#Technical Computer Building/Learning

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frail island
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yea its like 3k to 5 k dhs

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good luck with that

winter goblet
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Do u live in uae?

frail island
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yea

winter goblet
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No wonder that currency is confusing

frail island
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my is dihram

winter goblet
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Its $500 where am at 😭

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But w/o the upgrade i can only run minimum right?

viscid torrent
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Hm... maybe?

viscid torrent
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The 580 is pretty far below the minimum requirement

rare scarab
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720p maybe

winter goblet
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Its 8gb

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Sigh

viscid torrent
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That said, with Fsr set to performance it will probably still run at minimum

winter goblet
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Imma pass away

viscid torrent
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Like, the 580 is like 40% slower than the 2060

rare scarab
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💀

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its okay, after u upgrade u can play all day

viscid torrent
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That said, it runs on a steam deck. So I can see it running on a 580. Not well mind you, but it will probably run

winter goblet
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Big sigh

viscid torrent
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And look ugly because fsr at performance on 1080p is just horrendous chuukek

frail island
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Lol

winter goblet
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I don't really wanna spend 500 bucks tho n the 7700xt i can't find good deals for it

frail island
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Very bad

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rare scarab
winter goblet
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Thats what I'm trying too but they usually sell used for double the price

winter goblet
winter goblet
viscid torrent
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Isn't best buy a store?

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Like, idk where you can buy used things in the US

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Ebay? Facebook marketplace?

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Idk what else is over there

rare scarab
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try jawa

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i forgot the full name

viscid torrent
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Oh right, I've seen some ads for jawa come by

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Hm, nothing interesting on jawa it seems

winter goblet
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I can try Walmart too

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rare scarab
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yeah, get this one, beast at 1440p

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rare scarab
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i take that 6800xt

winter goblet
viscid torrent
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Correct

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It indeed is

winter goblet
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I might not even be able to win

viscid torrent
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Can always try

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2080 Ti for 300 or less would also be a very interesting option

rare scarab
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thats my gpu, when i bought on pandemic

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6800xt

winter goblet
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I wouldn't mind a 12gb

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But id rather future proof it

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N get a 16gb then never upgrade

viscid torrent
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Well, you'll still have to upgrade, just a little bit later

winter goblet
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Yeah if they stop making 500 dollar 8gb gpus

rare scarab
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even cheap 9070xt become less value if u buy with stupid price lol

winter goblet
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I could always

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Get a job at micro center

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N get 15%off

viscid torrent
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Bids on this end in less than 24h

rare scarab
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6800 is identical to the 3070 in terms of performance

rare scarab
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And at 1440p and 4k it's equal to the 3070 Ti

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winter goblet
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Imma wait for it to get 30 mins

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Till the deadline n grab it if it doesn't go up

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But idk cause someone could put down 300

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How do u check if it's in good condition tho

viscid torrent
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Yeah, if the deadline is almost there and it's still below 300 you can put in a bid and hope for the best :P

winter goblet
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Cause what if they took the gpu out?

viscid torrent
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You just have to trust the seller on their word I suppose

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But they have good reviews

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67 positive reviews

winter goblet
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True true

viscid torrent
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26 of those for selling items

winter goblet
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Wait when u say it's not as good as the 9070 r we talking about the speed of the card?

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Cause there both 16gb but different prices so I'm alil confused

viscid torrent
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Huh

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The gb's is the amount of memory a card has. It uses this to store data on the things it has to load. The more the better

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Cards also have their own individual performance. It's like a cpu and ram. The cpu does the heavy work, the ram stores information the cpu can super quickly access

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The gpu does all the heavy work and the vram stores the information is super quickly needs

winter goblet
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Ohhhh okay but how r they different

viscid torrent
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When talking about performance of a gpu it's basically just the speed of the card, so how much fps it produces in a game

winter goblet
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Sorry I'm slow to this pc stuff

winter goblet
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?

frail island
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hmm

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Now the vram does influence this as well as more vram is beneficial for performance

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As a the card can store more data and more easily continue doing hard work rather than having to wait on new data to be loaded into the storage

viscid torrent
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This is for example the average fps of various gpu's at 1080p over 25 different games

winter goblet
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Ohhhhhh

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Ts makes so much more sense 😭😭

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Tysm

viscid torrent
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Now this is with a 9800X3D so with a weaker cpu you'll most likely see lower numbers, but it does give an indication of what kind of performance you can expect from a gpu

winter goblet
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If i upgrade my cpu to a series 7 cpu imma have to swap my motherboard out sigh

viscid torrent
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So take the 4060 for example, it's a decently fast card, but the issue it has is that 8gb of vram is pretty limiting. With games getting more demanding it can very well be that in a few years time that 8gb will cause issues

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What happens if your vram is full then the things the gpu super quickly wants to load, it suddenly has to load from your regular storage instead, which is really slow compared to vram. And that results in fps drops as it suddenly can't load something quickly

winter goblet
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OHH no wonder my fps was dropping 😔. So what should I be looking at when I look at a gpu besides the vram.

viscid torrent
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What resolution did you play at again?

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Because it's probably the 580 just being slow rather than the vram :P

viscid torrent
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It is

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It's held back so much by the 8gb of vram

slow oxide
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if it was 12gb or 16gb it would've blown the 6700xt out of the water

viscid torrent
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I can run games at 100+ fps high graphics super stable, but oopsie, vram is full, enjoy huge frame drops unless you turn your graphics all the way down to low lol

winter goblet
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If they gave the 3070 12 or 16gb I could've continued using this card for years

winter goblet
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1980 x some

viscid torrent
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Because it is so powerful, it can so easily run the latest games if it wasn't for that stupid vram

slow oxide
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winter goblet
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You're most likely just looking at the 580 being too slow in newer games

winter goblet
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Because 8gb of vram is still perfectly fine at 1080p

slow oxide
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well technically 1080p is 1920x1080

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slow oxide
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texture details help too

winter goblet
winter goblet
slow oxide
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if you really want a stopgap, theres stupid cheap used 6700XTs for ~150 bucks or less

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still quite a perf lift from the 580

winter goblet
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Is 6700xt better then 6800

viscid torrent
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No

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A good way to instantly get a performance indictor within a generation is by looking at the product name. The higher the number the better

winter goblet
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Thought so 😭

viscid torrent
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So 6900 XT > 6800 XT > 6700 XT

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Or RTX 5080 > 5070 > 5060

winter goblet
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Does xt just mean same model just faster and $50 bucks mors?

slow oxide
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With AMD you often have number and then number + XT for a faster model. So with their current card it's 9070 and 9070 XT, the XT being a faster model
With nvidia there's Super and Ti, with Ti being faster than Super usually. So 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti, 4070 Ti Super

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Amd does also have GRE cards which are like...

slow oxide
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oh and the LHR RTX cards

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low hash rate aka anti crypto boom cards

viscid torrent
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I don't really know how to describe GRE cards

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They're just silly in between cards

slow oxide
viscid torrent
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GRE is a fun name though, Golden Rabbit Edition

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So like, for example there is the RX 7800 XT, RX 7900 GRE, and then the RX 7900 XT

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It's just a weird in between card

slow oxide
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also the xx50XT cards thrown on old gen refreshes

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6650XT, 6750XT, 6950XT, etc

viscid torrent
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Refreshes

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Also, amd is releasing an RX 7650 GRE

slow oxide
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also that one time Ryzen had an -XT CPU

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lmfao

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it was the 3600XT iirc

viscid torrent
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I mean, of course it is

frail island
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It was the fastest gpu in the world before the 5090 came along lel

white jolt
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byeee

spare temple
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Is my spec good enough for inzoi

frail island
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ram not good

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cpu is good

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press control + shift + esc

spare temple
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Is this the right thing

frail island
spare temple
frail island
spare temple
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wait do I click on gpu

frail island
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u found it ?

spare temple
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Yes

frail island
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gpu 1

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frail island
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go gpu 0

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above one

spare temple
frail island
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yea i think probably not

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like min

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setting

spare temple
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so I won’t be able to play at all

frail island
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yea plus ur ram not good

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u running on laptop or pc desktop

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?

spare temple
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desktop

frail island
spare temple
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what do I upgrade too

frail island
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gpu ram

spare temple
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how do I get more ram

frail island
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buy

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it at pc store

spare temple
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and then I will be able to play

frail island
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see here

frail island
frail island
frail island
spare temple
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okay I will tysm

frail island
# spare temple okay I will tysm

Greetings, Creators! 
We wanted to provide a clear and detailed breakdown of the system specifications needed to run inZOI and how they may impact your gameplay experience. 
As such, we've categorized the system requirements into four tiers and provided the optimal settings for each. 
Please check the announcement for more details.

Wishlist in...

▶ Play video
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np

frail island
spare temple
frail island
frail island
spare temple
frail island
frail island
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depending on ur budget

spare temple
frail island
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plus u have to see those parts fit in ur case

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u might need to buy new case

spare temple
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oh wow wow

frail island
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yea

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its like that

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im upgrading my pc since 2018

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its been journey

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💀

spare temple
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oops I’m literally glad I asked if my specs was good bc I would have been really mad if i couldn’t run the game when inzoi comes out

frail island
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there are some people who were asking if they can run chrome book

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i said heck no

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😂

short fulcrum
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frail island
frail island
frail island
spare temple
spare temple
spare temple
frail island
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yea

frail island
spare temple
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tbh idk I’m going to asap before inzoi comes out 💪

frail island
short fulcrum
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Today I saw the graphics for mininum requirements and omg it looks bad

spare temple
frail island
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medium looks blurry

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recom to high best bet

short fulcrum
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Deedee megadoodoo

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From min to medium it's already a big improvement tho

frail island
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im playing on recom im good

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recom vs high no big difference

short fulcrum
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I honestly didn't notice any difference

frail island
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yea

short fulcrum
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See nvidia if you don't fill the map with puddles your 6grand cards are worthless

earnest oxide
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Is intel ultra 5 225f good to pair with 9070xt?

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Or ryzen 5 9600x with 9070xt

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earnest oxide
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Alright

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Mobo: MSI B650M Gaming Wifi
CPU: R5 9600X
RAM: Kingston Fury Beast RGB 2x16GB DDR5 5200MHz
PSU: Deepcool PN750M 750W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular
Storage: XPG Gammix 1TB M.2 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte RX9070XT Gaming OC 16G
Case: Tecware VX Prism M TG
Case Fan: Slevflow Vortex Max ARGB (Full Case Fan)
Air Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB

earnest oxide
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I can trade in with my old pc for 450dollar 🗿

frail island
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u getting new pc nice

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6,427.29 dhs nice

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not bad

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earnest oxide
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Im from malaysia, but i convert it to usd

honest quarry
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Guys will an intel core Ultra 7 265KF run InZOi? :/ I didn’t see it on the requirements picture so I’m not sure??? Does anyone know?

earnest oxide
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For malaysia currency it will be RM7750

viscid torrent
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I don't know what pricing is really like in malaysia, but it sounds very overpriced

viscid torrent
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It could be that the price is fine, but it's hard to say when I don't know what kind of prices are normal there for computer stuff :P

frail island
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very bad than 14 gen lol

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more price than performance

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it has become for intel core

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glad didn't buy it

light sun
light sun
earnest oxide
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Will i5 12400 and rtx3060 ti is enough to play Inzoi on recommended settings with 1080p ?

viscid torrent
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I think you'll be looking at a mix of medium / high as you're right in between medium and recommended

rare scarab
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also we have dlss, so just wait when game released first

earnest oxide
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alrightt

leaden kelp
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Well… I guess I just wait? @viscid torrent Since you said it can take awhile

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Never mind… sigh

viscid torrent
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You could try resetting your bios

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Maybe there's some memory OC setting still enabled somewhere that causes issues

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There should be a section in the manual somewhere on how to reset the bios / clear the cmos

leaden kelp
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It doesn’t even boot to BIOS

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Guess I have to slot in an old 16 GB to reset it

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@viscid torrent It’s not the A2 slot

honest quarry
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I just want to make sure before I buy this product, please if anyone knows, will this be able to run inZOI on max settings? The 8GB on the graphics card kinda worries me lol? Not sure if that’s good or not.

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leaden kelp
frail island
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💀

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frail island
honest quarry
frail island
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MD RYZEN 7 9800X3D

viscid torrent
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I will quickly finish my current work, I'll be back in like 10 mins chuukek

frail island
leaden kelp
frail island
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dang

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did u overlock or what

leaden kelp
leaden kelp
frail island
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don't go beyond

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thats what i did with my ram sticking with 6000mhz

honest quarry
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This is okay?

frail island
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not fan amd gpu

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cpu is good

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everything looks good

frail island
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some of the motherboard is brick

leaden kelp
frail island
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not to upgrade

frail island
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then yes

leaden kelp
frail island
leaden kelp
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Hmm…

frail island
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why u want different speed

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lol

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diferent stick

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so weird

leaden kelp
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No… because currently my 32GB sticks don’t even go to BIOS

frail island
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this is my

leaden kelp
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My old 16 GB are fine

frail island
leaden kelp
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Same frequency, everything

frail island
leaden kelp
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Only difference is size

frail island
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they are experts

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i always go there

leaden kelp
frail island
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then be careful

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if u not going

leaden kelp
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I am… that’s why I am not randomly sticking memory sticks in

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And trying to troubleshoot

frail island
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watch linus tech tips

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google

viscid torrent
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Alright, I'm back

viscid torrent
viscid torrent
# leaden kelp

The dram frequency in the ai tweaker section, what other options do you have besides auto?

leaden kelp
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@viscid torrent uhhh a lot

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Starting from 800 MHz to 13333 MHz

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# honest quarry This is okay?
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leaden kelp
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But not 5600 MHz

winter goblet
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Waffle i cant get it sigh

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Maybe i can actually

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winter goblet
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Its most likely gonna hit tha $400

leaden kelp
viscid torrent
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Because maybe when it's set to auto it's trying to set it too high

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honest quarry
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I know nothing about AMD products. I’ve always been intel and Nvidia. Will that run InZOi on max? I’m looking for like a very good computer and I know nothing about AMD

frail island
leaden kelp
frail island
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as well

frail island
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intel for productivity

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but intel has lot of issues with their chips

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so not good idea to get intel rn

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frail island
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but has less cores

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winter goblet
leaden kelp
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@viscid torrent one last Q… should I enable XMP?

viscid torrent
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You could try

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What are your boot settings? Maybe something is wrong there since it sends you into the bios rather than windows

frail island
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just for one game

leaden kelp
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I pressed the key on startup

viscid torrent
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Oh, ok ok

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Alright, in that case, keep xmp disabled and see if it boots into windows with the ram set to 4800

leaden kelp
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Okay

winter goblet
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i just want a gpu that i wont have to change for a while

frail island
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not short term

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inzoi just a game

winter goblet
frail island
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yea

winter goblet
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if i get that gpu i wont have to upgrade for abit

frail island
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yep

winter goblet
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only the cpu tho

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and probably the motherboard but thats later

viscid torrent
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Alright, keep the settings the same and try it with the other sticks added as well

leaden kelp
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already done. the 32x2 works

viscid torrent
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Alright, you could try changing it from 4800 to 5200 then

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If that doesnt work then it just means it can't handle the higher speed at that memory capacity

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Or you could try enabling xmp to see if that works

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As xmp is optimized

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But it also could run into the same issue of just being too much for the memory controller to handle

heady quail
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Which one would be the best pick??

viscid torrent
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They're both not really good picks

leaden kelp
viscid torrent
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The desktop is a lot faster though

viscid torrent
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So if you want you can just leave it at 4800

leaden kelp
viscid torrent
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AMD benefits more from faster memory

frail island
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instability

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i9 holy

heady quail
frail island
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no wonder xmp not working

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honest quarry
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I’m trying to go above the requirements for InZOi lol

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9950X3D is the fastest gaming cpu in existence atm

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The requirements they have listed are weird though because the cpu's listed at lower requirements beat cpu's listed for higher requirements, it makes no sense chuukek

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frail island
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2365 dhs

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with mother board 700 dhs

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3k

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yep

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💀

frail island
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good for rendering as well 16 cores

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😭

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im still with my intel i712700

honest quarry
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Okay I guess I’ll go for that lol. I’m trying to find one with that and a nvidia graphics card

frail island
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12 cores only

frail island
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before buying

viscid torrent
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If all you're going to do is game, don't do it, it's not worth it chuukek

frail island
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it is worth for doing animation and gaming

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yea

viscid torrent
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You're spending hundreds of dollars on getting like 1 extra fps

limpid helm
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Hello, I have a question

viscid torrent
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Ask ahead ^^

limpid helm
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I seen on the videos posted about the specs, for the recommended requirements I got the AMD Ryzen 7 7700 8core, will it still run as the recommended specs

frail island
limpid helm
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And for the graphics I got the XFX Speedster SWFT210 Radeon RX 7600XT

viscid torrent
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7600 XT is in between medium and recommended. So you're fine with playing on medium settings, maybe a mix of medium and high

limpid helm
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I hope my computer pc can run the game good because I be having problems playing games like they never load or freezes

viscid torrent
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What games do you have these issues with? And what resolution are you playing on?

limpid helm
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The sims, Roblox literally any game

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But it’s brand new the pc

viscid torrent
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You plugged your monitor into your gpu and not your motherboard right?

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Like this

frail island
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good lord

frail island
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who does that

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😭

limpid helm
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It wasn’t me who build it

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I will change it and try again, thanks for letting me know

viscid torrent
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Did someone build it for you or did you get it at a store? You can always ask them to help as well, because your pc is more than powerful enough to run most games without any issues

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It shouldn't freeze or stuff like that with games like roblox etc

dusky ember
# honest quarry Is a Ryzen 9 9950X3D good?

If you have a constrained budget, spend more on your GPU. Save $200-$250 and get a 9800X3D. Gaming wise it performs the same, and more power efficient in gaming. If you also need to do multi-threaded workloads like rendering or compiling code, the 9950X3D is faster but as power efficient as the 9800X3D. Gaming wise though, only a select few games run better on the 9950X3D due to the larger cache, and I highly highly doubt inZOI would be one of them.

TLDR; 9800X3D is $480, while the 9950X3D is about $700. They perform the same in gaming. Get the 9800X3D.

viscid torrent
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Or even a 7800X3D if it cheaper as that also almost performs the same as a 9800X3D chuukek

sinful crystal
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Which one will be able to run the game

atomic grotto
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I got lots of updates to do 😭

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atomic grotto
dusky ember
# viscid torrent Both

From what Techpowerup is showing from their charts the 7700S is about 30% faster than the 4060 Mobile

sinful crystal
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Thanks guys I only play sims & inzio so which one do u think would be good for me ?

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sinful crystal
atomic grotto
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My advice to you. Inzoi will be taking most of that space. If you're going to play both games then get the second one

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dusky ember
sinful crystal
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Getting gta 6 on my Xbox

dusky ember
# sinful crystal Second 1 a thousand other one 750 I believe

AFAIK from the specs shown:

13620H is slightly better than the 7735H. (Around 5% difference, but the 7735H is much more power efficient)
4060 Laptop is on par with the 7735H.
Both RAM and Storage can be upgraded for LESS THAN THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.

Is there a specific reason why you are getting a laptop?

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sinful crystal
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atomic grotto
viscid torrent
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@sinful crystal what's the price of the Gigabyte laptop?

dusky ember
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If you need a laptop for portability, I'd probably recommend the 1st one purely because of the 7735H being more power efficient. You'd have a bigger battery life.

sinful crystal
dusky ember
sinful crystal
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& if get a desktop I won’t really get to play like that

dusky ember
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Tbh, I really don't recommend laptops for gaming on the go literally because of battery life. Most laptops on medium to high end games only run around like 2 - 3 hours on battery.

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InZOI will require an internet connection to play regardless. Is there an option for you to keep a desktop at home on, with remote software like Parsec, and you can use an internet connection to remote in? That way you can use your old laptop, remote to your desktop, and play with better performance.

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That's how I game on the go

dusky ember
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That way I don't need to run the game on my laptop and sacrifice battery life

dusky ember
sinful crystal
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# sinful crystal 1049

Yeah, get the Asus laptop, you can upgrade the memory and add additional storage and it will still be cheaper than the Gigabyte laptop

dusky ember
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It's probably for downloading textures I'd assume?

sinful crystal
atomic grotto
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Hotels usually offer free internet (at least in my area)

sinful crystal
dusky ember
limpid helm
limpid helm
dusky ember
viscid torrent
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You connect it to the gpu :)

limpid helm
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Hold on I will show you how I have it

viscid torrent
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If you connect it to the motherboard then it'll use the internal gpu of the processor, which basically won't give you much performance in games :P

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dusky ember
limpid helm
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Like for example Roblox stays in a white screen and then the whole pc freezes and for the sims it also do the same thing meanwhile the background music playing

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But for anything else it works good, is just the games

viscid torrent
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You do have Radeon Adrenaline installed?

limpid helm
winter goblet
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Why is ur antenna facing down-

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That still works?

limpid helm
limpid helm
viscid torrent
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Yeah, there's your problem you have your monitor plugged into your motherboard so it's using the onboard graphics rather than your graphics card

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@limpid helm plug your monitor into one of those ports

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it's software for your graphics card to work properly :)

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Without it your graphics card doesn't really understand what it's supposed to do :P

winter goblet
dusky ember
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Whoever built your PC you need to get your money back

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there is no shot they built it and then not downloaded any of the drivers or helped guide you through the issues you were having

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Whoever built it also didn't put in the IO shield

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🤦‍♂️

viscid torrent
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They said it was a friend so I guess it was assembled for free :P

dusky ember
#

it better have been

viscid torrent
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But yeah, your friend should probably watch some more tutorials

dusky ember
#

I charge everyone $50 per unit built which is half to 3x as cheap as some other people in my area and i give tech support for a week after...

viscid torrent
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Also the missing pcie bracket :^)

frail island
dusky ember
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I'm worried about the fan orientation if this is how sloppy the build is

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Imagine every fan is an intake or exhaust

viscid torrent
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I assume they probably didn't install any extra fans

dusky ember
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That actually makes more sense

viscid torrent
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But who knows :^)

dusky ember
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It's okay

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Its either a vacuum or suffocating from the inside

viscid torrent
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It seems to be a 4000D so there's not really any real need for extra fans

dusky ember
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The exhaust on the back is oriented correctly so I'd assume whoever built it just left the stock ones in

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9070XT is 20-30% faster raster, 40-60% faster RT than the 7800XT depending on the title for $60 more in price...

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If you can get a 9070 XT at MSRP, there is literally no reason to get any other card.

viscid torrent
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Even above msrp it's still one of the best cards to get atm :v

dusky ember
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The 9070XT is literally what Nvidia said the 5070 would be compared to the 4090, but AMD actually made their 9070XT as fast as last gen flagship (Even faster in RT).

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But I guess the 5070 Ti is a closer comparison, but even then the 5070 Ti doesn't even come close to the 4090

viscid torrent
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And with an undervolt and overclock it's super insane chuukek

dusky ember
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If they had a 9070 XT 32GB edition I'd buy it

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The only reason I won't is cause I already have a 7900 XTX

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RT performance boost only isn't enough to convince me to downgrade by 8 GB of VRAM

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This is promising though

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If they release an enthusiast level card next generation it'll probably equal Nvidia's next gen flagship looking at how AMD's progressing

viscid torrent
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I'd rather see them invest everything they have into midrange

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Because I, and most gamers, don't really care about the high end stuff anyways chuukek

limpid helm
viscid torrent
dusky ember
limpid helm
viscid torrent
frail island
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u need

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backside

viscid torrent
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You don't need it

dusky ember
viscid torrent
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But it does look better

dusky ember
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It's a visual thing

frail island
limpid helm
dusky ember
frail island
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xd

dusky ember
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If dust was that big of an issue case manufacturers would cover every single damn hole on the case except for the fan openings

frail island
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my case has protection covers

dusky ember
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But they don't because it isn't

frail island
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nzxt 💪

dusky ember
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NZXT is crap...

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They are the Apple of PC parts manufacturing without the quality

viscid torrent
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Depends, a lot of NZXT products are high quality at a competitive price

limpid helm
viscid torrent
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Do they have stinkers? yes, certainly

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Do they have super good products? Also yes

limpid helm
dusky ember
frail island
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man who build ur pc

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should get fired

viscid torrent
dusky ember
viscid torrent
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They are extremely competitive lol

frail island
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nzxt 850 w

limpid helm
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This is the case I have

frail island
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c

dusky ember
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My 1200W superflower I got for $130

frail island
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this is my

dusky ember
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And these are gold

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My SF is platinum

frail island
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atx is good

dusky ember
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This one looks good but its also on sale

viscid torrent
dusky ember
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Better power efficiency at high loads

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But yeah you are right

viscid torrent
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Yeah but it says nothing about quality

viscid torrent
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Plus 80+ is outdated

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Cybenetics is the new standard

dusky ember
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Brand reputation says a lot about quality

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Super Flower is an OEM thats been in business for decades

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NZXT has been shady as hell

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Regardless I don't want to support a company that does shady business practices regardless if they have good products

viscid torrent
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Anyways, as I said, NZXT's entire PSU lineup is objectively one of the best on the market at the moment and also priced extremely competitively

viscid torrent
dusky ember
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This is probably not the best analogy but would you buy a Shein shirt if they were good quality but made by sweatshops? TE_Shrug
NZXT's rental PC business literally profited off of ignorance and children so I can't see how much different that is

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And there are equally as good options

frail island
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expensive af

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2025 model

dusky ember
viscid torrent
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But yeah, my NZXT psu I bought before everything got exposed. My NZXT case I bought after because there simply was nothing else that offered the same appearance

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So oh well

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dusky ember
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Everything here is similarly priced

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NZXT's only platinum PSU is over $100-$150 more than SF's options LOL

viscid torrent
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I mean, that's cool and all, but it doesn't change the fact that NZXT's psu's are good

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They might not always be the best purchase

viscid torrent
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But most of the time the C850, C1000, and C1200 are

frail island
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my c850thorki

dusky ember
viscid torrent
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No

dusky ember
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Objectively sure, the 5090 is the best, but you wouldn't recommend it over something else

viscid torrent
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That's not what I'm saying

frail island
dusky ember
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Good isn't one metric

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Just like how whether a GPU is good or not isn't just its performance

viscid torrent
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The C1500 at 350 is not really competitive no. But the C850, C1000, and C1200 are extremely competitively priced

dusky ember
viscid torrent
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You're missing the point

dusky ember
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So you're saying regardless of anything else, because they are good and competitively priced they are just good?

viscid torrent
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I would recommend the C850, C1000, and C1200 because they are objectively some of the best performing PSU's on the market and within a competitive price bracket. it's difficult to find something that has better value / performance per dollar / some other description for that

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I hope this explains it better

dusky ember
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Yeah, so you're saying because they are good, and their prices are good, nothing else matters and therefore that's why you recommend them?

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That's just what I said

viscid torrent
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Wha

dusky ember
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"I would recommend the C850, C1000, and C1200 because they are objectively some of the best performing PSU's on the market and within a competitive price bracket"

viscid torrent
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I don't really get what you're trying to say or get at here

dusky ember
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  1. NZXT is not a good company, regardless of how good their products are, therefore I don't recommend them.

  2. Your second statement about not being able to find something of better or similar value is just not necessarily true.

mild crag
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Hello i want to ask something , can i run it with gpu 1660ti 6 gb , cpu ryzen 5 2600 ( i will change it to ryzen 7 5800x) and 16 gb ram at least at very low :/

viscid torrent
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You're twisting my words, I never said it's not possible to find something better or similar

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I just said that it's difficult finding something that's better value

dusky ember
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I took 5 minutes and went to one of the most well-known OEMs in the PSU market and found literally better priced PSUs.

viscid torrent
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The issue with a company not being good and therefor not recommending their products is pretty awkward though because it means that a lot of companies are no longer valid recommendation options :/

clear lion
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How do I know if I have a thunderbolt port on my laptop?

viscid torrent
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So I don't really know what you're trying to get at

frail island
white jolt
viscid torrent
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I guess the closest competitors to the C850 would be the Corsair RM850x ATX 3.1 and XPG Core Reactor II. The Corsair being more expensive and the XPG being a step down in quality

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SF has great psu's, but compared to the C850 they're just way too expensive

white jolt
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i had Corsair 850 and it busted 6800 XT

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:/

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it was smoking but the case looks fine

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mobo didnt go smoke

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surprisingly just only psu and gpu went on fire

frail island
viscid torrent
white jolt
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lian li

frail island
mild crag
viscid torrent
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But yeah, if we decide to no longer recommend products because a company sucks, then it's also goodbye to Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI for awful business practices, goodbye to Nvidia and AMD for anti consumerism, the list goes on

viscid torrent
mild crag
white jolt
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what happen to msi and gigabyte lol

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i miss EVGA

viscid torrent
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MSI was caught scalping their own GPU's on ebay

white jolt
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yikes..

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trying to do pc builder ai with $2000 budget

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lol

viscid torrent
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Gigabyte has delivered motherboards with serious security issues. Refusing to repair gpu's over design / pdoruction flaws on their part. And selling exploding PSU's and then proceeding to downplay it as nothing serious

white jolt
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wth thats bad

viscid torrent
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Asus has on so so so many occasions been caught refusing to repair or uphold warranty

white jolt
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ROG part of ASUS are still good?

viscid torrent
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they're the same thing

white jolt
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geez

viscid torrent
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So yeah, simply not recommending a company based on their business practices is rough, as almost every company out there just sucks in one way or another

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So I'll keep recommending products and whether someone is fine with buying from a certain brand or not, I'll leave that up to them

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Because I'm not your moral compass

white jolt
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lol

wicked rock
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Hello guys soo here i Just wanna confirm if my laptop can run Inzoi for sure
My laptop specs are:
i7-14650HX
RTX 4060
32GB RAM
1tb NVMe

white jolt
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not sure if my current mobo will compatiable with newer gpu

wicked rock
light sun
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lol

viscid torrent
white jolt
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no way lol

wicked rock
light sun
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there are people modding old nvidia 2080s and soldering more VRAM onto them

viscid torrent
wicked rock
light sun
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it's like the absolutely cheapest way to do local inference

white jolt
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awww lol

viscid torrent
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4060 is slower than a 3070, and a laptop 4060 is even slower

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You're around medium requirements @wicked rock so you can easily run the game

white jolt
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i guess gotta wait for gtx 4060 gamers to test if they prove us wrong lol

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make sure turn motion blur off setting

wicked rock
viscid torrent
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Your 4060 runs at a high tdp, but a laptop 4060 is simply a different gpu than a desktop one

white jolt
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can this pic play inzoi 😂

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since 6800 XT busted

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swap back to GTX 1080 ti

frail island
gusty goblet
viscid torrent
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1080 Ti is a step above the 2060

gusty goblet
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the 6800xt still better though unfortunately

white jolt
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yeah ive test inzoi demo with 1080 ti and can run minimum setting

frail island
white jolt
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lol nice naruto toys

frail island
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Naruto and boruto

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Adult

rare scarab
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lets see whats inside that pendrive

frail island
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Nothing

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Bios updates

gusty goblet
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the inZOI USB Drive

limpid helm
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@viscid torrent like that?

frail island
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💀

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What in the world

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Why is the WiFi adapter into fan

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If u have one monitor that port is in display port that's correct

limpid helm
frail island
limpid helm
frail island
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Good

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Always displayport

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How.many hz u have

limpid helm
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So for now I’m good?

frail island
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In ur monitor

limpid helm
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I’m going to do the other step

limpid helm
frail island
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Ok

limpid helm
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180hz

honest quarry
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Is an intel core i7 14700KF better than an I9 12900KF? Does anyone know?

limpid helm
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But when I turn it on it shows only 60hz

frail island
frail island
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Nvidia

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Change settings

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Right click

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Change it

frail island
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Maybe check reddit

frail island
limpid helm
frail island
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What is ur gpu

limpid helm
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The 7600 one

frail island
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@viscid torrent help him

limpid helm
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I downloaded it already

frail island
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Just install

limpid helm
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Yea

viscid torrent
viscid torrent
frail island
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Great

limpid helm
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For the control panel where do I go

frail island
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Right click

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Desktop

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Opps

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I mean

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Search bar

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Type control panel

limpid helm
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Yea ik, I mean like where do I got to fix the hz thing

frail island
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Right click display

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Setting

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On desktop

limpid helm
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Okay and sorry lol I just be getting confused

frail island
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It's alright

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Go settings

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In wjndows

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Press win button

limpid helm
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Ok I’m in

frail island
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Click display

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Scroll down

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U will see advance

limpid helm
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Ok got it

frail island
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Then scroll again change hz

limpid helm
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Where it says “choose a refresh rate”

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Got it

viscid torrent
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Yes yes

limpid helm
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So that won’t hurt my pc ?

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I will try the games now and see what happens

frail island
frail island
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It's good

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Reposne rate

viscid torrent
frail island
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U will feel smooth

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Yea

viscid torrent
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Less stuttery

limpid helm
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Ouiiii okay lol

frail island
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I'm glad u realised it

viscid torrent
#

Radeon Adrenalin is installed as well now?

limpid helm
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I can open the game thru the Adrenalin right?

viscid torrent
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Alright, perfect

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Games and everything should work fine now

limpid helm
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It worked!!

viscid torrent
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You can just launch games on your desktop, through steam, etc, all is fine

limpid helm
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Thank you so so much🫶🏼I really appreciate it

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I was all worried I wouldn’t be able to play inzoi

frail island
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Enjoy ur 180 hz

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Move around ur mouse

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It's faster

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Always set 180 hz in ur games

frail island
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Enjoy

rare scarab
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Remind me of my friend that play 60hz for 2 years, he had 240hz 🤣

upper glacier
#

Hello everyone, I'm not sure if this channel is the correct one. I would like to know if I need an Nvidia RTX 5000 series to be able to use the Smart Zoi? Could the new AMD GPUs -> RX 9070 and RX 9070 XT also be used?

viscid torrent
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From what is currently known smart zoi should work on any gpu

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I imagine we'll probbaly get more info on it soon, and otherwise we'll know once the game releases

unique obsidian
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So anything over 8 gb of vram would probably be needed

frail island
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Vram

winter goblet
upper glacier
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I was of the opinion that only the latest cards from Nvidia can use the feature because they work with AI. I was under the impression that Krafton had a deal with Nvidia (Nvidia Exclusive -> Smart Zoi) well, let's see.

Thank you very much for your time to answer me

viscid torrent
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In Mecha Break the model supposedly only uses 2GB

unique obsidian
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I woukd assume this would use more since it’s a new technology and it’s from nvidia

viscid torrent
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Yeah but it's and SLM, it's tiny

upper glacier
#

I found something here...

viscid torrent
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Basically what I said :v

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All that said, until we have more in depth details we just don't really know for certain how it will work :(

upper glacier
viscid torrent
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Yeah but it should work on AMD gpu's as well

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From what I understand at least

upper glacier
unique obsidian
unique obsidian
viscid torrent
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Or it should be at least, based on everything known about ACE so far

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It's made by nvidia yes, but it's not exclusive

white jolt
grizzled path
#

Hey guys,
Quick question. So is the 4060 mobile closer in performance to the 3060? With dlss enabled is the 4060 closer to the 3070 ? Or more in-between the 3060 and 3070? I noticed it wasn't on the new specs comparisons list just 2060, 3060, 3070 and 4080.

viscid torrent
river canopy
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I have a question

grizzled path
viscid torrent
river canopy
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My computer which I'm guessing is the inspiron 5680 and I brought a high graphics card and it compatible with it but the processor itself probably not compatible with the motherboard of my computer, do you guys think it will fit?

grizzled path
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That's true that's true. I forgot about that lol.

viscid torrent
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If you turn dlss on on the 4060 to get better performance. But then you just turn it on on the 3060 and its just the same as before again chuukek

viscid torrent
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Sorry :(

grizzled path
river canopy
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Will my processor be compatible with that computer model motherboard?

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It 5800x that I got for the processor

viscid torrent
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What is the exact model of your pc?

river canopy
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Inspiron 5680

viscid torrent
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Yeah which one, there seem to be multiple

river canopy
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2019

viscid torrent
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No, like the full name

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Inspiron 5680-4122 for example

white jolt
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i think he means this

river canopy
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Yes

white jolt
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dell wow never see this for a long time since 2000

viscid torrent
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Alright, because the Inspiron 5680 has 8th gen Intel from what I can find

river canopy
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Had it for 6 years im guessing

viscid torrent
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So... are you sure you have a 5680?

river canopy
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If im honest im guessing that the model cause that 100 percent what my pc look like and have those specs

viscid torrent
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You have a 2700X? Right

river canopy
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Yes

viscid torrent
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The 5800X you bought is only going to work if Dell has a bios update available that supports it

river canopy
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Yea it should have the bios update on my pc

viscid torrent
#

It seems like you have an Inspiron 5676

white jolt
#

uh

viscid torrent
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Yeah, seems like you need a new motherboard

white jolt
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it doesnt support 5800x

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:/

river canopy
#

Man I got to wait for my computer after it installments but would the processor work? Oh

viscid torrent
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Dell does not provide any updates

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Your motherboard supports the 5800X with an update. But Dell doesn't offer that

river canopy
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Yea guess I have to sell that processor then

viscid torrent
#

Probably because they'd rather have you throw away your pc and buy a new one from them 😔

river canopy
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I could replace the mother board right

white jolt
#

no wonder when your parents buy you 1st dell computer, you'll never know that dell pc cant upgrade anything as a kid/teen 😭

river canopy
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I did wanted it and I still care for it, the graphic card i got works with it 100 percent but guess I could do another processor for my pc

viscid torrent
#

I think you might be able to? It looks like a normal sized motherboard

river canopy
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Which motherboard should I get then?

white jolt
#

interesting, never knew lol

viscid torrent
#

The issue is mainly whether the holes for the screws line up with regular motherboards

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Since the dell board is definitively some sort of proprietary board

white jolt
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i never dare to open dell pc

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lol

river canopy
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I got to see which motherboard to get then

viscid torrent
#

Ah yeah, it seems like regular motherboards wont fit in the case

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The power button also can't be connected to regular motherboards

river canopy
#

I guess I'm actually selling the processor after all

viscid torrent
#

So you'd have to create new power button wiring yourself

river canopy
#

I have no idea how to do that I might just see if best buy handle that

viscid torrent
#

Basically, in classic Dell fashion, your pc is basically not upgradable

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Why does Dell always have to be like this :(

white jolt
#

Dell is just like that

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since 2000s

unreal lion
#

Im lucky my mom picked the Omen 35l cus it’s upgradable 🫠

white jolt
#

lucky my first computer was fat dell

unreal lion
#

.

white jolt
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its not upgradable

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LOL

river canopy
#

Ok it actually 5680 but I don't think it do much difference now but I do see why no one gets dell

unreal lion
#

Oop

viscid torrent
#

The 5680 is an Intel based machine

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Not AMD

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So huge difference lol

white jolt
#

this is what i had for dell

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💀

river canopy
#

Pfft

unreal lion
#

Oh my lord that looks old lol :3

white jolt
#

memories

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lol

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or childhood pc

viscid torrent
#

Even if Dell supported upgrading and software updates, you wouldn't be able to put a 5800X in an Inspiron 5680

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As an amd cpu isn't going to fit in an intel motherboard :P

river canopy
#

Oof for me

rare scarab
unreal lion
#

Crazy thing I wasn’t even born

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:3

white jolt
#

you werent here in 2000s?

unreal lion
#

Nope . I was technically in the late 2000s cus

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I was born 2009

rare scarab
#

bro didnt rven born yet!

white jolt
#

oof

rare scarab
#

hahahah

white jolt
#

we all touch grass alot before phones addictions

unreal lion
#

I love the year I was born if I wasn’t born that year I wouldn’t have met my friends :3

white jolt
#

and pcs come first

rare scarab
white jolt
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but it was just adobe flash games

rare scarab
#

also we have cdrom back then

white jolt
#

LOOOL

rare scarab
#

now all digital

river canopy
#

Well sad for my processor but the graphic card is good, is their a more higher compatible processor for the 5680 then?