Blade Master

[zinc pewter]

Purple lightning draw and flash step for burst

[versed cedar]

using your tab is how they will daze/stun you next to chain cc you, they have flicker, hone, c, 2, vc, q3 etc etc

[teal surge]

tbh i think even if we fight in bg like in a normal setting i cant win

165k hp

• bursty pvp skills and all i have is stacked green dts 😦

[versed cedar]

yah you're not going to win if you stack green dt and he has all the pvp skills

[twin lark]

First time i get a blue one and it's useless

My luck...

[unreal oriole]

anyone got a video on pierce gameplay with macro?

[twin lark]

https://youtu.be/G8Scu21tCKc

[unreal oriole]

tyty

[urban bridge]

thats puncture, but it plays the same way

[twin lark]

That's why i posted it

[unreal oriole]

i actually found a nice macro through that video lmao

i changed the .14 to .20 and it works great for 20ish ms

no idea why it works thoi

[twin lark]

Gotta love google translate

[twin lark]

This doesn't work

Just tried it

Maybe just works on a razer mouse

[brave pendant]

For 20ms you should be able to do the rotation faster than that. How many rotations can you get off in a minute?

[twin lark]

Well 20ms, i didn't read that part lmao

Wait, it's true it works for me too

wtf

[brave pendant]

if all 3 are at 0.2s then that's something I'm doing with 85 ping, and I know how slow the rotation is at ~85/min

[spiral sky]

im expecting 105-110 ratio

on u vick

[brave pendant]

20ms should be 115+/min

[twin lark]

And my CR sucks

[spiral sky]

how u skippings tabs

[twin lark]

Cause low CR

also i don't have purp cyclone

[spiral sky]

tab isnt cr variable

[twin lark]

It skips it if no crit

It just does this weid kinda hit but not really

doesn't hit at all

it goes back to cyclone

[brave pendant]

yeah if no crit it causes the macro to desync which does lead to some single cyclones and cyclone + tab but no pierce even with crits

[spiral sky]

ur pierce is to low ms so

[brave pendant]

it's because the macro is bad

[twin lark]

Skyze's macro works better for me, but this one isn't that bad

[brave pendant]

don't do 200-200-200ms unless your ping makes anything lower unplayable

[twin lark]

What should i do for 70ms?

400?

[spiral sky]

i tould you

first

try a macro

for lmb and tab

only

on 100-200ms range

[brave pendant]

I have 190-165-190 which works slightly faster, but in the end it depends on trial and error for your own setup

[spiral sky]

that can do it the same as 1 ms spam one

same ratio i mean

[twin lark]

ok

[brave pendant]

if i lag spike, all the macros I have are all dead

[spiral sky]

after u find that

you try to put pierce in

[twin lark]

k

[spiral sky]

i have nothing to do

i will try something

on macros

if i find something nice

i will tell

[spiral sky]

yeah thas good ratio

sweet spot

no try incert pierce there

[twin lark]

Sleep 70
Send("{r}")
Send("{tab}")
Sleep 10

[spiral sky]

and tweak

[twin lark]

For some reason this works

[spiral sky]

that wont work if u put rmb there

[twin lark]

Yeah

I'm too old to try figure it out. I'll leave it to you youngsters

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[unreal oriole]

do i test on focus dummy?

[brave pendant]

yeah focus dummy

R TAB T should be getting you at least 110+ R TAB hits over a min

[unreal oriole]

1min exactly

im only at 2700 cr and blue cyclone

[spiral sky]

thats good

real good

[brave pendant]

rock solid

[spiral sky]

what im coocking right now

[brave pendant]

Once you get purp cyclone and more ap, you'll be one of the best. I believe in you

[unreal oriole]

[spiral sky]

ur ratio is on point

[odd dagger]

Bro doing some macro woodoo magic

Getting ratios from air

[brave pendant]

On avg I can only get in ~85 cyclone / lunars. I'm doing far less hits per min than I should due to my ping. You aren't restricted by such limitations

[spiral sky]

now its only itens that make u do more dmg

[narrow quest]

he literally lives in the server

all my homies hate kee

[odd dagger]

He is 130 ms

Oh kee

[odd dagger]

He's normal ratios

[twin lark]

Sharing is caring

[narrow quest]

share a purple DT

[twin lark]

[spiral sky]

yeah thats the max i can do it

[twin lark]

Damn

Gib

[spiral sky]

the cyclone off count its because pierce parkson animation

[unreal oriole]

do you guys bother with black dragon or nah

[spiral sky]

if u play pierce

u should

[brave pendant]

have to for dmg. otherwise it's awful

[spiral sky]

thats a lot boost dmg

in you case

i would

with that crisp ping

[unreal oriole]

what skills do you use?

[spiral sky]

vortex, bd honed slash

flock/bladecall than X

[brave pendant]

honed slash on CD, blade call / blade storm on CD. vortex wave as much as you can without overlapping a buff

[unreal oriole]

oh its only those 3?

i sohuld be able to manage that

[narrow quest]

what about stone slash

[spiral sky]

thats the main ones

[brave pendant]

stone slash on CD too

[twin lark]

You got blade call?

[spiral sky]

nah

using default flock

[twin lark]

Same

[spiral sky]

dunno if it works for you

[spiral sky]

weird sh!!t

[twin lark]

Not as good, maybe if i lower it

Or could be low CR

[spiral sky]

forget about cr

u focus on ratios

get more lunar slash and cyclones

pierce will naturally get btter counts

[twin lark]

ok, i'll try

[spiral sky]

im really thinking that theres no difference in 70 to 130 ms

on basic stance

[brave pendant]

I'm not sure how to use AHK but I can try with my ping that varies between 70-110

[odd dagger]

U would need a stable ping for macros though

[spiral sky]

just need fissure/vortex and pierce purple

[brave pendant]

How do you use the AHK script thing?

[spiral sky]

download ahk

install

and just use the scrip as adm

if u want to edit ( hotkeys for exemple ) just open as txt

and change it

scrip it will stay hidden on tray

can right click and exit,etc

[twin lark]

Just checked on you have almost 3.6 CR ofc that would make a difference in pierce counts you even have purp cyclone

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-got-to-be-kidding-youre-kidding-me-seriously-gif-6521278384595665157

[spiral sky]

i tould you

to only pay attention on ration

tab

and lmb

u have the same ratio as mine

thats the problem

[brave pendant]

That was a very good script I gotta say. It felt very smooth and faster than my normal macro

[twin lark]

So i just need to increase CR and get purp cyclone

Got it

[spiral sky]

to get more pierces

yeap

[brave pendant]

my ping was swaying between 80-100 during that minute

didn't desync much

[twin lark]

it is a really good macro, idk how you came up with repeating up and down so many times for each key but it works

[unreal oriole]

IS THIS BADGE REALLY ONLY 5 SECONDS?

caps

might aswell get the moonwater one

[brave pendant]

if you use purp blade call, don't even need a mystic

[unreal oriole]

does black dragon time stack?

[twin lark]

This is the best i can do, next up is getting prup cyclone and more cr

[spiral sky]

no

[spiral sky]

yes

[twin lark]

Gotta make them count

cause as soons as you press V it's ticking

[spiral sky]

the only problem on that macro

is when u block

after tab

macro force pierce to come out

F****ng ur block up

[twin lark]

Also, after pressing V you have to 4xcv then rotation

[twin lark]

That doesn't happen to me

[spiral sky]

try blocking after tab

before pierce

[twin lark]

Yeah, it blocks normally, i would have noticed after many runs

[spiral sky]

i did throw a 1 spam there

but didnt work for me

dam, why i skipped faction and blue train dailies

lvl is capping me on dgs

[urban bridge]

why are there so many bm whales mannn

41k and I can't even break into top 10 anymore

[spiral sky]

crys on 40

[gleaming pewter]

i have 1 purple puncture and no lege card sets 😢

[twin lark]

Is your ping -10?

So far and yet so close

[urban bridge]

do you have good ping...

[twin lark]

How do you link skills?

[spiral sky]

ctrl click

[gleaming pewter]

60 with exitlag

[twin lark]

Doesn't do anything

[odd dagger]

No but you could use searing purple to extend it.
V q x then 4 when bdr is about to expire.

[twin lark]

Why would you q?

[odd dagger]

Click on a listed item

Or link from transmute box

[odd dagger]

For blade storm

[twin lark]

TY

you don't have to q for that, just press 4 you'll get into draw stance

4xcv

[odd dagger]

If u read the full sentence

[twin lark]

oh it's cause you have purple searing, got it

i don't

[odd dagger]

Ya more bdr uptime with it

[twin lark]

So i don't care about using 4 first

yeah

more is better

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[brave pendant]

better is opening with blade call but using honed slash before blade storm

that allows you to fit in 2 more honed slashes before the next blade call more easily

[twin lark]

honed for what?

[spiral sky]

wheres the whales to carry me on bsh1

need my ss

[odd dagger]

Black dragon 4s

[brave pendant]

honed slash black dragon

[twin lark]

Hmmm didn't know honed had buff too

[brave pendant]

make sure you guys throw out 2 lightning rods during each flock too. it's pretty efficient for skill points

[twin lark]

I do that

So, every honed resets it?

[brave pendant]

honed gives you 4 seconds of black dragon

so you open blade call for 3 seconds, honed fissure for 4 sec, Q blade storm for 6

[urban bridge]

ahh okay so just better ping + better build

[twin lark]

Would be nice if all those seconds were free pierce up time

[brave pendant]

stone slash on CD, or searing extend if you have that. but that rotation lets you fit in 2 more honed fissures

[twin lark]

I get why ppl rather play puncture instead

no need for extra steps

same dmg

[odd dagger]

More dmg

[twin lark]

well, yeah

[spiral sky]

but still

stack purple pierce

and play as punc

F bd time

[gleaming pewter]

pretty sure the whales in top 10 have like sub 30 ping

[spiral sky]

cheaper way

[brave pendant]

just like how DT can do 14+1 on low ping, puncture also gets in more hits in with low ping. the BM world is unfair

[urban bridge]

Sulli has 70 I know because he lives 30 min from me, pretty sure imiraclejinmao has worse ping than him, anthem has even worse ping

[gleaming pewter]

i was told all those people have 30 or less but idk

[urban bridge]

nah I can confirm sulli has 70 ping with exitlag lol

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447

[brave pendant]

imagine if they had 20 ping. they'd have 15-30% more dmg

[urban bridge]

yeah easily

[odd dagger]

Is sulli fire

[sharp current]

lvl 55 stats

[spiral sky]

yeah

and me here

still 52

[twin lark]

Don't you play daily?

[spiral sky]

yeah

but i wanst doing blue trains or factions

too boring

[twin lark]

Yeah, that's it

It's boring but helpful

[odd dagger]

14 ap pog

Ya I don't do those

I will take my time hitting 55

Alr can do bsh2 anyway

[main inlet]

try to add a break line in a middle of macro

[spiral sky]

if i do that i will stuck on pierce non crit animations or will skip rotation cause ping

[main inlet]

like this

[spiral sky]

ohh

[main inlet]

put a break after every sleep

[spiral sky]

lets try out

[twin lark]

What's that for?

[main inlet]

stops the macro midway if you released the key press

[spiral sky]

or just tw xml and remove unboosted rmb

[twin lark]

So it would make it reset rotation? as if i release the key right after cyclone and press it again, it would start with cyclone again?

thats' also good

But there's no way to make it do what i said?

nice will try

[spiral sky]

let me try on dummy, i think it worket

ty fo the tip

nice

works like a charm

sure bud

@brave pendant

dam feels soo smooth now

[twin lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK7gaqJOLmM

[spiral sky]

almost soloed bay lee

=/

23,4k dps

missing 100k hp

need puppa pierce now

[twin lark]

Save for puncture

[brave pendant]

I got about the same hits/min as before. Got unluckier though and got a string of failed crit LMB TABs that resulted in way less pierces. 75-76% crit chance is good but still too much variance. Ended with 40.4k dps compared to the previous 42.9k dps

[spiral sky]

hell no

to much expensive

i can stack 6 pierces

and play like punc

ignoring bd

for the price off one punc

[twin lark]

We can? interesting

Who did the math?

[spiral sky]

off course u can

[twin lark]

what if puncture gets cheaper?

you'd be too invested

[spiral sky]

6 stacks is 60% dmg

[twin lark]

6 stacks of blue?

[spiral sky]

purple

blue is 22%

[twin lark]

damn yeah ill go for pierce then

inb4 everybody copies your idea

[spiral sky]

im only will go punc if selectable purple book is already close

otherwise is cheaper to stack pierce

and just play as punc

if u want to min max

you do BD managment

[twin lark]

how good is that 60% using bdr compared to 6 punctures

i mean i know puncture will come on top

but by how much?

30%?

nvm even stacking 5 blue punc i doubt it would come on top

cause stacking 6 purp is insane

[brave pendant]

Actually you also have to consider the 37.5% bonus from 10/10 skill points. Playing optimally with BDr with like ~25% uptime, 6 purp pierces = 1 punc + 7-8blues

30 GM pierce is like 88% more dmg, something around 18 punc is 70% more dmg. Can't just play pierce without bdr

[twin lark]

What if i don't wanna bdr?

[brave pendant]

play punc

[twin lark]

Cause it is kinda annoying but i'm used to it

By the time i get enough gems for puncture, game will be empty

[brave pendant]

playing pierce with BDr isn't all that bad. It can get confusing trying to weave in blocks through when you also might have to enter draw stance and cancel with block putting both 1 / QE on CD some times

[grizzled gale]

I'd just play blue puncture if you're not planning to use bdr, get purple cyclone block and fissure thats prob more dmg and cheaper than stacking purple pierce with no bdr

[brave pendant]

blue punc cost 3 focus. that's quite unsustainable even with block cyclone I'd imagine

[grizzled gale]

I've seen one do 19k on cs so I'd say its not bad

[spiral sky]

w8ing forr purple falcon

[north burrow]

Blue puncture is bad

[spiral sky]

yo vick how was ur acc on that fight

[north burrow]

Blue pierce does more even if you ignore black dragon bc of the focus dif lol

[grizzled gale]

I'm not saying its good, I know how bad it can be I tried it myself although I didn't have full foc rec stuff

[twin lark]

you got 100% on all

i really need that purp cyclone

[north burrow]

I mean you were just straight up wrong with what you said here so idk

[grizzled gale]

I was mentioning how its capable of pumping damage over blue pierce with no bdr uptime, I'm not entirely wrong

[brave pendant]

Lightning rods look better. Only 2 honed slash in a fight though?

[north burrow]

But blue pierce will beat blue puncture with minimal bdr uptime

[brave pendant]

I still don't see fissure

[twin lark]

I don'thave honed

[north burrow]

2 puncture uses isn't more damage than 3 pierces

[brave pendant]

ah. honed black dragon and fissure are great additions next then.

[twin lark]

Don't have fissure either

[brave pendant]

can line up honed with fissure or with searing/stone slash if lazy

[twin lark]

I really like having 2 kds

[brave pendant]

fissure is a must. honed is good for adding more dps

[grizzled gale]

Doesn't it become more efficient when you're stacking? Cuz if no bdr uptime on pierce you're less efficient on book stack damage too

[north burrow]

You're still getting a lot more uses on a build that already struggles with focus in the optimal setup

Especially when you consider a non-instant cast still uses the focus lol

[grizzled gale]

Welp I haven't done the math, my only assumption was that I was only dealing 3k dmg more on blue pierce over someone stacking blue punc (and I overgeared him by quite a bit)

[spiral sky]

low level is capping me

[twin lark]

Yeah there a gaps that fissure can fill, will have to get it sadly

[spiral sky]

missing to much

[subtle spindle]

What cr stat number gives you around 60-65% CR?

[twin lark]

i think 4k

there's a sheet

[subtle spindle]

Sheeshhh

[spiral sky]

that sheet was for cap 50

[twin lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822688532597702668/1352692322105819146/image-9.png?ex=681ce6e5&is=681b9565&hm=ae21372c7f6fc0b4917d95cfe052aa63c1697f9151a38c81311bfe33e5dce394&

ohh

[spiral sky]

search for haru

he linked a calculator

for this kind stuffs

[subtle spindle]

In this chat, @spiral sky?

[spiral sky]

should be

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m5s-NHHOdbcupa0XEmU49IeCGDKVQpEIJRzSNBKsOfg/edit?gid=1163242603#gid=1163242603

here

[subtle spindle]

Appreciate you thanks

[twin lark]

1 Puncture cost achivement

this one

[spiral sky]

gift me ur vortex

[twin lark]

My vortex is bound got it from lv50

[bronze bolt]

what fight?

[twin lark]

mane

blood

[spiral sky]

got 100 acc more than you

but miss more =/

but the macro is real stable

[twin lark]

Macro is on point

[bronze bolt]

macro being stable is important

but you want it to come out fast too

i think

[twin lark]

it comes out as fast as i could for my ping

any lower and it starts interrupting

[bronze bolt]

yea, there is only so much anyone can do

yup

[little moat]

Lol u guys still miss on bloodmane?

[teal surge]

as a hybrid dt es bm are there any good purple skills to get before DT SS ES or should i just save for those 3 ? and if so whats the priority

[spiral sky]

im 52 bdx

[twin lark]

I have detect lv7

[spiral sky]

no space

for detect

=/

[little moat]

SS > ES/DT (Es is cheaper)

[twin lark]

GG

[spiral sky]

ap/rush/drain

[little moat]

U need the big guns skyze

smh

[odd dagger]

No need detect if u don't miss ez

[teal surge]

so any other book is worthless before getting these 3 ?

[little moat]

Pmuch the only books u need in your gear

xept block ig but getting that purple is muh

[teal surge]

well got block purple from pass

ive been getting only blocks from free stuff

[urban bridge]

You only need those 3

or want those 3 at purple technically

the other stuff is very minimal

[little moat]

Purple BC is kinda nice so u can spend ur pnts

[twin lark]

Drain seems to be good only if you don't miss too much, i'd change to detect

[little moat]

And purple searing / meteor for the future but by no means its prio

But ss > es/dt is prio either way

[urban bridge]

Drain can never miss

because it only procs on crits

and crits never misses

[twin lark]

Then nvm what i said

This game is lacking so much info

[spiral sky]

yeah

i guess i will switch

[urban bridge]

detect is much better though if your hit rate is below 95%? I think

or was it 90%

[spiral sky]

my drain sux too

[twin lark]

i have less accu than skyze though are u sure drain doesn't fail?

[urban bridge]

yeah

[spiral sky]

97%

in general

[little moat]

I wouldnt remove my detect set even if i stopped missing

free 200 cd

[spiral sky]

i need pooh card

[little moat]

Also, im searching for a blue mujin soul

[urban bridge]

ahh well if you use a multi cost detect set that provides the cd then yeah

[little moat]

Missed infernal twice yday

[twin lark]

This is what i'm using rn

[little moat]

Need a yunma to replace checkmate

Or a chef to get 32AP :d

[spiral sky]

32 ap sux

[twin lark]

I think i need one more card for onrush lv8

[spiral sky]

u got because i was using the 17 one

[little moat]

Its a nice set, lots of piercing

[twin lark]

or 7 idk

[grizzled gale]

dont you have the blue detect set with cdmg? kinda easy to get

[little moat]

96% accuracy at Mujin with lvl 53+1.3k Acc btw

[grizzled gale]

more than double my acc xd

[little moat]

Should hit 54 today or tmr

[teal surge]

how much do u think u'll hit him at 54 ?

[little moat]

I'd expect atleast more and more hard

[teal surge]

whats ur stats btw n how much dps u hit him

[little moat]

Don't matter, I got a huge skill issu on that boss

I'm airplane mode

[teal surge]

i mean i wanted to know how much i need to be able to do minimum dmg

[little moat]

17k is the highest i've gotten, the next run I had 10k

I'd say do 18k on bloodmane and u'll carry your weight

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[little moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-meme-lobo-de-wall-street-gif-9165609578969835344

[twin lark]

It's a shame he was just in that part of the movie

[little moat]

@gilded thistle

Get dem pots

[grizzled gale]

bro what you get TWO?

[brave pendant]

do you skip lightning rods in flock of blades?

[gilded thistle]

I got em

[spiral sky]

yeah, im always focused on 10 cyclones stacks

just get bd buff and get out for focus regen

rofl

[twin lark]

my sustained dmg in cs is good now

it was 12k before

[spiral sky]

now sell ur tabs

and get pierces

[twin lark]

not according to @odd dagger

Can't remember what he said

But he told me not to

[spiral sky]

because he play tab+lmb

and when he gets his punc

will play 2 macros

tab+lmb

and tab+rmb

[twin lark]

I got baited lmao

[spiral sky]

he will not play 3 inputs

he will spam tab+rmb after cyclones

[twin lark]

but what about when purp tab comes?

[spiral sky]

that's his play

[twin lark]

combo

[spiral sky]

stil u want to stack rmb

more ap ratio

[twin lark]

that's what i was doing and it wasn't that enjoyable

[spiral sky]

• badges

[odd dagger]

When I told to stack tab over pierce

[spiral sky]

its mid, u get good anicancels but will lose crit ratio because it will be missing lmb cyclone buff

[twin lark]

Then it was @tough robin

[urban bridge]

54 changes alot, I was 53 with 1.55k and still only around 99%, hit 54 dropped acc to 1.45k and its still 100%

[spiral sky]

maoamo inst playing anymore my guess

or he changed class

[twin lark]

good thing is blue pierce is cheap af compared to combo

[spiral sky]

Dark should install sell all his tabs

and buy me a purple pierce 😄

[odd dagger]

3 macro lb tab without cyclone, lb tab rb once after cyclone then spam rb tab with 3 sec of crit buff + cyclone focus

So all punctures are crit boosted

Then u restock till cyclone again

[spiral sky]

you wont need lb tab one

purple falcon is coming

focus wont be a issue anymore

[brave pendant]

I think it's pretty good value for the cost. 9 sec CD. can be thrown out twice per flock. 100% accuracy. it's always the ~5th highest damaging ability just after stone slash which you should have excess skill points for

[odd dagger]

Why 100% acc

[spiral sky]

shouldn't be 100%

its a cc

[brave pendant]

lightning rod never misses

according to the meter anyways

[little moat]

BC 10pnts, Rod 5pnts yet rod is still higher

[spiral sky]

dammm

is late

going to bed

[twin lark]

True

i've never dealt this much dmg in chef it was like that till she hides

can't believe just switching to purp cyclone changes everything

[grizzled gale]

yeah cyclone is goated

[twin lark]

indeed

[grizzled gale]

is purple searing with blade strike higher ceiling for pierce or is that just handicapped gameplay?

[odd dagger]

Kek blade strike

Sure I guess

[wooden rain]

That's just the 24 second burst bruh

[brave pendant]

handicapped honestly. I'm using warcry but even 2 sec on block feels pretty bad at times

you have to block cancel draw stance a lot or E out of it

[twin lark]

i know never dealt that much anyway

max was like 20

[grizzled gale]

I switched out of warcry to parry cuz I thought it was the issue for the delayed blocks xd but it was a good change nonetheless

[little moat]

Blade strike giga.

[grizzled gale]

blade strike cd resets on block or on parry?

[wooden rain]

Blade strike only parries

[grizzled gale]

oh

[wooden rain]

Don't listen to this guy, he only uses violent blade anyway

[little moat]

Purple resets on parry yes

On slow spins like Trasher and Kaarilord u can get -3s per spin attack

[wooden rain]

Blade strike is only usable for training dummy bosses

[slender kelp]

so all of them

[wooden rain]

Unfortunately

But only when you're already fully familiar with their patterns

[little moat]

Hey I had to bladestrike 6 times on Mujin yday

Thank god I stil got vortex lmao

[slender kelp]

i wish blade strike dmg showed up on meter

[subtle spindle]

Can you claim both on cinderlands 👀

[little moat]

If u have a moonwater char, yes.

[subtle spindle]

Ggs, might have to make a moonwater char

Every little helps

[wooden rain]

It doesn't do anything anyway, that damage is not a proper hit and it can't crit

[little moat]

Before and after.

[wooden rain]

If it was tripled maybe it'd add up to 1%

[slender kelp]

this isn't an insignificant amount

blocking 20+ times in one boss isn't that high

just as an example

[little moat]

Blue infernal did 160k dmg on 2 uses

To compare it.

[wooden rain]

For draw stance builds it's pretty high and 60k still is nothing

[little moat]

If u play basic stance it might do as much as a soulcore, wich is nice

But for drawstance ur block doesn't rlly matter cuz u use VB

[slender kelp]

that's what i was seeing too actually

[wooden rain]

But basic stance builds don't need 4 that much so it's just stupid

[little moat]

Bladestrike being a 1s block is more then sufficient cuz u never want to block longer anyway

[wooden rain]

See, now if violent blade was blade strike

[little moat]

Both builds use the same amount of 4 for the same purpose

Could argue basic stance uses it more cuz crit rate on stone

[wooden rain]

I mean technically it's a stance switch skill which you'd expect to be more important for draw stance builds

Guess i said it wrong

[little moat]

Basic stance u can use it and use Honed after

for draw stance how often are u out of drawstance and use ur 4 to enter it

I never did that since its a dps loss to use it outside of draw

[wooden rain]

Pretty much whenever i have to use 1 and 4 is available

[little moat]

well, U shouldn't use 4 or tab out of drawstance since drawstance has a build in critdmg modifier (iirc)

That's why on opener we Q before pressing Tab-4

[wooden rain]

Can we make an unofficial official discord without these filters

[little moat]

Then still, Basic stance builds have more use out of their 4 then draw stance builds do

(And they actually use their block)

so if taking parry/warcry over bladestrike doesn't matter, might aswell do a bit of dmg with bladestrike. 150-200k dmg over a fight is still nice to have extra.

[wooden rain]

I've seen this entire conversation before and I'm too tired to have it again

[little moat]

One would almost say, Just play (drawstance) and use w/e block you have

[wooden rain]

I'm beginning to feel sick every time i see people optimizing damage over everything else in existence

[little moat]

What else is there to do in this game

[sage tulip]

It all sounds great in theory untill you fight boss and start flying

[little moat]

Do u actually block more then 1s mina?

(And not use your vb)

[wooden rain]

Market simulator, virtual casino, wheel, community trashtalk although that's dying out

[sage tulip]

I only ever use normal block to use hmb and q right after

[wooden rain]

But yeah gameplay wise not much

[sage tulip]

Vortex blade I use if I'm low on focus ig or lazy

[little moat]

I noticed yday I had 10 skillpnts in Fissure

[wooden rain]

As i said yesterday I'm at the point where I'm just using and switching stuff for no good reason, it even started with hs a while ago

I would want to develop my kfm but i cba to farm up like 10k for minimal viable gear

So I'll do that either when steam comes or I yeet out of here entirely and find a private server, maybe like in autumn

Rn I don't spend my stamina on any characters anymore

[little moat]

Can't wait for the "fresh" server on steam to be actually connected to our marketplace

[sage tulip]

Private server with like 30 ppl doesn't sound better idk

Id never play that even if game is peak

[wooden rain]

Anything is better than neo, at least you can switch builds

All you need is 6 people and even that is a suggestion

[little moat]

Honestly if you think that, what u still doing here

I don't get it

[wooden rain]

I want to get a better internet connection before i switch cause kfm has that as a prerequisite

Which is why i said autumn

And rn I'm mostly burnt out on bns anyway

Besides you seem to assume that it'd be played as a job like neo is

Instead of a fully casual, few times a week game

[little moat]

You play the game cuz its fun

If it aint fun, do something else

[wooden rain]

I've said it many times before, I'm only here while my clan and friends are here

[gilded thistle]

Aren't we all?

[slender kelp]

not me, i don't have a clan or friends

👍

[gilded thistle]

a

[brave pendant]

I can't imagine playing this without friends/clan. There's no way to build groups for new content without them

[slender kelp]

i can do bsh1 fine and have no incentive to do bsh2

[gilded thistle]

Which server are you on Celt?

[slender kelp]

moonwater

[gilded thistle]

rip

[slender kelp]

well i did start with around 9 people

8 of them quit 1 week into moonwater patch

[gilded thistle]

I've been through that and it sucks.

[wooden rain]

There's no incentive to do any of them

The rewards that are worth something all have sub 0.1% of appearing everywhere

[subtle spindle]

@little moat Do you need a new plaync account to make a moonwater char?

Actually that wouldn't make sense in order to receive coupons in one place

[little moat]

U just... make a new char?

[subtle spindle]

Cool

[little moat]

If the homies weren't here i'd 100% quit before ever doing BSH1 let alone bsh2

[simple jacinth]

Same.....kinda wanna quit cuz the steam server Reroll is gonna be real

[slender kelp]

uh... it is?

[gilded thistle]

No rerolls. If pupa dies it's time to move on

[simple jacinth]

Jah ..Korea did the same thing with WL reroll not on steam but made fresh servers and gave them 3 Purple Selectors and new event Grind zone and a Goodie box payed ofc but with insane Cards and Insignias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK7gaqJOLmM

[little moat]

ohhhh new Nellan video

[gilded thistle]

Milku chodai

[simple jacinth]

Niauwwwwwww

[gilded thistle]

[simple jacinth]

These evening Gonna punish Daddy Mujijn tho...needs his ass Spanked a bit more

[little moat]

Lmao why do I got that emoji

[simple jacinth]

WTF is that emojij

My EYES

[little moat]

HAHAHAHA

[gilded thistle]

Time to explain yourself

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

Hahahaha WTF dude !!!!

[little moat]

Ask Dawn

wow boost servers are wildddd

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

[little moat]

Hey is that Bear?

[simple jacinth]

Enough Doomer mindset...need to Prime mah SS, prepare for tonight huehuehue

[little moat]

Yeeees no dooming only goodvibes

[gilded thistle]

You have to carry that lith guy again ?

[little moat]

https://tenor.com/view/good-juju-witch-good-vibes-sending-love-and-light-hive-gif-13019408144622380968

[simple jacinth]

we get New hair btw when WL release...

[gilded thistle]

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

Yeah that Lith guy

[little moat]

Fak that Lith guy

[simple jacinth]

dead weight

[little moat]

Such a newb

[simple jacinth]

Mina does 2x his Damage

insane

[little moat]

The guy doesnt even have purple skills

I can't even

[gilded thistle]

Mina is a really good player

[simple jacinth]

yeah She dah best

[little moat]

Must be that german ping

frfr

[simple jacinth]

Sleeping on the Server ...Cowzy Wowozy

[rain nimbus]

even dark has a purple skill

[gilded thistle]

gg

[little moat]

dark is a filthy whale

[gilded thistle]

Dark is f2p wdym

[little moat]

But dark doesnt have sht anymore cuz he dedded

[rain nimbus]

dark quit

before the steam milk

then shut down

[simple jacinth]

RIP

come back from the beyond to Farm Tree Dungeon

[wooden rain]

Wow kr did it too

Actually hilarious

[rain nimbus]

zero

events

that matter

didnt kr get like 3 events this month alone or something

[little moat]

He murican tho

100k for a purple DT

[gilded thistle]

BBBbut blue selector

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

We get to Expirience the Game Raw..No evenent just pure Torture

[little moat]

Hey, NCKR did listen to our lack of events

[gilded thistle]

Ngl all these event boxes going straight to alt

[little moat]

They just didnt implement em in our server

[gilded thistle]

Depending on it's purple box we decide on build

[simple jacinth]

i made a Destro

[gilded thistle]

There's only bm sorry

And a summoner on moonwater

[little moat]

Lbm

[gilded thistle]

[little moat]

Hey me toooo

"idontknowman" is farming them compensations

[simple jacinth]

What are you Moonwater traitors

Cinderlands only lands!!!!

[little moat]

double "ddos" compensation farm char

[gilded thistle]

It's actually my first character on moonwater

[simple jacinth]

awwwww

Summoner so cute tho

best Class

[little moat]

Chifu saw we play on Winderlands so had to swtch

based based

[slender kelp]

i saw a male summoner today, that was a crazy experience

[simple jacinth]

• the Damage cuz ...just dont look at that

[gilded thistle]

I didn't know you could make a male character in mmos

[wooden rain]

If kr made new servers with wl and we're getting similar thing with steam
Does that mean they're aiming to release steam with wl 🤔

[little moat]

HEY

[gilded thistle]

[simple jacinth]

yes

[little moat]

I hope steam server shares our marketplace

[simple jacinth]

[little moat]

Cant wait to see how fast it dies after they see a random Purple being 50k+

[simple jacinth]

no it wont share annything

[gilded thistle]

They'll share the ddos

[simple jacinth]

its a whole ass seperate server like a Neo 2.0

[wooden rain]

It doesn't have to share for that to happen

[little moat]

Funny how they still call it a ddos

it aint a ddos, its spaghetti server

[gilded thistle]

You don't know that for sure

[wooden rain]

I'll probably contribute to clowning on steam reviews of neo as soon as it's available

[slender kelp]

speaking of purples, does anyone want to buy my reasonably priced purple dt on EU

[little moat]

1k

[simple jacinth]

ill give you 2k

[little moat]

gemmies

[gilded thistle]

20k and mujin carry

[little moat]

Wtf I have been beaten alrrdy

[simple jacinth]

CHIFUUU

[little moat]

5k+feet picture (of google)

[simple jacinth]

Grieving us

[gilded thistle]

What why?

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

i had his on 2 K

almost had a deal

!!!!

[little moat]

what if Chifusa tried to buy it for me

[gilded thistle]

a

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

yeah

[little moat]

goodies

[simple jacinth]

ok

[gilded thistle]

Mina comes first sorry

[simple jacinth]

DElulu much

[little moat]

Rigged

Beaten by mina again

[simple jacinth]

Sadge

[gilded thistle]

Can't get a freaking pupa fuse though

It's been like 20+ tries

Shadowbanned

[slender kelp]

i got 2 winter manes in a row (i already had vault keeper)

[little moat]

didnt u get an SS and ES back to back

[wooden rain]

I'm sorry are we gonna ignore this invasion or am i the only one who missed the news

[gilded thistle]

SS into tds into multilash

[wooden rain]

Who tf is ponpon

Koya?

[simple jacinth]

Invasion?

[little moat]

ur biggest nightmare

[simple jacinth]

yes

HEHEEHE

[wooden rain]

Brother why

Bdx you had to protect your wife from this hellhole and you failed

[little moat]

What's better then 1 yapper?

[simple jacinth]

why you mean Summoner chat are Special people

[little moat]

DOUBLE UP BONUS

[simple jacinth]

BM chat is where its at

[gilded thistle]

Nuni fused pupa besties before bed last night

[gilded thistle]

[little moat]

Bm stands for Bestest Mclass

[little moat]

I was so close to 15k gemmies yday. NEARLY a sunstroke (+10k lol)
now i'm back to 3k

[simple jacinth]

Summoners just ask the same stuff in a Loop ...feels like twighlight zone or they argue about stupid skills and get mad...

[little moat]

Saving up is so hard

[sage tulip]

[wooden rain]

The fact that it's not 100k by now shows how dead this game is

We only got like 5k messages in what, 2 weeks?

[gilded thistle]

Cheer up

[simple jacinth]

stop beeing Doomer

[little moat]

Cheer up is a poop skill

[simple jacinth]

play game

[little moat]

Storm invented dooming

[simple jacinth]

XD

[little moat]

We established that yday

[simple jacinth]

Dooming so hard , scared The Sun away

[wooden rain]

I didn't invent anything, someone just started calling existence that at some point and it stuck

[sage tulip]

[little moat]

U know what we need

a new 1010 video

[simple jacinth]

OMG this guy just Pef dissapeared

[little moat]

We need him to make new vidya so we can all laugh how dumdum he is

[simple jacinth]

he back at Genshin cuz THATS not a money Grab

[gilded thistle]

Genshin is a different breed

[simple jacinth]

yeah

[little moat]

Chifusa is genshin megalodon

or what gatcha was it again

[simple jacinth]

those people are living on a another planet sooooooo brainwashed

[gilded thistle]

Uhh no. Only played a bit.

[slender kelp]

i played genshin for years as f2p 👍

[simple jacinth]

Celt please

that means you Downloaded the game

[slender kelp]

idfk why people spend money on genshin

make you chracters broken when there's no hard content

full team of 4 stars clears everything

[simple jacinth]

WAIFUSSSS

[little moat]

Dude Genshin is a singleplayer game somehow made p2w, I still find it hilarious how they managed to pull that off

Genius af

[gilded thistle]

It's the waifus

[slender kelp]

https://tenor.com/qrWbPfExDJY.gif

[simple jacinth]

Big Bomba lady

[little moat]

Just make a Gon in bns

What else do u need

[simple jacinth]

cant say tit annymore cuz Profanity?

[gilded thistle]

Just say booba

[slender kelp]

you can't say monke with the y either

[simple jacinth]

what are these Woke restrictions

Rownan was online..read the Chat and was yeah...no im out

[little moat]

He is back to playing

https://tenor.com/view/raid-shadow-legends-raid-gif-20940490

[simple jacinth]

HAHAHAHAH

Joke right

[little moat]

no he actually plays it lol

[simple jacinth]

[wooden rain]

Bns characters all look ugly though

[simple jacinth]

WTF

[wooden rain]

Not that i care about graphics with my specs

[simple jacinth]

MINE IS BEAUTYFULL

[wooden rain]

You're a rat

[simple jacinth]

im letting my cat do a nr 2 on your Porch

[wooden rain]

Lyn is disqualified automatically

[simple jacinth]

love Lyns always played Loli on TERA

[little moat]

Tera ❤️

[simple jacinth]

Tera Combat a bit better then BnS NGL

light speed reflexes needed or deadche

[wooden rain]

Only cuz ncsoft is doing their best to ruin bns combat

Fundamentally bns is another level

[simple jacinth]

Tera and Bns are the best Combat MMo

but then FFxiv people play it and cry

[hard iris]

I prefer bdo tbh

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

CUTEEEEEEEE

[slender kelp]

i went to ff14 a few years after quitting bns live kek

[simple jacinth]

i cannot stand the Combat

it annoyed me so much

i fell asleep while casting

Constipation playstyle

[gilded thistle]

I miss my samurai on ff

[little moat]

I just rather not install a game where I have to do 800hrs of storyline before I can actually do anything

[slender kelp]

ff14 early game is pure slog

dont know if they made it any better in the meanwhile

[simple jacinth]

they didint

[little moat]

Nope

[simple jacinth]

up to heavnsward the story is 10/10

loved Ikea dragon so much

[slender kelp]

i didn't really mind the slow early game cuz i was completely chilling with the game

[wooden rain]

https://youtu.be/9ejzqm1KWjg?si=SrBrmSZVssoTcC7u

[simple jacinth]

never recovered after Ikea Dragon tho story wise

[slender kelp]

and as a lifelong final fantasy fan i was enjoying the world elements and references to other ff games

but i see why newcomers would hate it when trying it out

[little moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kaye-fruitloop-gay-discord-kaye-kuro-gif-22644032

[simple jacinth]

hey i pleyed FF on Ps back in my day

but the MMo was just not IT for me

[slender kelp]

i think i played every ff except 3 and 9

[little moat]

I just don't appreciate paying THAT MUCH for a game where the Story is mediocre and the playstyle is atrocious

[simple jacinth]

FF7 was mah baby

[little moat]

and it is on a subscription base...

[wooden rain]

Bruh 9 is one of the best wtf

[slender kelp]

yeah but you play as a rat

loses a lot of points

[simple jacinth]

O.O

this rat hate and i am a CAT thank you so much!

[wooden rain]

Wow you are kidding me, m*nkey is banned word

What in god's name

[little moat]

U have to call ppl Ogong here

Or ape

Cuz somehow ape isnt banned

[simple jacinth]

Unionize

[slender kelp]

nvm

[wooden rain]

You play as a m*nkey not rat, it's acceptable

[little moat]

Breh even pedef is banned word

[simple jacinth]

CAT

im a CAT

tail and all

just hid the Ears

cuz they kinda meh

PDFile

[wooden rain]

Next up celt will bash dbz for same reason

[simple jacinth]

is the new discription

[little moat]

He is casting his chi bomb

Give him +- 3 weeks

[slender kelp]

https://tenor.com/ujkt6bC5dDW.gif

[little moat]

[simple jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/shi-si-yes-pig-cute-gif-16043278

[wooden rain]

Seriously though 9 and 12 are my fav

[slender kelp]

12?

bro's a Fran simp

[wooden rain]

Nah zodiac age with auto combat was a fun system

[little moat]

Why isn't this a Bns neo outfit yet

Might aswell

[simple jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/mou-omae-omaewamoushindeiru-wa-omaewamou-gif-18680383

Bunny girls in Bns

[slender kelp]

i think that's the starting outfit of vieras in ff14 lmao

[gilded thistle]

The only bunny we neeed

[wooden rain]

13 had rare high moments as well, unfortunately too rare

[little moat]

dafuqs that

[simple jacinth]

who that?

[slender kelp]

bnuuy

[simple jacinth]

confusion

[little moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cuddles-htf-waving-happy-tree-friends-bunny-gif-25055824

[simple jacinth]

YES

HappyTreeFriends omg

memories

best show

[gilded thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-first-descendant-first-descendant-bunny-tfd-gif-7031590872172155363

[little moat]

Make the summoner cat be bunnified

[slender kelp]

HTF truly takes me back to third grade

[simple jacinth]

Cant wait for new patch tho....Lab and tree

hope it will be 6 man

Pray

[gilded thistle]

[little moat]

Tree 6 man

[simple jacinth]

Lev 60 here we come

need to hit lev 55 first tho

[little moat]

Can u do 54->55 in 2 weeks?

Is that a thing?

[simple jacinth]

wat

[gilded thistle]

Average 80k xp daily

[simple jacinth]

so long

[little moat]

600k for 55?

Or how much

[gilded thistle]

597500 I think

[slender kelp]

i'm sure i could get to 55 in 1 day

[little moat]

With or without farming pots?

[gilded thistle]

I forgot

[gilded thistle]

No pots

[little moat]

So +- 8 days of dailys

Noice

Can get 55 before patch

[simple jacinth]

Noice i will hit that

[little moat]

And 55 gives u a purple card box?

[simple jacinth]

Legendary weapon from Tree dung

OMG

GIB

[slender kelp]

ye

get hyped for your devourer card

[little moat]

Yo i'll take that

[simple jacinth]

XD

[little moat]

Gimme that drain set

[gilded thistle]

I got yehara

Sadge

[little moat]

I cry for Yunma, Devourer or Chef

Gib gib

[simple jacinth]

i want the other chick