750 ap here and i manage to kill him pretty clean since he stops moving during ice puddles and thats were he usually dies

[jagged hull]

You're approaching the point where you can just dps it down though

[minor nymph]

Yeah could just be my rotations, which plugins do you guys use to check dps?

I think I used bnsbuddy few years ago idk if it works for neo

[zealous coyote]

azuras parser is what i use but you might need to activate the fight in the settings as its not included in the base config

oh he is already included, just checked

[minor nymph]

👌 thanks!

[fickle glen]

does anyone have those dps charts for ice

Rain is 50% right

[graceful hawk]

Yes

[fickle glen]

so blue to purple is like 2k gain?

🤔

assuming you have 20k dps

that sounds too low

[sleek musk]

way closer to 60% honestly

[fickle glen]

do u have purple lmb?

[sleek musk]

nope

[fickle glen]

typo

[sleek musk]

purple rain and lmb

[fickle glen]

meant lmb

[sleek musk]

yes i do

Its always around 58-62%, doesnt matter how long the parse is

for me that is

[fickle glen]

isee

thanks!

[sleek musk]

if u need a chart dm me

np

[fickle glen]

o

pls share?

🙏

[sleek musk]

send u a dm

[plucky verge]

I heard there was a ddos before the WB and right in the fight too nah ?

I see at least 5 people that never got into top10 lel

[sleek musk]

from the screenshots ive seen yes

[pallid grotto]

i ended up at almost 1.85%..

12 or 13min fight

[odd wraith]

Any geared beam users show some dps dummy action?

[wicked citrus]

ya i was gonna ask, how much are people reaching dps wise with purple blazing beam

[faint stone]

i avg about 18-20 on hae but it depends on inferno crits >.<

[pallid grotto]

45-46k on a sunny day with crits on bbs

4.1k crit, 3,3k cdmg, 949 ap

wb i can hold 47-50 range

very close to dc but dc is a lil better
as for ice, need a similar reference gearwise

main issue is with crits, no crit on bb = 16k
crit = 37-40k

wb 20 stacks bb hits for about 44-46k, so theoretically 51-53k possible with my gear, though u never start with full stacks and bosses are moving :)

[sharp grotto]

20stacks??

bro what

i never manage to get more than 2 stacks on wb

cinderlands gaming

[pallid grotto]

dragon or meganura u can hit 20 stacks
just go empty channel 10s before start

[sharp grotto]

doesnt exist on moonwater

[pallid grotto]

cinder benefit

[sharp grotto]

damn

yea wb is rly bad meter for dps

cz of the balls mechanic

[pallid grotto]

and u can also use buffs (lifesteal +305 one), party stuff etc

but ye i guess dc & bb on par for now, the higher crit we get the better bb will be
dc is more ping reliant for maxing out counts, bb hardcast 1/s

[sharp grotto]

no bro

bb is not on par with dc

[tranquil prawn]

Dc is still better tbf

[wicked citrus]

it feels like for purples

DC > Ice Rain > BB

[pallid grotto]

heavy investment prob different than single purple

[sharp grotto]

on 44gm i can hold 55k on dummy and this is with focus issues

bb cant get better

if i get more focus i get better parse

bb is locked at the casts

[pallid grotto]

and non crit suffers extra

[sharp grotto]

p sure minus agrees there

[pallid grotto]

additional dmg part is too big on it

[sharp grotto]

legendary dragonchar tho is complete scam

xd

[tranquil prawn]

We always said that dc is like 15% ish better compared to bb

[pallid grotto]

on leg i think no discussion ice all the way

bb is nice tho with purple palm

[tranquil prawn]

Ye for leg ice is the winner

I do also like legy bb though

[pallid grotto]

bb itself doesn't make it up to dc
but with purple palm and some other stuff

[tranquil prawn]

So yeah wtb legy bb eu

[pallid grotto]

no u

me first

[tranquil prawn]

If you pay more

[pallid grotto]

lets first get one, NA has one

u'd pay 150k?

[tranquil prawn]

Ye easily

[pallid grotto]

ait then, gl

[sharp grotto]

leg char is just

[tranquil prawn]

[sharp grotto]

very little more base dmg

for perma boost

but 3focus cost

and only focus recov on crit

so u need crit char and crit on palm

to recover the full cost

[pallid grotto]

aka the higher ur gear the better

meanwhile ice parse for day n night without any issues

[wicked citrus]

ya i was originally gonna go DC bc purple it's the best imo, but assuming as the game goes on / more patches, i assume getting legendary skillbooks will become a bit more accessible, so it makes more sense to invest in ice rain

[tranquil prawn]

Theyre not the smartest with their scaling

[pallid grotto]

tbf if KR gets any balancing patches

doesn't matter what u say now might be different in few weeks

"balancing" NC way is sometimes complete random stuff

[tranquil prawn]

I will stay all the way with beam

[pallid grotto]

+1

i like my beamers

[tranquil prawn]

Even though i would consider it the worst

[fallen salmon]

They will never be accessible lmao
Absolutely not a single patch KR has introduced made the book economy better

[sharp grotto]

im staying char cz it will eventually scale well if i can perma crit

[pallid grotto]

all 3 viable in that sense

ice bb dc on leg tier prob that order

[tranquil prawn]

That's the only good thing

You can play all 3 skills all the way

[pallid grotto]

i like variety of builds with bb

could even have hybrid build with ice skills added still works

[wicked citrus]

ya i think any playstyle is viable which is nice

i like ice most bc i feel a lot more mobile

[pallid grotto]

ice has benefit of high def

[late coral]

WTB Purple Palm and Purple Force Blast

[plucky verge]

WTS EU dragonchar purple

[late coral]

WTB Purple palm and Force blast Purple

[lyric stump]

whats your gm on beam?

[pallid grotto]

44

[lyric stump]

oh I see, makes sense why you have high base dmg lol

only annoying part about beam is no AOE dmg

so scuffed fighting group of mobs

[pallid grotto]

well yes

then again, i have other party members

[lyric stump]

I wish they buff it and make it peirces though them, like in line

[pallid grotto]

that would be 3rd spec zap

[lyric stump]

or at least on purple make it does that or something lol

its annoying picking them individually

how much does the purple palm do when it explode btw?

[pallid grotto]

13-15k ? not paying actively attention

16.5

[lyric stump]

oh thats nice

[pallid grotto]

16.5-17 actually just checked vod

leg bb u get a lot more so that'll be a side boost

[lyric stump]

I don't think I'm gonna be touching that anytime soon or in future

[lyric stump]

crit or base?

[pallid grotto]

crit

base no clue with all those numbers 😂

4-6k assumably

[lyric stump]

alright ty

[radiant dagger]

Wts eu

[pallid grotto]

imma correct this, it's 14.8-15.2k on bb non crit

[radiant dagger]

Dam too high damage

Nerf

wish dragonchar can have 15k damage non crit

Xdd

[pallid grotto]

u use twice as many hits

ur chances on critting and losing less dps is higher

i really need high base crit to not suffer as much

😄

any non crit is -65% dps instantly on my sustain

[pallid grotto]

how much does dc hit with crit on your gear?

[lyric stump]

still better than mine 9.5k 😅 11gm

[fickle glen]

sounds like low gear issue 🤔

thats how much my rain does with blue

[lyric stump]

non crit?

[fickle glen]

oh non crit

nvm

[lyric stump]

with crit mine does 22k on dummy