in live, when we got higher levels, crit threhsholds got upped, meaning 2000 crit at 45 was a higher% than 2000 crit at 50
#Blade Master
lean sundial
sage tulip
ive this one already, bought it for 500 on market
lean sundial
what
sage tulip
lean sundial
wdym that was 500 dg
lean sundial
+9 virtuous dt mystic for sale, surely that wouldn't be Maria's 
tough robin
i bid 20k on that one 😦
noble geyser
That’s a snipe
drowsy palm
Idk
lean sundial
sage tulip
sage tulip
ah i see
drowsy palm
Also we should get heavens Mandate After Story 4 ending
42 chapters i think
Idk why we dont get Hm Levels
We had it on lvl 45
So we can get hm points
lean sundial
do they have hm levels on kr?
drowsy palm
No
odd dagger
actual big brain cause u cant get purple tabs
burnt helm
surely they'd drop an announcemnt for content 1 day prior
burnt helm
if it's not tomorrow I don't want it
noble geyser
Anyone got a picture of the road map
burnt helm
lean sundial
this is the only piece of information we have 
worn jewel
This game is giving me trust issues. Every time I need my team to CC to not break my rotation, the leave me hanging. Every time I need to block to cyclone for focus, they knock it down just as I block.
queen marsh
This game is giving me trust issues. Every time I need my team to CC to not brea...
Not having access to a kd has made me understand
People suck at this game
burnt helm
I'm sorry I'm using meteor strike
burnt helm
Big ass cooldown
worn jewel
I use meteor strike because it's useful in AoE pulls and PvP because you can never land kick with the terrible desync
In a world where we only fight bosses, I would buy KD kick
burnt helm
I'll get kd kick right after I get crit psyche on my ring
worn jewel
Electric saber finally drops back to 500, so I buy it. I then transmute a blue box and get electric saber.
burnt helm
Sell it for 500
jaunty lark
I'm sorry I'm using meteor strike
blue boot 👍
jaunty lark
Electric saber finally drops back to 500, so I buy it. I then transmute a blue b...
man, i was tempted to play hybrid, but im poor. Already doing basic stance build. Weird to change now
burnt helm
I'll get it eventually
sage tulip
can accessories get extra skill slot by upgrading, no right?
burnt helm
I have yet to see anyone say they got an extra slot by upgrading, same for the core on wep
worn jewel
I'm convinced box RNG is linked to price. The lower the price on the market, the more likely things are to drop. The more expensive, the less likely.
sage tulip
I have yet to see anyone say they got an extra slot by upgrading, same for the c...
hmm
seems like they do, prolly very low chance
queen marsh
Electric saber finally drops back to 500, so I buy it. I then transmute a blue b...
Wait for prices to go up again
queen marsh
I'll get kd kick right after I get crit psyche on my ring
I'll get KD kick when we get more skill slots
burnt helm
seems like they do, prolly very low chance
Considering the cost idk if it's worth the hassle, 3 attempts is already 500gems + crafting maps
Is that on the website?
slender kelp
always a red flag when there's vague language like this, like just saying there's a chance could be 99% or 0.0001%
sage tulip
yeah on official guidebook
burnt helm
Just like the 20% box transmute
sage tulip
always a red flag when there's vague language like this, like just saying there'...
true
worn jewel
Well there goes my 1% roll for the week.
sage tulip
merry prairie
I dropped this 
burnt helm
Gz, few k worth?
little moat
I dropped this <:poh_happy:1198531134997413988>
Big defense 
merry prairie
Big defense buff 
worn jewel
Getting bad rolls is really crushing my enthusiasm. I've made 1 siren sword a day, + PvP/Faction weeklies, and still haven't gotten a double crit weapon. Only one of them was even worth selling and it didn't bring much. There should be a system to reroll one stat for the cost of making a new weapon so you can make incremental progress toward a good weapon if you don't win the lottery in one go.
burnt helm
It does feel like if you don't get lucky in this game you go nowhere
jaunty lark
Getting bad rolls is really crushing my enthusiasm. I've made 1 siren sword a da...
i already lost faith on it tbh. Gonna cope with crit dmg and hp. If not im not gonna upgrade the sword ever
otherwise, u can always pay 1k for a low double crit socket one, and pray on the upgrades, lel
worn jewel
All my gear is sitting at awakened because I don't want to waste money getting it to true when I can already do the content
and none of it is double crit
burnt helm
Are you planning on upgrading to legendary?
worn jewel
I don't think the game will be around when I'm ready to upgrade to legendary
jaunty lark
All my gear is sitting at awakened because I don't want to waste money getting i...
If u have dps enought for the next content then just chill i guess
burnt helm
Upgrading to awakened/true feels like a massive waste of resources
Accessories anyway
worn jewel
Upgrading to awakened is how I turned my low roll accessories into at least decently high roll
jaunty lark
Upgrading to awakened/true feels like a massive waste of resources
it is
buuuuut, if u need more stats there isnt much. Dunno what its worse, if acc or psyches
burnt helm
I guess to awakened isn't too bad if your stats roll higher
merry prairie
psyches are big for stats
burnt helm
But if you're going to buy legendary
sage tulip
nah
jaunty lark
but u talking to a purple meteor strike owner
rng isnt in my dictionary
anyway I still havent checked fully the gear progression, i know its not gonna be as live so LUL
slender kelp
destroyers are legit giga strong but feels like most of them have no hands idk
jaunty lark
but like, siren double crit decent can be 500 gems, legendary 3k+ 🤣
burnt helm
We'll make it bro 🙏
sage tulip
but like, siren double crit decent can be 500 gems, legendary 3k+ 🤣
3k? you wish
burnt helm
destroyers are legit giga strong but feels like most of them have no hands idk
Freak the destroyer does nuts dmg
Haven't seen any other destro doing as much dmg as him
worn jewel
The best roll I've gotten on anything
jaunty lark
3k? you wish
was gonna say a one liner, but ye. that also not gonna be 3k lel
worn jewel
merry prairie
I honestly thought destroyer was a bot class until I saw Freak, he is pummpingggg
worn jewel
I've had a few destroyer whales pump on my face during Whale Lagoon. Your health just evaporates if you can't get out of their animation cancel spam
Fastest I've died to anyone except a BM with PvP spec
sage tulip
I honestly thought destroyer was a bot class until I saw Freak, he is pummpinggg...
are you getting top 5 tonight on wb? 
merry prairie
are you getting top 5 tonight on wb? <a:catask:1169542062941675680>
I have to get purple cyclone first to do that 😭
noble geyser
Every time I roll for loot in the dungeon I get stiffed where is the luck!!!!!!
sage tulip
I have to get purple cyclone first to do that 😭
youre lucky theres one on market 
merry prairie
Waiting for it to go down, I'm not made out of gems sadly 
slender kelp
only thing i was lucky on in this game was getting purple cyclone for my lv50 🙏
noble geyser
My 50 box was bad should’ve given me a damage skill not hm block
sage tulip
noble geyser
Maybe I get an alt and just do boss dailies until I’m 50
burnt helm
only thing i was lucky on in this game was getting purple cyclone for my lv50 🙏
Only thing I got lucky with was getting blade strike for my 50 box
merry prairie
only thing i was lucky on in this game was getting purple cyclone for my lv50 🙏
Rng carried 😭
lean sundial
sage tulip
broken how?
queen marsh
Don't gain any more points, all the objectives like "reach level 5" are displayed as reset
Like
slender kelp
ye it's like that for everyone
queen marsh
Oh well
sage tulip
oh yea didnt even notice
burnt helm
but im playing hybrid
It's a sign
queen marsh
I missed a week+ on this BP when the DCs started and I had everything lined up to reach max level right before it ends
Hopefully this is just a display bug
sage tulip
It's a sign
merry prairie
Don't gain any more points, all the objectives like "reach level 5" are displaye...
Yeah it's a bug but I completed it anyway
lean sundial
I wonder if I should be getting a leg ring today/tomorrow, since less people will be running poh with bsh...
slender kelp
what's coming with bsh btw? probably new soul shield set, but do we also get new accessories for the bottom 3?
little moat
what's coming with bsh btw? probably new soul shield set, but do we also get new...
Yep
And leg swep
odd dagger
bottom 3 , neck legend iirc
odd dagger
slender kelp
glad i managed to sell the gloves and bracelet i had that i was planning to invest on before the patch then
odd dagger
tbh , it will take a while till u get good cheap pieces for new purples since next few dgs arent easy enough
little moat
Its hrader then junghado i swear
odd dagger
whats wrong with dokumo 
slender kelp
wouldn't they be craftable with designs? they should be same tier as siren accessories no?
odd dagger
oh wait , yall suffer cause of having no ccs in hybrid build 
slender kelp
and the accesory designs are conveniently labeled with a #1
odd dagger
ya u need # 2
little moat
oh wait , yall suffer cause of having no ccs in hybrid build <:bns_bursting:1198...
And it does so much dmg!
merry prairie
Just tank him and spin
sage tulip
imagine they make a big ass spider for raid boss with attack pattern like dokumo and some extra stuff
odd lagoon
idk i have also about 8-10k and the craziest one ive seen was a BM with 33K on poharan
queen marsh
Did you reply to the wrong message? 
wooden rain
My lv45 kfm alt out damages or is on par with people with 700 ap on bay lee
wooden rain
Well come on it's not that much stronger than other classes
queen marsh
With green skills
wooden rain
Idk how it looks like with badges though
Bm fm kfm can all have 5k or more with 570 ap and green skills
queen marsh
Well come on it's not that much stronger than other classes
Late game not particularly
Early game it's stupid
I did pull that 6k with 570 ap green skill 0 crit out of nowhere, that's the dps my friend had back then
I don't think any other class can peak that high that early
queen marsh
But on the other hand it also requires knowing how to play the class somewhat
little moat
What about any utility 
little moat
He was hybrid btw
queen marsh
At best he's missing iframe on C and flury
wooden rain
Does utility give bigger dps? No? No place in this game
I don't see electric saber in there, how is he hybrid
wooden rain
I don't think any other class can peak that high that early
Well as i stated my 3 classes looked fairly similar out of the gate
Kfm maybe pulls ahead but not dramatically
queen marsh
No no it does
Then again you might just be suffering from a skrill issue
Which nbd kfm isn't easy to play
little moat
Kekw
wooden rain
I mean you said yourself 6k at 570
queen marsh
If you have a grab on your team KFM also pops off insanely hard
queen marsh
I mean you said yourself 6k at 570
Around there yeah, 6.8-7k
8 with a grab
A good grab *
wooden rain
Oh sure sure, now we're throwing extra factors and increasing numbers by 15% suddenly
odd dagger
bm also hits 6-7k on green books though at 570 ap
infact im pretty sure all class would if they know what they are doing 
queen marsh
bm also hits 6-7k on green books though at 570 ap
Maybe with a tab/lb build but on a fire build nope
wooden rain
Ping is also always a big factor and average would be around 50 i imagine
odd dagger
Maybe with a tab/lb build but on a fire build nope
i mean , are talking about class not build.
queen marsh
You misunderstand
I'm saying maybe iwth a tab LB build because I haven't tested
So I can't say
wooden rain
You can run fire with normal cyclone and pierce when you only have green skills
wooden rain
Well i wouldn't know but it might be close
queen marsh
Nah it should put you at 5-6
wooden rain
Nah no mystic badge here, we're fresh
queen marsh
Bit more bit less
wooden rain
I mean i haven't seen this lv45 kfm with 7k either so both are equally fictional
wooden rain
It doesn't show stats afaik anyway
wooden rain
Clearly you just have to make a kfm alt and show me the way
Training dummy doesn't count btw
queen marsh
Well no because I don't know how to play the class well kek
wooden rain
Maybe he was a god tier kfm running that cobra strike counter or whatever it was
Kekw
queen marsh
Nah just a good 2RF and good searing palm management
merry prairie
Me and minareow top 10 again!
queen marsh
He was one of the old top 5 kfm on arena from way back then
So he's obviously more skilled than the average
wooden rain
Probably has 5 ping as well
queen marsh
On a kfm probably a fair bit
Difference between a mid 2rf and a good 2rf is probably like 20% of the class's dps lmao
wooden rain
Tbh that's the part that doesn't seem possible for me on early kfm
queen marsh
Wym?
wooden rain
You can't maintain searing palm at high stage if you don't want it on cd
And if you go gradually then your crit rate is gonna be like 1000 + 20-30% for a good while, which is nowhere close to maintain focus
queen marsh
You can't maintain searing palm at high stage if you don't want it on cd
And if ...
Oh yeah no you want to rush searing stage 4 early on
You don't have the crate to sustain otherwise
After that your goal is just to CD reduce it
wooden rain
Then wtf are you gonna do the entire time it's on cd? You don't have the skill books for it
You're gonna have like 20s down
little moat
Intresting BM conversation
wooden rain
I feel like you should be aiming for more sustain, all you're doing is delaying the 2rf burst
Better than lose 20-30% cr
wooden rain
Intresting BM conversation <:SUS:1351184410531201154>
The channel name is more like a suggestion
And it started from bm vs kfm dps
queen marsh
I feel like you should be aiming for more sustain, all you're doing is delaying ...
You should have enough to CD reduce the searing enough that you can just use stage 3 and stage 4 is my understanding of how he played
After that he had like 10s of downtime maybe
wooden rain
Well anyway I'm not a kfm expert, it doesn't look like it'd work to me but whatever
Point is people have massive skill issues and the game isn't encouraging them to fix that at all
little moat
Bm op
little moat
queen marsh
queen marsh
I AM GOING TO KILL MYSEL-
little moat
5 seconds parse, aoe'd
Well no that was the end of the kill
queen marsh
queen marsh
Why did they make upgrades cost that much gold man
As if the crafting mats weren't enough
wooden rain
You know why
lean sundial
little moat
little moat
Failed another 2 purple transmutes
I give up, this is like 1%
That's 15 tries, one succeeded
merry prairie
Don't gamba, I learned it the hard way
little moat
Yup, Me too
brave pendant
^
toxic portal
I remember someone in here mention something about random switching to basic stance awhile ago and I've started to experience it as well. No idea why
Full focus and all
little moat
I remember someone in here mention something about random switching to basic sta...
Mushin tower nonsense
Happens nearly every floor atleast once 🤣
toxic portal
Mushin tower nonsense
Yeah good point. IDK if I've experienced it at all outside of Mushin tower. But I did like 4 times right now, on floor 6.
lean sundial
hmmm, at 8 ping, should I be expecting 10 LB+9DT / SS?
like, 8 or 80?
if it's 8 and not a typo, you can go 12/12 per SS
delicate bone
what the heck, 12? wow ok
sturdy dagger
Yes, you can do a ES+DT every 0.5167 seconds, no less then that
delicate bone
this is with the virtuous badge ye?
sturdy dagger
Badge has no importance how many you can do in 6 seconds (ss buff duration)
lean sundial
you said per SS, so 6 seconds
but yes, you'll do less to reset SS
I did 10/10 (moonwater badge) and it was reset, but can go 12/12
toxic portal
Imagine living in a world with 13 ping. You can actually play the game
I can't even get macros to come out smoothly at 70 ping without being extreme slow
delicate bone
funny thing with that, so I always played mmos and moba at around 30-40ping. Got lucky with bns since I live near frankfurt rn, 7-8 ping most of the time. Today I had been screwing up with my vpn and accidently made myself have 40 ping and the game immediately felt terrible to play 😄
this is like playing 30fps all your life and then experiencing 60fps and having to go back to 30
you'd never think it'd make such a difference, but what the ehck it rly does
toxic portal
30, 40, or even 70 isnt even bad ping. Only in this game.
queen marsh
My favorite thing about Neo is how it looks worse than retail but also, as a little treat, runs worse
Like I returned on retail recently to fck around with a friend and the game ran smoothly af. Neo? Stutters whenever there's more than a single person near me
worn jewel
I miss classic. We had 40 man open world raids with no issues. Now I have to toggle characters to outlines in dungeons
I had a Radeon 5850 then and a Geforce 4090 now. Make it make sense
I will admit that part of it is down to resolution. 1080 vs 5120x1440
toxic portal
systems getting more powerful will always be a reason for games to be made and optimized more poorly rather than increased performance or more impressive visuals sadly
nova lotus
thing is counter in game doesnt mean exactly ping but the delay on skill, and surprise surprise each skill has its own delay
while related ping in game is not ms you see in game
tough robin
So hum, midnight in eu, i guess no patch tomorrow?
jaunty lark
what do we get with bsh patch again? SS bottom, acc? Siren should still be the go to on the rest, no?
merry prairie
no patch tomorrow dead game 
worn jewel
Only thing coming tom or row is a new battle pass
delicate bone
any thoughts on ankelbiter versus fissure? I can see how fissure can help a lot with sustain, but that extra kd is so nice in a lot of the content 🤔
nova lotus
you dont really need it for hybrid
brave pendant
any thoughts on ankelbiter versus fissure? I can see how fissure can help a lot ...
the consecutive anklebiter can make you solo KD. good if you don't care about the focus
jaunty lark
if u play drawstance: "ew, swapping stance", if u play pierce: "ew, no focus"
pick ur poison
brave pendant
never miss a KD again. boot 33
delicate bone
the consecutive anklebiter can make you solo KD. good if you don't care about th...
ye, ive done this many times so one of the main reasons I'm kind of looking for an excuse to not switch
alrighty, another question would be cyclone versus vortex, the trade-off here that im seeing is that cyclone can be really nice to get more HS spam in if fighting something that can be blocked a lot
while the other makes it more reliable in getting back into the ss rotation, is that fairly accurate?
queen marsh
I will admit that part of it is down to resolution. 1080 vs 5120x1440
Trust me: it isn't
Still in 1080p here, I was on a 1050ti back then with little to no issue, 4070 super now and the game sh*ts itself every time there's 4-5 people near me.
worn jewel
Yeah, optimization is a bit of a mess
queen marsh
Honestly I don't know what they did but yeah
And like I said, if the base game ran the same I'd get it but instead I get 40 more fps over there and very little stutters
It's wild
And the loading screens still feel like I'm running the game on an HDD. Which I am not.
brave pendant
alrighty, another question would be cyclone versus vortex, the trade-off here th...
cyclone with shoulder charge immunity is very nice for WB for focus recovery builds. I think I'd prefer that over vortex even on pierce
otherwise could cyclone heavenly slasher for hybrid or vortex go back to DT
calm meteor
Im new at Blade Master can anyone share to me any build?
Some1 told me about fire build was cheaper but no the best
brave pendant
Im new at Blade Master can anyone share to me any build?
check pins. depends on how much $$ you've got and ping
calm meteor
check pins. depends on how much $$ you've got and ping
50 ping
Im about play as alter, so cheaper and strong
azure moth
any information about the update ?
tough robin
any information about the update ?
No update, battle pass is extended, no event, no nothing, just one more week of bad bug.
toxic portal
everyone loves the double maint
hard iris
Nice I’m getting the bonus chests from BP :D
azure moth
No update, battle pass is extended, no event, no nothing, just one more week of ...
we are prisoned for 1 more week 😦
slender kelp
anyone know why the emergency maintenance?
tough robin
To extend battle pass
slender kelp
certified bruh moment
tough robin
Because extended battle pass
(0 reason why)
It's all in #💻︱server-maintenance
No extra info
queen marsh
Ight
Figured they might have done an announcement on their website as to why they're extending the cinderland battlepass instead of giving us the moonwater one
slender kelp
likely the extended battle pass is because moonwater part 2 patch was delayed by a week
so they extended the pass by a week
queen marsh
They could have just given us the moonwater bp earlier than the update
worn jewel
NCSoft is a smol indie company. You can't expect too much fom them
worn jewel
Guy only had 730 AP and 750 CD
spiral sky
how much pierce
queen marsh
I mean yeah comet strike deals stupid damage
Hurts to see additional cast in pvp instead of daze but oh well
What can you do
worn jewel
You can get deleted. That's what you can do. 
hollow karma
poh and devourer for 130 life drain on crit at 2 cost
also gives 110 piercing or something like that
high dagger
anyone got purp puncture books for sale 35k need 5
queen marsh
poh and devourer for 130 life drain on crit at 2 cost
So I'll need two poh cards if I wanna use that
Since Poh has the 32 ap set
And no doubt other valuable sets
hollow karma
Since Poh has the 32 ap set
idk if that one or the 23 ap set with a bunch of crit rate and cdmg is better
queen marsh
idk if that one or the 23 ap set with a bunch of crit rate and cdmg is better
You mean the yunma fei one?
little moat
I can't even get macros to come out smoothly at 70 ping without being extreme sl...
I feel you, I am using 50ms delay in the macro at 40ms lol
Same speed I can do it manually pmuch
If i reduce it it starts skipping
brave pendant
Pierce enjoyers, do you guys prefer blue vortex wave or cyclone + shoulder immunity on WB? Or even purple vortex wave vs cyclone + shoulder immunity
tough robin
I'd take purple vortex wave over anything else. If it was to be blue huh, could be cyclone.
little moat
Purple dt 
lean sundial
Cheated and used Koki Tribe card set for an extra 8 ap, now at 725, surely now I'm not gatekept anymore 
burnt helm
you're being gatekept? wtf
tough robin
the servers lagging at 10 am is terrifying
merry prairie
Did you get it from the outfit chests?
tough robin
like do i actually need to work smh, i thought remote meant i could play games 
burnt helm
seems like it
merry prairie
Make a character on cinderlands already, problem solved
little moat
Cheated and used Koki Tribe card set for an extra 8 ap, now at 725, surely now I...
That isn't Kaari set 
lean sundial
you're being gatekept? wtf
Yep, 717 too low for them
little moat
No way 
lean sundial
Even though I always am at 15k on slashimi/maksobo
And they're struggling to hit 7k
little moat
Who the hell gatekeeps 800AP+
lean sundial
They're gatekeeping 720 
little moat
"i got 802 ap but 100 cr and cd" 
burnt helm
are you applying to 800 crit rate party leads
lean sundial
Hey I'm at 2k/1k 
little moat
I need better AP insignias but fusing so expensive e
little moat
Hey I'm at 2k/1k <:EulaKMS:869981429533143062>
Filthy whale
lean sundial
No issues with moonwater wdym
lean sundial
Exitlag de6 my lord and savior
little moat
merry prairie
BnS a paid subscription game lmao
lean sundial
Just like KR release
little moat
Exitlag makes my ping go from 40ms to 60
lean sundial
For many years
burnt helm
are you picking canada as your route?
little moat
Moscow, obviously.
jaunty lark
Cheated and used Koki Tribe card set for an extra 8 ap, now at 725, surely now I...
If u are gatekept im gonna be throw out of the planet, bruh
little moat
Anybody else checking if BMs are lightning when they apply?
merry prairie
I accepted one into my party to compare dps once
tough robin
this is charity
little moat
I bring light bm's occassionally just to feel good about myself
burnt helm
I accepted one into my party to compare dps once
menace
little moat
780 AP light bm? Sure come along i'll carry you with my 705.
odd dagger
Yep, 717 too low for them
huh i havent been gatekept to any pt at 710 ap
even when i apply to 750+ ap pts lmao
merry prairie
They know you're the bm god Skyrus, ofc they will accept you
void blaze
little moat
Don't u need some utility skills 
little moat
little moat
Omg that must be a Legendary DT user
slender kelp
I think you're BSH ready but not sure
little moat
Hey looks like mine <a:Classic:1249435085338316810>
No way u don't do 20k dummy with that, i refuse 
I just sold my 2nd and 3rd blue BT cuz it felt so useless 😂
#RoadToPurple
lean sundial
Oh I'm only stacking 5 dts, not 7
Using green searing too
little moat
I might have to much additional stuff xd
Shoulder charge, Scale ripper and dragon crash are all droppable
But i like them 
lean sundial
Honestly the one thing I want is simply to have more cooldowns displayed
Like Fissure/Flock 
I'm missing skill slots in some accessories cough ring cough
little moat
I got 1 slot in my belt 💀
But ain't no way i'm buying a blue belt with 2/3 slots and crate/dmg for the price they ask lmao
queen marsh
act goes crazy mid spikes
Yeah highest I've seen was 800k
queen marsh
I might have to much additional stuff xd
Bro's got as much sh*t in his build as a light bm 
queen marsh
Honestly the one thing I want is simply to have more cooldowns displayed
Like Fi...
Wish we could customize which skill's cooldown are displayed
lean sundial
But ain't no way i'm buying a blue belt with 2/3 slots and crate/dmg for the pri...
Next week for sure 
little moat
Bro's got as much sh*t in his build as a light bm <:ICANT:1017900779031506945>
Just alot of goodies!
lean sundial
My build should be looking like this
burnt helm
tank her near a wall
little moat
The only thing i'm doing is gettign air combod and cc't.
merry prairie
You have to pay attention to her animations, the jump daze she does is different from everything else
odd dagger
ss when shes about to back flip > you can hit her twice after this then block , then stay on opposite time of ur team , side step to ur team when she shoots. repeat
little moat
I have a little bit of the Skrill Issue
burnt helm
then find an FM willing to tank
little moat
Me get air combo and die.
burnt helm
let it build aggro for a bit before jumping in
little moat
then find an FM willing to tank
They dont exist.
little moat
i'm called Lith
burnt helm
only thing server shared is marketplace right
little moat
Marketplace is region
merry prairie
Hmm, never invited u to my party that's for sure
odd dagger
also if u SS then turn around she will back flip to same location she was already in wihtout any walls and since u are still far from her she will do the cone.
burnt helm
you getting gatekept
little moat
(not rlly I never apply, I make my own groups cuz I bring my wife)
And the game doesnt allow to apply as party
queen marsh
You made your wife play this sh*t? Worst husband smh
little moat
Other way around
queen marsh
Keep your unhealthy addiction to yoursel- oh okay then
queen marsh
Yeah what he said
queen marsh
That's crazy
burnt helm
cursed marriage
queen marsh
Fr
little moat
True, neihter of us got financial reason.
queen marsh
Bro put a moonstone on the ring
queen marsh
Anyone else getting weird af stutters when moving (like one second after moving there's consistantly a stutter for me and then it goes away) while there are a lot of people around ?
rain nimbus
2nd time getting this
little moat
give it up, this is a lovery.
worn jewel
I broke down and bought a blue lunar slash combo for lmb tab cancel. It averages the same DPS as being sweaty AF and going apedick with black dragon pierce with 1% of the effort, and I never have to worry about focus.
north burrow
Lunar tab is already a part of the pierce rotation though
worn jewel
Black dragon buff rotation
worn jewel
Kind of hard to do lmb/tab rotation with BDR on your tab
little moat
huh
What rotation is bdr rotation
Blue/Purp pierce rotation with vortex and purple bladecall?
worn jewel
Didn't have the money
It was good enough to do top damage in most parties so I didn't worry too much about it
toxic portal
I only use 2 buttons. 20-22k dps on dummy
little moat
Same. ES and DT
toxic portal
Sunstroke and DT. Cant es on my ping
little moat
Is ur ping above 100?
toxic portal
no, 68-70, but I dont have virtuous mystic badge so sunstroke doesnt reset within 6s with my macro
I'm not playing hybrid anyways. Pure fire
slender kelp
I couldnt ES DT with 55ish ping either, unlucky
little moat
Less then Hybrid or Pierce/Puncture
lean sundial
Lmb tab with purple HS 
rain nimbus
tab lmb does damage
lean sundial
I mean I'd try it, if swapping build didn't cost an arm
lean sundial
Draw stance best stance (because I'm broke)
little moat
I tried it, Less then fire wich is less then hybrid so I tossed it again
lean sundial
Pure fire is negative effort
north burrow
Holding RMB isn't fun gameplay unfortunately therefore not best build
little moat
Not like the gameplay changes alot
Macro lb tab, lb tab rb or macro es dt
Its the same stuff lol
lean sundial
Holding a macro that does R/T or R/Tab or R/Tab/T isn't much better than holding RMB
odd dagger
I tried it, Less then fire wich is less then hybrid so I tossed it again <:KEKW_...
but did u have 10 copies of lunar slash on ur acc
little moat
but did u have 10 copies of lunar slash on ur acc
I don't have 10 copies of DT either so no.
lean sundial
Sorry I've anicanceled for years on Des, my arthritis and carpal aren't thanking me
odd dagger
but , u dont need any focus recovery skills for it.
worn jewel
Best thing about lmb tab is there is no such thing about broken rotation. Most builds will have lower real world DPS when the BDR buff doesn't get refreshed from having to defend or the boss moving, while it just happily keeps going like nothing happened
odd dagger
thats a lot of spaces to put more tabs
queen marsh
Sorry I've anicanceled for years on Des, my arthritis and carpal aren't thanking...
Skill issue, simply change your wrists
toxic portal
Whats focus? That blue bar that doesnt do anything?
little moat
Untill u eventually get outscaled
north burrow
What gets outscaled
slender kelp
You all get outscaled once my main class gets released in 3 years 💪
north burrow
Game isn't even gonna last until WL in the west, let's be real 
lean sundial
Untill u eventually get outscaled <:KEKW_Salute:818504617117745173>
You running hybrid as well, right?
little moat
Yush
worn jewel
Poast stats and best Baylee parse so we can compare builds.
lean sundial
So you do end up having a couple of "dry" rotations that are half hybrid half RMB?
little moat
Nopes
lean sundial
north burrow
Do you have purple sun stroke
little moat
I usually have 2 ES-DT rotation extra if SS is off cd
lean sundial
I wish
little moat
(with blue ss)
north burrow
That's the only way you don't
lean sundial
Oh he's got mystic dt
toxic portal
Just have good ping and virtuous mystic badge
lean sundial
iirc
lean sundial
I should record like 3 minutes of dummy, see if I'm doing something wrong
north burrow
BM parses on dummy kinda suck because you don't get to block for focus
lean sundial
Usually opening with VCV 4 Tab ES/DT X ES/DT (2 before dry) until out of draw 3 Tab ES/DT..'
slender kelp
Extra bad for pierce builds not being able to vortex on dummy
odd dagger
fire bm parse is always accurate
rain nimbus
Game isn't even gonna last until WL in the west, let's be real <:OMEGALUL:677122...
games doing just fine
north burrow
games doing just fine
rain nimbus
mistx keeping it alive
little moat
Usually opening with VCV 4 Tab ES/DT X ES/DT (2 before dry) until out of draw 3 ...
Soul, VCV Tab 4 ES-DT Tab ES-DT Block Fissure Tab ES DT Tab ES DT, Rush Tab ES DT, Tab Raid ES-Dt, Repeat.
little moat
Stone
Nah I dont use X cuz I dont need it xd
I use 4 after tab because I swear we have some sort of crit modifier on draw stance
eventho its stated nowhere 😂
lean sundial
Isn't rush in basic? Do you go block>rush then?
queen marsh
Soul, VCV Tab 4 ES-DT Tab ES-DT Block Fissure Tab ES DT Tab ES DT, Rush Tab ES D...
You can soul after the V
little moat
I soul on the prepull so I just wrote that down xd
rain nimbus
<:copium:854442725456609290>
if you think the game isnt doing fine or is going to die then just quit and leave lmao
why stick around
little moat
why stick around
Dooming is 90% of the gameplay for most MMORPG players on forums.
toxic portal
Damn, i just press 4, tab, rmb until tab, repeat. Save flock in case I make a mistake, cant hit the boss due to unexpected grabs and teammates knocking the boss up lol
Sometimes I even block or hm block
slender kelp
Fun fact, every game starts dying 1 nanosecond after release
toxic portal
Just like people
little moat
Most KR games are dedged before even releasing
north burrow
why stick around
To have fun until it does 
worn jewel
Dooming is 90% of the gameplay for most MMORPG players on forums.
True, but dooming in B&S is just being realistic. The population has dropped off a cliff. Rituals in prime time are often not full on channel 1, where a month ago you might miss out on all 5 channels at multiple ritual sites
north burrow
The state of the game in other regions should tell you the direction it's headed
north burrow
And the western audience is even less tolerant than KR
Damn a whole 4 channels
We had 30 full channels a few weeks ago
little moat
Can't have 30 channels of ritual so why does that matter
queen marsh
No but you can have 5
And it used to be if you were mildly late you'd end up in chan 6 or 7
little moat
Yup and the first 4 are always full and sometimes the 5th
I arrived in ch 9 yday
but I could get party invited into 5
(Plus rituals are fing useless lol)
north burrow
I give it a week after BSH patch that the population shows another noticeable drop
little moat
Isn't that normal
Just like any mmorpg, the peak is over and now it's slow decline until it flattens
Any game ever tbf.
north burrow
Content patches aren't supposed to make people quit
They're supposed to make people play
jaunty lark
Bro was playing pierce with SS tab
Wair, wtf? xdd
north burrow
Yet BSH nuked the KR playerbase lol
jaunty lark
Thats next lvl suffering
jaunty lark
I mean, but dont u just hold rmb using tab bd? LUL
worn jewel
It takes like 2 seconds to focus dump, so you're not holding it for long
jaunty lark
Now u can do the next step. Bench pierce, be a slasher chad 😎😎🤣
queen marsh
Wow tww s2 made me quit
tww?
worn jewel
Don't have the gems to be a slasher chad. 😥
tough robin
I might have to much additional stuff xd
Bolt strike very sus wat
worn jewel
Why do you think I was playing BDR pierce?
little moat
Bolt strike very sus wat
Kd?
burnt helm
you know what's the actual worse part of it all
tough robin
Kd?
1 is enough let your party do it and if they don't you'll most likely survive and they won't, their mistake
little moat
1 is enough let your party do it and if they don't you'll most likely survive an...
As I am always tanking I don't have iframes, If I don't cc I am the one dying 
tough robin
Also you can solo cc with scale ripper reeee
little moat
i got scale ripper but prob replacing that
My wife kd's to soon so I can't even use it
toxic portal
Idk how anyone plays without five point strike iframe
burnt helm
the less people the game has to play the worse it becomes to progress due to the skill book system, nobody playing = no books dropping = cant progress
tough robin
My wife kd's to soon so I can't even use it
Play without your wife and without kd 
little moat
But she is my cat taunt and perma pin slave
tough robin
Idk how anyone plays without five point strike iframe
You get used to it
little moat
and tbf, She pumps hard on hornets lmao
burnt helm
Idk how anyone plays without five point strike iframe
for dt I assume?
tough robin
I'm wondering what my alt should be
spiral sky
Bm
little moat
I'm wondering what my alt should be
Summ 
burnt helm
i actually dont think i've ever used five point strike for iframes but i am basic stance
spiral sky
All the 3 slots should be BM
tough robin
Summ <:yay:899062707683209218>
Oh no I mean what kind of bm xd
little moat
The good kind
tough robin
Scarlet + tab
little moat
The rat bm
little moat
Scarlet + tab
U got any feedback about the conversation earlier?
tough robin
U got any feedback about the conversation earlier?
Did I miss something?
spiral sky
Tab combo + ES
little moat
Scarlet Tab vs Hybrid, When u don't got money to DT stack
spiral sky
Be unique
tough robin
I think scarlet is really bad
tough robin
Tab combo + ES
Oh yeah with es badge smart
little moat
Purple typhoon (cyclone) is out of reach for most
spiral sky
Yeah
tough robin
And you get focus regen on 4 mystic
tough robin
Yeah no that makes me want to die just thinking about it
rain nimbus
Ditch bd just use lunar tab cyclone lmb you'll be fine
tough robin
Requires too high crit to keep focus on tab
I'll use scarlet so I can have a purple book and people don't gatekeep me.
Little do they know the skill is useless
tough robin
Typhoon makes me think of the other cyclone a lot more
rain nimbus
Isn't typhoon a des skill
rain nimbus
Think it's typhoon
toxic portal
Hurricane is blue, typhoon is red iirc
spiral sky
Lightning badges
tough robin
I'm not even clicking that
spiral sky
Brrrrrr
tough robin
0 chance
little moat
Ye dont click that
tough robin
I know what I'm gonna find and I hate it
merry prairie
Ditch bd just use lunar tab cyclone lmb you'll be fine
This guy wanted to play with puncture a few days ago 😀
little moat
Rickroll mf
spiral sky
😥
tough robin
Scarlet tab is fine
rain nimbus
This guy wanted to play with puncture a few days ago 😀
How much damage will purple puncture do vs purple lunar tab when it comes
tough robin
Scarlet tab heavenly slasher is godlike alt build
toxic portal
Multislash didnt seem that good when I used it. Damage was subpar compared to DT and has super long cd compared to the much more convenient rush.
Dropped it and tried it for awhile
merry prairie
No idea, don't have purple tab yet lol
rain nimbus
Purple tab is where it's at
little moat
I have decision issues.
Do I stay hybrid or do I go try Lb-Tab with 2k crit rate 💀
(Probally hybrid, Yeah... Thx for making up my mind)
merry prairie
It's a budget build
tough robin
Hybrid is better
merry prairie
Lazy braindead build that costs 500 gems
rain nimbus
I don't have to stack pierce or puncture. Just tab
tough robin
But that's bad
little moat
But u can stack Tabs, Dt stacking is crazy expensive
little moat
xDDD
merry prairie
Moa I swear, tab stacking is so stupid strong
tough robin
Oh lord
rain nimbus
It rly is tho
little moat
See mao this is why u need to be here 24/7
This is what was going on earlier aswell
and now i'm confoosed
rain nimbus
Idk if @merry prairie is trolling
merry prairie
7 lunar slash is 3,5k which is a blue dragontounge
little moat
1+1=5
little moat
Do we think stacking blue DT's is worth it, or keep blue+green stack untill purple.
rain nimbus
Easier to play. Relaxing. Brainless.
worn jewel
lmb tab is basically focus neutral around 1600 CR. Maybe throw in an occasional rush if you drop low.
tough robin
Do we think stacking blue DT's is worth it, or keep blue+green stack untill purp...
Just stack tab aswell
little moat
SS is expensive
merry prairie
Bahahhahaa
rain nimbus
I have 3.2k cr. Tab lmb is just fun.
rain nimbus
I tried fire before moonwater was added. Stance and buff management.. no thanks
toxic portal
Doesnt management mean holding down 1 button? I'm a great manager if thats the case
slender kelp
Just do a pierce build where you can lb tab AND buff manage at the same time
worn jewel
I have 3.2k cr. Tab lmb is just fun.
What is your macro timing? I can't quite find the point where the lunar slash orange animation disappears. I hit that sweet spot occasionally by accident and DPS spikes, but no timing I've tried makes it consistent.
rain nimbus
No.. I mean if you block you're out of draw stance
little moat
Don't block
merry prairie
Ping dependant Caffy
tough robin
Press f to block in draw
slender kelp
Violent blade
little moat
The button we press when we see your dps output
rain nimbus
My DPS is fine. Way higher than yours for sure
little moat
worn jewel
You should both just post stats and Bug parse.
little moat
idk man, Have you seen my sweet ST damage.
tough robin
Bro can't take a joke
rain nimbus
Should have been 69420
slender kelp
Slashimi is an interesting choice
rain nimbus
No trolling if you stack tab books you can still do cs bsh I promise
No need pierce or puncture
rain nimbus
Summoner lol
noble geyser
Need to go buy blue dt
rain nimbus
I wanted to be summoner so bad. Tab lmb changed that
little moat
U are playing the summoner build of bms
little moat
Summoner is fun but my god it does like no dmg
triple blue hornet gave my wife same dps as my single blue dt lol
north burrow
I wanted to be summoner so bad. Tab lmb changed that
You are at least running heavenly slasher instead of only lmb/tab spamming right lol
rain nimbus
You are at least running heavenly slasher instead of only lmb/tab spamming right...
Just tab lmb
north burrow
When I got purple cyclone lmb purple stone slash
Don't need stone slash
Ok yeah absolutely grab slasher lol
You need a focus dump after blocking
lmb/tab is just filler rotation
rain nimbus
Nah that's a DPS loss
north burrow
It really isn't
rain nimbus
Stacked tab does more than 1 slash
little moat
Need to stack more tabs
odd dagger
heavenly is a 17 AP/s its strong af
Tab is like 13-14 AP/s with stacking.
adding 1 purple heavenly is def the way to go for lb tab build
north burrow
Have you considered that you can anicancel tab and rmb together
spiral sky
Tab + flicker no balls
north burrow
aka the whole reason puncture rotation exists
odd dagger
tab + flicker is also the upgrade
rain nimbus
Have you considered that you can anicancel tab and rmb together
Shaky
noble geyser
Tab + ES
spiral sky
Be the chosen one
little moat
But more skills means less Tab stacking
spiral sky
slender kelp
Wait there's gonna be a purple lunar slash?
little moat
U don't get it guys
spiral sky
Moa reject me
odd dagger
V 4 V C with electric lightning blade badge and lightning blade mystic badge , be bursting.
rain nimbus
Show me a video of rmb not being shaky
north burrow
Literally block an attack with any rmb for max boost and go anicancel with tab
It's not hard
noble geyser
The lightning BM rejected me when they made it bad
little moat
More skills means less Tab stacking!
We run 1x Scarlet and 17 Tabs
merry prairie
It's so funny hahah advocate lunar combo slash stacking more Dark Magician hahah
north burrow
lmb/tab only is always going to be a DPS loss vs a max boosted slasher
Then with extra focus regen you just rmb/tab
odd dagger
idk if ani cancel is worth for hs
little moat
Lmb tab is always going to a dps loss vs any consumer build properly boosted/stacked lol
rain nimbus
Show me a video of tab lmb rmb not being shaky
odd dagger
u only hit 1.8 hs/tab when you do rb tab.
HS spam is 3.4 hs/s
HS doesnt get max speed until 2 cast for some reason.
north burrow
Show me a video of tab lmb rmb not being shaky
Any puncture build video
little moat
characters muscle memory frfr
rain nimbus
Link
north burrow
But I guess your math is better than anyone's parsing
spiral sky
Es badges,tab+es go bbbrrrrrr
burnt helm
What is your macro timing? I can't quite find the point where the lunar slash or...
Due to gcd the macro desyncs so you'll end up missing some if you are right on the edge
Make the delay like 500 and lower it till it's consistent imo
little moat
@rain nimbus Does it count?
rain nimbus
I was watching it
odd dagger
yes its pretty much purple lmb for boosted crit
these builds need lots of investment to get going
rain nimbus
Shaky otherwise?
little moat
What do you even mean with Shaky
odd dagger
he means the build is not reliable
unless u have enough investment
u wont proc pierce
little moat
I mean yeah, Thats why u have Tab LB as a FILLER if you don't proc.
Ur essentially playing half a build.
odd dagger
u wont know that you wont proc
rain nimbus
Macro can't detect
little moat
use eyes and super razor quick gamer reflexes 
rain nimbus
People lunar gives crit just like lmb does. Can't wait I'm whaling for first one in market
Purple**
Auto correct nonsense
odd dagger
theortical max , puncture cancels are the best.
But on a budget lb tab performs super good.
north burrow
u only hit 1.8 hs/tab when you do rb tab.
HS spam is 3.4 hs/s
It's mainly worth it when you're spamming your focus regen because sometimes max boost will drop from only RMB when you're weaving other skills in
little moat
north burrow
But yea after just a block RMB only is the play
rain nimbus
I've out damaged every hs bm I've ran into
merry prairie
hs?
little moat
heart stab
rain nimbus
Slasher
merry prairie
ahhaha
odd dagger
i still think pierce is a meme if that video of maria is how it usually performs
BDR was not up 50% of the fight
north burrow
Pierce is the skill cap build
rain nimbus
Was that not puncture
north burrow
Highest ceiling but also a pain
north burrow
It's better than puncture on paper
rain nimbus
Yeah I'm not using pierce
merry prairie
Pierce is "best" build
odd dagger
even with ceiling it realies heavily on blocking to proc vortex on cd when vortex itself has a 9 sec cd?