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reef vine
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Me realizing I'm madly in love with A CUTE DOOFY CARTOON MAN

tidal glacier
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Cheers Miss polka (don't want to disturb with tagging) πŸ™‚

worn wolf
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Oke, meme drop and sleep time 🀣

gusty patio
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if im playing the game for the first time should i play with some mods first or go at it fresh?

cunning jacinth
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fresh definitely

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make your first save a vanilla save and mod any future ones if you choose

gusty patio
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ah right

cunning jacinth
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@worn wolf #inzoi-chat message what part of Canada relative to the US? Midwest, Great Plains, wha

gusty patio
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ive watched my friend play and i saw mupliayer is coming this year

cunning jacinth
worn wolf
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The north is WAY worse πŸ’€

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My city is considered one of rhe warmer ones

cunning jacinth
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east to west I mean. what longitude

worn wolf
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Its more central, but i guess east

cunning jacinth
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that's basically Midwest lol explains some things. I live under the Lakes and got some of your snow

worn wolf
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This is the highway rn

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And across the wall is the highway going the other way, not a random hill πŸ’€

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And gf is very worried about me driving in this weather 🀣

pliant tree
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Id be worried myself.

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Looks slippery as hell

fossil meadow
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I swear someone on the sims team knows who I am because wtf is someone who looks exactly like my OC (mask and all) in the new royalty trailer WHEEZE

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My fictional nation from a story me and my friend came up with
Has a nation that is very venice masquerade inspired where everyone upperclass wears masks to "uphold" true love (it's not actually upheld they use it for power and control by spreading gossip and rumours what people "really look like" under their masks)

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And my boy β„’ is king WHEEZE All this guy is missing in design is his scar down one side of the face and a full face mask

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I used to post my legacy back over on tumblr but decided to delete my blog and now regret it kermit

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Man back when I used to be an alpha CC player WHEEZE and had a height mod jfgdhf

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Finding lots of mask CC without having to make it myself (which at the time I did not know what to do because I used to be 2D art only) was PAINFUL especially when I REALLY wanted my boy to have a full face mask but most CC I could find was like
Dead by Daylight ports and Sims 3 wall decor turned CAS assets kermit

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Most recent image of my guy β„’ from when I switched to more maxis match CC (with my own spin using that one Arcane skin overlay)

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My biggest fear with this DLC is it'll break the Royalty mod and Bridgerton/regency mods because the game features are too similar kermit
I still haven't recovered after Mortem mod got taken down after Life and Death

zenith dirge
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He actually looks better hereblob3c

fossil meadow
zenith dirge
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Meh…honestly Romeo and Juliet was creepy anyway

fossil meadow
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They are the Capp family in the game but does seem to be doing the Sims 4 approach of
They're nothing like who they used to be in past games

zenith dirge
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I might get it actually blob3c

fossil meadow
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They've done the thing I really hate with the recent worlds where neighbourhoods of a world are vastly different to each other despite being a world
This is one world and I BELIEVE based on Africa
But they've made each neighbourhood entirely different parts of the continent from what I can tell from the screens

pliant tree
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I dont recognize this game.

zenith dirge
fossil meadow
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This last year especially has really put me off kermit I love royalty stuff but this, from the trailer, has a lot of signature things that made me dislike the last few Sims 4 DLC

zenith dirge
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From the northern coasts of Africa to the isles of Greece and Italy

fossil meadow
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Worlds aren't really livable to me when so many areas are vastly different to each other
It's why I dislike Innisgreen so much because I find only 33% of it is liveable for what theme I want

zenith dirge
zenith dirge
fossil meadow
worn wolf
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Ironic since im currently boarding a plane to Egypt πŸ’€

fossil meadow
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Like ohhh we just put a celtic looking rock on the floor

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A lot of the neighbourhoods in general are really empty and/or inaccessible even parts that are in the middle of the map

zenith dirge
zenith dirge
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It’s why places like Tomarang are dead as hell

worn wolf
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Just watched the trailer. I'd highly urge to wait for reviews from non influencers since we know how the sims love painting πŸ’© in gold

pliant tree
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What game are yall talking about?

zenith dirge
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TS4

pliant tree
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Oh... hah... smoke and mirrors!!!!

fossil meadow
# zenith dirge They’re compensating for the lack of open world

It just sucks for legacy play when I am forced to one tiny little neighbourhood for the themes I want instead of having a whole world to play in
Since 4-5 lots in each neighbourhood gets filled pretty fast instead of having 12-15 lots to play around with to make lots of families and locations
It's been an issue this past year and seems to be their new approach but it means I end up playing a lot still in older worlds

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Which makes it worse when they keep making 60% of new packs gameplay be tied to the new world crying1

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What do you mean I can't do bug catching unless I specifically live in Gibbi Point

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Why can't they spawn in other worlds???

zenith dirge
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It’s why non-base game collectibles are exclusive to their respective worlds

fossil meadow
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I am interested in this pack but it does feel too late for me kermit Also I don't want the royalty mod or the regency mod to go the same way as Mortem after Life and Death

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I REALLY just want a new legacy version of Sims 4 because, even with bugs and issues, I'm happy where my game is at and with the mods I play with
Even as a royalty legacy player I'm still mostly looking for something that is truly new

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and this modernised Sims 4 they teased last year and people keep calling a remaster
Isn't it for me either (especially since they outlined it alongside their plans to make a shared marketplace across all games crying1 which sounded like it'd be microtransaction hell to me)

zenith dirge
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I just want the next title already…

fossil meadow
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Yeah I really want a Sims 5
Something truly built from the ground up with new and fresh ideas
Inzoi is filling a lot of that hole for me but I do like a lot of the staples of the Sims IP too
And I feel Paralives also won't fill that niche for me either

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I think I need Sims to be my soap opera WHEEZE

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Since it's the closest thing I can at least describe the older parts of the IP as

zenith dirge
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I guess blob3c

fossil meadow
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Sims 4 falls short but I can still brute force it into being my soap opera

zenith dirge
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Try TS1

fossil meadow
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I play all the Sims games still WHEEZE Mostly Sims 2 at the moment

zenith dirge
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Now that’s a soap that’ll tear your hair out

fossil meadow
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TS1 I do play the least but I think it's largely because I like to keep it nostalgic

zenith dirge
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I’ll be honest though

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TS4 does not make good drama

eternal willow
zenith dirge
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Their reactions are so tame and the consequences are so minuscule

pliant tree
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I 'tried' to get TS3 to run .. just too many hoops to jump through gave up.

fossil meadow
# zenith dirge TS4 does not make good drama

Yeah you do have to really strong arm it at times
I have a lot of mods that do the heavy lifting
Which is why as much as I'm interested in this DLC it doesn't actually add much
Since it's just Royalty mod + Regency mod
and I worry it'll be like Life and Death where the mods did a lot of things better and they got retired because of the DLC
crying1 (I'll never get over Mortem and their death and funeral system mod going down after Life and Death coming out)

scarlet hearth
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-# S1 Doodle_Heart

verbal gulch
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I just seen the trailer too, ugh I hate that I like the look of it, of course it was missing a king doing sit ups though

scarlet hearth
verbal gulch
verbal gulch
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Not even surprised πŸ˜…

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Also TS4 gets bought by a Saudi prince then this comes out... πŸ’…

steep heart
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morning y'all

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heard there was some couch dlc for TS4 lmao

fossil meadow
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I'd be sweating

verbal gulch
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I know right? Lmao, I know it's not because of the buy out that this was made, it was just bad timing 🀣

fossil meadow
verbal gulch
fossil meadow
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crimson brook
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Can't wait for vampires in inzoi

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I'ma turn the whole town πŸ¦‡

verbal gulch
fossil meadow
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I was recently playing Vampire and found out how many mods I used to play with as an occult player are either broken or I can't find anymore kermit

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I think occult players are dwindling for Sims 4
But that might be because I don't interact with the wider community as much
But I don't see much posted about them and even after fairies

verbal gulch
spiral kelp
fossil meadow
verbal gulch
fossil meadow
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reef vine
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gimme 'pires 'wolves and witches and i'm happy

verbal gulch
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Just gimme vampires, they're dry half bat people, which is obviously the best kind of half people πŸ’…

scarlet hearth
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-# Dhampir πŸ’ƒ

reef vine
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Lol never saw this

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Somehow

fossil meadow
verbal gulch
verbal gulch
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He may aswell be a hairy fish people πŸ’€

fossil meadow
# verbal gulch That's not better!

But it's angstier
It's dramatic
Now they can think about how, no matter how hard they try, they never seem to be able to catch that tail they chase
Much to think
Much to learn

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My favourite trope people do not do enough is
Fancy and elegant werewolves
Scruffy and "lumberjack" style vampires

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City werewolves who live there because they only transform once a month and can schedule a "buisness trip" for a few days
Vampires who live in the woods so they're far away from the temptation of people and their blood

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I don't want my vampires unless they look like they just crawled out of a cave like a bat

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"I haven't seen daylight in years and I look like it"

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I say that like my current vampire isn't a rich elegant guy living in a castle in Sims 4
WHEEZE I did say I don't see other people do enough and that includes me

verbal gulch
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wheat merlin
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I just don't understand the user sometimes shows her income in public on Facebook. Welp we can see how low getting paid directly from social media. πŸ€“

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Anyway, today is my last shift! 😸

open frost
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Just watched the sims 4 trailer. Is it just me or is there barely any new content in it aside from a 'royal' family tree + job i guess or whatever it'll be,, some dances and sword fighting? All the other stuff is already in the game in some form.

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Just seems like they're trying to sell some vibes instead of actual gameplay

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Which is no surprise of course

verbal gulch
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(I still want an Inzoi version though πŸ˜… )

open frost
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I dont want it in Inzoi, but I would like a dynasty mechanic, but more in the sense of rich chaebol families which would fit Inzoi's identity more.

verbal gulch
open frost
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But maybe that'll come sooner rather than later with the reputation system that's on the roadmap for Q1

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I dont think monarchy gameplay fits the current Inzoi dynamic though. It'd have to be more in the sense of major trust fund nepo babies inheriting their parents multi billion meow businesses, or Godfather esque crime dynasties

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Or an active political career where you can become mayor or president and make policies for the city that affect its crime rates and such

crimson brook
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Man that trailer did not give expansion pack at all that was a game pack at best

fossil meadow
wheat merlin
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I no longer interested of TS4 new packs. I'm terribly behind on packs and ain't paying all packs from my mortgage.

fossil meadow
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I think they're using dynasty in the more modern sense where it could also be applied to long standing family buisnesses and not just rulers

crimson brook
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Someone said the sword fighting is recycled from Batuu

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πŸ’€

wheat merlin
crimson brook
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People still begging for bands like they really ending their sims 4 run with no cars or bands πŸ’€

wheat merlin
fossil meadow
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I would love Inzoi to have a royal/dynasty system too but maybe the more modern sense
You can be a ruler/monarch/etc but it's more the modern sense where your job is mostly to go around to events and have pictures taken WHEEZE and say "we should all get along in these trying times" every year at Christmas
But also having it be the business sense where you can have your children fight to be the heir to your fortune and business Succession style

crimson brook
crimson brook
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I've given my life to Inzoi

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I beg you don't let me down

open frost
wheat merlin
crimson brook
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Omg that so cute I missed that

fossil meadow
# crimson brook People still begging for bands like they really ending their sims 4 run with no ...

I'll be real I don't think the rumours Sims 4 is ending is true
At the investor talk last year which is still recent enough they talked about "modernising" Sims 4 and making it have an online shared market place, online social platform and shared gallery with the other games they're coming out with (Project Rene/Town Stories/MySims)
I actually think what they're working on is a live service version of Sims 4

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Battle passes were the first start of that plan

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Since it came out alongside the investor talk

wheat merlin
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When I returned playing TS4. I was trying to control WASD. Oh you're not in inZOI. 🀣

fossil meadow
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So we might get bands but WHEEZE if the game is always online

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I also think this is how they plan to get around arrrr people in the future too

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If it's always online and live service it's a lot harder to 🦜

crimson brook
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Sims 3 bands were lit

open frost
crimson brook
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It was hard leveling up though I had to download a mod to get more gigs

wheat merlin
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Welp Paralives will soon release so TS4 will drop dramatically...

crimson brook
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Those arrr people gonna be pissed off

wheat merlin
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Simmers don't like inZOI because of realisim. They can play Paralives..

open frost
crimson brook
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I'm still looking forward to paralives as well

fossil meadow
# open frost I mean the EA CEO literally thinks Dragon Age Veilguard failed because 'people o...

I share this talk a lot but A LOT of the community missed it and even a lot of the sims news skirted over what a lot was said
https://youtu.be/yP9zM3fa3Ws?si=viRmPsQypokU4Zv-&t=133
But so far everything has come true even down to them wanting to be powered by AI
The only thing we know least about is the way they plan to modernise Sims 4 but this makes it sound like they want it to be an online live service platform

open frost
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I hope im wrong but... all content they showed is text and cozy aesthetics.

fossil meadow
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It'd be weird for them to boldly tell investors they plan to keep Sims 4 going on for years to come then pull the plug within a year

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Especially as all their plans are in motion

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Mobile Project is called Town Stories btw

wheat merlin
fossil meadow
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Project Rene's current going name is Life together

open frost
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Ive made peace that im no longer the target audience of Sims tbh. It's okay because Inzoi does target me

wheat merlin
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Welp... better start working.... uhhh can't wait to play inZOI whole week. 🀣

wheat merlin
fossil meadow
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Like they don't even seem to be going for Gen Z at this point who are aging into the current Sims demographic ages

open frost
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Still hate them for what they did to my dear Dragon Age

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Sims audience is more gullible than the average RPG audience though

fossil meadow
# open frost I wouldn't be surprised if all of these decisions end up killing Sims as they ki...

Yeah EA refuses to age with it's demographics
Pulling in newer younger people is great but not at the cost of your core demographic
Like Veilguard isn't a "bad game" if it was any other franchise or a new IP
But it fundementally misunderstood the Dragon Age demographic and talked down to us like we were 13 years olds experiencing fantasy politics with real world influences for the first time

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Like I'm sorry I did NOT need to be handheld through so many of the conversations in that game

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So many characters literally look into the camera and go
"And this is bad because xyz! here's a really long explanation why xyz is actually bad"
I KNOW IT'S BAD

open frost
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And then that douche of a CEO dares to say yeah its because it should've been a live service

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πŸ’€ πŸ’€ πŸ’€ πŸ’€

fossil meadow
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I actually used to want to work at Bioware a decade ago
But seeing the development of Veilguard and more and more people I knew from the studio leave
I was like crying1 maybe I need a new dream studio
I always knew David Gaider leaving would be felt but I think losing so many veterans and EA's push to be like other games rather than innovate
It just stopped being a Dragon Age game entirely

scarlet hearth
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-# I only heard about how the story is for latest DA but never tried...

open frost
fossil meadow
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They actually tried to make Dragon Age Veilguard online live service then decided last minute after Anthem failed

scarlet hearth
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πŸ˜‘...

fossil meadow
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It was originally being made on Anthems engine

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Or well at some point

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There's about 6 versions of veilguard at this point

open frost
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Yeah how dense do you have to be to then say this

fossil meadow
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They officially pulled the plug on Anthem recently but nooo we need more

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Two days ago

open frost
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The only reason it failed is because they were barely given any proper time to salvage the live service garbage they were forced to make into a viable single player experience

fossil meadow
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Or three WHEEZE It was this month at least

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I do think Bioware will be shut down after Mass Effect

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That's the only people left at Bioware
The Dragon Age team has been entirely disbanded, laid off or moved over to other studios/projects

open frost
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I fear for that new Mass Effect game.

fossil meadow
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My biggest fear is the buyout will be used as an excuse for every studio shutdown and failed game but I think the writing has been on the wall for years

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Like with Bioware and the plans EA has with Sims

open frost
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Bioware's people are better off with other studios tbh as much as it hurts me

fossil meadow
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Yeah same like I said it used to be my DREAM studio to work at
Like I'd be willing to relocate to Canada for it if I got the job offer
But the studio is so different now and I do think they're slowly shutting it down

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I don't think there's any new announced projects from the studio other than Mass Effect

scarlet hearth
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-# Hmm... it's like my fav franchises are going down, with VtMB 2 development issues and this

fossil meadow
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That said the game industry is the most unpredictable thing WHEEZE Look at Hytale

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Literally got cancelled a few months back, the old creator bought it back, they got an earlier I believe pre-Riot build of the game and then worked hard for two-three months to finally release it

open frost
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I also am happy Larian took inspiration from Dragon Age when making BG3 and I hope they continue down that road for their new Divinity game, especially with how they handled the companions.

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Ill sit through all the gory details like they showed in the trailer as long as they give me some loveable companions again lol

fossil meadow
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The lessons from BG3's success was already largely in part in DA

open frost
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Yeah, they mashed the amazing stuff from Dragon Age's golden days with their own amazing Divinity stuff and slammed some DnD on top of it and bam, best game ever

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It's why I keep telling BG3 fans to play Dragon Age. It scratches the same itch in many ways

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Especially the ones that love BG3 for the companion gameplay

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Like you think Gale or Astarion are hot you've not met Alistair my friend

fossil meadow
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Alistair whine3

open frost
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Or my boy Cullen

scarlet hearth
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-# Nice picks

open frost
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(Still devastated about how much of a piece of trash his voice actor turned out to be)

fossil meadow
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DA2 was Anders for me
I absolutely hated that I love him but that made him more fun for me as a character

fossil meadow
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End of DA2 being like
Okay now
What is THIS Anders?!

open frost
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Fenris for me

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Fenris voice makes my knees turn to mush

fossil meadow
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I do like Fenris too
TBH I think DA2 has the strongest characters for me even if the overall game was rushed

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They made that game in a year from start to finish and it makes me nauseated to think about

open frost
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Oh yeah I actually had a hard time picking a romance partner in DA2 I loved everyone

open frost
fossil meadow
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Or well a year and a half in total
Meaning like
From writing and concept all the way to release fear

fossil meadow
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I actually suspect some of the conversations were written by non-writers or AI because some cutscenes are so disjointed

open frost
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Yes and the ones that remained were barely given any time to polish their writing. The entirety of Veilguard has that 'cringe first draft' vibe that then got edited by HR for some cheap fake inclusivity PR

fossil meadow
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Taash's coming out scene to their mother as non-binary is so
Disjointed??? it's like two characters having a conversation
And it's not even like it's an intentional miscommunication/different backgrounds conversation
They're literally having two different conversations to each other

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As a non-binary person myself it actually was like chalk on a board for me because it hit all the stereotypes with Taash

open frost
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Hate how they butchered Taash into some cringe fest.

fossil meadow
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Taash's mother: I'm sorry if I'm getting things wrong but this sounds like [established trans lore from the franchise for the Qunari]. Is it like that?
Taash, yelling: WHY CAN'T YOU BE HAPPY FOR ME???

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Then the options if only for me to say the mother was out of line and agree with Taash
Like nah I think Taash was overly emotional and not listening to a mother that was just trying to learn and understand
I want to call that out

open frost
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It's like.... you had Krem as a trans guy in Inquisition, who was done really well. What happened to the skills they used on him??

fossil meadow
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He wrote like 70% of everyone's favourite characters and was a big reason DA and Bioware as a whole was so LGBT+ forward

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He's been a long term voice for making the games industry more inclusive

open frost
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Krem was written by Patrick Weekes though who was the lead writer for Veilguard as well (they're gone now too). Weekes wrote Taash

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I feel like Taash was their first draft and they were never given the opportunity to add more depth and Nuance to the cringe sketch they wrote

fossil meadow
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I think Taash got rewritten late
Like very late into development

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The scenes with them feel really AI at times crying1

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At the time EA was pushing AI onto their writers

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Then laid off a lot of them

open frost
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Yeah a lot of stuff in Veilguard feels like 'here's the stereotype, we wanted to expand on those later but weren't given the time so the execs just used our stereotype base templates' lol

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And then there's the outliers like Emmrich who was written really well

fossil meadow
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I did see someone say once that as a writer Weekes is really good but not as a lead writer and I do think that explain a lot about DAV
There's some good writing there and some good ideas but the overall execution was just bad

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Not just on writing but like
Writing was always what carried DA through all it's past rough patches

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DA2 is one of the worst made games I've ever played WHEEZE I mean it's understandable but the jankiness of that game is painful and they reuse the same places 2000 times but just seal off random areas so you always get lost and run into doors that are now closed
The story though ok_face Oh man I'll replay DA2 a thousand times just for the story and I can overlook everything else wrong with it because of it

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DAV is actually a good game when you look into mechanics and how it plays
I probably will never replay it

open frost
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I never played them properly chronologically lol. I went from Origins to Inquisition to DA2, back to Inquisition, then Veilguard and then Origins again lol

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My DA keep is a mess

scarlet hearth
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-# I'm on DA2 after replaying Origins years ago Doodle_Psycat_Sit the crash at Denerim was painful

fossil meadow
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That said though speaking of failed games I really am surprised how much I'm enjoying Hytale
It's not Vintage Story level of being my main block game but kermit man how did Riot fumble this game and never release it

reef vine
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ooh how is Hytale?

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It looks cute and customizable so potential big win there

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is it a lot like minecraft?

fossil meadow
# reef vine is it a lot like minecraft?

So I'd say in some ways yes, in a lot of ways no
I think it IS closer to Minecraft than Vintage Story like it won't punish you if you try to play it like Minecraft like Vintage Story does
But it does entirely feel different
I think it's more sandbox RPG than sandbox Survival

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I actually think the only thing I'm disliking with Hytale is the no hunger bar
There's a lot of food and ways to grow different crops but it's more for buffs than anything else
When I'm more of a person who likes food to matter for survival reasons
But that's like
It
That's the only flaw I'm finding

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It's very exploration focused too

reef vine
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hmm, may not be my thing cause im not very into MC πŸ₯΄

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im hopping back onto WWM

fossil meadow
# reef vine hmm, may not be my thing cause im not very into MC πŸ₯΄

I will say things have more purpose than minecraft which is what I've always struggled with MC
Like they add so much cool stuff but you look at it go "wow" and then rarely use or interact with it again
Hytale everything seems to have a use so far and there's a lot of linear progression so you always can decide what to work on next and know what to do next

sharp siren
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πŸ‘€

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Hmm, I thought that you’d left this server, Henry

fossil meadow
sharp siren
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Cool

errant wedge
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versed olive
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plush carbon
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reef vine
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god i have no energy to do anything today

flat nimbus
frank cobalt
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so much waving lately

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πŸ‘‹

wheat merlin
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As my last day shift.. I'm having subway. 😜

reef vine
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goodness i am exhausted

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boredom is badly taking its toll

obtuse sigil
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Hi, just saw jerma play the iniitial launch in a yt vid and now im interested, last game like this for me was the sims 3 ll

worn wolf
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Made it to Egypt for a layover flight

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Got delayed and my next flight is tomorrow, so going to see the pyramids 🀣

wheat merlin
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Zup at Egypt?

worn wolf
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Travelling to europe, but we had a terrible winter storm in canada amd missed the connection

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We also got put up in a 5 star hotel 🀣

wheat merlin
worn wolf
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Its like 16c in Egypt, so pretty warm

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Its like may temp

wheat merlin
worn wolf
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Standart winter temp 🀣

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Summer temp is like 40c

cunning jacinth
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egypt in winter is also peak, just stay away from tourist traps

zenith dirge
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That’s just about nearly everything except the museums and ruins and churches, Dath

ruby nacelle
scarlet hearth
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-# πŸ‘€ Quantic Dream games are really cheap atm

dreamy ferry
cunning jacinth
#

detroit alone is worth it

dreamy ferry
#

oh my gosh, is anyone else super excited for the new life is strange

#

i cannot stop being mega excited for it

dreamy ferry
#

i’m going spain again this year 5020allmyfellas

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an hopefully scotland and then in march i’m going down the south of england to a cabin

scarlet hearth
#

-# The new game is not by DONTNOD? I've been slowly playing their games Psycat_Holiday_Sparkle

ruby nacelle
#

Had my first ozempic injection i feel sick a bit

dreamy ferry
#

They’re doing an announcement on the 20th!!!

#

Game trailer!

ruby nacelle
#

how is everyone

warm dew
#

If you continue to feel super sick as you take the injection each week, it may be worth it to maybe message your prescribing doctor about it to see if there is something they can do

worn wolf
#

Wasnt even supposed to be here, but glad my plane got delayed 🀣

worn wolf
#

There rrally isnt much else to do tbh πŸ’€

#

But im aware with most major tourist scams, so all good here 😎

crimson brook
pliant tree
#

I fed Floof yogurt from a spoon this morning. He loved it!

ruby nacelle
#

They defo work

#

I can feel the affect

#

I’m making a chicken salad

radiant swan
pliant tree
dreamy ferry
ruby nacelle
#

Ya it is @pliant tree

pliant tree
pliant tree
#

Never heard of this.

dreamy ferry
#

only one of the best choice story telling games ever

pliant tree
#

Never heard of it.

ruby nacelle
#

You gotta eat on a weight loss drug

#

I’m following a plan

dreamy ferry
#

Of course. Its always important to keep eating healthily whilst losing weight

#

After all, a calorie deficit is highly important wether on a WLD or not! :p

cunning jacinth
#

a calorie deficit and a decent exercise program does wonders

#

find your BMR, eat less than that, boom deficit

crimson brook
verbal gulch
tender egret
#

I know it's off topic chat and this belongs in pets channel, just wanted to show off my cat lady

pliant tree
#

Ugh... now what??
Hate these rural routes!

pliant tree
dreamy ferry
#

ive played before the storm, lis 1, tried the demo for lis 2 briefly.

#

i watched double exposure though, im still iffy about it

pliant tree
#

I had not even heard of this game untill today. After I reach my destination I will have to take a look at it.

verbal gulch
ruby nacelle
#

hey @crimson brook

crimson brook
ruby nacelle
rotund gorge
#

My new furniture

verbal gulch
rotund gorge
ruby nacelle
#

people really slapping their pc hardware for bad performance

verbal gulch
scarlet hearth
#

-# lol I remember that from life time ago, but bc of it won't turn on

rotund gorge
#

Final form but i must tommorow decorated this and my cozy setup

scarlet hearth
#

πŸ’€ Brad was right about the lamp before you even put it on

rotund gorge
#

Ceeling lamp ?

rotund gorge
verbal gulch
#

mine do that too ... sometimes πŸ‘€

rotund gorge
#

Yes

scarlet hearth
#

The cable thing on the side is nice, my cable management is quite off atm Psycat_3

rotund gorge
#

This is my old one

rotund gorge
scarlet hearth
#

πŸ˜‚ The telephone cord, tidy though

ruby nacelle
#

cazy day

gusty mountain
#

Saw this dog at the park today also it even let me pet it and it doesn’t know me at all that’s so cutee

median vigil
#

@reef vine did you get the special invite to the special chat room πŸ˜„ for wwm

reef vine
#

?

#

apparently not?

median vigil
#

i honestly dont know why they opened up another wwm general chat and stuff πŸ˜„

median vigil
reef vine
#

ohh

#

nope

median vigil
#

its a secret discord server oOoOo

reef vine
#

dont need another 'scord lol

median vigil
#

where winds meet NGP

median vigil
#

its kinda funny

#

i got to thinking why though and i think the main reason is overcrowding conversations in chatπŸ€”

#

too many speaking all at once

#

so they opened another discord πŸ˜„

median vigil
reef vine
#

lol

median vigil
#

got me by false pretenses πŸ˜„

#

i think im doing well in the game though

gusty mountain
#

hi

median vigil
#

ive a full set of legendary

gusty mountain
#

did yall see the dam dog

median vigil
#

only joking

median vigil
#

yeh that nice pic you tookPsycat_ThumbsUp

reef vine
#

@ruby heart look it's Rupert as Abel (cute cartoon fellow) 🀣

reef vine
#

noo check the gif

#

🀣

#

its literally the actor who i use for rupert

#

but blonde πŸ˜‚

#

here

#

@ruby heart πŸ˜‚

#

I did make an Abel zoi too XD

ruby heart
#

Omg too cute

reef vine
#

XD

ruby heart
#

Looks like a snack!!

reef vine
#

HE IS ONE

#

and he likes snacks xD

ruby heart
#

lol don’t they all

reef vine
#

d'aww xD

#

yes, because i like to treat them πŸ˜‚

#

i cant help it, they have such treat-able faces XD

willow urchin
#

Heloo

crimson brook
willow urchin
#

How are you?

crimson brook
#

I'm good what about you

willow urchin
#

fine a what's your name?

crimson brook
#

What's yours

willow urchin
#

Kristina

crimson brook
#

That's a nice name

willow urchin
#

Thank you and where are you from?

crimson brook
#

USA what about you?

willow urchin
#

Slovakia

crimson brook
#

I don't think I ever met anyone from there

ruby nacelle
#

Hello everyone

#

I can feel the effect from the patches

#

I’m making an English breakfast

pliant tree
#

Whats an english breakfast.. eggs and toast?

scarlet hearth
#

πŸ˜‚ There's one in-game

ruby nacelle
smoky rune
#

Hi all I’m from the USA

pliant tree
#

Me too

steep heart
#

Me three

scarlet hearth
ruby nacelle
#

its black pudding

leaden plume
#

looks like a burnt kraby patty lmao

pliant tree
#

Enjoying my new big Peterbuilt!

#

Its kinda of a pita to get around in small towns though. Big turn radius and thats without a trailer.

pliant tree
#

Heh lets hope not... thought its like I tried.

scarlet hearth
#

-# I'm thinking about getting ATS from those GIF... and the scenery

pliant tree
#

Still got a ways to go on this trip.

cunning jacinth
#

atp just fly lol

#

moar cargo planes

pliant tree
#

I fly msfs thanks.. though havent t flown in like too long.

#

Even flew for a virtual airline.

pliant tree
#

Best is when you go through Colorado and new mexico.

#

Just boring grasslands for now...

ruby heart
#

Looks relaxing

pliant tree
#

they release states over time. Someday they will cover all of north america.

#

the darker states have not been developed yet.
The

#

The grey ones with no roads are DLC available now. Ima gonna grab Lousiana soon.

#

Woops not lousiana.. sheese.

#

Yea thats Arkansas.

scarlet hearth
#

It's on sale now... and there's demo

crimson brook
#

Me four

pliant tree
#

think so. If you need any help lemme know Ive got like hundreds of hours in it.

ruby heart
ruby heart
pliant tree
#

Yea thats how they make their money through the DLC'

#

Which get relased every few months up to 6 months or so apart.

#

But the base game has a lot of map on it. Plenty to get you started!

#

If your from the Eu you may prefer the Eu truck simulator..

#

Maybe more familiar ground 🀷

pliant tree
#

Im here but Im not all there!

pliant tree
#

Bought a new Kenworth..

verbal gulch
pliant tree
verbal gulch
pliant tree
#

Uhhh okay odd detail to pick up on πŸ™‚

pliant tree
#

Welcome to Joplin!

#

Stoplights and 20mph speed llimits... PITA

verbal gulch
wheat merlin
#

Ahh yes i remember i flew with FS2004 I flew many times from YSSY to RPLL. Thanks to MS tookover TS2. πŸ˜…

scarlet hearth
#

-# πŸš›

pliant tree
open frost
#

Saw the new Avatar movie today, really enjoyed it again. These movies are so beautifully made visually it's always a treat to see them in the cinema

pliant tree
#

Thats the old avatar!

verbal gulch
pliant tree
#

Oh sorry dont follow it. Looks fun though.

#

15 minutes late... F off already!

ruby nacelle
#

the effect is slowly wearing off

#

from ozempic

#

headache is mostly gone but i still get the odd body temo change

pliant tree
#

Hows the mood swings?

ruby nacelle
#

mood swings are fine

broken quiver
ruby nacelle
#

Mods

#

compromised acount

#

@slate karma

reef vine
#

only Mods can help us now

drifting geyser
#

hi guys

#

does anyone have 3 dollars to spare

ruby nacelle
#

no begging here

reef vine
#

asking that ain't allowed u.u

ruby nacelle
drifting geyser
#

im trying to buy inzoi

ruby nacelle
#

oh

#

and ur 3$ short

#

?

drifting geyser
#

yes

#

sadly

ruby nacelle
#

if i had spare i would of donated but i just paid all my bills

drifting geyser
#

i was dumb founded and my mom said shes not sending me no more money till next month

#

:\

ruby nacelle
#

how much is it on the store

drifting geyser
#

it litteraly said 39.99

#

so im think like atleast 40.70

#

NO

#

43.53

ruby nacelle
#

show me a screenshot

#

of price

drifting geyser
#

ofc

ruby nacelle
drifting geyser
#

im sorry i tried using cash app but can i show u the ss of me trying to pay and it saying 43.54

ruby nacelle
#

cash app isnt available here

drifting geyser
#

oh

ruby nacelle
#

it was closed down in 2024

drifting geyser
#

what is avablie here'

ruby nacelle
#

only paypal Laugh2

drifting geyser
#

omg

#

okeh

fiery zenith
#

πŸ‘‹

hybrid crag
#

πŸ‘‹

errant wedge
#

πŸ‘‹

verbal gulch
#

πŸ‘‹

wheat merlin
#

πŸ™Œ

verbal gulch
#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

warm frigate
versed olive
#

πŸ‘‹

warm dew
#

Folks, please stop with the emote spam one after another.

wooden coral
reef vine
#

o_o
what is going on

#

today was weird, both irl and online
i'm gonna just try to chill and play wwm

ruby heart
#

It’s cold!

warped hound
#

(not spamming, no ban please)

warped hound
cosmic compass
#

So many ideas, so little I can do

#

How to become a game director and have my own project in this economy

cunning jacinth
#

it is currently 10F and feels like -2F, and I REALLY want this kinda of weather in the stateside cities. maybe a midwest or northeast city would be like the American Dowon with snow

cosmic compass
#

Mine is 29C/84F....

cunning jacinth
#

Central America or some desert xD

scarlet hearth
#

You're out of Egypt?

worn wolf
#

Yup 🀣

#

Egypt was a layover

cunning jacinth
#

I walked around in my -2F a few times today for the fresh air

#

also whatever game, I'm making money

worn wolf
#

I walked like 3km in this cold πŸ’€

#

And btw, if anybody wants to travel to Egypt, I wouldnt advice going for longer than a day or two cause the pyramids is the only cool thing about it πŸ˜…

#

The rest of the country looks like archeological dig sites, but with people actually living there

#

Its meh

scarlet hearth
#

-# Hows the food? it would be cool to have the place as vacation destination like in S3

worn wolf
#

The sims 3 100% glamourized it. The food is okay

#

But the country itself is quite dangerous

#

I saw somebody waving the al quada flag

#

Even the entrance to our hotel had sniffer dogs and xray scanners for the bags

worn wolf
#

And we were in the capital btw, not northwest bumblef***

#

They even took away all drinks at the airport

#

Even drinks bought inside the airport

#

They werent allowed on the plane

#

They also checked each luggage one by one before being allowed to board the plane

#

And pet everyone down

hazy sinew
#

hello

ruby nacelle
worn wolf
#

I also got new mittens πŸ‘€

ruby nacelle
#

How cold are your hands

#

Hey @scarlet hearth

pliant tree
#

Yall see tne new lara Croft ? Sophie Turner? she looks pretty good!

worn wolf
#

But the gloves were sold by a super friendly grandma πŸ‘Œ

pliant tree
#

I used to wear these when doing amateur astronomy in sub freezing weather

cunning jacinth
#

holy link batman

scarlet hearth
#

-# It might work removing anything from /ref=

pliant tree
pliant tree
#

Ugh I could not take it anymore!

ruby nacelle
#

Pc with no thermal paste

pliant tree
#

I think I see some thermal chalk in there!

scarlet hearth
#

You're okay UM?

pliant tree
#

Nah tried to dm you bu tyou got it turned off.

#

Its okay not important

scarlet hearth
#

-# I didn't though

pliant tree
#

Well then we dont have a mutal server I guess

#

Lemme try again

#

Oh.. I see... your only accepting from 'friends' guess Im not a friend... sniff....

scarlet hearth
#

πŸ˜… Your setting possibly...

pliant tree
#

The gateway arch... seen it IRL its huge!

#

Nice view of the city...
Done.. thanks for bearing with me πŸ™‚

#

Turnabout out of there was easy btw πŸ˜‰

worn wolf
#

Pretty sure im a monster cause I accidently ate this entire plate of pickles all by myself πŸ’€

#

And then I drank like 7 cups of water

pliant tree
ruby heart
#

Meh

scarlet hearth
#

Tomato? I've never seen one pickled... (is that the right term? Doodle_Psycat_Sit)

ruby heart
#

I like new Lara Croft tho!

#

But I’ll watch what they have 😜

worn wolf
#

Suuuuper delicious

#

My fav was the cabbage though

#

Though, idk if pickled is the right term cause it uses no vinegar πŸ€”

#

Fermented maybe?

outer marten
ruby heart
#

So the nvidia driver update kind of ruined ffxii for me πŸ™

pliant tree
#

Interesting monument.

#

Has a walking trail with fake buffalo πŸ˜„

ruby nacelle
ruby heart
#

Does anyone know how to clean an old washing

#

All my clothes is coming dingy…it’s just until I can get the other washing machine

crimson brook
#

I'm finally doing with my Inzoi vid

#

😭 man making a zoi on a trackpad different πŸ˜‚

#

I think I did pretty good though 😎

scarlet hearth
#

I thought it was a dance pad like YouTuber did to defeat Elden Ring boss πŸ˜…

#

-# Speaking of which, if inZOI have interactive dance and can use dance pad to challenge ppl in MP Doodle_Cupid_Yarn1

hybrid crag
#

Hello, all πŸ––

sharp siren
light ingot
#

hey

#

i got a question, can i ask a off-topic tech support kind of question here

#

about FPS

ruby nacelle
frank cobalt
reef vine
#

Anyone play Heartopia
gonna try it out of boredom lol

#

uninstalled, has no 'register with email' 😭

scarlet hearth
#

-# That was fast

reef vine
#

yeah, having only register with facebook, google and apple is an instant no

#

huge shame because it looked cute

scarlet hearth
#

Wuthering Waves? I heard but never try...

reef vine
#

no, i want character customization

#

and i have wwm anyway which is similar

#

idk im just not feeling inzoi rn and need a second game

#

ive been struggling to be interested in anything in general lately

scarlet hearth
#

Warframe...Psycat_Holiday_Sparkle

reef vine
#

ehh

#

(its not cute enough 🀣 )

#

aka i can't be rupert πŸ˜‚

#

im just glad i have wwm

#

i can at least be rupert inspired lol

#

and its a good game in general

#

i would buy a new game but nothing is grabbing me and im feeling very flaky and noncommital

#

ive been eyeing go go town

empty ibex
#
Dashboards + AI
Anyone here building AI features for non-technical users?

reef vine
#

too cute to pass up πŸ’€

reef vine
#

oh damn this is CUTE

#

(yes that is rupert xD)

cunning jacinth
ruby nacelle
#

Day 4 of the patches and I already lost 2lbs

#

How is everyone doing

zenith dirge
#

Also Church stuff but that’s against the rules so I won’t elaborate on it

pliant tree
#

Damn it got cold here tonight (for Florida) got down to 25... no snow though.

#

Oh 25F

#

Whats that like -5 C or so?

#

These Florida homes dont have the kinda heat needed to keep up with that!

ruby heart
#

Wow that’s crazy

#

It snowed for three hours on Saturday and all day Sunday…

median vigil
#

It's 7 degrees Celsius here

scarlet hearth
#

You have a heater or warm house?

median vigil
#

And with my 4090 I sweat my tits off but

#

It's better to be warm then cold

median vigil
#

I more then make up for that now

scarlet hearth
#

-# Kinda similar here but with the AC

median vigil
ruby heart
median vigil
#

We have until February for the snow to fall if it doesn't snow again by then it won't this yesr

ruby heart
#

Ah no snow on Christmas for me I think? πŸ€” but it snowed way too many times now I’m done lol

pliant tree
ruby heart
#

For me it has snowed in April

pliant tree
#

We got snow here last year. Almost an inch

median vigil
#

Haven't seen heavy snow since I was a kid

ruby heart
#

Thats not good because your town probably isn’t prepared right?

#

I remember when it snowed in Georgia it was not good

pliant tree
ruby heart
#

That’s frightening

median vigil
pliant tree
#

Floridains were clueless and were wrecking into already wrecked cars.

ruby heart
#

I guess all of America should just prepare for all weather regardless

median vigil
median vigil
median vigil
scarlet hearth
pliant tree
#

The oven thing is just a temporary measure to warm things up a bit in the morning.

#

Its an electric ove btw

median vigil
scarlet hearth
#

No gas?

#

Ah you answered before I send hahaDoodle_Psycat_Stretch

pliant tree
#

No and oly reverse cycle heat pump.

median vigil
#

My boiler uses gas and electric

#

It's old but I'm running it into the ground before I get a new one

pliant tree
#

We had an old oil fired furnace when we bought the house but the heat exchanger cracked and it was venting Co2 and had to be abandoned.

median vigil
#

It's 22 years old but it's had all the parts replaced in it so it's new really πŸ˜‚

#

The shell is old 😁

#

Like an old car with an upgraded engine

median vigil
#

It happened when I was growing up all houses turned to blocking climneys

#

New build houses with no climney no basement

#

Poor insulated walls

#

Old houses like mine are terrible but better then new buuld

#

And when all them fall down mine will be still standing 😁

#

Like the ruin I saw in Greece one time πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜­

#

Just a shell on the mountain top

pliant tree
#

Wow

median vigil
#

I have a picture of it somewhere πŸ˜πŸ˜‚

ruby heart
pliant tree
#

Always a good idea. Nothing like filling the house with smoke cause the damper was closed or owls built a nest.

scarlet hearth
#

I wonder what basement looks like irl... Doodle_Psycat_Sit

median vigil
#

I thought my walls where like paper....

#

But her house you could fart and everyone could hear from miles away πŸ˜‚

#

And I thought I struggled with keeping my house warm but hers was like a barn πŸ˜”

ruby heart
ruby heart
median vigil
median vigil
ruby heart
median vigil
#

Never again lol

ruby heart
#

Surprisingly not

#

I’m not afraid of the boogeyman but zombies

#

I know cant happen but…

median vigil
ruby heart
#

All I think about when I go down there is zombies breaking in with grimey bloody mouths

median vigil
#

Stone cellar

#

Stone floor stone walls basement

ruby heart
#

lol I’d be scared

median vigil
#

Old door

#

Growing up I use to race up the stone stairs out of there lol

pliant tree
#

Oh I see that Boiler in the back!

ruby heart
#

Yeah!

#

It’s nice πŸ‘

median vigil
#

I wish I'd taken a picture of my old cellar now

ruby heart
#

I can’t wait till we unpack everything

median vigil
#

It was all stone everything 😭

ruby heart
#

I’m hoping to live here until the end

median vigil
#

It use to have a stone slab table down there lmao

ruby heart
median vigil
#

It was a butcher paradise πŸ˜‚

ruby heart
#

The floor is hard wood so imma do a chole ting workout once mum leaves

#

Well I mean workout in my room

median vigil
ruby heart
#

I’m trying to see if some weight loss will help with self esteem and of course my feet

ruby heart
#

I can breathe

#

Sort of

#

Unless someone sprays perfume or I go outside then I have an asthma attack

median vigil
#

It use to be a den down there for me when I was young but at night I could never be down there

ruby heart
#

It got worse recently πŸ™

#

I don’t mind it because I’m an adult but as a child woo chile I’d be scared

median vigil
#

My allergies where worse growing up I seemed to be allergic more to dogs then cats

#

Growing up I had three dogs

#

All different breeds

ruby heart
#

I’m deathly allergic to cats πŸ™

#

But they’re so cute!!

#

I’ll gag for hours

pliant tree
ruby heart
#

There I go gagging again

#

But it’s so cute!!!

#

I swear thats gonna be my demise

#

Death by allergic reaction to petting cute cats!

median vigil
median vigil
#

I enjoy not having my allergies as bad now

#

A blessing and a curse

ruby heart
#

My doggie died before COVID got really bad

median vigil
#

The kitten was crazy

#

And my old cat was so chilled out

median vigil
ruby heart
median vigil
#

Reminds me of my old dog growing up looking tired πŸ˜‚

#

My old dog always looked done with life

ruby heart
#

lol he always took naps

median vigil
#

If she hadn't stopped eating I would never have known

#

It's like that with humans though they can look healthy then drop dead next day

#

Or be ill with cancer and you wouldn't know it

scarlet hearth
median vigil
ruby nacelle
#

Hello all

median vigil
#

Are you skinny yet

ruby nacelle
#

Lost 3lbs over 4 days

median vigil
ruby nacelle
#

I’m on a hike rn

#

Walked 4 miles in 45 minutes

median vigil
ruby nacelle
ruby nacelle
#

I did home made wedges with steak

median vigil
ruby nacelle
#

You see my cooking most of the time

median vigil
#

The last time I ate out I got one piece of bacon on the plate πŸ˜”

median vigil
ruby nacelle
#

My signal is about to go because of a black spot area I’ll be back soon

median vigil
#

It must be nice to not have to do things like that πŸ€”

median vigil
#

Being out late is not something I like to do

#

Unless I've got transport to bring me home

cunning jacinth
#

yeah, I don't plan my outings, and it's a shame you have to

median vigil
worn wolf
#

You know, smells like heaping pile of πŸ‚πŸ’©

pliant tree
#

Gosh Polka I dont know how to tell you this but very few here even care about the sims any more. Its like an afterthought now.

frank cobalt
pliant tree
#

Im just pointing it out is all.

cunning jacinth
pliant tree
#

Driving through the little towns is a pain.

errant wedge
#

πŸ‘‹

ruby nacelle
#

i finsiehd my 10 mile hike in 1h 45m

pliant tree
#

Nice good job keep it up!

#

Heard you lost a bit?

ruby heart
pliant tree
#

I need to gain some but it all goes to my gut πŸ™

#

After my hospitilization a few weeks ago they have me stuffing my face with calories.

fathom prairie
#

Hi

ruby heart
median vigil
#

You'll end up with pains in places you didn't know would exist πŸ˜”

scarlet hearth
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PsyCat_Lay More so in cold weather...

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-# Also morning, I fell asleep Psycat_Blush

ruby nacelle
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cazy

median vigil
ruby nacelle
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its only temp @median vigil

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got 6 months before surgery

median vigil
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Tipped the couch over at 8 years old broken arm

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Sometimes wounds heal but not fully

ruby nacelle
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cazy the back scratcher

median vigil
ruby nacelle
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got board

median vigil
ruby nacelle
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ill manage somehow πŸ’€

median vigil
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Id be on deaths door you'd never see me again if I had a hernia

ruby nacelle
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i just push throgh it

median vigil
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Definition

reef vine
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Random but I highly recommend the Heartopia game it's so cute and a LOT like an online Animal Crossing!

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I was annoyed by the initial login but honestly it's like logging into an app lol

scarlet hearth
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Open world? Psycat_3

reef vine
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yup!!

scarlet hearth
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Reminds me a bit of My Time At... (waiting for Evershine)

reef vine
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oooh

ruby nacelle
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nyami sauce

reef vine
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same, i want evershine lol

ruby nacelle
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cazy pudding

median vigil
reef vine
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😭 lol

ruby nacelle
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flamed chicken

median vigil
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Soy sauce

scarlet hearth
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That sounds somewhat delicious...

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-# πŸ«— on the chicken and light it up

median vigil
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As long as he doesn't light himself up 😭

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He's always injured πŸ˜–

scarlet hearth
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-# Ryzen salad... sounds like a PC diagnose

ruby nacelle
median vigil
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Chicken fried ryzen

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And burnt intel

ruby nacelle
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burnt out flame

median vigil
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Yeh I'm for sure burnt out Indeed πŸ˜­πŸ˜‚

median vigil
ruby heart
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I took your advice suppor agent

pliant tree
ruby heart
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LMAO!!!

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Well I worked out

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Will post my before and after image

scarlet hearth
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-# I like the feeling during workout Psycat_3 but not so much the day after...

median vigil
median vigil
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There's no cure for dementia

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And other age related diseases

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And nothing to cure you of your brain fog

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But yeh it is nice to work out while your young 🀣

scarlet hearth
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-# Not that far from you actually PsyCat_Lay

median vigil
median vigil
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And then now I see it

median vigil
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You realize that as you got older the people you thought had a clue don't have a clue at all 😭

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All the people you worshipped and looked up too where just learning through life too 😭

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I'm still learning life and you do right up until you lose your memory

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And you die with so many unanswered questions

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πŸ€”

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Scientists die without answers to all their questions

scarlet hearth
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-# If you're content with life then... Doodle_Psycat_Sit

median vigil
median vigil
scarlet hearth
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Probably not going to think that til I'm reaching...

median vigil
median vigil
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And I wonder if that is true for others πŸ€”

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Other old people I mean πŸ€”

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If it comes to the forefront of the mind more I expect it does πŸ€”

median vigil
frank cobalt
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Or at least that's what they tell me 😭

scarlet hearth
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But then it's better to be prepared and think ahead a bit Psycat_3

median vigil
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However it could just be getting old

frank cobalt
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Got diagnosed with hashimotos n I am still in my 20s

median vigil
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Death comes to the forefront because I lost people young alot of family

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Died at 50 60

frank cobalt
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Autoimmune = lots of brainfog

median vigil
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I think about death alot actually

frank cobalt
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Ppl not understanding y u look healthy but rnt

median vigil
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Because I can't remember if I've done it once

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But then I can remember the past like it was yesterday

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πŸ€”

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Sometimes I put clothes in the washer turn it on but can't remember

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Turning the washer on

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The first time so I go back to check πŸ˜­πŸ˜‚

frank cobalt
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When I was working I had to count things a million times over n still wonder if my brain skipped something πŸ™ƒ

median vigil
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Awhile ago I was finding spoons knife and forks in the bin because id thrown them away...

median vigil
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My mind is going abit oh well

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I suppose it is what it is