#Ban players that sell “carry” runs

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slim violet
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  1. SUMMARY
    Please post a quick 1-2 sentence summary of your suggestion.
    Basically players are “selling” these “carries” that will let the person stay outside or die while the remaining players clear hard content. This goes against the sense of prestige and does not make it fair to players that do beat the content fair and square.

  2. MAIN ISSUE
    Please give us a detailed explanation on what your suggestion is and if there is any background information we need to know as well:
    These unskilled players that buy a “carry” don’t deserve this title and pretty much makes any title or outfit unrewarding. Nothing to be proud of as the unskilled players can just buy gold and get carried. Some have discords were players provide real money trading to “buy” runs. Some advertised ones are behind selling for gold but in fact they get invited to a discord to transfer real life money. This is unethical.

  3. POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS
    If you have any, please let us know any solutions you may have for the suggestion:
    Ban these sellers that are advertising with their “service” to carry players in exchange to gold or real life money. Have automation bots installed if an huge amount of gold is exchanged. If blade and soul allowed these carry runs, then there should have been an option for it but there isn’t one. This game is about players skill and not reward the unskilled players. Period.

  4. EVIDENCE/EXAMPLES
    If available, please share any pictures, videos, logs, or links with relevant information to help us understand your suggestion:
    Just watch live trade channel or the game chat on live server. Countless other discords that provide this aswell.

dapper escarp
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?

gray fern
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If I want to exchange my gold for doing content I will do so.

fast fern
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The only form of trade that is disallowed rn is RWT. In game things being traded for other in game things is a base aspect of trade. Why should a service be treated badly, and not someone selling mats or goods? 💀

slim violet
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KEK

polar valve
tired otter
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No.

harsh saddle
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they selling their effort whats wrong with that

honest stump
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'Ban players that complain about non-existing issues'
'Title.'

covert dome
slow lake
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Bad Take. There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling Carry runs. It benefits quite literally everyone.

pastel swan
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you dont have to buy runs, you can always find someone nice to carry you for free xd
try asking in faction chat

river dragon
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more like ban players who abuse 3 pluck bards to sell relic runs Smilers

jade willow
gray fern
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Plus even if it was banned, people would just arrange the transaction out of game anyways.

slim violet
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It doesnt make any sense whatsoever to ban this. I've come to the conclusion that Oda created this thread just for the lols

jagged oxide
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everything is legal besides offering real money trade.

vast warren
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i mean but selling raids and carry runs is 1 way of end game players making good money and pll that don't have the time for raid still get there items i believe is a good system no ?

tired otter
wind bay
slow lake
wind bay
jagged oxide
slow lake
manic kernel
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sell runs/carry/etc never been illegal/bannable offense just often related with rmt in any game

gray fern
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Indeed. But if I want to go 'okay I want x amount of runs for this, who wants gold for it', nothing should stop that

scarlet acorn
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People not advertising RMT aren't doing anything against rules 💀

Carry for gold/other in game currency/etc exists in every mmo ever

dense bay
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When your friends comes and discover to the game what do you do ? "do dungeons by yourself" or "ill carry you to help you to get on level with me so we can play together"

The difference is you don't ask your friends gold or anything But it remains carry...
Selling it... just add one point : Players A generates gold, and give it to you. if selling carry is not allowed, he wonet give you this gold he generated. amount of gold across the server is the same in both case...
If the gold transfer bother you, then back to your friend new to the game. you will help him giving him money and/or stuff-bags or whatever (which is indirectly... gold) so ... would be forbidden too right ?

visual spear
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I appreciate the discussion on this topic as I know it's something debated throughout our industry. I'll be upfront with our stance on this topic and then give some of my insights below if you care to read them.

Selling paid carries for Gold is not against our policy.
Buying paid carries for Gold is not against our policy.

We will **NOT ** moderate player to player trades through customer service, that involve the exchange of Gold for a Service. Please trade responsibly if you want to utilize player services.

The sale / trade of any item or service in-game for Real Money (RMT) is against our policy and will be banned if we see it, or if its reported to us.

Insights
I personally believe that paid carries/services are a benefit to the community. It allows dedicated users that can easily complete content to offer an optional service to users who can't complete content for different reasons. Those reasons can vary from skill issues to time constraints.

The counterpoints and concerns brought up are valid and we always try to think of ways to ensure our users can still feel a sense of prestige for many of our achievements in-game.

Paid carries are something I'll keep monitoring and I'm always open for discussions on topics like this, but as of now I'm comfortable with where they are at.

tired otter
jagged oxide
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@sinful bough Skill issues confirmed

worldly crater
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This is one of the worst suggestions I seen. Like every mmo allow this lol

slim violet
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bns_bursting, Oda is up to something

rain night
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oda maybe upset he can't pay for carries?

slim violet
slim violet
rain night
little thorn
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Imagine getting called out for skill issue by an admin bns_bursting

river dragon
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i mean its all and good, but if the services sellers are using sus methods to clear like unintended dmg or bug abuse giggle then i would say thats not ok

lavish island
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Based response from our admins.

dense bay
manic kernel
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exploiting and bug abuse falls into another category tho.. yeah people been abusing funny sword to sell orange scales 4 years ago their offense is abusing not selling, and u don't need any abuse/bug to carry demonsbane high floors tho.. just 3 whales

tired otter
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Altar / Nexus / Chimera / Abyssal throne is a good example bc we couldn't really cheat and we didnt use any pluck or kfm abuse at this moment for selling them we needed to do mech and just have a brain and ofc some dps.
if we compare to skysong who just got abuse with astro is something different and ofc bard pluck who was just brain dead who carry everything

honest stump
tired otter
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We didnt have WL in my team + useless in mech for boss and that was only for skip trash and not abuse the boss

honest stump
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My memory might be wrong, but I think Mr. Iwon’tnamehim summoned portals after killing the boss within a second 🤔 Dunno how it worked tho
So it was just go in -> wait for portal -> go out -> repeat

tired otter
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that was a glitch for trigger the boss or second boss for getting insta portal but not for kill it like godsword

manic kernel
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wasn't it already fixed on altar patch

tired otter
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that was on Chimera patch