Blade Master

[loud hinge]

mb TDS

[primal hound]

i think i would have been happy playing hs build tbh

i kinda regret not going that route, idc about top dps build cus there's someone on my server

[silver moth]

hs is future

[primal hound]

whos full pierce, for 2k a piece

[silver moth]

it fine

[primal hound]

and does more dps than me

[spiral sky]

Rinna

[primal hound]

Ya

skyze read my dm dammit

but they do have full gm slots possible for purple tho so

i have 4 punctures, they have like 12 pierces

[spiral sky]

he dont even use bd

i mean

he has more stats too

4k cd,3,5k pierce

1117ap

66gms

ok guys

i gave up

for today

im at 60

60%

tomorrow i might finish

[primal hound]

for?

[spiral sky]

macro

[primal hound]

oo

[twin lark]

Does it auto adjust depending on ping?

What's that chinese voo doo?

[silver moth]

Black magic

[spiral sky]

hell no

its just ahk

[silk beacon]

ahk with steroids

[twin lark]

I meant the chinese one

[primal hound]

if skyze manages to make it work

goat

[spiral sky]

i dont speak chinese

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-mvp-the-goat-gif-27042870

[spiral sky]

[primal hound]

and if its bette than what we have

i might just send over some dg

😉

[spiral sky]

[primal hound]

been leeching off skyze ahk macro for months now

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/voodoo-mama-juju-michael-scott-gif-25179140

[spiral sky]

ok

going to sleep

would say im at 65% right now

need to create "howtosetupfordummies"

world doc with imagens for pleb

to avoid future headache

[grizzled gale]

Skyze single handedly carrying the whole bm macro production

[spiral sky]

im out

[twin lark]

@spiral sky Don't forget to add on and off macro for those who don't have macro mouse

Like me

[spiral sky]

1k dgs for that option

[twin lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1337625935347843095/1401269644832280678/888234569529180223.gif

[honest timber]

I'd say it needs even higher ping because I have around 30-50 and dc 50% of times

[sage tulip]

i think if you are holding A or D for longer period of times you will dc

if you do short movements should be fine

[vivid robin]

wasn't there some snippet of code that could be added to prevent it

or did that not work

[sage tulip]

i did add it and im not dcing anymore

but some people still dc even with that

[vivid robin]

cause i feel like as i switch my ISP i think i'ma get cooked

[sage tulip]

i still think if you are running around boss 360 you will dc no matter what

[vivid robin]

thats sad, how else we gonna feel like a protagonist

[sage tulip]

sidesteping works fine in my case

[astral tendon]

Side step works until you can’t do it

[sage tulip]

you have q e ss

but yeah sometimes it feels like you get targeted by everything

[hearty ether]

how'd u get the font to look like that 👀

[winged reef]

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-gif-22344136

[main inlet]

dark chi power

[green schooner]

It was never a DDoS

It was all a governmental lie

[gilded thistle]

[somber kiln]

it gets better

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[solar python]

once a week loot

[winged reef]

Now that I don’t need hongmoon essences anymore

They keep dropping

[somber kiln]

i need 9 more ascent stones

if i am going to max pity my belt lol

:]

this belt has set me back miles

how is f2p supposed to keep up

[sage tulip]

shouldve sold this belt

buy hexwood with 1 good stat

and reroll the other one

[solar python]

Is this a rhetorical question?

Obviously you are not meant to keep up without spending

That is like 80% of the reason why this game is dead

[somber kiln]

im already in too deep

gotta see it through even if its max pity

but thats 700g right there

for what?

[solar python]

I mean

at this point yeah its worth actually going through

but you could have bought a belt and changed stats for probably half the resources

[somber kiln]

yeah probably but i was seeing clannies getting theirs for like 2-3 taps in

forgot the game aint that fair

[winged reef]

I’m gonna ascend my belt too

Already down 1 try

[somber kiln]

plus me trying to make money

to buy gold

jfc

nothing is dropping

blue books aint even selling at 130

[winged reef]

I use gems to buy t. Stones

[sage tulip]

my blue books just sold for 100

[gilded thistle]

[sage tulip]

[winged reef]

Same loot I get in poh for less effort and blessings

[honest timber]

Legendary dungeon btw

Add a leader accessory and you get the loot for a lvl 45 blue dungeon

[honest timber]

We are not supposed to ☹️

[somber kiln]

I had to log off or else I would have started selling my shii

This is not a nice feelint

[spiral sky]

[hidden pawn]

Wat is this

[spiral sky]

Macro

[hidden pawn]

Detect macro?

[spiral sky]

Yep

[hidden pawn]

Send me plz haha

[spiral sky]

Not finished

[hidden pawn]

Ah ok

[edgy lion]

WTB EU PM

WTB Puncture build all skill

[loud hinge]

Item’s price is going down over time. Gathering ascent stone also takes time. If i was you, by the time i got the stones and trash leg item went cheap => i’ll buy trash leg

[edgy lion]

WTS EU

[loud hinge]

That’s what i did. I gave up on my sword cuz trash leg sword was cheap after 3 failures

[solar python]

either way you are at the mercy of RNG, the best course for gearing is likely to just mix ascending and rerolling stats on bad legendaries

so you minmax both resources

[loud hinge]

Reroll has better odds than ascension tbh

[solar python]

sure but reroll is just as limited as ascension

[winged reef]

My ring made me scared of rerolling

Takes time to gather resources too

But overall probably cheaper than ascending

[solar python]

I think ascending neck and belt is fine, but everything else is not really worth it

[loud hinge]

For now? Nahh

[solar python]

especially ring, earring

[loud hinge]

Neck is cheap af

[somber kiln]

belt is different though, no one is even doing lab anymore, even if you see a belt...its wayyy overpriced

[winged reef]

I ascended my neck cause I had great rolls and psyche

[somber kiln]

and im already in too deep on belt

just gonna finish it

[loud hinge]

Belt is the only one to consider

[somber kiln]

20%

1/5 chances

failed 7

possibly 8 soon

love to see it

[winged reef]

If you see the real cost as going full pity it won’t feel as bad

And if it evolves earlier it’s like a bonus

Like gather 150 stones and 1000g and consider it an upgrade then

[loud hinge]

You know what? If you decided to buy trash leg for rerolling. Buy the upgraded ones

[loud hinge]

If a awakened/true trash belt is listed for 8-10k. I’m gladly buying it & reroll

We dont know how the rng gonna “ favor “ us

[twin lark]

Gents, we've reached peak gaming

[winged reef]

[gilded thistle]

Isnt that nyanners?

[loud hinge]

[solar python]

huge loot

[spiral sky]

more essense

for more failure

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jackcoin-jack-solo-mining-party-gif-9287197897110153171

[fair sleet]

is it cost somethink?

[spiral sky]

i pay 1k

[wooden rain]

What are you doing with your life

[astral tendon]

exactly what’s gonna happen with pc release

[spiral sky]

85% complete

[winged reef]

[gilded thistle]

[spiral sky]

whats ur guys hotkeys and sleeps for fire anicancel?

[twin lark]

Pretty sure they did something to RNG, just transmuted 25 greens and got 25 greens

[winged reef]

I'm keeping my fragments

[void ermine]

Not bad idea tbh

Waste of gold transmitting greens

[twin lark]

Keeping them for what?

[solar tiger]

You seem to like green

[primal hound]

Gogogogo

[winged reef]

I prefer purple #📷︱game-photography message

[spiral sky]

bot dont like macros

[loud hinge]

bunch of failures are on the way

[winged reef]

[twin lark]

Ya'll got any of them essences left?

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[loud hinge]

my gears are ok for now

i don't want to waste it on SS meanwhile i need gold for other upgrades

[vivid robin]

forward (side button) + hold left click

[twin lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfG8XdOwPK8

Check them hit boxes

Better than Tekken's

[loud hinge]

this guy literally beat me at wb @spiral sky

lv59 2k9 cd

[spiral sky]

i would beet you on the earlier one

if i have sum

[twin lark]

That doesn't mean anything tbh. You have to check GM and if low ping

GM 20 is normal, most of us have it

So i guess 10ms

[loud hinge]

could be

[twin lark]

+he plays punct

You're DT

[loud hinge]

yep

[spiral sky]

oh no

[loud hinge]

thats what i and Skyze were talking about

[spiral sky]

wrong guys

[twin lark]

I think DT is only good at GM 60

[spiral sky]

i thinked it was enabled

ignore what i said

yah ur build sux

silver frost gets worse

ur badge is dt focused

[loud hinge]

Skyze also showed me his dps on tree

[spiral sky]

F sun stroker

i regressed on my work

=/

[loud hinge]

his stats are lower than mine except one thing PING

he badly beat me on record

[spiral sky]

bro

i do more dmg than you

and i can do 85% of my true dmg

becuase ping

[loud hinge]

i guess i must

its pretty hard to switch rn

[twin lark]

Ping is the true end game lmao

[loud hinge]

books for punct build aint on market

lol

[twin lark]

Yeah cause the game is dead

Might wanna try after merge

[loud hinge]

if market is cross-server

merge doesnt matter

every bm follows meta

high demands vs low supply

[spiral sky]

if i wants walled by ping

i would be a ted 2.0

[loud hinge]

Ted is loyal to lightning tho

[twin lark]

Steam's market isn't cross server

[loud hinge]

well

last hope

[somber kiln]

lmao these are so funny

damn you guys doing 40k

on 22gm

gyatttt

[twin lark]

Well, i'm sure they can do more, i'm just a 70ms pleb

I've seen ppl with almost my gear do like 7k more than me, only cause they play with 10-20ms

[loud hinge]

a bit better

[loud hinge]

below 29ms is a different story

[twin lark]

Imagine running lab for that loot

[twin lark]

Yeah

[somber kiln]

dunno, DT is basically whats making me stay tbh

if i was a macroing class

i'd have left already

[loud hinge]

@winged reef build is waiting for a huge buff

[twin lark]

If we had same DT as LIVE i would play DT too, but we don't

[loud hinge]

tbf either build is fine. As long as we can still clear contents EVENTUALLY

but to follow up the contents & contest

punct is the way rn

[somber kiln]

yeah

but im basically like Ted rn

playing for fun LMAO

but this belt is making me reconsider

[loud hinge]

lol

my opinion is meanwhile you're gathering another 15 stones

keep looking up a trash awakened/true tempest belt

at the fair price

just take it and reroll

[somber kiln]

then the reroll gonna be 15+ tries like my bracelet

didnt even get cd on bracelet

i gave up and stuck with accuracy

[loud hinge]

imagine if you fail on upgrading it to true

which would be cheaper

lol

[somber kiln]

think im on the verge with this game

[winged reef]

The only content I can’t really do is shadowmoor

[winged reef]

Maybe with leggy stone slash

[loud hinge]

everybody is until the pity hit you

[winged reef]

It’s been below 2k before. People putting them high cause they have no idea

[loud hinge]

dang

i thought this is the lowest

[winged reef]

I think my last stack was around 1500

[somber kiln]

yeah this game can just die tbh

[loud hinge]

lightning is seriously underrated

[winged reef]

But the first one I bought for 7k

[loud hinge]

i bought Sun Stroke 6k

i'm selling one at 2k rn

[winged reef]

It’ll be better with Silverfrost bro just hold on till then

[loud hinge]

5th relist

[winged reef]

I got my Sun Stroke from BP

Was still 10k back then

[somber kiln]

bought my sunstroke for 25k

and it went to 15k the week after

and the guy who sold me it was being so harsh, didnt wanna do 20-23k

im more upset he got away with that

honestly, that should have been the green light for me to uninstall

[silver moth]

Reroll stats is... Idk, seem a scam for me

[winged reef]

I remember buying blue Fissure and ES for almost 2k

[silver moth]

18 roll and no crit dmg on weapon

[winged reef]

Right before price crash

It is what it is

[silver moth]

[somber kiln]

dawg

lets talk about rn

how the hell my belt taking me to full pity

what

[loud hinge]

i was lucky on rerolls

none of my items went over 5 taps

[silver moth]

Gamble go wrong

[loud hinge]

reroll & ascension

[somber kiln]

man this is getting to me

[silver moth]

I wish we have pity for that

[loud hinge]

i would choose reroll

[winged reef]

Good game design would be having an item that guarantees the stat you want on reroll

[loud hinge]

nah Ted

it wouldn't

New World is an example

ppl quit with the reason " lack of contents "

that wasn't it

you can craft a BIS set yourself

you can gather all the mats easily

[somber kiln]

the stupid thing about these bum devs is that their understanding that progression is based on rng

no

you grind for a fixed amount of items

[winged reef]

Yea but Neo has a lot more problems that just the stats

[loud hinge]

after all, everyone has the same build, the same items => skill issue happens

[somber kiln]

and it feels more rewarding

df is the lame ass rng gonna do

for anyone

[winged reef]

It was just one example

[loud hinge]

this game rng is a joke for real

[silver moth]

Book system is a example

[somber kiln]

i just hope this company goes bankrupt and gotta sell their rights to a better one

bc no way a good combat system is tied to the dumbest devs possible

and the current ones aint even create it

[silver moth]

Well, they are trying milk this game more 1 or 2 year

[somber kiln]

they just stole it from live which had a better wrap

[loud hinge]

yet we are here

grinding it every day

so

[silver moth]

They don't care about game, they just want milk money

[loud hinge]

be like @winged reef

play for fun

[winged reef]

I still want to clear the content

Just need to think of my own progression though and not look at other people

[loud hinge]

i do too

i can't do lab recently

[somber kiln]

yeah im playing for fun on a spec that's already subpar, even though its the intended play style

but when the rng blows out all your progress

this belt set me back so far

[loud hinge]

due to my dt build

[winged reef]

I wouldn’t say it’s subpar

[somber kiln]

so much gold, gems

and mats

[loud hinge]

[winged reef]

Just can’t beat a macro build

If ppl played punc manually the dps would be much much lower

[loud hinge]

macro is needed for this game

if not, fm-ers cant play

[silver moth]

Yeah play for fun

[winged reef]

It’s not but there’s also nothing else in the game than dps for now at least

[silver moth]

But not really fun if they kick u just because u "build"

[somber kiln]

and you know what gets to me as well? most people are getting their sh it ascended by 2-3 tapping

some people finished their belt AND neck/weapon

than less taps on my belt combined

[winged reef]

Well that’s never happened to me

[silver moth]

If i have 100% whole access and weap, then it not fun anymore

It the pain

[winged reef]

Just luck

Maybe you’ll 1 tap to awakened afterwards

[somber kiln]

im wasting stones i could be saving for sf

and that pisses me off

is sf expected to be the next patch or after?

[silver moth]

Well, if i have 60 stack of TDS too

[winged reef]

Probably next, waiting till October would be crazy

[somber kiln]

even worse for me

unless Asura is that big of a make up

[winged reef]

Asura’s loot is around the same as Shadowmoor

Just lower chance for ss

50% hm essence, 38% ascent stone, 0.09% leggy book

[somber kiln]

gonna have to live in there to even catch up back on the stones i lost

i hate to be a doom chatter

but this belt really got to me

[winged reef]

Do you have anything else to ascend

[somber kiln]

no

literally just that

thats just the final thing i need

and i have 3/7 items true

rest awk

[winged reef]

I also only need to ascend my belt

Still at 10%

[somber kiln]

yeah you'll get it in the next 2-3 tries or something

[winged reef]

You never know

Or I might just hold on to the stones and keep it at Purple

[twin lark]

Imagine if they decided to revamp the whole system

https://tenor.com/view/pogchamp-pog-pogey-poggers-twitch-gif-14340727

[somber kiln]

that would be a good decision

so not possible

[silver moth]

NC make a good decision, no way

[twin lark]

They did it twice for LIVE, so it's not impossible, kinda like a miracle

[somber kiln]

even the event is rng, are they tards?

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/smort-smart-peralta-gif-5914562

Why would you get that outfit though?

Ugly af

[somber kiln]

the super saiyan hair is kinda ok

[twin lark]

If it didn't have that stupid cow face

[somber kiln]

had a feeling it would be low stats

9th times the charm

-_-

[twin lark]

Wdym low?

That's really good

Need it

[silver moth]

Live dev is chad

[somber kiln]

dude @winged reef am i going insane?

[silver moth]

We don't compare them to neo dev

[somber kiln]

this belt is cursed

i now understand why EU was getting ddos'd

this sh it needs to be punished man

[wooden rain]

Except nc doesn't care about west

[sage tulip]

49k w 20gm was my best on tree

[spiral sky]

Game is deadge

[winged reef]

1 tap into true just believe

[gilded thistle]

It's fineee

Merge will save it trust

[spiral sky]

[spiral sky]

[winged reef]

Filthy moonwater players in my server

[spiral sky]

[gilded thistle]

Skyhaven police

[spiral sky]

[grave hawk]

does tsm need the tentacle mechanics?

[spiral sky]

No

There's no mech in neo

[silver moth]

There is only one mech

[grave hawk]

do you just hmb the tentacle explosion?

[spiral sky]

In neo

You just need to survive

design

[winged reef]

Asura and Nexus have their mechs

But the “legendary” dungeon content doesn’t

[spiral sky]

You still dont wipe

[gilded thistle]

So the legend was fake intel

[upbeat fossil]

mechanics? those are for cars!
-NEO devs or something...

[winged reef]

Wait for raids they will fix everything

[upbeat fossil]

[winged reef]

Afaik in the og you always didn’t wipe they just did a lot of dmg

Wipe mechs were only in desolate tomb and onwards I think

And in 4m / hard mode

[grave hawk]

TSM wiped pretty sure, remember ppl eating random knockbacks and failing cut

[silver moth]

They even can not add the threat, what make u think raid will fix it

[winged reef]

Yea TSM was during the 55 patch in live

[somber kiln]

TSM was fun

The first dungeon I actually learned mechs for

[winged reef]

But we only have 1 difficulty so it seems they take it from easy mode / 6m since we also have boss attack markings on the floor

[somber kiln]

But i had like 150ms
Running up the broken stair incline thing would always bug me

And rubberband me down

At least once

[gilded thistle]

What event?

[winged reef]

More purple fragments pls

[upbeat fossil]

i get that they're trying to lure new people in, but how ret*rded must they be that they just completely dismiss the current players with returner/newbie events they do

[silver moth]

They think we can clear all contents with blue book

[upbeat fossil]

but only if the blue book is bound and random. can't be too generous

[spiral sky]

You can

Just need max gear

Max stats

All purple insignas and leg cards

[gilded thistle]

[silver moth]

And play kfm

[astral tendon]

Tbh, I don’t think I can meet shadowmoor requirement with blue book

Tree maybe

[spiral sky]

Yeah max leg ss is trash

[gilded thistle]

Barely drops any tbh

[spiral sky]

That's not the point

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

All the content is quite easy, you just need to swipe enough

[gilded thistle]

It would be easier if they uncap the level on this maintenance

[grave hawk]

Worst decision they can make

[silver moth]

I don't like leveling like this

[spiral sky]

Griding levels

2000 mmo era

[gilded thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-lineage-2-gif-6916473910816243520

[upbeat fossil]

lvl 100 reward is gona be gray fusion insignia

[spiral sky]

Msp is giving me skilroad vibes

F that

At least u dont loose xp when u die

[winged reef]

There’s a chat option for “XP lost”. Guess they never used it

-100k xp every time you die

Screw it, make msp a pvp area

If you want xp you gotta fight for it

[primal hound]

why u exposing my noob dmg

[spiral sky]

You can not do that right now

You read that with a female voice in ur head

[winged reef]

Oh, you okay? Looks painful

[spiral sky]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-this-is-fine-gif-20102174

[winged reef]

https://youtu.be/ouJUBusD1io?si=hZTsKur9kBmPAiZ2

[spiral sky]

Someone hack their database

And inject some xp charms im my account

[astral tendon]

The thing is by giga whale , is at least 4-5 leg dt to start with

leg dt 78 stacks is doing 30% ish less damage than puncture 66 stacks, to fix that you will need 3-4 additional leg dt on top of the first one

To just do the same damage

Maybe 5 cos diminishing return

After that is pure damage increase so theoretically, dt is the best build this patch if you can stack it to 200+

can get to 234 stacks

[silver moth]

Or wait till they buff DT

Maybe 3 days before game eos

[astral tendon]

dt silverforst badge were nerfed

Wdym buff

Should be thankful if they don’t delete the skill

[silver moth]

Actually, it will better if the delete it

I have the reason to quit

[spiral sky]

U already have

U just delaying

[silver moth]

[astral tendon]

also , fm will be doing 400k/s in silverforst

So might as well delete bm

I can start to complain about fm rather than wind bd next month

[spiral sky]

I saw a lot kr rerolling to fms

[silver moth]

Bis fm still dragonchar?

[astral tendon]

I have no idea which mathematical genius think give wicked twins dragon 80ap multiplier with 18s cd and can be cut to a half from badges a good idea

Is all on wicked twins dragon

[silver moth]

Beside, wind BD still doing the thing they always do

[astral tendon]

Dragonchar still 💩 at leg level

Ice rain is good, but majority of your damage came from wicked twin dragons

[silver moth]

Well, leg dragonchar is a 💩

[spiral sky]

Stacked ice fm with that double element skillbon 48

[astral tendon]

You are hitting 2.5m damage every 9 seconds from wicked twin dragon

[silver moth]

Wicked twin dragon leg is different

Yeah, leg wicked dragon is really op

[astral tendon]

1.5 sec channel for the first one

Not even 2.5

[silver moth]

Meanwhile leg DT and TDS

B... But Execute have 48 stack effect

[astral tendon]

is not like puncture is good compare to those

Puncture is also 💩 compare to those op stuff

Just less 💩

[silver moth]

Galeforce 48 stack give extend 2s rage duration

Punc already broken to 💩

It no need more broken

[astral tendon]

This patch broken

Silverforst not one of them most broken build anymore

tho probably still pretty good

[silver moth]

It not punc from 10 to 9

[astral tendon]

Now is only below wind bd I guess, and that include ppl with 1 leg book

[silver moth]

Just other from 7 to 8

Sum get buff

Good for them

They deserve

[astral tendon]

Puncture doing comparable, even more damage compare to most of the leg book at 1 book

[spiral sky]

Still waiting you to get china ue4 files

And open a server

[silver moth]

[somber kiln]

We believe in the DT buff 🙏🏽

Soon ™️

Wl is just proof that these guys dont know what they’re doing

How are you hyping up a class release

For so long

And made it complete ass?

[winged reef]

Nostalgia from live probably

[sage tulip]

what were the puncture gm bonuses again?

[spiral sky]

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회천령 사용 중 공격력의 150% 추가 피해
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명중 시 3초간 치명 확률 2% 증가 (최대 5중첩)

Ur welcome

[sage tulip]

hwicheonryung

i see

[spiral sky]

Thats E i think

Trash

[sage tulip]

yeah add dmg is garbage anyway

[spiral sky]

Oh

Badge combo

Poggers

[astral tendon]

18 is somewhat useful, 48 is the real useful part

30 is useless

Also I think stone slash might not be worth if you don’t have 3 leg stone slash

Probably just stack another puncture would be better

[sage tulip]

[spiral sky]

Only if it makes you hit 48gms

[green schooner]

Gaming

[spiral sky]

Where

I saw that

[green schooner]

Nuh uh

[sick bison]

speaking of stoneslash, WTB purple stone slash EU

[spiral sky]

Thats the anime Royale?

[silver moth]

If new class don't have party buff

Then what the point to play it

[sick bison]

you can enjoy doing half BM dps with 3x the investment, while having 0 personal or party utility

what's not to love

[spiral sky]

U get cool dragons

[sick bison]

sounds like a fair trade off tbh

[astral tendon]

Zero is doing 70% of my damage wdym

Maybe 60%

definitely more than half

[silver moth]

Even DT animation is not dragon anymore

[winged reef]

New GM effect on TDS dropping tomorrow

[sick bison]

who's zero

[twin lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193429164955541554/1378515115305074789/ezgif-3afd1dab356f39.gif

Why is it deleted though?

https://tenor.com/view/the-mob-fear-city-new-york-vs-the-mafia-the-mafia-italian-gangsters-new-york-gangsters-gif-17815749

[astral tendon]

Probably dt first

[somber kiln]

Ong?

[winged reef]

They already “buffed” fire with heat effect

[gilded thistle]

Right

[somber kiln]

Thats hardly a buff my guy
It just pushes us to meet the aesthetic with using searing slash

[hybrid willow]

16 stack 48k on tree

[somber kiln]

Lmao

[somber kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054497

[somber kiln]

Lemme guess
10ms?

[hybrid willow]

13

[winged reef]

Yea that’s nice but what’s the loot

[winged reef]

A change nonetheless

[somber kiln]

Also

[spiral sky]

13 ms

Why i play this

[somber kiln]

What can I buy trans stone with again?

Is it the crystals from ritual?

Forgot

[winged reef]

Yea

[somber kiln]

You online?

How much for one

[hybrid willow]

10

[somber kiln]

Yikes

[winged reef]

I think it’s 5 now? Regardless it’s only 3 per week

[winged reef]

Move a bit closer to server

You only need 50ms for lightning

[astral tendon]

only need 30ish for puncture

Below 30 only increases your risk of 133 dc without adding any benifit

[sick bison]

another good macro fix is to remove excess low delay inputs from your puncture, for example if you have t 5 t 5 t 70 etc, removing the 5 ms ones fixed it for me on earlier macro testing

[astral tendon]

Also focus recovery cat boost puncture by a lot, even more than boost to leg dt

So purple dt will never compete to that

tho even without cat purple dt will do less anyway

[winged reef]

DT gains no benefit from focus recovery

[astral tendon]

Leg dt have benifit from the grab itself

[winged reef]

Leg yea

[astral tendon]

purple dt is cooked

[winged reef]

Summ grab also counts?

[astral tendon]

Count

[spiral sky]

That's 70ms diference

[astral tendon]

Is all relative, if I move extensively I dc from tab t r 3 key macro with 150 150 170 delay

i can easily recreate that in mushin tower dummy room

Just hold macro for 40-50 seconds and keep moving

The only ‘fix’ for me is to try to limited my movement, and stop holding macro for a second or 2 if I hold it for too long

[spiral sky]

Try remove that hold key press on options

[astral tendon]

How is that gonna work, press to play then press again to stop?

I guess later on, skill for bm would become how to hold macro in a way to prevent dc

[spiral sky]

There's a check box on options that enable to spam skill when you hold the keybind

[astral tendon]

Rather than thumb placement for other class

Oh in game setting?

[spiral sky]

When disabled, if you hold it only do one input

Yeah

[astral tendon]

That’s neat

I could try that

[sick bison]

that is weird, my current macro I can not dc, I test them on dummy first then on baylee by 360 around it the entire fight, can't dc

but I have that thing done that skyze just suggested

might be the key

[sage tulip]

o well

[sick bison]

[sage tulip]

kept running around on dummy for 1 min 18 sec

[astral tendon]

Timing might be different

For me I do randomly smash direction keys

So it’s quicker

If I just hold direction keys is slower

But eventually dc as well

anyone submit tickets on this

[sage tulip]

what are you gonna say, we dc when holding macro and moving?

xd

[spiral sky]

Weird

By default bns only register keys inputs every 250ms

On holding

And changed that to 10ms, not ask me how

And i never got any dcs problems

My hybrid macro is TTR no sleeps

[sage tulip]

with hybird i was never dcing

[sick bison]

this is an issue only on very specific builds

dragonchar fm, pierce/puncture bm

[spiral sky]

Still i play punc

Never got dced

[sage tulip]

even if you move around constantly?

[spiral sky]

One loop of my macro is 12 inputs

[sage tulip]

i mean ur ping is cooked no?

[spiral sky]

Yeah

Did you guys tried that ddos config

On engine?

[sage tulip]

yeah i have that

[spiral sky]

[sage tulip]

doesnt seem to help much

[spiral sky]

[winged reef]

Just do less damage

[spiral sky]

Its to nerf low pings

[shadow field]

WTS Purple puncture EU

[sage tulip]

i mean its fine

im just not running around like naruto

and dont dc

[spiral sky]

U guys should use vpn to get 130ms

No more dcs

Ez fix

[honest timber]

couldn't find the file 😔

[spiral sky]

#1357788582617813132 message

[honest timber]

I have that copied, I mean I didn't find the Engine.ini on game files

but it's ok, I just stop spamming from time to time

this is getting fixed in sf, right?

[sage tulip]

surely

[hidden pawn]

@astral tendon so wat is dps ranking in silverfrost?

[astral tendon]

some kr ppl told me it was fixed in sf

But idk

Is not reliable source

Enterlag might be the legit fix in the future

[spiral sky]

%LocalAppData%\BNSR\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

[somber kiln]

Whats that

Exitlag?

[spiral sky]

Yeah

You choose a location away from server

[astral tendon]

Choose a node with consistent 40-50 ping

Might be the legit fix

[honest haven]

all bs aside, this is the thing that made me want to quit the most https://i.imgur.com/BBdh6Yz.png

like por que

theres never a reason to give this option

[solar python]

oh

there is a reason

you just don't like the reason

it wastes your resources

[valid cradle]

Gotta know when to stop lol

[honest haven]

I was thinking more like ingame reason, they can waste my gold without spitting on my face by giving me evasion instead or something

at least that makes a tiny bit of sense

the only reason this exists I can think of is either incompetence or malicious gold sink

[solar python]

It makes sense though

they made the reroll system

the probably know you can roll lower than the stat you already have

and when they asked if they should fix that

NCSoft said no

[honest haven]

were they asked about it?

[solar python]

when the devs asked the higher ups

is what I meant

higher ups said no

costs money to fix it

[honest haven]

is this your intuition? I'm asking if its confirmed to have happened

like a CM giving our feedback or something

[solar python]

its the only explanation

[honest haven]

it could just be incompetence

devs cant think of every possibility, bugs exist etc

either way

it made me log out

[solar python]

the systems are not junk, they are not incompetently made

they are made exactly as they want them

network stuff and connection might be ass but that is very likely only because they cheaped out on the servers

other than that the game is giga

[gilded thistle]

back to back to back

#lovebnsneo

[solar python]

thats like 20 divine gems

crazy loot

[honest timber]

It doesn't work for me. I tried on dummy and got dc but it did take longer than other times so I guess it's doing something

[winged reef]

[honest timber]

https://tenor.com/view/ogli-gif-17468683305861986751

[astral tendon]

at least you got it now

gz

[gilded thistle]

[valid cradle]

Better to hit 100% than succeed the upgrade at 90%

[spiral sky]

ok crit detection sux for high ping

[sick bison]

how high are we talking

[spiral sky]

130ms

[sick bison]

that'll do it

[spiral sky]

50ms or less should be fine

im doing a way to inport and export timings

[sick bison]

yeah I tested on 9, 40, 50

[spiral sky]

so u guys can shareit

[sick bison]

results for 9 and 40 were the exact same

no difference in dps

[winged reef]

[spiral sky]

who wants to beta test

?

[odd mantle]

hook me up

[loud hinge]

if i cant open any punct build's book, i dont think i can switch build

[spiral sky]

[solar python]

if only they made some good updates

you know?

stimulate the economy

[sick bison]

if only someone sold me some purple pierce books in eu

this is what I've resulted to after my selection boxes were stolen

[solar python]

economy that is dead in the water and decomposing from several infectious diseases, 5 different species of rodents chewing through the corpse and 6 different species of fungi growing on it

the alligators took the legs man

[vivid robin]

o7

[hidden pawn]

Can i

[grand dirge]

[gilded thistle]

[somber kiln]

thats what happened with my belt ascension

900g

jfc

[loud hinge]

god of rng blesses u

[astral tendon]

i havent dc after i disable the skill thing in setting in shadowmoor today

but not sure if it is because of me restricting movement or not

cos way less tentacles hit me today

since we know the tech to let them aim range more

apperently at least for the first and maybe the 2nd phase, they always aim whoever enter the arena last

[sage tulip]

our sum went in last and doesnt get targeted by them

[astral tendon]

idk we did 5-6 runs, fm enter after the other 3 enter

fm always get aimed

some cinder guy did 20+ runs with this

and range always get aimed

[sage tulip]

yeah they target cat apparently :D

[astral tendon]

i mean sum can do that, same with wl

[sage tulip]

it worked with fm when we did

spaghetti ass game

[loud hinge]

I miss the days i got smashed by those tentacles and failed mech

Planted the tentacles as close as i could. 0.001 inch mis-step => reset

[twin lark]

https://youtu.be/vc8SpztiOV0

[somber kiln]

heading there

just to reiterate

this belt took 9 taps to ascend

now almost full pity to awakened

love it here

[twin lark]

Look at the bright side, already maxed stats

[somber kiln]

not sure bout that buddy

[twin lark]

Oh sht

[somber kiln]

gonna slap me in the face and not even hit 200 on any

[winged reef]

[somber kiln]

is this what they intend their players to go through?

[twin lark]

Social experiment

[somber kiln]

im getting cuhcked in the worst ways possible

maybe if i was a puncture bm

i'd have better luck

🤨

also @loud hinge this is what single stat is going for lmao

[twin lark]

That guy has been trying to sell that for almost a week now

A bit overpriced for such a low CR

[sage tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-cute-kitty-cat-smol-gif-15025299313902034810

[solar tiger]

Aww that kitty doing tiny Biskuits

[sage tulip]

😭

[loud hinge]

Man, i said fair price. And the fool listed that stupid price doesn’t seem fair at all

[spiral sky]

need to whale harder

[somber kiln]

8 whole hours for us to touch grass

wonderful

[winged reef]

They are gonna break something

The longer the maintenance the higher chance

[spiral sky]

[silver moth]

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[twin lark]

Does sf patch give us more ways to farm hm essences?

[rain horizon]

you can have few hundred essences in less than a hour

buy msp essences and let it roll while u sleep

[gilded thistle]

[sick bison]

WTB Purple pierce EU

[twin lark]

Nice plan, except i'm not gonna spend dgs on RNG

[rain horizon]

where is the rng part

[wooden rain]

Everywhere

[vocal hamlet]

WTB >> Heavenly Slasher 3.5k gems

[honest haven]

imagine spending 1500 gold on a belt 💀 my condolences

[spiral sky]

[somber kiln]

And imagine this was me grinding as a f2p

Tree was good to me

I got couple well sellable items

But still

This belt has set me back by so much progress

[gilded thistle]

Accurate

[silver moth]

i grind tree till the last hmb, still got nothing

[gilded thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

Bunch of keys and green mantra yesterday..

Legendary loot indeed

[upbeat fossil]

it's alright man, you can turn 30 of those keys into 15 valor stones

[gilded thistle]

Ah yes

[winged reef]

I think I’ll hold off on ascending my belt

And keep the ascent stones for SF

[hybrid willow]

and imagine waiting silverfrost and get a better belt for nothing

[honest haven]

Yeah I have a decent belt already getting 2 more ap isn’t that enticing to me

[mortal briar]

What are the recommended AP, CR, CD for playing poharan guys ?

[honest haven]

Depends what build

Oh I thought he meant solo

[somber kiln]

well it kinda saves me from farming for double crit belt again

[honest haven]

[somber kiln]

and can just evo straight to the new belt

i still got 52 ascent stones

[hybrid willow]

gl need 210 for all stuff

[somber kiln]

yeah, it'll come around eventually

[sage tulip]

,

[honest haven]

Yeah I have an lmb tab alt around 700 ap 1.5 cr 1.3 cd lvl 47 doing fairly well there, it’s just rough finding a party xd

[sage tulip]

almost

[mortal briar]

so 700 ap and 1k cr cd enough ?

[valid cradle]

Yeah but you can probably get into it with no gear

[honest haven]

What build tho

[valid cradle]

Just wont be accepted by all parties

[astral tendon]

apply me if i do it at some point

[mortal briar]

lmb and tab

[astral tendon]

I take everyone

[mortal briar]

cyclone + lunar slash combo

[honest haven]

Lmb tab u should be fine dmg wise for sure

With green stacks

[mortal briar]

that possible if full blue books

ap 700 + 1k cr cd , full blue book my team

i run with my statik party

[honest haven]

I just have one blue lunar and one blue block for hmb, do like 6-7k tab 2-3k lmb

[wooden rain]

Don't be braindead is your requirement

[astral tendon]

At this day and age is sort of doesn’t matter, cos ppl either don’t check so you get in anyway cos there is a carry, or ppl ask for 900 + cos of purple train.

[honest haven]

There are carries but a few days now it has been rough finding one

Eventually if u have patience u get it

[main inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mutsuki-dance-mutsuki-dance-gif-27347758

[astral tendon]

yeah cos poh and chief becoming redundant now, ppl will solo if they have blessing and ppl won’t bother if they don’t have blessing just for daily

I sometimes do it but not every day for sure

[mortal briar]

so poh and cs just need ap 700 and 1k cr cd full blue book?

[astral tendon]

Not cs my friend

[mortal briar]

jusst poh ?

xD

[honest haven]

CS has higher requirements but more geared ppl run it separately so it’s easier to get carried imo

But ye to carry your own weight probably what regal said

Don’t need purple for your build to

Tho *

[mortal briar]

I'm currently level 49, I heard that level 50 gets a purple book, what should I take as a bm?

[astral tendon]

Is a random one

[honest haven]

kek

[astral tendon]

You can forget about what should you take

[mortal briar]

oh random ?

[honest haven]

That’s benus for ya

[mortal briar]

[gilded thistle]

It's okay. You'll get a puncture trust

[astral tendon]

I actually didn’t dc yesterday

maybe disable the use skill repeatedly did something

[sage tulip]

you tried on dummy?

[gilded thistle]

Only had one DC but that was me pulling my router plug

[winged reef]

For poh chef even 600-650 is enough

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

Actually not dummy

[spiral sky]

Just gonna do dailies and log out until SF

[winged reef]

Thats with how much ap we’d do it when it came out

[astral tendon]

Just in shadowmoor

I’ll probably try dummy today

[sage tulip]

[astral tendon]

It will probably still dc lol

[sage tulip]

yeah it does for me

[astral tendon]

if not is time to lower the delay to 40ms and go burrrr again

[sage tulip]

but im not dcing in moookwan so its fine ig

[winged reef]

I did bbr poh chef and pigsty without blessings last night just to help a party get their DC done

[astral tendon]

Apparently, tmr kr will update both badges for hs