Technical Computer Building/Learning

[winter goblet]

wtf are those specs?

[rare scarab]

this guy is famous for leaking stuff before releasing

i think thats description of that gpu

8gb in 2025 is sad man

[winter goblet]

oh

i bet u that price tage is 300-400

[rare scarab]

seems like it

also this gpu is hot sale for new pc users

or come with prebuilt who doesn’t know shit about pc lol

[winter goblet]

damn

i bought my 8gb for 140

😭

[rare scarab]

its okay, you gonna get new gpu soon 😎

[winter goblet]

that might have to wait tho

cause i think i am getting a cat

[runic holly]

Does this laptop look good for InZoi? And also in general cause I’m hoping it’ll last me a couple years at least.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-strix-18-240hz-gaming-laptop-qhd-intel-13th-gen-core-i9-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-1tb-ssd-eclipse-gray/6539605.p?skuId=6539605

[rare scarab]

yes

try find 32gb if you can

[runic holly]

I did but those are a bit more out of my price range sadly

I think this laptops can be upgraded to 32gb tho

[rare scarab]

1700$ oh my god

its fine, you can use this one and last longer

[runic holly]

The others were all 2.5k and above

[rare scarab]

yeah cause it is laptop, unlucky 😜

[runic holly]

True but I kinda need something more portable so a desktop wouldn’t really work for me

[runic holly]

Someone just pointed out the gen 13 core so sadly probably not oof

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

i forgot that issues

[runic holly]

There is this one but it’s gonna be pricey
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-g16-16-oled-qhd-240hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-ultra-9-32gb-lpddr5x-nvidia-rtx-4080-1tb-ssd-eclipse-gray/6570223.p?skuId=6570223

Also dunno much about the ultra core

[rare scarab]

32gb 😱 4080

[rare scarab]

abit lower from i9 14900k

also ultra core i9 is not for gaming lol

unless you college or uni idk

[runic holly]

Oof welp most of the laptops on best buy that match the other requirements only have intel 13, 14, or ultra cores so

[rare scarab]

sorry if i can’t help much, maybe others can

[runic holly]

It’s alright

[high spindle]

Don't do it! These things are finicky. They look good on paper, but my friend bought one for around $3,000, and now he's willing to sell it to me for $1,000.

He is currently using a $1,500 Lenovo because of the constant stuttering and drops in FPS due to the laptop’s power settings. When it’s plugged in, it feels like there's an instant throttle on GPU performance.

I've tried everything to help him fix it, except for reinstalling the operating system to reset the registry.

Anyway, just be cautious and make sure to check the reviews on YouTube.

[runic holly]

Ah

Were there issues Nvidia 4070 super or is it an ok graphics card?

[high spindle]

The 4070 in the desktop version seems to perform well, but I'm not so sure about the laptop version. They have slightly different architectures, with the desktop model featuring more cores and memory.

I think the issue may be related to the variable TGP, which switches with “Dynamic Boost.” It doesn't seem to be working effectively, and it could be due to a BIOS or driver issue that's causing it to throttle power when plugged in, rather than the opposite.

In any case, I haven’t found a solution yet, but I still love ASUS ROG as a brand! They offer other great products.

[frail island]

im using 4070 runs good

on pc

[high spindle]

Correction (technicality)…they have the same Ada Lovelace architecture but different configurations

[high spindle]

It’s actually an underrated GPU in my book on the Desktop.

My Buddy could’ve easily had a bad batch laptop…doesn’t explain the similar issues I saw on reviews on YouTube though ha

[frail island]

ur bold fonts suprises me

😂

it is good gpu

[high spindle]

How big is it when I do it? 😂…..does it take up the whole screen or what?

[frail island]

nah

just capture my attention

[runic holly]

What do we think about this laptop?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-oled-3k-120hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-8945hs-32gb-lpddr5x-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-1tb-ssd-platinum-white/6570271.p?skuId=6570271

[viscid torrent]

Way too expensive for a 4070 laptop. You're paying a huge premium for the formfactor which only disadvantages performance

[runic holly]

Formfactor?

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, it's a 14" laptop

It's tiny

[runic holly]

Is that bad?

Cause ngl a smaller laptop would actually be preferable for me

My current one is around 16” and it can be a pain to lug around or try to fit in my bag

[viscid torrent]

It's not bad, you're just paying a premium for it and you get worse performance as the size constraints means less cooling which means the components have to run at lower speeds

That said, there might be some other smaller / lighter laptops that are a better price

What laptop do you have now?

[runic holly]

It’s a Dell gaming laptop but it’s at least 9 years old now so I’m not sure the exact model

[novel spear]

one inch doesnt sound like much, but it makes a big difference in formfactor

15 is relatively standard, 17 is bigg

[runic holly]

I did find some more budget laptops for around 1k all around 15” but they only have 500 gbs of space and 16gb ram?

[viscid torrent]

16" is practically the same formfactor as 15" is the issue. So if you want smaller then you have to go 14"

16" laptops have a slightly taller screen rather than wider, which means most 16" laptops are the same size as 15" ones, they just don't have the bezel below the screen like 15" ones do

[runic holly]

Ok I’m pretty sure it was a G5 15 Inspiration

[viscid torrent]

That said, 15" laptops without bezels will be smaller, which could be an interesting option as well

[runic holly]

2018 model I think

There’s also this one which is the same as the former but with only 16gb of ram and a Nvidia 4060
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-oled-3k-120hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-8945hs-16gb-lpddr5x-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-1tb-ssd-platinum-white/6570270.p?skuId=6570270

[viscid torrent]

The problem with that laptop is that you can't upgrade the ram :(

Which is the case on a lot of 14" laptops

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Copilot-Gaming-Laptop-GeForce/dp/B0DFK213YM/ @runic holly only a 4060 but it does have good performance and 32gb of ram

Maybe you can find a 32gb model cheaper elsewhere

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305718518687

Verified Asus seller with 300k positive reviews, a bit cheaper than amazon

[runic holly]

I dunno how I feel about buying outside of Best Buy since I do want the warranty as well

[viscid torrent]

Well in that case, bestbuy doesn't have anything that fits your needs unfortunately. Or well, it kind of does but for a lot of money :v

@runic holly https://www.costco.com/acer-predator-helios-14.5”-gaming-laptop---intel-core-ultra-9-185h---geforce-rtx-4070---165hz-wqxga%2B-3072-x-1920-display---windows-11.product.4000319782.html

What about this?

[high spindle]

Acer don’t play! lol

I’d take it!

[runic holly]

It only has 8gb tho?

[white jolt]

i'd still buyit if i were you

[runic holly]

InZoi requires at least 12 tho

[acoustic rose]

Every 4070 laptop GPU has 8GB

It has 32GB RAM

[runic holly]

Ah

[white jolt]

its memory ram lol so you need 32gb

[runic holly]

Oof

[runic holly]

It looks good but is the ultra core ok? Some people were saying it was finicky?

[frail island]

Thx God I'm on desktop

It has 12 gb vram

[acoustic rose]

Not the greatest but it's good enough

[viscid torrent]

No, it doesn't, they recommend at least 8gb which this has. If you want more than 8gb on a laptop then have fun paying like $2000+ or something

[viscid torrent]

Varies from laptop to laptop. From the reviews I found they're fine on this one

[rare scarab]

laptop gaming are scam as always 🤣

unless u buy the expensive one or something

[viscid torrent]

Not per se

It used to be like back in 2016

But modern gaming laptops, even budget ones, keep up decently well

[runic holly]

Yeah no I don’t really need something that powerful anyways just something that’ll run InZoi good and last a couple years in case any other games look interesting

[heady quail]

How did you upgrade your laptop?

[white jolt]

😭 I thought everyone know how to upgrade laptop. The laptop had free ssd slot and 16gb ram when I open bottom of laptop

I swapped 16 gb ram to 32gb ram and put extra ssd 1TB on free slot

[heady quail]

Ohh okay

I think it also depends on the laptop aswell

[winter goblet]

SLAY

[rare scarab]

there is two types of pc users

[earnest oxide]

Hello, im planning to upgrade my pc one by one.. which part should i upgrade first?
My spec rn is :
i5 12400f
Rtx 3060 ti
Mobo ddr4
16gb ram ddr4 2666

My plan is to upgrade my mobo to ddr5 plus 32gb of ram ddr5 6000… or should i upgrade either my gpu and cpu first?

[unique obsidian]

Upgrading your cpu won’t help if your gpu bottlenecked

So id say gpu then ram and mobo

That’s if you wanna stay on intel

[short fulcrum]

If you're going incrementally, aiming for ddr5 will bring the best immediate performance

Upgrading only cpu or gpu will put their power to waste

[viscid torrent]

Ram has less of a performance impact with intel than it does with amd. Not that intel won't benefit from it, but swapping motherboard to have ddr5 just doesn't really sound that worth it to me.
The problem is that the system is pretty well balanced atm. If you upgrade the gpu then your cpu will be the thing holding you back, and vice versa.
What I'd look at now is at least upgrading your ram to 32gb, and after that either your cpu to an i5 14600 or something like that or your gpu to, something

[vale maple]

I wouldn’t upgrade your motherboard if you’re not getting a new cpu as well

[earnest oxide]

Should i stay with ddr4 for now and just upgrade my ram to 32gb ? Are there big diff between ddr4 and ddr5? Btw thx all for your opinions 👍🏻

[earnest oxide]

I want to change my mobo cause i wana try ddr5. Buf if there is no big def between ddr5 and ddr4 maybe i just stay with it and upgrade my ram to 32

[vale maple]

Oh ddr5 is faster ram

The jump to 32 gigs is worth it in my opinion

I don’t know enough about the difference in terms of specifics besides the fact that it’s faster

Which can help in certain games

In terms of fps

DDR5 would also help future proof your system in terms of ram

I’d say if you’re in the budget go for it but I scrolled up and I’d upgrade your gpu first over anything if you’re wanting to play a game like inZOI

12th and 13th gen intel are also the same socket so you can think about that as well

[frail island]

Yea i have drr5 32 gb runs good

[frail island]

Yep I'm using 12 gen

[viscid torrent]

ddr5 is basically just faster than ddr4, but your motherboard needs to support it. So replacing your motherboard and then swapping ram to ddr5 is just too big of an investment to warrant the 15% performance boost you'll get

[viscid torrent]

And 14th gen

Hence my 14600(K/KF) recommendation :P

[frail island]

Yea not 14 gen

[viscid torrent]

Yes 14th gen, it's also 1700

[frail island]

80 percent of chips has been returned

Yea

Not good idea

[viscid torrent]

The 14600 is an i5

[frail island]

13 1 4 15 all has instability

Issues

[viscid torrent]

No

[frail island]

Yea 15 gen it has

[viscid torrent]

Only the i7's and i9's have problems

[frail island]

Recently vid came

[viscid torrent]

14th gen i5's are perfectly fine

[frail island]

Intel core as well I meant

[viscid torrent]

Yeah but that doesn't matter here as it's not 1700

I won't fit in their motherboard anyways

[frail island]

Yea i thought upgrade to 14 gen i stick my intel i712700 good enough for me

[viscid torrent]

But upgrading ram to 32gb of ddr4 and after that upgrading the cpu to an i5-14600(K/KF) or the gpu to something better are the most interesting options

For @earnest oxide that is

[frail island]

He needs motherboard as well

[viscid torrent]

They already have one

[winter goblet]

If i give my kidney can someone gift me a aio 🥺

[earnest oxide]

I see.. thankss 👍🏻👍🏻

[frail island]

Another solo leveling fan arise

💀

[viscid torrent]

And preferably fast ddr4, like 3600mhz

[slow oxide]

intel doesn't benefit much from fast RAM as much as Ryzens tbh

because no infinity fabric

[viscid torrent]

Yeah but the like $5 price difference between 2133 and 3600

[slow oxide]

at that price difference its a no brainer

[viscid torrent]

ddr4 is so cheap

[slow oxide]

say that 3 years ago and I'd call you out for lying

lmfao

[viscid torrent]

There's basically no reason to save a few bucks by getting the slowest ddr4 you can find :P

[rare scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37f2p9hhrtk @radiant wedge

fsr4 is good rn

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, FSR 4 is such a gigantic upgrade compared to FSR 3

I'm patiently waiting on stock to become normal so the new cards are actually able to be bought

[rare scarab]

but the problem this shit locked on 9000 series

i maybe wrong tho, maybe they want to do to 7000 series as well

[viscid torrent]

At first they said it's exclusive to 9000. Then they said they're going to implement it on 7000 as well. And then they did another 180 and said it would be 9000 exclusive again

They might bring more upgrades and optimizations to FSR 3 still but who's to say

[vestal viper]

Hi.
This might be a stupid question, but I must ask to see everything clear, do I have to have an NVIDIA graphics card to be able to use the AI features in inZOI (Smart Zoi, DLSS)?

Also, is the AMD Radeon RX 9070 better than the GeForce RTX 5070?

[viscid torrent]

It should function on AMD as well as far as I'm aware

They might give us more info in the showcase on the 19th

And otherwise, the game will be released in a few weeks so we'll have answers then

And yes, RX 9070 is better than the RTX 5070

[rare scarab]

AMD 9050 and 9060 coming soon 😎 for budget friendly

[viscid torrent]

No guarantee that they'll be good though :^)

[light sun]

really?

[rare scarab]

yeah

[vestal viper]

You mean both DLSS and the smart zoi feature should work on it?

[viscid torrent]

No

DLSS is exclusive to Nvidia RTX cards

Smart Zoi should work on AMD and Intel though

[vestal viper]

And is DLSS important? I mean does it make a big difference?

[viscid torrent]

AMD and Intel have their own alternatives to DLSS

AMD has FSR and Intel has XeSS

[vestal viper]

And would we be able to use that in inZOI? AMD's alternative?

[viscid torrent]

Yes

[vestal viper]

Really? That's great. I didn't see that option in the playtest videos when they were showing off the settings.

I thought we'd only be able to use DLSS.

[viscid torrent]

:)

I might be that FSR wasn't available during the demo's that content creators got to play, but it should be there at release

[fickle aspen]

Hi guys will this specs run inzoi??
-Intel Core i7 14700K LGA1700 Processor
-Crucial Pro Overclocking 32GB (2x 16GB)
-Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Windforce 8GB OC GPU
-1TB Kingston NV3 M.2-2280 PCIe

[viscid torrent]

Yes

[fickle aspen]

On high settings or?

[viscid torrent]

As long as the game isn't out that will be difficult to say

Content creators with the recommended specs were able to run the game comfortably at high settings. The 4060 is below recommended though so you're probably looking at medium settings

[fickle aspen]

Ahh I see thank you. Where can I see the recommended specs cause I was seeing 3060 rtx was recommended I think I’m looking in wrong place

[vestal viper]

Thank you. That's a relief.
I'm seriously considering the AMD Radeon RX 9070 card. It's way cheaper than the NVIDIA card and if it's better than it as well, then that's even better. I just hope that smart zoi really will work on it.

[viscid torrent]

Steam has it listed :)

[fickle aspen]

Thank you!

[viscid torrent]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2456740/inZOI/

[viscid torrent]

I'd say wait for the game to release before buying a new gpu so we can actually see how everything performs. It might be that the smart zoi feature works better on nvidia. But it could be that it works just as good on both nvidia and amd :)

[fickle aspen]

So 3070 is better than 4060?

[viscid torrent]

Yes

4060 is very close to the 3060 in terms of performance

[fickle aspen]

Ohh I see thank you 😊

[vestal viper]

Thank you.
And also the 3D printer and the my texture features aren't dependant on a specific GPU (like NVIDIA), is that right? They should work on any PC with a GPU's VRAM over 8GB?

[viscid torrent]

I don't actually know

I assume it will probably work, but I guess we'll have to wait on the upcoming showcase for more info, or the game's release to figure that out

[vestal viper]

Okay
One more thing, and sorry for asking so many questions. I'm just curious of your opinion.
So, overall, do you think the AMD RADEON RX 9070 card would have higher fps than RTX 5070?

[viscid torrent]

No worries :)
On average the 9070 has more fps in games than the 5070, but this of course varies from game to game. So it could be that the 5070 performs better in Inzoi, could also be that the 9070 performs better

But purely based off of average performance, the 9070 is probably faster in Inzoi? But who knows :P

[vestal viper]

Alright. Thank you. 🙂

[viscid torrent]

It wont surprise me if they perform identical or if the 5070 is faster. It really just depends on the game

[vestal viper]

I see.
At the electronics store today they very much recommended the AMD card. They said that it's better than the NVIDIA card and I probably should choose that. The AMD card.

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, I'd personally pick the 9070 or 9070 XT over the 5070 or 5070 Ti as well

[vestal viper]

I just might choose that too. 🙂 I'm definitely starting to lean towards it.

[viscid torrent]

I'm just waiting for stock to become a bit more normal since they're just sold out everywhere over here

And then I'll probably also upgrade to a 9070 or 9070 XT

[vestal viper]

Yeah, they told me at the store that it's selling fast here too.

[viscid torrent]

Couple of weeks / months and stock should probably stabilize, I hope :P

[analog linden]

Helloo, the ASUS TUF GAMING F15 laptop will be enough for playing inzoi??

[white jolt]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-fx707vi-ns74-17-3-intel-core-i7-13620h-16gb-geforce-rtx-4070-1tb-pcie-gray/p/N82E16834236508?item=N82E16834236508&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-gaming+laptops-_-N82E16834236508&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid+shopping&utm_campaign=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-gaming+laptops-_-N82E16834236508&id0=Google&id1=19482399293&id2=144569597003&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-2309865240434&id6=&id7=9191472&id8=&id9=g&id10=m&id11=&id12=CjwKCAjwvr--BhB5EiwAd5YbXkuUzNGRdHegrZyydGTocjQmPsNkpfMVFolqwZMOd6VX1rOjhAV0XxoCLPoQAvD_BwE&id13=Y&id14=Y&id15=&id16=643769055750&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=N82E16834236508&id25=US&id26=2309865240434&id27=&id28=&id29=&id30=16043127527928921865&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD-YhmM7FFCsbDGVdsRpZ8_kS2jwP&gclid=CjwKCAjwvr--BhB5EiwAd5YbXkuUzNGRdHegrZyydGTocjQmPsNkpfMVFolqwZMOd6VX1rOjhAV0XxoCLPoQAvD_BưE this one?

Bruh…

💀 how to change long text to short

[analog linden]

i have the version with i5-11400, 16gb ram and RTX 3050 Laptop gpu

https://www.pccomponentes.com/asus-tuf-gaming-f15-fx506hc-hn004-intel-core-i5-11400h-16gb-512gb-ssd-rtx-3050-156?srsltid=AfmBOopvMrf4n2xvplGtRgnZv1crxTC-mhKXtCrB7hEw4KDiQn9MuYSO

[viscid torrent]

Mobile 3050 is pretty far below the minimum requirements. That said, with DLSS you'll probably still be ok with running the game on like minimum / low graphics

[analog linden]

okeyy thankss!

[white jolt]

Did you upgrade your laptop yet?

[analog linden]

i have that laptop since 3 years, i can't buy a new one for that i was asking if my laptop will be enough

[white jolt]

I mean like upgrade ram or ssd

Not new laptop

[analog linden]

aaah, i will upgrade my ssd

[white jolt]

Since it has only 512gb

[analog linden]

yes, im going to add a 2tb ssd

[white jolt]

Not sure if it has additional slot for ssd

Niceee

[analog linden]

yes it has

[viscid torrent]

F15 does iirc

[analog linden]

yees its cool

[white jolt]

awesome

[analog linden]

[high spindle]

I figure no matter what, this game is going to be cpu intensive. The folks with an RTX card will surely get better performance from the reduced load on VRAM. But yes, remains to be seen lol.

[vale maple]

Considering the recommended is an i7 12th gen, yes

[viscid torrent]

I don't know, the cpu's listed for the requirements aren't really what I'd call very powerful for todays standard

So we'll have to wait and see

[vale maple]

They also didn’t specify what the minimum could run

I wish they would

[analog linden]

i think that inzoi has a very good optimization

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, it would be nice if they provided some performance indicators with the requirements like some other games have

But I guess it can be hard to do when the game is only releasing into early access and they're probably still actively working on optimization and such. So the performance indicator can change from one week to another :P

[high spindle]

Not going to lie! You be working hard out here in the Tech channel FOOOOOR SURE

Thanks for helping everyone out! ❤️ wish I could jump in more but I’m usually working on a million and one different things 🤣

[viscid torrent]

Tech stuff is just one of my silly niche hobbies / interests. And I think helping people is fun, so... :P

[vale maple]

Since its early access I think optimization is gonna be one of the first things they look at

[viscid torrent]

Yeah. Although the information we have through content creators and devs stating they've been playing it on the steam deck does give good hope for the game having good optimization :)

[dusky ember]

I'm just going to reinforce what others have said and recommend that you wait, especially if you have a brick and mortar store nearby that would allow you to get a GPU same day. Even then, getting one online would get easier as time passes.

I personally don't think the 9070s are worth upgrading to if you have a previous generation card though. I'd really only consider it if you have something older than like... a 3070?

[vestal viper]

I currently have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650.

I'm not upgrading tho, I'm buying a brand new gamer PC, because what I have now will be totally unable to run the full game.

Although it could manage the demo on medium settings.

But I'm 99% sure it couldn't handle the full game.

[viscid torrent]

Do keep in mind that the demo is basically just one character on screen and nothing else :P

[vestal viper]

Yeah. 🙂

[viscid torrent]

That said, at minimum graphics with FSR it could be that the game runs well

But retiring the 1650 wouldn't be a bad idea :P

It's very far away from it's glory days

[vestal viper]

Yeah, I think so too.
But the AMD RADEON RX 9070 is a major upgrade, I mean it would probably run well on high settings, right?

[viscid torrent]

Oh you'll easily be able to max it out

[vestal viper]

That's what I'm hoping.

[viscid torrent]

It's like 60% faster than the recommended gpu, and the XT model is almost 80% faster

And the recommended seems to do just fine at high

Compared to the 1650 it's just going to be night and day difference :P

[vestal viper]

I can't wait to play on the new PC. I never had such a strong PC as this one is going to be.

For a CPU I currently have an AMD Ryzen 3 3100. So that isn't the best either.

But the computer has 16GB RAM.
This new one will have 32GB.

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, that isn't great no :P

[frigid valve]

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For more relaxed and chill videos of just watching them build:

1. https://youtu.be/eWtu05vWQ4U?si=1EvGsGza25eJCjg1
2. https://youtu.be/tFBRSWXjq6o?si=Xh-nabc5kGjcUtHP
3. https://youtu.be/k5RpncfVn-o?si=SGCbLy4Og0wlcftM

Community Suggested Sites:
Newegg to request a custom build. They provide usual information as well in their FAQ. https://www.newegg.com/tools/custom-pc-builder

PcComponentes.com. Support staff found to be quite helpful in providing suggestions to make a fully compatible build. https://www.pccomponentes.com/configurador

**Comparing the efficiency of certain computer parts: **

1. https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/
2. https://www.tomshardware.com/

All videos/links posted here are NOT sponsorships or collabs, these are all just videos found to be useful when learning to build PC's

[viscid torrent]

You should remove userbenchmark from that list, it's well known to be an awful website with made up statistics and fake product reviews that spread misinformation

This is for example what they write about the objectively fastest gaming cpu on the market atm

[frigid valve]

i knew this about that website but got recommended this website numerous time so i thought maybe theyve redeemed themselves

guess not

[viscid torrent]

They just keep digging their own grave deeper and deeper with every new AMD release

The same with AMD gpu's. Every single review of the new 9070 is super positive, meanwhile userbenchmark

Actual joke of a website

I don't know what they gain by making up like everything they say, but oh well :P

[viscid torrent]

https://playinzoi.com/en/news/8303

Finally we know what the requirements mean

This makes things so much easier

That said, recommended going from a Ryzen 7 5800 to a Ryzen 7 7800X3D is uh....

Good god

UE5 being a cpu devourer strikes again

That said, at higher resolutions you can most likely get away with a weaker cpu

[winter goblet]

Waffle how did u find out that they 7700xt was available in the micro center? Where did u go 😭

[viscid torrent]

It was on their website

You can select the store at like the top of the page and see the stock

[high spindle]

Brooooooo!!!

[tranquil frigate]

im shook. recommended went from a 5800 non x to 7800x3d, while medium turned into 5800x3D wow 🥲

[winter goblet]

Oooo tyty

[high spindle]

I just saw the graphics comparison video! I think that the marketing team is always listening 👂🤌🏾 . They're aware it was a point of contention for everyone!

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, the cpu requirements are a pretty big jump

That said, cpu's are a lot closer in terms of performance than with gpu's. So if you have a 5800X3D for example you can probably still run the recommended preset pretty fine

[high spindle]

Internet connection required 😳🤦🏾‍♂️

….maybe there’s more to that. Say it ain’t soooo!

[viscid torrent]

Also considering people with the old listed recommended specs were running the game fine on the high preset, I guess they're just upping the cpu requirement to be more safe than sorry

[winter goblet]

Me when my 5 5600 x

😔

I can still play it at medium atleast

[tranquil frigate]

from the specs comparison video, medium does seem like the sweet spot. the biggest jump was from minimum to medium, but the other 3 had very small almost barely noticeable differences. 5600x is still a decent cpu, and like Waffle said, if you play on higher resolutions, your gpu will be doing most of the work anyway. Have no doubts the (decent) cpus below medium or recommended will do just fine in a much higher tier but we'll have to see

[sturdy raven]

What settings will I be able to play the game at?

[analog linden]

i just saw the video, i hope i could play at least with the medium graphics

[analog linden]

for canvas i think

[analog linden]

yes but i was surprised when i was the minimum, it looks so blurry

[slow oxide]

aw hell nah why they recommending X3D CPUs for anything but low

does the v-cache really affects the game that much

[viscid torrent]

I mean, they list much much much worse cpu's on intel's side of things though

Like, a 5800X3D runs circles around a 11700

[slow oxide]

me and my OC’d 5.2ghz 7600 looking at the specs

[viscid torrent]

Same as listing the 7800X3D next to a 12700K, when the 7800X3D is like 25% faster lmao

So I think the X3D picks for the cpu's are just super lenient when they list cpu's that are much slower under the same requirement

Same with the 5800X3D compared to the 11700, also like 25% performance difference

[slow oxide]

also recommending 6GB VRAM for UE5 is crazy

[viscid torrent]

Well, it is for minimum

[slow oxide]

i mean for very optimized UE5 title like Infinity Nikki it barely pulls at 720p low for my old rx5600xt

and lots of out of vram crashes

[viscid torrent]

Well, it does seem to run so...

Based on the video as well

[analog linden]

i’m scared for the performance of the game

[slow oxide]

well it is built on the bloat of modern gaming aka UE5

so not that much of a suprise for now

[analog linden]

you are right

well i hope i could play with medium

[light sun]

i mean it's a fair opinion tbh

AMD drivers are crap

but the hardware is typically better.

personally I don't think the gap in software quality outweighs the difference in price for a 9070 XT

[viscid torrent]

AMD drivers are fine

Back in the day they sucked yes

But once they went RDNA they have been stepping up their driver game massively

[light sun]

for anything ML-related the AMD software stack is horrendous, to give an example.

[dusky ember]

While that's more it still isn't enough info. Would like to see what the specs translate to for those settings in performance...

Unless all of those are targetting 60 FPS?

[light sun]

they do not internally prioritize software nearly as much as NVIDIA

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, if would've been nice if they listed resolution and fps alongside it

[light sun]

for a game like Inzoi that's well-tested and well-known, it's not going to be an issue.

[viscid torrent]

Oh certainly, but I wouldb't call their software bad anymore

[dusky ember]

9800X3D and 7900 XTX for high

thats crazy

[viscid torrent]

That said, userbenchmark just does everything in their power to attempt to make amd look like the worst thing you can buy and intel and nvidia is the lord and savior and we should all bow down to intel and nvidia

Hm, objective performance benchmarks from every single review site in existence? All fake paid amd actors!!!

[light sun]

semi analysis has a fun one for mi300x

https://semianalysis.com/2024/12/22/mi300x-vs-h100-vs-h200-benchmark-part-1-training/

but the "AMD software" issue isn't just the drivers, it's the whole "working with people to optimize on AMD hardware"

[dusky ember]

LOL looking at the video for the graphics comparisons minimum looks graphically unplayable

at least for the player models

it looks like they are constantly motion blurred

[light sun]

like FSR is worse than DLSS but it's hard to quantify that into a benchmark

[light sun]

blame DLSS :^)

[dusky ember]

look at the minimum at still frame:

https://youtu.be/JFzk45yOjkY?t=70

[viscid torrent]

So recommended and high requirements are for 4k?

[dusky ember]

their faces are like censored

[viscid torrent]

3070 for 4k high doesn't sound right to me

[dusky ember]

Yeah no shot that is right

[sudden anvil]

Technical question: I have everything for "High" but the CPU, I have a 12600k, do you think I'll manage to sustain High with my 4080 even if my CPU is slower or I'll be stuck in medium/recommended just because the CPU? Playing at 3440x1440

[light sun]

here's what always happens: the game will release, it'll run like complete garbage, then AMD/Nvidia will start trying to figure out why and you'll see updates to improve perf.

[viscid torrent]

Then again, 3070 at 4k with RT off, medium preset, and performance dlss might actually give a decent framerate??

[light sun]

literally cannot answer that because nobody has profiled inzoi to see if it's CPU-bound or GPU-bound on that configuration.

[viscid torrent]

It doesn't sound too outlandish. But at the same time it also does

[viscid torrent]

Difficult to answer as long as the game isn't out. That said, at higher resolutions the cpu becomes less important so you'll probably be somewhat ok?

[light sun]

i used to have a 2070 and an intel i5 from 2014 with like 4 cores.

[sudden anvil]

ok, thanks, Here's hoping I manage recommended at least...

[light sun]

i could play sekiro at 4k but i would get random stuttering if i had background apps.

[viscid torrent]

When I upgraded to a 1070 with my i5-6400 I had so many stutters in games because the cpu was just constantly running at 10000% lol

[light sun]

it's hard to answer because it depends on how the game is programmed and other stuff on the system, or even what you're doing in the game.

[slow oxide]

That would be true back in the RDNA1 days (2020-ish), but now they’re okay now

[dusky ember]

There's no exact answer to this, but in most simulation games, the CPU typically handles things like entity count and AI, while the GPU deals with graphics. Settings like texture quality impact the GPU more, whereas the number of active entities affects the CPU. It depends on how InZOI has their settings menu set up, and you'll need to tweak them to achieve the performance vs. quality ratio you want

If they have like a "Number of Entities" setting, you might turn that down, but can possibly keep the graphical settings at high

[slow oxide]

also i’d assume the cpu specs also factor in the sim speed

[viscid torrent]

Even RDNA1 was super good compared to R9 and early RX days

[light sun]

UDNA is going to be great but if you do any ML stuff it's going to be tough until then.

[slow oxide]

well go corpo and buy a H100 then

no use sticking around the 50 series for those if you’re doing big ML work on those

[light sun]

ironically MI is catching up

[dusky ember]

That's not really a good answer imo. There are a lot of hobbyists that do ML things or use company funds to buy a PC to work from home (Meaning they probably want to game too )

[sudden anvil]

That was my thinking as well, like the simulation will run slow, or the number of NPCs will be reduced... well... if things are bad, then there goes my savings in flames for the 14700k 😂

[slow oxide]

the Instinct lineup is starting to light a little fire under NV’s enterprise

would be mega wack if some insider leaked some benchmarks for the game

[viscid torrent]

14700K is not something you should buy, it has a lot of stability issues due to design flaws :(

[dusky ember]

Actually, I really doubt that there will be a huge difference. You're just down 4 threads. Games are not that optimized to run on multiple threads, so i doubt missing 4 threads is going to do anything

[slow oxide]

On an extreme example like Cities Skylines 2 on a TR 7995WX (shown in an LTT vid), it only used like 48 threads at most out of the 96 it has

[viscid torrent]

UE5 does like eating cpu's though. But it'll probably be pretty fine yeah

[slow oxide]

still pegged at 6 threads at most tho

[dusky ember]

That's purely a CPU intensive game though. I don't think inZOI is going to be more CPU heavy than GPU heavy, or will it be as CPU heavy as Cities Skylines 2, while still being more GPU heavy.

[slow oxide]

unless krafton pulls a funny and somehow parallelized inzoi to run on more threads

[high spindle]

We shall see! Hopefully that’s it.

[heady quail]

I meet/exceed all of the medium requirements except the gpu I have a 2060 gpu but it’s a laptop 2060

[slow oxide]

laptop 2060 = desktop 2050

wattage limited unfortunately

[dusky ember]

Actually...

Recommend CPU spec = 12700K or 7800X3D.

12700K is 20 threads (8p 4e cores)
7800X3D is 16 threads (8 cores)

So I mean... Is it really based on the thread count when going up in quality?

the 11700 and 5800X3D on medium are both 16 threads

[slow oxide]

Still doesn’t explain the need for extra v-cache for the ryzen side though

[dusky ember]

we both know the X3D chips in the spec sheet perform better than the intel chips in the sheet

[heady quail]

This doesn’t look bad for minimum

[rare scarab]

notice the blurry on the hair

[dusky ember]

Thats going to look like crap when the character starts moving

[heady quail]

It’s better than not being able to play at all

[viscid torrent]

Or they pull a Dragon's Dogma 2 and offload like the entire game to the cpu

[heady quail]

Some couldn’t even run the character creation

[dusky ember]

The dude's face is literally censored

Some people might be okay with that

[heady quail]

So did the specs go up??

[dusky ember]

I'm personally not

[heady quail]

I was hoping they’d optimize but ig not

[slow oxide]

Most of those are because of TS4 players getting a spec shock with the requirements

[dusky ember]

Graphically speaking the difference from min to med in the video is huge compared to the difference between the other graphic settings

min

med

[heady quail]

Yeah it is a really big jump

Why is that?

Sorry just tryna get knowledge

[dusky ember]

because the game is hard to run thats why

[slow oxide]

Because UE5

[dusky ember]

They probably just made the graphics as low as they possibly could so that they can "accomodate" lower end systems

[heady quail]

Ohhh okay I see

[viscid torrent]

Minimum has everything set to the lowest with pretty aggressive upscaling is my guess, so it'll look pretty blurry

[ember pendant]

quick question can a am4 motherboard run a ryzen 7 7700 or am I better off getting the amd ryzen 7 5700x3D

[heady quail]

People will find ways to work around it

[slow oxide]

that’s TAA for ya

[heady quail]

I’m glad medium looks okay tho

[dusky ember]

Probably so they can be like "Yo the game isn't that hard to run! You can play with a 2060!" but then have people walking like they are the flash

[viscid torrent]

7700 is AM5, best you can do is a 5700X3D, which is super good btw

[heady quail]

I thought medium would look like minimum

[heady quail]

Me with my 2060-

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ninjala-jane-hacker-hacking-computer-gif-20337624

[ember pendant]

okay thank you so much!! I wanted to get 7 5800X3D But they're so hard to find

[dusky ember]

Medium is probably the "real" minimum spec if you want decent graphics and performance. If you just want to be able to run the game regardless of graphical quality, then thats probably min.

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, they stopped producing those a while ago iirc

[slow oxide]

Im boutta swap to the 7600X3D if the v-cache stuff is really needed

[viscid torrent]

But the 5700X3D is almost identical in performance

[heady quail]

I’m sorry now this is super bad

[viscid torrent]

Since they even bother listing intel cpu's, the vcache is most likely not needed

[viscid torrent]

At least it still looks better than the sims :P

[rare scarab]

u think this game gonna be CPU hard than gpu?

[dusky ember]

LOL THAT JUST LOOKS LIKE ITS RUNNING AT A LOWER RESOLUTION

like its 480p or something

[heady quail]

You’re correct there!

I think people will be able to make it look the best they can

[winter goblet]

@viscid torrent is this any good? https://www.microcenter.com/product/677145/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-7600-xt-speedster-swft210-core-dual-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

[slow oxide]

a stupidly souped up 6-8 core chip should run it just fine

[winter goblet]

its 16gb but its 7600xt

[dusky ember]

im dead bruh, look at the feet

and the ground

[viscid torrent]

For that price no

[dusky ember]

the difference from min to med is insane

[winter goblet]

i can never have good stuff for cheap dang

[rare scarab]

recommended and high i didnt see much or im blind idk lol

[viscid torrent]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/688703/sparkle-intel-arc-b580-titan-overclocked-dual-fan-12b-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card
this could be interesting

[slow oxide]

well microcenter is the only place you could get a 9070 for 600 bucks

[dusky ember]

that price is above msrp

[winter goblet]

wont i have to uninstall amd adrenaline and download many more drivers

[slow oxide]

pretty CPU bound tho

[winter goblet]

i dont wanna leave amd adrenaline cause its just so easy and chill for me

[slow oxide]

well that’s the price you’re paying for more perf with that price

[winter goblet]

sigh

[slow oxide]

because the 7000 series gpus are pretty much old stock at this point

[dusky ember]

what is your current card

[winter goblet]

i might as well make my own gpu

[viscid torrent]

Yes, you will have to uninstall Adrenaline and use whatever it is that Intel uses

[winter goblet]

Radeon rx 580

[slow oxide]

Moores thread be like:

[dusky ember]

[winter goblet]

sighh

that will be made my last resort

[dusky ember]

what is your budget?

[slow oxide]

well in that case just hop on a used rx6800 or a very used up 7900gre if you still wanna go red

[dusky ember]

id say the 9070 is like the only thing worth getting at the lowest price

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, big downside, but a lot more future proof than the 4060 and 7600 XT due to the better performance

[dusky ember]

7000 and 4000 series aren't good for the prices they are going for now

unless you can get a used one

[winter goblet]

the cheaper the better \

[dusky ember]

then you just get the 7600XT then if price is an absolute

you really wouldn't care about price to performance in that case

because you dont have the luxury to consider other options

[winter goblet]

im open to getting a used one i just dont wanna buy one thats used and it explodes

[slow oxide]

or be like me and hop from a rx580 8gb to a used 6700xt for like 150$

[winter goblet]

my budget is 500-600

[dusky ember]

get a 9070 and undervolt it

[slow oxide]

Microcenter, 9070xt

[winter goblet]

lowkey maybe

[slow oxide]

no brainer

[winter goblet]

i just wanna run inzoi not on high graphios or eh

[dusky ember]

if you can spend the $600 then 9070 XT

bro it sounds like you already know what you want to get, you're just here for confirmation

[alpine lark]

qustion can hp latop run inzoi

[dusky ember]

if you dont want to spend that much then don't

[dusky ember]

1. that doesn't tell us anything
2. probably not

[viscid torrent]

Depends on the laptop. What are the specs?

[dusky ember]

need specs

[winter goblet]

what about this one? https://www.microcenter.com/product/684085/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt-speedster-swft-210-dual-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

[dusky ember]

for that price you just get a 9070 what are you on about lol

[alpine lark]

is a hp laptop 15 dy5xx

[winter goblet]

is that nividia?

[dusky ember]

no its new AMD

[slow oxide]

go for the 9070xt my friend, it’s got a good price on microcenter

[winter goblet]

ill check if its in stock

[viscid torrent]

No, that is not going to run the game

[winter goblet]

\dpends im in new york shit is gonna be expensive

[slow oxide]

just visit the store directly

[dusky ember]

9070 vs 7800XT and its only $30 more than what that listed price is

[alpine lark]

what laptop do i need to get?

[slow oxide]

they give you the msrp if you’re there physically

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, I think for the 9070 you're best of visiting the store directly rather than checking the site

[viscid torrent]

Depends on your budget I suppose :)

[winter goblet]

that while prob me next month tho like on the first

[dusky ember]

this idk, there has been news about how amd were selling these cards to stores before they announced msrp, and the price before was higher, and they only gave limited rebates.

[winter goblet]

cause i might bundle money (i need to buy new fans and stuff)

[winter goblet]

ouu

yeah my micro center online im not seeing anything just 7600-7900

[alpine lark]

the only game i have is the sims4 on mine and rolbox and minecraft

[dusky ember]

call them or go there and ask when their next restock is

they might tell you

might

[winter goblet]

ill call tmr then

[dusky ember]

they usually dont to avoid people lining up

[winter goblet]

when they open

[viscid torrent]

"i will tell you... if you solve my riddle"

[slow oxide]

if it was Minecraft with raytracing then i might say you can run inzoi but ehhhh

[winter goblet]

ill see if u can find the 9070 else where

[slow oxide]

you literally cannot find any msrp 9070s anywhere except microcenters

because of scalpers

[dusky ember]

You definitely will not find it online

[winter goblet]

i guess

[dusky ember]

They get bought by bots instantly

You will need to find a physical store

[winter goblet]

i have to sleep outside the micro center

sigh

[slow oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-improvivencia-todo-ok-ready-camping-gif-5170774740249991435

[winter goblet]

they open at 10 am i might as well

[slow oxide]

get camping

[winter goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/toxiqueney-mannequinney-quingifs-stan-twitter-city-girls-gif-3331255543763182507

[dusky ember]

all sold out

they were just stocked yesterday too

[winter goblet]

someone needs to drop me 200 more dollars

imma crash out

how do i get money from home

https://tenor.com/view/guy-falling-crying-ground-gif-26176850

THE NEW ONES ON AMAZONG

[dusky ember]

These are the only prices you should be buying at

[winter goblet]

ARE 1,200 DOLLARS???

[dusky ember]

they are not being sold by official vendors i guarantee

[slow oxide]

scalper paradise

[winter goblet]

that those look good

ugh scalpers are the vane of my existence

[slow oxide]

we’re telling you just go to the microcenter stores lmao

[dusky ember]

who the heck is "joe"

and why is he scalping cards

declaring war on all joes

[slow oxide]

complete with asus-certified TUF balls

[winter goblet]

the red flag was him name starting off with a " J "

i am just gonna save the current amount and then leave at like 6 am

and then get at the store before they open so i can snatch it up

i just hope the tax is not like $90

[dusky ember]

looking at the leaked specs for the 5060 it actually looks surprisingly good...

if its $299 it would actually be a good card

unfortunately only 8gb vram

[sturdy raven]

Device name ian
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.21 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
Device ID 3A8DB9C0-0342-4A93-AC05-C4B8AD2EF121
Product ID 00325-82207-38009-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

[dusky ember]

if you want to know if that can run the game you didn't provide the correct/enough information

the only relevant info is the CPU and RAM amount

[heady quail]

Anyone thought about this ?

[viscid torrent]

What graphics card do you have? You can check in task manager under the performance tab :)

[dusky ember]

No need to think about it when we all know its true

They didn't optimize as much as they could

[sturdy raven]

RTX 3070

[viscid torrent]

Well, from what I understand the high requirement is max graphics with ray tracing cranked up to the max. So it makes sense

[dusky ember]

If you really want to think about it though, that tweet is kind of stupid. CP2077 runs on their own engine while Inzoi uses UE5

[viscid torrent]

You'll be alright with running the game at like medium setttings

[heady quail]

Oooo okay

[viscid torrent]

Plus that

The game being UE5

[heady quail]

Dang

If only they took more time trying to optimize

They started developing only 3 years ago right?

[sturdy raven]

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.21 GHz]\

[heady quail]

Or not even?

[viscid torrent]

And people need to realize that brand new games are going to be made with new hardware in mind and no longer with the PS4 in mind

[heady quail]

Well yeah I get that

[unique obsidian]

12 years old

[viscid torrent]

The game seems pretty well optimized actually based on content creator experiences

[unique obsidian]

The ps5 is also very old now

[heady quail]

I think it’ll be a long time till alot of people start playing solely because of the requirements

[viscid torrent]

This one guy with an RTX 2080 was able to run the game pretty well on high graphics

[sturdy raven]

'm just worried my Intel Core i7 won't run it at all

[viscid torrent]

So the high requirements that are listed are either for 4K, or for everything all the way maxed out including RT, or both combined

Which is pretty realistic honestly

[sturdy raven]

what kind of system does the developers develop the game on

[viscid torrent]

It'll be fine,

[sturdy raven]

I have an Alienware m17r4

[ember pendant]

it does need to be opitimize more, they're definitely going to have to look into. I've played games like this that didn't require that much and it ran on super high graphics.

[sturdy raven]

ok

[slow oxide]

short answer: no
long answer: nooooooooo but yes if you somehow upgraded the ram to like 24 or 32 gigs

still gotta slam the settings to low tho

[dusky ember]

what do you mean? why does he need 24 or 32gb

[viscid torrent]

He'll be fine running the game on medium with his current setup

[dusky ember]

hes playing on a laptop, which has a 1080p monitor its going to be 1080p, and he has 16gb ram. hes not going to run it at any setting that would require 24gb

[slow oxide]

I mean if they’re planning to supersample it by going on a higher render res then maybe

[viscid torrent]

Wha

[dusky ember]

ah yes, if maybe the person is going to do something completely unneccesary to "running" the game

come on dude

🤦‍♂️

[slow oxide]

come off man

[viscid torrent]

Why wouldn't ge be able to run the game according to you?

[slow oxide]

I mean RAM is pretty important in sim games

and 32gb is basically the norm rn

[dusky ember]

Sure, but nothing you said is based on any data we have been provided

[sturdy raven]

have a 4K Asus gaming monitor

[slow oxide]

see^^^

[dusky ember]

LOL

[slow oxide]

told ya lmao

[viscid torrent]

Now that is a problem

[dusky ember]

You literally gave crap advice for the information we had before and then are retroactively trying to show me up because he gave more information

???

Plus RAM is THE LOWEST issue he would have at a higher res

[slow oxide]

just help the person instead of being argumentative

[dusky ember]

Be correct then?

[slow oxide]

well I’ll be next time

[viscid torrent]

If you game on just the laptop without the screen you'll be perfectly fine. But on the 4K monitor it will be a pretty rough experience

[slow oxide]

I’d wager low-med 2k/1440p at most

at most

[sturdy raven]

sorry the one I didn't mean to make everyone upset

[slow oxide]

nah the man is always like this from the old caz demo days

nothing I can’t handle

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-win-with-gg-well-played-well-done-good-sport-gif-13664765708906629936

''can i run this on ios'' ask someone calmly

[sturdy raven]

but the monitor also have Nvidia g-sync

[slow oxide]

that would help with turning off vsync for a minor boost

[dusky ember]

you will be fine

this is based off 4K

[viscid torrent]

I suppose that will help with the low fps you'll get :^)

[dusky ember]

recommended is 3070

the only thing is your CPU but you have a laptop so nothing you can do about that

[viscid torrent]

A desktop 3070, not a laptop 3070

[dusky ember]

yeah, i know, but he isn't going to run the game at 4k is he

[slow oxide]

laptop 3070 = desktop 3050ti-3060ti depending on wattage limits

[viscid torrent]

Laptop 3070 is basically a dekstop 3060, the cpu is pretty similar to the minimum cpu's listed

[dusky ember]

medium is with RT on. just turn it off

he will run the game as long as its not 4k

[slow oxide]

unironically this since ppl know UE5 is used in mobile too

but the M4 ipad pros might have a chance

[rare scarab]

is this game gonna get dlss 3 or 4?

[slow oxide]

considering those are basically macbooks on a slab

[dusky ember]

its not specified

[sturdy raven]

ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G16 16" OLED QHD 240Hz Gaming Laptop - Intel Core Ultra 9 - 32GB LPDDR5X - NVIDIA RTX 4090 - 2TB SSD - Eclipse Gray

[viscid torrent]

Yes but no. Fastest laptop 3070 is still only equal to a desktop 3060. That said, his laptop has a high tgp model

[rare scarab]

why i have feeling this game gonna have shader like call of duty lol

[winter goblet]

beyond ridiculous is crazy. mind ur business and dont play it then not talking about u syx im referring to the person in thess

[slow oxide]

CaZ demo says dlss 3 but we dunno for the release

[dusky ember]

There is no shot it doesn't have DLSS 3 or FSR 3

DLSS 4 really is only good for MFG

It won't apply to most people

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/dlss-gif-22015332

[slow oxide]

well given the NV sponsor we might just get that for the EA release

[slow oxide]

and mah missing ROPs

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

[sturdy raven]

didn't mean to make anybody mad

[viscid torrent]

DLSS 4 upscaling is pretty huge as well though

[dusky ember]

Performance wise or just visually?

[viscid torrent]

Just visually

[dusky ember]

Because afaik from the demos visually is the only difference

[slow oxide]

nah you’re good, like i said before the dude is just very “spirited” in nature

[dusky ember]

yeah

DLSS 3 is already good enough imo

[viscid torrent]

But yeah, I think we can probably expect dlss 4 for inzoi with how closely they already work with nvidia

[dusky ember]

Unless DLSS 3 performance vs DLSS 4 performance is that big of a jump i dont see upscaling being a bigger feature than DLSS 4 MFG

[viscid torrent]

I would love to see fsr 4 come to the game though

[sturdy raven]

I guess I should have just bought an Alienware desktop instead of a game laptop but I didn't know any better

[dusky ember]

that would be a big difference but i doubt it

from the demos i saw though FSR 4 performs worse than FSR 3 but is visually a lot better

[viscid torrent]

Well, if amd is smart they'll try and implement it asap in the most popular games right. And with inzoi being one of the hot new things and the 9070 having just released, I can see it coming to the game

[slow oxide]

maybe alienware desktops could be pretty good in 2025

[viscid torrent]

Fsr 3 looks awful visually

[slow oxide]

looking from the news

[dusky ember]

yeah thats what i said

there is a drop in performance when using FSR 4 over 3

[slow oxide]

no way FSR4 is gonna be in there because NV collab

[viscid torrent]

I will take the worse performance 4 has over 3 any day of the week

[dusky ember]

i mean, its like... 5% difference

[viscid torrent]

Well, it is already confirmed to have fsr 3.1, so I wouldn't see why fsr 4 couldn't come to it as well

[slow oxide]

with AFMF it’s not so bad

[dusky ember]

FSR 4 is not going to apply to a lot of people though relatively speaking

its going to be at most like 10% of the players

[slow oxide]

well before you account that they’re gonna backport it to 7000 cards

[dusky ember]

did they say that?

iirc they said it wasnt going to be

[slow oxide]

well https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-may-optimize-fsr-4/

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-win-with-gg-well-played-well-done-good-sport-gif-13664765708906629936

180 degree turn

[viscid torrent]

AMD has gone back and forth on this like 5 times now

[dusky ember]

from that article:

[viscid torrent]

They change their mind like every day almost

[dusky ember]

its literally a huge maybe

and it might not perform well if they do

[slow oxide]

but that only bumps it up to like 5-6% of players if the 7000 series was included

[viscid torrent]

Anyways, I do hope fsr 4 makes its way to the game

[slow oxide]

it’s not Radeon without shooting themselves in the foot once in a while

[dusky ember]

-170mV undervolt gives more boost clock headroom and lower temps while performing better than a 5080

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, the 9070 XT undervolts like crazy

[white jolt]

4080 for high quality interesting

[viscid torrent]

High requirements = ultra high graphics preset, max raytracing, and from what I understand 4k resolution

[white jolt]

7900 XTX or wait for 9070 XT 🤣

[viscid torrent]

They're both great options

[frail island]

bruh

[viscid torrent]

They should've really used a different name instead of high requirement

[white jolt]

lol

[frail island]

its fine for me i can run game at recom

[white jolt]

Yeah

[slow oxide]

which kind of ddr5 is kinda sketch

[white jolt]

Medium and recommended can play

[slow oxide]

also Asus RMA process is kinda ass

not even talking to the CEO of asus could solve it

[frail island]

what about u can run it ?

[viscid torrent]

Oh yeah, I meet the recommended requirement, nothing changed about that

[frail island]

nice

[viscid torrent]

I'll still upgrade my gpu soon™️ though

[white jolt]

Ultra is just for taking a picture not playing lol

[frail island]

we gonna see some mixed reviews soon

on steam

[frail island]

yea bruh

[viscid torrent]

Because 8gb of vram for 1440p is just not it

[frail island]

recom is high

im sticking with 4070 little longer

12 gb vram

only cpu will change in the future

[viscid torrent]

I'm mainly still confused about the cpu's they recommend as it just doesn't make much sense

[frail island]

im on i712700 gen

hit that spot xd

[viscid torrent]

I have a 5700X3D which is above the recommended requirements

Yet also not

Because they listed two cpu's that are vastly different in performance, I don't get it

[frail island]

yea

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-win-with-gg-well-played-well-done-good-sport-gif-13664765708906629936

[viscid torrent]

Why list the 5800X3D for medium and then list a cpu that's slower in the recommended requirements?

[frail island]

wait min medium high recom and ultra

what the heck is that

recom new thing

😂

[frail island]

im def gonna use dlss

[rare scarab]

should just include what reso suitable for that

[viscid torrent]

Whatever that means

[rare scarab]

im just scared they think the high requirment is like 1080p 9800x3d lol

[viscid torrent]

Because a 3070 at 4k just sounds super silly

[viscid torrent]

High is 99% 4k everything maxed out

Because in no universe is it going to be a 14700k and 4080 for 1080p max graphics

[frail island]

im glad at 1440p monitor

@viscid torrent recom and ultra looks almost same

i can't see any difference

[viscid torrent]

Then again, Wukong at 1080p only does like 70 fps on a 4080...

[viscid torrent]

But the fact that they list this seems like the high requirement is for 4k

[frail island]

good that recom looks good

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, recommended looks great

[frail island]

never heard of recom before lol

setting

[rare scarab]

bro hair become whitter for reason

[viscid torrent]

Basically identical to the high requirement

[frail island]

thats good

[viscid torrent]

Or at least, I can't really see much difference between recommended and high

[frail island]

yea

same

[rare scarab]

maybe if zoomed in we can see

but who tf do that lol

[frail island]

i just want fps

xd

some good balance

[rare scarab]

if i can get 100 i would be happy

[viscid torrent]

I tried zooming in but still didn't really spot much. Some stuff in the background seemed to have higher detail, but outside of that I at least couldn't spot anything

Recommended graphics preset honestly seems like the best way too go, best balance between visuals and performance

[frail island]

yea

[rare scarab]

I wanna try play at 720p

🤣

[viscid torrent]

Alright, just turn on dlss and you'll be playing at 720p

[frail island]

lmao

u guys turning dlss ?

on

[viscid torrent]

If I still have my 3070 when the game releases then yes

[frail island]

what about me

should i turn on

or no

[viscid torrent]

That's up to you

[frail island]

alright

[viscid torrent]

I personally turn it on because the fps boost it gives is really nice, and the visual difference with dlss 3.5 and 4 has gotten small enough that I don't really notice it

[frail island]

yea i guess i will turn it on

but min looks the worst

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, the minimum preset looks pretty bad

[frail island]

bless the heavens

bruh

[viscid torrent]

But if that's something someone doesn't mind then it's still a great way to play the game

[frail island]

damn recom too good

[viscid torrent]

And up-close the characters still look good

[frail island]

yea

the difference tho

recom and high same thats good

[viscid torrent]

But yeah, I'm just patiently waiting for the 9070 XT to be not permanently sold put everywhere

[frail island]

going to amd

hmm

but i will stick with nvidia

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, the 9070 and 9070 XT are better and cheaper than what Nvidia has to offer so easy choice

[frail island]

oo its stock in dubai

that gpu

[viscid torrent]

Over here as well but only for scalper prices

[frail island]

yea nearly 3k

dhs

[viscid torrent]

The msrp models are constantly sold out

[frail island]

expensive

[rare scarab]

🤣

No point having 599 gpu price

if scalp hard like this

[frail island]

idk whats so cheap

lol

[viscid torrent]

I wish it was 599

[frail island]

😂

[vale maple]

The only thing I don’t reach medium settings on is my cpu lmao

[viscid torrent]

Europe msrp is 690

[rare scarab]

It was 620$ here in my coutry

[vale maple]

My 10600K is gonna get fried

[viscid torrent]

What's your cpu?

[vale maple]

i5-10600Kp

Idk why I typed p

Ignore that

10600K

There’s gonna be smoke coming from my pc

[viscid torrent]

10600K is almost equal in gaming performance to the 11700 that's recommended for medium so you're fine

[rare scarab]

not really

[viscid torrent]

The stores that offer them for 695 are permanently sold out. The moment any are available they're sold within seconds

[rare scarab]

bot buying that

here salary are shit, even at msrp no one can afford it

[frail island]

u changing everything lol

or just gpu

[rare scarab]

i love europe can instantly buy cause the cost is quarter their salary

[viscid torrent]

Megekko? More like Scalpgekko

[viscid torrent]

Just gpu, nothing else needs upgrading

[frail island]

do u think 4070 intel12700 good so far for me

only cpu i will plan in future to upgrade

maybe

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, that's fine

[frail island]

alright

my ram already drr5 32 gb 6000mhz

[viscid torrent]

12700 still holds up well and the 4070 is still a very decent gpu

[frail island]

cool

[vale maple]

Is medium 1080P

[viscid torrent]

From what I understand, yes

[vale maple]

Is minimal also 1080p

[viscid torrent]

I think so

[white jolt]

Why so much 💀

No one can afford those

[viscid torrent]

Wdym, plenty of people can afford that

That said, nobody is buying that for obvious reasons

[white jolt]

Wait what current is that

[viscid torrent]

Euro

[white jolt]

I thought its a scam for 1120 usd

[viscid torrent]

It is

[frail island]

9070 equal what gpu

nvidia

[viscid torrent]

Which is why I said what I said there

Megekko? More like Scalpgekko

[white jolt]

lol scalpgekko

[viscid torrent]

Biggest tech store in the country pulling bs like this, they've been getting a ton of backlash lol

[white jolt]

Good keeps calling them out

So that everyone can buy at 690+ euro

[viscid torrent]

4070 Ti

[frail island]

ah ok

nearly my

[viscid torrent]

Not nearly

[frail island]

LOL

that prices xd

[white jolt]

….

[viscid torrent]

9070 is like 20-25% faster than the 4070

[white jolt]

Rip $699

[frail island]

this my gpu btw

it came out end of 2023

[rare scarab]

9070 16gb vram?

[viscid torrent]

it has 16gb yeah

[frail island]

is my 12 gb vram good ?

[winter goblet]

If only it was SOLD OUTTT

[rare scarab]

for now yeah

[viscid torrent]

As long as you don't plan on gaming at 4k then yes

[frail island]

💀

im still at 1440p

[winter goblet]

He totally was planning too

[rare scarab]

i think nvidia 40 series for 4 k if you don want headache is 4070tisuper lol

cause of the vram

https://tenor.com/view/sofia-evil-sofia-smile-sofia-evil-sofia-sofia-smile-evil-gif-17136867

[frail island]

but will it affect that much

never thought

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, the higher the resolution the more vram you need

[frail island]

ah i see

im glad at 1440p monitor

[frail island]

u at 1440 p as well ?

[viscid torrent]

Yes

[frail island]

nice

[viscid torrent]

Which is why I want to upgrade, 8GB just doesn't cut it anymore

[frail island]

btw u gonna play wwe new game ?

idk u like that xd

it was my childhood

[rare scarab]

he’s pushing rank in new shooter game

[frail island]

lmao

[frail island]

yep

[viscid torrent]

I have never watched or played wwe before, not something that interests me

[frail island]

its fun for me cuz my rise mode

character creation for fights

your own character

[frail island]

but u should play star citizen its fun af

space ship game

[viscid torrent]

Also not something I'm interested in :v

[frail island]

💀

[winter goblet]

Imagine you buy the 9070 n then as u got home someone steals it

[rare scarab]

shit game lol, too ambitious and taking 10 years just for alpha

[frail island]

he lives in Netherlands

[viscid torrent]

It's me, I'm the one that steals it

[frail island]

i assume crimes happens there

[frail island]

better than starfield that's for sure

[winter goblet]

I would cry so bad

[viscid torrent]

That's a pretty low bar

[rare scarab]

of course, thats why it take 10 years just for alpha

[frail island]

no idea

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-hop-on-anime-girl-kiss-hop-on-star-citizen-gif-25186724

wtf was this gif

[frail island]

💀

[viscid torrent]

Star citizen clearly the best lesbian game

[frail island]

bruh

this game better than skull and bones

10/10 game

[rare scarab]

I have 280 hours in that game, it just i dont have interested to play anymore. maybe another time

[viscid torrent]

Also an extremely low bar. That said, it is a very silly and actual good game

[frail island]

lmao

yazkua good game

legends know this game

10/10 story

https://tenor.com/view/takayuki-yagami-yagami-judgment-judge-eyes-lost-judgment-gif-15386736137681807747

detective

[rare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-peak-peak-yakuza-funny-nike-gif-539772214759420408

I have friend that only play counter strike for whole life

doesnt care to try other game

[frail island]

i quit that game long time ago

boring

[winter goblet]

RRRRRAYYYYYANNNN

[frail island]

what

[winter goblet]

Hold on

I have to send my gif

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-jump-brandon-buell-funny-gif-23841418

[frail island]

yes

[slow oxide]

ah yes, Sono Hanabira

[winter goblet]

Okay so with my current set up. I can play like minimum right?

U prob won't remember ugh

[frail island]

what is ur gpu

[winter goblet]

Let me write

Cpu: ryzen 5 5600X
Gpu: Radeon 580X (gonna be upgraded if I get that 9070)
Ram: 32gb

[frail island]

min looks not that good

[winter goblet]

Uh idk what else am I missing

[frail island]

9070 u can run at recom or high

[winter goblet]

My gpu is a 8gb sigh

[winter goblet]

Thats if I manage to find it sigh