off-topic-chat

[little light]

This game makes me want to take a nap

[fossil meadow]

You HAVE to speed it up to converse

[narrow rock]

I know, they sleep at the office :/, but no inzoi update today so he should be sleeping XD

[west lily]

You don't do anything? You start, move forward, and done, boom, new friend?

[narrow rock]

btw hi, long time no see

[placid sail]

But it’s not 4 AM now, game designers are often night owls 😂

[stiff hill]

the people just walking thru the kid

[scarlet hearth]

Oh they do have collision... of some kind*, on the player*

[fossil meadow]

Yeah I think the paras are still on scripted paths

[high cobalt]

@fossil meadow I noticed that too

[narrow rock]

that fixed now? I guess they rushed it in 3 weeks

[fossil meadow]

We've seen Marvin a lot already

doing the same path pretty much (Different to the patreon)

[stiff hill]

interesting way to load in a place

[median vigil]

what more could i ask for better pathing 😄

[verbal gulch]

fell through the floor lmao

[edgy oracle]

ive been playing alot megabonk lately its fun

[narrow rock]

npc collision then, but how about objects/world?

[stiff hill]

wtf paras walkin thru the floor

[verbal gulch]

POOF! Work...

[narrow rock]

ah nvm they don't then XD

[stiff hill]

ah those are wants i see

[narrow rock]

damn, another game on my list then 🤔

[scarlet hearth]

In Youtube now you can speed around the stream👌

[placid sail]

well, adjustable windows and pathfinding fixes were shown right after the closed Paralives stream 😏

[pliant tree]

Is it just me or does everything seem small scale / cramped?

[fossil meadow]

I DO still think there's good ideas but Like I said I always though Paralives unique selling point was depth
It's what everyone seemed to think would make it different to sims and Inzoi
But I don't really see much depth at all

[stiff hill]

nope me too, seems a bit cramped

[fossil meadow]

I expected less content

[median vigil]

i hope canvastowns dont end up this cramped

[fossil meadow]

This game strikes me more as a narrative game with life sim features due to work and conversation chance cards

[narrow rock]

oh that's right, they recently added that twitch like feature 🤔

[verbal gulch]

I still can't get over the wooden movement, it's really throwing me off

[fossil meadow]

Like you're not simulating life
You're writing one
WHICH DON'T GET ME WRONG
LOVE THAT STYLE OF GAMES
Just expect a bit different in life sims

[scarlet hearth]

-# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XxMchRd6c here...

[fossil meadow]

since they're simulations

[broken quiver]

Hahaha. I was there to get leisure points. 🙂

[placid sail]

tbh, that toxic backlash on Reddit and X was hugely exaggerated)) I watched that closed gameplay and read some of the posts, and it felt like we were watching different things 😌

[median vigil]

no room for cars on the road in that town thats for sure

[fossil meadow]

Yeah paras don't react to negative or positive chats either

It's always same animation

[edgy oracle]

hello procrastinator

[narrow rock]

I might watch the full thing in the morning(even though it's almost 3am lol), or wait for a recap from a nice youtuber 🤔

[stiff hill]

theyre standing a lill too close there

[narrow rock]

https://tenor.com/view/grace-karen-alittleclose-gif-5046331

[verbal gulch]

"And they where roommates..."

[median vigil]

close enough to sniff your hair 💀

[stiff hill]

like theyre walking so close together and standing too close, gives me claustrophobia

[fossil meadow]

paras are just so robotic and I thought Zois were too robotic at times

[placid sail]

much like with inZOI, many people went along with the general toxic buzz in the first weeks, without actually playing the game

[median vigil]

everything about it is claustrophobia to me but its whatever 😄 my own town is bigger then this and i consider it small 😄

[west lily]

The more I see, the more I don't think, the Early Access will really happen mid next year

[fossil meadow]

Yeah delay makes sense

[scarlet hearth]

-# Green screen 🙌 perfect for photoshooting cc

[stiff hill]

guitar teleports into hand

[broken quiver]

Lol. I think I'm going to wait and read reviews. My expectations for the game may be lower than some people. I'm not looking for a Sims replacement (I'd just go play Sims if I was in the mood). I can't get bothered by buggy games

[fossil meadow]

I think people would have geniunely gotten whiplash if this game came out in a few days
Even for an early access
Just because live mode just was never actually showcased

[verbal gulch]

yeah 6 months to fix all the robotic movements and jank is not enough time lol

[median vigil]

i want magic tricks like that 😛

[ruby nacelle]

Crusty laptop

[scarlet hearth]

I wanna see that zipline thing from other trailer

[verbal gulch]

This is what they're running the Para livestream on

[narrow rock]

jesus those dried thermal pastes 😅

[high cobalt]

The card system reminds me of stardew valley.Certain skills give you a path to take

[ruby nacelle]

[placid sail]

in the closed showcase, paras teleported into the shower))

[pliant tree]

She sure is fond of time accelleration. Guess she is trying to fit things in.

[broken quiver]

When inzoi had those influencers showcasing the game unscripted I was like they had the confidence to do that

[stiff hill]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-illusionist-magician-jochem-nooyen-gone-gif-17492543

[median vigil]

at this point they might as well teleport everywhere in that small town

[pliant tree]

Shit is so close together why teleport??

[edgy oracle]

lol probably poofed into that hat

[pliant tree]

and is there more to this down?

er this town

[median vigil]

its so close and they showed transport in the past videos no room for that here

[ruby nacelle]

hey hurri

[fossil meadow]

She is definitely more zoomed in this time

[median vigil]

i think its done on purpose

[high cobalt]

@median vigil It probably is

[ruby nacelle]

this laptop has 4 layers of crust

[verbal gulch]

It's crazy I was so excited for this from announcement up to a couple of years ago... maybe if Inzoi didn't come out left field and spoil me I'd be all in on this? 😅

[fossil meadow]

Yeah same It's because the NPC paras were the most consistently bugged

[ruby nacelle]

[scarlet hearth]

I actually like to see details so that's nice...

[little light]

Inzoi is gonna have to do more advertising and trailers to drown out the haters

[stiff hill]

runs then decides to go back and stand

[verbal gulch]

When she opens buildings, they stay open, wouldn't that cause lag after awhile if she opens them all?

[stiff hill]

[median vigil]

i sure wish the weather was like that every day here in the uk perfect weather

[stiff hill]

i think it depends on the amount of paras in the shop

[placid sail]

also, when para(folk) had low needs and was angry, one of their skills didn’t progress, the game blocked it and explained the reason)

[verbal gulch]

in this case, none because they're all walking up and down the same road 💀

[stiff hill]

did that bed say "rest in peace"

[high cobalt]

The walks are more uncanny here than in four I will admit

[stiff hill]

well paras disappearing should get fixed

[fossil meadow]

the poof to go to work will never not be jarring

They don't even walk to edge of lot or doors

[verbal gulch]

Anyone else feel like they're cheating on Inzoi? I feel dirty 😭

[little light]

No Inzoi would feel sorry for them

[broken quiver]

Imo I don't think there's going to be much competition on a modern take on a life sim. They got this. 💪 .

[west lily]

We need the competion. So that Inzoi will make it better 😉

[median vigil]

ive not see no loving touching moments yet

[verbal gulch]

by the lookds of it, it's already better lol

[fossil meadow]

yep NPC paras are def scripted

no autonomy AI

[placid sail]

people will complain it’s AI, so with AI‑gen inserts like Krafton put into the Island Getaway trailer, better not)) there were some cool promos before, but it’s unclear who made them

[west lily]

I don't want to say it like this at the moment. Waiting for the game first. I was there, the base release of Sims 4... that was worse.

[verbal gulch]

I'm assuming that that's the only house you can have at the moment, since she's not leaving that square

[scarlet hearth]

Wanna see more of the map

[fossil meadow]

Which like
It's a bit depressing that your para is the ONLY para living life
and I assume the rest of the household
But we've never been shown more than one para in a household so far

[verbal gulch]

That was a hate crime on the sims series lol

[high cobalt]

I was hoping instead one person.They would made a family

[little light]

It brought a bunch of people back for Cahaya, but they are gonna have to advertise a lot more..it works

[west lily]

It was, and we already had Sims, Sims 2 and 3 for a competion xD

[high cobalt]

But why are they on the same street

?

[median vigil]

this game is depressing me abit i have a more active life 😄

[high cobalt]

Why not explore the world?

[fossil meadow]

I'm a family player too so I need to see family play for games but part of family play is I like being able to leave members to do their own thing and make relationships
Sims 4 I had to get work place and school mods that do that for me
Inzoi and Sims 3 are the only games I've ever been able to do that

[verbal gulch]

the live stream chat is very "I LOVE THIS" or "...what?" lol

[little light]

Sims 4’s release to date is the worst early access game not in early access

[broken quiver]

Honestly I hope paralives succeeds cuz I want to play a life sims more lightweight on my steam deck.

[high cobalt]

@verbal gulch I mean its cozy and I like it.But nothing amazing

[fossil meadow]

chance cards feel super limiting
Do I have to play every para in every conversation to make decisions for them?

Like if they're talking to people outside of the household or having conversations at the same time

[west lily]

Yess! You are right. We didn't even know then, what Early Access meant xD

[fossil meadow]

Can the parents and kids have seperate conversations and I leave them be for a bit to focus on one or do I have to play all of them to progress relationships

[little light]

I want someone to make a video on that and @ the biggest haters and watch them go silent

[verbal gulch]

Does para have a canvas / gallery in their game ?

[little light]

Show footage of how lacking it was

[fossil meadow]

I think they use QR codes instead

[verbal gulch]

... weird way to do it but ok lol

[high cobalt]

@fossil meadow I am a family players and fantasy one.So yay family play is a must

[median vigil]

that change card reminds me of turn base gaming

[stiff hill]

interesting way to flirt

[west lily]

I think I saw something like this on Youtube somewhere. Would be great to find it again. Every hate comment? Answer with the vid about Sims 4 Base game.

[fossil meadow]

The paras always reacting exactly the same every time makes me question that one preview they showed

[little light]

Exactly lol

[fossil meadow]

was this also scripted? https://youtu.be/UBfTLcFC1No?si=4qM4Bx5xnA1VyArA

[median vigil]

yeh i think so....100 percent sure

[fossil meadow]

because they don't seem in game at all

[verbal gulch]

Didn't even think of that 😮

[fossil meadow]

All the emotion showcases as well don't seem to be in game

[little light]

Time does fly when you fall asleep during a livestream

[fossil meadow]

Paras seem to be the same regardless of emotion

[stiff hill]

a 45 min live?!

[verbal gulch]

Where's the kid comforting her mum? I think they only have "Stand and talk" animations 👀

[median vigil]

tbh it doesnt feel like weve had 45 minutes 😄

nothing happened

[placid sail]

ofc but I still hope they’ll produce fewer things, with more manual and artistic work, esp when it comes to finding new pc gamers to sell to, since many who wanted has already purchased, and now they need those who didn’t)

[verbal gulch]

Um, he slept, went to work, talked abit, loads happened 😮

[stiff hill]

ok that was 100% recorded cause no live does a fade out

[fossil meadow]

People are trying to say it wasn't scripted but I can't see how with the current live mode systems and how animations work that it would actually be in game

[fossil meadow]

She actually faded out IRL

[verbal gulch]

And no livestream chats mentioned

[fossil meadow]

the darkness got her

It's winter after all it gets dark here at 3-4 pm

[verbal gulch]

She was only a temp, to feed the darkness

[high cobalt]

Well that was bit underwhelmong

[fossil meadow]

Yeah I do think
A. they zoomed in and was even more controlled in what they showed compared to last livestream
B. I'm still not sold

[little light]

Legos has a big following

[fossil meadow]

I can't see a fun gameplay loop
except maybe I play it once and have fun for a few hours

I feel I can only play one para

[frank cobalt]

think they need to improve the ui for paralives a bit 😅
seems charming but some elements feels tight

[fossil meadow]

Not just because both times that's all they showed is one para and no multi household
But chance cards feel so micro managing that too many paras in a household won't be fun

also I'm a 1x player
20 in game minutes every conversation to make a decision
Doesn't sound fun

[placid sail]

not much was shown compared to the previous one, missed a lot of cool mechanics (or I missed?), like the fortune wheel during risky conversation, career perks, level up bonuses, or skill freeze

[stiff hill]

and taking up too much screen

[fossil meadow]

We saw the wheel

But it comes with no reaction animation which is one of the things they've been showcasing for a while now was how reactive paras well

Which like
I don't think it IS a scam game but I can understand why a lot of people did feel scammed emotionally
Because that's some of the only live mode stuff we had and it's not actually in live mode it seems

Every conversation, no matter if flirty, recived well or negative is always the same animation

Which is
There is no animation

It's just the standard chatting animation

[frank cobalt]

just wait til they start comparing their small indie team with InZoi's 100+ employees n somehow think they should be comparable 💀

[little light]

https://tenor.com/view/my-lord-gif-10109530379829104506

The people in chat acting like it was the best thing ever

[fossil meadow]

Like my question will always be
Where was this https://youtu.be/UBfTLcFC1No?si=veDhvUtW50oLFGT-

[dry crescent]

I gave up on paralives 2 years ago when I noticed no gameplay showcase

[fossil meadow]

They have the animations for it
why don't they play in live mode

[high cobalt]

@fossil meadow Not implanted yet I guess

[fossil meadow]

But why not is my real question

[west lily]

Okay. I thought a bit. All paras feel the same, vibe overjoyed? Didn't see what this will make of a change in the play. We saw the Social Perk and how fast the Para was to make new friends. No changes in the Mind, creativity, charisma... all walk the same, talk the same, think the same? There is no depth to the Paras, that I could see right now. Yeah, glitching, okay, can be fixed, animation loops, can be fixed. But the soul?

[fossil meadow]

Why do all that animation work and not put it in game

You do get redunant animations that don't work out but that many?

[little light]

I didn’t see one thing in that livestream that I haven’t already

[fossil meadow]

I do think Paralives is very
robotic

overall

The no autonomy AI for an open world really plays into that
Why is it an open world if there's no autonomy AI?
Even if they plan to add it later????
Why put it off for 7 years

[placid sail]

seems like the first step in the roadmap

[little light]

I’m thinking they were going to show them having a party or something, or anything better than that

[fossil meadow]

Yeah they added it after the patreon livestream
I check their Notion weekly

They added it after the patreon livestream and playtest feedback and the delay announcement

[high cobalt]

@little light They dont have social events yet

They said at the early acess video

[fossil meadow]

I do still have some
BIG questions

My biggest one
And I think the one concerns me most
Why did the gameplay trailer showcase NPCs paras having autonomy AI
Were these legitmately posed?

Which like
If is the case
VERY misleading

[dry crescent]

I thought the animation was going to look a lot worse but it was zoomed out

[fossil meadow]

Like this is the gameplay trailer
It should be representative of the gameplay

[dry crescent]

I wonder if players can zoom in to see their characters

[fossil meadow]

The only thing we saw in the stream was paras walking exact paths and sometimes eating something stood up

[desert valve]

Lmfaooo that paralives was a mess .. they would’ve got dragged on launch day worst than Inzoi🤣🤣😭

[dry crescent]

Maybe we can see more when influencers play it

[hidden hill]

While watching Paralives, it gave me a strange feeling ...like I was watching a group of people trapped inside a box. The world didn’t feel real; even The Sims 4 felt more alive. Maybe it’s just me, but that’s how it felt.

[desert valve]

Paralives remind of that Kim Kardashian game ..like a big cartoon drawing 🤣😭

[stiff hill]

i just think they need to take time to fix certain things some parts of it seemed cool

[dry crescent]

I also wanted to see if it was really open world or just a small open area

[stiff hill]

i liked the news paper part, especially if it changes daily.

very funny

[desert valve]

I’m would’ve been cussing steam out for a refund 🤣😩🤣

[verbal gulch]

I think that's the only part I liked 💀

[narrow rock]

my mistake to last check reddit before bed....just saw someone saying it looks like the pre-alpha inzoi gameplay(the one from 2023), SMH, they don't look that similar at all lol.

[desert valve]

The para folks does not match the background..! It’s weird to me .

@verbal gulch @little light it’s time for us to be messy and check the para Reddit forums 🤣

[verbal gulch]

I rarely go on the forums... but is one of the times I will 😅

[narrow rock]

don't bother for now, there's no real unbiases found there atm

[west lily]

I'm happy that there IS something and it's not a scam. And if I have to wait a few years, can live with this. My biggest concern was, if the game is even "there".

[stiff hill]

I can agree with this

[narrow rock]

yep, gotta wait like 3 years

[ruby nacelle]

Fixing another system

[wheat merlin]

Ice cold baby colour theme..

[dry crescent]

I heard the sims franchise is no longer being developed

[scarlet hearth]

-# Antoine looks nice though...

[desert valve]

I see so much drama with the sims community everyday lol

[wheat merlin]

They paused on making EPs but they still buggered up saved files..

[stiff hill]

Minus a few pathing issues and collision I think it’s a good start for paralives

[west lily]

I want concurence to happen. Not for hate, every one has his own love. But I want the race of Windows versus Linux, Android versus iPhone to happen. Because the biggest fact at the end? All of them cherry pick what they need, to get the best Product in the end.

[high cobalt]

@dry crescent It still is

[dry crescent]

Ok

[west lily]

There is a rumor about this, yes. But it was a X comment only, from one of the devs (I think)

[stiff hill]

-# I will still call it Twitter

[high cobalt]

@west lily I think yoy mean sims 4

[west lily]

I had to rewrite my part, wrote Twitter at first, too xD

[fossil meadow]

I do worry about the no autonomy AI though A LOT
Because it comes back to the question of
Why have an open world life simulation?
If you're the only person who'll live life

They don't even have story progression either

[west lily]

I did, sorry! I assumed Sims 4 was meant

[narrow rock]

nah not a dev, was a leaker/modder

[dry crescent]

Yeah I didn't see family gameplay

[fossil meadow]

They do apparently for the main para but not for anyone else in the town

[dry crescent]

So it's like the sims 2

[fossil meadow]

It was to come out during early access

[desert valve]

Same lmfaoo

[fossil meadow]

But the NPCs paras having no autonomy and not interacting with the world is
A BIG undertaking
And they don't seem to have started it

[placid sail]

didn’t they send/shift the whole Sims team, except for bug fixing, to Project X?

[desert valve]

I only like the houses ,clothes and hairstyles

[pliant tree]

How are we supposed to know such things?

[west lily]

There is so much happening with the Sim franchise at the moment, I'm lost xD

[desert valve]

Everyday it’s a new scandal lmaooo

[pliant tree]

Folks do like their drama

[narrow rock]

hmm probably another twitter rumour, haven't seen more about it yet 🤔

[placid sail]

I thought the monarchy expansion was based on old African style drafts that Maxis had been trying to sell to EA for two years. But what came of it is still unclear

[pliant tree]

Anyhow on a whole I was throurghly un impressed tbh

[west lily]

Inzoi is the only game right now, that has such a great information flow.

[narrow rock]

ok ugh, sunlight about to come out....time to sleep @_@

[desert valve]

I notice a lot of the sims players is buying Inzoi after last week drama ..good news for us .

[narrow rock]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-dead-cat-depressed-cat-laying-gif-11402833644907079653

[subtle shard]

my guess is there is no gameplay and honestly im over it because ive been waiting for 10 years for this game and now they are delaying for another 6 months v.v

[west lily]

The "In game" of steam is getting higher every day at the moment for inzoi, says the steam information 😉

[placid sail]

Lyndsay Pearson is busy 24/7, and…

[west lily]

Last month, only 900 people in a weekday, now almost 1400

[little light]

It peaks anywhere from 2100-2300 weekly

That was with no promotions of the October update

[placid sail]

I’d be more moderate, before the EP it was 1.38M, after 1.5-1.51M, and now 1.52M, so about 10–20k copies sold in 2 months

I don’t think Kjun announced the multiplayer randomly

[desert valve]

Me neither ..Kjun is very smart

[west lily]

Uh, nice, sounds better than the numbers I see on steam on a "at the moment" basis. Was scared about the low number there.

[little light]

Yea the numbers peak on weekends

[open frost]

Just saw the Paralives video, here's my little review that I also shared on reddit:

There's some small things I really like, like the goals which give you little quests to get you started, and the fact that you can choose your own work hours and days to a certain degree.

I don't like the positioning of the UI elements at the moment, feels unnatural that it's just floating on the screen on the left.

I don't like how the currency is just dollars either. I wish they would create a currency for the game, but that's just a small world building oversight.

I like that you can 'evolve' your personality picks like the talent, though I did feel like there's only a few levels and the player managed to level up quite fast. I hope they make leveling up those things more challenging/rewarding.

The needs seem very basic as well, with only 4 of them to take care of. I hope they add more like a social or fun meter.

Not sure how I feel about the together cards and together bar yet. I couldn't really grasp it in the video and would have to experience it myself to see if it feels natural while playing. It seems fairly limiting though in the kind of conversation you can have.

Him just disappearing when he went to work was a bit silly too. The upgrade system for the jobs is cool though! I like that you have multiple options instead of just leveling up the career in a monotone way.

I don't really like the way the player handled the game BTW, she sped up a lot of the gameplay and was zoomed out a lot so it was hard to see any of the animations. She mostly seemed focused on the text-based gameplay and not much on what was happening to the para on screen.

The animations I did see felt very clunky and half-done, like putting a plate in the dishwasher or getting out of the shower, lots of teleporting going on.

Npc's do nothing but walk around atm. I think fixing npc behavior so that they actually feel alive will be a challenge to get done before launch in May.

[pliant tree]

Woot a double spaced wall of text.. tldr

[placid sail]

tbh the numbers are almost catastrophic, they need 300–500 people and to force the dev quickly, while among other simulators there’s chaos and cringe

[dry crescent]

I think 6 months is a realistic time for them to fix the gameplay portion

[pliant tree]

Well they have only been working on it for what 6 years?

[fossil meadow]

It's nearing 7

They started
January 2019

[little light]

Yikes

[open frost]

I'll not hold my breath, it's a small team and I feel like they have a long way to go before this game will truly feel like it's alive. I noticed all my positive takes are on some of the text-based systems. But that's also because of how the community manager played the game lol

[dry crescent]

I was on their discord years ago and all most players were asking for was caz

[open frost]

Super zoomed out like let me see those para faces up close ffs

[fossil meadow]

My biggest concern is still by far the no autonomy AI for NPCs

That's not
easy

[open frost]

Yeah npc's are just shells that only come to life when you speak to them atm lol

[dry crescent]

Exactly that's what I wanted

[open frost]

I think that'll be their main challenge

All other stuff is easily fixed.

Their main issue might not be making the NPCs behave autonomously, it'll be to keep the game running smoothly while they do. Thats where Sims 3 has most of its issues as well. Npc's messing up shit is the main cause for Sims 3's horrible performance lol

[tough jolt]

Paralives looked very boring. I was interested in it, not anymore.

[scarlet hearth]

-# Left radios and TVs on, routing issues etc.?

[open frost]

Yeah getting themselves stuck in all sorts of ways, lagging out the game

[tough jolt]

Reminds me of a visual novel game in a weird way

[open frost]

It reminded me a bit of Coral Island lol

[fossil meadow]

Sims 2 too You have to get mods to nerf certain townie behaviour if you're on a low end PC or older mac

Sims 2 def wasn't on the scale of Sims 3 though in terms of issues

[open frost]

Yeah after this not-live-stream I am not convinced yet that they truly are ready for a may launch. How can they manage something the entirety of Maxis never even managed to do in just 6 months with 12 people? They have nothing yet in this department.

[tough jolt]

I am very open minded and patient when it comes to games and I adore cozy games but Paralives looks even more boring than Sims 4. It's pretty but that live stream didn't leave me with any sense of excitement or anticipation, but I hope everyone who is looking forward to it gets a great game in the end. Just not what I'm looking for in a life Sim and it doesn't have any of the elements I look for in other cozy games.

[fossil meadow]

Also I wrote another essay on reddit (currently seems to be my hobby at the moment) and I got reminded of Lakeburg Legacies
Which is a village management game where
You manage the village mostly by hooking up the townies and they have random chance relationship drama, out of marriage kids, etc
It was a SUPER promising game but it seems the developers dropped it after it came out and it's never really had an update

[tough jolt]

LBY was more promising even though it wasn't very visually appealing, I was sad when it was cancelled because I think it had potential.

[fossil meadow]

https://youtu.be/jLGTIt1uGBg?si=E_xHSXWXGOL1b7m8
I enjoyed this game so much

[tough jolt]

There is a game called Lake that I really enjoy and I think Paralives should maybe study it a bit because it gave me Lake vibes- except Lake had a defined story and no sandbox. But I think Paralives could benefit from maybe studying elements of Lake and merging into a life simulation.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118240/Lake/

Steam

Lake

It's September 1, 1986. You take on the role of forty-something Meredith Weiss, who returns from the big city to her quiet hometown. She exchanges her busy career at a software company to fill in for her dad, the local mail carrier.

During her two-week stay in beautiful Providence Oaks, Oregon, she runs into a few familiar faces as well as pl…

Price

$19.99

Recommendations

3853

Metacritic

70

▶ Play video

[fossil meadow]

I do think Paralives would make a really good management narrative style game I just don't know if, as it currently is, I can put it in the same genre as Sims and Inzoi at all

Not just because small team and it having a smaller scope
But it's approach is so managed and the no autonomy AI is like
I think it makes it anew genre

Or more in line with games like Lakeburg Legacies just in a 3D setting

[high cobalt]

@fossil meadow Is the game on Steam?

[open frost]

I just hope they leave the easy stuff for later like adding more job levels or furniture or even animations. Use those six month to work on the main systems.

[subtle shard]

wow im watching it and the town looks very small

[fossil meadow]

Lakeburg Legacies?
YEAH
I do recommend it
I really had a good time with it and it's really fun for a sitting
It just seems to be an abandoned project
It had it's 1.0 release and a 1.1
But they've not updated it since

There was a lot of potential to keep updating it but it seems to have fallen under the radar

[subtle shard]

but the game is so charming and the animations are good so far

why didnt she show the whole town Dx

oh yeah good point

[high cobalt]

The stream seems fine.Some bugs seem aleast fix.I see this as a smally cozy life sim.I do think the npc need to be m I re lively

[open frost]

Someone on reddit noted they were probably pre-programmed to walk a certain path because real autonomy either doesn't exist yet or just makes them go haywire

It is also suspicious the player was limited to just that small town square

She didn't do any of those 'goals' that required her to leave the town square like collecting stuff or donating to the museum

[fossil meadow]

I didn't twig the spawn points

Paras seem to have set spawn points to start their path

Which like
BIG THING THAT HAPPENS
Most open worlds have it and even Inzoi and Sims do
But it's the fact that they spawn in then walk the same path every time

Which is a big thing in games like GTA and Cyberpunk
All their NPCs are usually on scripted paths with just a bit of randomisation
But it's the lack of autonomy AI they have to truly make decisions for themselves
No one in GTA or Cyberpunk is actually living a life
It's all been set for them

Life sims are a bit different
Especially open world

We kind of expect that they're "alive" when on screen

[high cobalt]

@fossil meadow Hmm I think might buy it

[fossil meadow]

Yeah it was a very controlled version of the patreon which

But why couldn't they release the patreon version? If it follows the same thing and showcases the same things

It just makes Patreon payers look like they lied about the other livestream

Because that Patreon livestream was worse in terms of bugs and issues

[open frost]

Yeah I saw that on Reddit too, kind of like they made sure the stuff shown in the patreon live stream was 'fixed' so they could give off the impression that they were making progress or something.

But I really wanted to see some family gameplay, or some other parts of town that we haven't seen yet...

[fossil meadow]

I will say, even if I ignore the AI system
I don't think Paralives has sold this game for me
And I love slower paced life sims
I play Sims 4 modded to be 72 minutes, long lifespans, 9 day pregnancies, 40-ish day calander etc
And for Inzoi I currently play on the 96 minutes and I'm DESEPERATE for the option to make seasons and lifespans longer

But the chance cards just
They just put me off

and I like chance cards in other games
I just am not sold on it being in life sim where I like to let the characters converse alone for a while and dictate their own stories

That's WHY I play games like this slow

20 in game minutes to then micromanage a popup for a conversation feels both too slow and too reliant for me

Sometimes I just want family members to go off and do something else for a bit

[open frost]

Some of the features are really nice but tbh all it did was inspire me to give Kjun some more feedback on how to do careers and creating more directional gameplay through questing.

I rather see those small things in Inzoi than play Paralives for them

(like more ways to progress your career besides a promotion, and having daily goals to pursue with your Zoi based on their personalities)

Urges don't truly feel like goals atm (or yet)

[fossil meadow]

I'd love personality based career popups
Like a Zoi that's more chill/lazy (I can't remember the exact name) being more wanting to sit in the bathroom on their phone (Which should be an interaction )
and malicious zois wanting to argue with coworkers

[open frost]

Yeah and some more consequences for your choices. Right now I don't think there's much consequence to the choice you pick even if the outcome is bad? At least not noticeable

Careers are one of the main things that truly need more depth in Inzoi, alongside the skilling

Atm you can't even see all your skills just the four most recent ones

[scarlet hearth]

-# The UI looks kinda large there...

[open frost]

It's like this

I have the personality card open

[fossil meadow]

I do think, at the end of the day, active careers do often fill a niche I LOVE Inzoi's current system but it's because I think most jobs are boring and day to day the same
I think Kpop Star and Firefighter especially need a lot of improvement but for like
Office workers and fairground operator is fine because they kind of are boring and day to day the same jobs
What they do need to do is kind of what you suggested and just tailor zois reason for working and what they personally want to do at a job
And that dictating their actions for the day

[open frost]

One thing I also really liked about Paralives is that you can pick your work hours and schedule from a few options. It's those small things that I can enjoy.

[fossil meadow]

Like I think zois who are more criminally aligned maybe even stealing from the workplace and wanting to do bare minimum to save face

[open frost]

I think more could be done to make career progress more engaging though. Like I didn't even notice my Zoi had been promoted to editor in her rabbithole career lol. Like, it'd be nice if you'd have to perform certain tasks at home or befriend certain zois to earn your promotion or raise.

Mean Zois could also be prompted to take out their competition for a promotion by making them mess up a task or something

Chance cards are fun but they need consequences

[worn wolf]

I heard the public paralives stream was dissapointing 🤔

[pliant tree]

Not too impressive Im afraid.

[open frost]

I think it was kind of what most people expected after the debacle from 2 weeks ago

[subtle shard]

nope.. only saw a small portion.. very controlled. it was pretty boring but the animations are nice and charming

[open frost]

It's basically still unimaginable they only realized it a few weeks ago that they needed to delay

[subtle shard]

i really think they should just release the game to get more funds in order to get a bigger team to work on the game. It has potential.

[open frost]

Many of the animations felt unfinished tbh like the showering and putting something in the dishwasher, they ended up teleporting out of the animations halfway through

[worn wolf]

Happens when youre in an eco chamber i gueas

[open frost]

But animations are an easy fix.

[subtle shard]

Some of the animations were awkward and unfinished I agree, however, I see the potential.

[open frost]

The thing they will most definitely struggle with is make the npc's feel alive and autonomous

(And to still keep the game running properly when they do)

[pliant tree]

Lots fo clipping

lots of clipping too

[subtle shard]

something just tells me this entire time they were just trying to perfect the aesthetic of the game and is nowhere near having any content in the game.

because all they would ever post were animation clips and bugs of what i saw

[open frost]

Yeah exactly, live mode was neglected. They wasted too much time on their 'identity' and forgot they actually still need to program the basics no matter how cutesy and unique their game looks

It's like they work backwards.

[subtle shard]

and cozy is really a falling trend now but i hope for the best lol

[worn wolf]

Yeah, the focused those 7 years on a height slider and traits and curved walls, but not on live mode. Maybe only within the last year or so. Every single sims game (aside from sims 4 i guess) focused on gameplay first before all the extra costumization

They focused on the stageability instead of the core gameplay

[subtle shard]

Yeah, they changed up the look of paralives and im sure that took sometime. I think they only have the basics down so far and no actual gameplay

[worn wolf]

They actually didnt. The earlier videos were concepts, not actual gameplay

So Sebastian's summer and the whole build mode video with the lighting people loved? Concepts

[open frost]

Sims 4 also came from a team with over a decade of experience with the other sims games. (It still sucks, even then lol) and hundreds of employees.

Looking at Sims 3 and Sims 2, NPC autonomous behavior is the number one reason for lag, glitching and crashing. The video from today showed they have done nothing on that part yet. If they pull off a semi-smooth performance including proper (perceived) NPC autonomy before EA launch in 6 months with 12 people I'll eat all my words.

[subtle shard]

oooh okay. I did like the concept look though

[worn wolf]

Yeah, its much easier to throw together a concept than it is to make a game 🤷🏼‍♀️

[frank cobalt]

really wished sims 4 was less broken 💀

[subtle shard]

no i get it. it is

they shouldve did what maxis did with sims 3 and do the prototype first

[worn wolf]

Yup, exactly

But theyre a group of inexperienced people

And didnt do their due research

[subtle shard]

yeah they shouldve just did a kickstart

instead of a patreon

that way they wouldve raised enough money to hire the right people they needed all at once >.<

[worn wolf]

Honestly though, it wasnt even the quantity, but the quality

Like, it's appearamt that most of their team are art team with probbaly 1 or 2 coders, when there should be more

I dont know their excat numbers, but judging from what i see, this is what it looks like

[subtle shard]

you're right i believe alex took out a loan to build the game so he just probably went about it the wrong way due to inexperience

[open frost]

They make 40 grand a month now through patreon, they have a lot of funds

More than most indie developers making their first game

[subtle shard]

yeah thats true but he was adding people to the team one by one

i remember being a patreon and alex pushing to get more patreons so they could hit their team goal

[steep heart]

as expected

it really is a glorified interactive art piece than a game

[fossil meadow]

Honestly kickstart isn't perfect but I could of seen Paralives being an upfront 1+ mil kickstart
They had the hype, even in 2019

[subtle shard]

yeah my evershine nearly raised 3m in just a few weeks

[fossil meadow]

They're a team of 15 as well which is already higher than the average indie team
(usually under 10)

[subtle shard]

paralives def wouldve raised a good amount especially in the climate life simulation was in

[fossil meadow]

There's no strict line when a studio becomes Double A but they're already nearing the Double A studio I worked for for a short while

[pliant tree]

Let me ask. How has paralilves funded themsleves so far? Thats alot of paychecks.

[fossil meadow]

They're still hiring too last person to join was October

[pliant tree]

Doesent answer my question 🙂

[fossil meadow]

They say they're patreon funded mostly but
I ASSUME they're getting grants

You can get grants for projects and studios from either governments or non-profits

[pliant tree]

Man I can imagine if you invested as a patron some six years aog. Your probably pretty much given up by now.

[fossil meadow]

I know a bit of this because I've seen grants
I can't share too much but there was a certain big known thumbs up icon funder where I worked and the grant was
Reasonably big
But not enough to pull out of debts

[subtle shard]

i heard mase took out a loan to fund the game also

[open frost]

Theyre basically the same size Hello Games was a the start of No Man's Sky (though they had more funding from Sony)

Speaking of tragic launch stories lol

[fossil meadow]

Also I remember there being an interview FOR EVER AGO I need to go find where Alex was really inspired to do patreon because of Ooblets and their market first approach
But I think he started Patreon before Ooblets had even made it to early access themselves
And Ooblets was made by two people for it's entire development if I remember correctly
And they STILL had to take an exclusive deal with Epic

Which I'll never be upset with any indie for doing I don't know exact numbers for Ooblets nor any game
But I've been told Epic's exclusive deal is like
"You can only make profit" level of good

Like they'll cover a lot of development costs if you publish on their store
THAT IS THIRD PERSON INFORMATION THOUGH

I don't know how accurate and it can change project to project

Epic overall just takes a much smaller cut
It used to be just 12% cut
But now it's 0% cut for the first $1 million in sales and then becomes 12% after you hit a million
Steam is a whopping 30% cut
which when most indies are working on small budgets but often only break even or just enough to keep going
Which one would you take

[broken quiver]

I don't think this paralives is scam but I am not a patron. I barely even buy Early Access games cuz I'm skeptical. Lol

[broken quiver]

Is there motivation to release the game

[open frost]

I mean release will make them millions most probably

[broken quiver]

Anyways these days, I'm just busy playing F2P games. 😹

[open frost]

If paralives is gonna hit even half the sales numbers inzoi hit theyll make like 20 million

[worn wolf]

People defending paralives like "yeah, but i think it's good for a game in pre alpha" 💀💀💀

[open frost]

They dont really know what parts of games are difficult to make it reckon

[fossil meadow]

I'm looking up Sims 2 CC and I legit thought the girl on the left was a Para for a split second

[worn wolf]

Yeah, in their minds the core gameplay is a walk in the park, even thiugh thats where most fail 💀

[open frost]

😂

They think 'geez npc behavior is only like one small part of the entire game surely theyll fix that in a jiffy'

[fossil meadow]

People have already forgotten this game was supposed to come out in 13 days in alpha/early access

[open frost]

Meanwhile they yell at sims 3 for spamming them with error 12s not knowing why their game is so laggy and unplayable

[worn wolf]

Right? 😭

[worn wolf]

"But EA is a big greedy corporation! Surely paralives devs know what theyre doing since it's their first time ever making a game, so their knowledge should be fresh!"

[open frost]

They also released the system requirements and the game already needs a minimum of 16gb of RAM in its current state? Or did they actually anticipate an increase in RAM usage later in development... not sure if I trust them with that lol

How can you know system requirements if the main resource eater in your game isnt developed yet

[worn wolf]

Now theyre dead set on the fact that "so what if paralives is pre alpha? Thats what early access is!!!" And im like ....early access is beta though? 🤨

[scarlet hearth]

-# The eyes in Sims 2 is very cartoony, there's default replacements

[open frost]

Early access is alpha not beta

[worn wolf]

I thought is was beta 🤔

Aka all the core mechanics are there, just not fleshed out

[open frost]

Beta is a complete game that just needs stress testing and bug fixing. Alpha is a stage where core gameplay still is added to the game

Like how Inzoi is still adding stuff like business management and the family tree

[fossil meadow]

Early access is alpha

[median vigil]

Funny how in this paralives all houses cramped stuck together but in other videos it was a d'etatched one separate to other houses you think that was concept 🤔🤔

[open frost]

Beta is often used by MMO's to bug and stress test their servers.

[worn wolf]

Idk, all early access games ive played, all the core was there but just lacked content

Paralives is the opposite

A lot of items and stuff, but no core

[median vigil]

Paralives has lied a lot and faked a lot to me

[fossil meadow]

"Early access, also known as alpha access, alpha founding, paid alpha, or game preview, is a funding model in the video game industry by which consumers can play a game in the various pre-release development cycles, such as pre-alpha, alpha, and/or beta, while the developer is able to use those funds to continue further development on the game"
It CAN be a beta sometimes but it's mostly always alpha

[open frost]

Content adding has blurred a little since we now have many games that continuously add content but basically a game is alpha until all content is there that should be part of the full release.

[fossil meadow]

Can sometimes be pre-alpha but it's frowned upon

because pre-alpha should really not be paid

[median vigil]

The weather that they had all working perfect in earlier videos was just a concept

Remember that!

[worn wolf]

Which is what paralives is looking to be, though 🤔

[open frost]

We'll see what they are in May, if they release then

[worn wolf]

Highly unlikely

[fossil meadow]

EA (The company) uses early access to mean advanced access where they give people the game a few weeks in advance to be showcased
Which creates confusion too

[median vigil]

I think it will get delayed again then

[open frost]

I have no faith but I'll be glad to be proven wrong.

[worn wolf]

Like, there's no way they van achieve more in 6 months than they did in 7 years

And if they release and there isn't much change, people will riot 😬

[fossil meadow]

Honestly at this point I'm on the rollarcoster I may as well keep going
I've followed quite a few turbulent game developments
(I played the Cyberpunk 2077 demo once at a convention)

[worn wolf]

Theyll get a scammer reputation, which is very hard to overturn

[open frost]

Maybe they can make a few million anyway and then hire the people they need to go on their redemption arc lol

If Paralives follows the same path as No Man's Sky we'll have one hell of a game 10 years from now 😂

[fossil meadow]

Starbound, No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk 2077

[worn wolf]

If they can make that many sales

[limber grove]

Honestly, deserved. It's kinda hard to feel sad for Paralives when their fans has been talking bad about InZOI for not having 'dept' and saying the game feels like a 'doll house simulator'

[fossil meadow]

HEY LOOK I liked No Man's Sky 2016
It just what wasn't promised
But I actually liked it

[worn wolf]

Indie games by unknown devs in early access dont sell that well

[fossil meadow]

I've been a regular day one player of NMS

[open frost]

Inzoi sold over a million copies in its first week. That's 40 million revenue. They only need like 10% of that and they can pay a bunch of devs a proper salary for years.

[fossil meadow]

I do think they've run into an issue where Paralives fans were constantly saying Paralives would have depth Sims and Inzoi lacked

[median vigil]

It's all concepts it's not how it showed it with all the weather seasons and fluid para motions

Just lies and more lies

[worn wolf]

They also had a huge marketing campaign and got everybody all over social media talking about that 🤣

[fossil meadow]

and it's like
I think depth is the one thing missing
More than the othergames

[worn wolf]

Paralives will be lucky to even sell 100k copies tbh

[open frost]

Pretty sure the entire Sims community is ready to buy paralives lol

100k is still 4 million $$$

[worn wolf]

Not after their system requirements

[median vigil]

Why did they show it with all the weather working in videos and smooth para interactions when it's nothing like 😂😂😂

[worn wolf]

Everybody stopped talking about em after that

[limber grove]

Yeah idk why they expect an early access game made by a very small team to be so much better? Paralives fans seemed very confident, talking down on InZOI and The sims, like their game is gonna be the biggest thing... well, it's all karma I guess.

[open frost]

I mean people bought Inzoi to try it on their potato laptops with integrated intel GPU's lol they will try it again with paralives lol

[worn wolf]

Life sims as a whole are a niche genre though

[median vigil]

They will

[worn wolf]

The sims 4 has so many players cause the base game is free and runs on anything

So people aren't exactly losing anything

[open frost]

It's a pretty big niche and since there's so little games, there's not a lot of competition

[worn wolf]

Inzoi sold well cause they had hyper realistic graphics akd people are waiting on GTA 6

[median vigil]

They think paralives is the game to save their old pcs

[open frost]

People are starving for new life sims, if you build something half decent theyll buy it

You only have to be better than sims 4 which isn't hard

[fossil meadow]

I do think Paralives will sell well for indie but nowhere near Inzoi numbers

Well it depends 6 months can change a lot

[open frost]

They only need a fraction to be profitable anyway

[limber grove]

It's actually very hard to be better than TS4, The game has 10 years worth of content...

[open frost]

Thats the perk of having such a small team and being patreon funded

[worn wolf]

Indie games tend to sell less than 50 copies, so it's a big variation 🤣

[ruby nacelle]

i just fixed my brothers pc after 3 hours of hell

[worn wolf]

If they do sell well, there are also gonna be a lot of refunds

[open frost]

Paralives is definitely not in the ballpark of unknown indie debuts lol

[worn wolf]

People are expecting a sims killer

Something they arent getting

[limber grove]

yeah nothing's gonna kill the sims, only the sims can kill the sims

[worn wolf]

Like, we all know how braindead the sims community can be 💀

[open frost]

The sims has already done a great job at killing itself over the past decade.

[worn wolf]

They see paralives and go like "oh, the sims but better!" But the it isng the sims and it isnt better, so they riot

[open frost]

Whatever sims 4 is now, it's a mere ghost of what the sims was

[median vigil]

Paralives won't be simple as that

[ruby nacelle]

sims did such a good job at killing itself its getting a remaster

[fossil meadow]

It's hard to call Paralives though
Inzoi had maybe 6 months of fast hype, which meant their wishlisters were more likely to buy the game as they wishlisted recently
Paralives has a SUPER slow wishlist growth and has climbed slowly over time
If they got the most of them when it first got listed which is years ago now
They may have forgotten/fallen out of hype
But they do have 8k paid members on patreon
If all of that 8k, who are already paying, pay the $40
They're looking at an easy $320,000

[worn wolf]

We are talking about the same community that put pirating info on tne official steam game review and locked them behind a paywall on patreon 😭

[open frost]

Refunds will only be a small portion most people are too lazy to refund. Any half decent finance person will have calculated these refunds in their prospects.

[median vigil]

The remaster might be enough to make people forget paralives though

[fossil meadow]

About $451,184CAD

[broken quiver]

Wait is inzoi in alpha stage? Lol I'm not a Dev

[open frost]

I read this was fake

[limber grove]

I expect a big player drop for Paralives, like InZOI experienced. But InZOI can easily gain players back if the devs keep up the big updates, while Paralives are going to take a long time to update since the team is small, so they're going to have a hard time gaining back players.

[fossil meadow]

Yeye still alpha as they're overhauling systems and adding missing features

[worn wolf]

Yeah, it's a new game, not a remaster

[broken quiver]

Wow. It's better than some released games

[median vigil]

I expect the big player drop too and back to sims 4 for them

[fossil meadow]

overhauling features that aren't fun or working as intended is a big part of alpha

by beta you're usually more certain on core systems

[open frost]

As long as major updates keep needing new saves to work Inzoi is 100% alpha stage

[median vigil]

Yep I'm still stuck on my first and only save till I make new one

[worn wolf]

Another thing that bugs me about paralives is that they only work on stuff that one of their team members is willing to work on. If nobody wants to work on something, they just arent getting added. That could lead to base game mechanics just not being added

[fossil meadow]

Inzoi plans to keep being added to after 1.0 though so
they don't need EVERY system as they won't get out of early access but they need to get the core systems and gameplay loop down

[median vigil]

I dont see inzoi out of early access for years

[ruby nacelle]

they are aiming for 2026 for 1.0

[median vigil]

Even 1.0 I think is gonna be rough

[worn wolf]

The game just needs to be enjoyable and all systems that are in game should have a meaningful gameplay loop to be 1.0

[worn wolf]

They arent

[ruby nacelle]

thats what i heard

[worn wolf]

Krafton is pushing them, but kjun said its not happening

[broken quiver]

I was expecting something really terrible from the reviews on inzoi but it's not a flaming mess. Lol

[ruby nacelle]

krafton can just pull the funding tho

[worn wolf]

Probably 2027

[ruby nacelle]

[median vigil]

Deep down people know inzoi good for what it is and has achieved so far

[open frost]

At the pace they're going i think inzoi can easily go 1.0 by the end of 2026. And then keep updating and adding content beyond 1.0 (like No Man's Sky does and Minecraft and Stardew Valley) + some DLC to keep Krafton happy

[worn wolf]

They got $40m in funding from sales. Its not like kfraton is still paying for them

[worn wolf]

True 🤷🏼‍♀️

[limber grove]

Hmm... Idk about that, InZOI's update speed is pretty fast, didn't the game started development in like, late 2022? I would say that the game will be ready for an 'official launch' in like 2 years. of course, updates will need to keep on coming.

[open frost]

Krafton is quite annoying with pushing for full release though it's how they ended up in their conflict with Subnautica as well

[worn wolf]

I know that before, kjun wanted to add pets amd functional hospitals and all active careers and maybe schools prior to 1.0 release. Can they really achieve all that in a year?

[fossil meadow]

It is wild how little traction Inzoi gets
Before EA release it was the dark horse
Nobody really followed it in a big way publicly and it got overshadowed by LBY and Paralives
I think a lot of people only got onboard after LBY died in the life sim community and then the big hype started in 2024 Gamescom
Then there was the pre and post hype release
And now nobody really engages with it again in the life sim community
Kjun's updates get very slow and small traction

[median vigil]

I don't think it will be ready then but it's good with what they have so far it will still be rough then

[open frost]

@worn wolf they're adding courts, business management, canvas town and fate engine in the span of 2,5 months. Should be possible.

[limber grove]

I see your point 👍

[fossil meadow]

But I think that's actually working for Inzoi
A. it broke out of community containment and into the mainstream which is like A BIG THING
B. People aren't trying to make it into a sims replacement

[high cobalt]

@open frost Here's the thing,Krafton wants money.Inzoi was probaly expensive to make.It make sense Krafton want full release as soon as possible

[median vigil]

It will still have bugs is what I mean ongoing ones

[worn wolf]

They could've started eork on them months ago, we just found out about them recently

[open frost]

Same counts for the features you mentiond

[scarlet hearth]

For consoles I wonder how well other simulation games sold? the release for for PS5 could make a spike in sales

[open frost]

I feel like life sim is more fitting for Switch (2) but that one is probably not strong enough for Inzoi.

[limber grove]

Unfortunately fans of a different life sim game started hating on InZOI, claiming that the other game will be better. I see this a lot with youtubers(especially notso...someone) hating on InZOI, they're always 100% positive on that other upcoming life sim 🫣 .

[open frost]

Not sure if PS5 audience is life sim audience

[median vigil]

Google said PS5 version coming out next year although who knows

[worn wolf]

Anyways, Im not too sure about a 2026 release, considering we are a momth away from that. It's been like 8 months since inzoi came out, and while progress was GREAT, it's still definitely not ready for full release

[limber grove]

Yeah, 2026 is too early

[open frost]

2026 release can also mean December 2026

[worn wolf]

Not malcolm cough

[high cobalt]

@worn wolf My thing is Krafton might just pressure them to release it.

[fossil meadow]

This is why you gotta support my girl Fantayzia
She covers Paralives too and is excited for it but her Inzoi content is equally excited and she often showcases how it is
And is one of a few content creators posting regular Inzoi news updates

[worn wolf]

Krafton has been pushing for an august release though

That's like 4 updates away

[limber grove]

OMG Yes, I love her InZOI content. She's so consistent too

[median vigil]

Too early but you never know since PS5 version is due 🤔

[high cobalt]

@worn wolf I think Krafton was just make it be for full release.Rather its ready or not

[ruby nacelle]

[worn wolf]

Yeah, and im saying inzoi isnt ready for that yet

[ruby nacelle]

we know inzoi isn't ready

[median vigil]

Who knows PS5 might come out half baked still

[ruby nacelle]

but krafton will push it anyway

[median vigil]

I thought multiplayer was dead in the water but it's ready

[worn wolf]

Hopefully kjun puts on his big face and tells them to lay off 🤷🏼‍♀️

[median vigil]

PS5 version might be ready to go too

[ruby nacelle]

their already in a lawsuit over subnatica for not paying the agreed 250m

[high cobalt]

Oh I agree its not ready.Regardesly it will be release to full release.

[subtle shard]

sorry wrong group x D

[worn wolf]

At the end of the day, krafton wants money. They need to understand that a half baked full release wont get them money 🤷🏼‍♀️

[median vigil]

Do they realize though 🤔

[ruby nacelle]

krafton is going ai and laying off people by giving them severence

[worn wolf]

Besides, even the predisent of south Korea wants them to succeed. Krafton would be stupid to do anything hasty

[worn wolf]

Theyre not

Once again with the misinformation 💀

[ruby nacelle]

its not misinfo

[worn wolf]

It is

[ruby nacelle]

prove it

[median vigil]

I heard that info too many people are saying it but I'm not sure

[ruby nacelle]

like EA also going AI for workflow

[worn wolf]

Krafton is gonna use ai for organization and theyre giving peiple severance packages if they wanna quit but aren't comfortable

Its on their official Korean press release

Not random news that are looking for clicks

[median vigil]

In the end theres gonna be one person left at krafton and it will be the ai bot 😂😂

[worn wolf]

Lemme find the original one

https://www.krafton.com/news/press/크래프톤-ai-first-기업-전환-선언-1000억-원-이상-투자/

Here

[median vigil]

They let some rreal people go for ai until one day it will be everyone for ai

That's the way companies are going

Like or not 🤔

[high cobalt]

@worn wolf I hope they will.

[worn wolf]

Instead of prompting AI and telling it to do something, the AI will be its own thing and do what it was programmed to do. Thats what agenic ai is

[median vigil]

It will indeed be it's thing until it can be the only thing

[high cobalt]

I do belive if Inzoi team can make the deadline.If they just focose on fleshing the game play they have,and announce.

[open frost]

There is honestly nothing wrong with using AI to increase efficiency in your management systems so people can focus on creative work instead. I am a content marketeer in my job and AI has helped me a ton to streamline some of the more mundane repetitive tasks so I have more time for brainstorms and concept development.

[subtle shard]

they arent firing people they are actually hiring people constantly looking for more developers to hire

[warm dew]

Krafton is focused more on using AI as a tool for organization ^

[median vigil]

For now

[warm dew]

It is what they mention in their own original press release

[median vigil]

Yeh that's the goal for now

[subtle shard]

krafton i think wants to be the first to create an ai tool for gaming studios to speed up the process of game development since i guess they are doing so well at it

[narrow rock]

Lyndsay who? 🤔

[warm dew]

As far as I understand, they arent using AI to directly develop the games but rather help with managerial organization and whatnot

Personally, I am very against AI writing anything directly

[open frost]

Ill celebrate the day we dont need middle managers anymore thanks to AI

[worn wolf]

The 🐕 responsible for the starwars pack

[open frost]

Middle management is the bane of any corporate existence lol

[worn wolf]

And theyre cutting out the middle managment middle man 🤷🏼‍♀️

[narrow rock]

Umm, isn't that pack universally hated? 🤔

[worn wolf]

Yup 🤣

[scarlet hearth]

-# It's... actually have some gameplay contents?

[fossil meadow]

I mostly avoid talking too much but 💀 I did work at a table top studio and the guy in our manager role thought nobody under the age of 50 plays tabletop games anymore

[median vigil]

All that is gonna come whether we like or not

[warm dew]

I guess I am a nobody

[subtle shard]

yeah i wasnt sure what it was but i know they plan on launching something for developers and it has to do with something with ai

[narrow rock]

Damn dude, kinda took me out with your joke so early in the morning 😂 😂
Anyway gonna get breaky

[subtle shard]

anyone play sl here? x D

[open frost]

@fossil meadow since my middle manager quit and we've got no replacement and I communicate with the director directly my job has improved tenfold both in efficiency and personal growth lol

[subtle shard]

well not play but use

[fossil meadow]

The whole team was under 50 like
"Everyone we know has played or is currently in a D&D campaign"
There was a D&D group at our workplace

[warm dew]

I am going to reserve judgement until more concrete info is released on that. There is too much left to speculate

[warm dew]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-face-sips-tea-dead-gif-24160201

[high cobalt]

@narrow rock That pack is so hated that became on sale a couple weeks latter

[narrow rock]

Yep, same with Square Enix, it has potential to speed up QA a lot, if done right 🤔

[fossil meadow]

I ABSOLUTELY love Square Enix games but Lowkey they should never be the standard
If FFXIV wasn't doing so well I think they'd honestly have gone under by now

[warm dew]

Yall know what I am looking forward to hearing more about? (completely unrelated here)

[high cobalt]

Its a sims 4 pack that I do not or ever will own

[warm dew]

I am looking forward to hearing more about Okami 2

[fossil meadow]

It feels like every year news of Square Enix being on life support comes out
And that life support is FFXIV

[warm dew]

https://tenor.com/view/ammy-okami-amaterasu-gif-12443476

[narrow rock]

This is why they pushed the emergency Ff7 button 😂

[scarlet hearth]

-# @narrow rock You saw the Paralives stream? it was just like... 4 hours ago when you went lol

[fossil meadow]

FFXIV almost ended them itself but now it's the thing propping them up and letting them wave their arms around to show they're alive

[warm dew]

Imma be honest, I havent been keeping up with the paralives stuff

[narrow rock]

Omg yes!!

[warm dew]

Can someone give me a tldr of like facts of the situation?

[fossil meadow]

anyway this is my game of the decade

[worn wolf]

Its got a half baked live mod with beraly any content, routing issues and no autonomy

[warm dew]

Mod?

I thought it was not out yet?

[worn wolf]

Yeah, but people were expecting way more

Its even worse than sims 4 on release

[fossil meadow]

I've spent two days modding Sims 2 just to be like
HMMM
Maybe I should go play FFXIV

[warm dew]

Oh? Oh....

[worn wolf]

Its what I gathered from the streams and from what people have been saying

[high cobalt]

@fossil meadow I need mod sims 3 the clothes,skin,and funiture needs updating

[warm dew]

I thought paralives was doing pretty good in development a couple months back

I wonder what happened

[scarlet hearth]

It was a short video just 45 mins or so on Youtube

[high cobalt]

@warm dew Its not the worst,the team is nice and working hard

[warm dew]

Well that is good to hear. Maybe it just needs to cook a little longer

[high cobalt]

Yep,just more time

[narrow rock]

Much much longer.... Like years 🤔

[worn wolf]

The delay + livestream locked behind a paywall. People took off their rose tinted glasses

[high cobalt]

I espect one more delay but I see releasing late next year

[worn wolf]

Cause the build mode and paramaker looked so finished, they expected live mode to also be in a good state. It isnt

[narrow rock]

Yeah late 2026 or early 2027 early access 🤔

[worn wolf]

The team only found out their core gameplay is 💩 a little over a week ago

Cause they finally got playtesters that weren't their friends or family

[median vigil]

I knew it was bad and didn't need patreon to see it

[worn wolf]

I have always been skeptical

Theres a reason games dont have height sliders and resiziable furniture

Its good in theory, but a TON of work in practice

[warm dew]

Well I think it is good they at least are delaying

[wheat merlin]

😭 error.. xD

[warm dew]

I think it is worth to hold out some hope as they continue to develop

I wish the best for paralives

[worn wolf]

Im honestly not holding my breath

This entire week has been filled with nothing but hate for paralives and they lost like 30k subscribers on reddit

[warm dew]

I remember people saying the same for inZOI. I am gonna hope the best for paralives like I do for inZOI

[worn wolf]

They need at least a few more years, not 6 months

[high cobalt]

I dont think they need three years

A year probably three no.

[wheat merlin]

Did they put on hold patrons subscription?

[worn wolf]

They have like 14 peiple though, with most of em being 3d modelers and artsits

[high cobalt]

@wheat merlin Nope they need patron to fund the game

[warm dew]

Paralives is indie? I feel so out of the loop of it

[worn wolf]

Yeah

[pliant tree]

They need some programmers someone who can sort the clipping and teleporting.

[wheat merlin]

It'll be disaster if Paralives cancel.. no refund.. no guarantee..

[worn wolf]

A TON of gameplay bugs

You'll get at least 1 bug every 30 seconds of gameplay

[wheat merlin]

That's not Australia. 😭

[pliant tree]

Its a shame I was all interenested in Paralives and now.. who gives an F.

[worn wolf]

Yeah, I wont be buying it unless they prove me wrong

Cause from what ive seen, it isnt worth the $40 price tag

[median vigil]

It's a let down really all of it 🤔

[worn wolf]

Especially since theyre a very small team and it'll take them almost a decade to go out of early access

I'd rather save that money for inzoi packs tbh

[narrow rock]

Right, the AI cameras should dress like a roo, waiting to kick ya

Or drop bears

[broken quiver]

At least LBY didn't take any money from people before they called quits. Paying for kickstarters/ being a patron is risky.

[scarlet hearth]

-# I can't help but thinking that if they make it out to Early Access can they recoup a bit? or the production can last longer... performance doesn't look good but still... 🥺

[placid sail]

Sims executive producer

[broken quiver]

Yeah. Honestly i liked the premises of LBY. it just looked really bad. 😅

[broken quiver]

What's that green thing. 🤣

[ruby nacelle]

its called grass

i charged my brother $30 for fixing his pc

spent 4 hours on it

[broken quiver]

Haven't touched it for a while

[ruby nacelle]

he nearly broke it

💀

[broken quiver]

That's nice of you

[ruby nacelle]

i told him dont overclock the pc because you dont know how to do it

[broken quiver]

What did he do?

[ruby nacelle]

he did it anyways and paid the price

his pc ending up having a mental breakdown

because of a corrupted bios

@broken quiver my family would be screwed without me

im the only repair technican

[broken quiver]

I don't really know much about PCs but I'm my parent's IT. 😅

[broken quiver]

I didn't even know that can get corrupted

I'd have just gotten a new computer

[ruby nacelle]

it can

if you overclock a motherboard to the point its unstable then rip

[scarlet hearth]

I used to brick one from updating through a flash drive... after that I got cold sweat from trying

[ruby nacelle]

[broken quiver]

How did you fix that? Replaced the motherboard?

[ruby nacelle]

i replaced the bios chip

copied the code from the old to new

and flashed it

[narrow rock]

damn I need to start doing that, charging family some small fees XD

always have been doing it for free, even if it takes days to fix & w/e cost to buy new parts

[ruby nacelle]

true

@narrow rock

This is his pc

[worn wolf]

Ive been giggling while making this 🤣

[ruby nacelle]

poki should be on the dev team

in the clothing section

[worn wolf]

I do got some nice normal clothes design ideas 🤣

For kids

[ruby nacelle]

[narrow rock]

ice cold baby

[ruby nacelle]

ice zoid

[narrow rock]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-outkast-gif-4685458

[ruby nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/strolling-national-geographic-photographer-captures-stunning-arctic-wildlife-walking-trekking-gif-25269499

[sick hamlet]

I feel second hand anxiety for the paralives team

I mean it all looks cute and they’re in early access but oof 😮‍💨

Hoping the best for them 🙏

[ruby nacelle]

Hello crick

[sick hamlet]

Heyy 👋👋

[ruby nacelle]

@narrow rock

This is why I avoid gigabyte

Friend sent me this

[scarlet hearth]

-# 💀That noise at the end

[ruby nacelle]

Cazy

Don’t get a gigabyte monitor

That one ending up catching on fire

[worn wolf]

You all remember that new gane by mid summer studios? 👀

Early look

[ruby nacelle]

[worn wolf]

Looks like it might be story based. Maybe something like life by you has been trying to achieve? 🤔

Unless it's description text

Cant read from here 🤣

[ruby nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

[worn wolf]

FOUND THE PRESENTATION

https://www.youtube.com/live/Io21Ww3qb4c?si=MOAMlEi83pKRccfd

[ruby nacelle]

Will It flop

[worn wolf]

Well, it sounds promising. And it's made by some big dogs

And they got a few million bucks in funding

[scarlet hearth]

Do you repair other items in the house? I accidentally yanked the chain off and almost couldn't turn this off 😅

[ruby nacelle]

Replace the chain

Goodnight all

It’s 2am for me

[scarlet hearth]

Goodnight 👋

[worn wolf]

Japanese curry

[dry crescent]

That's what I said. It looks more like sims 4 apartment dlc where you only had access to a small area without loading screens

[cunning jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[worn wolf]

Oops, extra m 🤣

[narrow rock]

MSi also kinda bad 🤔

[cunning jacinth]

I have a gigabyte motherboard and swear by it

I have this whole philosophy of “if you make a thing, make that thing well. don’t expand to more things you won’t do as well”

kleenex makes tissue. you wouldn’t catch them making notebooks. yamaha makes WAY better guitars than they do motorcycles

end old person rant xD

[narrow rock]

but for real gigabyte really can be a hit or miss sometimes XD

[worn wolf]

I just saw an ad for an anonymous dating website. So was like "who tf wants to date anonymously?!" Until I realized it's a cheating app 😑😑😑

[worn wolf]

Im dead 😭😭😭

https://youtube.com/shorts/V9EGzLJU6Hc?si=ZBPy18H_F6_Zi97l

[warped hound]

Crackermilk 😭

Love their edgy humor

[worn wolf]

The EA joke is what got me 🤣

[warped hound]

What cracks me is when Connor mentions Tamara is working at EA in the end

[warped hound]

YES LMAO

[mild idol]

hello my game updated and my mods are disabled how can i restore my mods again?

[zenith dirge]

[ruby nacelle]

Hello everyone

It’s a cazy day

[zenith dirge]

tell me about it!

There's another one of those other people again

early morning and they're already out and about scamming and stealing...

I need to look up if pepper spray is legal in Europe...

oh neat it's legal

[ruby nacelle]

[cunning jacinth]

you need to reenable them. please note the "this hotfix disables all mods" section of each hotfix

[wheat merlin]

Finished... Now material time... Uhhh...

[ruby nacelle]

The hospital pre assessment was a shitshow

I think it’s gonna get delayed because of the short notice

[worn wolf]

Nobody is ever gonna care about you more than paralives stans. Try saying something negative and they'll stalk all your comments and reply to every single one 🙏

[ruby nacelle]

[wheat merlin]

Ey there @ruby nacelle have you checked out Blender 5.0?

[ruby nacelle]

I have

[wheat merlin]

Array they finally improved it! xD

Look like TS4... absolutely.. xD

[glass lava]

screw their weird ahh art direction anyways, it's like they're trying to mix Borderlands with the thick outlines with TS's pastel styling

[worn wolf]

Personally, I dint really care about their art, though it looks kinda low poly and all their guys look like twinks 😭

[wheat merlin]

Yeah it does look beautiful... unexpected guest ruining my shot!

[glass lava]

anyways, speaking of blender stuff I'm trying to use a model to carve a zoi 🤣

[wheat merlin]

Are you using a program to adjust opacity?

[glass lava]

yeah, OnTopReplica

[worn wolf]

Eh. Sims 4 is incredibly broken, overpriced and beraly has gameplay

[wheat merlin]

Hahaha yes! xD I did that when I started playing inZOI..

[worn wolf]

I can only play it for a couple of hours every 6 months before getting bored 💀

[glass lava]

build house
make sim
exit game then return for 6 months
repeat

[worn wolf]

Yup, pretty much 💀

[wheat merlin]

True... I'm more happy with inZOI... I start to loose hope with TS4...

[worn wolf]

Im waiting on the december update so I can build up my canvas town with shops thag belong to my zoi 🤣

But im mostly waiting for functinal schools since I have a storyline I wanna play out 👀

And sims 4 highschool years is a dissapointment that will tarnish that story line

[wheat merlin]

Welp, this is TS4 but rendered with Blender 3D... Very old project..

[worn wolf]

Reminds me of the sims 3 photo booth tbh

[wheat merlin]

Yes it is.. 🙂

[wheat merlin]

I heard they'll add canteen or something? While I have school uniform added, I hope they fix change to school uniform. Only I see teens wear school uniform.

LoL why I'm chatting inZOI again in off topic... close topic... xD

[worn wolf]

I mean, it makes sense cause only high schoolers wear uniforms 🤣

Elementary schoolers dont

[wheat merlin]

American thing... hmmmm....

[worn wolf]

No, korean thing

Americans don't wear em at all

[glass lava]

All wrong, it's an Asian thing as a whole

[worn wolf]

Though, preteens should be wearing em 🤔

[worn wolf]

Not all Asians 🤣

[glass lava]

well most of the countries, yes

[wheat merlin]

Only private schools do...

Welp UK and AUS. Public and Private wear school uniform.

[worn wolf]

They wear em in China and thailand

[wheat merlin]

Philippines too...

Well...every child must wear ID at all times in school.

[worn wolf]

Not here 🤷🏼‍♀️

[wheat merlin]

Same in AUS....

[worn wolf]

Also, no hall passes. Wanna go to the bathroom, ask permission 🤣

[wheat merlin]

Does you High School have separate rest rooms for Grade levels? @worn wolf

[worn wolf]

Highschool years domt have grade levels

It's a small school with 2 classrooms where like 8 students spawn

Hence, the dissapointment 💀

[wheat merlin]

So....
Grade 7 FEMALE - MALE
Grade 8 FEMALE - MALE
Grade 9 - 10 - FEMALE - MALE
SENIOR 1 - 2 - FEMALE - MALE

I don't know why? From preventing something bad happening.. xD

[worn wolf]

Ooooh, you mean actual highschools 💀

[wheat merlin]

Yes.

[worn wolf]

No, we just got a man's and woman's and faculty

It's all in one big buikding and we go to different classrooms for every lesson

Got 4 in total

[wheat merlin]

Ahhh true... Kinda similar like in Japan.

[worn wolf]

4 per semester

[worn wolf]

Well, not exactly since we dont have a home classroom 🤣

Our homeroom teacher is whoever happens to teach 1st period

[wheat merlin]

Ahh okay...

what time your school starts and finish?

[worn wolf]

8am to 3pm

[wheat merlin]

Same

Primary school 8.30AM to 3:15PM or 3.30PM

[cunning jacinth]

after school groups have to catch the bus at 4 or 4:30

[worn wolf]

We got a cafeteria where we can buy food ajd eat at the tables, but i used to just bring food from home and sit in the hallways 🤣

We were allowed to eat anywhere except the 2nd floor, which was the allergen free floor

[worn wolf]

We only got school busses for those that lived super far

Thats why I had to walk 2km there and back daily 💀

[cunning jacinth]

oof 1.2 miles

[worn wolf]

Yup

[cunning jacinth]

I make that walk every other day now lol

[worn wolf]

Total of 4km btw

[cunning jacinth]

ohh 2km one way

nvm

[worn wolf]

Yeah

[cunning jacinth]

gonna tell your grandkids about it and embellish? xD

wait

[worn wolf]

Nuh, ill tell em about the hell slope i had to climb several times a week in elementary school 🤣

Do got strong calves as a result though

[cunning jacinth]

polkamom

[wheat merlin]

Her new nickname. xD

Poki Bites Polkamon xD

[worn wolf]

Like, that thing was 2km and so steep you couldn't see the top 😭

I can guarantee none if you wouod be able to climb it

Even i can't nowadays since im out of practice 💀

[cunning jacinth]

pretty sure I can summit something an elementary school kid could xD

[worn wolf]

I lived on top of a mountain my dude 🙏

[cunning jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-cry-crying-tears-sad-gif-6719405031599946692

I can do it

[worn wolf]

Did get a nice view of the sea though 🤣

[cunning jacinth]

ooh reminds me, I'm hoping to land a house on a lake

[wheat merlin]

I stop posting CCs in reddit because I have received so many sh*tty comments about CC. xD

[cunning jacinth]

reddit is a cesspool

[wheat merlin]

How high?

[wheat merlin]

And better than Twitter. xD

[worn wolf]

My parents got a cottage. The backyard is waterfront and has a private dock 🤣

[cunning jacinth]

be real nice to mom and dad and make sure the house is taken care and one day...

[worn wolf]

Idk, but pretty damn high. The entire town was either slopes or stairs

[cunning jacinth]

be sure to eliminate siblings vying for inheritance in CK3

[worn wolf]

Got 5 to fight off 🤣🤣

[cunning jacinth]

make alliances and then turn when timing is right ofc

go medieval

[worn wolf]

I will however get a good inheritance cause my parents have a good life insurance at least 😅

Anyways, I finally have like 6 more interactions left to draw so I can finally pitch to kjun on Friday

I do got a VERY nice assortment 👀

[ruby nacelle]

Pokiball

[worn wolf]

Yeah?

Bruh, there's a sub out there where you post memes about dreams you had. There really is a sub for everything 😭

https://www.reddit.com/r/thomastheplankengine/s/jL4wazKI4y

[high cobalt]

Tomorrow Thanksgiving for america

Me and my mom make dishes for our family

[cunning jacinth]

then false sale holiday

[glass lava]

turkey cooking day

[cunning jacinth]

mein!

[glass lava]

yus

[high cobalt]

@glass lava For once were eating a turkey

[cunning jacinth]

hullo, long time no see

[high cobalt]

@cunning jacinth Hi

[glass lava]

yes long time because I was preoccupied with work

now i got free time now

hee hee

[cunning jacinth]

[high cobalt]

Green been casorole,stuffing ,cranberry sauce is on the menu.I want try making an Alfredo pasta with cheese and shrimp

[wheat merlin]

From December 10, the social media platforms Facebook, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter/X, Kick, Twitch, Snapchat and Reddit must block people under 16 from creating or holding accounts or face penalties of up to $49.5 million. AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺

[high cobalt]

@wheat merlin I dont know how they can enforce that

[cunning jacinth]

commonwealth rules

[keen acorn]

UK already did

Gotta ID verify

[keen acorn]

It's not Commonwealth also, just Australia. But UK has a similar law

[cunning jacinth]

yeah I was insinuating British law influenced Australian, tersely and without bringing up a forbidden topic

[pliant tree]

Heh ever go to respond to a post then realize it was posted like 6 hours ago 😄

[stiff hill]

yep, i still respond anyway

unless its already answered

[placid sail]

Kjun is typing…

[stiff hill]

thats my que

[pliant tree]

Just hope they dont evolve into a mega studio like some other devs. Keep it on a personal level like it is now 😄

[stiff hill]

chat about inzoi should be in #inzoi-chat

[pliant tree]

But it does mean that Krafton is seeing a ROI which is encouraing.

Were talkin about the devs.. not the game 🙂

[stiff hill]

still considered inzoi talk lol

cause inzoi dev

[pliant tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-baby-boy-toddler-sulk-gif-20598553

[cunning jacinth]

cue: acting hint
que: Spanish "what"
queue: a line of people

I love words

esp cognates and homophones

que is neither

[stiff hill]

tbf i forget the spelling most of the time

[cunning jacinth]

-# it's 3 letters 😛

-# do you forget fox or eat

fawks

[stiff hill]

no... but brain thinks cue is que sometimes

[cunning jacinth]

happens when you learn another language, you lost a bit of the first

[pliant tree]

Next time just say thing.

But yea I did read "Thats my what", but just shrugged and moved on 😄

[placid sail]

interesting things are happening with inZOI’s ratings 🙃

Steam Awards 2025 and reviews for steam badges?)

[pliant tree]

Reviews for steam badges? What is this?

You get a 'reward' for reviewing a game?

[pliant tree]

Hrm thats a tad un ethical no?

Bah I guess you get a reward regardless if it is a positive or negative reward.

[placid sail]

I’ll try to check the rules and follow the steam voting

since that’s the case

[pliant tree]

Also see if you have to be a 'verified' owner or just any joe smoe can leave a review.

[placid sail]

I think only the owner. And at the same time, three nominations for inZOI
Game of the Year
Most Innovative Gameplay
Sit Back and Relax
UPD: 4. Outstanding Visual Style Award

I trust you’ll know what to do 🤣

https://store.steampowered.com/steamawards/nominations/2025

Tasks:

• play a game you’ve nominated
• review or update your review for a game you’ve nominated

[wheat temple]

Will my nominations not count if I don't nominate from every category?

[placid sail]

It all counts, you just don’t get the badge on your Steam page.

[wheat temple]

Ok got it! I don't care about the badge. I also nominated inzoi for outstanding visual style award

[placid sail]

I picked something random from VR 🤣 the rest I knew what to vote for, there’s about 10+ games in my library and I earned the badge))