#Technical Computer Building/Learning
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Do u live in uae?
yea
No wonder that currency is confusing
my is dihram
Hm... maybe?
The 580 is pretty far below the minimum requirement
720p maybe
That said, with Fsr set to performance it will probably still run at minimum
Imma pass away
Like, the 580 is like 40% slower than the 2060
That said, it runs on a steam deck. So I can see it running on a 580. Not well mind you, but it will probably run
Big sigh
And look ugly because fsr at performance on 1080p is just horrendous 
Lol
I don't really wanna spend 500 bucks tho n the 7700xt i can't find good deals for it
Very bad
You can always look at getting a used gpu
that gpu is that price over here in my country
Thats what I'm trying too but they usually sell used for double the price
Where would I get it? Best buy?
Well dang
Isn't best buy a store?
Like, idk where you can buy used things in the US
Ebay? Facebook marketplace?
Idk what else is over there
Oh right, I've seen some ads for jawa come by
Hm, nothing interesting on jawa it seems
yeah, get this one, beast at 1440p
i take that 6800xt
Thats a bid-
I wouldn't mind a 12gb
But id rather future proof it
N get a 16gb then never upgrade
Well, you'll still have to upgrade, just a little bit later
Yeah if they stop making 500 dollar 8gb gpus
scalper, cant do anything
even cheap 9070xt become less value if u buy with stupid price lol
Bids on this end in less than 24h
🤣 not this desperate
6800 is identical to the 3070 in terms of performance
🤣
And at 1440p and 4k it's equal to the 3070 Ti
Grabbing this for 300 or less would be a great deal @winter goblet
Imma wait for it to get 30 mins
Till the deadline n grab it if it doesn't go up
But idk cause someone could put down 300
How do u check if it's in good condition tho
Yeah, if the deadline is almost there and it's still below 300 you can put in a bid and hope for the best :P
Cause what if they took the gpu out?
Yep defff
You just have to trust the seller on their word I suppose
But they have good reviews
67 positive reviews
True true
26 of those for selling items
Wait when u say it's not as good as the 9070 r we talking about the speed of the card?
Cause there both 16gb but different prices so I'm alil confused
Huh
The gb's is the amount of memory a card has. It uses this to store data on the things it has to load. The more the better
Cards also have their own individual performance. It's like a cpu and ram. The cpu does the heavy work, the ram stores information the cpu can super quickly access
The gpu does all the heavy work and the vram stores the information is super quickly needs
Ohhhh okay but how r they different
When talking about performance of a gpu it's basically just the speed of the card, so how much fps it produces in a game
Sorry I'm slow to this pc stuff
So the card can have the same amount of memory but the speed that it processes at is different
?
hmm
Now the vram does influence this as well as more vram is beneficial for performance
As a the card can store more data and more easily continue doing hard work rather than having to wait on new data to be loaded into the storage
Basically
This is for example the average fps of various gpu's at 1080p over 25 different games
Now this is with a 9800X3D so with a weaker cpu you'll most likely see lower numbers, but it does give an indication of what kind of performance you can expect from a gpu
If i upgrade my cpu to a series 7 cpu imma have to swap my motherboard out sigh
So take the 4060 for example, it's a decently fast card, but the issue it has is that 8gb of vram is pretty limiting. With games getting more demanding it can very well be that in a few years time that 8gb will cause issues
What happens if your vram is full then the things the gpu super quickly wants to load, it suddenly has to load from your regular storage instead, which is really slow compared to vram. And that results in fps drops as it suddenly can't load something quickly
OHH no wonder my fps was dropping 😔. So what should I be looking at when I look at a gpu besides the vram.
What resolution did you play at again?
Because it's probably the 580 just being slow rather than the vram :P
a pretty sad case is the 3070
if it was 12gb or 16gb it would've blown the 6700xt out of the water
I can run games at 100+ fps high graphics super stable, but oopsie, vram is full, enjoy huge frame drops unless you turn your graphics all the way down to low lol
Uhh i dont really remember top of my head but 19-- x something
If they gave the 3070 12 or 16gb I could've continued using this card for years
1980 x some
Because it is so powerful, it can so easily run the latest games if it wasn't for that stupid vram
unless you're AMD in the 2010s and got high on HBM2 VRAM
1080p :)
Is there a way to fix a full gpu
You're most likely just looking at the 580 being too slow in newer games
Sighhhhh
Because 8gb of vram is still perfectly fine at 1080p
well technically 1080p is 1920x1080
Lowering your graphics settings will lower vram usage
texture details help too
Def yeah cause I mainly play minecraft or roblox or wuwa n it's fine on max graphics
Ah I see.....sigh alr
if you really want a stopgap, theres stupid cheap used 6700XTs for ~150 bucks or less
still quite a perf lift from the 580
Is 6700xt better then 6800
No
A good way to instantly get a performance indictor within a generation is by looking at the product name. The higher the number the better
Thought so 😭
Does xt just mean same model just faster and $50 bucks mors?
and then you got weird inbetween and obscure variants like 6750XT, 16GB VRAM versions of the xx60 series cards, 4070Ti Super (actually a 4080), 7900GRE and 7900 XTX
With AMD you often have number and then number + XT for a faster model. So with their current card it's 9070 and 9070 XT, the XT being a faster model
With nvidia there's Super and Ti, with Ti being faster than Super usually. So 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti, 4070 Ti Super
Amd does also have GRE cards which are like...
I don't really know how to describe GRE cards
They're just silly in between cards
originally chinese market exclusive but somehow gone global
GRE is a fun name though, Golden Rabbit Edition
So like, for example there is the RX 7800 XT, RX 7900 GRE, and then the RX 7900 XT
It's just a weird in between card
Wow 4090 still top 2 lol
I mean, of course it is
that gpu is like 18k dhs
It was the fastest gpu in the world before the 5090 came along lel
byeee
Is my spec good enough for inzoi
show ur task manager
ram not good
cpu is good
press control + shift + esc
Is this the right thing
go under performance
Wait so will I still be able to play
show me ur gpu
wait do I click on gpu
so I won’t be able to play at all
desktop
u need to upgrade
what do I upgrade too
gpu ram
how do I get more ram
and then I will be able to play
see here
yes
50 series is the new one
show this specs to pc tech guy he can help u
okay I will tysm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFzk45yOjkY also see this
Greetings, Creators!
We wanted to provide a clear and detailed breakdown of the system specifications needed to run inZOI and how they may impact your gameplay experience.
As such, we've categorized the system requirements into four tiers and provided the optimal settings for each.
Please check the announcement for more details.
Wishlist in...
np
but ask him for new series not old one
okay
watching rn
yep
but it is expensive just to let u know
How much
depends on parts
I will
oh wow wow
oops I’m literally glad I asked if my specs was good bc I would have been really mad if i couldn’t run the game when inzoi comes out
yea ofc
there are some people who were asking if they can run chrome book
i said heck no
😂
You should have been here in August during the create a zoi demo
LMAOOO CHROME BOOK
even i wasn't there
yep
i forgot about the game xd
I played it on my gaming laptop and it worked but I wanted a pc to play inzoi 😭😩
full upgrade
someone on TikTok was asking if it was going to be on Android or iPhone 😭😭
😭
Yes
yea
im not sure in ur region expensive or not its expensive
tbh idk I’m going to asap before inzoi comes out 💪
yep
don't be suprised when he says the prices
Today I saw the graphics for mininum requirements and omg it looks bad
LMAOOO HELP😭😭
yea its do do
medium looks blurry
recom to high best bet
I honestly didn't notice any difference
yea
See nvidia if you don't fill the map with puddles your 6grand cards are worthless
Both are fine, the 9600X is faster though
Alright
Mobo: MSI B650M Gaming Wifi
CPU: R5 9600X
RAM: Kingston Fury Beast RGB 2x16GB DDR5 5200MHz
PSU: Deepcool PN750M 750W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular
Storage: XPG Gammix 1TB M.2 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte RX9070XT Gaming OC 16G
Case: Tecware VX Prism M TG
Case Fan: Slevflow Vortex Max ARGB (Full Case Fan)
Air Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB
The price for this pc is about 1750dollar, is it overprice or good enough
I can trade in with my old pc for 450dollar 🗿
Usd? Where do you live?
Im from malaysia, but i convert it to usd
Guys will an intel core Ultra 7 265KF run InZOi? :/ I didn’t see it on the requirements picture so I’m not sure??? Does anyone know?
For malaysia currency it will be RM7750
I don't know what pricing is really like in malaysia, but it sounds very overpriced
Yes, you're fine
I can only really base it on EU / US prices and there a system like that would be more around $1300-$1400
It could be that the price is fine, but it's hard to say when I don't know what kind of prices are normal there for computer stuff :P
i heard that cpu has instability
very bad than 14 gen lol
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more price than performance
it has become for intel core
glad didn't buy it
i have a coworker with a dead inside sticker on his cubicle
I see..
Will i5 12400 and rtx3060 ti is enough to play Inzoi on recommended settings with 1080p ?
I think you'll be looking at a mix of medium / high as you're right in between medium and recommended
also we have dlss, so just wait when game released first
alrightt
Well… I guess I just wait? @viscid torrent Since you said it can take awhile
Never mind… sigh
You could try resetting your bios
Maybe there's some memory OC setting still enabled somewhere that causes issues
There should be a section in the manual somewhere on how to reset the bios / clear the cmos
It doesn’t even boot to BIOS
Guess I have to slot in an old 16 GB to reset it
@viscid torrent It’s not the A2 slot
I just want to make sure before I buy this product, please if anyone knows, will this be able to run inZOI on max settings? The 8GB on the graphics card kinda worries me lol? Not sure if that’s good or not.
Can you go to advanced mode and then to wherever the memory stuff is located?
Max settings? No
And an i9-14900F is also not a smart purchase, the cpu has a lot of stability issues
The manual is a bit useless for the BIOS
I think memory things are either under ai tweaker or advanced
80 percent of the chops has been returned
So what should I be looking for? As far as a processor?
amd
MD RYZEN 7 9800X3D
I will quickly finish my current work, I'll be back in like 10 mins 
enable xmp profile
That’s what caused crashes to my system last time
really
dang
did u overlock or what
Mhm the issues have since stopped
Yeah it overclocked
stick with the speed ram has given
don't go beyond
thats what i did with my ram sticking with 6000mhz
This is okay?
looks g ood
not fan amd gpu
cpu is good
everything looks good
but my advice to u go to pc store build it there
some of the motherboard is brick
Can I stick two different sticks into the motherboard? 1 16GB, 1 32 GB
not to upgrade
if it is same stick
then yes
… So same size and speed?
yea
Hmm…
No… because currently my 32GB sticks don’t even go to BIOS
this is my
My old 16 GB are fine
ah ok
Same frequency, everything
my best bet is u go to pc store and do it
Only difference is size
There are no PC stores… nearby anyway
lmao
then be careful
if u not going
I am… that’s why I am not randomly sticking memory sticks in
And trying to troubleshoot
Alright, I'm back
Yes, your ram won;t run in dual channel though
The dram frequency in the ai tweaker section, what other options do you have besides auto?
Gimme a sec, lemme see
@viscid torrent uhhh a lot
Starting from 800 MHz to 13333 MHz
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-slate-gaming-desktop-pc-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-amd-radeon-rx-7800xt-16gb-32gb-ddr5-rgb-ram-2tb-nvme-black/6601768.p?skuId=6601768 This is a better deal
Some are grayed out tho
But not 5600 MHz
Try setting it to 4800
Its most likely gonna hit tha $400
Okay
Because maybe when it's set to auto it's trying to set it too high
Just have to wait and see I suppose :P
I know nothing about AMD products. I’ve always been intel and Nvidia. Will that run InZOi on max? I’m looking for like a very good computer and I know nothing about AMD
don't be in hurry
Well the 16 GB Stick boots to BIOS still… time to try the 32 again
yea im intel and nvidia
as well
but amd is good for gaming
intel for productivity
but intel has lot of issues with their chips
so not good idea to get intel rn
As long as the game isn't out it's difficult to say, also because they didn't really list the expected resolution for the requirements they shared yesterday. At 1080p it should run inzoi easily at high and maybe at max
Depends on the productivity, plenty of tasks in which amd is also faster
amd is also good right for rendering
but has less cores
The 32gb sticks are 5600 right? It might be that with it set to auto it tries to run them at that speed and it just wont work
Yeah… and it booted to BIOS
I just want sun good before inzoi comes out
@viscid torrent one last Q… should I enable XMP?
You could try
What are your boot settings? Maybe something is wrong there since it sends you into the bios rather than windows
not good idea
just for one game
Oh, no. That is me actively going into BIOS
I pressed the key on startup
Oh, ok ok
Alright, in that case, keep xmp disabled and see if it boots into windows with the ram set to 4800
Okay
no i know that
i just want a gpu that i wont have to change for a while
think long term
not short term
inzoi just a game
thats what im saying
yea
if i get that gpu i wont have to upgrade for abit
yep
Boots perfectly
Alright, keep the settings the same and try it with the other sticks added as well
already done. the 32x2 works
Alright, you could try changing it from 4800 to 5200 then
If that doesnt work then it just means it can't handle the higher speed at that memory capacity
Or you could try enabling xmp to see if that works
As xmp is optimized
But it also could run into the same issue of just being too much for the memory controller to handle
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Which one would be the best pick??
They're both not really good picks
Eh... does it really matter in the long run?
The desktop is a lot faster though
It will give you a bit of a performance uplift, but it's not like it'll magically double your fps or something :P You're looking at like a 1/2/3% difference maybe
So if you want you can just leave it at 4800
i will just play it safe. Am not a minmaxer
AMD benefits more from faster memory
Why?
no wonder xmp not working
They're just too expensive for the performance they offer
@heady quail For the same price as that desktop you can get something like this https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002N-000D2?Item=9SIB5FPKE23429 which offers much better performance
And if you'd rather have a laptop, https://www.amazon.com/HP-Premium-i7-1355U-GeForce-Windows/dp/B0D3WMW8MC?th=1 this will perform practically almost the same as the Asus laptop
Is a Ryzen 9 9950X3D good?
I’m trying to go above the requirements for InZOi lol
9950X3D is the fastest gaming cpu in existence atm
The requirements they have listed are weird though because the cpu's listed at lower requirements beat cpu's listed for higher requirements, it makes no sense 
It's also really expensive 
yea its good
2365 dhs
with mother board 700 dhs
3k
yep
💀
very good
good for rendering as well 16 cores
😭
im still with my intel i712700
Okay I guess I’ll go for that lol. I’m trying to find one with that and a nvidia graphics card
12 cores only
check the price first lol
before buying
If all you're going to do is game, don't do it, it's not worth it 
You're spending hundreds of dollars on getting like 1 extra fps
Hello, I have a question
Ask ahead ^^
I seen on the videos posted about the specs, for the recommended requirements I got the AMD Ryzen 7 7700 8core, will it still run as the recommended specs
but that cpu good for both right
And for the graphics I got the XFX Speedster SWFT210 Radeon RX 7600XT
Oh easily, it's above recommended
7600 XT is in between medium and recommended. So you're fine with playing on medium settings, maybe a mix of medium and high
I hope my computer pc can run the game good because I be having problems playing games like they never load or freezes
Oh okay, thanksss 🫶🏼
What games do you have these issues with? And what resolution are you playing on?
good lord
Yea
It wasn’t me who build it
I will change it and try again, thanks for letting me know
Did someone build it for you or did you get it at a store? You can always ask them to help as well, because your pc is more than powerful enough to run most games without any issues
It shouldn't freeze or stuff like that with games like roblox etc
If you have a constrained budget, spend more on your GPU. Save $200-$250 and get a 9800X3D. Gaming wise it performs the same, and more power efficient in gaming. If you also need to do multi-threaded workloads like rendering or compiling code, the 9950X3D is faster but as power efficient as the 9800X3D. Gaming wise though, only a select few games run better on the 9950X3D due to the larger cache, and I highly highly doubt inZOI would be one of them.
TLDR; 9800X3D is $480, while the 9950X3D is about $700. They perform the same in gaming. Get the 9800X3D.
Or even a 7800X3D if it cheaper as that also almost performs the same as a 9800X3D 
Which one will be able to run the game
I got lots of updates to do 😭
Both
The second one is high the first is recommended i believe
From what Techpowerup is showing from their charts the 7700S is about 30% faster than the 4060 Mobile
Thanks guys I only play sims & inzio so which one do u think would be good for me ?
The second one
It depends on the price. How much does the 2nd one cost
Second 1 a thousand other one 750 I believe
My advice to you. Inzoi will be taking most of that space. If you're going to play both games then get the second one
I believe the 7700S and 4060 Mobile are kind of on par no?
The site is probably not accurate. I just use it for quick comparisons
I got my back up laptop for sims the new laptop will only be for inzio
Getting gta 6 on my Xbox
AFAIK from the specs shown:
13620H is slightly better than the 7735H. (Around 5% difference, but the 7735H is much more power efficient)
4060 Laptop is on par with the 7735H.
Both RAM and Storage can be upgraded for LESS THAN THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.
Is there a specific reason why you are getting a laptop?
Techpowerup doesn't really do mobile benchmarks as far as I'm aware. So not sure that's the best source for laptop performance
I’m just getting it to play inzoi that’s it lol
I mean, why get a laptop over a desktop
A laptop is easier to carry around
@sinful crystal what's the price of the Gigabyte laptop?
If you need a laptop for portability, I'd probably recommend the 1st one purely because of the 7735H being more power efficient. You'd have a bigger battery life.
Bc I drive otr & like to play when I’m not home
Will you have it plugged in all the time?
Not really bc I play when I go to a hotel
& if get a desktop I won’t really get to play like that
Tbh, I really don't recommend laptops for gaming on the go literally because of battery life. Most laptops on medium to high end games only run around like 2 - 3 hours on battery.
InZOI will require an internet connection to play regardless. Is there an option for you to keep a desktop at home on, with remote software like Parsec, and you can use an internet connection to remote in? That way you can use your old laptop, remote to your desktop, and play with better performance.
That's how I game on the go
1049
That way I don't need to run the game on my laptop and sacrifice battery life
Take a look at this and see if this could work for you?
I didn’t kno we have to keep Internet @ all time 😩
Yeah, get the Asus laptop, you can upgrade the memory and add additional storage and it will still be cheaper than the Gigabyte laptop
Yeah it says in the specs sheet that an internet connection is required
It's probably for downloading textures I'd assume?
Okay finna get that & it’s save me money !
Hotels usually offer free internet (at least in my area)
Yes & also I got portable hotspot on my phone
Yeah, and in that case they could use their old laptop, buy a desktop, and use remote software to connect to their desktop. That way they not only have more battery life, they can save money and get better performance. But I get not everyone wants to do that
Yea one of my friends did, I will try now and let you know if it works
So just connect the monitor to the motherboard?
If you have a GPU, you connect it to the GPU.
No
You connect it to the gpu :)
Hold on I will show you how I have it
If you connect it to the motherboard then it'll use the internal gpu of the processor, which basically won't give you much performance in games :P
Alright alright ^^
Whenever games freeze or crash do they show an error?
Yes, like after a few minutes and sometimes I have to restart the whole pc
Like for example Roblox stays in a white screen and then the whole pc freezes and for the sims it also do the same thing meanwhile the background music playing
But for anything else it works good, is just the games
You do have Radeon Adrenaline installed?
I just put it like that so I can take the picture
Yea
No
Yeah, there's your problem you have your monitor plugged into your motherboard so it's using the onboard graphics rather than your graphics card
@limpid helm plug your monitor into one of those ports
Also download this https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/adrenalin.html
it's software for your graphics card to work properly :)
Without it your graphics card doesn't really understand what it's supposed to do :P
ouuuuu oki

Whoever built your PC you need to get your money back
there is no shot they built it and then not downloaded any of the drivers or helped guide you through the issues you were having
Whoever built it also didn't put in the IO shield
🤦♂️
They said it was a friend so I guess it was assembled for free :P
it better have been
But yeah, your friend should probably watch some more tutorials
I charge everyone $50 per unit built which is half to 3x as cheap as some other people in my area and i give tech support for a week after...
Also the missing pcie bracket :^)
bruh where is the protection

I'm worried about the fan orientation if this is how sloppy the build is
Imagine every fan is an intake or exhaust
I assume they probably didn't install any extra fans
That actually makes more sense
But who knows :^)
It seems to be a 4000D so there's not really any real need for extra fans
The exhaust on the back is oriented correctly so I'd assume whoever built it just left the stock ones in
This review focuses on whether it is worth upgrading from a 7800 XT to a 9070 XT and factors in both an MSRP analysis as well as more real-world pricing (at the time of filming). It also looks at RT on vs Off and FSR 3 vs FSR 4.
Buy an RX 7800 XT: https://amzn.to/41Ys78W
Buy an RX 9070 XT: https://amzn.to/420Ehy7
Test system specs (ResizeBAR/SA...
9070XT is 20-30% faster raster, 40-60% faster RT than the 7800XT depending on the title for $60 more in price...
If you can get a 9070 XT at MSRP, there is literally no reason to get any other card.
Even above msrp it's still one of the best cards to get atm :v
The 9070XT is literally what Nvidia said the 5070 would be compared to the 4090, but AMD actually made their 9070XT as fast as last gen flagship (Even faster in RT).
But I guess the 5070 Ti is a closer comparison, but even then the 5070 Ti doesn't even come close to the 4090
And with an undervolt and overclock it's super insane 
If they had a 9070 XT 32GB edition I'd buy it

The only reason I won't is cause I already have a 7900 XTX
RT performance boost only isn't enough to convince me to downgrade by 8 GB of VRAM
This is promising though
If they release an enthusiast level card next generation it'll probably equal Nvidia's next gen flagship looking at how AMD's progressing
I'd rather see them invest everything they have into midrange
Because I, and most gamers, don't really care about the high end stuff anyways 
I did pay him because when I did put everything together the pc wasn’t turning on so he helped me and rebuild it, meanwhile it was the ram that wasn’t working
Well, he did an awful job at it unfortunately :(
I don't disagree, but the reason why Nvidia has so much market share is because they have the ability to claim that they are "THE BEST", and have been for decades. If AMD can come out and be like "We are now as good as Nvidia for less price!" they will storm them.
No I only have the two fans that came with the case, but I soon will buy more so when I play inzoi it doesn’t get too hot
Well they kind of have now by basically making the 5070 and 5070 Ti dead on arrival
motherboard protection
u need
backside
You don't need it
They don't "Need" it
But it does look better
It's a visual thing
dust op
But thanks to you guys I get to solve the problem
Any case will get dust. Just clean it.
If dust was that big of an issue case manufacturers would cover every single damn hole on the case except for the fan openings
my case has protection covers
But they don't because it isn't
nzxt 💪
Like, I think this is the first time where I've seen every single person in existence call AMD's offering outright better than the xx70 cards
Depends, a lot of NZXT products are high quality at a competitive price
Yea mine be getting dust sometimes but I always clean the things that covers the power supply and the fans
Mine has those but not where that monitor is plugged in
Nah I really don't think so. Their cases are the best part of their business, but their cases are about as good as every other reputable case manufacturer. Plus there isn't much wrong you can get with a case.
Meanwhile, their AIOs are overpriced, Motherboards are overpriced, scammed kids and ignorant parents with their rental PC business... etc etc
ah
man who build ur pc
should get fired
Their psu's are some of the best on the market atm
like my 
Their prices are not very competitive...
They are extremely competitive lol
nzxt 850 w
This is the case I have
c
My 1200W superflower I got for $130
this is my
atx is good
This one looks good but its also on sale
That doesn't mean much
Yeah but it says nothing about quality
Okii thanks
Brand reputation says a lot about quality
Super Flower is an OEM thats been in business for decades
NZXT has been shady as hell
Regardless I don't want to support a company that does shady business practices regardless if they have good products
Anyways, as I said, NZXT's entire PSU lineup is objectively one of the best on the market at the moment and also priced extremely competitively
I would like to do that as well, but then I can't have a pc unfortunately as almost all companies suck ass :(
This is probably not the best analogy but would you buy a Shein shirt if they were good quality but made by sweatshops? 
NZXT's rental PC business literally profited off of ignorance and children so I can't see how much different that is
And there are equally as good options
it was 570 dhs my psu

expensive af
2025 model
But yeah, my NZXT psu I bought before everything got exposed. My NZXT case I bought after because there simply was nothing else that offered the same appearance
So oh well
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Everything here is similarly priced
NZXT's only platinum PSU is over $100-$150 more than SF's options LOL
I mean, that's cool and all, but it doesn't change the fact that NZXT's psu's are good
They might not always be the best purchase
yep
But most of the time the C850, C1000, and C1200 are
my c850
That's like recommending the 5090 over every other GPU because its the best
No
Objectively sure, the 5090 is the best, but you wouldn't recommend it over something else
That's not what I'm saying
missing rops melting cables yep
he is saying something else
Marketing to and scamming children yep
Good isn't one metric
Just like how whether a GPU is good or not isn't just its performance
The C1500 at 350 is not really competitive no. But the C850, C1000, and C1200 are extremely competitively priced
But my point is why buy or recommend someone to buy it when its only competitively priced?
You're missing the point
So you're saying regardless of anything else, because they are good and competitively priced they are just good?
I would recommend the C850, C1000, and C1200 because they are objectively some of the best performing PSU's on the market and within a competitive price bracket. it's difficult to find something that has better value / performance per dollar / some other description for that
I hope this explains it better
Yeah, so you're saying because they are good, and their prices are good, nothing else matters and therefore that's why you recommend them?
That's just what I said
Wha
"I would recommend the C850, C1000, and C1200 because they are objectively some of the best performing PSU's on the market and within a competitive price bracket"
I don't really get what you're trying to say or get at here
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NZXT is not a good company, regardless of how good their products are, therefore I don't recommend them.
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Your second statement about not being able to find something of better or similar value is just not necessarily true.
Hello i want to ask something , can i run it with gpu 1660ti 6 gb , cpu ryzen 5 2600 ( i will change it to ryzen 7 5800x) and 16 gb ram at least at very low :/
You're twisting my words, I never said it's not possible to find something better or similar
I just said that it's difficult finding something that's better value
I took 5 minutes and went to one of the most well-known OEMs in the PSU market and found literally better priced PSUs.
The issue with a company not being good and therefor not recommending their products is pretty awkward though because it means that a lot of companies are no longer valid recommendation options :/
How do I know if I have a thunderbolt port on my laptop?
Except for the 1300W model, they're all worse price though
So I don't really know what you're trying to get at
whats ur psu watt ?
WHO STILL USING CHROME BOOK?? it should be for only work business laptop
I guess the closest competitors to the C850 would be the Corsair RM850x ATX 3.1 and XPG Core Reactor II. The Corsair being more expensive and the XPG being a step down in quality
SF has great psu's, but compared to the C850 they're just way too expensive
yea they gone mad
i had Corsair 850 and it busted 6800 XT
:/
it was smoking but the case looks fine
mobo didnt go smoke
surprisingly just only psu and gpu went on fire
my old 700w got damaged so i upgraded 850w c nzxt its so good
You'l probably be fine at low / minimum yeah
my case is razer 😂
lian li
my is nzxt
off thats good even with ryzen 5 2600?
But yeah, if we decide to no longer recommend products because a company sucks, then it's also goodbye to Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI for awful business practices, goodbye to Nvidia and AMD for anti consumerism, the list goes on
Probably yeah
ok ty
MSI was caught scalping their own GPU's on ebay
Gigabyte has delivered motherboards with serious security issues. Refusing to repair gpu's over design / pdoruction flaws on their part. And selling exploding PSU's and then proceeding to downplay it as nothing serious
wth thats bad
Asus has on so so so many occasions been caught refusing to repair or uphold warranty
ROG part of ASUS are still good?
they're the same thing
geez
So yeah, simply not recommending a company based on their business practices is rough, as almost every company out there just sucks in one way or another
So I'll keep recommending products and whether someone is fine with buying from a certain brand or not, I'll leave that up to them
Because I'm not your moral compass
lol
Hello guys soo here i Just wanna confirm if my laptop can run Inzoi for sure
My laptop specs are:
i7-14650HX
RTX 4060
32GB RAM
1tb NVMe
not sure if my current mobo will compatiable with newer gpu
What model is it?
HP Omen 16
if you want AI on $2000 get one of those sketchy VRAM upgrade cards
lol
Yeah, you're good ^^
no way lol
Thanks Waffle!
there are people modding old nvidia 2080s and soldering more VRAM onto them
interesting
Don't use this site, it's pretty pointless
oohh~ Noice
it's like the absolutely cheapest way to do local inference
awww lol
4060 is slower than a 3070, and a laptop 4060 is even slower
You're around medium requirements @wicked rock so you can easily run the game
i guess gotta wait for gtx 4060 gamers to test if they prove us wrong lol
make sure turn motion blur off setting
Is it bcz have different TDP right?
Your 4060 runs at a high tdp, but a laptop 4060 is simply a different gpu than a desktop one
ooh okay note that
Buy EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming Graphic Card, Black at Walmart.com
Nope
should be able to, its a little bit better than the rtx 2060
the 6800xt still better though unfortunately
yeah ive test inzoi demo with 1080 ti and can run minimum setting
lol nice naruto toys
the inZOI USB Drive
@viscid torrent like that?
💀
What in the world
Why is the WiFi adapter into fan

If u have one monitor that port is in display port that's correct
Where else do they go?
Usb port
Yea I only have one monitor
So for now I’m good?
In ur monitor
I’m going to do the other step
Let me check
Ok
180hz
Is an intel core i7 14700KF better than an I9 12900KF? Does anyone know?
But when I turn it on it shows only 60hz
Good
Go to control panel
Nvidia
Change settings
Right click
Change it
But I won't recom 14 gen it has instability issues
Maybe check reddit
And also check display settings on pc
What is ur gpu
The 7600 one
@viscid torrent help him
I downloaded it already
Just install
Yea
Yes, exactly ^^
As said, just installing it is good :)
Great
For the control panel where do I go
Yea ik, I mean like where do I got to fix the hz thing
Ok I’m in
Ok got it
Then scroll again change hz
Yes yes
Yea
Nah
It's good
Reposne rate
No no, it will make everything look smoother :)
Less stuttery
Ouiiii okay lol
I'm glad u realised it
Radeon Adrenalin is installed as well now?
I can open the game thru the Adrenalin right?
Yes
It worked!!
You can just launch games on your desktop, through steam, etc, all is fine
Thank you so so much🫶🏼I really appreciate it
I was all worried I wouldn’t be able to play inzoi

Remind me of my friend that play 60hz for 2 years, he had 240hz 🤣
Hello everyone, I'm not sure if this channel is the correct one. I would like to know if I need an Nvidia RTX 5000 series to be able to use the Smart Zoi? Could the new AMD GPUs -> RX 9070 and RX 9070 XT also be used?
From what is currently known smart zoi should work on any gpu
I imagine we'll probbaly get more info on it soon, and otherwise we'll know once the game releases
Smart zoi is a ai model so most likely it will use a lot of vram
So anything over 8 gb of vram would probably be needed
I'm glad using 12 gb
Vram
Give it
I was of the opinion that only the latest cards from Nvidia can use the feature because they work with AI. I was under the impression that Krafton had a deal with Nvidia (Nvidia Exclusive -> Smart Zoi) well, let's see.
Thank you very much for your time to answer me
It's an SLM
In Mecha Break the model supposedly only uses 2GB
I woukd assume this would use more since it’s a new technology and it’s from nvidia
Yeah but it's and SLM, it's tiny
I found something here...
Basically what I said :v
All that said, until we have more in depth details we just don't really know for certain how it will work :(
Ok, that's rather clear then. Unless AMD has something similar up its sleeve, Nvidia is the only manufacturer that covers this feature.
As I understand it, ACE is only available for Nvidia cards
I forgot but what was the last new technology amd made ? Without just copying nvidia
It works for both and intel and nvidia
No, it's available on any GPU
Or it should be at least, based on everything known about ACE so far
It's made by nvidia yes, but it's not exclusive
💀
Hey guys,
Quick question. So is the 4060 mobile closer in performance to the 3060? With dlss enabled is the 4060 closer to the 3070 ? Or more in-between the 3060 and 3070? I noticed it wasn't on the new specs comparisons list just 2060, 3060, 3070 and 4080.
At 100w+ TGP the laptop 4060 is close to the desktop 3060
I have a question
Oh wow ok. Even with dlss enabled?
I mean, that won't change anything because the 3060 also has dlss, so performance will stay equal
My computer which I'm guessing is the inspiron 5680 and I brought a high graphics card and it compatible with it but the processor itself probably not compatible with the motherboard of my computer, do you guys think it will fit?
That's true that's true. I forgot about that lol.
If you turn dlss on on the 4060 to get better performance. But then you just turn it on on the 3060 and its just the same as before again 
I'm not sure what you're trying to say
Sorry :(
Lol I see what you mean. That makes total sense thankyou for answering my question. Well I might upgrade soon but hey those medium settings aren't looking too bad on the video they showed earlier so should be fine until then
Will my processor be compatible with that computer model motherboard?
It 5800x that I got for the processor
What is the exact model of your pc?
Inspiron 5680
Yeah which one, there seem to be multiple
2019
i think he means this
Yes
dell wow never see this for a long time since 2000
Alright, because the Inspiron 5680 has 8th gen Intel from what I can find
Had it for 6 years im guessing
So... are you sure you have a 5680?
If im honest im guessing that the model cause that 100 percent what my pc look like and have those specs
You have a 2700X? Right
Yes
The 5800X you bought is only going to work if Dell has a bios update available that supports it
Yea it should have the bios update on my pc
It seems like you have an Inspiron 5676
uh
Yeah, seems like you need a new motherboard
Man I got to wait for my computer after it installments but would the processor work? Oh
Dell does not provide any updates
Your motherboard supports the 5800X with an update. But Dell doesn't offer that
Yea guess I have to sell that processor then
Probably because they'd rather have you throw away your pc and buy a new one from them 😔
I could replace the mother board right
no wonder when your parents buy you 1st dell computer, you'll never know that dell pc cant upgrade anything as a kid/teen 😭
I did wanted it and I still care for it, the graphic card i got works with it 100 percent but guess I could do another processor for my pc
I think you might be able to? It looks like a normal sized motherboard
Which motherboard should I get then?
interesting, never knew lol
The issue is mainly whether the holes for the screws line up with regular motherboards
Since the dell board is definitively some sort of proprietary board
I got to see which motherboard to get then
Ah yeah, it seems like regular motherboards wont fit in the case
The power button also can't be connected to regular motherboards
I guess I'm actually selling the processor after all
So you'd have to create new power button wiring yourself
I have no idea how to do that I might just see if best buy handle that
Basically, in classic Dell fashion, your pc is basically not upgradable
Why does Dell always have to be like this :(
Im lucky my mom picked the Omen 35l cus it’s upgradable 🫠
lucky my first computer was fat dell
.
Ok it actually 5680 but I don't think it do much difference now but I do see why no one gets dell
Oop
Pfft
Even if Dell supported upgrading and software updates, you wouldn't be able to put a 5800X in an Inspiron 5680
As an amd cpu isn't going to fit in an intel motherboard :P
Oof for me
try figure when its released
:0
Crazy thing I wasn’t even born
:3
you werent here in 2000s?
bro didnt rven born yet!
oof
hahahah
we all touch grass alot before phones addictions
I love the year I was born if I wasn’t born that year I wouldn’t have met my friends :3
and pcs come first
good time
but it was just adobe flash games
also we have cdrom back then
LOOOL
now all digital
Oh
Well sad for my processor but the graphic card is good, is their a more higher compatible processor for the 5680 then?

