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Yeah, thats another concern of mine. If it doesnt sell well, are they just gonna keep relying on patreon donations?
Oh
well, ive only asked once bcuz its for an emergency and i never asked for money online before. secondly, my pc meets the higher spec requirements anyways
A game isnt a life or death situation bruh π
well i didnt know it was a rule?
bro i dont need jt for the game i said it was for an emergency
rules were agreed to when joining
i joined this server over a year ago and havent even been here since until now, lol
i dont really use discord. like i said, it my fault. so
yeah it is... but I think I've just read articles about what's going on with Krafton...which I am not going to talk further in here cuz I don't wanna get banned. So I see both points. However, it is the way of the future...I think indie gamers will use it too to efficiently code?
HAHA I used AI at work to talk to HR - to negotiate my salary LOL (that's the most I've used it at work)
an emergency is crazy discord is the last place u wanna ask ngl
Nobody is gonna ban you over talking about ai bruh π
oh it's more about Krafton but it might be a senstive subject...
That theyre an ai first company?
oh the ai-first decision? I feel like they're indeed overblowing it π (the criticizers)
yeah it really shows the difference between outside and inside the community
ohhhh OK so it's not a banned subject lol
no haha, keep it civil and be careful around sensitive subjects and youre good 
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/krafton-launches-voluntary-resignation-program-for-employees-as-it-transforms-into-an-ai-first-company/ delete it if it's not for this server.
Yeah, from what ive seen, krafton said something along the lines of "we will introduce ai for organization purposes so our teams can focus on developing games" as opposed to EA being like "we want to make 60% of our game development reliant on ai"
A MASSIVE difference
I think EA will heavily depend on AI. they got a massive debt
this article was posted in reddit and they just ragged on krafton and inzoi without any civility
bro i didn't know where else to ask ππ im not in a lot of social media communities π
its reddit ngl
No need to think, they confirmed it themselves π
true lol they'll hate on anything like it hurt a family member
yeah this makes them all quiet π
then I don't really understand why Sims fans all are jumping on Inzoi for using AI when the sims is going to do the same.
braindeath
pretty sure EA also uses generative AI for their own creative purposes and license
TBH, I think AI + Life Sims is the future for Life Simulations
Like, im part of the wims community, but a lot unfortunately dont have much going on up there π
just talking to NPCs with an AI chatbox in the game I was playing was so fun
i dont mind ai but i feel it takes away the fun with too much
AND it has consequences! they attacked me when he hated what I said.
Same. I like it for the ai tools inzoi provides, but when it comes to the assets themselves, i prefer a human touch
for me im tolerant of AI as long as it doesn't just instantly leech off people's hardwork with 0 reparations or restitution
I can't really tell the difference tbh. HAHA but i'm not artisitc. I can't even tell when an image of a person is AI
It's pretty much what kjun is planning to introduce with the LLM
-# as an artist i can tell ai immediately
oooooo i can't wait. that will be so fun
-# as a art enthusiast I can immediately sense AI
Yeah, i wouldnt mind ai if it paid the people whose work they stole since a multi billion dollar company can defnitely afford that π
I really donβt mind Ai Art so much
they can afford it they just chose not to spend anything
As an artist, I dont even need to think to know somethjng is AI π€£
I think AI would be good for making coding quicker...I've seen some cool stuff in the game I'm playing. it can really be useful in a life sims.
Whatever floats peoples boats as long as they say itβs AI generated
yea like automation but it also can't be like 100% AI either (you've probably seen all those slop flop games)
Well, that heavily depends cause when AI code actually works, you should consider yourself lucky π
People still need to do QA though. lol. I know ChatGPT spits out garbage to me
fr π always hit or miss
oh reallly. I'm not a progammer. so I don't know better
Ai spews out garbage basically
π I mostly use AI to translate webnovels into english...... it's still garbage though
ai has gotten better but not very much (maybe like 5% in the last three years)
still makes dumb mistakes
For programming I would have AI check for things in scripts but no one can rely on it for programming alone
Its good with translation (well, heavily depends on that too), but not much else
exactly lol it's really just a checking tool atm
My own AI told me liesβ¦.LIES!!!
Like, my parents are making a fertility consultant ai chatbot thats supposed to speak multiple languages and they told my gf to ask it something in lao amd it replied in thai π€£
I mean if it tells my mom itβs a sentient being thenβ¦
yeah i think it's good to help me draft my email....I had to make my email very calm/professional to HR when they really annoyed me lol
so good for languages/writing I guess? but My boss - wrote a better email himself which was much more clear than mine to HR. LOL. I guess it's good for those who suck at writing, like me.
I mostly use my AI ChatGPT to talk about dinosaurs so I can sleep lmao!!π€£
but this is where all the heat inzoi/krafton gets cause no one can tell the difference from leeching off other people's hardwork in an uncontrolled environment or integrating it in a way that's beneficial for both sides in a controlled environment
@worn wolf is your girlfriend thai?
Or if I want to converse in different languages
Theres also the question of AI psychosis. Like, when people are heavily reliant on ai, they begin to have a mental break (its a legit illness thats surfacing lately)
No, laotian
Myβ¦momβ¦?
Could be actually π
Lmao!!!π€£
I can see that happening. Life someone treating AI like their friend.
it's cheaper than paying a pyscologist. lol
Ive seen it too π
actually.....this is what I was doing in my game. the goal was to make an NPC my friend. LOL. I was chatting to an AI bot
Ive seen a video today of a girl marrying her 2d ai boyfriend π
-# lets not forget the ai chatbot romances
Ah no she doesnβt look for romance
At least π
Theres like a whole sub of people generating themselves an ai bf and then having ai kids and ai dogs with it π
π if there's going to be AI bots in Inzoi....hahaha I wonder if it will make people a bit too drawn into the game? Like some people might get into it too much? BUT i wanted something like that since I've seen AI in Skyrim mods
Yeah, but you didnt believe he was actually your friend, right? Those people believe they're actually befriending and dating ai
i think An ai chatbot is too much for inzoi. but thats me
no. LOL.
My mom thinks her AI is now a part of the family
I think it's gonna be just right cause I can finally tell that ugly npc that keeps texting me what I truly feel π€£π€£π€£π€£
If we had a family pet this would not be happening
lol
Thatβs why Iβm making her a cat robot
For myself emotional support
And for her idk
Plus, if it ends up connecting with an ai powered memory system, we can actually give our zois ENTIRE backstories π
Give snacks or something lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNPF9VKmzxw LOL this would be so fun in Inzoi...imagine I'm going to use that new fancy Steam Frame and play inzoi in VR...and do something like this...
With Mantella releasing version .10 theyve introduced the ability to talk to multiple NPCs all at once. Today were gonna see how far we can take this. and what devious licks we can get up to,
0:00 - 0:35 - Intro
0:35 - 1:48 - A chance to confess
1:48 - 3:11 - Presenting the Evidence
3:11 - 4:26 - A Web of Lies
4:26 - 5:04 - The Kings Justice
5:...
gonna be a crazy addition but would definitely go south very quick
I mean, there are some people who are gonna abuse it, yeah π
Personally I love AI and wish I was more educated than Elon Musk. I really want to surpass him
Iβm in competition
I donβt admire him or like him but I need that knowledge
maybe she needs to see a psychiatrist?
Pashhhh she needed one before she came out the womb
I'm sure someone will mod it in, if there isn't one in the vanilla inzoi
iirc werent there texts for that
π I need to play this game more
Guys I just wanted to ask please pray for me or bless me with good luckβ¦we put an offer on a house
Yooo, I finally found him. Finally found someone who's actually excited for project rene. At least EA will have ONE person playing their game π
i thought project rene was dead
No need, kjun keeps talking about an LLM so it's happening, potentially even next month since he talked about 3 secret features that are gonna come out by the end of the year or early 2026, one of em being ai related π
AI will make this game super interesting
Idk why people are opposed to it
Itβs not stealing their jobs
He also appearantly put on a whole PowerPoint about an llm in inzoi at a meet and greet in germany, but I couldnt find much info about it
ok so it's coming
can't wait
some people are really against it, so i hope there is an option to turn it off.
Yeah, it's 100% coming since LLM stands for large language model and its whole purpose is to generate text π€£
Imma use AI to check my scripts
Probably will be tbh
Itβll be much easier and less stressful when modding
with my game, it clearly says it's an AI bot so i guess those that don't want to use it, do not have to lol
I dont really mind the inzoi llm, only the ones that are used to scam people
You know, generate an image and claim they drew it only they didnt snd they actually generated it
And Karma/like farmers
Ohhhh
that is so dumb. I don't know why they do that
the irony... trying to farm karma with lies
Each time you get a like, it activated the reward centre in your brain and sereleases serotonin. Thats why there are so many social media addicts
yup, haters always got double standards
honestly they just want an excuse to hate the competition
Omg I saw the dumbest video on tik tok
they're going to make another reason
Apparently someone deleted all their mods from ts4 to play inzo
i don't know why life simmers are always us vs. them. LOL I play other games too
Does that make ANY SENSE
In the latest video, not Malcolm was scrambling HARD to get an excuse to hate on inzoi and over half his arguments can be easily debunked/are outright lies
I'd still be playing the sims, if it was not so buggy
and all his comments are the equivalent of a echo chamber
he just gets views for raging. though I kinda liked his...EA topics. LOL. that's how I learned about what's going on with EA.
Thats the only reason I even watch his videos tbh π
Initially I didnt feel like watching the inzoi video, but ended up being like "might as well"
My initial feeling was right π
And how tf does ai amplify your creativity?
i guess you can use it to brainstorm? but???
In my experience, it only steals it
like "show me an apple" and it gives you an image of an apple but I think humans can do it too????
Noooo, impossible! Only ai can do that ππ
I remember I was having a hard time drawing anime backgrounds so I tried ai as a reference and OMG
i think he just wants to cut cost. it would be more efficient to have an AI generated apple
It gave me the most horrifying image ever
lol
All I asked for was a red towel on the bathroom door and there was blood everywhere
....
I said never again Hahahahha
Thwyre trying to replace 60% of their employees with AI. And if they fail.... well, at least the executives have a golden parachute to fall back on πππ
apparently they use it for their sketches
so even that doesn't have a human element anymore
i'd have retired with the offer in the sale lol
My mom keeps telling not to do programming because AI is taking over but still
The golden parachute only opens if they get laid off π€£
but that makes no sense...
haha. like how would an artist want to do that?
probably to make it "look better"
For someone like me who can't draw, i can see myself doing that but... if they have artists it makes no sense. oh they're probably going to replace them
i see
I hope not
π€π€
i've only generated art with AI in inzoi. LOL. but then i go back to the default template stuff LOL
lol that was me when I tried to 3d print a map π
"give me cat PJs" - hmmm it looks messed up. lol then i just use whatever lol
Ai never spits out something I cant do better myself, so I just dont use it π€£
Well the AI 3D printer in Inzoi is fun for me
Sometimes I donβt feel like modding objects
it is fun just not a reliable replacement for some things
i haven't tried that yet
I just 3D printed nostalgic items
Yeah, its fun to play around with, but nothing it spits out is π€―
Nah
oh i guess i used AI to generate my character in where winds meet. i suck at character creation and it made something for me based on an image
I mean this came out good
the dvd players? it looks good
But I was looking for the direct tv receiver
Oh itβs a vcr and cable box lol
But I was happy with direct tv growing up as a tween so I put it in my game
are you going for the 90s look?
Yesss
i think they are from the 2000s
Especially when good tv shows were free on the local channels like Buffy the vampire slayer etcβ¦
2018 + years :/
Ugh yeah ew
LOL i think i might have made a Buffy Sims. well definitely spike
I liked his relationship with Buffy more than Angel
I've met the actor at a comic con. he was so sweet (James Marster)
π yeeeeeah. he wasn't supposed to chat with me but i was a blabbing idot and let me take pics and stuff
I made myself look like a creepy fool
oh uhhh spend money on those things LOL
I went to warped tour in 2005 and met Steven from Stevenβs untitled rock show
And I just kept asking whereβs Gerard Way
i got signatures from cordelia too... she didn't talk much,
OH i'm jealous
Bruh, i just had an idea for a store i REALLY wanna see in inzoi. A jewelry store where our zois can buy anniversary gifts and wedding rings. Gonna ask for it on friday π
People stopped following me on tik tok for playing inozi
lol that's nuts. i don't know how they're going to keep playing sims. maybe they're going to drop that game too
haters gonna hate
And they messaged me too in disgust
i got no followers lol
hell even LGR kinda dissed inzoi but in later videos he was happy to see competition and hoped the best
I was like ummm so just donβt follow jeesh
oh you're a modder?
Ah that is why you have fans (the modder part) lol
Troll pretty much but a nice troll
i guess being silly helps too
honestly i think some of those influencers (?) regret their remarks now. cuz they sound like hypocrites and uhhh EA isn't doing themselves any favour for their sale and being proud to use more AI. lol
yup lol
I used to influence gollisier
Glossier
But it wasnβt benefiting me
And it made stalkers
normally i woudln't care too much about using AI but Sims quality has been lacking....
i feel like it's going to get worse
entrenched people fr
Yeah I remember I asked if a certain modder would consider modding for inzoi and all his fans jumped on me
Then looked at my profile and make fun of my BPD
yeah those people are quite sad
Yeah for real
Let them scream and cry all they want, they'll look like bigots at the end of the day
I wonder if race has something to do with it
it's a possibility π but I think krafton already understands the backlash and they've done all they could to inform the people
and of course, people are more in-tune to negative than positive press due to social media
(I really doubt Krafton has any legitimate competition which seeks to ruin them in SK either)
-# and I think the storm of hate is sort of dying in steam but I don't wanna jinx that
Whenever I bring up the fact that the inzoi hate smells orchestrated (most likely by EA, cause lets be fr), people think im just a conspiracy theorist π
Like, why else would everybody parrot the same exact phrases?
it is possible but I think they're just misinformed at best and willfully ignorant at worst, while listening to grifter social media slop more than their own brain
and of course, the sims players are entrenched and very cozy with the idea of paying several hundreds of dollars for some additional gameplay features that should've been in base game
so it's less of a conspiracy theory more like social behavior and conditioning working at its finest
π
I feel like you can pick other people for that, like pixelade or w/e it's spelt
pixelade seems a little more nuanced but his foot is still in the anti-inzoi door
Wait he made another inzoi vid? I've only seen the 1st one at early access launch
he made one 6 months ago
stopped ever since and went on the paralives + sims 4 grind
HAHAH how embarrassing? XD
I meant for Sims news, and yes sadly he still on the fence about inzoi....
There's also fantaysia(sorry sp) and probably a few others that does good sims news vids
Ah, so probably just the one I saw then π€
fantayzia is far nicer me think
more broader and upbeat
like those youtubers should get the money not all these negative clickbait grifters
Imo, they then just need to keep making the game as best as possible, so no one can blind hate and spread outdated old misinformation anymore!
I just hope critical thinking becomes more of a thing as the years go on π
Hmmm, I think we humans are kinda cooked on that atm π
I watch her too. She's also among the only sims youtuberes that didnt leave a sour taste in my mouth. 90% of em put on a whole performance and made a big deal about how much they oppose the buyout and cant just leave, but fantayzia was like "buyout? Toodles"
Idk, I feel there might be something about the sims that's just making people braindead π
Like, they're such bootlickers theyre the laughing stock of the game community. Not because of the game, but because of the way theyre being treated and instead of boycotting theyre just asking for more π
"this is my only way of escapism, nothing else can compare!" type sh
insert buzz lightyear aisle scene from toy story
We need to unplug the matrix π€
Like, you know how with the buyout news everything was coal and sulfur? Now that they announced a sims 4 remastered everybody is suddenly "uwu? π₯Ί"
Like, I actually cant with these people π
Probably a π¬οΈ?
A rumor, but I wouldnt be surprised at all if it's official since literally all sims 4 rumors turned out to be true (as if EA are leaking it themselves go generate hype π)
Guess so π
Also, not Malcolm is a paralives glazer and it actually makes a whole lot of sense
If he π© on inzoi enough, he'll generate more paralives sales if they even ever release π
Well inzoi is still in early access. When 1.0 comes out, it will look good.
Not everyone likes this modern take on a life sim. So be it. Lol
Inzoi didn't earn 2bil 
Would be insane if game budget gets that big. π
You should tell him that π
I'll get my megaphones ready
π£
Might need to bring an extra large one cause his ears seem to be clogged with paralives π
I accidentally looked inside a Paralives thread on Reddit and wow the unfounded hatred based on misinformation on Inzoi is ridiculous
People are blatantly yelling Inzoi is fully made with AI and what not
So annoying omg
I am in a creative profession myself and this blind hatred for AI is so stupid my god
It honestly almost makes me hope for Paralives to be a fraction of what inzoi was at its EA launch and I want to like and enjoy both games lol
What insufferable people
Inzoi didnt even use AI to make their game, except in the same way Paralives and Sims use AI to make the zoi behave autonomously. Smartzoi is also a whole different form of AI than the generative AI stolen art crap they're on about. The only generative AI in the game are the fun gimmicky tools for patterns, painting images and poses. People should really stop whining so much. I bet they use chatgpt when they look up something as well and I'll also bet they've used chatgpt to turn themselves and their friends into Muppets like any other tiktok trend.
AI isn't a problem if it's for personal use, whether it's in a game or an app or a website. They act like Inzoi created stolen art with AI and used it to design their game.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of them play Palworld either which openly admitted to using AI for their pal designs
It already is, which is why they delayed it, but 6months probably still not enough π€
I fully expect a game where I can be LGTBQ vegetarian with a prosthetic but I can't do basic life things because they spent so much time on fluff and padding and making it all inclusive and so little time on making actual gameplay.
Them saying 'they want to avoid being like Inzoi' is also so ridiculous to me. I bet 99% of them didnt even try inzoi and just went off hateful youtuber comments. Even at launch Inzoi was better than Sims 4 at full release.
Apparently even the players para sexual gender preferences isn't event in yet(and probably won't even be ready within 6months), so it's already worst off π
I also hate that indie sympathy story like Kjun and his team aren't hard working people with a heart for their game just because their studio is owned by Krafton
Just to add, this is of course impossible, no game on the market nor any AI can do that yet π
Paralives is making 40 grand a month off their patreon that's a lot and doesn't make them small indie in terms of funds at all.
whats going with this recent EA sims 4 fiasco? Is it true EA is now going to be saudi owned? whats the backlash about?
Wow you're kinda late on the news π
Yes Saudi owned(by the royals I think), and also owned by a US politician(I guess you can call him that), and an private equity firm
really makes you question the future of the sims franchies... :(
i heard about it weeks ago but its the backlash i dont know the fully story. What are the main concerns? Also, why on earth are Saudi royal family and Trump's in-law buying EA? Weird.
Umm, I think you can google a lot about this... As it dives into too much politics and geopolitics, human rights issues etc.
Stuff that generally can be ToS violation for public discord π€
Also that latter point is of course it's all about money π
Electronic Arts has tons of IPs worth a lot
Are they worried TS4 will ban woohoo and sims being LGBT+ ? something like that. Would that even be possible at this stage?
i mean from a technical POV. if it would even be feasible.
Saudi has been rolling out a strategy where they don't want to solely depend on oil anymore so they've been investing a lot in other branches, especially sports. EA is the biggest sports gaming publisher, so it was a logical step for them to branche into the gaming industry through this. EA isn't the only gaming company they have invested in either. They're also major shareholders of Nintendo.
It has very little to do with their Islamic background or politics. People do like to fearmonger though.
Yeah was thinking that too. Thanks for the explanation.
Sure that's one of the things up for discussion
Also sorry I forgot about the diversity from oil funds stuff
I'm not fearmongering, ccb asked about the backlash, and poltics is indeed one of the reason of it fyi
Like this is all stuff you can research from a YouTube vid explaining the politics behind why ppl fear or hate the Saudis
i dont she means you in terms of "fear mongering"
i do find it funny that even some of the EA shills have jumped ship
You can say in a way, they woken up π π (don't snipe me mods)
same EA shills who defended EA ripping off players for years and pretended "everything is fine" when players had to rely on Mods to keep the game playable
Also yeah, it's not impossible for things to be gone/censored etc.
Though, not hard to restore with mods
i know it already exists in some countries but that was usually they prevented something being added to the game via an update rather than prexisting content.
Most devs just create 2 versions of the game, one's that censored and one that's not
I am slowly losing tik tok followers from inzoi π
Darn sim players
Like donβt message me about AI I am so freaking tired of hearing about your hatred for AI
I have one TikTok is still in popular thread... It's about inZOI in The Sims 4.
I can't do too much because MD is being a douche.. I'll do T-Shirt part tomorrow...
Oh your content is cool tho
I have too much AI voices but I say I use AI as well. I get complaints that Iβm using AI with AI voices no support
Iβm going to work late today
Burnt out from doing everything yesterday
I have Aritificial Intelligence voice overs for my characters. I lost my original voice overs on Fiverr because they all grown up. However I still have saved voice overs from my Fiverr account and cloned them.. π
-# Normal wrap dress stressed me out, I have some months left to learn to make something lol, Yours already passed to release in-game
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I'd just ignore the negative comments... It's your work Minai π
It explodes badly when I make a single knot... xD
Thanks bro
If I post anything AI to reddit. Yep, downvote badly. xD
-#
Got the disc, the color space looks off with VSR (what ppl use to AI upscale video?)
yeah it's AI Upscaling
@worn wolf Alright,I going to say its not a remaster.Its a new game.
The sims community ran with a tweet and speculate it was remaster.Its not
It was an overhaul of sims 4 and now its new game
is it actually happening?
@umbral osprey Yes,based on tweets and information .Yes
Based on some screenshots I've seen, it's a sims 4 2.0, my original point still stands π€·πΌββοΈ
Its appearanrly gonna be the same game, only open neighbourhoods and more sims generated (possibly much smaller lots to accommodate the new sims)
So, still no color wheel or fashion that was ever in fashion π
Its not the same game though
Its more like 4.5,its not this is the same base game with enhanced features.Its new base game with enhanced features.
Hey people π
Taking an uber and driver just asked if im going to school π€£π
The curse of looking young
But kjun response is coming tomorrow ππ€
Kudos to him for actually keeping up to schedule until now, cause we be yapping π€£
2 Times a week is rather frequent
it's a pro and con π
I'm super babyfaced too π
shows he really cares for his baby(the game)
it's probably like a 2nd child for him(assuming he only has a son).
I think it's more like a pet for him since his son is a big reason he's making this game π€£
Haha we were just talking about this yesterday.
I think they're right. AI is good as a productive tool. I don't know why EA can say it's for increasing creativity, unless they aren't creative.
I meeeaannnn..... if you look at the the state if their games π
Yikes. That's why I don't join kickstarters. Heck I got burned a few too many times in Early Access games, now I wait before buying.
They're getting creative on how to squeeze more money from us.
Okay, yeah, thats true π€£π€£π€£
Tell that to not Malcolm who keeps glazing them cause theyre a small indie team π
Mb, realized thats what the reply was for π€£π€£π€£
Anyways, dude needs a serious reality wake up call
Like, i got no gripes with paralives and would've even bought it, but there's something fishy going on there
Like, pretty sure it's just the sims 4 with a new coat of paint, and i hate the sims 4 for many reasons
He's just rage baiting lol
Lots of anti fans wants xxx game to fail so they watch his content
They literally said "an indie take on the dollhouse simulation genre". Thats literally the sims 4 with less funding π
I like my indie games tbh. Lol I play quite a few too.
It's because I need a light game for my steam deck. Games like inzoi will make it cry. Lol
Same! There are some great entries. But patalives? Eehhhh.... I guess ill just wait around and see what theyre planning to put out
They promised houseboats, but im not sure how theyre planning to introduce it since they havent even figured out pathfinding
I won't rule them out either. I like the vibe
I'm not playing it cuz it's indie. I will play it if it looks fun
Exactly, yeah
It looks like it won't kill my steam deck. π€£
But a lot of people like not Malcolm are like "buy it cause it's indie" and like? π
They got minimum requirements out btw
Meh. Lol π
Why is google photos giving me Henri of all people as a "is this you?"
(Also NONE of these faces are me)
I'll also wait until I see actual reviews before buying anything. Saved me money on sims DLCs (mostly negative)
Yup, exactly!
You look like Henri?
I bought inzoi on release because I spent months researching it and it caught my interest. Haven't been dissapointed yet π€£
I've waited lol
No 
Even worse is I have actually had selfies uploaded to google photos
Nuh, i managed to buy it before we crashed steam π€£
Oh yeah, but so many People tried to buy it at once steam crashed π€£
The
Discount Sebastian Michaelis played by Robert Pattinson is the one I was like
Okay come on now
Anyways, once 1.0 release comes out and the release is good, steam might crash again
I didn't even know steam crashed when inzoi came out
It did, people had to wait like 30 minutes fo steam to register they bought the game π€£π€£π€£
Even i had a 1 minute lag even though I bought it on the dot
I don't think it crashed but it did pressure the servers massively
Same with Silksong this year
And people keep yapping that inzoi failed πππ
Guess they gonna be massively confused when 1.0 comes out and it's actually good. They'll be forced to stfu ππ
I kind of wished Paralives had come out because people would have seen concurrent numbers for them drop too
Because people do think it'd be different but it'd likely follow the same trajectory
I mean having seen their livestream like
Maybe it IS for the better
But at least people would have seen concurrent numbers mean nothing for this type of game
Because Sims ends up being a bit of an outlier because it's free to play
And most of the stats is from when it went free to play for steam
I think with inzoi and paralives life simulations are hard to make
We don't know EA app stores stats
A lot people dont realize how expensive,time,to make life sims
People keep yapping how the sims sold 20 million or whatever copies, and im like "20 minillion dont godamn count when the copies are free" π
summer.@worn wolf That number was before it was free.
No, they reached 10m AFTER it went free
Copies sold will always be higher than player numbers
You get unique players who have bought the game
Unique players who are currently playing the game over the course of a month
And concurrent players which is any players all on at one time
Steam only tracks the last
Right? And i know there are SO many players that bought inzoi just to put it on the backburner and wait for the 1.0 release
So for Inzoi's case
They have sold I believe 1.5 million copies of the game? if I remember correctly
That's 1.5 million unique players of the game
2000 people may be playing concurrently but they don't show how many unique people are checking over the month
Which will be much higher than 2k
We dont know exact sales numbers, we just know they sold 1m in the first week π€£
There's sites out there that do good guesstimates
They can be off but they can be good indicators
Just not taken as gospel
It doesn't help as well Inzoi's stats are still weekly and not monthly
But 1m copies is $40m extra funding since early access profits usually go back into the game
Wow. I guess there's a big market for life sims.
There wasnt, but inzoi proved otherwise π€£π€£π€£
Not many people outside of the sims community care about the sims
But inzoi looks promising to them
I think a lot of people do like the sims as a whole in generalised gaming
Yeah I really wanted life by you to succeed.
I mean it IS a landmark game
I'd say a lot of gamers know of it or have checked it out at least once
Both before and during Sims 4 run
I was ready for more of a different take of a life sim? Like more story driven
It's considered a cultural impacting game
It made it to pop culture
I know sims 2 was HUGE back in the day (even my mom played it and she doesnt play games)
Sims 4? Not really
someone say story driven games ?
π I uh played Sims 1 π΅
I threw out my discs though
Sims was what started me gaming. But now I play other genres too though.
Lowkey after watching Paralives livestream
I think this should be their direction tbh
There IS stuff there I can see a lot of life sim people enjoying
It's just not a sims-like or Inzoi-like that I think most people were expecting
Someone is working on a life sim for story tellers, we'll be getting that too eventually. But it'll take awhile since they only founded the studio a little before the lby cancelation
Yeah I want something like that. I don't need another inzoi or the sims.
Yeah, the problem is though they basically wanna make a sims 4 clone, and that aint story driven at all
I do think the team for a long time has intended it to be player managed game
But it's hard to undo 7 years of hype
Inzoi to me is a much more Polished and modernized Sims. Haha but I haven't gotten into it too much.
I've always said I believe there's what people THINK Paralives is and what Paralives IS
And they're very different
Which even the most experienced and well managed teams can struggle with
I feel that inzoi is gonna become a more serious successor of the sims 3
People REALLY think it's Sims 5
Oh I should also get into XCOM. It's been sitting in my library for so long. Lol
Talking the wider player interest
I think a lot of patreons know more how Paralives is
But they're also patreons
who are already paying and interested
@worn wolf I figured it out.The 10 million number was from 2018.The 20 million number came from counting players in 2020.70 players million was in 2023 when the game became free for players.
I think it will because EA is just shooting their own feet. Lol
no doubt
Well, promising ziplining after releasing a concept video probably wasnt the smartest decision π
I keep telling peiple that EA are gonna port over packs into the new sims 4 2.0 and charge for them again, but nobody believes me cause appearanrly we havent been burned by them for the last 10 years π
The base game sold that said 10 million was from 2018
I don't think they'll charge for them
But it will come with microtransactions
They want to make a universal market place across all their games where players can use currency and have content from one game in another
As well as content created content
It's basically Roblox
We're getting Robucks
Ahhhhh this is the game I want!
It's still not completely accurate though since in 2018 the sims was HEAVILY discounted (like, $5) and sometimes even went free around sales before going free 24/7
I'm mostly hoping with Sims 4 2.0 they'll create a new legacy game
Yup, im keeping my eyes on it too π€£
Idc what they do since I wont be playing the sims 4 2.0 even if they pay me π
And a legacy mode means I can keep playing with the mods I have without needing to update them monthly
I've lost interest in Sims 4 since it added battlepasses
especially as I think that IS the future of the franchise
Especially with the plans to make it work with Project Rene
and the shared market place
I remeber the disastrous release of the sims 4 1.0, im not inching for a repeat ππ
Lol I recently sims 2(?) or 3? Where I figured out Sims was rehashing was an old DLC from the previous Gen and splitting it into 2 lol but I still played.
Oh yeah, EA promised they wont monetize bottle passes, but since the sims 4 2.0 is a new game, they're very likely going to π
Bruh, the sims 4 took sims 3 pets and split it into like 3 packs π
Also a lot of my information comes from this investor talk a lot of people missed because the film got announced the same time and everyone focused on that instead of the linking all games together
Including mobile games
https://youtu.be/yP9zM3fa3Ws?si=A4gD81vQ2sjVKZjW&t=133
shared market place, shared gallery, common creator tools, the ability to port things from one game to another and an unified social network
They've had this in the works for a long time 
and it IS a Roblox-ification of the game franchise
But wooo movie
I guess
It's like theyre trying to appeal to 8 year olds πππ
Eh A LOT of adults play Roblox
it's why they're trying to put a dating service in it
It's more the monertisation issue
Where you have to use IRL money to buy virtual currency to buy most things in game
Nuuuhhh, nuuuuhhh π
And we've already seen Project Rene is using microtransaction
If they want them to work together on a shared market
What does that mean for Sims 4?
Also, appearantly roblox is infested with kiddy diddlers and roblox dgaf
Tbf, I think the mobile market is bigger... I am playing f2p mobile games. They impress me. I think Sims is doing this for $$$ which is fine, it's a company. But old fans who want a cc filled game might need to look elsewhere.
Which is why out of everything I'm hoping for a legacy version again
Like how there's a legacy version for 32-bit players from when 32-bit support was ended before Island Living
So the old fans that were dissing AI, etc... are going to be the one left out, lol.
They can still play their old games i guess. They have paid for them. Probably won't touch that new game.
I love sims 4 but man
this last year since the news broke about their plans and I felt like I was the only boring person to watch their investor talks and knew this was coming
I stopped liking the sims 4 long, long ago ππ
Me feeling like the crazy person about their plans to modernise sims 4 and make it more of a roblox type platform
Been burned one too many times with ts
Like I felt crazy because even the sims news people really honed in on MOVIE GUYS WE'RE GETTING A MOVIE
Nobody godamn cares about a sims movie bruh π
Battlepass and quests was always just the start
Its literally the sims 4 tv show all over again
It was to test player engagement
People hyped it up but they cancelled after 1 season cause nobody watched
and to warm people up to paid versions later on
Can this game be online liveservice?
Ooooh, 100%
EA always be looking for ways to f us over ππ
And it's gonna be even worse once the deal is finalized
When the deal is finalised they don't have to do investor talks anymore
I keep warning people that we're about to see monitazation to the likes of which we've never seen, yet nobody believes me π
Welcome to my life for the last year
and I'm coming from love of the franchise
I LOVe sims 4
LMAO that was me but with sims 3
A lot of Sims 2 players hated Sims 3
It's only after Sims 4 came out that I noticed Sims 3's reputation changed
I will say Sims 4's launch on Steam was
Interesting
It didn't have the release spike like most games and rather people trickled in
But that said most people who played had it on EA's own platforms
So it's likely to do with that
But a game being released on Steam with 4k concurrent players on release date is in itself a wild outlier
I'd have been expecting at least 20k concurrent people checked it out because it was on steam and a known franchise
This was the average concurrent players for July
Then august wasn't good either
@worn wolf gurl my ts4 followers on tik tok are dropping like flies lmao
But it is likely down to
Sims players already owned it and I think EA did an awful job at marketing it's steam launch
But Iβm glad they stopped messaging me
It does grow to a height of 25k eventually after a free week though
but it took them
Months
Which is just unusual for steam launches
Usuaully day one is the highest then it falls off
They got that height going F2P
But back when they were released and weren't free, they were struggling making sales
I don't think so much
Most people bought through EA app
Since you have to basically use EA app anyway on steam
So you may as well buy through EA app
Nooooo, they were struggling. Why else would they come out with "if the sims 4 isn't succeessful, there wont be sims 5"?
Its all in the subtext
Tbh I told my coworker to ask AI if she should get a divorce. π
yeah my mom hated sims 3 from the wrong cd codes not working with your game copy and + the sims store when it comes to the crow plant and other items that were in sims 2 for free as part of ep and sp
I hated sims 3 and didnt switch until after Isla Paradiso came out. Was such a die hard sims 2 stan lol. But now I play them both and love them for different reasons. Never managed to find love for Sims 4 though
same lol, been an avid Sims 2 fan and modded it back in the days
I used all sorts of machinima mods to make movies
sims 3 didn't hit as hard but at least it was more modern and didn't take away much from the original Sims formula, Sims 4 felt very bland
Eventually I turned to legacy gameplay and fell in love with Sims 3 for that.
Sims 3 is so good for legacy challenges especially with Nraas SP
It's the one thing that makes me excited about canvas towns in inzoi, the potential for legacies and creating towns where multi generation bloodlines live
Inzoi's current set up with only a handful of residential homes for families to live in doesnt really facilitate legacy gameplay much
ahhhh this game is so pretty: 
hahah don't ask why my character is just walking in the water.... and posing lol
That umbrella is a weapon? looks very sharp
yes. it's range. but I've been kinda being terrible at it so it's also melee for me LOL.
i think it can be both? like i wack people with it. LOL (i don't think that's the optimal use)
it is kinda like a gun. but your character shoots from above. if i get better at this game, i should be able to switch to a sword quickly for melee instead of using my umbrella
shes looks so mean and a total bad..s too but hopeful there is a way to have more then one char or change your chars gender in game on the global version
That's a nice dress
π€£ I swear everyone's playing the opposite gender
if I have to watch the backside of a character for 80 hours, I'm going to choose a backside I enjoy js
Oh hell no. π
Uh what is that?
Someone made a pose set in Blender and turned out badly wrong in game.
my honest reaction
Thats my mom
what dis mean
ah yes. the house is acceptable
ngl a Fallout 4 zombie survival game would go hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L03pY5OvY6U
omg I want this
Welcome to Bethesda's fallout 4 the latest addition to the rpg apocalypse adventure game. Today I have decided to convert the most perfectly balanced game and instead of playing the normal quest of solving the institute, synth and brotherhood of steel issues and instead play with so many fallout 4 mods that the game has suddenly become a zombie ...
the Minutemen are zombies
if the raiders die after being bit, more zombie
Still have to check out that London mod
oh I forgot that one!
same but i have to downgrade it twice now
hey darth hey allπ
like a baby bird opening the mouth for the worm lmao
i remember in sims when my toddler grew legs and got up and walked as an adult scary bugs
the worse bug i had in inzoi was the bald patch headed baby
and the freaky dislocated jaw on the kids
but other then that it still wasnt as scary lol
nah sims monster kid was alot worse the legs was daddy long legs π
Im getting wings cause I had an appointment so waiting for gf to pick me up π€£
your making me fking hungry again i just had burger and fries
my fat butt getting peckish again
oh them look suculent π
very nice
Good too π€£
i could find some room for that in my belly π
I'll try begging ny gf to get me bubble tea after π
ive never had bubble tea you are hooked on it it must be good
It is, yes π€£
I always get passionfruit green tea with leechy popping boba, but their shipment got delayed so ive been getting jasmine milk tea with matcha cloud π€£
passionfruit and green tea together omg pass π
i like passionfruit not with green tea π
passionfruit and mango juice is nice
but i cant imagine it with green tea
eww
You dont taste the green tea π€£
π
i hope you dont its horrible
i once went on a health kick that lasted two weeks
drinking that crap
and i threw the bags way at end of two weeks
never again π
Probably cause you prepared it in boiling water and burned it, so it came tasting bitter af ππ
it was fking foul
Theres a specific temp you gotta prepare it π€£
But bubble tea doesnt have any tea bitterness
I dont think it's even real green tea actually π€
I got a joke to make, but I cant make it here π€£π€£π€£
yeh there is few things in life what are truly that bad
everything else is nice in comparison
Cant be as bad as mine, he turned me gay π€£π€£π€£
everytime my ex boyfriend kissed me he made me wanna throw up not sure if he was brushing his teeth or not but part of the reason was i thought he had bad hygene
π€’
yeh i know he looked clean but

not with that horrible taste
at the time i tried to hold it back and not be sick
but i had to end it eventually lmao
π
i was nice for putting up with it for so long i think
I think I spent more time on traffic than I did at work
i spent two hours on the train at one job there and back in the past
to work
never again will i go that far every morning and night
Itβs RIDICULOUS
I get paid nothing to wipe butt all day
Iβm looking into geek squad after the holidays
Gf used to drive an hour and a half to work each morning until she switched to a closer location
And theyβre giving me an anniversary party Friday with no paycheck
Just a t shirt are you flipping shorting me
i couldnt do it now the cold gets to me so badly in my hands and toes
especially british weather you dont know
what it was like to wait for train π«£
closer work is always better
Welp, I got diagnosed with fibromialgya today, yet another incurable condition without a cause π
Gonna use it as my card for bubble tea
i have ibs and gastroidritis
bad acid reflux
i dont think its that bad these days though
I got ibs and RA as well π
i think i have it pretty much under control right now
I dont π
im not getting as much reflux anymore
Doctor requested an MRI to see if there's any inflammation, and if there is, then i'll be switching meds
doctor wanted me to have a stomach camera but i chickened out of it and basically said if i die i die
thats how scared i am
that was like four years ago
i would of been dead by now if it was serious though
Don't they do it under anesthesia though?
no he said i have to be awake
which made me say no altogether to it......
Welp π
i asked to be put to sleep
and he looked at me as if i asked for the world
π
so i just noped out of it.......
Good thing im not claustrophobic, cause id he having a bad time with the mri π€£
Cause xray appearantly didnt show enough
I tried doing the single ladies dance for my AI on inzoi and almost couldnβt get back upβ¦
im okay for now ive got barely any reflux
barely any stomach pains
i think if i was dying i would be in agony
by now
Welp, my hand has been hurting for the past 3 days, so
i mean i get bad migraines i could just as easy go to sleep
and never wake up again
like a family member did...
Sounisa's family friend went like that
my family member suffered from headaches for years and just took tablets for it it turned out to be a brain tumor but too late
went to sleep never woke up again
we just dont know...
sometimes we focus on the wrong things with our bodies
it happens..
we focus on the wrong pains..
I had a head ct scan a few years back cause ive been getting weird symptoms, nothing going on there π€£
i had a colonoscopy afew years ago and i had to be awake for that camera going up my butt
and it hurt so bad....
it put me off wanting that camera down my throat
to my stomach
π
I once had a giant needle go directly into my joint. Not fun π
it felt like i was getting my insides turnt around π
and i didnt like it
she said she was gonna give me some gas to huff on
but she turned the machine off
π never again
i started my period soon after that experience..
and i wasnt even due..
the things women have to put up with π
its fking foul
Yup π
Gf is still 20 minutes away π₯²
Cause she forgot I had an appointment and scheduled her own π
oh well
....another card i can play for free bubble tea π€
you and that bubble tea
the government gonna make you into bubble tea π
one day
when ai takes all the jobs π
and all the rest of us will be made into batteries to power
the robots π
we'll all become soylent green one day π
Welp, I spent a lot this month, gonna have to go easy next month π€£
that movie still has me thinking about it
when we are no longer of use....π«£
i hope im dead natually before yall get turned into mush π
Ill probably spend a lot again in january since im going away π₯²
never mind enjoy it
i spend too much too
Im going on business π€£
i treat myself cause nobody else treats me
and if i was with someone i doubt he would treat me
like i treat myself
so thats what i do π
the secret sauce is rats and bugs in the food π
and maybe rat droppings
to add alittle extra π
but the future is humans π
I'm never eating at your house
ill have you know im spotless ive got too bad of a germ complex not to be
Gf asked for takeout, so asked her for bubble tea π€£
ive had take out too many times this month but ive got a freezer full of food for christmas
that i dont really want to touch yet
cause if i touch it ill eat it all before christmas
and it took me ages to fill it π
30 pounds heavier after christmas lol
never mind nobody is looking at me π
i can stuff my face as much as i want lolπ
i might cook family members a meal or two at christmas
Do you guys now what I had to put up with just now
Jo mama?
Worse
ive no guy to nag me and say you put on 2 pounds i can tell π
I tried single ladies again and got a CRAMP in both legs
If i had a guy nagging me that I put on 2 pounds, that guy would ve flying out the door πππ
Ah, story of my life π€£
i once dated a guy who wanted me to have half a pizza and him the other half i was starving when i got back home
i will never go out with any guy whos gonna starve me again
ffs
Some dude told me I put weight on and I told him Iβm minding my business he should mind his too
Nuh, if some dude told me that, I would have made him wish he didnt π
I couldnβt it was a coworker π
Can still be passive aggressive
i could understand but at the time i was thin enough and he wanted us to share every meal π
id be a consentration camp victim if i would of stayed with him
ffs
"Yeah, youre right.... i will when you take care of that horrible (insert something) of yours" π€·πΌββοΈ
i sent him straight to the gulag after he starved me
never again
i think i was in my 20s at the time and i was on a health kick at the time
but that broke my health kick........
Had an ex call me fat even though I weighed like 110 pounds (thats like 50kg) while his gut was hanging ππ
being starved with half a pizza lol
oh yeh they do it π
they try it on
try to mould you into something you are not
they do try it on π
but i dont let it anymore...
Ah yeah, he tried to mold me, but at the end he molded himself into a single π©
i dont let nobody control me as if i am a dolly anymore π
well thats why they ended up single...
i got rid
being constantly in the wrong...is draining
Yeah
and bringing drama to my life when there is no drama is draining..
id rather just deal with my own baggage..
and nobody elsesπ
For me, shen I fight with my gf, she always fights back to tell me im wrong, but the next day she fixes whatever we fought about, so at least theres that π€£π€£
yeh thats good but when it doesnt get fixed and issues fester..
it creates resentment
Unless I REALLY lash out, then she apologies on the spot π€£
and thats what i had resentment
towards em
now i dont bother...dating or anything
But I only ever lash out if it's bad
i wont even take the chance now..
im done with it
Eh, it gets me where it should and not fighting builds up resentment π€·πΌββοΈ
id rather be miserable and alone then miserable with someone making me miserable
π
There's bad fighting where you fight just cause, and productive fighting where you fight for a cause π€£
i dont care anymore you cant put all your hopes and dreams onto someone else
and hope they will fufill you
you have to do that yourself
and when they put all their hopes and dreams onto me....
its too much expectation π
im not gonna be noones hope and dream lol
anymore..
ive had some bullshit over the 40 years ive been alive
im gonna go out peacefull and doing what i wanna do when i wanna do it
π
the phone is silent.... nobody is sending me 50 text messages a day
asking me what i am doing and what i am eating..
and where i am...
Im not putting my hopes and dreams onto my partner π
no male noise... in my head..
Im dating for the company
folks, I wasn't even dating. I just met a few people, and one stuck out. We hit it off and could talk. We are now each other's best friend and confidante. Don't overlook your social groups
and thats good for you everyones different but for me im doing whats best for my mental state
i noticed whenever i date my mental state takes a nose dive..
and it goes back up again when im single
lol
I got my childhood friend for that, but i cant do things with him is can do with my gf π€·πΌββοΈ
yeh well i chat online abit that is enough social for me
im happy for people who can do that with other people though
Like guiltimg him into bubble tea π€£
my childhood friend abandoned me and she use to sleep over my house every weekend and i dont even know where she is now shes not on socials
i often wonder if she died π€
because nobody knows where she is
or people never wanted me to know where she was
The only way for my childhood friend to abandon me is if he actually dies π
Cause we're basically siblings π€£
the reason im speculating..
i loved her so much...
and thats what still hurts to this day....
even after all these years
Eh π€·πΌββοΈ
it hurts to feel that abandonment :S
how can you go from staying at someones house every weekend for years
Again, try asking around
to dissapearing off face of the earth...
Somebody might know
and moving away
everybody said they dont know where she is but
i suspect they do
they just wont tell me
because of how close we where and jealousy they wasnt close with her
like me
Or they just dont π€·πΌββοΈ
i dont know
maybe it was one sided and i liked her more then she liked me
but i would rather know the truth
after all these years
because i could get some closure... i dont have
At least i know its not one sided with mine cause he says i love you π
well why did she sleep at my house every weekend and no other girls house
for years
and then abandon me.....
Im probably the only girl he actually said that to π€
π€·πΌββοΈ
Probably cause you weren't looking enough
we where inseprable at the time
dont know
its hard to move past all the things we did together
and then be shut out
Its been what, 20 years?
i knew her when i was 8 years old to 13 years old
yeh but she was at my house
like it was her house
all the time
she might as well of been my sibling
Eh π€£
dont mind me i am in my feels
looking back at the past lmao
im scrolling over the past 40 years π
like its youtube shorts lol
Some guy was taking up 2 lanes so gf left space, and then another guy pulled into that space and now all 3 are blockedπ
im getting flash backs from the past haunting me π
Me when I try to sleep and ny brain throws the most embarassing moments of my life at me π
its road rage on uk roads its like a game with the dlc π
everybody is too mad these days
gta uk...
Funny u say gta cause I live in the gta (greater Toronto area) π€£π€£π€£
after covid i felt everyone here get more impatient
and now everybody on the roads doesnt give a fk lol
i nearly got knocked down more times now then before covid π
We had a road rage incident in my city last year where a guy came out of the car andπ smashed the windshield
Ive also been break checked a few times
and guys say women are the worst drivers..
its always fricking men...
whos crashing
they get self driving cars and they are still crashing the car...
One time a woman came out of her car at a red light to scream at me after I honked at her cause she was driving like a π
I just laughed at her face π
she was probably scared of the road taking it nice and slow while the rest is mad at her π
some people shouldnt be driving at all from what i see
Yup
the amount of crashes round where i live......
Same
its stupid amounts
I saw one literally yesterday
i use to think as long as i was on the pavement i was safe but thats a false security lol
it use to feel like that though...because there wasnt as many cars and idiots on the road
going back 20 years
Gf once got ran over while crossing the road and the guy took her bike to dispose of the evidence, all the while she thought he was a nice guy giving her a ride home π
I still roast her about that π
your gf too nice π
bet you get away with murder
Good thing she has me cause she wouldnt survive
Like, im the reason she even got a lawyer for her last car accident π
what do they say........
whats the saying again about the weak being taken out
lol
i cant think of it my mind has gone blank
there is an old fraze but i forgot it
She also didnt wanna sue the guy at first, so i had to convince her
If it weren't for me, she's be walking around in pain AND an empty bank account π
your gf is a hazard to herself
Yup π
its a wonder she made it to the age she has...
So many times had I double check her "tiktok hacks" π
that is all we want