#BTA Accessory Mats (Stones, Vials, Steels)

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wanton pumice
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SUMMARY
Currently there is a huge issue with excess accessory mats. Lets make them BTA tradable, so people who put more effort or pay more into the game feel rewarded.

MAIN ISSUE
A lot of people including myself have thousands of accessory mats that are left unused, and often thrown away; which for some of us, we spent money on in the battle pass. Due to this issue, some may feel like their money is going to waste. We can't trade the materials, so we just toss them away. This would alleviate the stress of having to play multiple alt characters, and give us the chance to play classes we usually haven't been able to play because of lack of gear.

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS
We can make the mats tradable, and can provide them in a variety of ways. The following mats would be affected: Vials, bloodnight/vesper stones, battalion steel or praetorian steel.

  • Transmutable via transmute tab, utilizing BTA crystals (elysians, moonstones, etc).
  • Pay a small gold fee to transmute them into boxes with 25 accessory mats inside (much like the battlepass boxes screenshot below).
  • Automatically transmute bound crystals/vials to tradable ones after a new db with new-tier accessories comes out. For example, bloodnight crystals and batallion vials would have became BTA tradable once Twilight Forest came out. A way to help this would be allowing us to antique exchange them into the new BTA variant.
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    EVIDENCE/EXAMPLES__

    I'm providing screenshots of how many mats I have left over from vesper & bloodnight tier accessories, as well as what I envision the new mats could become (last screenshot).
weary musk
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Just making old tiers materials account bound sounds more easy

stable acorn
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totally need to make them account bound, making them tradeable is not needed

warm gorge
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but OP litterly wrote BTA Tradable ... It means Bound To Account Trade sleepy

stable acorn
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oh lol but why use material to make them account bound

weary musk
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then he should only write this one

Automatically convert to BTA crystals/vials after a new db with new-tier accessories comes out. For example, bloodnight crystals and batallion vials would have became BTA once Twilight Forest came out.
transmuting looks like too much work for what exactly?

vernal glen
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The closest thing to what he's asking for would be the old Transformation Stone Crystals and Premium Transformation Stone Crystal transmutes which were used for older tiers of gear.

That being said, even with a true neck making it so I only needed to max 5 accessories as opposed to 6, I didn't have full max Vesper accessories until a few days ago because of bad RNG, while having nearly 4 stacks of bloodnight material rotting in storage. While tradable would be over the top (as it would also crash the marketvalue of these and making them literal silver/copper costs with how many mats people could have), having previous tier materials be Bound to Account would be appreciated but also too much at the same time for people like me who farm a lot since we could max out several characters and "overtake the ranking ladder" that a lot of players seem to be worried about.

Another solution would make it something like a 25:1 ratio of previous tier to current tier transmuting (25 Battalion Steel becomes 1 Praetorian Steel, and 25 Blood Night Stone Crystal becomes 1 Vesper Stone Crystal, etc.), which again, would be nice to keep older material relevant, but would not solve the issue of players farming a lot like myself that could easily max out gear Day 1 of new content.

wanton pumice
# vernal glen The closest thing to what he's asking for would be the old Transformation Stone ...

While I do agree with this opinion making it easier for people to gear their alts to "take over rankings", I definitely feel like it is a matter of dedication to the game. Yes, it would end up ruining ranking ladders for some people. However, for the people that put more work/time or even have better RNG, they won't be affected as much; because of bottom row. While true, main accessories do provide a significant dps increase, your bottom row is what makes or breaks your dps/stustain. If you already have max-geared main, you typically would hoard resources for your main so that they can be max-tiered again the same day a new item comes out (I'm saving for the anklet/armlet coming out).

I think that this change would likely benefit the game, and allow for people who are max-gear (like myself), to be able to play at a lower level and teach other players the content, while also not having to wipe over and over again. Take Miggy's streams for example, because he is lower-geared on his alts, he has to make sure he plays perfectly or the entire fight is a wipe, and they have to repeat it. I think at least making the stones BTA, it would likely benefit the lower-geared players even more, because they would have people to actually run content with. However, people may disagree on this, and I'd be willing to hear out why!

wanton pumice
# stable acorn oh lol but why use material to make them account bound

It would still provide a way for BnS to regulate the ladder rankings because you wouldn't be able to trade your mats to one alt, max their accessories, then with the left overs start on another alt. You would be limited with how many of the BTA crystals (elysians, moonstones, etc) you have so it would make it a bit more balanced. Because I have some friends with almost 100k vesper stones left over from 1-tapping accessories and still doing 6mans to help me and my friends. If they were to get those vesper stones turned BTA with no limits, there would be an issue regarding rankings ladders because they would be able to do what I mentioned above; essentially having a ton of geared alts.

My intent with this change is to have like 1-3 decently geared alts by just playing on my main, and utilizing the left over resources. Because I have a few classes I've created, but have been unable to touch due to time constraints with work, school, and my social life. I would love to be able to play them, but doing multiple 6 mans a night to be able to play them, or buying multiple battle passes is almost out of the question for me.

My aim is to alleviate the stress of having to constantly play alt characters in order to gear them, but also providing a way for those who would like to play alt characters to be able to do so with not too much time investment.