Blade Master

[jaunty lark]

Btw "Fixed an issue where Critical Rate Bonus effect would not stack for 'Cyclone' and 'Lunar Slash: Combo'."

[wooden rain]

What

[jaunty lark]

That meanw with tab crit qnd cyclone ccrit?

[simple jacinth]

yah a week sooner

[jaunty lark]

Or that our cyclone didnt work as expected?

[simple jacinth]

so peeps have a reason to go to steam

[wooden rain]

Which news said that? I missed it

[simple jacinth]

No news..inside info

[sharp current]

steam is the same version as purple

[simple jacinth]

yah ..eventually but they get WL first

[odd dagger]

kr prolly jst gave a bunch of patch notes they posted together kek.
This seems like a patch which they fixed after adding lunar purple

[craggy hawk]

anyone here use msi afterburner? think its crashing my game but not sure

[simple jacinth]

No its DDOS atm for EU Cinderlands

give it some time it will settle

[jaunty lark]

So its with purp tab then. Welp, didnt expect ncsoft to do things right tbh. At least we got them, although they gonna take years to fix

[little moat]

Its not msi.

[craggy hawk]

youre using it and have no crashes?

[little moat]

Everybody is crashing

France and Germany cant even login

Purple is ded

[simple jacinth]

XD

but guys dont forget to Buy the outfits and battlepass

!!! support NCSOFT

[little moat]

The ddos event is back

[craggy hawk]

i can log in and play, its just when i open that, game crashes

might be coincidence tho

[little moat]

#1377133021504868373 message

Disable any antivirus (even if you don't have one windows default one).
Game is flagged as a virus and cannot launch since the update.
I turn off all antivirus features and game launched (including firewall).
Nothing else worked.
If you use ESET NOD 32 turn off HIPS. Windows default antivirus also has HIPS apparently. Look up how to disable it.

Game is a virus

HAHAHAHAHA

You can't make this shiz up i swear

They still be dying

Valira trying so hard to carry

perma full hp tanking one

[slender kelp]

guys my tummy hurts :(

[little moat]

What did you do 😦

[odd dagger]

rajin is just easier i think , its fm mob

[grave hawk]

Doesnt the wind need a good block

Think its rly hard with spinner classes

Skyrus did you try tree yet?

[odd dagger]

no im at work

but i dont think i can unless i have some big dik summoner carrying me with focus

[wooden rain]

Sounds like AVs are doing their job

[little moat]

@astral tendon Man down

[upbeat fossil]

so...
---Searing Slash (Heroic) > Added "6 second Heat effect on activation" and "Koldrak’s Burning Wrath, Dragontongue and Sun Stroke 50-50 additional damage during Heat effect".---
does this make Searing Slash > stone slash?

[odd dagger]

for fire , searing is better , yea

[astral tendon]

I’ll probably roll back to puncture for rajin if needed

I can’t spin around out of the yellow circle , if I stand on top the tornado will knock up eventually

Counter is fine, I stop hit at that

Dps fcked tho

[little moat]

The wind one sucks wiener to hit

Just swap with monke

[astral tendon]

[little moat]

Destro beyblade brrr

[astral tendon]

The thing is

Puncture pierce counter

[brave pendant]

you'd have to hold puncture and not R TAB

[astral tendon]

So you don’t even have to worry about it

I mean I know when the counter is coming

Can just hold rmb

[odd dagger]

cant u jst Q and hit from behind

or is counter omni directional

[wooden rain]

It isn't

[astral tendon]

I just stop hitting

You can hit from the behind

Tho dps is not really an issue cos no timer

[wooden rain]

It's also possible to counter the counter if you're fast

[little moat]

Just go puncture so you can actually block

[brave pendant]

still have to stop and wait for the counter animation and QE / walk around before you continue attacking

[astral tendon]

Yeah counter always face your direction

At the start

If they still there at night I’ll probably roll back to puncture

[wooden rain]

Money well spent

[fickle loom]

is the counter like widows counter?

because puncture won’t ignore that I don’t think

[wooden rain]

It's the same kfm counter that everything else uses

[fickle loom]

it ignores parry

that wouldn’t ignore KFM counter

[grave hawk]

You can just q the counter as far as i remember. Its more reactable

[astral tendon]

It does ignore twins counter tho

So I assume it would be the same for fujin

Or maybe not

I’m pretty sure puncture go through twins counter cos I use to hold rmb for that

[green schooner]

chat whats the difference between the event skins

[little moat]

One give fancy glow, other doesn't

[green schooner]

wheres the true difference

[gilded thistle]

So you were not just keep doing rotation and press block to counter her counter?

[green schooner]

screens?

[gilded thistle]

oof

[little moat]

Fancy one

Regular one is the same without pixel rotating matrix shiz

[wooden rain]

More visual clutter, great

Game's not obscured enough yet

[green schooner]

i'd disable thatr in the settings lol

thanks

[little moat]

Just get the normie skin

weapon is the same but no clutter

[wooden rain]

I like the siren weapon look

[astral tendon]

now I’m feeling really bad to reroll to fire

[wooden rain]

Just fix your skill and you won't need rereroll

[odd dagger]

in tw , new purples arent bugged

is just nca things

kek

[astral tendon]

Tho that fujin hurts pretty bad though block as well

[little moat]

Just tell Caera to stop dying

And you can rb

[astral tendon]

Just need to find someone to tank it

[wooden rain]

4 hours in couldn't even keep the boss rotated the same direction

Shame to all tanks

[green schooner]

should I pilot you my friend

[little moat]

Sounds like ginyz and TT/ET

That was a fun watch

[wooden rain]

I'm gonna make a wl and tank better than pug bms/kfms kekw

[little moat]

The man had 11 raid members rotate clockwise cuz he couldn't Q/E in time

[odd dagger]

kr got extra bubbles for card set

and new wb

[fickle loom]

oh boy oh boy time I spin wheel again that is so POGGERS

[dull sentinel]

question: the meteor strike change (other spell of X "boot") , the description is changed to : inflicts knockdown - X amount of dmg - Triggers 6 seconds

what triggers for 6 seconds

[little moat]

Heat.

Adds 0.5x AP additional damage onto Koldrak's, Sun Stroke, Dragontongue for 6 seconds.

[dull sentinel]

ty

so i assume this is bis or good to have?

[odd dagger]

yes

[jaunty lark]

So, tim to swap to fire and profit from the lv50 meteor strike

Tho probably not gonna be worth it for my ass

[vapid rivet]

where is light buff

[little moat]

On bns live

[vapid rivet]

d0gshjt

[little moat]

This could've been you

[vapid rivet]

fire got heat , punture pierce got tab

[little moat]

but you had to play lightning

[vapid rivet]

light got nothing

[grave hawk]

Wdym black dragon rancor

[hard iris]

Light got bdr

[grave hawk]

3 more seconds

[vapid rivet]

whicch one

skill 3 ?

[grave hawk]

Yep

[vapid rivet]

haha

[grave hawk]

Its useless but

Needed 6s

[vapid rivet]

nice buff

n1 buff

[odd dagger]

its just enough to complete full rotation

well missing 2 sec from perfect

but BDR is like 1 sec animation itself

[little moat]

Did rancor get the dps buff aswell?

Cuz I got a bound boy

[odd dagger]

yes

[little moat]

[odd dagger]

34.5x ap

[little moat]

Useable?

Over blue punc?

yes yes.

[grave hawk]

You need to use it with bd though

Its not enough

[little moat]

Ye just Q 3

Or SS 3

if i ss* I gotta leave draw anyway

[odd dagger]

its not worth for puncture though. cause u cant use it every 36 sec

unless u get stoneslash leggy

then everytime u pop stone slash u can exit with bdr

[little moat]

Sync with flock?

vvc q x 3

[odd dagger]

dont think its worth the dmg

for 1min c

d

[grave hawk]

You can exit for free with e or qe

[little moat]

No sjit

[odd dagger]

but if u can use it of 36 sec cd

it should a decent dps

[little moat]

What else gives me bdr

[odd dagger]

sadly nothing

[little moat]

dang

rancor more like wrancor

[odd dagger]

whenever they decides to give purple stone some bdr

it becomes good combo

[gilded thistle]

VVCQX rancor

[little moat]

Thats what I just said!

But its 60s cd then

[gilded thistle]

[odd dagger]

previsous rancor was 24x ap iirc?

[grave hawk]

Think its still the same

[odd dagger]

its 34.5 now

[grave hawk]

Just with extra dmg during bd

[odd dagger]

previous was 24x total

when will they clear with double boss in lab

its been years

[little moat]

Not soon

Cuz one has to leave soontm

[winged reef]

The state of tanking in 2025

[little moat]

About to go agane

[wooden rain]

Makes me wish there was a normalized version of the dungeon

Is it actually that hard? Like, it sure doesn't look like it

But they've been dying forever

[simple jacinth]

its not hard and it was way more fun on live, cuz this is just a Simple mode version of it with inflated stats to keep the FOMO alive

[wooden rain]

I played it on live yes

But I don't have that good a memory to remember how it went 10 years ago

[stark saffron]

is purple tab still broken?

[jaunty lark]

You mean lab?

[wooden rain]

It's been half a day wtf do you expect

Try asking in a week

[jaunty lark]

@wooden rain

[wooden rain]

Are you asking regarding this?

[jaunty lark]

Y

[wooden rain]

Well yeah

[jaunty lark]

On live it was mainly mechs, you needed to do specifix ccs in order, and ofc the dual Boss

But stat wise they didnt do much dmg at all. But wellz on neo even blue dungeons hit u quite a lot so

[wooden rain]

So anyone with a functioning brain adapted to that style by now

But whales used money to skip that part kek

[craggy hawk]

the original devs were just better

live was better designed

neo is ass cause the new devs are ass

[wooden rain]

Ah come on, og bns devs probably left as soon as live came out if not before

[jaunty lark]

I mean, game went to sht the minute they left, so ye

They were goated

[wooden rain]

Designed a good game and then ncsoft came in and made it sh*t on purpose

I'm surprised the stream is still going

Would be funnier if it was off and i saw them selling their gear this evening

[astral tendon]

How is the lab progress

Did they cleared

[little moat]

Nope

Another 2.5h wasted

[wooden rain]

Forget cleared, they didn't beat the bosses that don't have a timer

They weren't even on the bingo list

[winged reef]

Wait until they get to the last one

[wooden rain]

I'm not gonna wait 3 weeks

[grave hawk]

3 weeks to wipe

[wooden rain]

When did kr get buffed book drop rates?

[mossy kite]

Anyone got purple tab yet?

[wooden rain]

It's bugged

[astral tendon]

You can pick it

[wooden rain]

Unusable

[astral tendon]

Oh wait is it

[wooden rain]

Check the bugs channel

[astral tendon]

I mean meteor strike and searing although has the icon wrong, it worked

[wooden rain]

Well tab just doesn't

Try it

[little moat]

Its not bugged guys, It's just a Teaser about what's too come

[astral tendon]

is what puncture gonna get i guess

[rotund compass]

whale pass for tab, doesnt work lel

[astral tendon]

guess I’ll stick with fire

[rotund compass]

fire goat sell all punct to me

[fickle loom]

surely this gets hotfixed 🙂

coincidentally this is my first day playing Blade & Soul

[slender kelp]

Should i update the game

[little moat]

https://tenor.com/view/delete-app-rudy-ayoub-remove-delete-take-out-gif-17726164

[slender kelp]

I haven't been paying much attention so i don't have a full grasp of how bad it is kek

[grave hawk]

The only thing they introduced is bugs

[little moat]

Tldr, everything new is broken
Dungeons are undoable cuz whale fest
New wep illusions costs 50g, we got 50g from event.
New "shirt" outfits costs 5k.

Thats it pmuch

[grave hawk]

old shirt outfit from 2016

[slender kelp]

I didnt even do the full event

I dont think i did bsh 1 or 2 for the duration

[gilded thistle]

[slender kelp]

But of course they're gonna charge extra for the coomer outfit

That's a given

[winged reef]

Now all new skills are broken

[gilded thistle]

Its not even that good

[winged reef]

Purple Z looks fine

[gilded thistle]

How much can we sell it for?

the new outfit i mean

[slender kelp]

Should be around 250 if following the other outfits' ratios

Maybe a bit higher

[astral tendon]

262.5 I think?

Or 252.5

Is the same ratio as the other outfit

So as long as the f5 gold is more than 1904, it’s better to buy the outfit

[little moat]

Wasnt calico 146.5*?

[astral tendon]

Tree is pretty doable

[little moat]

For you

Not for me

[astral tendon]

Lab is all skill issue as of now

[slender kelp]

Calico was 156 i think

[astral tendon]

Calico was 156

I can probably carry 1 person

According to Caera’s meter I end up with 41k on tree

[rain nimbus]

Great game yall

[astral tendon]

how accurate it is? I don’t know

[rain nimbus]

Time to pack it up for bpsr

[astral tendon]

Tree is pretty much just a dummy

[grave hawk]

How much acc is tree?

[hard iris]

well AKSHULLY calico was 157,5

[gilded thistle]

[wooden rain]

how much do you have on hae

[astral tendon]

45-50 depends on how much I f up

[grave hawk]

So you need pretty much 30k-ish

[astral tendon]

But with how tree operates, if hae moves the same, I’d probably do 50 every time

[hard iris]

man I really hate mobile game tutorials, but I guess it's understandable usual audiance for those typa games must be hella braindamaged

[astral tendon]

Tree don’t move, all attack can be side stepped, circles can be skipped by cc

So is basically dps dummy

[grave hawk]

Its the same rotation as hh?

[astral tendon]

Don’t know I just walk out the yellow circle and red circle

[odd dagger]

tree got yellows?

[astral tendon]

Pizza don’t 1 shot either

You can eat like 3 and be fine

[hard iris]

nono

YOU can eat 3 and be fine

kappalul

[odd dagger]

maybe you can

[astral tendon]

Well I mean I can

But it doesn’t 1 shot

[hard iris]

watch me get his and choke on my own vomit

[astral tendon]

Tree boss 1 is harder than tree

[spiral sky]

Just hm block pizza

[astral tendon]

Now I’m back down to 72 dt

But I have double kd and hmb

I’m surprised I’m actually a team player

Instead of going to 78dt

[slender kelp]

BMs don't have to cc, it's in the game rules

Terms of service

[wooden rain]

low standards

[astral tendon]

Well I actually didn’t cc in tree, I use x on cd pretty much

[wooden rain]

oh so you have buffs already

so your hae is probably higher

[astral tendon]

True

Y heat buff is already there

[wooden rain]

meanwhile some dude on market kekw

[astral tendon]

Bought it last patch for like 1.5 or something

[wooden rain]

both meteor and searing listed for 2x-3x what they were previously by people who think nobody looks at KR patches in advance

[astral tendon]

Same for searing slash

[wooden rain]

well they're gonna have fun listing downwards for the next few weeks

[astral tendon]

I’m smart for once

[wooden rain]

bruh legs are replacing bbr-poh tier of daily quests

[slender kelp]

This will surely be good for the casual playerbase

[astral tendon]

Poh doesn’t even give exp anymore I think?

Which is 💩

Like how normal player gonna level

[wooden rain]

🤔 the dailies do

[astral tendon]

Well it’s gonna be slower

[solar python]

they won't

[wooden rain]

you mean the boss itself? that depends on your own level

[astral tendon]

Y

Think lv55 poh has no exp anymore?

[solar python]

any new player is just gonna wait for steam server, if there is anyone still interested in playing that hasn't already

[slender kelp]

Game's balancing lead is just some crack addict chimp they keep locked in a basement with a typewriter

[wooden rain]

well that's not a new thing

[slender kelp]

Whatever the chimp types the devs do

[astral tendon]

at least normal player with ok gear and hand/macro can do cs last time

Tree? Probably not

Lab, I mean it is skill issue but we probably won’t clear even if we pass the split phase

And we have a chance to clear split phase cos all 4 of us can tank a full cc bar hits with 3/4 hp

[stark saffron]

there was an insider leak that nc staff got lobotomized to meet diversity and inclusion targets

[astral tendon]

I didn’t see any dei in game

Is limit your latest content to 8 players dei lol

[stark saffron]

lobotimes as in they need some % of r3tards working in the office

[astral tendon]

There are probably even less than 8

[slender kelp]

They must have failed bro there's no diversity cuz it's 100% of that

[stark saffron]

yah they might have overdone it honestly

[hard iris]

I don't get the drama around dailies

[wooden rain]

what drama around what dailies

[slender kelp]

I think it's a big problem that a dungeon only 1% or so of players can do is replacing more accessible dungeons in the dc

[hard iris]

this what's the whining about

I don#t get it

[wooden rain]

well it is stupid and inconvenient for almost everybody

non-grinders skip blues and field bosses, now it's forced

[hard iris]

tragic, you have to do 1 blue dgn and 1 field boss

ngl

might as well go kill myself

[wooden rain]

i don't think anyone was complaining to that tier

we saw, we called it stupid, we moved on

and it is stupid

[slender kelp]

If instead of field bosses it's ritual and you dont have long to play and no rituals spawn while you're playing well get fcked then i guess

[wooden rain]

kek

[rotund compass]

yeh i had a chuckle on that aswell

[wooden rain]

which is why i do ritual when it shows up and don't turn it in unless it's in dailies

[stark saffron]

gbut how they manage to realease patch thats been already released elsewhere with this bugs and skills not working

[wooden rain]

has anyone written up a basic to-do list for BP yet? there's a bunch of random sh*t in there i'm likely to forget

[slender kelp]

Just do daily things and hope for the best

[merry prairie]

Game dead yet?

[slender kelp]

@grok

[wooden rain]

last patch came out, give it 3 weeks to settle in

BP progression:
  28x daily:
    - login
  10x daily:
    - Mushin 1F
    - mvp Portrait Chest 1
    - Valor Stone Chest
    - Blue book transmute
    - Insignia fusion
    - poh + chef dailies
    - 3 Daily challenge quests completion
  3x daily:
    - CS-BSH2 dailies
    - profane daily
  4x weekly:
    - blue train
    - 2 weekly missions

i didn't include bgs, they can go f*ck themselves

[grave hawk]

How many days for max?

[wooden rain]

too lazy to count, i would say start of 3rd week because of weeklies

but in reality you could probably do it in 8 days

[slender kelp]

15 seconds with enough gems

[wooden rain]

who here is whale enough to do that

[slender kelp]

Definitely not me, haha

[fickle loom]

ahaha

haha

about that

[gilded thistle]

Did they fix it or?

[fickle loom]

naw

[gilded thistle]

Oh well

[winged reef]

You can still sell it

Or use it

[astral tendon]

ill is about to be wb no1 bm i guess

[winged reef]

Wait no don’t use it

[astral tendon]

Puncture broken

[wooden rain]

so the blindside buff for HS is r*tarded

E from draw stance doesn't boost

only the E that puts you on cooldown

[astral tendon]

I’m ready to learn some Chinese tech for fujin tank

[hard iris]

okay let me help you out

step 1: u log in
step 2:
step 3: DT 180GM

[violet elm]

bad bug did not give any xp from 54 to 55. From 55 to 56 it gives me xp. Not gonna complain, just where is the logic

[winged reef]

I always remember getting XP

[astral tendon]

174 gm doesn’t help the hand issue

[hard iris]

kill it

before it kills you

Big_Brain_Pulse

[astral tendon]

But there is a video explains how to walk around each attack and pull tornado

Tornado 🌪️ are annoying tho

[hard iris]

doesn't he has a long as wind-up animation for the nado's

[astral tendon]

Like you use 1 block from time to time, but it’s fine, I can hold rmb and save tab to use 1 block

[valid cradle]

I think it gave me xp today before I levelled to 55

[astral tendon]

No, the tornado spawn on him and just start to move

No animation

[wooden rain]

maybe you have some low level teammates

i believe that can affect the xp gain

[hard iris]

isn't there like a 2013 video explaining mechanics

[astral tendon]

Y there are some old ones, also is the same for the Chinese classic server

That one is probably exactly the same as us

[violet elm]

im talking both solo

[odd dagger]

Maybe swap koldrak for vortex if u need to block with 1 often

[wooden rain]

that won't save him, he won't have entries

[hard iris]

thinking about it, back then ppl were also haiting every new update

some things just never change

ameowsparkle

[violet elm]

For those wondering, purple searing slash over purple stone slash for hybrid seems like 2-3k dps difference in favor of searing slash.

[wooden rain]

don't talk like this update isn't worth hating

[hard iris]

I like it

the update is

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-gif-16944752780895267751

[wooden rain]

the only parts to like are the purple selector which won't prevent anyone from diving into depression trying to grind up 56-60

and the fact that the biggest whales can't clear lab due to skill issue

[valid cradle]

This was today solo @ 54

[hard iris]

man, almost as I've been saying it all the time that most of the problems player have boil down to skill issue

insane

KEKW~1

[violet elm]

i have no proof of that but maybe its the update, cause i guarantee you, before the update, 54-55 bay lee gave no xp

[rotund compass]

the tree thing should be reasonable to do tho?

[odd dagger]

It is

[wooden rain]

right let's cherry pick the one joke out of everything this update has done wrong

[hard iris]

surely people expected to clear 3 level below boss

Clueless~1

[wooden rain]

reasonable if you think a bigger jump than poh-cs is reasonable

[odd dagger]

I'm jst waiting for purple z from bp

Should be lv 56 by that time, then tree should be doable

[hard iris]

comfy daily content

Cat_Evil

[odd dagger]

Unless Sera boosts me with focus again, then I could do 24k in tree

[wooden rain]

i wish you find your summ carry just because i want to see how you do in reality there

[astral tendon]

With some practice it should be possible

Tw already have some clears, but then they have few ppl doing 70k to hae

[odd dagger]

Carry ur fellow bms daily when

Tw peeps are a diff breed of whales

[wooden rain]

@odd dagger btw parry boosts hs perfectly fine for me

[odd dagger]

Ya I tried it does boost

Jst hs bugs

[hard iris]

well tw has two huge factor.

1. More money
2. Hands

[wooden rain]

i've heard tw is huge on macros and bots

so i don't think 2. is accurate

[astral tendon]

I mean there are pilot

Most whale has pilot

Pilot do normally have hands

Is their job lol

[wooden rain]

clown world

[astral tendon]

In tw at least

I can probably find a pilot with my account that tank better and do more dps than me

[wooden rain]

me kekw

[astral tendon]

Always better players out there

[slender kelp]

Sometimes i wonder how I'd perform with stable fps and ping

[green schooner]

they really nerfed the buff for us and its not a typo???

it works completely different in kr

[wooden rain]

it was maybe just buffed twice in kr

[slender kelp]

How is it in kr

[green schooner]

nah only one change

검룡 효과 중 명중 시 마다 2초 검룡 효과 중첩(최대 5중첩)
Stacks 2 second Sword Dragon effect on each hit during Sword Dragon effect (max 5 stacks)

[slender kelp]

10 seconds of bd?

Jesus

[gilded thistle]

Test it cause translation might be dumbo

[green schooner]

tested it

[gilded thistle]

Oh rip

I had hopes

[green schooner]

actually let me test it myself on korea

[gilded thistle]

[green schooner]

because thats a huge nerf

and makes the skill still pretty useless

[gilded thistle]

Yeah not worth a slot if it's not the juicy 10s

[green schooner]

the skill itself almost takes 3s of animation

[winged reef]

Yast is not updated

This was patched a day into the patch

[odd dagger]

that was nerfed in a week in kr

[winged reef]

Back in April

[slender kelp]

yeah i'd definitely sacrifice 6 gm for that bdr

we're getting cucked lads

[gilded thistle]

You don't have to sacrifice gm

You task the rat to do hmb

[slender kelp]

but my hmb is also blade strike and i value blade strike more than my own life

[rotund compass]

[gilded thistle]

Oh damn

Well rush can go aswell

With pupa falcon now it's unnecessary

[slender kelp]

rush already went like a month ago kek

[gilded thistle]

I wouldn't recommend removing stone slash at least until we get some levels

[rotund compass]

is it just me or does the z-animationlock feels "better" now?

[slender kelp]

stone slash also has the synergy with blade strike so yeah

i think i'm down to the essentials already

54 gm

[gilded thistle]

More or less yeah. But blade strike oofas

[green schooner]

anyway surely we can gaslight them to change it back

[wooden rain]

hahano

[grave hawk]

the skill is crap

[wooden rain]

i feel like it's a better dps increase than one stack for fire/hybrid

[twin lark]

You forgot faction quests, they give a lot of XP

[wooden rain]

what part of XP impacts BP

[green schooner]

you never need bdb for fire hybrid

[wooden rain]

free damage though

[green schooner]

i'd rather continue rotation

[twin lark]

Well, not for BP but to level up in general, since you already doing all that, might aswell do faction

[wooden rain]

no

i do BP and that's it

[twin lark]

[wooden rain]

damage is damage

also it's one more button to press which is always nice

[twin lark]

Idk if i should pick purp tab or puncture

Enlighten me here

[green schooner]

just tab stack

its op with the new skill

[spiral sky]

Yeah

It is

Theres a new animation too

[twin lark]

Tab stacking once again?

[spiral sky]

You stare at the mobs

[green schooner]

new animation

[spiral sky]

Cause they F the patch

You can't even use the skill

[spiral sky]

Im going for punc

[twin lark]

I want punct too but tbh, i cna buy punct but for how much will that new tab go for when ppl get it from transmute? might be impossible to get

[odd dagger]

id say 20k at start

will go down later

[spiral sky]

Tab price It will be inflated as hell

But eventually drops

Like cyclone

[green schooner]

you dont generally stack it

[spiral sky]

In the other hand

[green schooner]

lower price in the loing run

[spiral sky]

Punc and dt

It always be expensive

[green schooner]

unless you want to amximise stack value getting 12 sacks into it

[spiral sky]

And if i get tab transmuted earlier

I would sell that sh1t

Make some bank

For punc stacks

[twin lark]

I seriously doubt purp tab price would be 20k, more like 100k cause you know, it's really good and not everyone has it, unless everyone gets it from BP

[spiral sky]

Just think for a sec

Whales already have main skill stacked

What else they would go for in selectable

I doubt it goes for 100

I mean people will put for that

[wooden rain]

1 main skill and sell the surplus

[spiral sky]

But whos gonna buy it

[spiral sky]

Falcon and tab is more attractive right now for them

[wooden rain]

meanwhile sunstrokes

i don't get people who list for 1 gem lower

i would buy the more expensive one on purpose

[spiral sky]

The earlier that they can runs leg dgs,the better

[wooden rain]

there's like what, 50 people that this applies to

[astral tendon]

You are thinking there are 50 puncture players in the server?

Well puncture + pierce

[wooden rain]

hs

[astral tendon]

Well + hs

Still not 50

[wooden rain]

you seriously underestimate basic stance popularity

[astral tendon]

Pierce probably like 3

Puncture probably like 10 or something

[slender kelp]

im in a more exclusive club than i thought

[rotund compass]

honestly tho every random bm i inspect is some sort of dt

every now and then i see a blue punct with breeze

[wooden rain]

nah i've seen quite a bit of variety

[rotund compass]

u cinder ya?

[wooden rain]

yea

[rotund compass]

me too, my argument stands - either its some weird random skills gamer or dt (from my point of view at least)

[worn rapids]

Maybe ppl play basic stance cz of their ping

[slender kelp]

i play basic stance because in live only draw stance builds existed and i played plenty of both fire and lightning

also pierce cheap af compared to the rest kek

[dire summit]

I play basic stance because the downtime is a lot more bearable plus I can block

[twin lark]

This is what i mean, they can only select either tab or falcon, so they will both be expensive when someone posts it on market. If most go for tab, then falcon will be expensive af, if most go for falcon then tab will be expensive af

I'll go for puncture anyway, but who knows when will i be able to get tab and z for less than 10k

They should have added blue book drop from current dungeons, so we could try transmuting more

[wooden rain]

yeah i thought the buffs would come with lab but they didn't

i don't get when KR got book drop rate buffs then

[green schooner]

or they get puncture and sell it a non bound one

instead of getting a book of a lower cost

[twin lark]

Tbh i'd be happy even if they add bound blue book chests aside from regular ones, i don't wanna sell them anyway, i just wanna compleyte my fcking build

[green schooner]

마지막 공격 명중 시 3초간 검룡 추가
Adds Sword Dragon for 3 seconds on last attack hit
damn, you're actually correct

[winged reef]

Yea it was discussed here back then when it happened

2 secs of bd for every hit was too OP apparently

[wooden rain]

OP when only one build even needs that

no wait 2 i guess

[slender kelp]

would be better if the bdr started on skill use instead of on the last hit

at least you boost the bdr damage itself

[winged reef]

Why would you not use it with bd though

[twin lark]

If purp tab gets 5% crit increase, blue one should get at least 2%, that's fair

[winged reef]

I use it when I have 2s left

And I get 3s again

[slender kelp]

im talking only for my case which is pierce build

you leave draw stance as soon as you enter pretty much so you never really have a good time to bdr while bd is still up

[wooden rain]

after vortex wave ig

[wooden rain]

looks like 7 days are basically enough to clear BP

[winged reef]

Are you counting on Beluga working

[wooden rain]

read it, beluga is not there

neither is bsh2 or lv55

since i'm counting this for my alt as well

[winged reef]

I hope it works

I want to get it asap

Might even spend some gems even tho I know it’s a poor choice

[wooden rain]

bruh a week is really fast, you can wait

[odd dagger]

patience is not one the qualifies of bns players

[wooden rain]

wdym we're all saints, dealing with ncsoft's bs for this long

except those delusional enough to think ncsoft is doing well

geez that caera stream is still going

unless it was down and now up again

[winged reef]

I will wait

I can almost buy another RMB

[twin lark]

Can i send the bound purp to my main?

[wooden rain]

what you think ncsoft would allow something like that to slide

they're not stupid when it comes to greed

[twin lark]

Shame

[slender kelp]

why this big dumb idiot sleeping like that

[twin lark]

Big chungus

[jaunty lark]

they still trying?

[odd dagger]

yes

[wooden rain]

It's been like 14 hours

I'd commit sudoku at that point

[twin lark]

Inb4 poop drop after 14 hours

[astral tendon]

lol

[spiral sky]

5% exp boost on badges

hyppeee

[grave hawk]

doesnt it stack

[spiral sky]

dunno

not gona rerol

[grave hawk]

people are getting exp badges

[spiral sky]

just got from +3 upgrade

[grave hawk]

30% extra exp might be worth it

[odd dagger]

ya , clearing bsh2 isnt hard even without the 140 crit dmg

ill prolly try to farm that 60% exp

[solar python]

have you killed it once?

[fickle loom]

nah

they got to last phase, aggro'd it accidentally and it resets to twins again

[wooden rain]

That's a d*ck move

But i still don't feel bad for them

[twin lark]

Exp badges?

[slender kelp]

this, i think

you can have it on accessories too pretty sure, not just badges

[twin lark]

Wtf but how?

[slender kelp]

rerolling the effects

[twin lark]

[slender kelp]

i opened one event box and got the true weapon and i still feel scammed

where's the cool effects

[twin lark]

Talk to an NPC

[wooden rain]

Every time i see that I'm just reminded of John Romero

[twin lark]

lmao

[wooden rain]

But it's so obscure probably nobody knows why

[twin lark]

I know who he is but idk why you say that

[slender kelp]

creator of doom john romero, right?

[wooden rain]

It's named icon_pain, i read it as icon of pain

Then it associates with icon of sin

And john romero is icon of sin in doom

[slender kelp]

ah yes his severed head on a pike

fearsome boss fight

[wooden rain]

Yeah

[twin lark]

Oh i thought you meant the baseball player lmfao

[wooden rain]

Such a weird association

[twin lark]

Idk what the first thing that came up to my mind

[wooden rain]

And i can hear his stupid reversed voiceline

I think I've played doom too much

[twin lark]

I only played the first Doom

And gotta say, was the best thing ever when it came out

[wooden rain]

It's still fun today

Brutal doom is also fun if it doesn't put you off, it's really over the top

[slender kelp]

i played doom 2016 and eternal but my pc probably cant even launch the new one so yeah

[wooden rain]

Same

Beat every master level too on nightmare

[twin lark]

Can't believe i was 29 when it dropped

Seems like yesterday

[wooden rain]

You're ancient

[twin lark]

61 isn't ancient

But yeah, i'm old

[wooden rain]

For a bns player

61 years and didn't learn any better than to play this sh*t

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanye-ye-shrug-meme-gif-5673972712848832740

Tbf, i played DN SEA for 7 years

[bronze bolt]

damn purp tab didn't get added?

oh wait

no it did

[wooden rain]

Yesn't

[bronze bolt]

yast isn't properly updated?

[wooden rain]

It doesn't work

[bronze bolt]

HUH?

it's bugged and it doesn't give the 5% crit?

[wooden rain]

Ncwest competency

No it just straight up doesn't work

You can't use it

[bronze bolt]

o

[wooden rain]

Read bug reports

[bronze bolt]

im sorry, where is that?

oh

[wooden rain]

Not exactly hard to find

[winged reef]

Isn’t the final phase the real dps challenge

[spiral sky]

yep

[spiral sky]

@twin lark wake up grandpa

time for bsh2

[twin lark]

I just ate, need like 2 hours to rest

Sht be like that when you old

[rain nimbus]

🤡

[wind timber]

@fluid barn also better ask here next time

Since no delay

[fluid barn]

Ah nice thank you, I didnt know this channel existed xD

[wind timber]

Ye, it's main in terms of builds and all

[wind timber]

So look, you're using pierce already, you can just throw in purple punct and it'll work just like that, you don't need any black dragon effect and all, and it has basically the same lmb tab rmb rota
The only mandatory purple book for puncture is puncture itself, it would kinda work with full blues, just that most purples would give you more crit chance and more chi regen uptime

I swapped like a week ago and rn i'm using full blues, it works okay

I kinda struggle on hae 2nd phase, cuz blue fissure is not enough, but other than that everything can be covered by 1lmb cyclone

[rotund compass]

can put shoulder charge resist to proc cyclone if desperate

[wind timber]

Ye, i forgot to tell about this, using this as well

[fluid barn]

ye same, pierce is very focus hungry xD

[wind timber]

Puncture has literally same focus requirements

[fluid barn]

that sounds promising, I would also change the block cyclone to the focus regen one

[woeful venture]

puncture is in fact even more focus hungry if u dont have purple

[wind timber]

I mean that's why i'm talking about mandatory purple here, yup

[wind timber]

Ye, it has 5s uptime with 6s cd

If boss has plenty of yellows you don't need anything else

[woeful venture]

yo

anyone knows if BBR drop rates got nerf with latest patch?

[fluid barn]

The only other downside is, taht I am stuck on only one kd on x xD

[brave pendant]

BBR got nerfed?

[fluid barn]

I felt it was already nerfed 3 weeks ago

[fluid barn]

But there is still no mystic badge for puncture builds right?

[wind timber]

Most of the puncture users have no cc at all xd

I'm using green scale ripper for full solo daze

[fluid barn]

I still have the fivepoint strike iframe xD
I was so used to that since live xD

[lethal prairie]

LMAO sometimes maybe a little bit lucky, first run

[wind timber]

The f

[fluid barn]

Oha, just checked the Cyclone lmb price, I guess I wont see purple cyclone until another selector chest xD

[wind timber]

Gz Saya, insane stuff

[wind timber]

It should be around 4-5k ig

[fluid barn]

12k atm

[lethal prairie]

ty insane rng

[wind timber]

It's just some scammer i think

4-5k is okay

[lethal prairie]

used up all my rng ig xD 4 failed taps

[fluid barn]

Alright I will keep an eye out, maybe I get lucky.
I already felt lucky with getting purple DT, but now my luck is empty xD

[fluid barn]

I feel that, I have been there too xD

[fickle loom]

w

[north mauve]

what % did you get it down to?

[fluid barn]

Unfortunately we can not switch around and try out builds.
Would have liked to at least try hybrid DT build, because I already got 2 of the purple main skills xD
But Puncture makes more sense, because I already have blue pierce build and just need to swap pierce and puncture.
If the damage difference wouldnt be that big, the desision would be way easier xD

[vivid cove]

should i still get puncture from bp or purple lunar since i already have a purple puncture

[stark saffron]

how mutch do purple dragontongue cost theese days? there is none in market

[fluid barn]

The last I have seen was at 42k, but I am not sure if that is the regular price

[hard iris]

on EU around 30k

[astral tendon]

we killed split once then wiped at 99%

[hard iris]

what a waste of time

KEKW~1

[stark saffron]

hi,are you done with your dt books?

[astral tendon]

i mean y

basically

[north mauve]

ohh..

[fluid barn]

Does someone has dmg meter of puncture vs hybrid DT with the same gear?

[astral tendon]

not directly

but 60 gm puncture is about the same as 60 gm dt

if you have legendary dt

on dummy that does not regen focus

[twin lark]

Did you guys clear it?

[woeful venture]

a fellow buggy enjoyer i see

imo purple lunar would be better if u have puncture already, the extra crit chance gives more consistency, and the overall upgrade in tier gives more damage than the 6 gm

thats my conclusion atleast

[twin lark]

I'm tempted to go for tab

I can just buy punct later on

I'm sure tab will go for 100k and there's no way i'm paying that much

[woeful venture]

i think puncture is still more expensive

since purple puncture pretty much enables the build

[twin lark]

That's cause there's no purp tab on market yet, give it time

[woeful venture]

hm yeah i guess since purple tab works for pierce and puncture

still i kinda find it hard for purple tab to be more expensive than puncture

but who knows, not me

[twin lark]

I'm amazed no one has gotten it yet from transmuting

Peak gaming

[spiral sky]

you go tab

im going punc

whos gonna have big weiner number

[twin lark]

Well, you ofc, you're more geared than me

[spiral sky]

what

u have full bsh SS

stongie boi

[twin lark]

me

you

2.8 CD

vs 2.3

[woeful venture]

bro i think im going insane, having to handle black dragon and doing the anicancel

its too much

i might end up comitting a hate crime

and i love running out of focus

[twin lark]

I can't wait to get puncture

fck bd

[woeful venture]

yeah its actual CBT

[teal surge]

How necessary/good is purp bladecall in hybrid?

Especially if you have purp meteor strike

[young cedar]

how muchh dps i need on bsh1 to go bsh2?

[teal surge]

think its around 18k

[twin lark]

Yeah

[young cedar]

kk thank u

[twin lark]

This isn't so bad

Still won't pay but i thought i'd be like 15

[young cedar]

u think is worth to use the purple book to go for puncture and change my build? im currently hybrid with only blue books

[twin lark]

Puncture is better at tanking

Hybrid is just pain

What's your ping?

[young cedar]

70 - 80ms

[storm apex]

Anyone knows if there's a difference between purple breeze and cyclone (lmb) animations? can't get my macro to work

[twin lark]

I have 70ms i can play puncture just fine

On the other hand, i can't play hybrid

70ms is too high

[twin lark]

None

[storm apex]

What prog you have for macro?

[young cedar]

what u mean by cant play? u dont refresh ur suntroke easily or what?

[twin lark]

AHK, my macro will work just fine for you

[twin lark]

Not enough DTs

Is just sht

[twin lark]

Got all special blue rank

Now comes the tricky part

All purp

[woeful venture]

wtf

bro

[odd dagger]

what am i supposed to do with purple fusion insignia

leggendary insignia when

[woeful venture]

u have 899 with ur dogshit unupgraded accs

no offense

well u do have awakened earring

[woeful venture]

39 on special jesus

[twin lark]

Yessir

The only thing that actuallycan hold its value are insignias, everything else will change eventually with new gear

Invest on insignias

money well spent

[woeful venture]

i have slightly worse insignias

still happy about the special purple one

[woeful venture]

and yeah i always gamble, been gambling my insignias since i started mushin

with 3 characters

[twin lark]

I need one more red AP CD to get another purple one

[odd dagger]

shoulad prolly invested in red fuses instead of 150g on trying to make true earring

[woeful venture]

LOL

ofc bro

[twin lark]

I bought that earring

pretty cheap

100gems

[odd dagger]

upgrading leggy gear feels like the biggest waste of gold

[woeful venture]

insignias are the most consistent way of upgrade, yeah its expensive but its guaranteed

[twin lark]

I would never upgrade anything, that's for whales

except weapon

[odd dagger]

yes

i bought most of my true purples

[woeful venture]

i mean its not, but its of the last things u wanna do

but yeah, insignias FTW

gamble every single one, and fuse red/special ones

[twin lark]

Psyches are expensive rn

Can't use that number 8 yet

Need to fuse more

[woeful venture]

wtf

ah i thought u cand every SS piece with CD/CR psyche

had*

yeah that lack of CD is painful

[twin lark]

My CD so low

2.3 ain't sht

[odd dagger]

why so low

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanye-ye-shrug-meme-gif-5673972712848832740

Pretty much every piece of gear that i have has CD

Idk how ppl get to 4k

[woeful venture]

ur pierce badge doent have max CD

max CD is like 130 something at +1

[twin lark]

Iain't upgrading that cause punct

[woeful venture]

yeah i was expecting that answer

and the other reason is neck and belt, both are the accs that give the most stats

honestly idk either why u have so little

math is hard i guess

[twin lark]

Already doing that on punct

[woeful venture]

u mostly want to waste the gold u use on upgrading

on getting max CD

[odd dagger]

Cd on psyche?

Botm acc and ss 1-4

[woeful venture]

true he is missing CD on piece 1 and 4 of SS

CD psyche ofc

[twin lark]

Not that it would make much of a diff anyway, but yeah

[woeful venture]

thats 200 extra cd

400 if u are lucky

[twin lark]

Psyches expensive rn

Can't craft cause low on mats

[woeful venture]

what do u meant not much of a diff, its insane diff

[twin lark]

This game cucks you everywhere

[woeful venture]

time to farm blazing demon

for big mats

[twin lark]

To get 400 cd would need multiple tries

[woeful venture]

and get !cock blocked by homra

[woeful venture]

i mean thats the ideal case, 240 is still a lot

[twin lark]

I do that everyday, but still cucked by npc

5 boxes

This game hates farmers

[woeful venture]

blazing demon drops the box that its guaranteed like 20 mats of each

but homra gate keeps it

[twin lark]

You mean the boss with 39 mil?

[woeful venture]

yes

[twin lark]

Just killed it and dropped nothing

Me and 5 others

[woeful venture]

hmm maybe its luck if u get the box

but ik u can get the box

there is in fact 2 boxes, but the other one idk how it works, if its last hit or most damage

[twin lark]

Also can't farm gold

It's a nightmare here

[woeful venture]

yeah crafting with mats of 1 character is painful

i have 3 characters so i can craft with all of them

and i get the 5 boxes every day with each

[twin lark]

I don't hate myself

1 char is more than enough time spent on this game

[woeful venture]

i dont do everything with my other characs tho, i do make sure to make mushins every day

and buy boxes

i already invested time and gems so now i enjoy

but u can do that

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[woeful venture]

buying boxes with other characters

tho u would have to level crafting

[twin lark]

I would, when they gift lv50 voucher

I'm not gonna lv up 2 more chars

Unless they give us xp event

[woeful venture]

i dont think u have to level them up for crafting, atleast not to lv36

[twin lark]

And how do you complete mushin then?

[woeful venture]

but yeah i recommend honestly, its a good gem source and crafting overall

ah but i mean if u dont want to level them all the way up

like use them exclusively for crafting

if u dont wanna invest that much time

[twin lark]

Got it

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

That's it for today

[woeful venture]

lol

for a moment i thought it said 328 wooden chips

i was like wtf

[twin lark]

At one point i had almost 500

Guess where they went?

Rerolled most of my SS to get CD CR

No wait

I think it was to reroll something else

[odd dagger]

why are u crafting the psyche for 5-8 when u have empty slot for 1-4

[woeful venture]

so u had a piece with neither CD

[twin lark]

Can't remember

[woeful venture]

neither crits*

and rerolled to get both crits?

[twin lark]

Yeah

I only had 3 with double crits

[odd dagger]

u do know psyche 1-4 has 121-201 crit dmg

while 5-6 is like 30ish max

[twin lark]

I'll craft that tomorrow

[twin lark]

Yeah

Idk why they made it that way

[odd dagger]

cause 5-8 gives more hp

[woeful venture]

yeah, 5-8 its like a more tankish option

higher hp, defense and hp regen

[twin lark]

Ohh

Is the same for bottom accs then

Their psyche gives almost nothing

[woeful venture]

kinda? kinda not?

bottom accs psyches give a lot of crit damage

and good crit rate

[twin lark]

Upper ones then

[woeful venture]

upper psyches gives tons of crit rate / accuracy and very little CD

[twin lark]

Hmm i must check that later on then

[odd dagger]

upper its crit/acc or crit/pierce

botm is always crit dmg / acc , crit dmg/ crit

[urban bridge]

3 tier of boxes total, each box depends on how much points you managed to get from the boss = how much dmg you dealt to the boss the minimum points you need to get the lowest box is around 100 points

[twin lark]

I got 106 points and didn't get anything

Maybe it's changed now

Also almost got killed by a kfm with the kick to the ground, i don't know any skill names from other classes

But that sht hits hard

[wooden rain]

You mean the stomp that creates an aoe, probably their V that's usually a stun