inzoi-chat

[bleak pulsar]

With a sweetheart 😭

[wheat lantern]

omg it would be funny if Inzoi had apartment systems and the "landlord" is basically the tanuki from Animal Crossing.

It's already canon cats are our gods for our zois like c'mon

[subtle mason]

Having malicious npc would be fun

[bleak pulsar]

All my zois cheat abit too much 😭

I have to cancel them off sometimes

When they wanna be naughty 😭

[wheat lantern]

omg or like have an NPC competitor for your active jobs? Can you imagine an NPC for the KPop idol job who would actively try to sabotage your practices or shows?

[halcyon terrace]

Apparently polkas zois set the mood in public

[wheat lantern]

For the deli/amusement parks, it would just be karens throwing tantrums or something.

[bleak pulsar]

I love it when they all gather around and chat as a big family

[halcyon terrace]

Yeah it’s cute

[subtle mason]

Unhinged ppl in mascot costume... ex-employee or something haha

[bleak pulsar]

The new update has made things better

In that regard

[halcyon terrace]

I really love playing video games on the tv

[calm ether]

Great save

[bleak pulsar]

Sitting on the floor and chatting to their siblings and mother and dad ❤️

[halcyon terrace]

Comes and breaks something on our lots

[subtle mason]

Businesses

[bleak pulsar]

What ?

🤔

[halcyon terrace]

Or be like my former neighbor and dig threw their trash

Omg

[calm ether]

Nothing im messing about u made a little booboo in your text that i saw

[halcyon terrace]

We need dumpster divers

Hahaha

[calm ether]

Dont mind me

[bleak pulsar]

Oh 😂😂

[calm ether]

Is it better to have the black and white robbers rumaging through trash cans or well dressed civilians doing it?

Aesthetically

[halcyon terrace]

Oh civilians lmao! I didn’t know dumpster divers were real until I met my neighbor

[bleak pulsar]

I let my baby go down the slide and it was the cutest thing 😭

[halcyon terrace]

Aww

[bleak pulsar]

Next to the zoi bathing them

I love that

[wheat lantern]

omg yas

They could be mascots for another deli place or amusement park

MASCOT FIGHT

[bleak pulsar]

Now we just need strollers to take the baby's.for fresh air 🤔

At the beach

[calm ether]

We al have neighbours like That dont worry

[halcyon terrace]

Or little baby backpacks

[bleak pulsar]

That would be so cute or baby slings

For around the body

[wheat lantern]

I wouldn't say well dressed but normally dressed people would be better imo. I know you could dumpster dive in Urbz for reference and your character was normally dressed. Lol. Inzoi could go for the realistic route and make NPCs who are homeless or something if you put settings for a dystopia that spawns them.

[bleak pulsar]

Citizens rummage through the dumpster in their own clothes in reals

So it makes sense 😂

I need to find a way to trigger the thief at my zoi house 🤔

[halcyon terrace]

Omg imagine zois shooing them away

I tried putting a gold bar to get robbed but Minai threw it away

[viral sigil]

Haha had that exact same thing happen to my Zoi

[halcyon terrace]

She didn’t throw away that designer handbag tho 👀

[subtle mason]

What could lure them?

[bleak pulsar]

She can tell the difference between a rock and a bag 😂

[halcyon terrace]

Hahahaha

[bleak pulsar]

Laptops all placed in a line at the door 🤔

[halcyon terrace]

Lmao!!🤣

[viral sigil]

Heh I remember during the Halloween event I chased one kid down the alley to give candy and another kid took the oppurtunity to make off with my laptop.

[halcyon terrace]

Omg I remember that XD

[bleak pulsar]

I had a laptop on the table and it disappeared I don't know what zoi nabbed it I looked in all their inventory and nothing 😂

It vanished into thin air

Had to put another laptop there

[sly ermine]

[bleak pulsar]

The baby sitter probably nabbed off with it 🤔

She dances on the table anything is possible

[rare cedar]

I always put my tablet and laptop in my pack now.
I get them out, click them to do whatever and before unpausing, reclick them to queue the action to put them back in my pack.
Haven't lost a single one this game... so far.

[bleak pulsar]

Yeh my zois just leave it out on the table for all family to use 😭

[rare cedar]

YEah I lose plenty when I do that as well

not a big deal when rich, but when struggling it's another matter entirely

[bleak pulsar]

Dath started out with a big back PC and then graduated to a laptop

[halcyon terrace]

Irl or game

Wait why am I even asking LOL

[bleak pulsar]

Game and probably irl too

Considering how old he is 🤔

[sly ermine]

[subtle mason]

Speaking of which I finally have a ghost living in my lounge

[rare cedar]

back in 0.1.0 in adam entertainment HQ, all the work computers were laptops.
Also you could enter the premise even without working there...
So I used to go there as a new game, nab every laptops in my bag, and go back home

very good money selling all but one

Since then the devs changed all the laptops for computers... haha

[subtle mason]

Except the reception area...

[bleak pulsar]

I use to have smoke coming out of one of the PCs I thought it was the GPU smoking 😂😂

Turned out to be a house ghost

In the zoi house

And steam coming from the bath tub

Alot of spooky things happen oOOOo

[bleak pulsar]

What's this🤔

And why does it say senior 😭

[subtle mason]

Have to hold left click for the thing to show up (difficult to take a pic 😅) I think it's a ghost playing guitar

[bleak pulsar]

Speaking of seniors.... One of my zoi women is wrinkly and done lol and her husband looks young and good looking still

He aged like fine wine 😭

And he's faithful still bless him

No sweethearts in the list

[fair quarry]

Are you sure he isn’t immortal?/j

[bleak pulsar]

Nah he has good genes 🤔

And hers are slightly worse

Her mother aged badly too

[bleak pulsar]

He's probably close to dying off soon

[halcyon terrace]

Danggg

[bleak pulsar]

That's life 😭😂

[rare cedar]

Another new interaction urge we can not complete ?
I've tried various "I miss you" and other convo in there, the urge wont complete.

there is no "Speak from heart"

[bleak pulsar]

I've used these in the romancing 😂

My old zoi senior woman said she wanted to spend more time with her husband

And I was like you ain't got much time left 😭

Better get at it 😂

[rare cedar]

I tried miss you even when right in front of me, didn't complete either oh well.

[bleak pulsar]

Anyway she just had a baby not long ago 😭

My old senior woman

Her husband really fertile

[halcyon wadi]

i've had speak from the heart before

Inzoi has too many dialogue options. they really should combine some

[bleak pulsar]

I haven't had that

Appear

But the others yeah..

One of my zois miscarried twice 😔

[halcyon wadi]

jeez

[bleak pulsar]

Made her and her guy stressed

[jagged void]

Didn't know that was a thing

[bleak pulsar]

When they don't get pregnant and do the test

It says miscarriage in the memories😖

[jagged void]

Oh wow 😧

[hasty ice]

yeah that needs to be fixed

i think its a translation issue maybe

[halcyon wadi]

it happened to me too and she was sad about it. said "struggling to get pregnant"

[bleak pulsar]

It's a far fetched translation.error though 😭

[hasty ice]

yup 🤔

[bleak pulsar]

It's reaching is that error 😔

From not pregnant to miscarried

[bleak pulsar]

It made her guy stressed and upset too

[hasty ice]

dang 😭

[bleak pulsar]

His emotes changed because of it

To sad

[halcyon wadi]

i think its real bc before it happened she was super angry and stressed at her husband

[thorny jacinth]

Did yall see Satch video ? Lol the video title is questionable.

[bleak pulsar]

No I'm not interested in what he says 😂

[hasty ice]

same. what are youtubers

[bleak pulsar]

It's just click bait 🤷‍♀️

[halcyon wadi]

i did. he made some good points... points that are repeated over and over in the brainstorms. the title is clickbait tho

[thorny jacinth]

Lmfaoo I clicked the video to see what the comments said .. 90% of the comments said they love the game now so I know he probably salty 🤣

[bleak pulsar]

Baited to read the comments 😂

[bleak pulsar]

He loves sims he bought all the packs he reminds me of lilsimsie or something 😂😂 they are all biased

I can't watch them

I remember the days when sims came out and there was no YouTubers reporting on things 😂😂

But now everybody talks on it and the magic is gone

[thorny jacinth]

Lmfoao she was so fake

[bleak pulsar]

Along with the maxi reputation

All gone are the good days 😭

Now we just reveal in the ashes

[hasty ice]

inzoi time...

[bleak pulsar]

Yeh was time for something new

[hasty ice]

i dont wanna wallow in ash-laden fandoms

😭

[bleak pulsar]

You sure you ain't already 😂

[hasty ice]

forever dead inside from a certain one.

i just want to forget it

[halcyon terrace]

Omg I’m so lazy

I can’t mod anymore lol

[bleak pulsar]

sigh

[halcyon terrace]

Whats wrong with me

lol

[hasty ice]

burnout prolly

[thorny jacinth]

I can’t wait for us to reply back to npc ..some these npc are rude 😒 I need my “run over” animation real quick

[hasty ice]

like me with writing

[bleak pulsar]

Everybody gets burned out

[halcyon terrace]

True

Guess Ill wait for official scripting

[hasty ice]

and i no longer need it 😄

i figured out how to alien pregnancy LEGIT without mods

[bleak pulsar]

Why what have you been doing now

[hasty ice]

lol

[bleak pulsar]

Oh

[halcyon terrace]

Oh yeah the prego man mod hahaha

[bleak pulsar]

So you've got a lot of green babies running around now 😂

[hasty ice]

its like a lil exploit, you customzoi, pick a preset change only gender, suggest baby or cheat baby, change gender back, voila

it works for m/m and f/f

[hasty ice]

in time XD

[hasty ice]

its fun to do for laughs xD

[bleak pulsar]

Men wish they could get pregnant for real but they should be careful what they wish for 😂

[hasty ice]

Lmao 😭

[halcyon terrace]

Aww man mod enabler from kippett broke

[hasty ice]

use ue4ss

oh wait that might be for different stuff (thats for lua)

[halcyon terrace]

Ah well i was using it to play sims music in game lol

[bleak pulsar]

You know I could never play sims without mods yet I can do it easily with inzoi 🤔

[hasty ice]

dude, just stick a youtube on and boom

😂

inzoi hardly needs mods

[bleak pulsar]

At the start of sims I played without mods when there wasn't any

But after that always with mods

[hasty ice]

i have a few i 'need'

especially rupert's hair

[halcyon terrace]

LOL

[hasty ice]

😁

[halcyon terrace]

well it’s a good game either way

[hasty ice]

i have the project for rupert's hair, i can update it easily

[halcyon terrace]

It’s just nostalgia

[bleak pulsar]

I'm happy with Inzoi being mod free for me right now

[hasty ice]

i have lots of hair clothes but not nearly as much as i needed in sims

only 68 mods here

[wheat lantern]

I hate that specific mod doesn't differentiate which Sims music is playing. I hate Sims 3 because it sounds bland and Sims 4 even worse. 🤮

[thorny jacinth]

Or cc 🤣🤣💀

[wheat lantern]

I just end up whipping out YT and blasting the Sims 1 and 2 soundtracks

[rare cedar]

Just found a way to earn infinite meow coins.
Go out in regular clothing in winter, wait for your zoi to ask you to switch to better clothes.
Switch to winter clothes, get the +5, then switch back to everyday clothes...
Rince repeat

[bleak pulsar]

Yeh once I had cc in sims I never could play without it again but with inzoi it's been good from the start

[thorny jacinth]

Thank you omg

[halcyon terrace]

Wait cant we replace with the modkit anyway? Imma check

[rare cedar]

well if you're gonna do that might as well use the cheat, but I found it hillarious

[bleak pulsar]

Well at one point there was no toddlers or eye lashes in sims 😂

And a lot left to the imagination

[brazen gyro]

game crashed in build mode i just lost a whole hour of building

[wheat lantern]

I only know of this one.

https://www.nexusmods.com/inzoi/mods/1208

[halcyon wadi]

omg

[wheat lantern]

Idk how to use modkit or use that

[rare cedar]

Also my date keeps ghosting me.
He asks me to meet him at the park every evening, but he never comes.
Should I be getting a message here ?

[thorny jacinth]

I only miss sims cc’s but I love the driving in Inzoi that’s why I would never go back to sims .

[halcyon terrace]

It doesn’t work 🙁

[bleak pulsar]

This is why you save regular🫣

[subtle mason]

I hope it auto saved your build

[rare cedar]

yeah I do that too, build for a bit, then exit back to the temp zoi on the lot, save, then go back into build mode

[thorny jacinth]

Change your save for every 10 mins ..that’s what I do .

[halcyon terrace]

I put my build on canvas private…it’s just the shell of a house and the furniture I put in

[bleak pulsar]

I don't miss anything I love the more realistic look of inzoi

[bleak pulsar]

I can't trust auto save 🤔

I need to make sure it's saved

So I'll do it twice 😂😂

[rare cedar]

Also never build from the studio

[thorny jacinth]

Yesss atleast zoi’s don’t have that random smiling/laughing thing that sims use to do ..annoying 🤣

[brazen gyro]

It’s set to every five minutes

[rare cedar]

Get a temp zoi on the lot, and build from the lot

[thorny jacinth]

I do both for a peace of mind lol

[rare cedar]

too many bugs with the studio, including having your work labelled under another author >.<

[brazen gyro]

I was editing my nightclub, the one venue that’s huge but empty. Idk what I’m doing

[halcyon terrace]

Meh it’s not the end of the world…imma play and give my zois new hobbies

[hasty ice]

i love that canvas lets you pick any lot in the world as a choice to search for

gives me a good list of what i want to replace 😁

like it even gives the ones that cant normally be edited without editallsite cheat

[wheat lantern]

I do wish that I knew which lots were what size though that we're trying to replace. :<

[hasty ice]

🥴

[bleak pulsar]

Some people like that quirk about sims and the push ups 😭 😂😂

Not me

[halcyon terrace]

Oh you’re so right…

[wheat lantern]

For example, I wouldn't know off of memory what the lot size is for the aram private estate is in canvas but can't be arsed to go into the lot itself.

[halcyon terrace]

But I do wish zois would talk with the emotional state their in

[rare cedar]

I started studying tricks for my next big build.
Got the basics down but a bit intimidated by it...
When I have time (which could take a while), I'm starting that

[severe hedge]

off now time to cook n play inzoooiii

[hasty ice]

if you click the lot it tells you without having to go in

top right corner, next to a cube

[wheat lantern]

omg I need to try this

[hasty ice]

it'll say

yeah

not all lots but for sure all residentials

[halcyon wadi]

i'm so scared to build in Inzoi... sims 4 is a lot of things, a bad builder, it is not

[thorny jacinth]

I haven’t seen any bugs since the March update ..I’m happy about that .

[hasty ice]

its right below the blue house icon

this update was a BIG win for me

[rare cedar]

The no small talk is so godly.
Best mini patch ever.
Now if they finish the classic UI and better the age group options from 0.7.0 the game will be in super shape.

[bleak pulsar]

i know it is hard to build in inzoi i've just thrown stuff together 😄

[hasty ice]

i got rid of so many unnecessary mods this patch

because they were added in ☺️

[rare cedar]

Takes a lot of practice, and dont be afraid to download big builds and study them/play with them in Build mode.

[sacred spindle]

Anytime I get the urge to play sims, I immediately lose the interest when those quirks happen 😅 I very much prefer the realism in inzoi

[bleak pulsar]

im not downloading big builds because they are not big enough i have large familys and all the bedrooms are not enough

so ive started making my own

with 5 or 6 bedrooms

[halcyon terrace]

I can’t build or model zoi faces

[hasty ice]

i download all houses, can only do faces

i dont have the patience/talent to build

[rare cedar]

I definitely relate to that, my Georgian home above will be build with enough room for at least a family of 14

[halcyon wadi]

i wish i was good at building

sims 4 inflated my ego a bit

[halcyon terrace]

I once made a beautiful home replica of dogs life home in ts3

[hasty ice]

i dont even know where to start with building

[rare cedar]

You have no idea how much I sucked. Practice !

[halcyon wadi]

Inzoi humbled me

[bleak pulsar]

i just threw alot of bedroom blocks together 😄 and called it a day

[halcyon terrace]

First and last would never do it again hahaha

[sacred spindle]

I’m enjoying creating zois so much. That I haven’t really played the game yet lol

[hasty ice]

all my houses always came out as boxes

[bleak pulsar]

i call one of my houses the compound 😄

[sacred spindle]

When I’m done with my zoi I think I’ll share her in the channel maybe

[bleak pulsar]

its like rows of bed rooms

[hasty ice]

Lol

[bleak pulsar]

with kichen and toliet

like a jail 😄

[hasty ice]

Lmao!

was gonna say

[bleak pulsar]

yeh but it works my zois are not bedless in the big families

and taking bed turns like its a shift 😄

[hasty ice]

i do that for unplayed 'npc' families i add

download an 8 zoi house

boom, done

[sacred spindle]

I’m better at creating zois and decorating. I’m scared to try building. It looks intimidating but I want to try one day

[hasty ice]

i love creating zois

even decorating gets me impatient

[halcyon wadi]

it's crazy how far Inzoi has come in a year, and it's even crazier that they thought they'd be out of EA in a year

[bleak pulsar]

i've filled up all the plots with my zois......family there is no other zois have houses in cayaha

[rare cedar]

Georgian home above is 3 boxes. The main body, and the 2 wings.
The roof is going to be a pain though

[bleak pulsar]

i own all the houses in cahaya 😄

[halcyon terrace]

lol @bleak pulsar

[hasty ice]

im holding off on making more zois due to paranoia

i am so worried about 'enhances to facial sliders'

[sacred spindle]

It depends for me really. If I know the style I’m going for it’s easier

[bleak pulsar]

well big families need to stretch out.. when it gets too big 😄

we only are allowed 8 to a house😭

[rare cedar]

Nyami told me how to fix this, and it worked

[hasty ice]

what did i fix again

[bleak pulsar]

is it sketchy 😄

[rare cedar]

bigger household to 14 ?

[hasty ice]

ohhh

yea

lol

[rare cedar]

Yeah the UI is crapping all over that

[halcyon wadi]

oh i love how Canvas builds are organized by address

[hasty ice]

sorry brain went dead for a sec

[bleak pulsar]

its it working right ?

[hasty ice]

same!

[bleak pulsar]

😄

[hasty ice]

although its only registering new builds to it i think

[bleak pulsar]

yeh no im good 😄

[rare cedar]

it's minor but once my other issues are fixed with the game, I'm asking the devs for bigger households too.
I think I'm the only one, everyone plays with like 1 maybe 3-4 zois, and here I am with a family of 14
😹

[halcyon wadi]

is that a mod

[sacred spindle]

I’m most excited for the high school and canvastown updates ngl

[bleak pulsar]

ill only play with a family of 14 if they make it so you can im not bodging the job 😄

[rare cedar]

I've not published it but yes
I could zip it and trade it to you in PM if you want

[hasty ice]

lol feel free

[halcyon wadi]

im hoping it comes with university updates but i wont hold my breath

[hasty ice]

(it was my idea, but i dont mind if you share it)

[halcyon wadi]

oh no that'd be too much lmaooo

i can barely keep up with two!

[bleak pulsar]

they should make it so you can have two rows of zois

double the bar...

[hasty ice]

im killing support for more of my mods

so glad they are not needed

[bleak pulsar]

why are they not needed

[hasty ice]

integrated into the game for the most part

[bleak pulsar]

oh ok

[rare cedar]

The age group options are VERY lackluster

[hasty ice]

hell i dont think body sliders extended is even needed anymore

[bleak pulsar]

well my teenagers sometimes look like adults and young adults

[wheat lantern]

Dumb question but if I wanted to have my zoi propose/get married in, which city should they get married in? Bliss Bay or Cahaya?

[rare cedar]

mods are still better... but depending on how you play, I could see most ppl being satisfied with them

[sacred spindle]

Same! The high school update seems like it’ll be a big update

[wheat lantern]

For sure I wouldn't have them get married right now in Dowon where they're at. 🤣

[bleak pulsar]

i find myself checking alot at what age they are so i can decide on the next course of action

[rare cedar]

Thats not a mod though, thats the devs that need to fix the adolescent age group and maybe later give us a preschooler group

[bleak pulsar]

story time

[bleak pulsar]

i know it is thats what im saying the toddlers should have a stage to walk around on two legs...

[halcyon terrace]

I think i did a destination wedding in cayaha-drawback is you cant invite family and friends

[hasty ice]

interesting, i guess due to the delay the 5.6 mod updates-in-progress got removed

[sacred spindle]

Is building in Inzoi difficult? I’ll be very new builder too when I do try

[subtle mason]

Placing floors is a bit off for me

[rare cedar]

Keep asking for those in the brainstorm and i'll glady upvote them.
But IMHO if they give those to us it will be a future DLC after the official release.
I'd be fine either way but that's what I think

[bleak pulsar]

this is why ive not gone on vacation i dont want to upset the family dynamics

i dont want it to overwrite

moving from vacation spot to vacation spot

[sacred spindle]

I’m honestly happy to support this game if there will be DLCS

[rare cedar]

I know it's never happening, but I really wish you could marry as teenagers in InZOI (as long as the other is a teenager too)

[bleak pulsar]

tbh i think there is enough in the brainstorms 😄 from other people its alot to read and abit overwhelming

[rare cedar]

looks around... point herself, oh you mean me!?
I'll keep asking, never shutting up about that lol

[subtle mason]

I'm curious about survey result and how paid dlc gonna look like

[bleak pulsar]

i think the devs have their plates full i'm not gonna add to it 😄

[halcyon terrace]

I did see them ask about pets

[sacred spindle]

or maybe they could gift each other something, like promising to marry one day would be cute too

[rare cedar]

it can go 4 ways...
Crappy ones with little of value, or any size with stuff nobody but the weird youtuber influencer wants who does not even play InZoi to begin with
Little, very specific ones for cheap that adds one or 2 things only (like the new adolescent sizes, or maybe the preschoolers).
Medium sized with a couple of things... containing at least one thing most of us long time players have been waiting for.
Large and full of stuff at premium price (Cahaya)

[rare cedar]

I'd setting for getting engaged, since teens can own their own place

Very traditional, I would love that

[bleak pulsar]

i have afew teens in their own homes from the rich side of the family

[rare cedar]

Now we need to officially be engaged as teenagers.
No babies, but everything else, heh

[bleak pulsar]

the poor side of the family is all cramped

as 8 people family 😄

[halcyon terrace]

I was hoping for more with the festivals 🙁

[wheat lantern]

How do you do that? I know there's traveling but I've never used it. I thought through traveling, you're kinda "staying" in another city instead of doing an entire new save file if that makes snese.

[halcyon terrace]

But I guess this like the base of it

[halcyon wadi]

a family gameplay DLC??? i'm buying all of that

[halcyon terrace]

Well you kind of have to save the file there. You pretty much are living there for a bit 😄

[rare cedar]

Actually, gonna do that now in my game... roleplay getting engaged and move both teenagers into their own home... I still have my 30k mew I moved in this foster family I inserted myself into as a child, and mu sweetheart I will roleplay as broke. (well, 1k mew).

there's an autonomy bug right now where zois dotnt go to sleep or eat when they needs are low (as a result of lessening the routines) so the family I live in staying awake all night is annoying 😉

[wheat lantern]

Yeah, that's what I thought tbh. Like you are using same save file and your family is "moving" to another city and living there, etc. 🤣

I plan to play with that when my girl gets 5-star in her business which should be right when I launch the game.

[halcyon terrace]

Oh but you can’t own a business and travel yet 🙁

[wheat lantern]

I'll test it cause I thought I wasn't supposed to, but yet my zoi was able to choose/go through the prompt at the bus/airport. o_o

Don't quote me though

Also, idk how marriages work in-game. I know you plan them but are you given a chance to customize what outfits they wear before they walk down the aisle?

[rare cedar]

Okay wow, when I said my boyfriend was broke...
Look at their family card !
no money lol.

[halcyon terrace]

Well you can edit them in CAZ but they’re wedding outfit is their regular formal outfit 😄

[fair quarry]

I wonder what other holidays they’ll add

[bleak pulsar]

im the same with some of my poor families and there even in the red so thats nothing 💀

beg steal and borrow to get that debt off

[wheat lantern]

ty for letting me know so I can download cc before they get married. Lol

[bleak pulsar]

also i've got gay zois living seperate with their little families

everyones related 😄

by blood in my game except for partners

and i think i am outdoing the npcs 😄

i see my family more...

the medical thing still uses their dna though

so technically still blood

but no are inbred

no incest in my family 😄

i think i blurred the lines on the first play through of inzoi with incest before the family tree came out

thank god for family tree 😄

but distant relatives needs work.....

because you can have a zoi with a distant relative there just seen as friends💀

so i think family tree needs to branch out abit more

on distant relatives

[subtle mason]

There also a bug where zois married themselves

[bleak pulsar]

yeh ive not come across that bug yet thank god

i'll launch the pc out the window

if i had that bug 😄

id have to rollback... to earlier save

ive had zois divorce their partners though :/

and make babies on their own

busy bees 😄

[bleak pulsar]

did you have that bug 💀

[subtle mason]

But I have zois I don't remember consistently texting like they're best friends and some interaction increase romance I had to revert a save

[bleak pulsar]

ive had my zois cry over deaths of someone i didnt even know existed 😄

apparently they had these secret people i never knew about

who died

my zois are sneaky 😄

[subtle mason]

4 Roommates each have random zois in their contact texting, while it's realistic for them to have friends I just don't remember seeing those zois haha

[bleak pulsar]

yeh ive had the same thing ive had neighbours let themselves in

and been like wtf are you:D

and they sit down at the kitchen table and eat the food

2 and 3 of them 😄

i didnt even go to the door to greet them

hobos everywhere 😄

[bleak pulsar]

the burglar is too shy to rob my zois cause they are crazy

hes nowhere to be seen 😄

and im gonna be nowhere to be seen too now cause im off to bed 💤

[halcyon terrace]

Omg this will be the last child Ana has hahahah

[rare cedar]

I hope one of these 7 paintings I started pays off, or I'm going to have to humble myself back to foster dad... Oo;

Alright, looks I'm out of the danger zone.
Good... heh

[halcyon terrace]

Do you guys think a voluntary place of worship would be too controversial? lol

[wheat lantern]

Only to cats.

Similar to how Sims somehow worship a llama. 🤣

[halcyon terrace]

lol

[wheat lantern]

MAKE IT HAPPEN

[rare cedar]

we already have smething with cat, there's a cat temple in Cahaya I think

[wheat lantern]

LET US WORSHIP CATS AGAIN

[pliant charm]

i dont see how i mean all zoi's woship psycat

[halcyon terrace]

Yasss

[wheat lantern]

I will gladly bring souls. I mean offerings.

[halcyon terrace]

Yeah like I want a place that Zois can go to

Even the son is laughing lol

[brazen gyro]

Lifting weights is making my zois skinny af

Should be like the opposite

[rare cedar]

The skinny zoi has been an issue since 0.5.0

[restive wharf]

Has anybody been able to pass the level 2 of the Notorious Villain ambition? I’m unable to pass level 2 because I never get the option to knockdown a zoi. I need to do that 3 times. It has been broken since the October update last year. There already a bug report in the forum that has been ignored all those months. I tried yesterday in the hopes it was fixed but it wasn’t. Very disappointed at inzoi devs right now that they have ignored this bug for so many months.

[cunning cove]

@hasty jetty good news; someone from support desk finally reached out and lmk that they've escalated our launch issue. and someone else from my forum post is asking the others who commented (i alr had my specs/info on the post) to post their specs so they can determine any similarities ☺️

[brazen gyro]

I might turn it off and keep the muscle building one

[rare cedar]

yeah and I dunno but maybe you can add some fat on you if you want from CustomZOI [Zoi ID]

[restive wharf]

Last time I used that cheat it reset my zoi age to the beginning of the bar. Do,you know if that has been fixed?

[rare cedar]

I had no idea this was a thing... Be sure to save your game first, just in case.

[hasty ice]

Anyone's Zois getting unnaturally thin when left unplayed? Asking because I want to know if I still need my Balanced Weight mod.

If they added fixes to it, I'm gonna let my mod go

[halcyon wadi]

i had a thick Zoi and i swear he was losing weight

[hasty ice]

Dang. Okay I'm keeping the mod

I'm going to let go of Body Sliders Extended though because of vanilla's improvements, they are better than my mod

[halcyon terrace]

I like how Zois can look for employment and quit autonomously

[hasty ice]

they quit still ugh

[pliant charm]

just like real life

[hasty ice]

lol ig

[halcyon terrace]

Well a zoi quit my business

[pliant charm]

games coming along great😭

especially when smart zoi gets develped further

[halcyon terrace]

And Lara Croft joined firefighter career in Dowon

I enjoy smart zoi right now

[wheat lantern]

Does it happen randomly? I don't have smart zoi, swore I hired this one dude, he never showed up to work and then turned out apparently he wasn't hired???

[halcyon terrace]

lol and well it my case it happened twice randomly

But even without smart zoi they do things like that autonomously

[wheat lantern]

Oof. Guess I better hunt down that employee like an average Texan. We just get a lasso, wrangle up that zoi and hog tie em to work.

You ain't quitting my business.

ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAVE A HIGH SALARY FOR THEM

[halcyon terrace]

lol legit plus I want to be an equal opportunity employer

[wheat lantern]

This is me legit running my bakery as a CEO: https://youtu.be/WTNLOXG07XY

[halcyon terrace]

LOL!😂

[final echo]

Heyaa, any update for PS5 on Inzoi ☺️🫰🏽

[pliant charm]

TBA its still slated to come out this year keep checking #announcements and the weekly threads #1387652526156808283

[final echo]

Thanks 😁

[brazen gyro]

Where can I change my zoi’s body?

I want to add his fat back.. like his butt is now as flat as a table

[subtle mason]

https://playinzoi.com/en/guide/cheats customzoi but get their ID from showzoiinfo true cheat

[fair quarry]

You can also make them gain weight by eating one of the weight gain donuts

I had to do that after it made my characters face a rectangle

[brazen gyro]

girl like the dynamic weight is just ozempic

[hasty ice]

i hate it. its why i made Balanced Weight, the mod on CF

it helps quite a bit

[cunning sun]

so I was digging through inzoi game files, and found this

there are a lot of movies there

well, 20

[brazen gyro]

i dont have cf yet i just looked at it for the first time today

[hasty ice]

debating renaming my tipsy mod so i can put it on CF 😭

[cunning sun]

Juiced up 👌

[hasty ice]

Lol

I was thinking Mixed Drink Moods

[halcyon terrace]

Thats a good idea!

[hasty ice]

Or Mixed Drink Mood Effects

I just worry if I upload it it, I'll get banned. That won't happen will it

[hasty ice]

I'm ok if they reject it, but not if they ban me lol

[brazen gyro]

is this official or are there tools to make videos like this?

[subtle mason]

No idea but it shouldn't be that extreme?

[cunning sun]

Official

[hasty ice]

I feel like it shouldn't be either

Do I risk it 😭

[halcyon terrace]

Well you would also have to change the buff descriptions

[hasty ice]

yeah i was gonna..

[halcyon terrace]

Then they wouldn’t ban you and I don’t see a reason for rejections

[subtle mason]

Those videos should be in their TV

[cunning sun]

These are all the "hidden" onea

[subtle mason]

Replacing the slideshows

[cunning sun]

The rest are in game

[halcyon terrace]

But you would have to continuously violate to be banned

[hasty ice]

Yeah. I'm gonna attempt it maybe

💀

The mod itself is tame really

It only uses game resources, I can make the flavor text even tamer lol

and its already tame lol

[brazen gyro]

is iti nekonyami?

[hasty ice]

yes

😄

[halcyon terrace]

Good luck!

[cunning sun]

You know, it did get me thinking...

[subtle mason]

First polka mod gonna be TV videos replacement?

[cunning sun]

Cause the videos are inside inzoi game files. What if the game references from this folder? If so, wouldnt we be able to replace them with a video of a similar name 🤔

Cause the 4 new cinema movies are here too 👀

[subtle mason]

I wish I could replace things without mod enabler, but we can maybe edit data editor? or something to replace it

[halcyon terrace]

I feel like polkas tv mods would have all the tea

[cunning sun]

I'd definitely make a lot of movies, but im not tech savvy enough to mod it in 🥲

[halcyon terrace]

It broke on my end…or maybe just the sims music replacement mod

[cunning sun]

Im only in game files cause I was looking for something specific the team requested on the forums 🤣

[halcyon terrace]

Interesting why

[subtle mason]

My music replacement at first was fine... but I don't know what I did it doesn't stop til the song end now 😅 but the thing is zoi DJ will play another song on top before it ends, it's a mess

-# But very loud at the club

[cunning sun]

Cause there's a new bug where smartzoi crashes my game, and there are others too

[halcyon terrace]

Ahh nooo

[cunning sun]

Though, in my case, it infinitely freezes

[halcyon terrace]

Thats not fun

[cunning sun]

Yeah, so i sent over a report and theyre asking for extra files

[halcyon terrace]

Ah I see well hopefully they fix soon

Guess we’re due for another hotfix anyway

[subtle mason]

Is this the list that have .mp4 and path in?

[halcyon terrace]

Oh sweet! Maybe

[cunning sun]

Yup, thats the one

Though, the one in the game files, horror is spelled as horor 🤔

[subtle mason]

I don't see ones for TV...

[cunning sun]

Yeah, there are no tv ones here either 😅

[halcyon wadi]

i hope we get a preview of April update this Friday🙏

[cunning sun]

Im hoping for a may update preview, but i might be fat 😭

[primal crane]

and also add burglar break-ins on lots. what does this mean we already have burglars ?

[cunning sun]

I think he means the animations

OORRRR

Make our zois into burglars 👀

[serene osprey]

A thief simulator like burglar in the inzoi could be fun or something like GTA SA

Or haveing to pay taxes and or commenting taxe Fraud in the game

[cunning sun]

Eh, i think the bills in inzoi are more or less realistic. Especially if you get insurance. Your zoi makes like 300 a day and has to pay 90 every 2 days

Brutal and realistic 🤣

[serene osprey]

It should be more brutal like the insurance refuses to pay it

[humble marten]

hey guys. are there more venues in the worlds to visit now? haven't played since mid last year

[cunning sun]

The cinema just opened

Plus businesses

[humble marten]

yassss

[rare cedar]

Alright, the in-game boyfriend will reach young adult soon.
Since he is not an artist, he needs to get an actual job.
He is a Genius / Neat freak / Visionary and his highest skill by far is "Critical Thinking"
You guys choose, what job do I have him pick ?

This is Dowon btw, because location matters 😉

[frozen valve]

They need to add more traits

[rare cedar]

Absolutely

There where more before... They removed like 4 and twisted 2 into negative ones

It's not they cannot add some, @paper sparrow has a superb list of many of them that I would love to see in the game 🙂

[frozen valve]

Teen pregnancy in inzoi

I want that

[rare cedar]

Devs are very against it... Not politically correct enough, so we have to respect their choice.
Best hope is a mod for it in the future.

[amber herald]

It will probably be a mod in the future but it's too controversial to probably ever see it in game

[rare cedar]

Make sure you post your suggestions on the forum wish list or on the "InZOI needs"
When you feel your idea is good and not controversial, you can post it (politely) in the brainstorm

[amber herald]

I was a teen Mom and I can definitely see why devs wouldn't want to add it in the game, despite it being a reality ❤️

[rare cedar]

Unfortunate, but I understand their position.
That's why we can never play a child in MMORPGs either. I know why, but it limits scope.

[amber herald]

Oh yeah, I definitely understand their position one hundred percent

[rare cedar]

Umm no one had any idea for my boyfriend. Critical thinking... Maybe a lawyer ?

[amber herald]

I was actually looking up the careers in Dowon because I couldn't remember them off the top of my head, but lawyer fits!

[neat void]

Lawyer or maybe professor?

[rare cedar]

both interesting propositions 🙂

[amber herald]

I feel liike with being a genius and a visionary, professor might be a better fit

[rare cedar]

it's in a few days and he'll definitely graduate so perfect

[brazen gyro]

Does anyone have any good smartzoi prompts to make a couple fight? One zoi spent all their money to clear his debts and I wrote that partner two should’ve been mad but they’ve been fine

[rare cedar]

The trick for smart zoi is use easy words and as few of them as you can.
So I would put in both your couple the following : "keeps arguing with their partner for no reason".
Or: "likes to argue with their partner".

replace "partner" by wife/husband depending whom your writing this on.

[brazen gyro]

Okay I dumbed everything down a bit

They are both boyfriends but it doesn’t seem like that’s a romantic status in this game. I put sweetheart for the noun

[rare cedar]

Last time I used it I put "wants to have many babies with his wife/her husband"
Took about 3-4 days then they wouldn't stop, heh.

[frozen valve]

They need add more penthouse because when I’m trying to live in one it say family members is live in it like I can’t kick them out

[paper sparrow]

oh, I’m going to get upset again if they ignore bringing back proper Enneagram traits instead of rUlEbReAkEr TrOuBlEmAkEr

[hasty ice]

o-o

[paper sparrow]

this is not an action RPG with the predefined ultimate presets

[subtle mason]

Sounds unique...

[paper sparrow]

sounds Watch Dogs Legion 😁

[primal crane]

well that being said i would never have expected to see miscarriage in the game so who knows i keep an open mind plus culturally teen preg is looked on very different around the world even in the uk for example i remember it being not uncommon or looked down upon for 16 17 yrs to be mothers it was common where im from and thats the western world y'know so i dont think it would be a massive stretch tbh

[primal crane]

whats that ?

[cunning sun]

I found it inside the inzoi files

[primal crane]

omg CONSPIRACY!

[cunning sun]

I mean, its probbaly just unused video

[primal crane]

mabey its reincarnation ? hehe

[cunning sun]

If you scroll up, there are engagement and wedding cut scenes

Maybe actually 🤔

....you know....

I think imma ask kjun to bring back the wedding snd engagement cut scenes 👀

But better

Cause the ones before release were.... meh

But the ones I dug up were really nice

[primal crane]

yes @paper sparrow do you remember it was shown that we could create our own cut scenes in the very early days ?

[cunning sun]

Ooooh, I remember that too!!!

We need to beg for it on friday

Such a wonderful feature from sims 2

But a DIY one is even better

[primal crane]

i think thatll come with the offical release probs

[cunning sun]

Still doesn't hurt to beg 🤷🏼‍♀️

[primal crane]

alsong as we beg for deep personality system hehe

[cunning sun]

I mean, people already beg for it every week 🤣🤣

[primal crane]

the more the better cause he did give us some calrification from our begging lol

[cunning sun]

But imma ask on Friday, cause when I saw the cut scene feature before inzoi released, I was like 🤯

So we 100% need that

[solar drum]

Does Inzoi have multiplayer yet.
When I look online it mentions match 2026 is adding multiplayer features.. it's now April..

[hasty ice]

not yet

[solar drum]

Is there an official expected date?

[hasty ice]

no

[solar drum]

Blah 😨

[hasty ice]

at least not that im aware of

[solar drum]

I wanted to know because my sister is waiting for multiplayer support before purchasing Inzoi

Also what is canvas town?
Is that like.. a custom neighborhood type of thing?

[hasty ice]

yes

[solar drum]

Ooooh

[primal crane]

dont get why they gonna release 40 lot canvas then a 50 lot give us them both together lol i just want canvas town cause citites are a bit much for me haha

[subtle mason]

Might be to see feedback on one to improve on another?

[peak sable]

Hii!! Is it a bug or do inzoi really dont have same gender romantic interactions

[hasty ice]

they do have them

you have to change their preferences in CAZ

[peak sable]

Mhm thats weird, i created two female characters who are each other’s spouses but i dont see any romantic interactions between them.

[hasty ice]

probably because they need a higher relationship

its weird i know

the game resets the relationships upon marriage

even if you make them in CAZ they start at 0

[peak sable]

Ohhhh okie gotcha!! I figured it out, thank you so much!!!

[hasty ice]

....since the engine update is delayed im gonna reinstall the engine tweaks 0.0

Dang, it already compiled the shaders

did not take nearly as long as in 0.6.0

[primal crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMKVoGXMNSY agree with alot and disagree with a lot lol

[halcyon wadi]

Im going to start begging for Kjun to reverse the trait system changes. I know it's a long shot but the previous one was unique enough and I dont like the Characteristics. Its too similar to Sims 4 and im afraid we'll get Characteristic bloat

UNLESS they make characteristics a thing that can evolves or changes through a Zoi's life... then maybe they can stay

[hasty ice]

i dont see the problem with them

[halcyon wadi]

He so clickbaity

[bleak pulsar]

Morning all

[hasty ice]

hullo

[halcyon wadi]

I guess I liked how it felt unique before, now it just feels like Sims 4...

[bleak pulsar]

I don't see problem too don't think it's as bad as sims

[hasty ice]

how did it feel unique? i felt like it did nothing before

[paper sparrow]

no, all cutscenes were prerecorded

/ Video folder if I’m not mistaken

[halcyon wadi]

The system in general, I agree in practice it wasn't great. The current one isnt either tho. Zois still behave rather similar

[hasty ice]

true 🤔

[bleak pulsar]

That's the way I felt

It needs work with the clipping and zois walking through each other and through walls and objects more then anything

And sitting on invisible seats

And eating from plates not there on the table still

When the real food is next to them doing that 😔

[primal crane]

no there was an interview he did were you could make your own cutscenes honeslty this was ages ago

[bleak pulsar]

Plenty of bugs

The animations for the zois is the least of my worries

How animated or not they are

I had issues with the babies last patch but this one fixed it all for me no more baby feeds to the forehead

[primal crane]

not a fan of satch? haha i think hes kinda baiting for views tbh

[bleak pulsar]

He is

[hasty ice]

barely know who he is

but annoyed that it says 'inzoi still sucks'

[primal crane]

yeh agreed with a good few things he said in that vid that ive thought personally but disagreed with alot aswell

omg stop cooking! jesus

[bleak pulsar]

My zois in a nutshell

Every house hold even the ones in the red debt

🤔

Cooking and baking overload when theres lots of food already out

[hasty ice]

unless curvette made em do it lol

[bleak pulsar]

That's how mine looks without making them do it

[hasty ice]

o-o

[primal crane]

i didnt i just loaded in this them after not playing them for a while and got this lol

[bleak pulsar]

I can believe that 😔

[primal crane]

also they are all losing wieght when they should be fat AF after all that jeeez

[bleak pulsar]

They all want to be top chef

[hasty ice]

get my mod balanced weight

its more balanced

[bleak pulsar]

I wish that was me 😂

I just gain it by looking at food

There's no world in which I look starving 😂

[hasty ice]

rupert

lol idk
i wish i was playing him but im on another household

[bleak pulsar]

Enjoy that speaking of food I'm gonna go get me some breakfast

[hasty ice]

lol

[primal crane]

i just really want another world soon with different atmospehere

[paper sparrow]

dude had many moments of dreaming

[paper sparrow]

I’m tired of fighting windmills like Don Quixote. Kjun just straight‑up copy‑pasted the default Sims 4 traits set, I compared them recently

[primal crane]

he did plan to make it so we could make our own hes said that wish i could find it

[paper sparrow]

if ppl are fine with copycat, then good for them, poor 9B company is forced to copy

[primal crane]

yes we really need to apply pressure to get this personality system sorted the traits are very superficial and surface level they really dont add much to the game right now

plus i just think increase the age rating it will free them up so much

[paper sparrow]

because they should’ve created underlying traits or skills beneath those 18 traits, that would’ve been a system similar to Sims 2, but instead of zodiac signs they’d have Enneagram wings + quirks+ values + lifestyles

materialistic, rulebreaker, recluse could’ve easily been made into lifestyles, but right now they’re purely decorative

[hasty ice]

i mean a good example of this is my romantic charmer rejected to give his phone number out

[primal crane]

and the thing is were getting schools soon but how surface level will that be ? just focus on the core mechanics first really hoping that we can eventually play the game and be engrossed enough with core mechanics that things like schools ect are just a side bonus but no they seem to be making those things the next big thing

[hasty ice]

shouldnt romantic charmers always want to? lol

[cunning sun]

My comments even made it into this video 💀💀

[primal crane]

what part ?

[cunning sun]

The one where he shows off kjun's video when he shows off the discord comments 🤣🤣

[paper sparrow]

that would’ve been cool instead of a guide, you could optionally pick a lifestyle card and then just go wild with whatever mess you want

[cunning sun]

The one that made it was the one about wall moldings

But while I do agree that inzoi needs some work on the personality system and the job progression (and more content for kids), it's otherwise in a good state

[primal crane]

its just nuts to me in april we are getting pensions ect but not improvements on personality the thing with inzoi right now is that in some sense it does have complex aspects to it however the shallow personality system just doesnt match up to the rest of inzoi really making it feel shallow and hollow and it just sticks out brazenly i find myself like i was with sims 4 boot up the game then get bored in 5 mins really ;/

[cunning sun]

Tbf, all they hear is "inzoi personalities feel shallow" but they dont hear "here's how to make the personalities more unique"

[hasty ice]

i hate to admit this but i get what you mean. its easier to get bored

[cunning sun]

They can do more with the latter than the former

[hasty ice]

i know how i would do it

set conditions for certain outcomes/interactions

Does Zoi have a charmer lifestyle? They never reject flirts. ETC.

it could be done with a complex mod even lol

[paper sparrow]

So how did a big company and dude with MMORPG background get stuck on a task like this? They mastered the engine, the system optimization, but couldn’t handle the UX

[cunning sun]

....maybe i should research into mbti and try to come up with a good non shallow personality. Though, it's probably easier said than done tbh 💀

[primal crane]

they are defo more reactive to each other in a sense but they all feel the same in there personality really and theres no sense of progression or challange i know they are improving upon values aswell in future which ties in with personlity and that with trauma coming so we will see but the point is all this stuff should have been down and implemented AGES ago

[paper sparrow]

they kinda need to be real pro to handle life simulation on Unreal Engine

[cunning sun]

Honestly, im not entirely sure what values in inzoi even do

Like, influence autonomy?

[hasty ice]

Same. Do they do anything?

[cunning sun]

If so, what are the "traits" for then?

[hasty ice]

I think they might unlock like, one talk interaction

which....really

[primal crane]

i thought it was liek the more you increase one area like love for example they more they atuonomously see out those interactions ect?

[hasty ice]

I wish

[paper sparrow]

in v0.1–0.2 they unlocked bonus interactions

[cunning sun]

Then what about the personality types then? What do they do?

[primal crane]

i dont know lol thats the thing

[cunning sun]

Cause so far, all my zoi personality types have the same exact interactions

Wait, maybe thats the problem

[hasty ice]

man i agree. you all have valid points

and it is

[cunning sun]

That they all have the same interactions 🤔

[hasty ice]

yes

that is the problem

hence why i said here

[cunning sun]

...so wouldnt it be fixable by renaming them per personality? 🤔

[hasty ice]

here

That would solve a lot I think

[primal crane]

and the thing is on the road map when they bring in more in traits they said they will be adding a faithful/unfaithful traits those shouldnt be traits those should be values that you develop over time

[hasty ice]

trait/lifestyle/value EXCLUSIVE behavior

certain traits let you do things but only if you have those traits etc

because i agree every zoi feels the same

[paper sparrow]

because the chat generated those traits for him, and he just copied them

too many people cooking the same soup

[hasty ice]

ugh soup lmao

[cunning sun]

Will try to come up with something concrete next week and present it to kjun 👍

[primal crane]

id liek to see traits,talents,weaknesses,postives aspects and vices

id just really rather they leave this school thing for now and get down to buisness on personality

[cunning sun]

Yeah, in an ideal game, that's what I'd do too to be honest

Well, I want the school 💀

[paper sparrow]

We’ve been bringing him specifics for six months, and still nothing

[hasty ice]

maybe the specifics are too wall of text-y idk

[primal crane]

i know but personality just seems wayyyy more important than school or bubble censors in a bath to me atm

[cunning sun]

Personality also requires a LOT of work

[paper sparrow]

they wanted to cover values in the roadmap too, but where’s the actual progress

[primal crane]

if we all just keep hammering home to him our dismay at the perosnality then hopefully he will get it that or they are working on it intensivley in secret? but they need to be showing us stuff not popcorn machines

[hasty ice]

have they maybe not gotten there yet?

[cunning sun]

Tbf, we're still 8 months away from the deadline. It might be being worked on behind the scenes

[hasty ice]

what deadline

[primal crane]

thats coming this Q or next i think but these things shouldve been done earlier

[cunning sun]

The 2026 roadmap deadline 🤣

[hasty ice]

oh lmao

i mean tbf stuff can be pushed back

though personality shouldnt be

i almost wonder if things are being put in the wrong priority lol

[cunning sun]

I mean, he did summarize everything last Friday into a single paragraph, so its more likely that its the new gameplay mechanics that are coming

And not the whole update

[primal crane]

i know i just get tired of wow a new popcorn machine or wow a bikes ......ok personality the most important aspect? please lol

[cunning sun]

It'll also take the most work

[hasty ice]

yeah 🥴

[primal crane]

its kinda like the sims 4 lot that go crazy over a new kitchen counter im like ok gameplay ? lol

[cunning sun]

If they bring a whome personality overhaul at once, the bugs will be insane

[hasty ice]

(if there will be one...)

[primal crane]

well they should be thinking about that not us lol there the one making the game were just the player/customers lol

[hasty ice]

💀

[cunning sun]

Life simulators are also the hardest genre to develop, dont forget

Theres a reason the sims held a monopoly and 2 AAA got cancelled

[hasty ice]

sims 2 is hard to beat.

imo its the king of life sims maybe forever

[primal crane]

thats my point tho the sims 2 can have amazing autonomy and personlity for its time then why not now ? haha

[cunning sun]

Eh, personaly the sims 2 is alright for me

I like 3 more

[woven quartz]

too

[hasty ice]

2

😂

[primal crane]

2

[woven quartz]

but I'm also just from a different generation

[hasty ice]

i played all 4

[cunning sun]

Same

[hasty ice]

i liked 3 but it LAGGED

[primal crane]

i like 3 but thats where i felt they started to pander to kids more

[cunning sun]

I was able to overlook it cause of the open world spawn points

[hasty ice]

middle of 3 (katy perry stuff pack) imo was the beginning of things...

[cunning sun]

Thats one aspect I miss

[hasty ice]

i always joke to myself that collabs are when things happen...shark jumping things lol

[cunning sun]

Where you could spend hours running around the world to comlete collections

[hasty ice]

idk if that joke i make is accurate but

sometimes it feels that way lol

[cunning sun]

In inzoi and the sims 4, you badically know where to go and just gotta get lucky

[primal crane]

i mean inzoi for me does beat sims 4 in all aspects bar the personality

[hasty ice]

same

[cunning sun]

In the sims 3, there werent any set spawn points so you had to look around

[subtle mason]

2 Have some nice detailed stuff, there's videos comparing them I think

[cunning sun]

I definitely agree, but I do wish inzoi had a better collection system

[primal crane]

see things like that for me are things that should be delt with laslty after the core mechanics ect

[cunning sun]

Yeah, but sims opening drawers to cook or sims moving while a child is jumping on the bed isnt gameplay for me

[paper sparrow]

Let’s talk about inZOI, please 🙏 do we have a plan for Friday for what we want to propose for the personality system? something that would get a lot of people to sign on

[hasty ice]

I do

[cunning sun]

Im bot talking about how many collection there are but the way that things are being collected

[hasty ice]

Make certain interactions/behavior conditional based on traits/values/lifestyles

[cunning sun]

No, ill need at least a week for a concrete plan

[primal crane]

my plan is just keep hammering home our dismay at the personality system and just keep doing it lol its always seemd to work for me but i think we really need to get kjun to show us the personlity system

[woven quartz]

Is this what these stones are and all that?

[hasty ice]

this is all i have

[primal crane]

plus if we post on the forum and on reddit even other places

[paper sparrow]

the same folks over and over in the inZOI chat speaking about which Sims they prefer

[halcyon wadi]

revert back to the original personality and figure out how to make it work lol.

[primal crane]

but make it very clear to kjun we need answers and for him to show us stuff give CONCRETE info and just let him know that the personality is truly the worst aspect of this game right now and dont sugar coat it basically

[paper sparrow]

I posted this back in October, and I got a heavy backlash for it

[woven quartz]

He has already proposed various concepts and everything is quite coherent there.

[cunning sun]

Yes, and it isnt fun. All you gotta do is go to the park and dig with special tools for a random rng. A better system wouod be that there are collection points that spawn all around the city as opposed to being limited to the park. Of course, it'd be jarring to see a rock pile in downtown bliss bay, so they could look like cement block or trash cans

[hasty ice]

i dont think reverting it would be a great idea tbh

[halcyon wadi]

Its giving Simzoi

[hasty ice]

i think what exists just needs more depth

[paper sparrow]

or inSims?

[primal crane]

we need to stop sugar coating aswell tbh its not mean or anything its just us being direct ensuring there is no confusion in communication

[woven quartz]

I'm closer to this option

[halcyon wadi]

I seen it on the forums. I really liked it. Dunno why the developers didnt jump on that MAYBE they have a vision

[halcyon wadi]

Im just scared of the characteristics getting bloated.

Adding characteristics like faithful/unfaithful. YUCK lol

[hasty ice]

When I think about the modded trait system I have in sims 2 that I love, it all makes sense. all that has to be done is restrict certain interactions/behavior to certain traits

[halcyon wadi]

Reminds me when Sims 4 added Jealousy as trait... like really

[cunning sun]

Yeah, thats a no for me too

[hasty ice]

agreed

it should not be a trait but in the VALUES

somehow 🤔

[woven quartz]

Well, it's a good idea, by the way, to put it under a pile of metal, dumps all over the city

[primal crane]

or we write a massive post with all our views post it EVERYWHERE and get people to bump it

[cunning sun]

True 🤔

[paper sparrow]

alright , whatever, just not this current mess. tbh, I never thought that with all those concept systems, psychological models, values, lifestyles, they’d just betray all their own legacy for the sake of copy‑paste

[primal crane]

thats the thing even when i wasnt paying attention to inzoi a few months ago i would see your posts everywhere and it seemd like the majority agreed

[paper sparrow]

when you’ve been following the game since GStar 2023 and were blown away by how new and unique everything looked, the current situation just leaves you confused and honestly grieving

[hasty ice]

I posted a smol thing in the anniversary brainstorm

[paper sparrow]

simmers have it easy, replace the plumbob with a cat’s eye and they’re satisfied, but what are the witnesses of the new era supposed to do now?

[primal crane]

the thing is your mabey being a little bit defeatist maybey when you posted back then it was way to early but now seems like the prime time to strike and post and get results cause we have been getting results recenlty little by little inzoi dont want to be this long into development and have a lot of thier players suddenly complains about the abysmal personality system we need to make it clear to kjun he has to shift his focus right now

[halcyon wadi]

I always thought it was the emotion system that stunted personalities. Like, they relied on the emotions to show us what they were feeling instead of the game showing us. I always thought that's why Sims2/3 Sims were so unique. It didnt have an emotion system, but I dont think that's the issue now

[hasty ice]

This actually makes sense.

Emotion system was first introduced in Sims 4 so

[primal crane]

also you have way more people agreeing with you now than back then cause what you said would happen is starting to happen and nows the time to strike really

[hasty ice]

it may very well connect to the problem lol

[hasty ice]

whats starting to happen though

[primal crane]

the personality system being crap and shallow when it supposed to be the most important aspect of the game

[woven quartz]

We all agree, but we all have different visions of how to do it

[hasty ice]

oh 😔

[primal crane]

cause for a game liek inzoi we really do expect ALOT more

[halcyon wadi]

I wish I could tell Kjun, to his face, exactly what he needs to do lol

[cunning sun]

Actually....

What of zois with different personalities experienced the same events differently? 🤔

[hasty ice]

I like this.

[primal crane]

aslong as we get the very basics down the rest can be sorted alter we just need to focus on basics and not have a shahllow hollow personlity system which we all agree it is

[paper sparrow]

ofc, when you genuinely care about the game and then get accused of trying to save it uniqueness and of somehow blocking it from becoming generic… I mean, it’s really not something I’m used to, having to justify trying to preserve the game’s originality

[cunning sun]

So for example, if a charmer zoi had a negative conversation, they'll get a sad moodlet like "i wanted them to like me, but I guess they werent feeling it" while a troublemaker will get a happy moddlet like "ha! Successfuly ragebaited!"

[hasty ice]

Yes, I like that. It goes along with my idea I posted in brainstorm

[primal crane]

well the thing is you need to get over that and just keep posting lol cause it works and now the time to strike later might be to late lol you got lots of people who support and gree with you prob the majority they have listened to the cozy gamers far to much if we just all put a missive pst together post it everywhere thats somthing and not sugar coat it lol cause they will not want players all of a sudden complaining lol

[paper sparrow]

I’m saying that the ppl who were digging for the very first leaks about the game and the ones who are just switching over from the Sims have completely different perspectives

[halcyon wadi]

I feel like the game already does that?? My problem is it's telling me what they're feeling... but i dont see them feeling that way

[primal crane]

Being clear for me perosnally i want a FAR more adult and far more complex and deep game

[hasty ice]

play rimworld /hj

[cunning sun]

Its because your zois arent feeling it enough. My zois are cureenly desolate since they just got a divorce so theyre randomly crying, yell at eachother whenever they see one another and cant be in the same room 😅

[halcyon wadi]

This is true. And they have a lot of things they want from that game in this one

Kjun DID say in Wednesdays post he thinks they've made a "breakthrough" for zoi personality and it's coming in April update

[hasty ice]

👀

[cunning sun]

He did? 👀

[halcyon wadi]

Yes, let me see if I can find it

[woven quartz]

Yea

[cunning sun]

Ill still try suggesting the traits tied to emotional reactions though 😅

[primal crane]

you need to ingnore that cause those players who want it like sims are really a minority (just look at the top mods lol )even if we could apply pressure just to get kjun to dedicate a whole update on the personality system that would be a major step forward

[primal crane]

we need to put together a massive post and post it everywhere

[halcyon wadi]

"There were also many requests to strengthen both NPC and player character autonomy, and to improve the naturalness of emotional expression and social interaction. We plan to focus heavily on this in April. This time, I think we may have finally found a way forward, so I really hope the results will feel much better. Once the system is more organized, we will also try to share it with you in advance"

Thats what he says...

I guess it was more about autonomy but still

[cunning sun]

Hmm 🤔

[hasty ice]

iirc i did vote in the survey that personality system was one of the weakest

[cunning sun]

I guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks for that then

[halcyon wadi]

Same

[hasty ice]

so thats also a thing people can do

[cunning sun]

Honestly, I dont remember what i voted, but probbaly same

[hasty ice]

i dont remember either XD

but im pretty sure i did on that

[paper sparrow]

idk, I only started hating Sims esp 4 when they began taking root in inZOI, before that, at worst I was indifferent

[cunning sun]

I was more focused on the new features part where I voted other: all of the above and attached a paragraph about how each feature could look like in the game 🤣

[hasty ice]

i dont hate sims but 4 is lame 😛

[primal crane]

honeslty the sims is irrelevant people only really compare cause its all they have to go off even if we can just see a fully fleshed out deep personality that isnt implemented atleast we know its there we need to get kjun to show us

[primal crane]

i F**** HATE IT lol

[cunning sun]

Yeah, sims 4 feels like the watermelon jolly ranchers. Its the worst flavor and theres too many of them in a variety pack

[paper sparrow]

and now we’re stuffing this lame thing into a wonderful game

[halcyon wadi]

Paralives is going to drop with the most indepth personality system simply bc it's simple. Watch

[woven quartz]

This is the most unusual comparison I've ever seen

[hasty ice]

ugh. im not going to para. too ugly. what a shame.

[cunning sun]

And yet it makes sense if youve ever had em 🤣

[halcyon wadi]

That system reminds me of Sims 2

[cunning sun]

I once got a variety pack of like 5 flavors and HALF were watermelon flavoured 💀

[hasty ice]

i cant be forced to give a damn about para due to it looking like an uglier sims 4

its a tragedy

[paper sparrow]

an indie studio managed to do it because they often dare to make things like DnD Disco Elysium and so on, the author there is a pro game designer

[primal crane]

but see when you focus on that to much instead of hammering home to kjun then nothings gonna change lol its in ea for a reason and this discord is here for a reason as kjun WANTS our views i see plently of ppl saying to kjun they hate the personality system lol

[cunning sun]

Yeah, the paras really arent for me

[hasty ice]

maybe ehh kjun will look at paralives' systems if they happen to be good

[woven quartz]

And here we are again back to the Sims and Paralives 😁

[paper sparrow]

Ah sh_t here we go again

[cunning sun]

Yeah, remmeber that we still dont know anything about the paralives personality system. Only because something looks good on paper doesnt mean it'll be good in practice

[halcyon wadi]

The good and bad thing about Inzoi is that it's in EA and it can suffer major gameplay changes

[cunning sun]

But if we talking about the most in depth personality, it'd have to be life by you

[hasty ice]

also ugly...

lol

[cunning sun]

They definitely had the best system ive seen

Yes, but the systems behind everything were very good

[hasty ice]

its less ugly than para at least

🪦

[woven quartz]

There were a lot of cool things and an interesting shopping system

[primal crane]

you have pull use it lol

[halcyon wadi]

There's a chance we can get Kjun to take a look at them personalities again. A system overhaul

[hasty ice]

if nothing else...script mods.. 😩

[woven quartz]

I talked to those who managed to play, it was fun at the very least

[primal crane]

yes thats why we need to be vocal to kjun in brainstorm and direct

[hasty ice]

played lby?

[woven quartz]

yea

[halcyon wadi]

If we all post the same post about personality Friday the dumb AI summarizer will have to pick up what we putting down!

[hasty ice]

dang

i think that is another problem right there

[paper sparrow]

now we’re discussing three games at once lol. I also posted the LBY system in the brainstorms, and Para too, and Rim as well, but they’re all way too different

[cunning sun]

I bet 🥲

[woven quartz]

There were some optimization issues, some problems with the appearance, interface and colors
but it was fun

[paper sparrow]

we’ll send the strongest one to negotiate

[hasty ice]

that wont be me, im too tired lol

[cunning sun]

It's better to come to them with a concrete game plan as opposed to inspirations. I posted a step by step plan for a book publishing system and it made it onto the roadmap at least 😅

So i'll try to write up a game plan tomorrow so that I could propose it on friday

[paper sparrow]

I also posted one step by step, but ~3 months of being ignored is too much, esp considering that 90% of my suggestions usually get noticed and mb 70% even make it into the roadmap / FF

I thought it was less than that, but the Canvastown theme tool got in too

[primal crane]

yeh my decades idea got on to the survey

but that would be so cool @hasty ice go through the whole 20th century

[hasty ice]

it would

[paper sparrow]

but somehow some suggestion that got downvoted ends up in the response, lol

[hasty ice]

but when i see you and decades i just think of mama hick LOL

[primal crane]

so ? lol you just need to keep doing it if you dont then the chance of nothing changing is higher i get downvoted for certain things all the time but it still makes it into updates ect the cozy simmer are minority

[hasty ice]

ive been pushing for a feature everybody wants, and its yet to be added

its hinted to be eventually added but

(save all clothing categories to one zoi preset)

[primal crane]

i think we also need to get on kjuns case about age rating right now its not a case of worrying about what happened before its a case of just taking action and posting applying pressure

even give me somthing you dont feel comfortable posting and ill post it everywhere haha

[cunning sun]

Eh. Some people were spam downvoting people who took the whole bonking toddlers on the head positively, and personally im glad that feature made it in

Appearantly miscarriages also made it into inzoi with that last update, and I bet had kjun disclosed it from the start, there'd be a lot of spam downvoting there too

[woven quartz]

Is this what it is in the end??

[hasty ice]

pretty sure miscarriages is just 'failed to get pregnant' translated oddly

[cunning sun]

My zoi failed to get pregnant yesterday but there was nothing about a miscarriage

[hasty ice]

👀

really?

[cunning sun]

Yeah

[hasty ice]

🤔

[woven quartz]

I thought after that long discussion they didn't add it..

[cunning sun]

It just said "failed to get pregnant" or something screen as opposed to the pregnant screen

[paper sparrow]

Ah, ok, ok, I’ll think about it. I’m definitely going to repost something from Reddit, so get ready, pull the comments, because the upvotes on Reddit and the “statistics” some ppl trying to present here don’t match at all. I can see how the big world kind of ruins the picture of some people’s small cozy little world

[hasty ice]

was it the first time they had a pregnancy fail when it didnt show up

[cunning sun]

Yeah, it was their first time failing pregnancy

[hasty ice]

hmmmm

[primal crane]

and dont sugar coat it lol if you want em to post stuff or say anything ill do anything XD lol

[primal crane]

im glad they put it in i took it as a message to cozy gamers this aint it for you lol

what do you all think the average age group is that plays inzoi ?

[hasty ice]

30+

[primal crane]

same

[cunning sun]

20+

[hasty ice]

maybe 25+

[woven quartz]

20+

[cunning sun]

But honestly, id be happy if inzoi is 16+

Deals with mature topics, but not enough to turn it into gta with spicy woohoo

[primal crane]

i think they should just increase it lookign at the game as is it doesnt scream happy cozy safe time

[paper sparrow]

there really were people there who were, let’s say, a bit different from many of us, more sensitive, but I don’t see them here anymore

and on the forum

[primal crane]

its like when myself and other bring up more mature topis but nothing grpahic we do get dogpiled by people say "THIS ISNT THAT TYPE OF GAME" when in reality kjun jas said otherwise and even added things that say other wise but for some reason they are so desperate to beilve this should and will be cozy time and they thing for somereason we want to take somthing away from them ? ? i ignore them lol

[paper sparrow]

and GRAC 15+ -> GRAC 19+ as well?

or global / Korean versions?

[primal crane]

thats somthing to put forward a slider for how mature/dark we want our game to be

[woven quartz]

I think the beauty is that everyone can play the way they want. Take GTA, go rob, or go raise children and then rob to support the children, or just grow a garden. And who doesn't like the switch and sliders

[primal crane]

yeh we can have a mature darker game but still have happy family time aswell i never understood there issue

[cunning sun]

Personally, we probably dont need hd woohoo, gore and fantasy powders, so GRAC 15+

[cunning sun]

The age rating depends on the "mature" end of that slider, so it doesnt make sense

[primal crane]

just increase it so it isnt stuck in stupid sims territory the game has the opertunity to be the more adult and mature life sim and inzoi really need to play of off that

[paper sparrow]

there are still a few like that left, the chat is now leaning toward a more mainstream position. I regularly read the comments outside of Discord