Dragontongue players stay strong together
#Blade Master
loud hinge
all dragontongue players compined do same dmg as Chifusa or Nanaya XDD
shut the ....
my top 3 opponent b4 merge was ranked 21st. I can tell where could i be 
sick bison
sell me purple pierces in EU people
don't be shy now
I know some of you have a book in storage
hearty ether
don't be shy now
tell ncsoft to make them tradable 1st
sick bison
astral tendon
so even na does not have whale bm
is 💩, no chance to compete unless you over gear by a lot and puncture is not 60gm
gilded thistle
sage tulip
gilded thistle
sage tulip
sage tulip
Do I dare reroll 2 stats on a legendary accessory
thats what i did w my weapon
bought cheap one w useless stats
2 tap cr
3 tap cdmg
and then i had 60% pity to awakened
and 100% pity to true
sage tulip
loud hinge
fk the rng 
sick bison
fallow wind
fk the rng <:gizaytroi:804415957145485374>
damn
winged reef
You just got pranked
gilded thistle
loud hinge
20% chance btw
A dude got 2 leg books at 2%. And i got none of purp at 20%
i was like
fallow wind
"sometimes"
loud hinge
Gambah is the only way to switch build rn. Punct build is extremely high demand rn
winged reef
Since I made a character on fishbelly before merge I’m getting those event rewards as well
Free purple book lol (It was HS)
lethal prairie
WTS EU
going on a 1.5 month break soonTM so I'm trying to sell my weapon, srs offers in my dms please
keep in mind that with silverforst you can reroll mantra for just a small gold cost :)
primal hound
bruh if i don't play wb perfectly i get knnocked from top 10 to 15 like instantly, rank 10-15 is like within .10% of dps
ytd i was rank 7 for like 80% of the fight then 1 hit knocked me instantly to 12 LOL
lethal prairie
I guess EU still has bit more variance, was pmuch a perfect fight for me yesterday, 67k dps (ingame meter)
astral tendon
Wait did the in game meter is back or something
thought qol removed it
I also got knocked twice yesterday
astral tendon
is not that much faster for me
Normally took us 3-4 mins now is what. Like 2 and half
gilded thistle
They should change it to bosses keep spawning for 10-20 minutes after death
As an event for the merge
But hey here's some xp charms you can't use and a bunch of clovers
valid cradle
Xp charms to encourage you to spend on another character
honest haven
Oh my FREAKING GOD! You guys!! We’re getting 10 clovers today 
astral tendon
Yeah, was massive, I saw it last night and was so excited that I can’t get into sleep
honest haven
At least you can rest easy, games saved 
gilded thistle
Pogu one more attempt at ssj3 hair
gilded thistle
Should be funny doing puncture rotation with that hair
rancid grove
ask for macro image of DRAGONTONGUE set with ping170, pls guys
sick bison
imagine not being a fishbelly warrior
bask in the glory of our catchup rewards
will surely get us on the level of other players on OG servers
honest haven
so kinda newbie question but is there a hotkey to change channel?
I hear if u press p and y u can change without cooldown but doesnt work for me
upbeat fossil
changing channels from the character page "P" has significantly lower cd, like 10-15secs iirc
^
spiral sky
fallow wind
lethal prairie
Wait did the in game meter is back or something
ingame meter never stopped working for me idk
winged reef
ingame meter never stopped working for me idk
Which version are you using, 3.0.0?
upbeat fossil
silver moth
oops
hearty ether
why does the flying look so similar to bns' lol
spiral sky
Wondering why 
nc...
hearty ether
gilded thistle
astral tendon
can some of them come to eu, gamble leg book, sell them to me for 50 then go back to na
fallow wind
What class has the most whales in your opinion ?
Summoner? force master?
Bd maybe ?
winged reef
Sins or FMs I’d say
somber kiln
What class has the most whales in your opinion ?
Fm definitely
In NA fms have the most legs
spiral sky
na is fms for sure
somber kiln
Yeah all of top 5 fms got leg ice rain I think
I only know one BD that has leg
IamDaBest or something
And its storm cleave
twin lark
Most ppl hate tanking. BM is for the brave
Ironically tank class can't tank, so they rather go for big pp dmg instead since no threat
astral tendon
50% of the reason i spend is to tank
spiral sky
taunt harder
spiral sky
that must be sarcasm
spiral sky
honest haven
that must be sarcasm
wdym my damage increased like 1.5 blue dt book
its crazyy
slowly catching up to puncture
spiral sky
whats ur ingame nick
honest haven
same as here
spiral sky
oh u in eu
honest timber
slowly catching up to puncture
beat me in the end 😭
hearty ether
EU whale avengers
winged reef
Nanaya needs Cinderlands carry
astral tendon
but then yeah Emraell is carrying me
rotund shell
Ironically tank class can't tank, so they rather go for big pp dmg instead since...
i had Threat on my Gear and was awsome man 😄 almost could hold aggro vs Kameyame
twin lark
i had Threat on my Gear and was awsome man 😄 almost could hold aggro vs Kameyam...
That's not how tank classes are supposed to be though
winged reef
In live you could do 1/3 of the damage and still tank
twin lark
^
In fact i remember 25 points on threat and my dmg was like 10k while others did 70 and i was able to tank
twin lark
Yeah
rotund shell
That's not how tank classes are supposed to be though
but it helped me to do more DMG as a Puncture Player
twin lark
but it helped me to do more DMG as a Puncture Player
How?
astral tendon
block and cyclone
twin lark
I actually lose dps when cyclone
winged reef
Cyclone/Vortex should do a lot more damage to compensate for blocking
twin lark
Every cyclone hit should deal the same dmg as punct
Cause making block deal dmg is kinda broken, would be abused in pvp
rotund shell
How?
you have to Block and Cyclone, ofc not every attack. you have to know what attacks to eat and what attacks to block for a perfect rota. learn the atacks that CC you, block them, and get hit sometime for perfect DPS
rotund shell
Hey guys any macro for fire?
hold RMB ?
astral tendon
pure fire just dont macro
whats the point right
well at worst you use a rmb and tab spamming one
vernal dust
idealy vortex wave + multislash purple is a great addition incase rotation stops like from a knockback or boss jump away
you use one of those to get rmb again and reset your tab without having to jump of a cliff
giga helpfull if you ask me
spiral sky
I actually lose dps when cyclone
just dont and wait for new badge
spiral sky
F uck ocr
lost like 3 days trying to implements new variables to try squeeze more juice, and in the end doesnt worked, need to switch to the original thing
twin lark
you have to Block and Cyclone, ofc not every attack. you have to know what attac...
Even doing that, you'll lose dps, there's no win/win
twin lark
just dont and wait for new badge
What new badge?
spiral sky
sf
winged reef
What build are we talking about
twin lark
Punct
woeful venture
now that gold price went down a bit
what its better for evolving?
paying extra gold
or extra trans stones?
woeful venture
no no
i mean
when that ticket was 2k
so each gold was worth 20 divine
now each gold is worth 15
loud hinge
18th 
bye prime chest
woeful venture
whenever i hear ncsoft being related to any game
it makes me wanna blown my brains out
twin lark
I'm jealous of bosses having actual mechs
If that's what it takes for NC to do it for BNS too, then release BNS 3 already
silver moth
it call bns neo classic
winged reef
Is there lightning bm in Aion
silver moth
twin lark
Even after merge, market still dry
Man, even playing range looks cool, unlike BNS where they basically just stand there like tards
twin lark
First mistake was using purple
vivid robin
i get this when opening purple
jesus, i'd just reinstall purple at that point
gilded thistle
honest timber
purple blade call worth anything?
honest haven
got the same purple on my bm alt as my main at 50, scarlet breeze
impressive
at least I got 10 clovers
honest timber
at least I got 10 clovers
aren't you happy you got half the clovers needed to try for a 25% chance of getting an ugly haircut/outfit?
like what more could you want
upbeat fossil
1 week to get through all results, it’s almost as if they half assed it
Which is still half an ass more than they did on anything else
winged reef
A beauty 
(just like the character and build)
gilded thistle
beautiful
coarse sun
A beauty <:bns_blush:1198525068007981156> (just like the character and build)
i expect you to carry lab later today then
winged reef
i expect you to carry lab later today then
Surely this 6 extra ap will make me tank Fuijin better
rotund shell
Even doing that, you'll lose dps, there's no win/win
ofc there is dmg, do you know how Puncture works ?
spiral sky
Surely this 6 extra ap will make me tank Fuijin better<:bns_nervous:119852506898...
To tank you need to be top dps
winged reef
To tank you need to be top dps
Maybe I am
Or you can also let someone build some damage
twin lark
ofc there is dmg, do you know how Puncture works ?
No, I play sum
rotund shell
No, I play sum
thought so
winged reef
We both know it
If I don’t use the meter I’m always top dps
sage tulip
if you can manage your focus with puncture without using cyclone its always more dps
but youd need sum and some crazy stats ig
astral tendon
2 sum that actively trying to fill you up is all you need
You can hit the whole time without cyclone
sage tulip
majority of sums also dont bother with that so
winged reef
I’m only 20 purple fragments away from my leggy stone
gilded thistle
honest haven
aren't you happy you got half the clovers needed to try for a 25% chance of gett...
I really wonder whose brilliant idea it was to add this demonic feature to a free event
twin lark
A guy In general chat said inb4 50% chance to get 1k to 4k dgs when spending 50 euros and i can see that being a thing. Promoting that person to CEO for sure, let always the bad ideas that destroy your game rain
wooden rain
nah they'll start selling gems without the delay for a higher price
limpid blaze
RNG gem hold time when 
gilded thistle
legendary dungon giving worse loot then bbr
It's fine, 5 more potions to go
then daily blessing and dip
twin lark
NC did it again, TW version is superior to KR, why the fck is that? who knows but one thing is certain, NC KR hates players to the core
https://youtu.be/4uGSs62nR4A
Is this gonna be the new meta? releasing a different MMO with the same name for all regions?
winged reef
Yura hair?
twin lark
I'd tell you but i don't even know who Yura is
Idk nothing about this game's story
I skipped every cutscene
winged reef
You don’t know who Yura is, the ultimate bns gooning character?
twin lark
I know zulia though big tatas
I've been playing this since china's obt and i know nothing
winged reef
twin lark
Hmmm i think that's the one
Is that the only long one?
Got it
Let's hope it's not trash
winged reef
Probably a flash step
spiral sky
twin lark
Transmuted 20 greens and got 20 greens, this sht is rigged
somber kiln
Transmuted 20 greens and got 20 greens, this sht is rigged
its working as intended
twin lark
https://tenor.com/view/disney-sword-in-the-stone-sir-ector-black-magic-worst-gif-7197865634276241389
Call me crazy but every time i play with ppl that i know are from Asia, my ping goes to 160 and i know it's a fact cause it happens a lot
spiral sky
gilded thistle
somber kiln
who spilled the beans
twin lark
Isn't that build getting a buff? i might actually switch
Would be nice to have aoe dmg for once
primal hound
would be nice but swapping is just so expensive
its going to make msp so much easily to farm
plus the skill sounds cool and looks good
twin lark
100%
twin lark
This is what all online games have turned into. Shtty gameplay with gooner scenes
wooden rain
All online games you're into* apparently, that's not the kind i see or play
hearty ether
who spilled the beans
😭 i rmr seeing this for less than half
twin lark
grave hawk
people with 900+ ap doing 4k on mujin
feels lightning
honest timber
feels lightning
It was a sin, purple ep with 16gm 
wooden rain
maybe his macro broke kekw
loud hinge
It was a sin, purple ep with 16gm <:bns_ded:1198525064245674054>
Low stats. Most likely acc
winged reef
feels lightning
You mean 40k
twin lark
twin lark
137 CR or 55 CD?
somber kiln
137 CR or 55 CD?
best option
but it depends
whats are f3 like
but imho for me, bigger number on either crit is what i go for
twin lark
somber kiln
nah that amount of CD aint overweighing it imo
loud hinge
Your stats are same as mine. How much dps u did on tree Vick?
loud hinge
Ikr, that’s why i ask. Obvious comparison
loud hinge
prolly 100k
Nah, my acc is 900 higher
twin lark
42
loud hinge
Is that your peak?
loud hinge
70ms though so i'm cucked anyway
My current ms is 70 too. 2 outages fuked my internet up
And so, 6k dps diff
twin lark
I'd prob hit 50 if my ping was right, should have 20ms but for some reason, this game gives me 70, if i play any other game is 20-25
I call it the NEO effect
Peak gaming
spiral sky
deadge game
winged reef
Rich get richer
wooden rain
3
twin lark
3 valor stones?
twin lark
Yeah
honest timber
how many punctures do you have?
twin lark
GM 22
honest timber
🤔
I think I do less dmg than I should
I think my max with summ is like 37-38k with ~40 less ap and 20gm
and 30-50ms
somber kiln
Peak gaming
Holy
GAME OF THE YEAR
somber kiln
Like
Idk wdf is going on tho
Are the other servers just not geared to be doing bsh?
I was hoping to see a lot of f7 parties
All you see is blue train and bbr parties
gilded thistle
twin lark
i barely scrape up 35k these days
Tweaking macro helps. I spent a few hours to get it right for my ping. The only problem is if ping goes 5ms higher macro gets fcked up but most of the time is flawless
That triple sound is music to my ears
honest timber
everyone quitting today?
twin lark
Just play casual. That's what I'm doing
honest timber
just when ncsoft is about to make good decisions and fix the game? :cluegi:
twin lark
Playing this was a mistake though. Now all I can do is wait for a miracle
honest timber
Just play casual. That's what I'm doing
that's what I'm doing too
twin lark
So I can go back to my indies
honest timber
I just do both trains, exile and if I don't have anything else to do lunar or skyhaven
dire summit
I've been playing very casually, just waiting for Silverfrost to see if anything somehow changes
honest timber
The only change will be that I might get top 10 on wb since everyone will be gone by then
somber kiln
Lmao
Nothing rn was making me want to quit until i got extremely cuhcked by rng
That radicalized me since i was rooting for this game
wooden rain
What is there to root "for" in this game
From the point where it started (in the abyss), it's only been rolling further down
somber kiln
It was getting better
Until i tried ascending my belt that took 9 taps
Almost 1k gold
As an f2p
Its been 2 weeks now and i havent recovered
grave hawk
shouldnt it give it you after 3 taps?
wooden rain
Which major update made the game better than it was previously?
winged reef
The msp patch
wooden rain
Maybe the initial moonwater update compared to cinderlands, but that's just because cinderlands was never intended to be a stopping point
Msp isn't a major update
It's just bait
They created a massive problem with xp requirements and then made it somewhat better
winged reef
Rerolling system, more ascent stones and hongmon essences, plenty of good stuff
loud hinge
Another type of lottery ticket? Lol
dapper ember
Is thunder drake stroke not recommend for lightning bm?
Isn’t sun stroke useless for thunder drake slash since it doesn’t cd the skill like Dt
winged reef
Lmb reduces tab cd as well
Sun Stroke is better because it’s 6s of bd and you need it
Even with the mystic badge changes it’s still better than TDStroke
twin lark
Another type of lottery ticket? Lol
At least it's not treasure trove
primal hound
lmk how much it sold for if u do sell
primal hound
At least it's not treasure trove
this is basially trove tbh, giga spend gold get leggo book
twin lark
Doubt someone buys it
grave hawk
trove at least had outfits
spiral sky
dapper ember
@winged reef what does bd do? I don't see anything enhancing tds
winged reef
<@121018603666407424> what does bd do? I don't see anything enhancing tds
Black Dragon is double the dmg on TDS (RMB version)
loud hinge
trove at least had outfits
Gilded gems too
primal hound
oh yeah im so ready for trove with my 0 gold
loud hinge
10g per green card chest. Ya ready? Lol
primal hound
dcing a lot lately wtf is going on
twin lark
upbeat fossil
https://i.imgur.com/IhQtU51.png
from the lvl 58 achievement... just as you are on the brink of quitting, it reels you back in
winged reef
So are you quitting or switching to gigachad HS build?
gilded thistle
I am considering keeping my gear in case i decide to play again
on silverfrost i mean
I already have bound puncture and tab so starter pack is here :3
astral tendon
kr update today seems like they will have a box to guarantee leg book for 1000g
We will see tmr
astral tendon
Tbf chad hs build might be the way
apparently kr now level is the only thing that matters and anything without aoe is just meh since you are 2-3 level lower
winged reef
I am ready then all my skills are aoe
gilded thistle
somber kiln
So
hearty ether
Yeah but 7k atm
purp HS was like 2k at one point no?
somber kiln
Why is DT still 10k+ when its still below puncture
And puncture is around 16K
Make it make sense
somber kiln
purp HS was like 2k at one point no?
Lowest i saw was 3k
gilded thistle
purp HS was like 2k at one point no?
Last one i saw was 1.2k XD
hearty ether
somber kiln
Damn
hearty ether
Why is DT still 10k+ when its still below puncture
And puncture is around 16K
i saw dt for 8k, 3 of them in a row earlier today
somber kiln
Foes hs build need purple tab?
Do you just lmb+tab till you got max cr on cyclone and spam hs?
hearty ether
Foes hs build need purple tab?
think so
but ive also seen a KR whale run sun stroke with hs
silver moth
i see kr player just stack HS until 48 stack, and then hold RB
just need 1 purple Z, and maybe vortex is enough
hearty ether
somber kiln
Whats gonna feel bad though is that i got 2 bound DTs lmao
Wish it was shareable between alts
somber kiln
Eh idm either dt or hs
Whatever is fun
As long as hs aint ping dependent
Im aight
winged reef
Surely today they will buff blue tab after changing the mystic badge last week
somber kiln
I still find it funny how they kept marketing NEO as correcting the wrongs of live
Yet still doing the opposite
honest haven
Justice for lightning
ok now we're in fantasy land
winged reef
ok now we're in fantasy land
Party pooper
primal hound
can't wait for puncture to be gutted
wicked plank
dapper ember
I just salvage blue tab book xd
twin lark
Inb4 they get rid of books
somber kiln
Inb4 they get rid of the game
grave hawk
Inb4 they get rid of the game
just a matter of time
somber kiln
Well live had good if not, decent reviews
The moment it got whale heavy
It died
Or got hugely diminished
Either way
I think it takes way more for a game to close down tbh
grave hawk
they just rerelease old dungeons on live, its dead
somber kiln
Especially if NC has a highly profitable game like TnL
wooden rain
Dead but not shut down
gilded thistle
hearty ether
KR is out for us
i know for a fact kr has nothing to do with final ncwest decisions
winged reef
You don't mean that
spiral sky
sry
astral tendon
are they alergic to money or something
twin lark
This guy looks like he escaped a mental institution. This is what years of BNS/PSONG does to you
https://youtu.be/NhV_FtFjp0w
twin lark
Funny how a shtty game has dungeons with actual mechs
twin lark
That's new
spiral sky
GONna quit this game
hearty ether
This guy looks like he escaped a mental institution. This is what years of BNS/P...
i havent seen that name in a while omg
wooden rain
i know for a fact kr has nothing to do with final ncwest decisions
What ncwest decisions
silver moth
What a joke
grave hawk
What a joke
What changed?
lethal prairie
they remove cheaper ncoin codes and give us a gem instead of gold rng box
they rly wanna test out with how much bull... the community keeps up
gilded thistle
solar python
I was banned for a week. I check steam player numbers and its down 20% again over 7 days. 
grave hawk
Its far more alive because of server merge
The last booster they had
Scrap old server and re-release like the fishbelly flop
Wouldnt start from scratch
astral tendon
BnS Neo reforged confirmed to be release in q4 2025
solar python
Neo reforged, pinky promise no pay2win this time
hearty ether
What ncwest decisions
?? every bad decision recently like the battle pass, the lack of events similar to the ones in KR and the recent rng box
wooden rain
And what makes you think ncwest decided those
fickle loom
NCKR decides everything NCWest just does what they say
dapper ember
If you guys want it to be more vocal, discord is not the place, try other platforms
somber kiln
Honestly dont care to be more vocal at this point
Whatever we say goes on deaf ears
Only our lord and savior Rownen and his team be fighting for ys
Us
But theres a limit i guess
solar python
Rownen and his team
Rownen is legit fighting a losing battle
He probably had to take a pay cut and 20 lashes to the back to get that purple selector coupon into the game
NCKR is objectively not interested in providing a good experience to anyone
Not even whales have fun, they are just addicted to the combat and can't stop
and that is exactly what NCKR wants
Its the saddest thing
twin lark
Bruh i didn't post any links or anything, i just mentioned it
This is getting ridiculous now
astral tendon
Not even whales have fun, they are just addicted to the combat and can't stop
well, tbh this is kind of true
If they can fix the dc issue and just let me hit full speed at all time I’d probably complain less
solar python
Whales complaining is just a failed Business Strategy
wooden rain
with the money you spent you could've just made your own server
solar python
Their entire business is centralized on whales staying meanwhile they can barely keep the hyper addicted people
Aion 2 is unironically the last hope for Blade and Soul Neo
as stupid as that sounds
NCSoft seems to be banking hard on the revenue from that release
like really really hard
and if its good and they make money they might be able to invest a little more into their other ips
wooden rain
in another rerelease you mean
solar python
of course
silver moth
Neo dead game speedrun any % huh? 
solar python
Neo reforged
Neo was probably the most dead on arrival title I have ever played and that terminology is crazy overused
Neo was dead on arrival in the most literal sense possible, at least in the west
wooden rain
didn't you join this game quite late
i wouldn't say lv36 and initial lv50 were dead
but the game was always bleeding players fast
twin lark
Smh
solar python
didn't you join this game quite late
I played on release then quit then tried again after steam release fresh
green schooner
Rownen and his team
rownen is too good for this company absolutely carried
solar python
Rownen is either the only person that cares for the players in the entire apparatus of NCSoft or he is just really good at pretending to be, which is obviously a real possibility
wooden rain
i have no idea what gives you the impression of him being good at anything
there's 0 difference whether he exists or not, he's just a personification of ncwest for people to yell at
no actual impact
green schooner
Rownen is either the only person that cares for the players in the entire appara...
100% twin
he makes us feel heard and understood
solar python
i have no idea what gives you the impression of him being good at anything
maybe really good is an overstatement
valid cradle
but the game was always bleeding players fast
Game was basically doomed when they werent able to quickly fix their ddos/server issues.
green schooner
game still getting "ddos'ed" right 
green schooner
they were pretty bad for some people without a vpn at peak times
when we had actual players
solar python
I mean I can't speak for everyone but at least for the actually supported countries the servers were okay outside of some really early DC series'
solar python
the main DC issues seem to be mostly concentrated to the people far away from the servers even with VPN
solar python
sure but that was mainly at the start which is obviously not good
green schooner
i dont think it was a "not supported country" problem LOL
people from the middle of EU had the same problems
valid cradle
Netherlands and Germany being affected all the same
solar python
but people would have put up with it if NCSoft actually showed that they are working on a solution and the game was not just an avengers level threat cash grab scheme
solar python
What mattered was NCSofts response to all the problems
valid cradle
But x% of what-couldve-been-the-playerbase is more than what we have now
solar python
which is no response at all
solar python
yeah the DDoS was fixed
green schooner
and they heroicly overcame this burden
solar python
I can honestly believe that
now the DCs
are just the game being bad
or the servers
valid cradle
Shouldve included a month of exitlag with the battlepass /s
spiral sky
Game was basically doomed when they werent able to quickly fix their ddos/server...
The one week to fix translation bug from new skills was the cherry on top
green schooner
translations really is a non issue dude
most companys just move such fixes to the next release schedule
instead of an ASAP hotfix
wooden rain
the ddos fix was the ddosers getting tired of it
solar python
even blizzard does not like doing tooltip or text bugs with hotfixes
green schooner
with less players
solar python
I can believe there was some DDoS but they made it seem like it was like 99% of the reason for the DCs
When its probably not even 20%
green schooner
my theory day 1 was that they ducked up massively coding the trans-channel implementation for worldboss
solar python
Servers are probably just garbage
My guess is they have the same budget for their western servers as they do for japanese and taiwanese ones
and the ones in the west obviously cost way more
especially the good and reliable ones
Germany and USA probably have some of the most expensive servers in the entire world
spiral sky
most companys just move such fixes to the next release schedule
Sure... If it was only translation the bug
green schooner
fun fact CN and TW are the most active regions rn
spiral sky
It disabled a good chunk of skills
For one week
Funny thing is that tw hotfixed instantly
solar python
Taiwan and Japan also just have the benefit of needing to pay people less
meanwhile NCAmerica is based in probably the most expensive place in the western hemisphere business wise
if not the entire planet
valid cradle
NCEurope wouldnt have made the same mistake 😔
solar python
NCEurope would never be a thing
NCAmerica is barely a legal company as is
and that is in a Country that plays loosey goosey with consumer protections
hybrid goblet
wtb eu 200 each
solar python
fun fact CN and TW are the most active regions rn
idk how a company can look at this and think ' yeah we are doing everything correctly, lets keep doing what we are doing'
green schooner
reason is you're looking at entire different numbers than they are
solar python
that this version of Neo is actually maximizing profits
green schooner
its just a win loss calculation at this point
run it up at minimal cost for as much milk as possible
solar python
I just can't believe that this is the most profitable
hybrid goblet
is not
solar python
% wise maybe?
green schooner
its not supposed to maximize profits
hybrid goblet
but is worth
green schooner
its supposed to minimize effort
hybrid goblet
yeah
solar python
effort just means cost in business
hybrid goblet
the law of least effort
green schooner
there was barely even any marketing done
hybrid goblet
Damn, I just peed on the entire base player of the game and I won 100k, I'll keep doing it.
green schooner
come on we had the WL trailer on one of those game release shows 💀
solar python
that probably does not even cost them anything
hybrid goblet
People in general don't like this company. In fact, in Korea it's one of the worst, according to what I understand. I think they're now trying to milk and survive with few workers or effort.
solar python
NCSoft probably had that slot already anyway
These shows are planned insanely far ahead
hybrid goblet
kek
green schooner
we did it :)
valid cradle
LOL
green schooner
right besides it you have nexon and djmax references
solar python
worst thing about warlock release is that most people that started playing and have kept playing warlock since its release are probably still not level 60
green schooner
especially djmax is really beloved by people and their office is rigth besides
hybrid goblet
I feel sorry for the hate Rowen gets because he will literally be prohibited from speaking or commenting on things because otherwise he will lose his salary or something like that. It is very typical of these companies to silence the CMs.
winged reef
I’m pretty sure Rowen tries, he’s just naive and he probably thinks by talking to NCSoft they will change something but obviously they won’t
hybrid goblet
literally
Honestly, the next bp without purple I think will be the final blow of this game.
valid cradle
Its weird that they dont even do blue selectors for new-ish players anymore
solar python
They have not done anything for new players since steam release and even steam release event was not a lot all things considered
steam release event was just siren gear, couple blue selectors and a random purple
the market compensation was the only thing people ever got that gave meaningful progression
still cloud
The game NEEDS selector boxes. As it stands right now you need incredible luck to score a worthwhile book. It's possible to go weeks without a meaningful upgrade even if you're playing consistently.
I've kinda fallen off the train. Waiting for Silverfrost to see if the QoL will increase before throwing in the towel. It's just a shame because I enjoy the game so much.
twin lark
Another soulslike, they are milking the genre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fpRDzhUHFI&pp=ygUTV29vY2hpIHRoZSBXYXlmYXJlcg%3D%3D
twin lark
Is this worth using?
This is the one i'm using rn
Losing 117 CD doesn't feel right
Is 1360 additional dmg better than 117cd?
twin lark
mortal trench
I wonder if higher onrush level has higher chance to be triggered
astral tendon
Always 5%
valid cradle
Some of the more recent higher level onrush sets are mainly useful because they take less slots
Are you talking about soul core when you start the boss?
If not its a combination of level and accuracy
But you gotta be pretty low level to have issues on bbr I think
silver moth
If that kd from Hae Mujin soul core u cast before go in, i think it not gonna work, cause boss have a buff give immune to CC as long as u haven't trigger the fight
winged reef
This is the one i'm using rn
Get the Hexwood one, 88 cdmg with onrush for only 2 slots
grave hawk
Dont think it matters dmg difference is too little to bother
stark saffron
hey,was there any big changes to meta builds? I stopped playing before labyrinth came out.Sold all the purples and have now left just all the blue utility like falcon,rush etc and bound pierce+bound puncture book. Think can i make something work with theese with not too mutch invest?
stark saffron
if i already have both , purple puncture+some blue stacks wont be better? If i remember right with puncture can pretty mutch fill with punctures,while pierce want some more books to keep that buff more? if i make any sense
winged reef
Yea Pierce plays around the Black Dragon buff, otherwise it’s like Puncture
stark saffron
can play pierce/puncture with blue LMB or purple is a must and how mutch purple lmb go for?
astral tendon
Purple lmb is just 10% crit, it increases the damage by a fair bit but not necessary for the build to function
blue one also max boost puncture
stark saffron
thanks for info,eu is now only cinderlands server?
stark saffron
current battlepass dont give purple book ? 
astral tendon
and only 25% of the chance for them to be useful
grave hawk
Its green its trash tier
stark saffron
insignias is the only thing that my char is sorted with,been wasting my gold fusing them b4
astral tendon
I need 5 more green special attack
true whale already got 3 purple
Gold fish like me still using blues
valid cradle
Imagine not having 9 purple ready for silverfrost
twin lark
Get the Hexwood one, 88 cdmg with onrush for only 2 slots
Saying it is easy, getting it isn't
primal hound
Lmao my main has like 700 insig boxes I haven't opened yet cus I was already all purples and i didn't feel like constantly opening them just to not use any
twin lark
Gonna use them when they add a new tier for sure
loud hinge
Lmao my main has like 700 insig boxes I haven't opened yet cus I was already all...
Leg insignia incoming bro
somber kiln
Gonna use them when they add a new tier for sure
Thought you quit
twin lark
No, i said i'll play casual
winged reef
twin lark
primal hound
this is probably the most stale patch ever
valid cradle
Theres always next patch if we dont get silverfrost
gilded thistle
spiral sky
void ermine
winged reef
Got lucky today
twin lark
Ted is creating his own lore
That would be cool, the chance to make your char an NPC or part of the story
There you go NCsoft a good idea
Use it
winged reef
You’re already part of the story
You’re cricket
And you get your ass beat all the time
twin lark
fickle loom
this is probably the most stale patch ever
change that ever to “yet” and you’re probably looking in the right direction
things can always get worse 
upbeat fossil
valid cradle
they should release soulfighter already
astral tendon
Still don’t understand the point of this pig event
to just have an event to say they are doing their job or what
hearty ether
<:pepehehe:282540143892758529> to just have an event to say they are doing their...
yes
green schooner
hidden pawn
Got unmuted
Why u get muted?
upbeat fossil
it's the risk of having clown in the name, im a 3-time victim of admin abuse 
astral tendon
he changed name to wts account and got muted
solar python
funniest thing to me is that even the giveaways seem to have gotten slashed from creators
when they first ran it was like 10 codes each
now its like 2 or 3
sour night
lol
twin lark
it's the risk of having clown in the name, im a 3-time victim of admin abuse <:P...
I know the feeling
spiral sky
winged reef
I’ve been playing a bit of SEBNS
Already a much better game it’s crazy
Too bad my ping isn’t very great compared to neo
winged reef
My face when another week goes by without lightning buff
gilded thistle
solar tiger
solar tiger
@winged reef seriously i love this gif you made i probably will use a lot more times now hehe ^^
winged reef
lol nice xd
twin lark
Would have been even better if the fashion event wasn't a pic but gifs. This one would have won for sure
somber kiln
my god dude
i didnt play for 2 days and i come back and wasted 33 essence on a bracelet i already rolled 12+ times on
still no CD
what have i done to the rng in this game man?
loud hinge
i didnt play for 2 days and i come back and wasted 33 essence on a bracelet i al...
Do this before you hit confirm button
Rng god will connect to you
twin lark
A slot machine has a higher chance of winning than rolling the right stat
spiral silo
Hi, a question for the pros 😅. I know there's a macro for puncture, and I've tried it, but for Heavenly Slasher? Does it exist, or can anyone give me some information? Thanks☺️
astral tendon
I mean you hold rmb for heavenly slasher
Why do you need a macro that’s the question
If you want to do lmb tab rmb and don’t want to pay for puncture , go pierce
tbf you said that
My Chinese advanced technology actually have that macro
It does lmb, to hold rmb while you have focus and use focus regen skills when you are low on focus
Idk who will ever use it but it is there
sick bison
Kinda obsolete for any future leggy heavenly slasher enjoyers anyway
With the infinite rmb hold gameplay
twin lark
auto combat
spiral silo
I mean you hold rmb for heavenly slasher
I understand that puncture is the best option and yes, I have it, but I liked the other option you mentioned, but some more constructive information to make it more entertaining in the neo, something to think about. ^^!
I'm paying attention, but is it true or just something improvised? I'll try it anyway 🙂
astral tendon
I understand that puncture is the best option and yes, I have it, but I liked th...
You use purple breeze, lmb twice and hold rmb, block cyclone hold rmb, use focus regen skill like z or 3 or vv and hold rmb
Future would be vortex wave instead of cyclone
Not sure what more infos are out there, basic stance bm is brain dead anyway, the skill expression is how can you hit full speed under low ping and don’t dc
And that’s not even something hs need to worry about
dapper ember
Go lightning build, best build
sick bison
Playing a BM and going lightning is like buying a Bugatti and only driving inside the city
Just edging yourself for no reason
winged reef
Only in Neo
solar python
why would you buy a bugatti for any other reason than flexing on people
if you actually want to race or drive fast cars you can do that for cheaper by just renting a car at a race track
dapper ember
idk, I've been doing pretty good dmg against others in dungeons
I only lose, if I get knocked down or something
sick bison
why would you buy a bugatti for any other reason than flexing on people
That’s the entire point, you play lightning just for the sake of playing it. You could pay less and do more dps by going pierce, if budget is the issue
wooden rain
Achievement unlocked: 24 hours of silence
gilded thistle
wooden rain
I don't think this channel ever had this much quiet
odd mantle
📉
gilded thistle
130912
gilded thistle
In silverfrost we trust
wooden rain
Are there any
astral tendon
By this rate I don’t think we will get silverforst next bp
which means time to quit the game I guess
gilded thistle
I mean, you can literally not log till sf and still not miss a thing
You're done with shadowstones right?
astral tendon
Well yeah, technically no cos someone borrowed 12 so I’m actually 74/80
I still need one more leg book
Guess I’ll just buy it in the next few weeks
astral tendon
that was just bullsht luck
astral tendon
Doubt it will become better in silverforst
winged reef
I’ve been having fun with this https://youtu.be/ha4DpuD_U6c?si=0mGWesRbuNdaBAu2
twin lark
Idk why they haven't added solo dungeons yet
Lab is for the few, shadow is for the extra few and msp is just boring at this point
BP sucks and we don't have pvp
NEO is downgraded LIVE
astral tendon
ssg is probably more accessible than lab now
twin lark
what's ssg?
twin lark
They both bad dungeons anyway
silver moth
TW server got the event where u must daily lab 18 times
and reward is 20 purple frag book
astral tendon
tbf id rather we have that
I can daily labs, but I cba to grind 💩 dungeons for useless exp charms
I tank fujin is easy to find ppl for lab anyway
twin lark
An event just for whales, another CN classic
loud hinge
Idk why they haven't added solo dungeons yet
I dont think the avg gears could fit to clear the blackram solo dungeon yet?
astral tendon
Depends on how they balance it
we will get muksin or whatever in silverforst i think
loud hinge
<:pepehehe:282540143892758529> we will get muksin or whatever in silverforst i t...
Cant wait to get whooped by yunsang’s pole 
buoyant jewel
any puncture bms familiar with dcing in ssg? or maybe unrelated to puncture
winged reef
any puncture bms familiar with dcing in ssg? or maybe unrelated to puncture
Are you moving around when you dc? Too many inputs from macro and moving = dc
buoyant jewel
ah probably. so i would need to slow it down for ssg
honest timber
you can also try changing your engine.ini
adding this
it's not a permanent solution, but I have less dc in tree with that
buoyant jewel
adding this
yea i already had that added. before i did, i never dc'd anywhere else. only been an issue in ssg
slowed it down by like 100ms so it is what it is i guess
twin lark
Are you moving around when you dc? Too many inputs from macro and moving = dc
Didn't know this was a thing. Never happened to me
I don't really move so that's prob why
astral tendon
yea i already had that added. before i did, i never dc'd anywhere else. only bee...
been discussed for a fair bit when ssg released
Either move less or slow the macro down
Preferably both
Hence way I prefer to not ssg with 4 melee and have 1 range knows at least to enter last
-5k dps by default with 4 melees
twin lark
Only NCsoft has the ability of releasing a new dungeon adding 0 excitement just another chore
astral tendon
it was fun for like half a day
Tbf worse than lab releases
And least lab was fun for a few days
wooden rain
Fun to keep dying constantly when the dungeon isn't fully braindead
twin lark
I'm telling you, if they release NS and sht is just another dps check, i'm gonna quit 100%, no regrets and never think about it ever again
NS without mechs is just a crime
somber kiln
took another 2 day break
welcomed back wonderfully lmao
and 3 more reroll fails
yeah we're masochhistic
gilded thistle
hearty ether
do we get no news on what the events are before the maintenance?
twin lark
https://tenor.com/view/liar-why-the-fuck-you-lyin-dancing-why-the-fuck-why-are-you-lying-gif-7431053
hearty ether
winged reef
Time to reroll HS to solo ssg https://youtu.be/GSEFjvEPJt0?si=nXSf1f8Kdzxp-d25
twin lark
Holy fck
loud hinge
Those tentacles look so stupid w/o mech
twin lark
Those tentacles look so stupid w/o mech
Did a run and can confirm it is stupid without mech
Like every dungeon we already have
Sadly
How isn't he running out of focus
nvm
fickle salmon
Time to reroll HS to solo ssg https://youtu.be/GSEFjvEPJt0?si=nXSf1f8Kdzxp-d25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfC88mtFD34 , Purple puncture > legy HS
twin lark
Wait, that's the same speed as my rotation but i don't have 10ms wtf
Pretty broken
1:20 punct 1:32 HS
hearty ether
How isn't he running out of focus
ultra whale too, 12k crit rate
buoyant jewel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfC88mtFD34 , Purple puncture > legy HS <:bns_bu...
noticed the comment talking about delays in macro. are most ppl running slower macro in general to not get dc'd?
fickle salmon
noticed the comment talking about delays in macro. are most ppl running slower m...
some ppl are complaining about getting dc if the puncture macro is set too low(too fast) while moving or something
twin lark
2 man sogun
https://youtu.be/mX0_2TuzDLw
twin lark
noticed the comment talking about delays in macro. are most ppl running slower m...
BNS servers
wtf min 4:26 he can range hit asura
winged reef
This is my favourite lightning version
