Blade Master

[calm kestrel]

book stacking makes it much worse sacrificing utility for more dps

[queen marsh]

This here is an NCsoft game y'see

Fun is not allowed

[calm kestrel]

[queen marsh]

They may have made a good game on accident but god damn it are they going to try as hard as they can to make it worse

Really dedicated people tbh

Enshittening a game for checks notes more than 10 years straight is no small achievement

Also come to think of it you're in kg's clan right?

Do you know why he's usin light tab instead of sunstroke

It's been bothering me since I saw it lmao

[rain nimbus]

WTB purple ss NA

[odd dagger]

bruh people really overrated these dungeons?
bsh training base is so damn easy

[calm kestrel]

i can ask him

[queen marsh]

Yeah I'm curious

[calm kestrel]

@queen marsh

Tell him sun stroke is x10 better for pve but because im doing pvp stuff too im using lightning tab
It allows you to freely do combo without chi worries

[queen marsh]

Right so he's eating the ~10% dps diff

ic

[calm kestrel]

Oh and also purple sun stroke costs like 15-20k gems
Im poor

[queen marsh]

Couldn't imagine trying to pvp in neo tbh

Man's braver than most

Just not having a flicker stun is a dealbreaker

[wooden rain]

what flicker stun? all i hear is debuff resist

[queen marsh]

Add it to the pile of reasons I'll never touch neo "pvp"

[rain nimbus]

WTB purple ss NA

[wooden rain]

you're buying skills like they're permanently unlockable and not accessory-bound

[wooden rain]

i'll avoid it as much as possible as well, only touched 1 match for this battlepass so far and god it's cancer even if i won

i can't understand how anyone would have fun there

[queen marsh]

I mean no arena is the first and only step they needed to take to make sure I never want to touch their pvp lmao

[wooden rain]

it's all a dps check

[rain nimbus]

WTB purple ss NA

[wooden rain]

what did you expect

[odd dagger]

its not even hard of a dps check

im not talking about mechs

if u pull 16k on cs with a summoner , u can do training base alr

[wooden rain]

i mean it depends on what you consider a hard dps check, a really big part of 750 ap randoms do 11k or less, even with cr/cd and accuracy

and it's still a pretty big gear requirement as a jump from 5k previous patch

[odd dagger]

dont really care about people who dont know how to play the game

[wooden rain]

90% of the population

[odd dagger]

rather just have the 10%

[wooden rain]

the game does a great job at teaching as well

[odd dagger]

mmos are about learning urself for the most part.

[wooden rain]

i don't understand your standards and i don't want to

[odd dagger]

yes same

[wooden rain]

any time a game uses "other games do this" as an excuse, it's bad

[rain nimbus]

wtb purple ss NA

[wooden rain]

purple ss doesn't drop every 5 minutes dude

[rain nimbus]

it does

[somber dagger]

Some peeeps know how to but they need time to regear or restats some gear bro

You can't expecy everyone to be ready first week haha

[odd dagger]

if they know how to , they will get there instead of complaining that "oh no! its impossible"

[rain nimbus]

question

if i get purple ss

do i rly need es

if i have vt too

could you ani cancel with koldrak instead bc its more dmg

and if i fk up and lose bd koldrak would help

[urban bridge]

I'm finally free

my last one I needed

[rain nimbus]

i saw a meme today

[twin lark]

I remember when someone posted that for 80k

To the person that bought it, sorry to tell you, you got scammed

[rain nimbus]

it would be cool

it could be good

if it had a badge

just make "pierce" work for all 3

then flock would reduce focus by 1 too

[twin lark]

Agree

[rain nimbus]

its the coolest skill ngl

[somber dagger]

It is not impossible but cs got buffed , they removed party buff. Even when patch got released in KR they still had partybuff so it was a bit easier than for us. So you can't blame people there is a real lack on the game balance. I don't mind the difficulty but you have to remember people play video games to have fun and right now they are suffering more than having fun if we talk about a general scale.

It is a good thing that they nerfed a bit mushin floors tho it makes it more possible for f2p people.

[wooden rain]

i dunno about the mushin tower point, i feel like only the most unfortunate classes had any trouble with them at this point, even if f2p

f2p meaning complete pleb

[urban bridge]

not easier, they didn't have skillbook stacking

[little moat]

I am f2p

[urban bridge]

and each accessory slot had certain skills that can go on it

[odd dagger]

they have party buff but no book stacking

its literally same same if not easier for us

[little moat]

But its true, our CS got 6m more hp and no party buff

[urban bridge]

the only difference between kr during bsh patch and ours is they had party buff but no skill book stacking, while we have skillbook stacking but no party buff

everything else was the same

[wooden rain]

people who can stack blues/purples wouldn't have had trouble either way

[urban bridge]

oh I guess they didn't have the buffs that some skills got later on

that we already have

[odd dagger]

u do know u can stack greens?

[somber dagger]

Oh yeah we can stack blue purple books

True

[twin lark]

It's not that ppl say it's impossible. It's that when content gets released unless you have a clan to help you, you're pretty much fcked, cause most pts will be asking for insane reqs day 1, even if you have minimum dps req to complete it, they want you to hit 2k above min and that's just unrealistic cause not everyone play everyday and those who just started this week, will have to wait more than a month to catch up and by the time they do, new content will be released, making them quit (if they didn't on first week)

[somber dagger]

That's why I got so many purple books right

That's why we have so many purple dt and ss on market right

[little moat]

Yes!

Eggsactly

[urban bridge]

Like dt for example got a 20% dmg buff later on

that we already have

but they didn't have during bsh patch

[little moat]

Buy out all the purple DTs off the market

Oh...

[somber dagger]

You talking about something that most players can't even access how is that even relevant

[odd dagger]

why are u talking about purple stacking?

[somber dagger]

You need to consider the whole player base not only whales

[odd dagger]

10% more dmg from green stacking

is already more than whatever blue buff gives

[wooden rain]

really class and build dependent

[rain nimbus]

WTB purple ss NA

[wooden rain]

green/blue wind kfm has like 12-14 core skills

and regardless i'm playing pure fire and i still have i think around 12 separate skills just because i like utility over braindead stacking

i'll take whatever KR had previously over grandmaster

and then other people are like "play what you want" while at the same time defending the unreal dps requirements for new content

yeah i'm sure blue lightning BM playing what he wants would have a hell of a time here

[urban bridge]

dps requirement needs to be lowered thats for certain

but I get the feeling they wont

they are dumbing down fights that had mechanics

and raising dps checks

like highland exile at least had some semblance of mechanics

now its just straight dodge aoe dps check

[little moat]

How is hybrid? 😉

@rain nimbus

[rain nimbus]

wtb purple ss NA

[wooden rain]

give it 3 days, he'll be tired of it

[rain nimbus]

not if i can get purple ss

and purple vortex

and maybe another bd failsafe

[wooden rain]

there is no number of failsafes that allow you to skip dodging and blocking entirely

[rain nimbus]

never said there was

but they help

[wooden rain]

it sure sounds like what you're looking for

[little moat]

Dang those badges tho

I need me some hp critrate badge

[urban bridge]

I might need to reroll mine from piercing to hp

really feeling the dmg these days

[little moat]

my 45k hp is lacking

[urban bridge]

I have 75k and it feels lacking

blood mane be doing like 7k per hit

while I'm tanking

[rain nimbus]

i like hp

i got skill issue

do we use basic stance 2 for anything

or can i multislash (its my 50 book lol)

for failsafe

[little moat]

2 for focus recov if u dont have purple ss

[rain nimbus]

basic 2?

[little moat]

both

[odd dagger]

cooking?

[urban bridge]

frankly

whenever I do get to purple stacking in the future

[little moat]

I like that

[urban bridge]

I probably will stack some sabers instead of dts

having violent blade always available is just too nice

[little moat]

Hybrid is not very efficient to stack but ES is alot cheaper

So why not.

[urban bridge]

I rather eat the dps loss

[little moat]

Es vs Dt is the same gain if u go blue to purple

Its just alot cheaper lol

[odd dagger]

actually might be cost effective

since es purple prolly same dmg as dt?

[little moat]

Ye

[odd dagger]

or close enough

2.95 vs 3.1

[rain nimbus]

legendary dragontongue

all u need

[little moat]

8 of em

[urban bridge]

until they release legendary es

[rain nimbus]

legendary tab

i wonder what cat keyboard streamers bm looks like

anyone got kr who can see

also.. does anyone think multislash could be used? blade call?

for bad ppl like me

blade call doesnt seem too bad

i mean theyre like 45/1m cooldowns but 🤷‍♀️

i rly need to use blade storm.. i havent once

[urban bridge]

what do you mean by what he looks like

I've used multislash before its usable on hybrid as a failsafe

not the greatest failsafe obviously

[rain nimbus]

what his bms gear/books look like

[lean sundial]

Or git gud and blame your team if they mess you up

[rain nimbus]

multislash/bladecall and what else can trigger bd?

[lean sundial]

Keep a purple HS for when that happens

Blade call triggers BDr...?

[rain nimbus]

would love a list of all the skills that can trigger it

yes

[urban bridge]

thats it for now lol

[lean sundial]

Damn

Who uses that even

[rain nimbus]

aboutta be me

but 0 on market

and i need purple ss

[lean sundial]

Using blade call as a bdr failsafe is wild

[rain nimbus]

oh and vortex

[little moat]

I would use blade call, Its a good burst and does more dmg then an additional DT/ES

[lean sundial]

I would use it but not as a "BDr failsafe"

[rain nimbus]

why not lol

3s turns into 6 more

gotta be a good failsafew

[lean sundial]

I would use it for damage

[little moat]

ye its for dmg

[lean sundial]

Not for the 3s of BDr it gives every minute

Lmao

[rain nimbus]

i mean its cool

[odd dagger]

u dont need all these

[lean sundial]

Useless sure

[odd dagger]

u jst need koldrak or vortex as fail safe

[lean sundial]

Just like HS

[odd dagger]

oops

forgot hes hs

[rain nimbus]

koldrak?

[lean sundial]

Vortex is enough

He hybrid iirc

For now

[odd dagger]

vortex and V

[urban bridge]

btw cat keyboard guy is top 8 in wb in kr with his lmb tab pierce build

[rain nimbus]

i am rn

[odd dagger]

is more than enough

u dont really need to use V at start if u jst wanna keep it as fail safe

[rain nimbus]

keyboard is using hybrid

[urban bridge]

he doesn't use hybrid anymore

[rain nimbus]

he does

promise

[lean sundial]

Time to swap out dark

Pierce too good

[urban bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCVnvifpzrk&ab_channel=딸용이 his last stream 8 days ago

[rain nimbus]

this is earlier

[urban bridge]

oh

we talking about different cat keyboard guy

thats why

lmao

[rain nimbus]

i dont see a cat keyboard there

[lean sundial]

Playing with GT

[urban bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx7_TwvXmIQ&ab_channel=딸용이

he changes from time to time lol

[rain nimbus]

what is gt

[lean sundial]

Some kr destroyer

What you could be

Someone posted a screenshot of his f3 here yesterday or smthg

[rain nimbus]

babyarms is buying des books like 35k ea

[lean sundial]

144 gm on execute?

[rain nimbus]

his des is ozempic

[lean sundial]

This could be you, Dark

[odd dagger]

he coulda been pure fire with purple DT with how much he spend on rerolling

[rain nimbus]

I think

I'm good now

Fr

I like it

I just need purple SS / vortex

[odd dagger]

vortex can be green

u jst need bdr

nothing else

[rain nimbus]

I thought purple was the one

Why tf does it always say people when I swipe purple

Just Christ Android

[odd dagger]

ya u dont need purple for it

purple vortex is for pierce build

[rain nimbus]

Let me see

[brave pendant]

heh I'm not even playing vortex with pierce

don't have the focus

[odd dagger]

kekw

[rain nimbus]

Blue is the lowest IDE go

[drowsy palm]

So you are blue ?

[rain nimbus]

Green doesn't add the extra focus recovery

[odd dagger]

isnt blue like 300 gems

[drowsy palm]

Oh really

[rain nimbus]

Yeah maybe

Blue is fine

[drowsy palm]

You sold puncture already ?

[odd dagger]

he did

under 3hrs

[rain nimbus]

Within the hour

Well 3 is accurate rly

[twin lark]

Welcome to pierce gang

[odd dagger]

hes hybrid

[rain nimbus]

SS.. ? Pierce??

Is there another SS than sun stroke

😂

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[rain nimbus]

Hybrid is fun

[drowsy palm]

What was Price

[rain nimbus]

I like how fast with vt you can reset the tab

Vt badge

I just need purple tab

[rain nimbus]

Price of?

[drowsy palm]

Puncture u sold

[rain nimbus]

I bought it 38k

Sold 35?

Just to get rid fast

Was crashing out. Macro bs and not enough crit

So now I hold macro and dance around

[twin lark]

Why would you sell puncture?

[drowsy palm]

35 is good

No you can buy hornet bees

[rain nimbus]

Stop

Giga switched to flower

[drowsy palm]

Or stormcleave

[rain nimbus]

Another dark magician crash out

A summoner doing that DPS but it's fake

[drowsy palm]

Maybe, maybe not

[rain nimbus]

It is

[drowsy palm]

@little moat Stop Fake afk

[rain nimbus]

Summoners do negative dps

[drowsy palm]

Where is my sum of Last 24h

@lean sundial Why u quit

[lean sundial]

Bdx dead

[drowsy palm]

[rain nimbus]

Anyways.. anyone got purple SS na

[lean sundial]

F.ck f7
Not having fun
Will get worse as game goes on (will likely never hit reqs for highland/lab as f2p)

[rain nimbus]

Didn't you quit

[drowsy palm]

I See make Sense

[lean sundial]

Game is catering to spending players and that's fine

[drowsy palm]

Yeah maybe I should Sell also

And move back to live

😆

[rain nimbus]

Nice meme

[lean sundial]

Aren't both in a terrible state

[drowsy palm]

Yep 🤣

[rain nimbus]

Live has less pop than neo

[lean sundial]

I did, what's wrong

[drowsy palm]

WTS Full pierce Set DM

[lean sundial]

(48 GM)

[burnt helm]

Damn everyone quitting

[drowsy palm]

Trustworthy ?

[lean sundial]

[rain nimbus]

Wtf LMAO nice Photoshop

[lean sundial]

Maria is EU Dark

[drowsy palm]

🤣🤣

[rain nimbus]

Yes they're eu

[lean sundial]

At least they're committed to their build

More than 2hrs at once

[drowsy palm]

I was Committed at every Build

Highest dps won

[rain nimbus]

Hey I'm sticking with this one

I'm cool now playing the cool build

[burnt helm]

Let me hold onto your pierce stuff

[lean sundial]

Wasn't HS the cool build

[rain nimbus]

Uh

Zdps

[lean sundial]

That's a thing with all builds

If you don't know how to properly play them

[rain nimbus]

That's a lie

[twin lark]

ngl out of all builds, HS looks the most fun

[lean sundial]

We'll see when you just tabbed, boss jumped

[twin lark]

even though it's too brainrot

[drowsy palm]

Mimimi

[rain nimbus]

Multi slash blade call

Fixed

Qol meme is better than 2dt book

I'ma do it

[drowsy palm]

I suggest Blade Dancer

Or summoner

[rain nimbus]

I got multi from 50

[lean sundial]

Or git gud

[drowsy palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sitting-cat-deck-cat-stairs-gif-9536264796147594057

[lean sundial]

Vortex is the only failsafe you "really need"

[drowsy palm]

No sometimes you need alt f4

[rain nimbus]

What does kr use

[lean sundial]

Purple ss & virtuous badge

[drowsy palm]

All Play KFM

[lean sundial]

And stack dt/es

[drowsy palm]

They dont like dps

[lean sundial]

Why use sh.t "qol" when you can simply get better

[drowsy palm]

🤣

[lean sundial]

Maria, how long till Noush reaches this

[odd dagger]

hes prolly waiting for legendary to come in cs or auction

doesnt look like he is a gambler

[hard iris]

how many faction areas for dailies to we have?

[odd dagger]

2

[hard iris]

in total?

[odd dagger]

actually cinderland daily can also be done still i think

[hard iris]

Misty Woods, Beach, Desert 1, Desert 2 and that little forest area. I count 5 but I wonder if there's more

[rain nimbus]

Near Pondskip

Viridian lol

[hard iris]

oh

[rain nimbus]

The bulbari

Wheel

[hard iris]

Bulbari, isn't that in cinderlands?

[rain nimbus]

Yes

[odd dagger]

u cant do desert dailies anymore right?

[rain nimbus]

Why wouldn't you?

[hard iris]

you can

[rain nimbus]

Or no exp?

[hard iris]

they are just not being displayed on teh map

u get exp as well

[rain nimbus]

Yes they are

Show low level quests on map

[odd dagger]

oh what

[rain nimbus]

It's a game option

In settings

[hard iris]

ohhh I didn't know that's a thing

that's what I get for typing in #💬︱neo-chat my braincells die

[bronze bolt]

your flock of blades is already your failsafe.

[rain nimbus]

Is it rly

[bronze bolt]

yea

[rain nimbus]

I never use it as failsafe

Because I use rod and whatnot

[bronze bolt]

i dont cast flock of blades, unless something happened during my bd buff, and i can't reset my tab cd.

[rain nimbus]

Good idea

[bronze bolt]

your rotation is just

tab>es/dt>tab>es/dt

but like

lets say you tab, and the boss jumps away for like 6 seconds

and you get 0 es/dt in

that's when you use flock as your failsafe

[hard iris]

22030 exp if u do all faction's nto to bad

[rain nimbus]

Sometimes.. I use flock and blade strike never shows up or whatever the skills called

[bronze bolt]

well

you need to v>q>x or v>4>x or v>ss>x

but yea

flock of blades is your only failsafe.

and it's more than enough

[rain nimbus]

I pressed v then SS and it never switched

[bronze bolt]

i guess vortex wave is pretty decent too?

but if you need more than flock and vortex wave as fail safes, i think you should just go back to lmb tab

some fights are just not it

[rain nimbus]

Hybrid with fail-safes still does more damage than lmb tab

[bronze bolt]

it doesn't

[rain nimbus]

Sure does

[bronze bolt]

ok

[rain nimbus]

Surely it does

[bronze bolt]

if you say so.

but why stress

and worry about things like that

[sage tulip]

how you liking hybrid dark?

[bronze bolt]

basic very chill.

[rain nimbus]

I mean you have actual badges and can get purple dt or es

[bronze bolt]

basic stance

is very chill

[rain nimbus]

I would like it more with purple SS

[sage tulip]

😭

[rain nimbus]

And to learn how to use my failsafe properly and not panic

[bronze bolt]

that you just need some time to get used too.

[sage tulip]

yeah

i still mess up sometimes

[rain nimbus]

Don't worry the kr steamer was lmbing

[bronze bolt]

but purple sunstroke doesn't get you more es/dt casts, it just gives you a bigger buffer room in case you mess up.

[rain nimbus]

He messed up

I need all the room for error as possible until I get good

8s is a lot

[sage tulip]

with purple ss you also reset it faster so more dmg

[bronze bolt]

30>24

[sage tulip]

more casts

[rain nimbus]

6s myb

[bronze bolt]

more ss casts

yes.

[sage tulip]

yes

[rain nimbus]

More ss more focus

[hard iris]

I'm contemplating whether to get purple ss first or try to get my hands on virt mystic

[bronze bolt]

but like, is it really worth 20k?

just try the build first for a bit, and then decide, no?

[rain nimbus]

Yes I'll but that rn 20k

[bronze bolt]

like

more than 1 hour

[rain nimbus]

Who got 1

[bronze bolt]

LMAO

[sage tulip]

ill let you know when i buy one

[rain nimbus]

Who selling purple SS na

[hard iris]

anybody knows last known price for purple ss on eu?

[sage tulip]

around 25k

[rain nimbus]

I would but it instantly I got the gems

[hard iris]

sounds fair

[rain nimbus]

I like the build

[hard iris]

gotta save some dgems

[bronze bolt]

have you tried cs with hybrid?

[rain nimbus]

I already upgraded both vt badges for the build salvaging my old ones

[sage tulip]

yes

[bronze bolt]

not you minareow

im asking dark

xdd

[sage tulip]

[rain nimbus]

No I didn't even get 1gm dt yet I'm just waiting on ss

[bronze bolt]

💀

you're waiting for purple sunstroke before you try cs...?

[rain nimbus]

I don't want to spend gold valor stones or anything until I get the ss

[drowsy palm]

hey jmar dont be toxic to mina

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gaming-gif-25430450

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbik-cute-meme-influencer-gif-21732737

[bronze bolt]

not being toxic to mina

[sage tulip]

[bronze bolt]

mina a real one

[drowsy palm]

hope for you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055683073506816020/1284224702201593929/pewpew.gif

[bronze bolt]

xdd

[rain nimbus]

No one is going to take me in cs rn

[drowsy palm]

i wonder why

[bronze bolt]

yea it's kind of rough

[drowsy palm]

[rain nimbus]

I got like 10 missing books

[bronze bolt]

nah pugging is rough

oh

wait

let me f3 your character lmao

[rain nimbus]

I'm waiting on ss before I do anything

[drowsy palm]

people wouöd take you if you are sum

[sage tulip]

show char

[rain nimbus]

It still has tab lmb books

[sage tulip]

real

[drowsy palm]

i dont know if we want to see that

[sage tulip]

one book from every build

[drowsy palm]

@rain nimbus go on

show us F3

[rain nimbus]

I'm going to troll and get purple scale ripper

[drowsy palm]

@lean sundial

[bronze bolt]

dark is like thanos

[drowsy palm]

we get something special now

[hard iris]

gotta get mroe crit or acc to pump more dps on mane

[bronze bolt]

collecting the books

[lean sundial]

I honestly can't pinpoint if Dark is a serious player or a major troll

[drowsy palm]

@little moat wake up

[sage tulip]

its hard to tell

[rain nimbus]

I'm srs but I'm in bed I'm not loading my f3

[lean sundial]

"I need purple SS"
"I need all the failsafes"

[bronze bolt]

it's fine

im loading

ill f3 dark

[lean sundial]

No you just need to press your buttons and use your brain

[drowsy palm]

well

[sage tulip]

[drowsy palm]

i see a big skill gap here

[rain nimbus]

It still has trash books from tab build

[drowsy palm]

you miss like 28% dps

[rain nimbus]

Need to swap a lot out

[drowsy palm]

show F3

stop yapping

[sage tulip]

was prepared for worse, this looks normal

somewhat

[lean sundial]

That's literally him Maria

[rain nimbus]

It's above..

[drowsy palm]

no way

[bronze bolt]

😂

[drowsy palm]

show stats

[hard iris]

what can I improve?

[rain nimbus]

All that is getting reworked

[drowsy palm]

anicancel

faster

[hard iris]

can't improve that

[drowsy palm]

you at 5/7

per 4 sec

ouch

[lean sundial]

Play basic

Tab stacking

[rain nimbus]

I just haven't bought books yet because SS is goal

[hard iris]

my macro skips for some reason and I don't have purple ss yet for 100% dt/es uptime

[drowsy palm]

@bronze bolt can u show stat sheet

of Dark Troll

[rain nimbus]

Wtf you wanna see that for

[lean sundial]

How terrible it gets

[drowsy palm]

cause i assume

you run with POH RING AND EARRING

WITHOUT ANY CRIT

AND STILL THINK ITS GOOD

[hard iris]

or mystic virt, that should change my es/dt ratio

[rain nimbus]

No?

[sage tulip]

hes got over 3k crit no?

[odd dagger]

he has 3k+

[drowsy palm]

show me

poh ring

poh earring

and stats

[rain nimbus]

It's crit hp

[drowsy palm]

crit rate or crit damage

[lean sundial]

He's got "stacked" stats for a f2p

[rain nimbus]

Each is different

[drowsy palm]

as f2p you should never play poh

never in any world

[sage tulip]

"f2p"

[rain nimbus]

Ring is CD earring is cr iirc

[lean sundial]

I never said he was

[drowsy palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vomit-luvicat-stupid-funni-gif-21439008

[lean sundial]

I just said he had f2p stats

[drowsy palm]

whale with f2p stats

i see

what u did there

[rain nimbus]

Do I have f2p stats

[lean sundial]

He's probs got a bit more cd than what I had

[drowsy palm]

so more than 10

[hard iris]

if they look something like that, yes.

[drowsy palm]

i see

Maria Taylor Swiftblade / Ninja left Chat

[sharp current]

ive spent $0 and this is my stats

[lean sundial]

As 100% f2p I had 750 ap, 950 acc, 3k cr, 1.3 cd (was going to use bottom accessories to improve CD)

[rain nimbus]

I was at 3k/2k but switched for acc. My mystic badge is hurting I need to reroll it

[lean sundial]

I'm not trusting that

[sage tulip]

could be just very lucky with drops

[brave pendant]

Pretty good stats. Needs some purple books now

[sage tulip]

[sharp current]

purple books too expensive, i sell everything, i dont gamble

[lean sundial]

5/5 purple gambas and it's all sun strokes

[brave pendant]

yeah I got similar stats but kind of got lucky with opening some purples that I sold

[sage tulip]

[sharp current]

i just used a lot of bottles of tower

[sharp current]

and every blue book i get i sell

[lean sundial]

Cd

Pls

[lean sundial]

F2p stats

[brave pendant]

those are good stats

[sharp current]

thats always a compliment

[rain nimbus]

CD hurting

[bronze bolt]

those are not f2p

[rain nimbus]

Was 2k

[bronze bolt]

stats

😭

[brave pendant]

that's like top 5 BM on my server. capable of doing 16k on CS at least I'm sure

[bronze bolt]

im closer to f2p stats

[lean sundial]

He's a giga whale tho

[brave pendant]

oh. I mean. I don't see enough purple books for that

[brave pendant]

From the low AP. Maybe like 8k dps on CS?

[bronze bolt]

this bm does like 13-14k?

[brave pendant]

that's assuming if they play well

[bronze bolt]

my other bm does like 16k?

[brave pendant]

very nice then

[rain nimbus]

Show other bm

[sharp current]

wtf multiple bm

[sharp current]

rn i do 17k in bsh1 and my 2 alts are bbr slaves

[lean sundial]

PURP CYCLONE

[brave pendant]

green pierce stacking? not CS ready probably

[lean sundial]

[bronze bolt]

the green pierce stacking is i was doing some testing

[brave pendant]

oh purp cyclone makes it huge

but green pierce? too cheap

[bronze bolt]

but i had tab stacking before

greens

IM POOR

[rain nimbus]

I didn't even add green dt lol

Waiting on ss

Wtb purple SS na

[bronze bolt]

MY STATS ARE CLOSER TO F2P STATS

😭

[brave pendant]

I didn't know how many people struggled with cs until I tried carrying a few today

some said they make big upgrades trying to clear

and I'm like yeah seems good. half blue books. 760 AP. sin. no electropierce though. 6k dps in CS

[bronze bolt]

i restarted my act, but im about to go into cs on my es/dt bm

ill post after the run

[rain nimbus]

Jmar can you tell me if there's a SS for sale rn

[rain nimbus]

Ty

[bronze bolt]

🫡

[brave pendant]

there's never enough purple BM books for sale

[sharp current]

im probably the strongest f2p bm

[rain nimbus]

Maybe tomorrow is the day

[brave pendant]

what's your dps in cs / training base?

[rain nimbus]

@north burrow is the strongest f2p bm

[sharp current]

cs i do 20k and training base i do 17-18k

[brave pendant]

we are about equal then

[rain nimbus]

I wanna see

Any bm streaming

[brave pendant]

DT is pretty strong

you are running with barely any purple books while I have many

[sharp current]

my only purple is the one from lvl 50, and its block parry LOL

[hard iris]

the badges make a good difference on sun stroke uptime

[rain nimbus]

My BP purple is dt

[bronze bolt]

kaari lord

[rain nimbus]

You recording?

[bronze bolt]

wintermane

this is my es/dt bm.

and no, i don't record

[sage tulip]

@sharp current how much does your SS and DT hit on dummy with those stats?

on crit

[urban bridge]

hydro is very strong f2p bm I can vouch

[odd dagger]

whats the point of 100g bsh ss craft lmao

[lean sundial]

Players who can't clear

[hard iris]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burning-engine-sailors-burning-money-gif-10398172

[lean sundial]

Or whale bait

[sharp current]

on dummy, ss does 40k and dt does 10k

[sage tulip]

mine on dummy does like 32-34k

in bsh 20-22k

SS that is

[wooden rain]

someone needs to stack piercing stat and see how much it changes

[drowsy palm]

bad stats

[sage tulip]

yea ik

[drowsy palm]

i mean this

not you mina

[sage tulip]

mine are awful

[drowsy palm]

dont know how link broke lol

[sage tulip]

but i saved up for book

[drowsy palm]

thats normal

[sage tulip]

book that doesnt exist

[drowsy palm]

i mean most BM dolphins are done

so no one craft

[sage tulip]

[drowsy palm]

lets go quick

hardstuck lvl 50

[sage tulip]

time to grind

[drowsy palm]

maybe we get a selection chest some day

g2g in 2 hours

so guess it gonna be quick

[sage tulip]

yeah.. in store for dgems most likely

[drowsy palm]

no one online for bsh command ;/

[sage tulip]

😭

[hard iris]

which badges are tab gamer using?

[odd dagger]

tab stacking?

[sage tulip]

probably the ones that give you best stats

[hard iris]

yea

[sage tulip]

[drowsy palm]

[hard iris]

so any badge

[odd dagger]

ya it doesnt matter what u use but i am doing saber tech

[sage tulip]

yeah

xd

[odd dagger]

so saber badge

[hard iris]

it#s just for my alt

[odd dagger]

ya then no badge

whatever is cheapest for stat

how is there so many pirate brace in market , are so many pt clearing hae mujin?

or are people selling from crafts

[hard iris]

is purple breeze essential for tab stacking?

[odd dagger]

no

u ideally should be using either of other 2

at blue skills , scarlet breeze is better

[hard iris]

iight bet ty

[brave pendant]

CS /training base parties will love you if you use scarlet breeze and have perma bleed stacks

[hard iris]

it's just an alt to farm baylee

[odd dagger]

i dont think his alt is hitting 14k dps for those

[brave pendant]

isn't it 12k for wintermane?

[odd dagger]

even that

[brave pendant]

yeah for alts that's gonna be really rough

[odd dagger]

thats quite a bit of investment to reach

unless ur name is hiya

[drowsy palm]

well

should i change my guides

to more

f2p friendly settings

so people stop asking all over the same again xd

maybe i should add brainrot also

for @rain nimbus

[sage tulip]

[brave pendant]

should do that so he stops changing builds every day

[drowsy palm]

so like a real guide

cause my xls is just

for brainers

but im to bored to write

any1 want to write and i just give brain

[sage tulip]

Dark found a build he likes now, im sure he will stick to this one!

[drowsy palm]

sunflower?

oder is it hornets

[sage tulip]

thats maybe for next week

[drowsy palm]

😄

[brave pendant]

hornets then sunflower once there's $

[drowsy palm]

i guess when i hit 55 in 2 weeks

i create an comparison between all classes and builds

dps wise

so people can start reroll

[sage tulip]

nothings gonna change is it

dont see why

[drowsy palm]

people assume BM is crazy

[brave pendant]

we are gonna be out of players in 2 weeks

[wooden rain]

nah

[drowsy palm]

but did you see the other ap factors XD

[sage tulip]

oh you mean compared to other classes?

[wooden rain]

2 weeks after naryu lab comes out maybe

[drowsy palm]

yes all classes

[sage tulip]

oo

[drowsy palm]

for BM im done already since some weeks lol

[brave pendant]

already I can see people just getting obliterated with not being able to do CS

[drowsy palm]

i tested all when i spent 200k nc on crafting purple books to test all builds

[sage tulip]

200k

[drowsy palm]

like month or longer ago

[brave pendant]

people who can carry poh with ease are now crying with being irrelevant in CS

[drowsy palm]

cs is skill issue

[wooden rain]

yeah but they've yet to see that things will only get worse with next updates

[drowsy palm]

my alts can clear it

[drowsy palm]

true

[wooden rain]

dps is the only requirement, "skill issue"

[drowsy palm]

im kinda disappointed by MSP timegated

[sage tulip]

most randoms do around 10k in cs

[drowsy palm]

i mean thats skill issue

and knowledge issue

[sage tulip]

yeah they have gear

[brave pendant]

what I see are 6-10k. 6 is a bit too hard to carry

[sage tulip]

idk what they doing

[drowsy palm]

my alts dont ahve gear

[wooden rain]

you can literally have a bot clear CS if you give it your gear

[drowsy palm]

i agree

but thats the game

if they can play

move to an other game

its ok and just common

[brave pendant]

I wish I can say "just wait, get some levels, you can clear soon enough", but getting levels takes a long while

[drowsy palm]

if raids would come it filters most players anyways

[wooden rain]

by the time you get some levels you need to be geared for next patch kekw

[brave pendant]

I see people trying to upgrade every day and getting no closer to min dps

[drowsy palm]

levels wont help if you are born with 2 left hands and 5 thumbs at each

upgrade skill

not gear

learn how to play

dodge correct

play wise

know what boss is doing

when to use what iframe

[wooden rain]

maria make a new account, spend 0 cents on it and don't use any friends to help

see how long it takes you to get to cs

[drowsy palm]

from now on?

prolly not long

[wooden rain]

now's as good a time as any

[drowsy palm]

max 1 week

[wooden rain]

i would like to see that

[drowsy palm]

should i start twitch career now

[wooden rain]

sure

[drowsy palm]

god damn

ok

ttv/MasterIJ

im gonna rename later

[sage tulip]

[drowsy palm]

i dont have any BNS clips left i see lol

better dont look at my clips you will be scared

[sharp current]

if i were to make a f2p guide, it would just be, dont gamble

[drowsy palm]

i create an other account lol

[drowsy palm]

thats a good point

[brave pendant]

Just play 3 chars. 12hr/day

[sharp current]

i think current patch, my main takes like 4 hours and my alts take 40mins bbr spam

[wooden rain]

no mushin?

[sharp current]

all dailies and training base spam is so time consuming

[brave pendant]

wish I can only take 4hrs on my main... doing dailies takes way too much time

[sharp current]

if i feel like i had time, i just do 1 daily mushin for alts then bbr spam

[brave pendant]

I think I have to skip doing some dailies like blues if I want to get in more training bases

[sharp current]

luckily my party clears training base consistently now so it goes by pretty fast

my f2p guide
-farm tower
-from tower u get insignias and rare element
-use the rare element and sell purple psyches
-just sell the blues u dont need instead of gambling for purple
-unfortunately u need to play alts or at least roll wheel on them and craft psyches to sell
-settle for 1 line psyches on ur accessories, weapons and soul shield

learn ur class!!!! ask questions, search builds, research why its bad/good, practice and dont gamble!

[sage tulip]

[drowsy palm]

what build u play?

[brave pendant]

BMs have it easy though since so many different viable builds. other classes are locked to maybe 2-3 options and still do awful dps when played excellently

[sage tulip]

they should reroll bm and start making frickin books

[wooden rain]

which classes is that, sin and sum?

[sharp current]

i think DT is also just op, my alts do 10k in bbr and they are pretty bare bones

[wooden rain]

my kfm has 10k at 650

[drowsy palm]

no

[sharp current]

kfm is also op

i think my friend did like, almost 18k with full green books

[drowsy palm]

the problem is

people think that some blue/Purp books are required to play a class

but its not

[wooden rain]

regardless the time requirement is massive as you say if you want to move at a good pace

and rng isn't even taken into account

[drowsy palm]

mhm

[odd dagger]

its going to take a bit to reach cs , but that should be given?

u are new player trying to do new patch stuff

[drowsy palm]

i mean also this game is not a solo game

[odd dagger]

but u can definitely reach poh/tae in less than a week

[drowsy palm]

find a guild

[wooden rain]

in this version clan is more like a suggestion

[odd dagger]

ya i dont get why finding people to play with is considered wrong.
Its an mmo, u are supposed to interact with people.

[sharp current]

yea but thats kinda how it is with the mmo genre, its just about who invest the most time, rng is just a factor that can give u shortcuts, same with topping up

[wooden rain]

here it can actually be demotivating

like 80% of the people i talked or played regularly with have quit already

my clan is going through a purge for inactivity rn and it seems it will lose more than half of its members

tons of other clans i know already are fully dead

[brave pendant]

for certain classes like summoner though, to hit the min dps they have to be extremely strong and invested in the right skills. Meanwhile top destroyers can't hit min dps, but they can bring excellent utility

[wooden rain]

and the thing is, quite a few of the people that quit are those that were doing well gearing wise

[sharp current]

my experience so far has been the opposite, altho my friend circle is more on the hardcore side and not so much casual

but in general, thats always the trend is that its a downward slope, no matter what game u play

with the occasional rise when patches hit

[brave pendant]

yeah if you are used to only clearing with certain people then you don't see all the struggle pug parties that forms and wipes repeatedly in cs.

when I'm not with my usual group, even clearing CS becomes challenging

[jaunty lark]

but im a lone an edgy player, wdym 😔

[sharp current]

i join pugs when our hmbs don't line up, i see it

CS is a really hard content for a lot of ppl

[wooden rain]

not as hard as in this game

although i generally don't play mmos

[jaunty lark]

issue is that CS itself its not hard

its either u have dmg or u dont

[brave pendant]

only a small fraction of the playerbase has minimum or above dps for cs. We are used to seeing them and grouping with them. going with randoms usually results in struggles

[jaunty lark]

quite simple

and dmg can be build factor, knowledge factor, skill issue factor, or "you play in uganda and can do a hit for sh*t" factor

[wooden rain]

and even the class rotations are really simple or severely simplified as you get better gear

[drowsy palm]

i mean

look at my gear

i cant solo content

[wooden rain]

the rest is hardware & network

[drowsy palm]

and even if i would find 5 equal geared people

they need to know how to play

also its 0 fun to play with people i dont interact

and best case u run more often and come along

its still an mmo

[sharp current]

i think CS is way more engaging than poh/chef, theres a lot that can go wrong/things u need to be aware of

[drowsy palm]

find people and stop cry 😄

[jaunty lark]

it it was just mechanically hard its okay, but if its just a "haha, well played, but u do sh*t dmg" it lets you with a bad feeling. And some ppl to improve dps will have tpo just play a more boring dps

[drowsy palm]

i mean we have a big german community, alot of random people join here

[jaunty lark]

what can go wrong in a CS

come on

[brave pendant]

CS is like: Do you have bleed, do you know how to anticipate mechanics and avoid them, do you have someone that can parry the robots to make it easier on the rest of the group, can you cc as a group? Most importantly, do you know how to play your class and has invested enough into it to output the necessary dps. All that together is wrecked a huge part of the playerbase is what I see atm

[jaunty lark]

CS is barely a bit less dummy than BBR

[odd dagger]

easy to say when u know what u are doing

[jaunty lark]

so literally any BnS dungeon ever created, wow

[drowsy palm]

currently 139 people..

[odd dagger]

but its not so easy when u look at those people who do no dmg

[jaunty lark]

ye, if you are on the floor 24/7 u dont gonna clear it

thats the point

[brave pendant]

even if they aren't on the floor, they can't clear it

[jaunty lark]

but thats like the minimuum entryh lvl barrier for the whole game

[jaunty lark]

ye, but then its just dps issue, not bc the raids is hard

its just a huge chunk of hp

that they just dump it so ppl swipe

hence why it may be frustrating

[wooden rain]

i picked up kfm for the first time and cleared mushin at 600 ap lv45 (although i struggled because of junkhado blocking stat) and i'd say it's practically the hardest class

mushin was my first thing i went into after story

[sharp current]

you got the poh jump mechanic, alongside that you got 1 FMA, u got freezes, and u got the bots, theres more things u can do to make it a lot easier

whereas poh is just lever or hmb/sheathe, thats it, u can't KD her and stop it or anything, theres only 2 responses, and the tigers are just to be annoying, theres nothing u can do about them, killing them is trolling

and chef is just kill adds and KD

[odd dagger]

again "you"

[jaunty lark]

alright

lets clarify then

[odd dagger]

its not the case for all the people

[wooden rain]

point is hardest class, first time playing

[jaunty lark]

boss patterns != mechanics

[wooden rain]

i struggled quite a bit with the rotation

[sharp current]

yes, boss patterns != mechanics which is why i dont talk about poh and chef or winter manes regular attacks

[jaunty lark]

mechanics in this game, or at least it was for some time in live

mean that if u fail u wipe

[brave pendant]

game mechanics are fine. It's the dps check that is way too brutal

[drowsy palm]

its not

[odd dagger]

thats not really much of point , if u are good at learning stuff , u will do good regardless of class

[drowsy palm]

and char difficulty is personal pref

[odd dagger]

i can pick up any class and end up learning rotations after playing a bit

[drowsy palm]

good example

above here was one BM

that just learned junghado patterns

if everyone would do it like him

[jaunty lark]

i mean

in general kfm has be considered the msot mechanical intense class

🤔

like ever

[brave pendant]

When I'm doing 18k dps in CS, it gets entirely offset by someone doing 6k. Hard to carry people when most of the playerbase, meaning people that aren't BMs KFMs and FMs since they have the highest dmg, just can't perform well enough for playing a subpar class.

[jaunty lark]

ofc difficulty depend on the player, but there is also a global consensus

And ye, munshin tower here is super abused by parries

on live that didnt exist if i remember correctly

[sharp current]

thats a pretty nitpicky definition, so the enrage timer is ur only definition of a mechanic in the game

[jaunty lark]

so u get a huge gap

[sharp current]

but it goes the same with poh and winter mane, don't pull lever or hmb in poh, party wipes, and if u dont KD the FMA enough times, party wipes

[jaunty lark]

poh steam is a mech. the mini boss beforehand spirit bomb is a mech

the fisheses heat part is a mech

you can cheese them with iframes?

ye, kinda

that also stopped in future dungeons

[sharp current]

yea so those mechs exist in winter mane too, but alongside that u got bots and more freezes

[jaunty lark]

but i would not call "the boss does 3 spins and summons 3 robots from afar" a mech

[sharp current]

but its not isolated, its together which becomes problematic for people

[jaunty lark]

the only thing that can severly make u wipe is if u eat several robots explosion

only that

[sharp current]

but even that, u can just say, just dodge them, the bots do have area indicators and they are not full map attack

thats still a mechanic, something u need to do or theres consequences

[jaunty lark]

i guess each person considered different depending on skill

robots isnt the major issuje since you ned to f*ck it up really badly

so there is that

[sharp current]

everything is skill, attacking and moving is different from person to person, hence making it a skill, its something u can be good or bad at

[jaunty lark]

what i mean

for some ppl something that just hits u hard is super dangerous

for others if its not a wipe its not a big deal

guess depends on what parts of live the person also played, bc back then it was like that

you fail mech

you reset

[sharp current]

i never played bns before, neo is my first time playing it but i played a few mmos. Some of them had more of these fail mechs, some didn't, i dont think its something that is always needed, i dont think its what makes or break a raid or makes it fun or not, its a combination of a lot of things

to some ppl, these fail mech which results in many resets can be unfun and frustrating, but to some, they like the challenge and the ability or need to play perfectly

i think in these dungeons, a dps check can be that challenge the same way that a fail mech can fail the run, you have to play ur class perfectly, not just an isolated mechanic

[drowsy palm]

fail mech

in raids

in BnS

= wipe

fail dps check = wipe

fail iframes could result in = wipe

fail cc = wipe

[honest haven]

it's easier if you make the party yourself and control for their gear ig, It's rare I've ever found anyone doing below 8k dps, most ppl I run with are like 11k+

and you only need like 12k avg with bleed to clear

[drowsy palm]

you always forget there is also some1 tanking the boss

only cause some stuff doesnt hurt you

it doesnt mean the tank is safe

example missing ccs

[jaunty lark]

ye, there are also mechs like that, you need free the tank or the tank dies, if tank dies whole part likely die

tho right now i dont know if there is any purple dungeon that has that

(dunno about bloodshade)

[honest haven]

there are some really fun raids in bns imo, the dynamic gameplay makes it so much more satisfying to pull off. Right now this is still like vanilla bns so we're a bit early for proper raids

vietnam flashback to 24 man black tower when everyone must run in a synced rotation

[wooden rain]

that 3rd double boss is not what i consider a fun time

[winged reef]

That’s what will probably make me quit eventually. Once I get bored of upgrading just to see bigger numbers

[odd dagger]

lb tab , we gaming

[jaunty lark]

How the heck, bruh

Did you tested the dps loss of block cyclone btw?

[odd dagger]

ya i was losing dps on uninvested purple hs