Well Searing Slash is getting updated
#Blade Master
winged reef
odd dagger
so searing 18 gm was a replace than addition
wraith sage
so fire build is skipped again , lol
regal trail
didn't you say badge update?
astral tendon
Itās there in kr a while ago
regal trail
rip na
astral tendon
I mean I donāt work in nc idk what exactly they will include in this patch, judging by when kr got it at least the wave for bm changes should be in there
But you never know
Cos the bm change was not long after we get sf and our sf patch included a lot of stuff that was not in the initial kr sf release
wraith sage
ppl said gm for DT
i don't think DT will get GM , not in 3 or more next patchs
astral tendon
JP patch notes has skill changes
Link?
for some reason I can read Japanese, want to have a look
astral tendon
Dt gm tds gm, and hs buff are all there
Only bm and kfm change
Fm changes are not there
winged reef
0.2 on the skill modifier and 20% on badge
regal trail
But it doesnāt show on notes
winged reef
It just says damage increased
winged reef
Doesnāt matter anyway what the patch notes say, itās just going to be what it was for KR on September 3rd
astral tendon
Scared soul badge damage increase for puncture and slasher, the first idk what the fck it is
regal trail
They got me reading Japanese before GTA 6
astral tendon
is easy
winged reef
Google translate is a thing you know
regal trail
Itās 1:00am
I aināt finna pull no translate out
@astral tendon
So dt is getting gm ?
honest haven
so searing 18 gm was a replace than addition
wdym? it replaced the original buff?
odd dagger
wdym? it replaced the original buff?
according to whats written in patch, previous one replaced whatever u had with 25% if u had GM 18
now it will add 25% additional
honest haven
oh so it wsa bugged before?
cuz it made no sense for me that leggy book has no effect on 18 gm then
but if it wasnt intended it makes sense
astral tendon
It sort of works that way
Like stone slash
If you somehow get to 30 gm with purple
Is 10 sec bd
You get to 30 with leg is still 10 sec bd
Even tho leg already gives 6
so in their mind, itās always replace
honest haven
stone slash makes sense cuz the number 10 is higher than 6
I figured searing has a different functionality cuz 25% = 25% š
tawdry yacht
š¤
astral tendon
gl selling guys
donāt care about purple anymore
Just need 4 more legs to replace the blue
odd dagger
twin lark
Nice, soul core won't have a delay anymore
honest haven
failing the 70% weapon upgrade 
will lab carry me if you can ever be a thing again
loud hinge
<:kekw:1009394634692247632> will lab carry me if you can ever be a thing again
Youuuu bā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦east
hearty ether
<:kekw:1009394634692247632> will lab carry me if you can ever be a thing again
are u enjoying hs over punct?
astral tendon
are u enjoying hs over punct?
is pretty brain dead and certainly allows you to do something puncture canāt do
or canāt do efficiently
Tho tbh
Is in a sense, harder to play than puncture
Iām surprised that puncture is still the most brain dead build for bm
hidden pawn
Iām surprised that puncture is still the most brain dead build for bm
Huh is it i feel like just right clicking much better than multiple skill macro
astral tendon
If you think about it
Is the same
You are holding 1 button
Tho good thing about hs is you wonāt need to worry about puncture dc
And hs actually need to manage max boost
When puncture doesnāt have to
hearty ether
is pretty brain dead and certainly allows you to do something puncture canāt do
i guess it being ranged + aoe at that lvl makes it worth & different to play
fickle vortex
Need yeti member š
honest haven
Somehow my supreme force barely moved after getting like 10% increase on dt and 0-48 GM
But I def hit much harder
odd dagger
well sf is only based on gear and book, not on the dmg or gm bonus.
honest haven
Oh
twin lark
is it just me or using V and any other bottom bar skill after V makes the game micro stutter?
nvm went back to char screen and it's fixed now
honest haven
where is the new 70 msp spawn?
honest haven
no but fire and lightning got gms I believe, at least I got on fire
honest haven
havent tested dps but max hit yday with/without heat buff: 42k / 38k. Today: 56k/49k
so yeah nice increase, but I still think hybrid is best for aoe not sure yet
I do 2.5 dt per sec and 2 dt/hybrid per sec, but pure fire is stacked hybrid isnt
gotta do some multis but friend afk
winged reef
Gonna see lightning now when I log in
twin lark
I don't see a difference tbh
honest haven
I don't see a difference tbh
dont see a difference in what?
valid cradle
well sf is only based on gear and book, not on the dmg or gm bonus.
Gm bonus = books š¤
It just doesnt care if you put the wrong books in
twin lark
dont see a difference in what?
dmg
gilded thistle
lightning op
twin lark
This 105% badge feels the same as before, i don't see any increase
honest haven
for puncture I guess its not a huge increase but I thought u were draw stance
additional dmg isnt that great itself
twin lark
Nah, i'd never go back to draw ever again, even if it gets a 10 trillion dmg buff
winged reef
Before
After
Look how smoother that line is, and I don't even have leggy StoneSlash
Easy 100k+ with better rotation/ping, this was kinda messy
odd dagger
massive stonks
odd dagger
all the coping paid off for ted
regal trail
Gm for fire is rubbis
Also lighting still sucks
@astral tendon is correct Bm is so useless
twin lark
Bm is useless cause no threat
But then again, tanking on neo is pretty much super easy mode now
There's no point on having a tank class
+no mechs
gilded thistle
Its okay, we carried on moonwater patch
now its the rest of the classes turn to carry us
honest haven
old
ss badge hybrid: 51k iruga, 61k gen
**new **
ss badge hybrid: 51k iruga, 69k gen
pure dt: 63k iruga, 58k gen
pure dt (+summoner): 67/73k iruga (?)
ss badge (+summoner): 67k/75k gen
so I guess I gotta switch between ss badge and dt badge depending on 2 bosses or 1
welp
twin lark
Tbh i didn't see any increase with this new badge even with 105% i still hit 50k on ken
No sum
honest haven
I think going from 45% to 80% on dt I went from 3.5k additional dmg to like 6k+
so maybe 2k increase for u depending on ap scaling
for the skill
twin lark
Man i should have sold all the gold i've spent on that fcking badge, would have bought 2 purp punct already and that would make me hit more than 2k
winged reef
Stone slash when?
Iād rather get leggy tds now tbh
odd dagger
the badge in vaccum is more than 10% for purple and slightly lower than 10% for leggy
formal ermine
@cosmic oak can u help to request a update to BM skill Pierce? All attacks skill have bonus for Skill GMs, but Pierce no. OR, maybe end Pierce and convert to Puncture. Bcuz why One skill didnt receive the update of damage bonus?
astral tendon
is it 10%.
is +0,2 from badghe
and leg got +0.2
so is not 5.9+0.6 for leg instead of 5.7+0.4
Pierce doesnt have gm in kr either
odd dagger
is it 10%.
The actual badge increase from getting sf badge than not having it.
Since puncture alr 55% it's like 6% dps increase going to sf.
formal ermine
Pierce doesnt have gm in kr either
and? what need to change? rs
formal ermine
Rownen don't do balancing
she is the voice of the people
wooden rain
voice of the people kekw
CMs are punching bags for people to direct their anger at when the company sucks
or shock absorbers
odd dagger
we have too many delulu people in eu/na still that think nca can change anything
gilded thistle
odd dagger
best he can do is get u an extra blue selector
astral tendon
No change will come from the west
We are not cn, where they have the ability to self push stuff through
For better of for worse, they can do it at least
cn Neo is adding a 100 weekly dungeons limit
So if you do more than 100 even with blessing you wonāt get reward
astral tendon
not really cos by finishing up blessing you are already doing 7-9 dungeons, and apperently, runs without belssing also count
so after blue train, we are looking at 10-12 dungeon a day by default.
you have a few extra, but basically blessing pot is sort of useless
winged reef
Thatās CN though
Donāt they have an option to use up all blessing with a single dungeon for better rewards
storm swallow
https://i.imgur.com/EGRYl60.png
https://i.imgur.com/tkcgTW0.png
all the whales are equipped, do they really think that the casuals have the DG to buy them?
honest haven
wonder how many lightning in top 10 wb today
I have a feeling there are some sleepers under top 10
dt as well
but unles leggy it wont crack top 1 I think
for lightning idk
winged reef
Thereās one guy with leggy tds, better gear than me overall
finite ridge
am i tripping xD or lunar level 70 actually gives lesser EXP than 60 ?
valid cradle
Thats true until lv70
finite ridge
okaaaay, so i have to be level 70 to farm 70 thats nice š
finite ridge
waiting Nanaya to show us the updated loot from WB š
fickle salmon
still even after patch, legy tds < purple punc & hs 
astral tendon
patch day and ppl doing more damage.
winged reef
At least 1 guy is lightning in top 10
astral tendon
he has leg tds tho
winged reef
Plenty people in top 10 that have legendary too
Plus you still need Stone Slash or youāre missing out on 6-10s of bd
astral tendon
123569 have leg book
fickle salmon
Plus you still need Stone Slash or youāre missing out on 6-10s of bd
tbh i think instead of stone slash i would put another tds in, with searing slash you upgrade 3s bd and get def down, feels really smooth (and dont need legy)
winged reef
tbh i think instead of stone slash i would put another tds in, with searing slas...
If you donāt have leggy it might be worth it but youāll be missing on some extra crit rate and damage
fickle salmon
yeah but if you dont have 100gm you get alot more stacks, tds is like 80+% of the dps
after 100gm its probably better
astral tendon
the point is 6 seconds bd maybe be better than 18 stacks, but need to do calculations
winged reef
It shouldnāt change much anyway, so Iād rather stick to stone
winged reef
6s bd means better synergy with tab/raid for damage and focus management
fickle salmon
and you have tab up faster with the searing update, i can do tab - searing - tab and get 8-9~s bd
honest haven
tab still feels slow to me š
twin lark
You sure punct badge is working correctly? my dmg is pretty much the same
makes no sense
and don't tell me i gotta be 18k sf
honest haven
unless you got numbers to prove it didnt change idk what to tell ya
its pretty easy to see how much u gain from a badge
I think the greatest mystery is that there hasnt been a dt in market for weeks including today, so where are they? š¤
I figured someone was holding to sell after buff but doesnt seem like it
astral tendon
just no dt
i mean no any books pretty much
48 dt apperently is playable now
Riven back to top 5
twin lark
Why do you guys reroll? all builds will eventually get a buff and then nerfed again, this is nothing new, stick to your build, it'll be your time to be top dmg at some point
honest haven
I've never rerolled, I've just been noticing every other spec has several books up, at least one a day except for dt
which confuses me because its probably still worse than pierce
and people are swimming in pierce books
so either someone is buying them all and not using them or idk where they're disappearing to cuz I never see a dt player
dapper ember
twin lark
twin lark
unless you got numbers to prove it didnt change idk what to tell ya
Didn't do a parse before badge
But i still see the same numbers per hit
rapid jolt
twin lark
Mind sharing that crit det?
rapid jolt
Mind sharing that crit det?
I did not equip, need 20g to extract
twin lark
What are you talking about?
rapid jolt
sorry, I misunderstand what you said
twin lark
honest haven
Grats!
fickle salmon
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M9eblj7QgOM , isnt it for like 11s? might be better than stone?
astral tendon
is only better for 1 specific dungeon
lair while you are under level 76
everything else is stone slash clear, at least for hs
also even for that 1 specifc dungeon, is only better for the team
yourself? since the extreme lacking of crit rate, is not really that much better. the crit rate and crit damage buff from stone works the same way
as the def reduction from searing
50% def reduction wont means that much in stuff like nexus, also yeti once you are lv74/75
and is useless to flex damage on wb
a lot of kr bm went for it because bm dps is in such a sh!t place
they wont get a team if they do not bring in extra utlity
so they take searing
is not like it increase their own dps
they are sacrificing dps for job security .
gilded thistle
A bit of support to compensate for the lack of high dps is not bad though
astral tendon
for other build to fully utlise it you need 2 leg for 30 stacks tho
gilded thistle
mhm
astral tendon
i mean fire can sit with 1 for the heat buff
1 leg and 1 purple for the def, they dont need the focus from 30, puncture and hs sort of needs it
ligthning idk
maybe maybe not
hidden pawn
Make BMs great again
odd mantle
the def shred is worthless when you outlevel it?
dapper ember
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wraith sage
so either someone is buying them all and not using them or idk where they're dis...
Im a DT player i bay 4 DT this month last one yesterday , the price go from 4k to 7k from the first SF patch to naw , i also have 2 friends both are better DT player then me , but all of ass are not in the EU top 10 , im lvl 63 rank 19 in the last WB the 2 other are lvl 64 and lvl 66 and both of them got at list 2 DT this last month . so totale of 8 Purp DT sold from first SF patch to yesterday .
honest haven
Im a DT player i bay 4 DT this month last one yesterday , the price go from 4k t...
its weird tho I've never seen a dt listed any time I'm logged in lol
I guess u guys buy through dms
wraith sage
I guess u guys buy through dms
no and yes , in fact 2 some clan mate bay 2 of them wen they show up in the HV and then put them on the HV wen i was online , i mayself bay 1 for a friend hou need one , and wen his was online i put the DT in the HV , we loose some extra DG like that , but we help ich other to get the deal fast .
honest haven
thats nice
tbh I dont rly need more dts rn, but I'm just surprised I never see any
I gotta upgrade gear more atm
wraith sage
you need a leg DT , i see you tanking zone boss in MSP you deserv one
honest haven
yeah same, tho I feel like there are still a lot of low geared dt players somehow
analog yarrow
Dt playeršš»āāļø
grand forge
my clan on na has 3 dt players well one qui before buffs rip in piece š
winged reef
Almost 100k
silk beacon
Whale
winged reef
Iām not fat
wraith sage
and the soul badge still lvl 9 š©
odd dagger
Atleast it's 9
analog yarrow
im not surprised
winged reef
analog yarrow
Anyone feel any difference after patch with Sacred mystic badge? For me i felt the same.
winged reef
It removed the condition of needing Black Dragon to reduce tab cd with rmb
Although the tooltip still says it neess BD, but itās wrong
It doesnāt do much for fire but itās huge for lightning
wraith sage
oh Yep , for fire is nothing , bc you need the BD all time up to spam your rmb but for light is go light .
analog yarrow
Ty for the info!
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twin lark
Just wait on tencent to buy nc
gilded thistle
gilded thistle
It's a bit sad, you can maybe compensate for that with enough gm but thats too expensive
gilded thistle
10kish?
honest haven
yea definitely the worst of the bms
I use ss badge for msp and hybrid
I think my ES does around that dmg alone
twin lark
give punc aoe, 1x2 at least
honest haven
š
gilded thistle
honest haven
if DT isnt getting aoe I cant see puncture getting it
twin lark
Well, dt is trash so
honest haven
exactly
twin lark
exactly
honest haven
why would puncture get it first reee
twin lark
why would they give dt aoe when it sucks?
honest haven
I mean it doesnt really suck anymore
twin lark
Isn't it the lowest build?
honest haven
top 3 wb is dt now
honest haven
the jump from purple to leggy dt is huge
honest haven
like we both use unintended builds for aoe rn
iirc lmb tab spamming wasnt intentional for puncture
and hybrid as well
now they've phased out the need for hybrid
at least once u reach leggy level
dry bane
I am still using hybrid for MSP
honest haven
oh its still better than holding rmb?
I figured since 70 msp mobs have so much hp the dt will be more efficient to stack
dry bane
Just feels better doing bigger pulls and chipping them down instead of running around killing mob by mob
frank oxide
The sacred badge does not buff sunstroke anymore right? So its good to keep the xp badge on virtuous?
honest haven
It doesnāt so I got a ss xp badge for msp and also garden farming
honest haven
Just feels better doing bigger pulls and chipping them down instead of running a...
Yeah probably nicer at higher level too tbh
winged reef
gilded thistle
twin lark
WTB PUNCTURE 3K NA
astral tendon
Yeah probably nicer at higher level too tbh
Lv 70 area would be pretty painful for puncture
Donāt think I can farm it if Iām still single target
Tab wonāt do sh1t
twin lark
wooden rain
if only you could change specs whenever you wanted
seems like such a natural idea, i wonder why ncsoft didn't think of that
astral tendon
seems like such a natural idea, i wonder why ncsoft didn't think of that
If they want to keep the money from the books, allowing ppl to change skill books within the same tree with a fee would be nice, like puncture to slasher or pierce, but ofc it will never be added cos that makes ppl get core book easier
hidden pawn
If they want to keep the money from the books, allowing ppl to change skill book...
It doesnt matter most will quit anyways
hybrid willow
Lv 70 area would be pretty painful for puncture
i farm it its ok
winged reef
Puncture users complaining, gives me life
gilded thistle
gilded thistle
Riven pumping
rapid jolt
maybe itās for the wb at night?
analog yarrow
How does the uodated gm effects feel
Like around 30% dmg increase for me. 60 GM same stats before and after patch
somber kiln
Like around 30% dmg increase for me. 60 GM same stats before and after patch
I see
Feels worth now?
analog yarrow
its still not the highest dmg build among all BM builds, but for me, its okay. Dmg is not that ass after patch
twin lark
Puncture users complaining, gives me life
odd dagger
Puncture users complaining, gives me life
circle of life
we hs and tds users suffered in mw but investments paid off
didnt know that blade storm actually hit decently hard.
winged reef
Doesnāt show up on the meter so overall not very much
odd dagger
it does show
oh ingame one with limited skills
ya its just some free dmg
since every time i use stone slash i use that
so its like free 9k on top of stone
winged reef
Yea that one, and I was using points in it cause I thought the same
But with the abundance of skill points at lvl 80 might as well put points into it
odd dagger
HS has unlimited points to spend on trash skills
winged reef
Guess so lol
I put mine into Vortex Wave cause I have nothing better to put them into
odd dagger
0.5% , we take those
winged reef
400 dps, huge gains
winged reef
Does it life drain? I donāt remember seeing life drain ticks when I use it
odd dagger
oh it doesnt?
thought everything lifedrained
ya doesnt seem it does
oh wait , i cant lifesteal on dummy
i need to test on sth else
winged reef
I think only thing that gets life drain from multi hit skills is things that are dot like 4 and Rod
Just take some fall damage in mushin
winged reef
Ah I was talking about the mini hits
twin lark
Guys, timing for punct is always for example lmb 10ms tab 15ms rmb 20 ms?
or 20 15 10
or all the same number?
Cause i might be using macro wrong this whole time
twin wren
twin wren
desperate
odd dagger
we love 20% chance
odd dagger
i expected this so im not really surprised
atleast i will get real badge when i get SF
sweet gull
WTS EU
gilded thistle
twin wren
twin lark
Did you just make a video about blocking orbs?
I know BNS general IQ is low af, since we all play it, but this is taking it too far
bronze seal
newbie here, does this apply to puncture? would this be my choose for mystic badge?
bronze seal
kk thank you
odd dagger
doesnt closest guy get marked for fire swords in fire phase, so shouldnt really go close.
though most people dont know that BM can veil for asura.
twin wren
Yeah
I do that too when i'm not blocking incase I get a blurr FM
Yes the closest guy would get the marker but if u r quick on your feet it should be fine. Like skills that give movement speed
I remember summoners managing to grab it
fully pitying every piece eq
twin wren
that would be great
odd dagger
its not bugged , it jst doesnt give exp before u are lv 70
twin wren
but i asked a lvl 72 guy and he gets lesser than what i get from lvl 60 mobs
and some people also give the same answer as u
azure moth
is there anyway to farm mystic badge frag ?
odd dagger
only in 6v6 iirc
honest haven
but i asked a lvl 72 guy and he gets lesser than what i get from lvl 60 mobs
I think once u hit 70 the exp from 60 mobs go down below the exp u get from 70 mobs while 70 mobs exp remains, so it becomes more worth farming those at that point than 60
valid cradle
Depends how fast you can kill stuff
Im nowhere near that point
But I would guess that lv73 is when the 70 zone becomes better
valid cradle
so the actual exp doesnt get better?
Yeah
odd dagger
being less exp than lv 60 mobs by default when u need 10x the exp
and like twice as hard
valid cradle
Gotta farm dungeons at that point I guess
honest haven
so the actual exp doesnt get better?
astral tendon
At some point nexus lower becomes better for exp
odd dagger
need to hit that 65 before trying nexus
valid cradle
Level difference is very painful on nexus
gilded thistle
Atrocious leveling penalty
astral tendon
at least once you are 3 levels above is sort of soft capped
valid cradle
Though every level up definetly did gave a noticeable damage increase
astral tendon
I donāt see meaningful damage increase on nexus anymore
valid cradle
<:pepehehe:282540143892758529> at least once you are 3 levels above is sort of s...
Time to get lv79 for lair
astral tendon
After 70
valid cradle
gilded thistle
Why stop at 79, lets go all the way to 80
astral tendon
pretty sure kr already have 78?
gilded thistle
valid cradle
EU fms all quit before 75 š
valid cradle
Oof
gilded thistle
valid cradle
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astral tendon
sadly class change wonāt be a thing in Neo
Else Iāll reroll to the holy wicked twin dragon and carry the hommies
gilded thistle
They don't have to change stuff, they just need to give more to the players
valid cradle
F5 your way to the class change
valid cradle
Any day we'll get good events
odd dagger
its kinda so hard for them to make new release hype
astral tendon
tbh the only way to properly reroll to fm now is if wicked quit and sell all his stuff
odd dagger
when its almost impossible to switch class cause of level c ucking
gilded thistle
With enough hourglasses you can grind it back
valid cradle
Soulfighter release will be the biggest hype
gilded thistle
Especially from BM to FM its gonna be cakewalk
astral tendon
not really
I donāt think wtd farm faster than me
If I decide to farm
Or at least not a lot faster
gilded thistle
not if u were slasher
Im tempted to reroll but where books
astral tendon
Fm pull mobs better for sure
gilded thistle
odd dagger
gamble it up
odd dagger
or go lightning , also big aoe
hybrid willow
why
gilded thistle
i get dced usually
gilded thistle
and then i see Nanaya taking a walk in the fight slasing left and right
hybrid willow
yep
gilded thistle
astral tendon
but <@120136184906121216> with 1 leg hs same dps than punc ?
Well I start to do around the same at 110 ish stacks
Vs 78 puncture
1 leg and 16 purple put you at 108 I think
But I also had stone slash when Iām at 110 ish
Also purple flock is a good qol to have so realistically is 1 leg and 15 purple, so 102
In the end is about the same, assuming you somehow get 15-16 purple hs
gilded thistle
Right
astral tendon
idk if it is possible or not without someone quit
I didnāt manage to get more than 5 purple hs
And I scammed chifu for 1 of them
gilded thistle
Its okay, we just need to reach 192gm and 29k SF and we'll be able to solo yeti
hidden pawn
<:pepehehe:282540143892758529> tbh the only way to properly reroll to fm now is ...
On NA many quit last week could have had full gold books
dapper ember
Yep, this game just lacks support thats only reason why im leaving
Its just not much freedom if we''re not playing KR
regal trail
WTS HEROIC HEAVENLY SLASHER PM ME
odd dagger
winged reef
New path is better they said, chances are higher they said
gilded thistle
It's the BM curse
odd dagger
this is what peak performance looks like
gilded thistle
Must be the build. Wanna swap? 
odd dagger
odd dagger
<:icon_energy:1198683672468004976>
3 tap +10
rng takes and rng gives, faith restored.
gilded thistle
naisu :3
astral tendon
Gg
vernal dust
did anyone do a direct comparison fire purple books vs light purple books now that both buffed?
whole scaffold
Bumping #š¬ļø±neo-chat message
grave hawk
did anyone do a direct comparison fire purple books vs light purple books now th...
Think its 20%-40% increase for most
odd dagger
where are u in top 10
kinda weird that the only lightning bm with a leggy is so low in ranking
i expected more damage from his stat
winged reef
On Naksun itās like a 100% increase for me because of the focus and stance management
fickle salmon
vagrant basin
@twin wren ..
astral tendon
Itās alright now
astral tendon
dummy damage should be comparable to puncture now
Assuming you have 2 leg books
Purple is alright, but not that close to puncture
fickle salmon
purple should not even be remotely close to punc dps
astral tendon
Not as sh1t as back in the days
Is probably 80-90% now when in the past is 50%
Of puncture damage
odd dagger
i think tds is just on par with DT
iirc ted did only 98k with his gear on dummy?
my HS is like 115k rn
and hes more geared than me
prolly need both stone and tds leggy to get decent
fickle salmon
prolly need both stone and tds leggy to get decent
stone not really needed but legy tds is extreme dps boost like on dt, on purple the dps is still a joke
also you need the sacred badge
astral tendon
Iām not sure about that
Double leg lightning has the highest theoretical dps for bm with 2 leg books
Stone is definitely needed
As far as kr goes, it hits higher on dummy compare to both puncture and slasher
with perfect rotation and bd up time
But then how much of those will remain in fight is another story
dapper ember
Itās not trash š
It beats HS in purples
Or evenly
48 GM
Single targets vs multi targets op
winged reef
prolly need both stone and tds leggy to get decent
A fair comparison would be 30 stacks of Stone Slash for that 10s of bd
If I had that extra bd uptime I could easily get +20k dps
And yea leggy tds is also a pretty big boost in ap modifier
Also benefits more from stacking than puncture
hybrid willow
@astral tendon dont think puncture is the best for raid ? with 3level diff
astral tendon
depends on how much crit they are getting tmr
if everyone is hitting sub 30% crit then maybe
then that basically means only kfm and ligthning bd get to play the game so i doubt about that
close to 50% puncture wont be that much better, slightly for sure
past 50 puncture just goes back to the dirt .
also gl tanking Raven king with puncture without dc..
unless they fix that
you are literally forced to walk around
well or the rest walk around
odd dagger
if everyone is hitting sub 30% crit then maybe
with that low crit, wont u suffer from not even proccing puncture?
gilded thistle
We won't be going in there for quite some time so don't worry about it yet. Just keep grinding
silk beacon
just msp harder
gilded thistle
Levels alone won't cut it 
astral tendon
idk, with ultra high speed farming youy probably get 100g in like what, an hour and half with average luck
astral tendon
with that low crit, wont u suffer from not even proccing puncture?
puncture would be fine ish due to 25% in build crit rate, also most puncture ppl using the macro that only cast puncture when either of your lmb/tab crits anyway
it would be massive if you only get to crit 30-40% from your gear without skill bonus. But then if thats the case
lightning bd will be through the roof
followed by probably kfm
tho mostly ligthning bd
they have the number in their favor, kfm, although can have 100% crit rate, the skill multiper and stacking potential are just not there
odd mantle
@modern geode pls donate me a puncture T_T
loud hinge
Is any puncture player having the same issue as my issue? After holding macro 3s, itās getting sticky and constantly press rmb even though i released the button. I was using the same macro, same values before update
My dps on upper boss drop from 38k to 26k. Iruga from 102k to 72k
gilded thistle
Did your ms change?
odd dagger
xdd
loud hinge
Iām telling you. The only thing goes down is my dps
coarse sun
hi, has anyone played heavenly slasher below 48GM and/or can say if its very annoying focus wise please?
odd dagger
i wont say its so annoying but u would need a soaring falcon along with purple flock
winged reef
What boss
odd dagger
upper nexus
gilded thistle
I think you need some levels :3
odd dagger
trying my best
gilded thistle
loud hinge
@gilded thistle are you punct?
odd dagger
he is
astral tendon
whale š³ puncture player btw
loud hinge
copper pine
wtb purple punctures 3k-3.5k
gilded thistle
silk beacon
gilded thistle
silk beacon
arent u tired of those 2 leggy stone slash chifusas
maybe u should think of let them go to another bm
gilded thistle
Well, I was considering taking them off but not to sell. Maybe give them a more orange ish color
But first I am trying for a third
twin wren
gilded thistle
Probably but need to be a team player since they decided to make leggy puncture far more inferior to the other classes legendaries
Seeing a 48gm purple execute destro outdps me by 20k is depressing
twin wren
silk beacon
ye bm is bad class in neo dpswise
twin wren
How they do that
odd dagger
I mean do u even need 30 stone slash, isn't it kinda waste of a leggy for puncture.
Since it doesn't care about bdr and dmg increase is kinda irrelevent in the big picture.
Not sure even 18 is worth it either, 5% crit dmg boost across the 36 seconds.
Compared to like 10% dmg boost to punctures.
gilded thistle
Surely, im just waiting for inspiration to swipe and start rerolling them
need to feel it otherwise i'll keep rolling DTs like Nanaya 
astral tendon
Iād have 20 dt by now if I kept all dts I got lol
astral tendon
Tbh lightning seems pretty fun
gilded thistle
fickle salmon
wts pmo
worn rapids
is it wise to get all mantra into threat? if u want to tank as bm
how it calculated on dps?
like if 50% threat and 10kdps, 10k x50%?
astral tendon
Donāt think it is worth it at any point, Neo dungeon do not require tank to do anything
Other than maybe des, all other class can tank fairly comfortably
worn rapids
got it
wraith sage
so , we need a huge buff for all BM build , but the only ones hou can push to this changes is the Kr player base , not EU not NA not global ! so we are co-ocked , Kr player base will never understand the need for that , they simply whait for Aion 2 !!!
astral tendon
every class is sh1t compared to fm and des
And if you exclude those 2, every class is sh1t compared to sum and bd
The other 4, ie bm wl kfm and sin are sort of similar in terms of dps
main inlet
astral tendon
And tbh, bm is one of the better one in these 4
winged reef
They chatgpt their class balance
gilded thistle
I would not be surprised
astral tendon
Watching 25k force team barely have enough damage for bt boss 1 is pretty depressing
is this the time to call it
crude dock
I don't even see how robots and raven king will be possible if whales of that caliber are having that much trouble with meganura
winged reef
The stream I watched was at 22.8k force
astral tendon
Well tbf they only have 3 dps class, the other 9 are crap
winged reef
But they seemed to have max legendary gear
astral tendon
So I guess understandable
winged reef
So idk what else they could upgrade
hybrid willow
tell me how i can get more (cant do 100k to get s offense)
like
rank of other people in party count or what
astral tendon
idk, just get SS in offense
the tank grab damage count as damage taken is a bit bullsh1t
š©
astral tendon
then not sure
tbf only bm/bd rank have ppl grinding for it i think
2-5 were pretty close to each other
hybrid willow
yeah
astral tendon
yeah i know
someone mentioned you can use either taunt cat, thrall or another bm with war cry to bypass this..
taunt before grab
but idk if it is worth the hassle or not
gilded thistle
twin lark
Isn't it ironic that you get really strong in an online game just to play alone?
I know it's just to get more leggies, but we shouldn't be having to run dungeons alone for that. They really need to add other ways to get a leggy
With other ppl
odd dagger
u get strong in online game to flex on others
twin lark
Not really but ok
fickle salmon
yeah getting stronger makes no sense, u run the dungeon faster and play the game less
wooden rain
it makes perfect sense, you do chores so you can do chores faster
odd dagger
does sins have insane base crit dmg
really curious what truly contributes the most to SF
valid cradle
Accuracy should add more than crit dmg
valid cradle
I would guess the ap
odd dagger
š
valid cradle
Purples are at least somewhat affordable
Rolling the stats on my mantra stones was quite painful
Cant imagine how bad it was when you lost the stones
hidden pawn
<:pepehehe:282540143892758529> is this the time to call it
I mean gl finding 12 ppl with 25k force or higher in NA haha
astral tendon
is basically impossible in eu
id end up with 22, maybe 23k with some minor upgrade and lv75/76 but not possible to get more without more books.
and there are 6/7 players maximum around this level in eu
odd dagger
how much does the new collection give
astral tendon
almost 0
it adds up yeah, but it requires additioanl dup cards
so realistically you can only do green and blues
purple maybe
and stats from that are sh!t
worse than exploration journal and i dont think there are ap
gilded thistle
fickle salmon
22.8 was enough, easy 
odd dagger
does eu even have enough for 22.8k avg
gilded thistle
odd dagger
yall need to pump more and get 29k
fickle salmon
yeah we need to bait ppl to swipe for 30k sf
gilded thistle
11k to go
fickle salmon
hot korean woman will fall in love with you if you have 30k sf
gilded thistle
astral tendon
if we can assmble 6 23k ish fm/des/sum/litghning bd maybe 23k is enough
for boss 1
mostly fm and des
buoyant jewel
how many leggy hs is needed to make it better than 1 leggy puncture?
hearty ether
does any1 know why this is worse than virt than dt? or is this just a text error & what would the real value be?
twin lark
Error
analog yarrow
It is worse for DT, but it wont affect your rotation(-2s sunstroke cd vs -1.7 cd). So for stats improvement on the new badge(if you plan to evo it), then the new sacred mystic badge is better.
hearty ether
It is worse for DT, but it wont affect your rotation(-2s sunstroke cd vs -1.7 cd...
i see, thank u
odd dagger
i think the skills which give piercing gives more sf than ones that give def lol
switched my soul devourer to slasher blue and lost sf
astral tendon
luckily
leg book only give defence
so we are not inflated with SF
good game design
valid cradle
leg book only give defence
Some classes need that defense
astral tendon
i somehow got SS, while tanking
rapid jolt
@astral tendon do you mind share your f3 info
west gust
can someone tell me the badges for HS? i saw that there are no soul badge for HS
worn rapids
can someone tell me the badges for HS? i saw that there are no soul badge for HS
Sacred badge, the latest one, upgraded from virtues
odd dagger
u can use sunstroke with sunstroke badge till u get sf badge
astral tendon
<@120136184906121216> do you mind share your f3 info
odd dagger
finall less people in wb for once
gilded thistle
gilded thistle
HUH
astral tendon
Itās 1% share the same group with Mushin dark shadow
gilded thistle
Im guessing the purples come from silverfrost purple fuses?
odd dagger
its kinda annoying when the pool get diluted more
should jst let u select the fusion results u want
while keeping the original % but fewer selections
gilded thistle
Nah, this is NCsoft
odd dagger
true
grand forge
Ty for info
astral tendon
and according to kr dev is perfectly balanced
so yeah, just be more skilled
bm players suck at the game so even tho the game is perfectly balanced, you still do less damage
the 29k 192 stack puncture guy in kr use searing slash for def reduction instead of stone slash, and getting gapped by 21k wtd players in dps
depressing to watch
odd dagger
wraith sage
i add the 18 searing slash to mi build , this thing lower mi dps , but i keep it just to be carry-ed in nexus by HL players , so is will never help to catch this op classes dps , even if they make it 80% def reduction ,
odd dagger
man, got lucky with leggy chest but got jiwan sh it instead
odd dagger
1st loser.
lethal trellis
WTB purple puncture EU - pm
coarse sun
WTB purple heavenly slasher EU
astral tendon
<:autumnlife:1423352486005313687> 1st loser.
Tbh you are close, I almost missed the wb cos of time change
thin smelt
NA - Wts x7 purple DT pm me on here
twin lark
WTB PUNCTURE 3K NA
fleet moth
anyone have macro for puncture high ping?
odd dagger
high ping puncture , why not jst hs
twin wren
Purple HS prices used to be dirt cheap but not anymore.
odd dagger
skill issue for not investing in the right stocks
twin wren
Luckily I knew this was going to happen
I don't know how my friends plan to swap over without swiping
I never gave up on HS š
odd dagger
@astral tendon how are the icefalls fully visible in ur screen
astral tendon
Idk, graphics maybe
Also I donāt see where they land either
I just hmb it so you donāt need to know where they land
astral tendon
he did it twice
Your hmb should just be back up by the time of 2nd ice aoe
But if he use it twice in a row, idk maybe too many cc
never happened to me
odd dagger
there is a cheap badge in f5
odd dagger
thank god +1 to +9 is free
twin lark
If he one tapped all stages, that's a pretty good profit
odd dagger
its just some quitter badge
the chance of 1 tapping all stages is as low as hitting a leggy book in garden
astral tendon
canāt imagine bm badges still worth this much
Few kfm scare badges went below 4k
Cheapest was 2
lol
coarse sun
still WTB x3 heavenly slasher purples on EU >.>
twin lark
How much is this? NA
astral tendon
Trash price
silk beacon
a kebab worths more
astral tendon
Tbf yeah, a kebab is like fcking 7 quids here
azure moth
im thinking about replacing all skills other than rush and tds.
aiming for 18gm stone slash or stacking up more TDS ?
cause i have 2 new badges, feel like not using other skills in my rotation
dapper ember
why not keep soaring falcon and remove rush?
hybrid willow
copy "senso" build
silk beacon
ye the yellow thing included
azure moth
why not keep soaring falcon and remove rush?
With new mys badge, i barely on standard stance
dapper ember
yeah i can see
twin wren
yeah i can see
You are what build now?
dapper ember
@twin wren blue heavenly slasher soon 
little kite
Vortex Wawe purple price check?
coarse sun
trash price
odd dagger
which eu bm quit today
gilded thistle
uneven kernel
be brave BMs, soon we'll be usefull again 
uneven kernel
uneven kernel
twin wren
Stage 2 Anger. This chart is ridiculous
twin lark
???
twin lark
Why does it show headphones as if we had built in audio?
astral tendon
i didnt even do dailies or msp today
Probably me, I also didnāt msp today
But then to think of it
I donāt msp for half of the week
Iām practically quitting 4 days out of 7
gilded thistle
uneven kernel
<:pepehehe:282540143892758529> Iām practically quitting 4 days out of 7
quitting and still playing? xD
twin lark
Is block cyclone even worth keeping? i rarely use it