Destroyer

[brisk oar]

...and we, who bought another chest for $35 just to stay in this class

[strange crow]

So tough to find smash. Ppl mostly salvaged lol

[sullen cape]

and people said ahh so many going for destro when class change is here sure right

we lost 3 big destros in eu

and no clue about the smaller ones probably lost a few there aswell

[brisk oar]

i dont see new destros too much

[sullen cape]

yeh

[grim pasture]

I have a tradeable purple smash but sadly on EU and i assume you are on NA

[strange crow]

Yeah so sad

[grim pasture]

Yeah most people thought destro is a one button high dmg class but nc said wait here is destro 2.0 aka Dark Lancer. One button high dps with burst cd reduction and a usable grab. So why play destro when class change comes with lancer

[unborn spruce]

i like axes

[grim pasture]

Yeah same just wished more than heli mode was viable would like play earth destro but not possible on neo

[unborn spruce]

is viable

but dont deal the same dmg

i like earth

but need legendary skills

[grim pasture]

and good luck getting those skills

[unborn spruce]

yeah

[grim pasture]

maybe in 2 years they are easily available like blue books now

[unborn spruce]

may new tier

i play smash build alot but have no badges

hope test whit legend and galeforge 48

[grim pasture]

hope nc will finally fix nc...skill has so many issues. Live MC was nice...should have copy pasted it to neo

[unborn spruce]

well in live server the most dmg skill is wrath xd

here pnly works whit fury up

only*

[grim pasture]

But if i remember correct KR should get something where you can test builds ,,, if so would have been nice to have it on release

[late saddle]

Earth lacks something to consume the stacks. a lot of rework is needed or something like rmb cleave GMs consuming 2 stacks per hit, enough to be powerful and separate the specs completely

nothing will change tho since its nc

[grim pasture]

yeah thats the sad truth...all nc did was buff dmg or give "strong" version every few uses

[strange crow]

last piece done

[toxic moss]

@late saddle another mad scientist!

[strange crow]

WTB Relentless Fighter

[late saddle]

You shouldnt need that no?

Then again you don’t need judge either

[strange crow]

I am trying differnet build

[late saddle]

TIME TO GO VERDICT

[strange crow]

testing different

some ppl were doing this build, so I was curious

[late saddle]

Oh ur going mine

Its pretty fun

And not that bad dmg at all

[strange crow]

how do u play as rotation?

when do you use MC?

[late saddle]

Whenever id drop stacks

[strange crow]

r u NA?

[late saddle]

Getting to 10 and Mc gives you 20, does some dmg, applies bleed

But i went 102 48 48

No EU

[strange crow]

i see

[late saddle]

102 exe tho

You can push 120 48 48 12 if you don’t want ram book

[strange crow]

yeah most ppl will do that way

RAM is my favorite

it's my alt so

[late saddle]

Yeh same, not dropping it

[brisk oar]

man this supreme is not too high for ur gear?

[late saddle]

Tbh in EU i was the only one doing this build

[strange crow]

It's just alt for fun

[late saddle]

Its fun and util but does less dmg than pure exe

Obviously

[strange crow]

books in my des stash lol

trying to mix MC more in normal rotation

x -> f -> r -> t repeat

[late saddle]

Its wonderful for off-fury and msp

Gets a little tricky with F key

[strange crow]

kinda optimized. tough to mix MC during Fury.

maybe doing wrath gale execute only during Fury

[late saddle]

Yeah during fury its best to keep the usual helicopter going

[late saddle]

Definitely, since it anicancels

If you cast on 20 tho and you have the lvl3 exe up it works hah

Yeh

If the book limit gets lifted ill go back 100%

Rn i had to suspend it for extra dps in content

About cleave rmb well

As always its fun vs util

Even without trying it i know cleave is 100% more fun

But era so fast to stack to 10

Hurts to see that big whale kr des be absolutely handless

Where tw vids

[strange crow]

Ok optimized the rotation with exec mc

Very tight during fury, but U can apply bleed 🙂

[brisk oar]

who selling this lets make it 500 anyways i get it tyty

[dim hull]

Most big whale tw des changed to wl

The remaining are playing exe + gale

Im gonna try the triple 48 too just need 2 more leggy mc

[sullen cape]

i hit +6 mighty cleave on mine

but still no execute in idk 15+ rolls

and now i need to farm hm essences to roll i yeeted too many away for soul shields

[sullen cape]

i finally hit execute after 21 rolls

but hey even the 3 points were 7,5% skill dmg increase

not that bad

[jagged gull]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[sullen cape]

[unborn spruce]

I saw a MC in f5 go for 11k, then 10k, then 9k, and now they've listed it at 16k. I don't understand the math behind that, but if you're not selling it for 9k, why are you listing it at 16k now? xD

[copper slate]

Someone bought my mc. ( Trying to sell it since 1 week )

And he try to sell it higher big brain

[jagged gull]

as sad as it is but eradicate outclasses cleave by a ton

time to pull out the shovel

[sullen cape]

https://tenor.com/view/love-you-i-love-you-gif-13448148580103559767

[trail grail]

no1 kr

[sullen cape]

What did aqui drop

Hurricane?

Or relentless

Ok intresting

Tru

Eradicate spam like crazy

[sullen cape]

Ah the emberstomp is no upgrade really anyway so no rush there

The galeforce are goated tho

[modern citrus]

@sullen cape When?

[sullen cape]

gimme the dg for it

and 1 bound smash can't really cook for the ultimate

[latent jetty]

WTS NA Legg book Galeforce PMO

[brisk oar]

[sullen cape]

i thought i am poor

[brisk oar]

these 2 are killing me

[sullen cape]

oh yeh biggest pain

[sullen cape]

[brisk oar]

yea i must do this for 26k sf, i stiil need 2.8k

but its too hard specially mystic one 🥲

[brisk oar]

what did u do 🐳

[sullen cape]

[brisk oar]

im 5 more character away at mystic atleast...

[sullen cape]

Need to do that more often aswell

But i am too lazy

[tepid mason]

The game is still more alive then i thought

[sullen cape]

You coming back ?

[broken maple]

:o

WTS sin

Top class trust

[sullen cape]

I mean game got saved with new region patch ngl before that it was dead af

[tepid mason]

Nah dont feel like whaling in bns again wasting my money for something else

[true vine]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-9673680

[sullen cape]

And yeah if it wasn't for that new region patch i would be gone aswell

[tepid mason]

What did they change?

[sullen cape]

I mean they gave us class change option where you could reroll trash books to main books

Good hajoon box good bp a event where you could take 1 selector or 2 random bound legys for 1100 gold

I took the 2 rando and rerolled em with class change

Got +8 legy books from that patch

[broken maple]

Soul boost for newcomers

[sullen cape]

Yeh and 10 purple selectors in bp

[broken maple]

And mystic badge farmers

[sullen cape]

Was good shiat ngl

I mean this patch sux except new dungeon

Let's see how next one will be

[broken maple]

4 leggy selector from hajoon trust

[sullen cape]

[jagged gull]

Des channel invaded by sins huh

[sullen cape]

Fr

They don't even play destro twinks

Time to invade sin ch

[broken maple]

? You didn't see my alt ?

El Fappy

[sullen cape]

Show prove

[brisk oar]

i really want to see how will sacred mystic badge effect to my exes

[sullen cape]

hmm which effect do you mean

[brisk oar]

well we'll see soon 🥲 somehow i upgraded my soul badge to dawncrest too

[brisk oar]

for every eradicate +1 fury i guess

[sullen cape]

Ah it basically changes nothing tbh

Only that you stack faster always

Instead of only after execute use and badge trigger

[brisk oar]

with leg eradicate im doin rttrtt i want to see how much it will speed up my exes

maybe it helps to focus problem with rtt bc it will stack fury faster

anyways we'll see 🥲

[sullen cape]

Yeh

[jagged gull]

🥳

[copper slate]

Sid hasn't played for several months and he's ahead in terms of levels 🤣

[sullen cape]

crazy commitment from the guy but big gz

[late saddle]

Gj sir kingest

Did we really revert to no crit on lvl up

Mega poggers

[grim pasture]

The problem is that the level up notice isn't correct. It also gives some crit dmg on previous levels but didn't show it in chat. So they aren't 100% accurate

[modern citrus]

GZ

[brisk oar]

i hit 100+ stacks finally

[delicate haven]

Guys, if someone gets one of those pls drop it on market before u salvage

[copper slate]

200k

[strange crow]

Wtb leg emberstomo focus recov

[sullen cape]

and you get 65 crit dmg from it btw

and 382 sf from it

[delicate haven]

so 33333 is gone now ?

[sullen cape]

yeh

i mean should hit gold line wep soon

but that ain't enough

need to hit a freaking rahu/zulia next hajoon rotation

didn't hit any of new ones in 10 legy only fuses

i cope for the 2 tries with next hajoon

yeh ain't going for the crit dmg and crit rate set

if i hit any

yeh the 88 ap gonna be juicy

with 15 crit dmg %

oh nice

stronk

[sullen cape]

wb set buff is juciy aswell

[sullen cape]

legend

[jagged gull]

what do you mean super whale bond

[sullen cape]

i mean it is super whale

or super lucky

[stuck sedge]

I belive the current set with crit rate is better for us, the more we reset the more we scale, I will need to make a comparison but with the current one I have 50% crit chance which is a good chance to reset exe.

Will see when is out 🤔

[sullen cape]

Basically all top 5 destroyers in kr play execute only with celestial

But dunno if it is really worth i think galeforce still stays important until we have ultra high crit rates

[copper slate]

Imagine execute for only 10 sec

[grim pasture]

If we had high enough critrate galeforce would lower dps since it halves our defense but good luck achieving at least 70-80% crit in neo

[jagged gull]

@stuck sedge enlighten us king

[stuck sedge]

I can't imagine I can pretty consistant get +12 sec more on fury

Right now not having galeforce makes no sence

For hight end content

[jagged gull]

How often does your thunder proc during 22 sec fury ?

[strange crow]

Yeah i also do +12 sec most of time unless boss jumps

[sullen cape]

yeh and i guess the best base cr% you can get is around 50% atm

that no way near enough to drop galeforce

[stuck sedge]

iuts only 6% of my dmg

since I only have one book

[sullen cape]

yeh 1 book ain't that good sadly

[strange crow]

anyone selling emberstomp : focus recovery?

[sullen cape]

Yeh the dawncrest thunder is fkd up

I think it is lvl 45

[sullen cape]

Or that but still that one makes galeforce useless

[jagged gull]

Bro wtf aquiel 1.9

I had 0.9

[sullen cape]

[late saddle]

Not sure which is nyonging

But hes pretty handless

And only wallet

Good for giving info on events tho 👍

Nvm its the first, since no gale or mc

Bro got 79 alrdy? Sheesh

[sullen cape]

Yeh tower xp push is stupid

[late saddle]

🤝

[sullen cape]

Remove it

Faster

[jagged gull]

None of them is

Maybe we are just handless Des

[sullen cape]

I mean the one streamer guy i saw was full mental

He made slot machine noises while hoping for resets

He played full execute of course

[late saddle]

doubt, bro has 3 ms and plays a macro with like 500ms

slowest anicancel on earth

npc gameplay

[sullen cape]

Yeh kr destros sre build different

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-smart-estimate-i-am-both-smarter-and-dumber-than-you-think-i-am-both-dumber-and-smarter-than-you-think-gif-8309148552665215226

[trail grail]

sell galeforce EU server pm offer

[strange crow]

who is selling emberstomp?

NA WTB Emberstomp: Focus (8k)

[terse mortar]

Me too^ i know theres 2 in circulation

[strange crow]

going crazy

[strange crow]

I need 1more mc and 1 cleave focus rec to end this build

[late saddle]

Lol nice

[sullen cape]

how is it pumping

[late saddle]

non existant im afraid

oh my

[sullen cape]

that is puming yes indeed

[strange crow]

Need cleave focus recov to squeeze one more MC

[strange crow]

Trash book is always tough to find since ppl salavge or reoll lol

[strange crow]

WTB Leg Cleave: Focus recovery

[late saddle]

?!

[strange crow]

Just for fun

🙂

[late saddle]

Cleave focus rec isnt fun its dogpupu

[strange crow]

I have used before, but couldnt use due to gear and other books

[strange crow]

Yeah I switched from des to dl to des

For fun

[late saddle]

Eu and na des need to unite on same serv

That way we would be… more than 6!

[jagged gull]

so i heard theres a class change coming next patch 👀

[copper slate]

Ye

Time to go DL

[sullen cape]

or WL

when gon DL/WL wtb

[copper slate]

Lyn destro

[strange crow]

😭 i wanna try cleave focus recovery before class change

[late saddle]

Yeh i resisted first wave, but nothing happened for earth, and its the spec that i like.
Don’t like getting outdpsed by stick user with 4k less sf and 300 ap less. Its not a race or metaslaving but class feels just very incomplete.

[late saddle]

Yeah, been des since gloomdross and shi in live. But i was earth

[delicate haven]

they gave earth that hard hitting skill and put it on a ~10sec cd so it doesnt be op so they can give DL same thing but they get to spam it 🙂

also u get locked in animation for that aoe

the kit is a X button ... thats what i dont like

i get that this is NEO in general but ...still..

[late saddle]

But Ive grown to be disillusioned now. Class is stripped of evety power from live version and left there. Execute was a fluke, everything around it is super weak. Gale is trash, wrath is super trash, no bleed without nerfing urself,
Purple LMBs are worthless, while other classes get some help towards CRate, a stat we need a lot aswell, but are starved even in base stats as everybody knows.
What the fk is verdict anyway? Impossible to even test it cause it doesnt give focus regen anyway.

Mc stacks for nothing, no output outside of exe to use stacks,
New stomps are pathetic, need 48gm for everything atp.
Stomp res itself is laughable legendary.
Switching to dps one makes you lose cc immunity, no dmg to be done if ur kd’d
Which leads to counterpart, fury, clearly need a legendary fury with combining both duration and cc immunity and cdmg bonus from live (guess who got it? DL)
Smash lacks cdr on fury other than dmg
Doom is so bad its not reliably castable and also you got a small window to even cast it or you lose forever
Cleave would have been the fix with GM maybe, but i don’t see anything happening

I love des i really do, played this and only this for 10years. I love the kit i love everything and the minuses too, i love the small dog SS cause i can move with spin. I love the C, feels badass every single time. I love the grab, power slam, shield, everything that i had to sacrifice to stack more X.

Time to escape the illusion, this isnt my class but a fac simile. Incredibly sad.

Not to mention where tf are we supposed to put the thunders (granted u get it)

Only the book rework could save the fun on des. IF it works like i hope to, some kind of collection tab but for books so i can play utilities and whatever random thing i want

Even then, it will be not on top ofc, but this isnt about that

[delicate haven]

new skill system will fix everything dont worry ..

[late saddle]

Even if you can suddenly stack 250gm exe gale and wrath still do 2000 dmg

Hell, in live the first buff (class was very weak) came to emberstomp thru MSP soul shields

our legy ss don’t even have a set bonus at all

Fk you neo

[delicate haven]

ye gearing in neo is the most boring sht ... its just more ap and crit ...thats it

Getting the new ss in live was so big
or new bracelet .. Oh boy!

here you get 5 ap ..gratz

Imagine getting rewarded for doing raids

[late saddle]

Real

And im sure im not alone in the sentiment

[unborn spruce]

Thank goodness you don't play the sin xD

I don't see anything wrong with the MC; the only bad thing is the doom, which is very random and requires 5 charges, very inconsistent, with the cleave sometimes hitting harder.

I see a future for Smash.

[late saddle]

Literally nothing consumes stacks but execute

If you don’t see the issue then idk

Sin is in a terrible state for damage output, but this isnt about that. Sins can at least choose between hs or ep, much like bm can choose between four specs. We have one choice only, because as i stated, the other one simply is incomplete

Because if earth was a thing, i guarantee you even if dmg was simply average, in the middle of chain, id be happy and content

Many others would too

[delicate haven]

Dont wanna be doomer about it but i dont think kr devs know what to do with earth build or destro in general.
And i feel kr destros are pretty happy with 1 button gameplay (seeing they dont even bother with gale).
Also no one listens or cares about what "the west" thinks.
So the easy solution... Class change every 3 months if you wanna be competitive . 💀

[late saddle]

should've never magically removed bleed from cleave either

i thought id hold on until book rework to resume the hybrid, its very fun and feels good to play

if i change, prob just gna be DL, it yoinked the fury from us
as i never played anything other than des, might aswell go for giga dmg - albeit as i hear, dl isnt exactly anything fun or complicated

i mean sure theres WL but i had a bad impression of casters all those years ago

so i went melee

now if we had archer, id prob just go that

or give us 3rd somehow

heh

yeh lot of things not happening here

if class change isnt anytime soon, and meanwhile somehow i kill RK, i might just call it

seems to be the ending point for a lot of people

unless the NE:ON actually delivers and revives

[terse mortar]

whos mighty cleave is in f5 rn in na 🙂

[strange crow]

how much is it?

[terse mortar]

it was 8000

i just bought it

[delicate haven]

move to eu 😂

[strange crow]

Tried cleave focus recovery

It was a trash

Speed boost cancels whenever i use Mc

That wastes so much focus

[terse mortar]

Thank you for testing for me now i don’t have to

[strange crow]

don't even try

cleave focus and cleave speed dmg itself is almost same as well.

Stupid mechanism is this.
Once I use MC, it should not cancel speed boost, but it cancel the speed boost.
There is bad moment that costs 10 focus. Without emberstomp, it goes into lack of focus so fast.
During Fury, it is kinda ok speed with wrath combo, but not good compare to cleave speed. Cleave speed gives more hits, so end up higher dps.
Cleave:focus spamming with MC is so slow.

[sullen cape]

[late saddle]

Ehehe i didnt say it was trash for nothing (regarding cleave focus rec)

And ye kr players not much hands somehow

[grizzled steeple]

how much is leggy galeforce rn?

[sullen cape]

[jagged gull]

Des players when galeforce maxxing

[dim hull]

Too many hands needed, would rather buy a secret skill book

[sullen cape]

I mean is best dmg build for us atm

Except if you mix secret skill in already

[late saddle]

ye ember 0 priority

swap to gale for dps increase to help w raid or whatever

cleave is fine rly

u can prob clear everything alrdy so u can keep playing like that if u want

if i didnt need to get a push for raid id still be on 120 48 48

skills rework copium

just go 226 piercing dragon 4head

[grizzled steeple]

ommg u dont use galeforce lets go

give me 1 galeforce :3

[terse mortar]

Wtb emberstomp focus recovery 2x na PLS

[terse mortar]

only 1x now

[vast mirage]

Could someone please give me the Terminator mouse?

[knotty grove]

what 2 first items i should upgrade to go from Winterbane to white light, which one will give most value? I want to go for a weapon, but what would be the best choice for 2nd item?

[brisk oar]

cheapest one i think

[late saddle]

Earring after weapon ig

[sullen cape]

[delicate haven]

Guys, are we getting this for book crafts or is it just a dream i had?

[flint folio]

you're not getting shiet

[cobalt peak]

WTB Leggy Emberstomp Resistance EU

[stuck sedge]

We did it bois 48 CT 😄

[lusty halo]

still staying far away from you at demon

Congrats!

[strange crow]

more and more CT, demon will be in chaos

[sullen cape]

gz

[strange crow]

Just pvp in the future lol

It is pvp zone

[lusty halo]

aerial the tank it is

[stuck sedge]

Thx Xenovia ❤️

[modern citrus]

GZ

[strange crow]

anyone has purple verdict?

[jagged gull]

Gz bro

[sullen cape]

gz sir king

[lusty halo]

WTS NA if anyone needs a core

[sullen cape]

folks

it is time to test

wanted resistance but smh got this 3 times xD

[strange crow]

Good luck

It is good though

[sullen cape]

but on full execute you sure ?

[strange crow]

Nope

[sullen cape]

with galeforce

[strange crow]

For mc lol

I am pure MC build

[late saddle]

Well prob not good for shadow ye

[sullen cape]

yeh i guess could increase burst

but aint the long run dps

[late saddle]

doubt it does anything to burst either, unless u mean 48gm

execute is completely absent

and resistance does more dmg by itself and also providing defense is a smol increase per se

[grizzled steeple]

wtb eu

[sullen cape]

bruh i rerolled into focus emberstomp like 5 times already

gimme resist atleast

[sullen cape]

getting every skill except those i need smh

got 3 tradeable executes and 1 galeforce

[grizzled steeple]

broo gime 1 execute i will give you anihilation

[sullen cape]

i mean gonna sell 3 probably after class change

[lusty halo]

I am gonna be running CR heavy on my des

[grizzled steeple]

you gonna change class ???

[sullen cape]

Maybe not to sure yet

But if i stay destro im gonna switch the trash bound books i have to main skills

[grizzled steeple]

same

[sullen cape]

Btw anyone interested in 1 Legy Execute (EU)

[grim pasture]

Always interested depending on price and how quickly you wanna sell it

[grizzled steeple]

who is selling on eu please pm me

[grizzled steeple]

i need at least 1 leg galeforce

[lusty halo]

got some good reroll luck on core to not get Exe +2 lol

[late saddle]

Shiiet

[terse mortar]

thats his alt btw

[grizzled steeple]

intresting build

[strange crow]

He got shocked after I showed him my build lol

[terse mortar]

i was full cleave at purple xd

[strange crow]

Might go Farstrike DL from next patch

I had fun enough

[terse mortar]

before u swap can you pls sell me emberstomp focus recovery LOL

PLEASE

[strange crow]

i need to salvage sorry

if u can find me any other trash book

i can swap

[strange crow]

Nothing to play

No new contents for 3 months so

If next patch only contains 45 floor without new dungeon? Yeah time to stop paying to stupud game.

[terse mortar]

thats what i did during queens patch

i just played other games till dc came out

[lusty halo]

KR Content slump turns into an NA super slump

[grizzled steeple]

still trying to conntact destro who is seling this

bro wants 8.5 for this galeforce

[sullen cape]

I mean the market is kinda dead so yeah

[grim pasture]

Destro market was never alive in the first place

[grizzled steeple]

Bro ik but still 8.5 for gale force is too much i think

[grim pasture]

yeah but good luck finding another...so he can ask whatever he likes. But that doesnt mean it will sell.

Luckily rerolled my smash today in my 3rd galeforce

[grizzled steeple]

Gz

Prob will just wait for class change and change my skills to what I need

[grim pasture]

Thanks. Sadly only have 1 mc that i could switch but will keep it for emergency bleed if its needed

Lets see if we get class change next maint

[late saddle]

Whos departing with the change?

[grim pasture]

I will stay for now in hope for a miracle in form of a complete class overhaul to make it closer to the original from live and lack of an alternative. Hope the other classes from live will come to neo

[late saddle]

Hoped for that too brother

Im convinced they don’t know if anything is wrong cause kr destros are full pepega

[grim pasture]

Sad but true. What will be your class of choice?

[late saddle]

Considering that everything is a dps check and nothing about mechs like 10yrs ago , i assume everyone unhappy will go wl and spear cause no real balancing changes are happening

Im looking at spear aswell

Just like last voucher change, i will be conflicted till the end cause i just love des and only played des

But this isnt the des i love, i played earth, and i waited and waited so much for buffs or overhaul but nothing came

No Gm on rmb
No legy fury
Emberstomp opportunity wasted (first balance change in live came with msp SS and they targeted emberstomp, buffing its dmg and reducing the cd)

Everything dawncrest seems incredibly lazy

Badges only AP no buffed modifiers or new mystic effects , incredibly boring and disappointing (this applies to all classes)

Another couple of items that couldve been used to balance skills

When a spear boye with 4k sf less than you outdps you , its a good feeling

[grim pasture]

Yeah i feel you started as gunner for few months but destro main for almost 8 years. Was conflicted last voucher as well but raid needed the cc that destro provides. And i still hope for a rework of earth / MC gameplay or release of 3rd spec.

But so far they didnt address the issues in the slightest and don't seem to care about destro ... must be the perfect class if they dont see any issue with it.

Yeah DL seems tempting but the gameplay is equally boring to spamming execute for me.

[sullen cape]

but the DL gameplay got less rng and way more dmg so

pretty tempting

[copper slate]

i did bibong this guy was close of my dps

[sullen cape]

• better msp farm

pretty much everything is better on dl

[copper slate]

I have 600 more ap btw

[sullen cape]

yeah sure cc is the only thing we got a advantage but tbh in my raid the Blade masters manage most of the cc's

or that y

[grim pasture]

Yeah DL even get the superior grab + an extra skill for legy dungeons

Don't forget the chance for 100g once a year

[copper slate]

Im always Top 10 since the beginning of the game

0 time 100 golds

[grim pasture]

Tbh 10g is more likely than material chest but guess am lucky that i get them more often over 10g

[sullen cape]

bruh i get the 10g like every 4 wb chests

the last time i saw 100g was atleast 3-4 months ago

[grim pasture]

Same it has 40% iirc and the material i think 20%

Lets see how empty the destro wb list will get. Maybe not even enough to fill top 10

[sullen cape]

i mean same but the gambling build is slowly tilting me away

like the difference between runs with good resets and bad is so freaking huge it's stupid idk

[grim pasture]

Same here plus during execute you are animation locked and can't use your iframes. I feel like i have a little devil on my shoulder that gets louder the longer i play

[grizzled steeple]

yo any one have purple galeforce to sell on eu?

really need it

[grim pasture]

Sold 2 earlier today on eu

Don't you have purple skill selector from bp?

[grizzled steeple]

nope

used all for my bm

[late saddle]

literally has what des has on live, CDMG on fury

bleed on cleaveRMB mysteriously disappeared

[sullen cape]

nc just hates destro

classic

[late saddle]

fkin chopped class

i rly dont wanna change but the minuses stacking up too much

i waited the first wave for buffs

....they gave that emberstomp

[sullen cape]

and nothing else in sight so far

[late saddle]

balancing in general is all over the place (or nowhere)

[sullen cape]

i mean we always can go back again the next class change in worst case so

[late saddle]

des is still decent if u want

look at sin and summ

(and dont look at trigun)

hell even FM

[sullen cape]

i mean rumblebee sum is hitting good but yeh

[late saddle]

is just average like us

[grizzled steeple]

So no one have it rn?

[grim pasture]

As i said your battle pass stage 3 gives 3 purple selectors. Don't know how you used them for your bm on your destro. battle pass is per char not account

[grizzled steeple]

wdym on this bp?

prob used on gf already

[sullen cape]

doom is upon us

[copper slate]

Wait next week

Less des

[sullen cape]

fr

[grim pasture]

Thats the preview list of players that wont switch next week

[sullen cape]

[grizzled steeple]

i dont want to be last destro to be alive

please someone stay :3

[copper slate]

Idk if i swap or not

[grizzled steeple]

im gonna be like aang

the last destoyer

maybe destro will get buff next patch

[sullen cape]

50/50 for me atm not sure

[brisk oar]

i will stay

ey bros dont left us

[copper slate]

In my raid 2 swap DL already xD

Full DL/WL raid new meta with 1 sum

[wanton spear]

I'd rather play a class I like than playing for the dps. I play for the pleasure, not for the meta or for the competition. IRL is already enough tricky and frustrating.

[copper slate]

Ye but in NEO you need dps if you want clear everything Sadge

[late saddle]

the only way i enjoyed des here is when i played hybrid and i would say id enjoy even more if i switched to rmb cleave aswell

[copper slate]

Actually we need some balance

[late saddle]

but that would set me back even more in dps

i completely share vick's pov about smth u like, and i did in live all the way since release (des was VERY bad then)
but Baba simply tells the truth about everything being a dps wall

[sullen cape]

the thing is in live dps was not as important as it is here sadly

in live it was totally fine to play a class or spec with lower dps

[late saddle]

and balancing actually happened KEKW

[sullen cape]

since most of the stuff was mech heavy anyway

[sullen cape]

from time to time yeh

[late saddle]

i mean like mentioned before, it was easier cause of more things to touch-up , SS bonuses in primis

here somehow we lost ss bounses completely /shrug

[sullen cape]

tru

[wanton spear]

I see & understand your points regarding dps wall, but at the end, 2 parties (or 3?) in our server already cleared BT without being full of DL and WL, having variety of classes, even destro. Dps wall is a thing when you want to clear everything week 1. This game asks a lot of patience, due to these stupid %, and the % in the %, but at the end people managed to clear the content. I feel confortable in my game, our clan is clearing everything until B3, we reached B4 and indeed we lack dps, but we are still low geared and we work on it, as said, it's a matter of patience. I felt happy when I cleared Yunsang with my little alt without leg book, struggling some minutes to get really properly the mech. I still have to do 0 mistake and that's what I like.
In the end, people play how they want, but for some of you who want to switch class for the dps, I'd advise you to think twice before switching and think about what you truely want in this game : playing for the fun or playing for the meta (with risk of being disgusted).

If you want to be very fast of course.

Yeah, we think the same here

I am so far from it :x took me some time to realise msp was a good place for XP and it took me time to get all the 10% on my gear, well I was not in the mood of struggling for it x)

Yeah, shadow issue. I am like everyone else here I guess, earth should get some real boost

[grim pasture]

Earth doesnt need a boost it needs a rework. They buffed mc twice i think. The two main issues in my opinion are nothing to do with rage stacks (for pure earth) and the 2s cd on mc. It needs something like no cooldown if last hit crits like execute and needs 10 stacks to be available but can use up to 20 stacks with additional dmg per stack used

[wanton spear]

Well reworking to allow the class to get more dmg is kinda a boost, but yeah I get your point

[grim pasture]

yeah the cd kills it for me as well

[grizzled steeple]

who sells on eu??

[late saddle]

@sullen cape

[copper slate]

Another one

Not zeta

[late saddle]

ops

[sullen cape]

i mean i am selling one aswell but needs to be good price or i give it to a clannie

[fickle cipher]

We have fire kfm and wind bd bro

Off meta classes have low dps even at 35k++

We do the mechs

It is possible yea

[copper slate]

Possible if you whale

Or having god classes in your raid

[sullen cape]

yeah without strong classes in your raid you probably need 37k+ sf avg

[fickle cipher]

whats the sf average in general rn?

is it 35k?

I think its 30k b3 and 35k b4?

[sullen cape]

i mean our raid cleared with 35,4k avg sf

not sure rn what sf the other party had

but pretty sure it's simmilar

ok did the math the avg in whole raid is 35083 SF

we got DL:1 Des:1 Kfm:1 Fm:1 Sum: 2 Bd:2 Bm:2 Assa: 2

[copper slate]

My raid 35 768 SF average

1 DL/2 BD/2FM/1WL/1 KFM/2SUM/1Des/2BM

[dim hull]

does mushin soul core matter?

I think our raid only has 2

[sullen cape]

It is pretty good

I think gave me around 10% increase iirc

On +3 execute

[dim hull]

so 35.5k SF average and a bunch of mushin sc to clear boss 4

got it

[sullen cape]

I mean if your raid contains many high dps classes it is possible with less sf pretty sure about that

[copper slate]

Ye ofc like my raid

First clear i have like 32k now i have 34k and SF doesnt matter if you have all cards + gold line weapon and full skillbook

[dim hull]

no DL and only 1 WL, with 26k SIN and SUM

pretty much has to reach 35k SF average

we gonna see how it goes next week and try boss 4

[terse mortar]

wts NA

wts NA as well

[jovial marlin]

looking for a clannie (NA):
WTB> 2x Leg Executes 9k ea dm fast

[late saddle]

O7

[brisk oar]

dont put down your axes comrades!

[dim hull]

Axes are for the true enjoyers!

🪓

[late saddle]

Get ur executes now

Ding ding

[toxic moss]

Dark lancer Lupa incoming?

Gunner would be so much fun if it would release

[late saddle]

its their fault

[toxic moss]

Isn’t warlock a fun class to try out? Maybe it’s fun idk xD

[sullen cape]

Any destro left ?

[late saddle]

Didnt login or look at anything

Hows the situation

Any buffs

Kekw

Complete

[terse dagger]

Lets see in WB

[sullen cape]

[sullen cape]

[late saddle]

Who left alrdy?

[grizzled steeple]

sid did

[copper slate]

Rip

[dim hull]

[wanton spear]

We gonna be so few destros, be brave guys!

[sullen cape]

@jagged gull

Have fun on your new adventure

With an actual good class

[late saddle]

i rly dont want to change, played this since day1
but this crap version of des isnt what i loved, i waited all this time for buffs or changes
as i go for change i keep having doubts

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-dont-know-kylo-ren--k01KQCQK6ZEKG9BPTK38FJ4QWB3

[late saddle]

Guess i sell some Exes too

[jagged gull]

lancer noises

[late saddle]

o7

[brisk oar]

we will wait for ur come backs

[copper slate]

Seccitaj DL too

Rip

[grizzled steeple]

2 down

how many more?

[copper slate]

I want to swap too xD

[grizzled steeple]

no stayyyy

[copper slate]

I did this after many try

[grizzled steeple]

im stuck at 30th floor

xd

[copper slate]

ah

My FL is full bug

[grizzled steeple]

wdym?

[copper slate]

Friendlist i see people disconnected but they are ingame

Cant wisp them

[grizzled steeple]

lol

[stuck sedge]

🚁

[stuck sedge]

at this point this will become Lance and Lancer NEO

that class is so overtune and devs does nothing to address. Can't blame people for wanting to play the op, any lancer with 5k less SF than me does my dmg 😄

that's just insane and destro is not in a bad spot as a class

I cant imagine the rest, problem with destro is that at low gear the class feels the worst one you start fixing your crit rate become way much better.

at mid, low lvl gear it should be the worst until you address crit rate, maybe sin still worst

For me I can't see myself playing anything else, I any destro play in Moonwater patch and didn't reroll congrats this is a cake for any of us 😄

[broken maple]

they'll nerf it to the ground eventually and release 15k ncoins class transfer

ez stonks

[sullen cape]

maybe with next new class

then this one gonna be op again

[stuck sedge]

the only reason I can compete somehow is beacuse I have WB weapon witch fix your focus problems and have 3 CT 😄

and then you have the Average joe Lance with 35k SF that does my dmg 😄

[sullen cape]

yeah idk why nc just dosen't wanna balance stuff

like is it that hard

[broken maple]

still too many destros and sins

they buffed WL when it had like 5 players left + alts

and DL was nonexistant

[copper slate]

People just play Meta

I wanted to swap DL but i cant , i love my class

[delicate haven]

i dont think there will be 5 destros left after this class swap xD

[grizzled steeple]

Do u saw what happend and be today?

World boss

[heavy violet]

you need around 7k accuracy at 78 to reach 100%

[sullen cape]

[sullen cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431927637428932639/1499143728407773475/destro_ladder.jpg?ex=69f3b9e5&is=69f26865&hm=319d276fa5f273884cb2aea4ce84a25e81a59cd718315820d3d4d1efd613137d&

That was eu yesterday

Nah was in raid at that time

But thinking of it 4 of the top 10 destroyers are in my clan

We keeping destroyer alive

Until some might leave destroyer aswell

[grim pasture]

What setup are you guys running in tower? This is my current setup and stuck on stage 36 at the moment. Thinking of replacing "double edged sword" for "tough skin (+%hp)"

[lusty halo]

This is what I was running to kill harpie

[grim pasture]

Maybe any tips what iframes you used? For the yellow aoe i just spin or ss out. For the red dance zone i use c to iframe it and the shield for the 5 attacks afterwards. I feel i have more than enough dps but lack iframes since tab block can't fully block those since its only 0.5s every 1-2 seconds

This game really lacks basic healing from live. You could heal yourself from 5-100% in maybe 3 hits depending on gear

[lusty halo]

you pretty much did what I was doing, except i was using the CD Reduction to spam Ember + Rage

[grim pasture]

Ok will try cd tomorrow instead of the full heal

[jovial marlin]

looking for a clannie (NA):
WTB> 2x Leg Executes 9k ea dm fast

[frail marsh]

I can't decide which one of these new sets to take
I don't really have a 4 cost to take off, the 2 cost would definitely fit in easier,
but the other set upgrades my onrush level and crit dmg is always nice

[frail marsh]

Everything not pictured has percents attatched

so I would be removing the barakal sets, most likely

I'm wearing uhh 6% crit rate and 21% crit damage

5.3%/21% On my mantra stones

yeah I only have one meganura and one dragon left

yeah I'm pretty decent at maintaining my galeforce procs, I was considering that but idk I'm not good at all these hidden percent maths

I was better at it in retail when I could see my real numbers

oh my other option is to switch out mushin with this

and then drop the barakal 2 set with crit dmg

It's funny, I had that off for a while but for some reason I just put it back on

I think after the thunder strike set got nerfed from 5 to 4, I had enough room to swap that 2 cost back out for the 4 cost

alright thanks for the tips

Sf go down, dps go up

[terse dagger]

guys what need for kill 36 lvl tower? i dont can kill . help pls

[sullen cape]

Just don't get hit by red aoes

Try to parry as many of her normal attacks as you can

And take the 30 sec cd reduction useable thing

That way i killed her pretty easy

[terse dagger]

ty i try

[frail marsh]

Yeah the 30s cooldown is very important for destroyer
Make sure you save your shield until you need it to block the multi hit attacks

then use active cooldown reset to get your shield back
Play safe, don't just stand in ember and facetank everything

[frail marsh]

I recorded my first clear of harpy, maybe it will help somebody get some ideas for how to deal with her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyDXy8lZgwE

Super sloppy, lots of mistakes, and wearing non-optimized strategic skills

40 second in, I let two massive hits get through and it nearly cost me the run

[sullen cape]

[brisk oar]

tbh we need senpai secci's floor vids

[sullen cape]

Can make some later

[copper slate]

Instead of the movement speed i take the one with additional damage every 10 hits

[late saddle]

Zeta holds the line, i couldnt be bothered to wait for earth buffs anymore

Ill be back if they do

[late saddle]

i mean touching emberstomp was indeed the first step in des buffs in live, with the MSP SS introduced

really can't understand why these clueless devs can't even copy the old homework

[sullen cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431927637428932641/1501685198327250954/0e9b38d4dc33e053a4880bf536808eb8.png?ex=69fcf8d3&is=69fba753&hm=54218557180b6cb1bf255f2685c94d345724280a12cf25e9a225d2f435c2e662&

I mean look at that ladder

Came late yesterday

Yeh screenshoted it of my stream

[jagged gull]

Wtf des is so dead

[sharp dune]

@stuck sedge Still waiting for the streams you mentioned starting about 6+ months ago

[stuck sedge]

hahaha its comming soon 😄

at least i got some youtube vid going

planning to do more

https://www.youtube.com/@Aquielx

that's my youtube if you want to check it out xD

[unborn spruce]

ez floor 30

xD

[desert comet]

Hey, I have 3 leg books, 1 execute and 2 galeforce, should i keep galeforce books or turn them into execute books? Big Juice is my IGN for reference

[stuck sedge]

https://youtu.be/ed8IityndiA

Thinking to make lvl 30 as well but that 45 floor 😄

[stuck sedge]

unless you can get Galeforce book its not worth it. So make them into executes 😄

[desert comet]

rn i have 48 stacks of gale, 54 of execute

are you saying unless i can get a third legendary gale?

[wanton spear]

I'd suggest you to keep your 48 stacks of galeforce. It will allow you to get rage up to 22 seconds, worthes it imho.

[wanton spear]

I wish I could have my camera like this 😯 and damn those damages 😱!
I hear you tell that we might lack sometimes cc's , that's why I prefer to play with the 3x CD reduction + barakal soulcore. I feel more comfortable doing like this when I kill this boss.

[stuck sedge]

we have p[lenty of cc lol

it just that part that we dont have enought to keep chain cc

we just use C to Iframe

but everything is a matter of preference

there's no right away of doing things just do what works for you, That's what I did in the video

and its clean kill 😄

[stuck sedge]

https://youtu.be/WuVeoWQsgZs

no stream yet but I'm putting up some vids xD

[grim pasture]

Todays wb ranking...dead class

[unborn spruce]

wth

i can reach top 10 whit my alter

tbh

[unborn spruce]

fun fact

fury = lose dmg

I mean, all the skills scale with defense and fury takes away my defense, I noticed that in low level dunjs I hit less with fury than with her since it hits critical more often, obviously this in high level dunjs fury is better to guarantee criticals

[late saddle]

Leg fury shouldve been long out combining the effects or smth
Yet another thing spitting in our faces “but bro y have def scale on skill” when we’re perma halved def kekwwwww

[unborn spruce]

or put critical dmg in fury to solve that problem

[grim pasture]

Or give us a decent crit rate in general. Even big whales have around 50% crit rate. The new level cap destroyed the stat scaling

[stuck sedge]

My only wishlist for destro : Legendary FUry with 20 sec intead of 10 😄

[sullen cape]

or give us back infinite extend on galeforce

[wanton spear]

I'd have thought of something like lancer, each last execute Crit hit reduces the CD

[sullen cape]

if we had infinite extend from silverfrost pt 1 on galeforce we could actually keep up with lancers almost

because on the 100% crit rate thunder strike i have almost the same dmg as similar geared dl

[unborn spruce]

I want books for Wrath with GM, for Cleave and Eradicate GM, and Perma Fury with CC immunity.

[sullen cape]

[late saddle]

LMAO

[delicate haven]

Gonna keep posting this till the end of times.

[lament grove]

Hi. I noticed that on the Korean servers top-3 destr are using a different build. Experts, could you please explain what the advantage is of replacing Eradicate with Cleave, and using Mighty Cleave instead of Galeforce?

[sullen cape]

Problem is kr destros are too lazy to use galeforce

That's the only reason why they don't use it

And my guess would be cleave is better for macro gameplay

Since with eradicate you have to play manual to get the maximum out of it

And only reason to use mighty cleave instead of galeforce would be msp imo makes the clear way better

In dungeons mighty cleave would be good for bleeding but besides that galeforce has a way higher dmg output

[lament grove]

Why is Eradicate bad for macro play?

LMB-RMB-RMB rotation?

[sullen cape]

You can't maintain that

You run out of focus if you do that constantly

That's why you need to alternate between lmb-rmb-rmb and lmb-rmb to build up focus again

I mean you could have 2 different macros and alternate between them mid fight

But tbh since the animation cancel is so easy on eradicate no need for it really

[lament grove]

As I understand it, that’s why the RMB second-tree build is considered a more lazy option that KR players use...

[sullen cape]

You just can hold lmb and press the rmbs into it

[lament grove]

ty for the answers

[sullen cape]

And some destroyer players hate the eradicate animation that's why some still prefer speed cleave

But eradicate is better for execute build

[sullen cape]

But there would be one case where the kr build would be superior to galeforce build

On a boss where they have 100% crit rate

It would be better

But since we are far away from that except in extremely low lvl content yeah no reason really

[lament grove]

Either it’s outdated content, or it requires crit rate numbers that are impossible for ordinary players to achieve

[sullen cape]

Or on the bugged thunder strike in the dawncrest region

That one is lvl 47 or something like that

There high gear players got 100% crit rate

[grizzled steeple]

bro i cantt belive

that many left?

[delicate haven]

Destros are in the IUCN red list of threatened species

[sullen cape]

[wanton spear]

We are the last remaining. Be strong brothers & sisters

[grim pasture]

Destroyers together strong

We don't know how to move on from our class

[sullen cape]

[grizzled steeple]

im staying destro just because i dont want to learn new class xd

way to lazy for that

[grim pasture]

Press X to stay

[delicate haven]

give me warden and im 1st to buy the swap tickets xD

[sullen cape]

i wish i knew sooner that 1 of my bm in my raid switches to lancer then i might have gone to bm

but welp did double swap to get my tradeable books out

[grim pasture]

Warden would be tempting but doubt they don't f*** up the class...the no focus and massive healing / costing hp to use skills doesnt fit in neo sadly

[delicate haven]

can u even sell books atm? ... 3 exes are on market for 2 weeks now xD

[sullen cape]

all gone

[delicate haven]

ah.

[late saddle]

surplus of books no players tho

time to go back

[late saddle]

Well thunders will have to wait

[sullen cape]

Legy E inc folks

From what i see 15 sec duration

And 80% crit dmg ?

Hmm tru

I guess rage not listed there

Ye

Maybe they still tweaking it

Imagine losing crit

Dunno if that's even good then

I guess once we would be close to reach 100% crit rate yeh

[sullen cape]

Would mean only 18 sec cooldown until next fury

But eh pls leave crit rate on it

If it was only crit dmg

We would be back to 24/7 gamba

Yeh would be weird

But we will find out soon anyway

[brisk oar]

before starting the game one of the two classes i wanted to play was warden

i might swap if it comes

why they nerf our e

our only reliable dmg resource

what will we do with cdmg or lifesteal bonuses with white exe numbers lol

[sullen cape]

Nah fury is not listed yet

It's only sin and kfm that's listed

Seems like only sin/kfm/bd/sum/dl is listed if i am not wrong

I guess the other classes still get tweaked or something

[jagged gull]

Bro i just left… what do you mean legy fury

[sullen cape]

Serves you right meta slave

[dim hull]

If fury becomes 15 seconds, you can do another Galefore so 15+4x4 = 31 seconds total

I hope that the 15 seconds and 80% crit damage increase buff is for our E

It would be about 30% damage increase based on my calculation

Still won’t reach the level of dl, wl, bd or kfm but that would be sufficient for me

[sullen cape]

Oh yeh true

Alone the 5 sec longer duration would be crazy ngl

[sullen cape]

Nah that's sadly the 2nd blue buff from kfm and sin

Destroyer fury not listed sadly

We sitting in the dark atm

[brisk oar]

if kfm gets a buff while the destroyer is still there, it shows that korean managers arent much different from ours

lets they cant be that stupid

[sullen cape]

We will get but they probably not sure what exactly

Probably testing around

I either hope for 5 sec longer duration

Or still the 10 seconds but with crit dmg% buff aswell

[late saddle]

If leg fury comes and they remove def debuff while at it its a start

Earth still dead tho

[sullen cape]

Earth will be dead until they realize mighty cleave shouldn't be a build up skill for execute

But they probably never will

Bcs avg nc class designer rn

Then it would work yeh

But at the end would be the same shiat like execute

But only single target this time

Temu lancer

[dim hull]

Seriously this could be our E with gm stacks

[sullen cape]

Nah

100% sure its kfm and sin

[dim hull]

18 gm: +2s buff duration
30 gm: +3s buff duration
48 gm: +80% crit damage during buff duration

Like cmon dev

Be smart

[sullen cape]

Because this the kfm crit dmg version

Sin got the same

[late saddle]

yeh earth simply needs to go focus back on lmb rmb otherwise if u center it on smash its just another execute with diff icon

make cleave gm, gm 48 being "consume 2 rage to deal 480% dmg" or something, and u (probably) solved the over-stacking with no consume from earth

and for the love of god buff wrath fk sake what is that crap hitting 2k for even in the game

[sullen cape]

Ah at this point i think they are just to stupid to balance anything or design classes properly

[late saddle]

ye thats for sure

[sullen cape]

Basically every class is broken compared to the live version

Neo got the temu version of live classes i swear

[dim hull]

Oh okayy I think I got it

The first 12 lines are only about sin and kfm blue buff

We live in the dark still

[sullen cape]

Sadly ye

[sullen cape]

Leaker destroyed the surprise

[late saddle]

Still no book rework

[sullen cape]

Ah fak it

If the leak is true

We got faked hard

[dim hull]

Bro wtf is this

ERF is 16 rage stacks already we don’t need 5 more from leggy E

I guess it works well for pvp

If pvp is still relevant

[sullen cape]

Yeh for pve completely useless

If i get sent to jail it's been a pleasure folks

https://tenor.com/view/ozon671games-ozon-gif-24681041

[dim hull]

You can now nuke the ncsoft hq for us destroyer

[sullen cape]

[wanton spear]

So, another useless leggy skill insight?

[sullen cape]

2/2 useless new legy skills

[wanton spear]

At least we can't get point on fury so the rolls on mushin soul core won't be affected

[sullen cape]

With a huge amount of copium

They surely are still working on the skill right

It will get better for sure

[late saddle]

Lmfao took the combining both idea and botched in the worst way possible

[sullen cape]

[late saddle]

Cmon bro

[sullen cape]

I guess best thing i can do at this point is quiting ngl

[late saddle]

U laughed at RK and dip…

[sullen cape]

I mean would be smartest thing ngl

The future of the game ain't looking bright atm

The only copium i have atm is the skillsytem change