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Paralives delayed to May due to βlack of activities to do in the town, which dampened the enjoyment of the playersβ
This largely comes down to poor project management and loss of scope
Which happens regularly
That's what we're talking about atm yeah
But
This is why devblogs are usually public and not paid in indie
because you need to make up the loss of knowledge of your team from the wider community (and it's good marketing)
They said the ep gonna be free :x I wonder if this will change
The lack of activities are killing every life simulation these days hehe
They focus too much on making the game pretty
It actually has been controversial to say Paralives was going into early access with less content than Inzoi
Even if you weren't saying it in a negative sense and just factually
It's important too but like we get delays when there a lack of activities π
Tbf it's difficult, especially at release. Activities are things you build up over years of adding things to a game. The sheer amount of things you can do in life is endless and simulating that is insanity
Expansions
Technically those are expansions even if they're not paid
Just curious how they invest?
Wdym?
Man I hate when people just complain about whatever a company does after buying their product it's like critical thinking is nonexistant and they immediately jump the wagon assuming KRAFTON is some AI slop producing dystopian company that doesn't care about its workers
they also almost always point that ai-first narrative and promptly shit on the game
Lol yeah, people don't research what they buy obviously. AI has genuine use cases, especially when run locally like it does in InZOI which is better for the environment
I do still think there's a good Paralives game somewhere but I also think somewhere along the lines they moved away from simulation and into management game
Especially with how they do socialisation in game
Your Paras talk together then, after they finish, you click a popup to decide what your paras talked about and it has a chance to succeed or fail and then they do the animation in response
Which is how I understood their chance card system
But to me, that feels limiting in story telling massively 
I just watch them talk about something random? Then they decide it's an angry conversation afterwards?
While I havenβt been following the development as closely as I do with inZOI, one comment from a playtester really stuck with me. They mentioned that the only noticeable highlight from the gameplay was the crying scene in the trailer, which they said happened multiple times during a single playthrough
It will be interesting to see how it feels to play for sure
Things can be changed based on feedback, and it's not like we have many simulation games to go off of so who knows how it'll feel really. Maybe people will like it, maybe not. That's how innovation goes
Yeah I have had a lot of questions about the gameplay a lot
We did learn some years after the fact that Meet Maggie, Meet Sebastian and Sebastian's Summer were all mislablled Conceptual Demos of what they thought the game would be like
Which is a legitmate thing you can do in the industry
But they never labelled it or made it clear those were concepts
They hadn't even touched a lot of live mode when those had come out
And especially not the basics like pathfinding or sitting animations
People still to this day think it's in-game engine gameplay 
-# Like Henri presenting vid for inZOI? his preset gone after the hotfix! 
I honestly didn't know this but it doesn't surprise me. Tbh those videos were a big mistake because people to this day prefer the original concept artstyle of the paras...
I want to see some actual gameplay and so far they just been throwing dog scraps
I feel like they need to release 30 mins of uncut gameplay footage or smth tbh
I've felt like hank screaming in a car over this game for years
And again I can see all of this coming from common pitfalls and inexperience of the development team that this is their first major game release
But man
There's been a long time where I felt I couldn't talk about it because "indies are morally better" so any crictism of the game and the team was seen as like
an attack
Which will always be wild to me as someone who's worked indie and even founded an indie studio (then lost it for no fault of the team RIP )
Too much animated videos not enough gameplay showcase
They will do a 45 min live mode livestream on Nov 25
I'll give game a chance but them para bodies are hard pill to swallow π€
Indies studios are just small businesses
They're just a buisness
If anyone has worked for a small buisness that was awful
You can probably see why indies can suck too 
I did unpaid work for an entire year once with the promise "next month you'll be paid"
I was art director 
Constructive criticism is important, otherwise you get years into a dev cycle with smth like Yandere Sim that people have been throwing money at but development hasn't really progressed because of feature creep, inexperience, lack of direction...
Fr, they've improved them slightly but Idk why they haven't listened to feedback on this because the overwhelming majority seem to dislike the artstyle
My whole team I was overseeing was paid as well
Damn wtf
Undpaid labour is shockingly common in the gaming industry
I don't tolerate it now
But it happens 
They haven't shown us nothing but animated videos and funny para bodies I need real gameplay footage π
Witchbrook is another game I've seen people fall into the
"Support small teams and studios and publishers!!"
And I'm like
THE STUDIO ACCUSED OF UNPAID UNDERAGE WORKERS???
That supposed footage of the child comforting his mother in the para video is animation
Chucklefish do not have a good track record 
In 11 days, supposedly
We'll see I might need to tune out of everything till the next updates π
I didn't work for Chucklefish btw just to make that clear
Where I worked for doesn't exist anymore
But Chucklefish does not have a good track record
Especially when it came to their big hyped game Starbound 
Honestly surprised they're realising it publicly
the last two livestreams were private
Hi Henry
nope not at all i kinda had feeling it was going to happen given with what happened to gta 6
took them 7 days since the post of that video
so ay hay ho we delaying π
i dont even know what the god damn point is to hyping people up to let them down it happens alot in this day and age
yeah like with what happened to cyberpunk
now that was a shhh show π that thing looked nothing like the trailer it was so funny to me everyone expecting that and then this bare bones thing comes out π
yeah
they did the lying of saying it was actual gameplay too
i looked at that video and said not in this life time π
its not bad now but its still not that trailer
mobile games do it too....i saw poe 2 game play that was nicked by this mobile game that turned out to be candy crush like π
atleast inzoi what you saw was what you got the game play looked as rough as it actually is my zoi last night was taking to his girlfriend through the wall π and kissing her invisibly too and she was nowhere near π
the inzoi game play of the rough walking animation we got before the game came out they didnt sugar coat alot of the roughness
i walked my zoi all around the neighbour hood it cracked me up and still does π controlling zoi with wasd is still crazy to me
The Sims community are anticipating Paralives as a replacement. I don't blame them. But I think it made the Paralives team anxious. First the info graphic explaining what early access is and now this delay. They know Simmers are going to be their target audience and it must be intimidating knowing an entire community is hoping your indie game will rescue them from the clutches of Electronic Arts.
i know maybe it will be maybe it wont be who can say cause it never comes out and probably wont next year they just said that date to see what sticks no actual game play they are going the right way of looking sus..
yeah the same goes for the ads for Whiteout Survival and other games like that
they are hoping once you get in the game youll forget what they just showed you π
yeah i guess so
I've always believed there's what Paralives people think it is and there's what Paralives is
Because the hype has been building for 6 years and people have been imagining themselves playing
Even the most experienced teams with decades of experience will struggle with that
Just seems like its been in developmen for ever!
Inzoi was developed in like a year. Yes I know its not done yet but Paralives also planned an EA launch.
Not gameplay as in was actually in game live mode gameplay
They promise it'll come during early access but their development timeline doesn't reference any work on it at all
This was the latest news
TBH I'd only take anything said after 2022 as actually in game
We know Meet Maggie, Meet Sebastian and Sebastian's Summer were concepts now and not in game
Is that paralives?
Yeah from 2019
Heh Inzoi was not even conceved yet!
I was really confused by the "together card" Paralives gameplay. Clicking on cards doesn't seem very immersive. Reminds me of the board games I used to play as a preteen where me and my friends would pick boyfriends by choosing cards with their faces lol But maybe I wasn't really understanding the whole card thing.
I never understood it too
It's the sort of thing I could see in a mobile game where a lot of the game needs to be touched based rather than mouse and keyboard
and the social wheel might end up being too small
Also I think I played the same board game 
man...seeing literal trolls/haters spreading misinfo on paralives reddit still to this day, is kinda insane lol
and of course getting close to 100 upvotes, smh.
imo, I think that was just their way of making it different from a click bubble menu etc.
functions are similar anyway
I think that's the biggest issue with Paralives currently is the fandom has really moralised Paralives too
Like Paralives is inherently good and work hard!! compared to the evil unpassionate lazy people who work at triple As!!
and it's a larger issue I find with the game industry as a whole when it comes to indie vs triple A
People have moralised them and make personal judgements of other people based on them
and it's like 
The amount of work and passion you have to have to get into Triple A studios alone is like
Downplayed massively
People think nobody actually does any work at them
I don't think either is inherently better than the other
There's some AWFUL indies out there that are MISERABLE to work at
And there's some really good triple As
It's like people geniunely have subscribed that there's no art team??? at Inzoi??? and it's all AI???
and then next breath will be like
"Support artists though"
and I'm like
You threw an art team under a bus and entirely discredited their work though
maybe paralives needs another 6 7 years of donations
that will do it π it should be real perfect then
Just because they work at a Triple A doesn't make them less passionate
The barrier of skill to even get into a triple A is often like
Eye watering
You HAVE to be passionate
You HAVE to be a top end artist
pay packet please π
we may joke, but I can totally see Paralives not reaching 1.0 for another few years....at that point the game would be close to being in development for 10 years.
i can be so passonate too when the money flows π
this passionate how passionate lmao
paralives is jingling the donation box for paralives again
december jingles
Passionate to spend hours upon hours, often unpaid, to hone your work and then either get scouted or apply for one of the most competitve markets in the industry levels of passionate
yeh all while wondering how you can keep your lights on at home
and not live on noodles the rest of your days
Triple As often can have tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of applicants 
ufff haha
yeh and some of them say i like paralives it looks good i can draw stick figures sign me up best artist ever π
They often can and will just scout artists though
yeah, even if it's a small amount, not all big Corpos are bad, specially if it's smaller teams within the big Corpos etc.
And also just so many of these guys don't do basic self fact checking and gets joy of spreading misinformation, like it's politics or some bs 
Anyway reddit and most of these old social media places are still dumpster fires π
mhm 
Paralives seems to be an inexperienced team. And that's okay. All business, big or small, need to gain experience. I think the challenge Paralives is facing currently is over hype. Hype and buzz are great. Over hype- no. This might be a controversial take but I kind of blame all the creators who fled the EA Creator Network and pivoted to Paralives for their YouTube content.
you could call the paralive and inzoi and sims drama politics
and then the real world politics
politics everywhere π
and everyone online is a critic π
even me π
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I think it's a lot of things
I've seen worse game developments some how pull it off but
I worry a lot about them
I'm hopeful for Paralives, looks like a very cute and cozy alternative and more entries into the life sim genre is something I look forward to. But it looks very mobile game and unfinished to me, even after all these years. I was intending on buying it but measuring my expectations by a whole lot.
Both from a project management side and from a player side
Sunhaven as one example. They use cheap, underpaid labor and refuse to give credit π
Also that fake-ish russian survival game
Sun Haven had so much promise
I really enjoyed the game
But honestly like I said unpaid labour can be shockingly common in indie
Even I fell for it and I know I'm not alone in my friend group alone
yeah a lot of tech contractor work is like that, I did a few gigs like that in the past 
That is awful! Sunhaven looks like such a cozy little cute game too.

And the worst part is that if you look at how many packs they sold, they can afford it π
Like I said previously
I was in an art director type role overseeing a team
of paid employees 
While they kept delaying paying me
I WAS MANAGING PAID PEOPLE ENTIRELY UNPAID
There is a game I am looking forward to called Animula Nook? But I'm afraid the trailer is probably more of a concept than an actual game, it just looks too colorful and charming to be real lol
darn, that sounded terrible 
I think it's a real game
It's just going to be a gatcha
gotcha or gacha
that is the meaning behind that pun dude π
Ah I see, like infinity Nikki
A gotcha gacha
They start off super generous for F2P so you think
I should pay a little and support such a generous gatcha (trap one)
And then they cost scale until F2P is priced out and you feel you have to keep paying but now you have sunken cost and time fallacy (trap 2)
And that's how they gotcha
The gotcha gatchas
I find those games to be so predatory. But that is just me. I know there are many players who enjoy those kinds of games
Same thing will be with Petit Planet too
It'll have fun core gameplay but over time you'll start to feel you need to buy everything
I'm going to the moon, they'll never catch me!
Holoverse tends to take longer to cost creep but they do actually cost creep over a slower period
Which actually can be dangerous 
because the cost and time fallacy only gets stronger
People have started leaking descriptions of how their discord livestream of live mode went and
I think that live stream might be why they're delaying the game

I am a patron and I am not going to say details.But they were bugs
And delaying it was the right decesion.
I know it's a hard call but do you think 6 months is a good enough time to fix it all? Because to me, not having seen it and getting information second hand, this sounds like issues with core AI mechanics such as pathfinding and overall AI systems
Which is why you always do this sort of thing ASAP and don't put it off for three years of development
Because pathfinding is always buggy
Even Inzoi and Sims has trouble with it
But this sounds like
Bad levels of it
Constantly bad levels 
But I'm only getting information from people on reddit who could be exaggerating
@fossil meadow I hope so ,I think they can
Itd be a miracle they fix this in 6 months if they weren't able to in a years
Its not like they have no gameplay.
I am not going details.They do have some gameplay base on the stream I saw.
The problem is just some of the bugs.
hi Polka
At the same time, I dont think paralives is in trouble.Yes,I think it was dumb to call a sims killer.I think is dumb to call any game a sims killer.
Hey π€£
I think it all comes down to pathfinding though but
I do standby they should have done it years ago
It's such a fundamental in game design for majority of games, not just life sims
The fact a lot of the game was finalised, including decisions and mechanics that would impact pathfinding and other live mode features
Before they touched live mode
Will always have me screaming like Hank and I have been for years about them neglecting priority systems that can impact a lot if neglected for a long time
This is how watching Paralives development road map has been like
And it only got worse as I got more experience in game development myself
Like none of it is incredibly bad
but they've had a lot of issues cropping up for years
in just how they approach game development and marketing
henry, you're a treasure
Lost and buried under an x on the floor?
Dude casually riding his bike while I was going home
He saw me then stared peddling faster
yeah even elder scrolls and fallout and starfield also has issues with nav meshing/pathfinding at times
I thought if youβre on a bike you ride on the side not the middle π€£
Sup π€£
Knitting rn
A blanket π€£
@worn wolf Cute
Oh I thought with the way you go on it was gonna be a bedtime robe π
I dont think im ready to attempt clothes yet π€£π€£π€£
A few more projects maybe
Well, clothes except scarves, hats and socks π€£
It looks good don't put yourself down
My mum once knitted me a teddy bear and it looked exactly how your blanket looks now
It was just a square
No features
No limbs
No head
Just a square thing
@fossil meadow I guess I didnt understand how essential pathfinding is.
Im not, Im just scared to attempt it π€£
Bruh π
You could be half way there if you carried on with that π€
Pretty sure id need to learn crochet first π€£
It's how NPCs or AI controlled characters get around
And it'll have a knock on effect to other things
Like, with life simulation, if you have motives/needs
Well if your paras can't pathfind then they can't solve the motives on their own
and they will struggle to socialise because they can't get to each other
All I know how to fix is holes in clothes and socks ππ€
@fossil meadow How long does it take to developed path finding
SO I WILL ADMIT
A large part of my job has been leaning over someone's shoulder to watch them develop it and deal with it 
But i's kind of an ongoing thing
You make a new system, especially an AI that has some level of autonomy, then you test the pathfinding and make sure it works with the system you want
And you do that with everything that needs to rely on the AI
That blanket looks like it's gonna be thick and warm β€οΈ
I'll be having you knit me a blanket ππ
I am now a bit upset.They did had pathfinding as done on their progress tracker.That was being decetiful
my last blanket was electric and it set fire so had to throw it it was lovely and thick grey blanket π€
Pathfinding is effected by build buy too
It's why Sims tends to be grid based
(Inzoi also has a grid but it's tiny compared to Sims one)
And why free placement is usually done as an optional feature for players but expected to bug out
Because they have to be able to navigate around the space and items
@fossil meadow Oh that's intetesting
Which always had me
Having questions about the way (almost) everything is resizeable in Paralives
Not that it's impossible just feels more work for a small team to try to make the pathfinding work with
Blame my adhd and autsim @median vigil I get hyper fixated and attach
You don't say
I also have autism and some topics are like
Guranteed to get me going 
It will be π€£
And striped
This but Game Design instead of Graphic Design
I love talking industry
Especially as I think nowadays a lot of people know how games are made but not how studios work
This blanket is probably gonna take me like months π€£
That's as good as what is sold from the shops π€proper little knitaholic π
@worn wolf Is the blanket for someone?
Yeah. Me, myself and I π€£π€£π€£
I do think the team isn't purposely scamming or misleading people
But they don't handle communication as well as they sound like they do

They're really good at saying the right things but not in a way that actually addresses a lot
Better cause machines cant knit
The things you buy in stores are fake knitting cause no machine can actually knit
That's it you making me th next blanket π
And communication being scattered around different places and entire different groups of potential players having different information to each other
is always a recipe for disaster
Its actually awfully easy to learn knitting π€£
as someone who also has autism i know the feeling
I myself learned it in a couple of hours with a youtube video
I have huge doubt on that π€
I get needing funding but
I will always be baffled patreon is locked for months before public
It is
Yeh it's easy for you ππ
Mine would be not fit for a dog or cat to snuggle on ππ
Two weeks in advance? Sure
Months?
No wonder there's a big divide between people who are on Paralives patreon and people who follow youtube and public spaces
π
My very first scarf was full of holes, but it was still ny first scarf π€£
I bet you are telling lies I bet it was great ππ
They gotta rack up em patreon donations somehow π
No, it was an ugly thing π€£
You always do things to perfection it will have been spot on ππ
Not my first time around π
You came out the womb knitting with the looks of that to me ππ
The other day my mind asked me to make a charcuterie board. I HATED the way it looked, though my parents seemed to like it. When I brought up to my mom that I hate how it came out, she just said "eh, people will eat it regardless"
She was right cause 2 hours later and there were a couple of slices of cheese remaining πππ
Yeh your parents know you make good stuff π
I FOUND THE TEDDY BEAR MY MUM MADE
This looks like fabric scraps π
I don't even wanna know what that is
But at least you know it was made with love π
Something down an old crusty sofa π
She bought this super soft fur thing from a craft shop and was determined to knit it into a bear
But the more she knitted, the tighter and thicker it got until she couldn't work it anymore
Sounds to me like she was given them bad instructions and should've followed a YouTube video. It probably gave her the short tail cast on method and BOY is it terrible for literally anything π
My mum loves doing art and she loves doing it but
I say this with love
I have never seen an artist be so bad
If in the hobbyist space
I'm dying πππ
As long as she enjoys it, thats all that matters at the end of the day π€£
It's the thought what count ππ
My mum made a mosaic okay
Outside in our garden
On our lovely tiered stone
I'm wheezing at this π
Oh yeah, but last night I had a 2 hour convo with my childhood friend (a guy ive known since i was 3) and boy did he drop a bomb shell on me π
It's okay I can't make anything good I'm not artistic πππ
I have to look at this
every day
Came out as gay even though he did not set off my graydar whatsover π
It's cemented on
It's beautiful π
Well it's better then I could do anyways
Anyways, he tried explaining his gayness to me and I had to remind him who he's talking to π€£π€£π€£π€£
So I can't say much ππ
But the guy he's involved with is a REAL π© show
Oh dear
Managed to help him come to the conclusion he can do better and stop letting that guy walk over him, regardless of how hot he is π€£π€£π€£π€£
Who?
What my looking at
Dude riding his bike and peddling faster when he saw me
Yo, wthhh π€£π€£π€£
Lmao!!!!
Anyways, he's probably gonna fly over to visit me in June so I can take him to his first pride parade
I didnβt want to run him over but jeesh
I should have followed him
Just outta curiosity
Im also the very first he came out to and said that me being so open about being gay is what gave him courage to accept who he is π€£
In canada, we just go around them by driving on the other lane. Perfectly legal
In florida we run em over
Same here but theyβre supposed to be on the side not the middle
Yoooo Ulterier omg π
I canβt dude always cracks me up
He's also rhe only guy I could ever say "I love you" to, and now it makes sense π€£π€£π€£
Dangerous woman π
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It's nice that he can think to tell you things
Maybe he just told you that so you would stop trying to hit on him π
Im gay af bruh π
so?
Nooo wayyyy
you've only mentioned your gf like 6 times in memory xD
Hitting on him is like hitting on my godamn brother π
You have a girlfriend and youβre gay????
So?
What's a surprise about it
that's how it works
π€«
Oh so what does this mean
I dont swing that way bruh π
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I think about dating women sometimes but I enjoy being single to much π€
Plenty of people are just there for the fun of it tbh π€·πΌββοΈ
Im just pullin your chain you know π
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Me too! I gave up after my boyfriend called me about being lonely at 9pm while I was in my pjs on a week night
But anyways, I remember when my friend came over to visit a few years back, my ex used go get SO jelous and insecure that he would try to hit on me. Now we're both gay. The irony π
I legit told him. I am in my pajamas watch tv or something
π

whaaat? stuff remaining where you left it, no additional bills? crazy talk
Men and their neediness ππ
I find women very attractive and often think about their soft lips π€
I love being single!!!
gorl high-maintenance knows no gender xD
Ok good nobody saw what I said π
We all saw π
I sometimes find myself staring at women's mouths when they talk π
If I find them attractive
The eyes say it all π
Girl, you need to find yourself someone to mess around with so you can confirm once amd for all π€£π€£
keep it PG, folks
I'm scared of being rejected π
I'm not good with people
Kiss around with that is πππ
I'm not good at that explaining myself in romantic ways π
All my friends are in their 70s
The beauty of tinder is that you always know who's gay and what they look for π€·πΌββοΈ
I stopped hanging around people my own age
I just turn d 40
I got friends my age and friends in their 50s π€£
I think I told people in this server I found out I was in a relationship a year later right ? 
Because weβll be dead by 50!!!!
Funny enough, maybe need to practice with visual novel games π
that's like, the only upside
I haven't really done any online dating I tried once but within five minut a I removed my profile ππ
Nervous as hell
Bruh, what π
I went to a wedding and over the course of the day started to put together that I was plus one for a reason 
I removed my profile so fast within like five minut s and said to myself this is stupid π
The fact they didnt have the courtesy to at least ask you to date is a no in my book π€£
That's some dialup 56k speed π
This how its done nowadays tbh π€·πΌββοΈ
Its how I met my current gf
I got a message and panicked and removed my profile ππ
I asked my partner out a year ago but
It was a really awkward conversation
I took away that we're better being "divorced" and being like those divorced couples who remain in each other's lives and are super close friends people think are dating
Their takeaway was we're in a relatonship but we ACT divorced
And you were scared of being rejected π
NO THAT'S THE THING I ASKED THEM
For context we used to date years ago and stayed super close in each other's lives regardless
And I asked them because we were going to buy a house together
So ex with benefits? π
So why not
be a relationship
In this case queer platonic
π I didn't like the person who messaged me so I removed the profile π
Worse
We're queer plantonic so we act like exes but there's no "benefits" in the way it's supposed to mean 
The beauty of online dating is that you can just ghost π€·πΌββοΈ
For those who are afraid of being rejectedβ¦you can be the rejector
I got spooked ππ
But thats just me idk I just donβt have patience for dating
Yeah, no, i could never, im way too needy to only remain platonic like that. And once I break up, theyre outta my life for good π€£
-# don't wanna ruin it but there's
π
Except for my tween boyfriend
Id rather meet someone in real if I was gonna do it anyway π
Me and my tween boyfriend went out for a solid 6 days π€£π€£π€£π€£
Lmao!!!
I'm abit old fashioned with that I suppose
His name was Ivan soooooo cute
Yeah, thats basically what my childhood friend said π€£
We didnβt kiss or anything we just played games a lot and hugged
My mom loved him but then I moved and things got weird
Haha we actually broke up years ago because I was the needy one and spent uh
A good three years? away from each other
We didn't break up on super bad terms but they weren't great terms either
I was SUPER upset they were "leaving me behind" to go to university
But I was also like
16/17 at the time
And they were going to university in another country
and I didn't have the money to visit
I heard he started playing around after me so I feel a little bad
I had a guy like that when I was like 8. We used to lay on tbe grass together and watch the clouds while eating snacks, and then when the stray cat gave birth we pretended the kittens were our children π€£π€£π€£
Awwwww
Then we moved and I never saw em again π
Same!!!
Some interesting stories here make me feel like I should just the nunery πππ
But I think his mother was the reason I stopped talking to him
She probably was annoyed at me for leaving idk
I didnβt have a choice I was just a wee child
I just went and dissappeared one day, thats about it for me π€·πΌββοΈ
Same. I think I found out like a few days earlier π
I kissed my best friend in highschool and she use to sleep over all the time then she dropped off face of the earth and I never heard from her again π€ maybe she got spooked
Bruh, back in highschool we used to have group sleepovers every week π€£
Me at the wedding: At my wedding I think I'd like to have [insert jokey terms and conditions for guests]
My partner: Yeah at OUR wedding
Me:
That was an entire day was like for me
and how I worked it out
I love sleepovers!!!
One time we even had sleepovers all through exam season π€£π€£
But I hate people!!!πππ
Bruh π
She instigated a lot of what went on between us in highschool π€
I was getting into bed with them at the end of the day because we were sharing a bed (Which I DID NOT question)
like
haha
What are we?
Did I mention I'm autistic 
Did you date my friend?
No but I think about that time all the time π€π€because I can't find her on socials even
Did I mention I am diagnosed with everything under the DSM-5
I was always the main culprit. My childhood friend used to ALWAYS get in trouble and get blamed for his "bad influence" even though every stupid thing we've done was always my idea πππ
My friend finally has a good stable life I am proud of her
I love her from a distance
When I was out for my birthday q girl came up to me and said your very beautiful I thought she was hitting on me so I said you are beautiful too and she was then she ran away π€
Was she just being nice π€
She legit used to argue with me whenever I came over
Try asking around through mutual friends? Maybe someone knows
The last straw was when I was invited to a birthday party from someone from a different high school and She FREAKED OUT
Because I didnβt go to her sleep over
Instead compromised and stated since itβs my friends birthday Iβll celebrate on Saturday and see you Sunday
People confuse me a lot sometimes π€
Nuh, sounds like she was hitting on you π€
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Yeesh
I thought let's go for it on my birthday but she ran away ππ
Tbf, you cant be given bpd π
I can be too much sometimes I know π€π€
Being friends with her was STRESSFUl
Not as stressful as life growing up but still I was tired of being her punching bag
Yeah, i dont think ive ever had friendships like that π
Well BPD is hard
I was buying a drink at the bar she comes up to me and says your very beautiful out of nowhere
I have it as well and itβs difficult but manageable
And I said you are beautiful too and she ran lol
Except Iβm an introverted loner that just wants to be near dogs
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I see people I walk the opposite direction
I did once have this "friend" in highschool who started spreading rumors about me and tried to bully me, so my friends started cyber bullying her until she cried to a mutual friend to make them stop π
I see a dog I got a lot of time
I hate that
I had a friend who kept mocking me for being βgayβ and even if I was is that a bad thing?
I have no idea what her problem even was since I was nothing but nice π€·πΌββοΈ
Like wtf
Bruh, id chew their face off π
My friend in highschool couldn't stop kissing me in the toilets π€ then she drops off face of the earth
ππ
I ended up going to boces to finish high school
Im not patient enough to just awkwardly laugh ππ
But I should have told her off and told her to grow up
Tell me about it π
Iβm sorry love that meme now hahahahhaba
My gf absolutely refused to let me bring my gaming rig over. She finally relented when I bought her a fridge π
Yooooo that sounds like my mom
I love my fridges I have too many ππ
I need a new fridge!
And chest freezer
Mine screams
She's definitely the one who gets away with more since im forgiving, but when I'm angry at her I always start bigger fights so she always tries to appease me with food and trips π€£π€£π€£
I've been filling mine with Christmas food and getting stocked π€trying to resist temptation
Lmao I can only be appeased through electronics
Iβm very expensive to deal with
Thatβs why no one like me π
Yeah, but at least usually when I start fights I tend to win em cause I dont start fights often π€£
I love gadgets and electronics too π
I don't let nobody in my family buy for me anymore though because I'm too expensive πππ
Me neither, but it tends to get me what I need from the relatinship π
Lmao I think Iβm the reason my dad retreated back to Africa to have more kids
I spoil myself π
Honestly, I got practically everything I need π€£
Like, the other day my gf asked me what kind of gift I wanted and I had to think hard
Nah β€οΈ
I have everything I want except for a good job and stable housing situation
I have everything I want except a good health π€£π€£π€£
I just stick to myself usually and enjoy my gadgets π€
wait did new "Sims Labs" Project Rene just drop
Wdym? Like, its out?
Oooooh, that..... yeah, ive seen it a while back
And before you ask, yes, that is project rene π
Gurl I canβt even get startted
I keep hearing project rene is gonna be multiplayer online π€
Same!! My gadgets donβt talk to me so Iβm very content π
Its gonna be a glorified mobile game and dont expect anything more
Dress to Impress meets the many cafe games
If we talking about multiplayer life sims, then im curious what kjun is gonna be cooking up π€£
Yeah, got that part π€£
Honestly I'm still on the
We shouldn't have multiplayer
just because it feels every life sim, even outside Sims/Inzoi/Para are trying to become online multiplayer
We're getting a lot of life sim games that are all about multiplayer and dressing up and socialising with friends
If she were alive Iβd be so far in life right now
But no crying cant think of her right now
My gf's stepmom's mom is a raging racist and keeps hating on her son's Indian wife yet spoils her half indian grandkids rotten. Like bruh πππ
Optional mp, far far down the line might be fine π€
Thats me and my nutcase mom
My grandma was racist too!!!
Idk itβs crazy
But apparently my grandpa was more racist lmao
Idk why she loved me
But I got away with Murdder
Murrrderq
Cause you were her granddaughter π€·πΌββοΈ
Idk no one else got the same treatment
But I guess itβs because I liked animals and enjoyed having dinner with her
You were probably just her favourite then π€£π€£π€£
Lmao!!!
Minai you look about 16!
Aww thank you!!
I have that photo as my wallpaper because as crazy as mum is she brings me comfort when she smiles
My grandma is a nut job but most of my family cut her off π
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Lmao
No one talks to my mom
Too angry
But eh
She can be niceβ¦sometimes
Only my uncle still talks to my grandma. My aunt and mom are done π
Aww Iβm sorry
No one talks to my mom because she is very resentful
But I canβt help but love her even when she really doesnβt show it
I don't have much family left alot died when I was like 8 or 9 and I'm 40 now
Ny gradma too. Decades of undiagnosed mental illness
Gurrrlllw
Yeesh :/
Are we from the same family???
I have like 2 close relatives that are old left and 2 distant cousins
Lemme ask did your family come from Ireland
No π
Hahhahaha
It doesn't bother me much that I don't have any family left I just always felt alone pretty much anyway π€
I remember the footages on Youtube were much higher quality? also the models months ago or even older
I wonder what would have happened if grandma chose Canada instead of America
Iβm sure she would still be alive
My distant cousin I give my left over elecronics I'm throwing out from time to time
Youre gonna be one of these grandmas who "adopts" a 20yo who comes visit you weekly so you can talk over tea π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
My grandmother wasn't racist but she was definitely colorist, which is a very sad reality in my home country. My mother is white and my father is black and so my white grandmother would make weird comments about me and my sister's complexion because we both came out quite fair and more European looking.
Itβs sad and interesting
Don't say that πππ€
Love is weird
Im dating an asian, and my mom isnt racist, but she is culturally insensitive
Kinda like accidental racism π
Definitely is sad and complex. Glad the younger generation are moving away from it all
If my mom says the word again idk what to do
And you know what word it is
Itβs annoying and I correct her all the damn time
Yo, same π
Me too!!
And it's not like she says it out of malice π
Yup, same
I'm gonna adopt you polka and your Asian gf ππ jk
I tell her I love her in Chinese each morning
By that time imma be a crone myself π
And I try to speak to my sister in the language but she tells me to stop
Thanks I'm a crone πππ
The worse and hardest language for me right now is Hebrew
Why Hebrew? π€
Idk I was just interested in learning as many languages as I can
Whatever Duolingo has to offer I try
Its easy once you understand the grammar tbh π
Yeah, just gotta stick through it π€£
I knowπ
Yeah itβs really hard for me
Iβm surprised I picked up most popular Asian language and European but idk why
It makes my brain hurt
There are a lot of nuances and gendered objects, but you just gotta stick with it π€£
I guess thanks for the hope!!
You can do it π«‘
Thank you!!!
Yeah, but anyways youre like a few years younger than my mom π€£ππ€£ππ€£
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Age comes for us all
True π€£
Though it seems that age is taking a while to come for me since I still get asked where my parents are πππ
Well I can't be too bad I got young girls coming and saying they think I'm beautiful and running away πππ
At first I thought she's saying it to be nice and part of me still thinks that π€
Lmao!!! Iβm 33 and still get checked for buying NyQuil when Iβm sick
I got highschool boys come hit on me πππ
Like first off my eyes are red Iβm wearing a mask, Iβm sneezing everywhere why you approaching me anyway
I got asked for my id for the longest time but nobody asks anymore π€ ππππ
π₯Ή π€£

I kinda miss people asking for my id but hated it at the time π
Yknow some stores have no choice to card right
It just gets on my nerves when Iβm sick
You might as well reserve a plot π€£π€£π€£π€£
-# Walgreensβs for example forces to id regardless of age
There is hope yet πππ
I know butβ¦
I donβt like being near others when sick cause Iβll get them sick too
β¨ masks β¨ /j
I went to this guy in the bar don't you wanna like card me for my drink he said no it's okay I'm not gonna lie I died a bit inside πππ
My sister had COVID once and walked into Walmart with no mask I was so mad at her
Iβm sorry lemme not
Bruh, when i went to Costco and they offered free booze tasting, the guy started inspecting me and my mom was like "she's 26" π€£π€£π€£
Disregard that
As someone who works in a chain pharmacy
there are way too many people sick who come in and donβt consider others
Yeah π
Bruh, when im sick I can't even come anywhere, mask or not π
But my sister has asthma and diabetes
Not all of them. But those with Covid for example who come in instead of going thru the drive thru
Iβm like GURL
I just suffer through at home. Unless im dying, then I go to the doctor π€£
A few years ago I went into the chemist for two packs of pain tablets the guy said no I said why not he said you might overdose that's too much I said do I look suicidal ffs ππ
I had just an headache
Sorry thats a trigger word
Iβm sorry
No seriously
Iβm apologizing but it triggers me Iβm sorry
Well I mean I suffer from migraines a lot and bad arthritis pain sometimes In my hands
I also suffer from chronic migraines
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arthritis pain
Arthritis suckssss
I don't even know how you are knitting like thwt
-# my backpack is literally a pharmacy with all the bottles I have in there for migraines
I got it at 22
With a lot of tears π€£π€£π€£
Same π
Ok this is crazy
Fr though π€£π€£π€£
Were we secretly split from birth
It does and I get it bad these days but I just soldier on
Some lifetime soap opera drama going on here lmao
Im trying new meds next week and im lowkey scared of the side effects π₯²
Iβm sorry which ones?
My doctor stopped seeing me
lol
Dunno, my rheumatologist gave me a list of a few to try π
Ohhhhh Iβm sorry
I hope all goes well I'm in pain rn with my hands tbh
I know methotrexate was for RA if Iβm remembering correctly 
My therapist had surgery for RA
Itβs one of the meds ik at least
Im just scared its gonna be as bad as methotrexate cause I literally felt like I was being poisoned every time I took it
Iβm glad Iβm not at that point yet
It's cold weather getting here maybe change in weather effecting my hands π€
Iβve heard that from my coworker tbh. Most people on methotrexate I see also take a folic acid
Psshhh sometimes I wear gloves just to play fighting games
Yeah, i took it too. But i guess I got a severe reaction to it cause I still got memory problems long after I stopped taking it. It also used to make me sleep for like 22 hours a day π
I remember playing dead or love 5 online and got kicked out the group for my hand cramping
I played a lot of path of exile 2 lately I think it got worse for being addicted to that game lately
Plus, I felt like a I had the flu for 3 days every time I took it π
So yeah, hoping those new meds won't actualy kill me π
I've taken a break from poe 2 now though because RN burnt out on games
No donβt say that!!!!
We like you
I'm playing inzoi next month with the update
Ohhh yeah next month is December
Same. I got my gaming rig all set up π€£
Lmao Iβm stressed from being evicted
I forgot about holidays and months
I just go day by day
Guess all the paralives fans are gonna have to think of anither Christmas gift π
Oh why cause of paralives?
I would be too π
Maybe heβs mad cause I didnβt marry his ugly looking son
Creep added me on Facebook twice
First rejected
People do things for reasons unknown π€
Then blocked then I just deleted my Facebook
Eeww π€’
Nah heβs selling the place because the condo association got mad at him for not fixing it
And the squirrels are back
Yaayyy rodents
Not a rat π€£
I always wanted one of them but realized it's hard just taking care of myself ππ
I saw a mouse jumping on the glue trap in my kitchen the other day
Yeah, i remember π
Bruh, theyre wild animals here π€£π€£π€£π€£
Theyβre so cute tho
I don't have th energy for high energy animals π
Can hear em rustling in the garbage every night
And theyre also the reason why we cant take out the garbage the night before π
It was like the exorcist mouse addition though
I bet your neighbour keeps feeding em πππ
Someone always is feeding them
I used to have them under my deck and was grateful for them
But they left because wasps took over
Trust me, they feed themselves enough with garbage π
Someone wants them instead of a cat π
Chubby fluffers
Some people have em as pets
One time when I snuck out of the house at 12am waiting for my friends, there were like 20 circling around me π
I mean theyβre cute and all butβ¦.
Trash pandas
I wanted one but it would be tearing my house apart while I passed out ππ
I remember my brother climbed through his window because they wouldnβt let him through the front door of his home
Yeah exactly!!
Yooooo, that actually reminded me of a funny story π
Yeh but they are kinda cute though π€
Tell meeeee
One time my childhood friend woke up to pee and heard rustling coming from tne shower so he went to wake up his parents (it was YEARS ago). Anyways, a stray cat somehow managed to climb into their house even though they lived on the 2nd floor and he almost π© himself π
Yooooo
That reminds me of when I was in the Bronx
And after every Christmas weβd get robbed. So one night my mum yelled at the robbers and told them can they wait till morning cause she needs to go to work the next morning and they disturbing her sleep
Bruh πππ
I think we actually almost got robbed once (or killed) π
I was in the shower the other night and I heard a weird laughter and there was nobody here just me and it's freaked me thinking on it ever since π€
BATHROOM GHOST
I had one that smacked my sister and my butt each time we showered swear
Never watching the conjuring again
Out of nowhere the laugh came I was like what's so funny π€π€ anyway I kinda was abit shook after that but I've brushed it off now
Hahahahha
Like, i was like 12 and me and my aunt (who's a year older) were sleeping over alone at her house while my grandparents slept with my parents down the street. Anyways, we were sleeping in the same bed and I accidently turned and kicked her in my sleep. But then we felt a breeze and realized the front door was wide open. So we immediately got up, went to lock it with all the locks as well as piling some chairs against it, and walked around the apartment with a frying pan. We were too terrified to go back to sleep so we jusf stayed in bed but then 10 minutes later we heard someone trying to lockpick the door π΅βπ«π΅βπ«
To this day my mom still doesnt believe me π
i put it down to me watching too much conspiracy theories on youtube lately π
im spooking myself
Ghost can scare me all they want wooooo
Actually Iβd rather deal with a robber than a ghost lmao
Iβm that type of crazy
Right? My aunt said that if she was sleeping there alone, she would have ran out of the house in her bra π
spookie
I have a ghost story too π€£
If I see a ghost
tbh ive been laid on the bed and everywhere in my bedroom has been hot except the one spot at the bottom of my feet where ive felt a light breeze half asleep
and thought i left my fan on
and i didnt π
Nothing as spooky, but when i was a child home alone, I heard noises coming from the bedroom door, ao I looked over and I literally watched as the door handle moved and the door swung open but there was nobody there π΅βπ«
Idk if my dog could see them or if he had doggie dementia
too many spookie youtube stories π
Happened more than once too
O
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G me too
In my room too
Door is locked
Just opens
Creepy af
my mum spooked me when i was younger she said boogey man is in the cellar and everytime i went down there i always ran back up fast as i could out of there lol
i thought better run fast boogey man gonna get me
she gave me trauma im sure lmao
Lmao my mom scared me with the βkiller beltβ
stuff of nightmares
I used to think it was real
I traumatized my brother by telling him there's a smiling cat that watches him when he sleeps π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
its real enough in the mind π
Iβm dead lmao
its always the what ifs π
He refused to go to sleep by himself for the next 3 years π
I feel like if I died Iβd be the most f upped ghost ever
Iβd mess with people so bad
whenever my letter box flap smacks shut i always say its the wind π
Take the batteries out the remote
Same. I'd haunt so many people to hell π
-#
Well I kept getting startled by my stairs but at least I know it's not ghost, just π© and woods
Lmao!!!!!!
i mean you and your pranks i dont doubt π
Pranking is amazing
Wish I could tell myself that, but too many unexplained occurances π
I put a fake giant roach on my sisters laundry basket hahahahhaa
Yo that was funny as hell
Like, my gf once had her earplug fall out and she could not find it no matter how much she looked. Found it neatly laid on her pillow like a week later π
my letterbox flapped and smacked just now
Lmao!!!
Maybe theyβre not haunting us
Maybe they truly are f ing with us
This me and my mom's cat Venus ^^
Soooo cute!
it seems to me like that would probably be the case more then anything because if you was a ghost you would fk with someone too π
Also I once lost a giant lego piece i jusf finished and it accidentally fell. Like I tore my room apart and it just wasnt there. My gf came to help me look and found it inside my bag across the room π¬
@ruby heart He is cute but a handful
Gurl oh yes I would hahahaha
If they laid out clothes for work Iβd switch it
I am cooking dinner
how do you know if you got a new letterbox that if it didnt flap it was because it was too hard for the ghost to lift up and smack down π
This is my childhood friend's new cat. He got her from the shelter and so far she's his only stable relatinship π€£π€£π
and not jus that you didnt have a ghost lol
Lmao ghost be like it wasnt me βeven caught you on camera β it wasnt me
she is beautiful though i can see why hes attacthed to kitty
Aww he looks well polished
But I have a serious question
Yeah, she's very pretty but he says she's the sweetest cat he's ever met and thats why he fell in love π€£
How come we donβt experience dinosaur ghost
Like thats some real ghost hunting ya know
That's a valid question
Having a raptor run through the wall
And also, why is is always ghosts from the 1800s and not a 2007 ghost rocking it to Britney Spears? π€
EXACTLY!!!!
how come all the ghosts are always told to be wearing victorian era clothes and not up to date trend clothes lol
Gurl you know it tooπππ
Also, where's the 'gyat' ghosts at? π€£π€£π€£
Have me a T. rex in a Victorian outfit
i was thinking the same frickin thing as all of you lot
the ghost is like let me just finish doing the corset before i go haunt
imagine if you had to live in that for eternity
Hold up gotta get my wig on hold on sweetie Iβll haunt in a minute
Tbf, I dont think it's a t Rex problem. You try tying a back facing corset ππ
gotta take the false teeth out
The more I think of
The Sims Labs: Life Together
The more mad I am that's it's real title for Project Rene
Teeth be on the floor
that would be scary enough to see a ghost with the hole in the mouth with no teeth
I want to life with you
Yoooo lmao then itβs time to go
constipation would be cured forever
A ghost with bad hygiene
If you thought EA can spell, you'd be sorely mistaken π
AINT nobody got time for that
I want to life in a place where I can see the ocean every morning
So many your instead of you're in their π© games
well some people report they smelt perfume always lingering around that wasnt theres maybe the ghost is trying to cover up their stench π
It just sounds awful the way they use life in the title
My mom was homeless I was homeless and still took care of myself
Cause ghost didnt bathe before they died or they secretly using up that expensive perfume
Iβd do the same
π€·πΏββοΈ
Who gonna check me boo?
YO, I just realized something π
Omg what
i use to have an old teacher in school who use to cover up her stench with perfume you could smell her amile away and every time you had her class she would spray down the aisle as if
you where the one that stunk
lmao
Could it be the perfume they got sprayed with after they died for the funeral? π
Could beβ¦or from macys ya neva know these days
yeh thats possible and if you smell a burnt smell its the cremation
Thatβs why so many people get false accused for stealing
experience together but not live together maybe? (the game)
Bruh, I once got falsely accused for stealing π
i once had the beeper go off because i just wanted to look round and i went out without buying
the beeper went off at the door
i was like nope not me and just they let me walk out
Ughhh
but i dont know if they set it to go off on purpose
or something on my clothes set it off π
I remember I got beeped for water at Walmart by accident
Tried to walk out with shampoo and conditioner normally out of self checkout and the worker yelled at me "you gotta pay for those!"
My gf produced the receipt, but I was triggered π
Oh I had a sales associate tell me to start baggging my items
I was like honey I donβt work here
i bet you was i was triggered that time the buzzer went off at the door
there was mirrors all over the place
My Walmart has mirrors cameras everything
i had my hands in my pant pocket the whole time i did the look around too
What they actually need to lock up are the meds
I have bad allergies so when I buy Benadryl I have to check to make sure itβs still sealed
and i thought to myself why would i be taking from this shop i could afford the shop if i wanted π
feeling
Happened to me 3 times cause we were at the mall going from store to store before realizing they forgot to remove the tag so we went back to ask them to remove it π
Gurl like I wouldnβt steal from Walmart anyway imagine how embarrassing thag must be
If imma steal itβll be the crown jewel
Like wtf
it was only a cheap shop i was looking around and buzzer going off π
but some people do nick from there
My gf's sister always shoplifting small items even though she can afford it π
but hands in small pockets the whole time
I get socially profiled a lot
Itβs annoying
If I wear my wig I donβt
When I wear braids I do
Got karmad though cause she had her phone stolen 3 times in like 6 months π
If I go natural I got the whole management team βassisting meβ
i know people like that my families friends
they do that too
lol
We only came for cheddar biscuits!!
when i was little i got told if you ever think you are gonna steal just come to me and i will buy you the thing you was gonna steal and so i never stole :/
Oh crap I think my moms home
but i never got the thing i was thinking to steal cause i never thinked to steal lol
π
are you and your mom on rocky terms
it sounds bad if you are scared when someone comes homeπ
Yeah, dat true π
it looks like something up cause she vanished
ah dear
Yeah π«
maybe its a blessing i dont have much family left
lol
my family was crazy when i was young and now everythings calm
π
calm cause noones left...
Same, but i still got my family π
Iβm here
i got two close relatives and thats it and they are old
I got a LOT of family members π
what is going on it sounds rough at your house
ill pray for your sanity
i lost mine years ago π
i went from a nut case family always drama
to peace and quiet
when you get older and you see people get older with you
Lmao I canβt say what my mom does but she has serious anger issues
that doesnt sound good but i dealt with violitile family as a kid
Wait I just got your meaning lol slow to translate sry
If I take my tablet downstairs am
To remote play
Sheβs mad because I was having serious GI issues
all i can say is violitile family life gets better when alot drop off
Speaking of drama, you all wanna hear some juice? π
and just die π
yep alot in my family where and now they are gone and i am here
Iβd be a millionaire
I canβt even validate her without her getting angry Jesus lol
Ok enough about her
and whatever the cost to my sanity ill live as long as i can
the bit of sanity i have left
after crazy life π
I believe I am insane from life and genetics π
i still feel my life isnt over yet though