Blade Master

[minor crypt]

so i gave up on DT, it can go *** itself

ping cripples DT dmg in like half

[dense oyster]

per black dragon

[minor crypt]

worse when u use lightning saber or so it was for me

[urban bridge]

you are losing about 3 DTs then

low ping people get 15 DTs per black dragon

[dense oyster]

okay

its not THAT bad then

[urban bridge]

its playable

as long as you are able to reset your tab cd

but sounds like it might be a little tight on time

[minor crypt]

just youtube a low* ping DT video and compare urs, u'll see the amount of hits u r losing

[dense oyster]

okay, thank you

[grizzled gale]

I was barely getting enough DTs on time to use tab again with a virtuous mystic badge on 90ms, while others easily have extra time on a moonwater badge

It just feels ass wouldn't recommend

[toxic portal]

on a good day I just barely get 15 in on 67-70 ping. but it fluctuates just outside of the necessary all the time and I hit 3 koldraks into another dt and then tab again

If I wasn't getting 15 half the time or really close otherwise, I prob wouldnt play dt

I prob shouldnt be playing dt anyways without mystic badge at my ping

[spiral sky]

100ms+, I would recommend Tab builds>Lightning>Fire if u are locking to achieve the smallest possible decrement because ping. It doesn't mean that one build is weaker then other, its just a suggestion if you don't want to feel behind because off the lag.

[long tulip]

if i wasnt already way too deep into fire books i would

[rain nimbus]

go hs

[spiral sky]

DARKKK

[rain nimbus]

ima get off hs

[spiral sky]

=/

[rain nimbus]

other players make it annoying

pet taunt can go f itself

stuff like that

and cc the boss when i want to block cyclone their attack

or shoulder immunity > cyclone

like f off

[spiral sky]

o feel u my brother

pierce is the same

[rain nimbus]

2 cost pierce is the same?

[spiral sky]

yeah

cat taunt fucks

jsut want to vortex

to get bd buffs

[rain nimbus]

oh..

so puncture doesnt have that issue

[spiral sky]

aoe yellows is fine

but normal attacks

i mean

next update we wont see sum

[rain nimbus]

how come

[spiral sky]

they will be gatekeeping because dps

rofl

[burnt helm]

900+ap daily 10+kill achiev only

[spiral sky]

but still dark

pierce isn't weak

[rain nimbus]

i see that

i was watching hexy

[spiral sky]

i missing so much books

and doing well

[burnt helm]

same, honestly jsut needs some decent crit amount and you'll be good

[winged reef]

Pigsty is constant ccs

No chance of blocking lol

[rain nimbus]

ill go puncture

when purple book selector comes

and then ill be g

[burnt helm]

[winged reef]

For sure that will be the chosen build

Until you get outdps’d by meme flash step build and decide to change again

[lyric harness]

post puncture :)

[rain nimbus]

might as well go that now to prevent that

[winged reef]

Flash Step is top dps skill for lightning in Live, you never know

[rain nimbus]

ill stick with hs and then go puncture when selector comes

kr got one with wl so 🤷‍♀️

[winged reef]

Then finally I can get my purple sun stroke

[spiral sky]

my purple cyclone

fuuuu

just logged my alt

100 blessing wasted

why i didnt saw yesterday =/

[winged reef]

Rip

It’d be nice if you could turn off blessing consumption

And turn it back on when you wanted

[rain nimbus]

ty

[noble geyser]

Whats that outfit coming out in the patch

like a picture not the name

[winged reef]

Sounds like summoner outfit tbh

[rain nimbus]

this?

must buy tbh

[toxic portal]

Are they gonna remove black bird for that?

[rain nimbus]

black bird is gone

[winged reef]

Looks alright

But everyone and their mother will be using this

[rain nimbus]

no weapon?

[toxic portal]

That's how every new event outfit is in games? Everyone uses it until half a year later when people have new/different options

[urban bridge]

here are the weapons for that set

[winged reef]

I mean if they had multiple choices right away

New outfits is free money for them, why are they being so stingy

[rain nimbus]

OOO

kfms looks cool

and the hammer

[winged reef]

Finally I can be a kawaii lightning player

Anyone knows the cost as well?

[rain nimbus]

200 usd

[spiral sky]

danm tabstacking is soo gooodd

[winged reef]

How much damage per tab

[spiral sky]

1k investment char

top dpsing on pleb pt

[rain nimbus]

those are rookie numbers ngl

my tab lmb hit so much harder

[spiral sky]

lvl 46

[rain nimbus]

oof

this is what i got right now

i should try getting more cd

[noble geyser]

Im having trouble with my macro

What delay should I have on it>

[rain nimbus]

what build are you even playing

[spiral sky]

for what and ping?

[noble geyser]

Hybrid DT + ES

Ping - 14

[sage tulip]

what kind

[noble geyser]

Just a normal R+T

[sage tulip]

no

whats the issue

[noble geyser]

Cant weave in ES

Just Spams DT

[sage tulip]

your delay is too high

[noble geyser]

Was doing a couple ms

[spiral sky]

dark

u already done ur dalies?

[noble geyser]

Thanks

[rain nimbus]

yeah?

[spiral sky]

still farming something?

i want to run a dg with you

want to see in action ur build

[rain nimbus]

not atm

the build is meh

yellows > good build

no yellows > bad build

summoner taunt > screw that class

[spiral sky]

taunt back

rofl

😄

[rain nimbus]

no thanks

low key kinda waste for 350usd haha

[spiral sky]

everyone warned u

[rain nimbus]

its ok

wonder if i should try selling it

[brave pendant]

slasher prices went back up to 32k

[rain nimbus]

i see

thats why im wondering

[brave pendant]

chances are it won't sell above 20k though

there were several that sat at 18k for at least a day

[spiral sky]

i saw 5 for 17k yesterday

[brave pendant]

yeah actually I saw 4 around 17-18k

[urban bridge]

change the clicks to R and T

[brave pendant]

maybe cyclone TAB slasher would perform better when there's nothing to block

[rain nimbus]

i dont have tab

[brave pendant]

but it'd also do less dmg compared to pierce puncture and they are playing the same build

[spiral sky]

he stills using that trash tds tab

[rain nimbus]

i went meme build

[brave pendant]

gotta try lunar slash

[rain nimbus]

ik what i need

[brave pendant]

maybe R TAB T comes out faster

I'd say tab stacking is more of a meme build. It can hit decently high dps but can it be BSH viable

[spiral sky]

only if the purple comes too

[rain nimbus]

purple is crit

purple lmb is crit

[urban bridge]

if the purple comes then sure

since with purple your dmg goes up too along with extra crit

and you can stack them so

[rain nimbus]

all that crit you may as well add puncture at that point

[spiral sky]

well is alt build

why i would waste gens

[brave pendant]

It could be BIS for high ping

[rain nimbus]

kr kfm i was watching was hitting 100ks

[distant lily]

WTS purple DT NA

[spiral sky]

still it can be added rmb on high pings

[rain nimbus]

im going to do it one more time

[urban bridge]

how much lol

[rain nimbus]

and spend whole check on neo

thats it for the month

[brave pendant]

adding RMB to lmb tab slows the whole combo down dramatically

[rain nimbus]

i noticed that too

but everyone says adding rmb is bis

[brave pendant]

instead of animation cancelling into pierce, now it requires either lmb or tab to crit to max boost pierce

[spiral sky]

im playing with 130ms

and still

its way better adding rmb

[brave pendant]

yeah overall damage, it's still better with rmb

I tested lmb tab hitting 18k on dummy, and lmb tab rmb hitting 28k. the pierce is still quite important even if it slows down the rotation

[rain nimbus]

what about puncture 👀

[spiral sky]

maybe in the future

if tab got a badge

could work

[rain nimbus]

you would want puncture badge

wym

[urban bridge]

They wouldn't give lunar:combo a badge

[brave pendant]

wish people sold more purp punctures

go open some more books

[distant lily]

Only other offers at 25k, although I'm trying to get 36k

[spiral sky]

theres SS/TDS badges

why not the combo

[brave pendant]

next patch better drop more purples and lower puncture prices

[rain nimbus]

How many purple punctures do you have

[spiral sky]

they sold a bunch, but whales got it

[brave pendant]

0

[rain nimbus]

How much can you spend

[brave pendant]

can't afford 41k punctures

maybe if it drops down to 20-30k

or better if BSH floods the market with purples

price of everything goes down. we can then finally play our builds

[rain nimbus]

Apparently they still drop green books even though it doesn't say it's supposed to

[urban bridge]

BSH won't flood the market with purples

[spiral sky]

i would chose cyclone over puncture

to get first

[urban bridge]

purple drop rates aren't high in BSH either and blue drop rate is around the same as poh

[brave pendant]

purp cyclone sells at ~30k. puncture ~40k atm

[spiral sky]

yeah but i saw more punc than cyclones

[brave pendant]

seeing more blues would be a good enough change if that happens

[urban bridge]

until they release something like the 10 gold box or inject purple selectors into bp

there won't be a big shift in purple book prices

I guess one thing they could do is increase blue book drop rate to the point where blue books would go for like 100 dg

which is roughly the price for them in KR

100-150

which would give more incentive to attempt purple transmutes

[brave pendant]

make gearing alts easier if that happens

who can farm more BSH

[rain nimbus]

Will bsh have a good amount of yellow

And cs?

[spiral sky]

cs is like baylee

[rain nimbus]

Lots of yellows ??

[spiral sky]

is a frost saijifi

[rain nimbus]

What's the mech

[winged reef]

What is yellows

[rain nimbus]

Indicators

[urban bridge]

yes lots of yellows in cs

and lots of red in bsh

if you go fight the sajifi field boss in misty woods

thats the weaker version of the cold storage boss

[grizzled gale]

NA prices are nuts what is this

[brave pendant]

Come gamble on na. Make bank

[rain nimbus]

trump

[winged reef]

They used to be in south Misty Woods as well. Sadly everything is mostly gone from Neo compared to Live

[rain nimbus]

you talking about the terrors?

[winged reef]

Yea

They had crazy attack speed

and pulled you

[rain nimbus]

is that actually the cs boss?

[winged reef]

basically

[rain nimbus]

oh yeah my server couldnt kill them

i didnt join mushin or poharan server at launch (NA) and was left out

[winged reef]

I used to tank Blackwyrm for my server

Good times

[worn jewel]

What is a good starting point for timing for lmb tab rmb? I can't find a sweet spot where it's steady and doesn't desync. Overall it just feels much slower than it should.

[urban bridge]

its so doomed could have fit in 1 more pvp match for world boss but all the plat players left early

[winged reef]

Grinding that 6v6

I've played like 5 games total

[urban bridge]

I mainly do it for the material + dailies lol

[winged reef]

I just forget about it most of the time

and sometimes I'm not home

[winged reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt7z9dnPdao These guys

[rain nimbus]

lol

[urban bridge]

I know this guy, hes just memeing

[rain nimbus]

ik i checked

[urban bridge]

ah yeah those guys, back when we needed to grind soulstones for gearing

[worn jewel]

The Terror twins were OP AF. My clan used to farm them and you basically couldn't do them without using tricks to keep them from doing their huge red AoE that nearly one shot people

They made Blackwyrm look like a little baby

[winged reef]

For Blackwyrm you only had to reset his pattern by going long range after like 7-8 attacks, just needed a proper tank

Provided no scumbag summoner to steal aggro

[urban bridge]

barely managed top 5 today

its rough out here without purple book stacking

[sterile jungle]

me and my green DT books

[gleaming pewter]

accepting purple puncture donations for stacking purposes

[sterile jungle]

let me get one first

[rain nimbus]

what builds are all of those top 10s using? anyone know

[sterile jungle]

hybrid hybrid punc punc hybrid hybrid hybrid pierce hybrid punc

[rain nimbus]

i figured there'd be more pierces

i guess its BD books vs more punctures ?

[north burrow]

pierce is too aids for 99% of players

[spiral sky]

that how im playing right now, need more crit and cyclone to play properly anicancel.

[north burrow]

easier to just play puncture

puncture better for WB too regardless

[rain nimbus]

how far would blue pierce take you

[north burrow]

idk

[rain nimbus]

or purp without bd

[north burrow]

purp pierce without bd is just worse puncture

[rain nimbus]

but so much cheaper than puncture

[north burrow]

sure but why would you not engage with the skill's main gimmick lol

[worn jewel]

What are your timings? Mine starts out ok, with 6+ hits per second, and then gradually desyncs and falls apart.

[spiral sky]

rofl

whats how works the best here

with my ms

if i do properly will stucks on animations, need more crits and cyclone

[worn jewel]

If I do that skills just interupt each other

Maybe I have bad juju

[spiral sky]

how much ms u got

[worn jewel]

35-40

[spiral sky]

try to find a good lmb+tab anicancel

after u got like 2ratio/s

try to incert rmb

there

[queen marsh]

Try to put 170 ms between each skill

[lyric harness]

anyone tryna buy a purple sunstroke on NA for 18k? :)

[queen marsh]

That should be a decent baseline to work off of

The reduce it as needed

[urban bridge]

Think there was someone looking to buy purple sunstroke like 4 hours ago

was asking for it in wc

don't remember his name though

[lyric harness]

mmm ok

[north burrow]

purple ss is only 18k on na? lol

[lyric harness]

ya

well meowster special

[north burrow]

na market is confusing

[lyric harness]

anyways guys buy my purple sunstroke on NA for 18k :))0

[spiral sky]

ok guys

i got a better macro

ratio is f**cked up

[rain nimbus]

someone in NA

[spiral sky]

maybe wont maintain cyclone buff later

but does damag

[lyric harness]

that's my boy

[north burrow]

how do you have 60 less lmbs

lmao

[spiral sky]

try 130ms

[tidal frigate]

Is Searing Slash mandatory or can I use Stone Slash?

[brave pendant]

Pierce is amazing if the fight last like 20-30 seconds. Past that puncture wins by consistency

[spiral sky]

if i can maintain cyclone buff i dont care abour ratio

[north burrow]

pierce wins if you can consistently alternate vortex + BD skill

[spiral sky]

not gonna lie

[north burrow]

you should for focus purposes

every missed lmb is -1 focus

[spiral sky]

nah, purple searing falcon is coming too

[urban bridge]

I wouldn't say its on the level of mandatory but it helps quite a bit

[north burrow]

only makes a dif at purple

bc it extends BD by 3s then

[tidal frigate]

I want to run Stone slash cause it looked cooler

[urban bridge]

You can

at legendary

[north burrow]

idk, 60 lost lmbs across 1 min is enough focus for 30 pierces

and considering you still lose focus if a slow pierce gets interrupted

probably shouldn't settle with losing so much of it

gets even worse if you don't crit tab either

[rain nimbus]

whats it do

[north burrow]

6 focus regen across 3s

[urban bridge]

6 focus regen for 3 seconds

[gleaming pewter]

what other purple books are coming next patch?

[urban bridge]

we don't know if its coming next patch

[north burrow]

they came out with warlock patch on KR

[gleaming pewter]

ah

purple lunar slash also w warlock patch in kr?

[north burrow]

yeah

but we seem to be ahead of where KR were with balances patches with current content so we have no idea what's gonna happen lol

[urban bridge]

but the ones that are lined up that has yet to make it to NA/EU is purple tab:combo, purple soaring falcon, purple raid:movespeed increase

[gleaming pewter]

got it thanks

what does purple lunar tab do?

[lyric harness]

speaking of purple, buy my purple sunstroke for 18k :)))))

[north burrow]

5% crit for 1s

[urban bridge]

and more ap scaling

[gleaming pewter]

wtf thats op asf

[north burrow]

meteor strike rework also comes with that patch

[gleaming pewter]

i mean nvm its garbage sell on market for cheap nobody needs

[north burrow]

for the DT players

[urban bridge]

its going to be expensive when it makes it over to NA/EU

I see it being like 50k on NA lol

[gleaming pewter]

nah its trash prolly will insta sell for 3k

[rain nimbus]

damn purple z purple tab

[north burrow]

makes up for no legendary pierce/puncture

[urban bridge]

lmao I forgot you are puncture build

ted trying to buy his book cheap

[gleaming pewter]

idk what ur talkin about

[rain nimbus]

it will eventually be cheap

i mean youre not stacking them

no?

[north burrow]

I mean every pierce/puncture/slasher (lmao) player will want it

It's going to be expensive

Sun stroke isn't cheap even though you only want 1 of that

[worn jewel]

Yeah, I wish the 1 ms trick would work for me.
Over a 1 minute test I get:
Pierce 60 pierce (not counting BD or badge)
91 tab
86 lmb

[lyric harness]

wow crazy stuff guys, now buy my sunstroke on NA for 18k :)

[urban bridge]

I mean we don't stack sun stroke right now and sun stroke is like 15-25k still

[north burrow]

Maybe if you post it 5 more times one of the 4 people typing here will buy it

[urban bridge]

no reason for purple tab:combo to be cheap either

[lyric harness]

that's the thing I gotta refresh it

[brave pendant]

yeah ping messes up R Tab T stuff

better sell that book before it possibly gets devalued with next patch

[north burrow]

Play manually so you can adapt to ping spikes

[brave pendant]

Here's the thing. cyclone crits are supposed to max boost pierce, so I can hit a few cyclone crits and somehow pierce still comes out unboosted

[worn jewel]

Hopefully I will eventually find a timing that stops it from desyncing for a few seconds every 10 or so. When it's not desynced it is 2+ rotations per second. But while desynced it can drop to 1 and reduces my potential number of hits by about 25%

[spiral sky]

later when we get purple books

and more crit

will be better

[rain nimbus]

Isn't the minimum for lmb tab rmb like purple lmb and 3k crit

I always hear mixed answers

Purple lmb purple tab the dream

[grizzled gale]

This sht gave me cancer

Works fine with tab but for some reason you gotta wait a bit after using cyclone to get the boost on rmb

[rain nimbus]

Cyclone lmb?

[grizzled gale]

Yeah

[rain nimbus]

That's why it's r tab t ?

And not tab r t

[grizzled gale]

Yeah but its not always gonna be frame perfect

[rain nimbus]

I had to add like 170ms delay just for rmb to activate ever

Max boost or not

[grizzled gale]

I was experimenting for hours yesterday and gave up minmaxing it tbh

[brave pendant]

I've also tried for several hours. either it's too slow or it desyncs and you are left autoing for a couple of hits

[lyric harness]

alright guys you got me I'll sell my purple sunstroke for 17k on na :))))

[brave pendant]

hey puncture back at 45k

[brave pendant]

did that purp puncture just sell at 45k?

[lean sundial]

Damn we've got patch notes ! And they're so exhaustive !!!

[little moat]

WHERE

Oh that discord msg

That ain't no patch notes

[lean sundial]

[long tulip]

i think meow bought it lol

hes been looking for that relist for days

[little moat]

What do you think of Maria's payed performance saying blue pierce is better then hybrid

[brave pendant]

He did. He's gonna be viridian's #2 BM pretty solidly now

[long tulip]

theres another one up now this time for 50k

[little moat]

Time to pull a purple puncture

[long tulip]

the best thing ive pulled was that cyclone last week

everything else has been 2k books

[little moat]

that's still a win

1250-1500 for the books

Everything over 2k is a win

[lean sundial]

you need the gold on NA bdx

[long tulip]

time to save money by not windstriding

[brave pendant]

I cry a little when I go into draw stance and press X 1, but x doesn't happen and I don't get my black dragon. ping pains

[long tulip]

gonna walk from ogong to poh yuppers

[little moat]

Anybody got a picture of the Calico Cat custome?

[urban bridge]

I cry every time I press 2nd C then Z but 2nd C doesn't go off and Z goes off on its own

[brave pendant]

That too. I even put 10 points into lightning rod. 2nd rod didn't go off. cry

[lean sundial]

I've seen Calico cat weapons, not outfits

[little moat]

Same price as blackbird aka a big scam.

[lean sundial]

Gotta cater to the lyns

[urban bridge]

unless you need gold

then its best dg > gold ratio xD

[lean sundial]

And so was black bird

[little moat]

[urban bridge]

I just want the ice weapons

[lean sundial]

Gib seraph

[little moat]

I'll take my Wufu Weapon

Best wep skin in the game

[urban bridge]

https://youtu.be/jLSjkq2hdnw

I would actually swipe for this weapon skin

[lean sundial]

When dreadtide and junghado beat it

[little moat]

Junghado's wep is ugleh lmao

[lean sundial]

Smooth camera

[lean sundial]

How much crit rate would be the bare minimum for a basic stance build...? Might just start transitioning little by little...... You know.... Maybe acquiring a purple puncture & cyclone isn't that much more difficult than virt mystic dt badge + purple ss

[wooden rain]

I wouldn't overthink it rn, see if the update changes anything

[little moat]

Tab+Lb requires 0

Pierce requires 3k+cyclone OR you just pierce after Block-Cyclone.

Puncture requires purple book.

Piercing after block is weaker then Hybrid tho.

[storm ruin]

i guess i need to improve my accuracy ?

[urban bridge]

crit dmg too

[lean sundial]

Crit all the time

Is enough

[lean sundial]

So purple puncture + purple cyclone
At least 3k crit rate

[little moat]

50k dg 💀

[lean sundial]

Sounds about right

Just like purple ss + virt mystic dt

[little moat]

That's 30k

10k badge, 18-20k ss

[lean sundial]

Badge keeps going up in price

Haven't seen ss listed for a long time

Not like I could afford any of those

[little moat]

Just spam wtb the badge

Winderlands constantly have ppl selling/buying them for 9-10k

[brave pendant]

badge is like 3.3% chance for a virt.

[lean sundial]

Then I also need ss virt badge

But those are like 3k

"mere change"

[brave pendant]

yeah all that just to make DT not feel miserable with not low ping

[little moat]

Cheaper then a blue DT

What the issue is

[long tulip]

i still needed purple ss for dt to feel not miserable

💀

[lean sundial]

I have 10 ping, consistently hitting 12/12

[little moat]

Play hybrid

[brave pendant]

play DT with that ping

open some boxes, buy your DT stuff

[long tulip]

dt count halves if i use saber

[lean sundial]

Dt is 14+1

[lean sundial]

From 14 to 12?

[brave pendant]

DT or hybrid. both possible with that ping

[little moat]

9-9 hybrid beats DT unless 5 purple DT's

[long tulip]

its not even 9 man

Try like

6

[lean sundial]

Oh I can basically play any build with my ping, my funds on the other hand

[long tulip]

[lean sundial]

[little moat]

Oh wasn't talking to you sorry haha

U should play lb tab with ur ping 😂

[long tulip]

Just holding dt does more dmg for me

[brave pendant]

yeah if you can lmb tab rmb cancel very fast that's good too, but easier to play DT or hybrid honestly

since pierce puncture depends on crit, not on low ping

[long tulip]

I wanna just brain off dps

[lean sundial]

Then pure fire

[little moat]

lb tab is as braindead as you can get!

No focus, No drawstance

Just macro

[lean sundial]

No focus, no drawstance, no dps

[little moat]

I got outdpst by one yday

[long tulip]

with the purp ss i can reset tab before bd ends but only if i hold dt

[little moat]

(he had 834 AP)

[long tulip]

if i try to throw sabers in there its joever

[teal surge]

what build is this ? is it classic fire dragontongue or another variation

[sage tulip]

its hybrid

[lean sundial]

That's hybrid

[sage tulip]

es + dt anicancel

[lean sundial]

Dragontongue + Electric Saber

[long tulip]

maybe its time for the ultimate meme

sun stroke stacking

[lean sundial]

Cheaper than dt stacking

[sage tulip]

i tried, its too rng

if your ss doesnt crit youre cooked

[teal surge]

oh how good is that actually

like compared to pure fire or pure light

[lean sundial]

Good if low ping

[brave pendant]

very good if low ping. otherwise sell those books

[urban bridge]

for cheap pls ty

[teal surge]

define low ping

[lean sundial]

Compared to pure fire : better until you have 5 purple DTs (1+24 GMs)
Compared to light : unless you're on CN don't play light

[brave pendant]

<50?

[teal surge]

oh

[little moat]

Low: 0-50
Avg: 50-80
High: 80+

[teal surge]

i kinda regret selling my electric saber now

[urban bridge]

hybrid is still better than pure fire until 5 purple DTs at 75 ping

although think thats the limit

any higher its a toss up

[lean sundial]

Blue ES is like 1k on EU

[little moat]

i bought an ES for 4k ages ago 💀

[sage tulip]

same

[lean sundial]

Bought mine for 1.6

Peasants

[urban bridge]

wha why is blue ES so expensive in EU

its a measly 400 over in NA

[lean sundial]

Bought blue dt like 3 weeks ago for 3.7, still at over 3k

[sage tulip]

[brave pendant]

too many people with high ping on NA

[lean sundial]

Idk people dumb, sold one for 950 yesterday

[brave pendant]

unplayable, dump

[long tulip]

i got blue dt from battlepass

[odd dagger]

allmost every bm in eu is hybrid

[sage tulip]

we on eu still need blues, meanwhile na is pumping purples

[teal surge]

so what books are essential for this build to work ?

[lean sundial]

Opened blue attendance box on my des, blue grab defense increase

[little moat]

Smart ppl in EU

[sage tulip]

[odd dagger]

unless u are end game

then they ar epunctures

[little moat]

Pierce*

[lean sundial]

Dt/electric saber, sunstroke, fissure, vortex wave

Then get at least moonwater mystic dt badge

[urban bridge]

idk about pumping xD

[lean sundial]

Sunstroke soul bdge

[odd dagger]

only 3 copers play that

[teal surge]

is it worth buying electric saber now or do i just wait next patch ?

[drowsy palm]

am i correct

and good morning

[little moat]

Np

[lean sundial]

Saving before maria gets another sh.tstorm because people are dumb

[drowsy palm]

oh damn

i forgot

never post sheets again

ahh

sorry

[lean sundial]

[gilded thistle]

[odd dagger]

i think u calc legend dg for 6 man instead of 4 man?

[little moat]

Maria doodoo

[lean sundial]

Yep legendary dungeons are 4 men

[little moat]

Can't math

[lean sundial]

Not 6

[little moat]

4 != 6

smh my head

This guy

[drowsy palm]

only lab and refuge 4 man no?

[urban bridge]

yeah lab and refuge is 4 man instead of 6

so need to recalculate those but other than that looks good

[little moat]

Couldn't even tell you cuz I saw no sheet

hue

[drowsy palm]

now u can see

maybe i should start sign

lol

copy pasta legends

[lean sundial]

I was like "24k for lab? Wasn't it 36k?"

Yeah sounds about right now

[drowsy palm]

its 36667

[gilded thistle]

Hmm they could just crop it and present it as theirs

Do it as an overlay

[drowsy palm]

TRUE

never did it

[gilded thistle]

Trust

[drowsy palm]

how

[lean sundial]

24k and 36k sound about right

[gilded thistle]

Uhh I think it was page layout tab, page setup group and select background

Do a fancy name signature and add it as a background

[little moat]

Wait did I miss it again?

[lean sundial]

Yup

Too bad

Have to be swift

[little moat]

I am more perry then swift

[lean sundial]

You like being in outer space

Got it

[little moat]

For a full 38 seconds.

[hard iris]

Bought ytd one for 2950

[little moat]

I bought my 4 blue dt's for 2.6k lol

Then sold 3 of em for 4.5k

Then rebought them for 3.7k

[lean sundial]

4 blue dts for 8k total, not bad

[desert igloo]

what's that skill website where we can see how much a skill scales with AP and such?

[lean sundial]

Not counting in the fee

Yast

[desert igloo]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="SkillView"&p="NEOEU190325" found it thanks. 👍

[lean sundial]

Counting in the 8% fee on those 4500 sales, that's 4 blue dts for 9k dg, not bad either

[little moat]

I am sitting on 5k dg atm and waiting, I ain't buying no 4k DT's xd

(and deff aint gonna gamble more purples )

Chifusa

Are u running pierce

[gilded thistle]

Yeah

Too poor to go puncture

[lean sundial]

Just run more bbr for blues

[little moat]

I need primers

so i can try pierce build

2k cr aint gonna do no justice

[merry prairie]

There's no nerfs to dungeons tomorrow?

Who wanna bet game dies in 1 day after patch

[desert igloo]

Let's say as a BM we are running with a party without any bleed. Would there be a possibility where running scarlet breeze does more damage then LMB cyclone?
I am counting the negation of hp regen here that the bleed does

[little moat]

No, because the bleed doesn't tic if you refresh it 🙂

[desert igloo]

But it does stop hp regen?

[little moat]

No idea, do bosses even regen health? xD

[desert igloo]

oh yeah i've seen it with my own eyes

It's alot too

Bleed is supposed to stop hp regen by 20% per stack. 5 stack bleed should stop hp regen of the boss entirely.
I also wonder if those numbers are accurate.

[wooden rain]

No cyclone is a big nerf to your own damage

I don't think it's worth considering when we can't change skills on the fly

[wooden rain]

I'm gonna bet few weeks for most people to lose hope, and then naryu lab to finish the job

[brave pendant]

ask the KFM in your group to guiding fist every 6 seconds

[desert igloo]

I can imagine a BM running with a static group of friends and if the others don't bring any bleed, it might be good. Is what I was thinking

[wooden rain]

You can't play basic stance well without cyclone

[merry prairie]

95% of population won't even be able to do the new patch if there's no nerf rip

[little moat]

Just bring a summoner, Without a summoner you are doomed anyway

[wooden rain]

Only tab to proc rmb is very unreliable

[brave pendant]

it's already unreliable enough with cyclone tab crits

[wooden rain]

That's what the high cr requirement and purple cyclone is for

[desert igloo]

I get that Stormpooper. let's say a boss has 11k hp regen a second. Then running cyclone instead of scarlet breeze will have to do 11k dps more to outperfom scarlet breeze in a situation where only the BM brings the bleed debuff

[little moat]

Just bring a summoner, Without a summoner you are doomed anyway

[wooden rain]

Wtf kind of boss has 11k regen

[desert igloo]

according to tenten

he mentions it in his last video. dunno which boss.

[brave pendant]

just bring in a class that can apply bleed without suffering too much dps loss

[urban bridge]

Are we really watching tenten for information..

[desert igloo]

Look, all i'm asking here as a casual player is the effectiveness of bleed , that's all

[fickle loom]

[wooden rain]

Bm is already tank, hmb, and dps because neo
Bleed is just not a bm thing

[gilded thistle]

What's tenten

[little moat]

Right...

[gilded thistle]

[little moat]

Do exactly opposite of what he says

And you'll be golden.

[desert igloo]

Do alot of classes have bleed?

[desert igloo]

gotchja 😄

[brave pendant]

I don't know what summoner skills have bleed. KFM can rmb for 2 focus and a bleed every 6 seconds

[desert igloo]

ok ok. Sin might have bleed too or poison/

[gilded thistle]

I think the one video I watched was Shaddy bm skill guide and after that chill around ill and shaddy streams

[wooden rain]

Sins have bleed iirc, fm can have bleed with purple

[lean sundial]

I think BDs have bleed too?

Not entirely sure

[desert igloo]

fm and bd too? ok that's alot of classes with bleed

[wooden rain]

I think they do but I don't remember

[little moat]

Fm doesnt have bleed, they got blaze

[wooden rain]

Purple dual dragon is insta 5 stacks

[little moat]

Lmao okay

So they dont have bleed

[brave pendant]

I don't think BD have a easy way to access bleed

[little moat]

[lean sundial]

Some bd once said in a poh group "bleed is my bd duty"

Then again they ended up with 6k dps

Probably a 1010 follower

[little moat]

BD and Earth destro do blees on pmuch any ability

Cat auto bleeds from summ

Fm's blaze counts as hp regen debuff (like bleed)

[lean sundial]

[little moat]

Bm also has I think C in drawstance, I dont remember

[urban bridge]

I mean bm has bleed too

boot has bleed right

pretty sure

[lean sundial]

Boot kd?

[little moat]

Every boot has 1 bleed stack yes

[lean sundial]

[urban bridge]

yeah lol

[little moat]

Tldr, Dont worry about bleed

Specially if it takes 4-5k dps of yourself lol

[desert igloo]

@little moat that's alot of classes with bleed abilities. Sounds like bleed isn't worth it for bm. Thanks for going in depth 👍

[wooden rain]

Who uses boot for bleed lmao

I like how the one non-sword skill makes the enemy bleed

[desert igloo]

maybe if we are aware the 5 stack bleed is about to run out we can reset the timer with boot

[little moat]

Bring a summoner.

Their cat automatically put bleed without any button press, make boss cannot regen HP. They also have Deep Wound, which half HP recovery efficient skill and they got perma defense reduction if they have C and Smothering Paw (pin)

no summoner = no win.

[wooden rain]

Most summoners i know have 200 ping for some reason

[lean sundial]

Define ping
From client to server or user to client

[urban bridge]

or the ol HS only build chads with Boot:Combo instead of the kd that gets their HS max boosted xD

[little moat]

Like srsly, Summoners are being slept on.
In BSH and Lab they'll be so ultra needed

Problem si most summoners are absolute donkeys

But so are Fm's and Bds

So that's w/e

[wooden rain]

Well it's a rat-only class so

[urban bridge]

[wooden rain]

Here we go

[urban bridge]

time for purple blade strike

[wooden rain]

Another 2h delay into bs

[brave pendant]

lets go puncture

[little moat]

Blade strike hype

[wooden rain]

Flash step

[urban bridge]

well I mean.. it wasn't blade strike but it was close lmao

[brave pendant]

speaking of blade strike, I don't know how sins are attacking me and even stunning me while I'm parrying.

[little moat]

Dang, The worse blade strike

[wooden rain]

Wow actually best block

[little moat]

Blade strike is the best block

[brave pendant]

It's like 500 dg more than blade strike I guess

[wooden rain]

You can use it

[urban bridge]

sins have a block/parry bypass skill

just like KFMs

I would have to sell it, I already have one lol

[little moat]

Buy blade strike instead

[fickle loom]

got 2x Block: Parry purples for a total cost of 4K yesterday

felt blessed

[urban bridge]

but there is none up on market and its NA so

overpriced book here I go

[brave pendant]

10k?

[urban bridge]

blade strike is 1.9, war cry is 2.2

its actually probably around 3-4 but

[little moat]

Bs 1.9? Dang that's cheaper then EU lmao

I sold mine for 1.2k but yday they were 3k+ hahaha

[little moat]

Ur sleeping on Blade strike

Get that cdr on 4

[brave pendant]

no war cry enjoyers? I main tank bosses in skyhaven and come out with full hp

[wooden rain]

Blade strike should give 1 sec iframe and cd reset on successful parry, I'd use it

[fickle loom]

I don’t use 4 so we’re chilling

[little moat]

But what about that juicy air combo finisher

[little moat]

Cd reset would be lit

[urban bridge]

Think it used to do cd reset

[little moat]

Funnily enough blade strike did more dmg then my blue Blade Call yday on Baylee

[urban bridge]

then they nerfed it

so doubt it would get it back again

[wooden rain]

Why tf would it need a nerf

[little moat]

true, why would u want 3 viable block options right

[urban bridge]

not sure but I remember early bns neo kr days it did cd reset on successful parry

pretty sure it doesn't do it anymore so

[wooden rain]

Meanwhile kfm with 5 different effects on counter/iframe

[little moat]

We got plenty of effects aswell

[wooden rain]

Not on the same scale

And counter can be used while moving

[little moat]

Look if you iframe with E you get a maximum boosted E

[wooden rain]

But actually how often do people get use out of that maximum boost, even if they're playing basic stance

[lean sundial]

Fund my summ and I'll carry you

[little moat]

I have my summ alrrdy tyvm.

[urban bridge]

I absolutely hate it when I press E

it sometimes does like a double E

[lean sundial]

E putting both Q & E on cooldown is so dumb

[drowsy palm]

now i got it

maybe

lol

so dumb to read

[lean sundial]

Thousands separator?

Nice

[urban bridge]

it looks nice

[little moat]

Why not "None" instead 9999999

[lean sundial]

'cause it's a formula

For the dps

[burnt helm]

does kaari lord drop anything from cs?

[lean sundial]

Likely a green card

[wooden rain]

37k for naryu lab

[urban bridge]

drops a green card yeah

[burnt helm]

unfortunate

[wooden rain]

In 1 month from bsh

Top kek

[burnt helm]

oculd be a way for ppl with low dps to gear up slowly at least

[urban bridge]

I mean you can just craft

the purple bottom accessories

same way you can craft the siren accessories right now

[little moat]

Nobody said u have to do it day one lol

[lean sundial]

I dismantled my #1 blueprints yesterday from faction for jewels

[burnt helm]

is it a new mat

[lean sundial]

You have to do it day one

[burnt helm]

oh my radiant ring isnt level 3 f

[little moat]

I started playing on Poh release and here I am

[drowsy palm]

but dont forget

[urban bridge]

it is a moonwater accessory design# 2

[drowsy palm]

bosses got heal

so without bleeding

[urban bridge]

instead of design 1

[lean sundial]

It may very well ask for 3 max, not just 3

[jaunty lark]

@desert igloo does it have craft? Hmm

[drowsy palm]

you need like 3k more dps

per person

[little moat]

Aint no way groups run without heal

[jaunty lark]

Wait. The heck is that nick

Disgusting

[little moat]

Soooo many bleed classes

[lean sundial]

F7 is a thing

[urban bridge]

You can also craft BSH soul shields

takes faction tokens

[little moat]

well yes and?

[drowsy palm]

you can also skip BSH soulshields like me

just go han on lab

[jaunty lark]

I supposer bsh ss bc we have the scroll already

[lean sundial]

Skip BSH

[jaunty lark]

Doubt irs gonna be same scroll for bottom acc. If we get any scroll for craft

[urban bridge]

You can skip it yeah

[lean sundial]

You're expecting randos to know what they're doing

[little moat]

<hasnt primered anything
<goes straight bsh ss to primer

Calculated.

[urban bridge]

eventually though they'll make it so that BSH ss is really easy to come by

[little moat]

They're passively applied lmao

[lean sundial]

Takes 3 weeks to get one piece with low crit on it

[urban bridge]

I'm selling mine day 1 though lol

[drowsy palm]

WTS Haru i give you 500$

[urban bridge]

since its like brightstone

[little moat]

The boxes for sure

The pieces u get u cant sell

[drowsy palm]

btw Haru

[desert igloo]

you tagged the wrong person 😄

[urban bridge]

Selling me???

[lean sundial]

If I can find a group for bsh and get any loot, it's going on f5 100%

[drowsy palm]

Black Dragon Rancor

is giving 3 seconds Black Dragon right

in KR

[urban bridge]

yeah

[drowsy palm]

cause its still unreadable in YAST

is it refresh or fresh

[urban bridge]

fresh

[jaunty lark]

Still. Why the cursed nick

[urban bridge]

well

you have to use black dragon rancor during black dragon buff

so its like kind of both?

[drowsy palm]

then its refresh

dang

[desert igloo]

what has that to do with you tagging the wrong guy lmao

[drowsy palm]

changes rota

[urban bridge]

I mean like you can use it without to have it grant 3 seconds but

[drowsy palm]

but i will add it for sure

[little moat]

hi maria

oops wrong tag

[urban bridge]

it does poopoo dmg if you don't use it during bd window

[drowsy palm]

well then its fine

i dont care bout the dps of black dragon

does bdr trigger on first hit

or last

[urban bridge]

last

[jaunty lark]

I tagged haru response. What discord did is not my issue lol

[drowsy palm]

ok thats sad

[urban bridge]

works like multislash

[wooden rain]

Sure
Regardless i don't know how much people scale with bsh gear but assuming you can't do bsh day 1, probably week 1, how many months will it take before naryu lab is accessible

[drowsy palm]

no way

as slow?

or faster

[urban bridge]

I haven't seen the animation for it

but its 5 hits so

[drowsy palm]

oh my god

[urban bridge]

it won't be fast xD

[drowsy palm]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-fall-and-back-gif-25193110

[desert igloo]

allright eddie murphy

[drowsy palm]

@desert igloo

how much breeze u stacked

[urban bridge]

are you asking if siren has craft or the new bottom accessories have craft

[drowsy palm]

show char

[urban bridge]

well either way both can be crafted through radiant ring

[little moat]

Oh why did u do that

[desert igloo]

Just 1 additional purple. The name was more to join the tab stacking meme train 😉

[urban bridge]

well the designs anyway

#1 doesn't get used in the new purple bottom accessory craft anyway

[jaunty lark]

New bottom

[urban bridge]

no reason to keep them around unless you trying to make sirens

[urban bridge]

they do yeah

[jaunty lark]

Or more so, if its dif scroll or same. I doubt its gonna e the same scroll but

[urban bridge]

different scroll

different design

[lean sundial]

Diff scroll/design

[jaunty lark]

Fodder it is 🤔

[urban bridge]

need # 2 design

[lean sundial]

#2, craftable from radiant ring

[drowsy palm]

so im Pierce Stacking Grandmaster

[urban bridge]

or exchangable from faction merchant

whenever patch drops

[lean sundial]

Can I be green dt stacker

[jaunty lark]

I dont have the rating on the alt still. Fml

[burnt helm]

https://tenor.com/view/got-any-change-gif-15245971689009273644

[little moat]

U need 12 #1 for necklace

[burnt helm]

can i get a pierce pls maria

[lean sundial]

According to Yasin's video, not at faction vendor

[drowsy palm]

you can be Grey Book Stacker

[drowsy palm]

sure

i list it

[urban bridge]

huh must have taken it out at some point

[drowsy palm]

100k

[burnt helm]

[drowsy palm]

how much u want to pay blaze

i will drop 1 pierce anyways

[lean sundial]

It only had weap & #1

[urban bridge]

I swear I've seen them in there before..

[urban bridge]

nvm that was CN server

don't mind me

[drowsy palm]

RIP

never saw that less

[lean sundial]

Just like any good thing

[drowsy palm]

didnt knew its possible

to go under 1000(0)

[burnt helm]

im always poor

[jaunty lark]

Meanwhile me, I cant barely go over 1k LMAO

[little moat]

@lean sundial U need 12x #1 design

[urban bridge]

okay NA pls this was 2k the other day

same for these

[brave pendant]

let them dream

[drowsy palm]

they drunk

[sage tulip]

[queen marsh]

Lmao is there a pvp update or something

[brave pendant]

should've seen when that lightning draw first appeared for 40k a few days ago

it's been slowly going down

[urban bridge]

lol I bought mine for pvp use for like 2.5k

NA be on something

[lean sundial]

What for lmao

Siren accessories are dirt cheap in f5

You were the one to mention it

[urban bridge]

legendary weapon and neck

[lean sundial]

[urban bridge]

take 12 #1 designs

I believe

[little moat]

Indeed.

[lean sundial]

Yes

[sage tulip]

12500 for cold storage

lf duo for cs

[lean sundial]

But I'd rather sell 100g and get a legendary off of f5 with the dg

[little moat]

But u can't even buy those

[little moat]

Duo u need a bit more 😂

[sage tulip]

i just need 2 purple books

[little moat]

33.5k dps duo

We can prob 3 man it tho

[urban bridge]

Get two maria

its doable

[sage tulip]

:D

[brave pendant]

enemy levels are very high. we are gonna start missing a whole lot of attacks too

[little moat]

We bring the bleed and perma def reduction slave

And then we 3 man

[grizzled gale]

Could I interest you in my PURPLE scarlet breeze lmb tab stacking?

[drowsy palm]

we can go lets start

[sage tulip]

[little moat]

Maria is server transferring specially for you

[sage tulip]

@drowsy palm

[gilded thistle]

I love these cats

[burnt helm]

why do I even feel disappointed

[gilded thistle]