RenoDX: Wuthering Waves

[frank heart]

nah

[stark topaz]

hope you get a Microsoft supprise with Win 11 breaking

[raven wedge]

Lilith ✝️

[frank heart]

day 1 user

0 breaking

[raven wedge]

3 year old OS

Windows 11 is way more stable than it was earlier.
Also you can probably tweak it's design to get something closer to Win10

[stark topaz]

I’m to lazy to reinstall windows

[frank heart]

upgrade it...

but i mean

whatever you want bro

its good to have someone stuck inthe past

so they can do dx11 shaders

[raven wedge]

Just run this 10mb assistant https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
It will do an inplace upgrade, I did it dozen of times and it never broke my install

[frank heart]

@tough ember #1383049193186136216 message

not sure if you can add this in

[autumn jetty]

oh wait you are still on win 10

that explains it lol

[frank heart]

in anticipation when the FG fix comes out

[tough ember]

i'll try, thanks for the reminder

[raven wedge]

Augusta breastplate or Iuno feet ?

https://tenor.com/view/agusta-wuwa-augusta-wuwa-tongue-augusta-tongue-gif-18275216606779066658

[misty brook]

What no renodx does to a mf

[stark topaz]

loool @raven wedge

[misty brook]

Chatgpt as source

[autumn jetty]

Augusta has anti gravity breast plates lol

[raven wedge]

Boobplate + bellybutton plate 🤤

[autumn jetty]

it was not added afaik

[stark topaz]

Damn

[autumn jetty]

win 10 does not support 12_2 natively

[frank heart]

trusting a hallucination

[raven wedge]

At the very least, get Win10 23h2, for security reasons
but yeah win11 bro, win10 is dead in 2months

[autumn jetty]

always ask AI for the source

always

[frank heart]

this is like those guys that refuse to upgrade from W7

[stark topaz]

Yeah i was thinking something was wrong, so they never intented to add DX12_2?

[raven wedge]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-12-ultimate-getting-started-guide/
"The complete set of DirectX 12 Ultimate features is be available in the next retail version of Windows 10, version 2004 (also called the Windows 10 May 2020 Update)."

A human source here

[frank heart]

yes the current set of DX12U at that time

[autumn jetty]

that complete set is 12_1

[frank heart]

DX12U today is not DX12U in 2020

[raven wedge]

Go back to win7, simpler times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxdn30G2LE8

[frank heart]

12_2 announced 5 months

after DX12 is available on W10 article

[raven wedge]

deserved for using win10

https://tenor.com/view/augusta-augusta-wuwa-augusta-wuthering-waves-wuthering-waves-jikan-stuff-gif-11457984049444010262

[misty brook]

Idk what's worse linux shills or people still clinging on w10

[frank heart]

hey

give linux shills a break

[tough ember]

@frank heart what bloom # do you use?

[frank heart]

u can prob leave default

i leave default for simplicity, if someone wants they can turn it down after

I might change it later on because they changed the bloom shader or something

Cause the bloom feels diff

But rn default ok

[raven wedge]

it felt way too strong for me
at least with renodx on 2.5
I used 75% iirc

[tough ember]

@frank heart are you seeing the lut builders in the devkit's snapshots?

because i've patched everything you've given me, and i believe you did give me everything, but the lut builder's history is only appearing now as an input texture. there's seemingly no shader that is building it... which seems to mean that it can't be replaced, either.

[umbral granite]

I was fully on cope that W11 will destroy my marriage and burn my pc

But I knew if I picked up an OLED, I'd need W11 doe HDR support

So far it's been alright

Like the 12VHIGHFAILURE connector

[umbral granite]

The ones still on W7

[raven wedge]

Will you "move" this thread to RenoDX server ?
@autumn jetty @tough ember

[tough ember]

i don't have any feelings either way about it

[raven wedge]

Could you please create a thread there and post the updates .addon64 files there too?

For development discussions do as you prefer sure 👍

[misty brook]

Is it still broken for 2.6 or 🤔

[raven wedge]

yes

[frank heart]

Its weird

Yesterday i was checking it

The lutvuilder wqs being auto dumped

But i cant find it in the snapshot

Like usually its right before the output shader

But the shader before output is not the lutbuilder being dumped

[tough ember]

that's what i'm finding too 💀

[frank heart]

Is it another lutbuilder before output

Or is it sth diff

[tough ember]

something different

[frank heart]

Crazy

I wonder if its conflicting with some of the old shaders

Maybe i'll try the game with just devkit

And see what it shows

[tough ember]

good idea

[peak geyser]

If this thread gets nuked by the mods in the coming hours/day. I'll see y'all on the new Discord.... I hope.

[tough ember]

i'm gonna post my next version here, but if we have a thread there eventually then yes, i will

[raven wedge]

I think one of the creator should make a thread there, instead of someone random
so you or ... spiwar or mpaul ?

[peak geyser]

I was considering doing it, but it didn't feel right.

[tough ember]

i don't mind anyone doing it, i personally prefer to not own things like that

@frank heart i think i actually just confirmed that they are being replaced, the devkit just appears to be doing something weird. i'm thinking there might just be a bug with what's pushed to the repo right now or something as well, because sliders like game/ui brightness are behaving correctly (i think), but very strangely.

[autumn jetty]

It's up to wuwano

[tough ember]

i'm fine with posting updates there, i'd just prefer to not create/manage the thread itself i guess

[autumn jetty]

ShortFuse wants the mod authors to create the forum entries

You don't have to manage it, the moderators will do that probably

[tough ember]

oh okay, i can do that then

• Patched DX12 shaders
• Added slider for new RenoDX highlight adjustment version
• Added preset buttons

Known issue:
The game has changed how it handles its LUT builders. They seem to no longer update on each frame, but either at some interval or in response to changes to their inputs. Sliders like game brightness, UI brightness, etc. are included in those inputs. This means that while the sliders function properly, they will behave a little strangely. For example, the UI brightness slider will appear to affect the game, but the game's brightness will then correct itself once the LUT builder is updated. Please tell me if there are any cases where they appear to actually function incorrectly even after the LUT builders reload.

[solar path]

You're the GOAT

[tough ember]

once i get feedback/fix any potential new issues, i'll make a thread and post the latest version there

[tough ember]

you're kind 🙇‍♂️

[solar path]

I try to be, but at this point, I don't even need to. 😂 You guys are just too damn efficient !

[echo jackal]

many thanks for the quick update 🙏

[solar path]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-youre-breathtaking-gif-14325694

[tough ember]

btw, as far as supporting transformer fg, i'll add that as soon as it's in the repo

[solar path]

Music to my ears😍

[supple prairie]

you guys are awesome ty for the update!

[subtle warren]

Thank you♥️ I want to report an issue about augusta ult, it clamps

[tough ember]

shoot yeah, i'm guessing spiwar didn't have her when he dumped. if he doesn't get her/dump her shader, i can within the next couple days probably

[peak geyser]

Character Trial?

[tough ember]

oh yeah lmao

i just pulled her anyway

[autumn jetty]

I don't knwo what to do tbh. I want to pull Iuno, but she is only really useful for Augusta atm. I rally hope that Galbrena is generating shield

I like Augusta too, but her kit is kinda too simple

very flashy tho

I'm going to wait for the 2.7 leaks before deciding lol

[echo jackal]

you could still play iuno main dps if you wanted to, don't let that stop you from enjoying characters you like

[autumn jetty]

We will see

Iuno + Ciaconna is a good pair, but I don't know how good Iuno is actually going to be

[echo jackal]

shes good for my eyes and thats all i need from her

[tough ember]

i love yinlin and poor calcharo is pathetic, so i need her to support a real resonator

[autumn jetty]

haha yea poor Yinlin

she is stuck in my Xiangli Yao team

[echo jackal]

grabbed yinlin on her rerun and never really used her

[autumn jetty]

which I barely use

[tough ember]

which part clamps btw? the cutscene part or the part where you have control and there's the ui overlaid?

[tough ember]

man i wish i had this dude, i know he's not the strongest but his effects are 👌

[cobalt thorn]

her cutscene seemed to be clamped on my end but im also being blinded by the sun through my window so 🤷‍♀️

[tough ember]

thanks! very possible you're correct

[cobalt thorn]

no no, thank You 🙏

[subtle warren]

The first cutscene where she pics up her sword

Only that

[tough ember]

cool, that lines up then

[autumn jetty]

And he was free!

[subtle warren]

she aura farming in every move

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-wuthering-waves-wuwa-finale-gif-1121490290567886716

[frank heart]

@languid dome did they pull a zzz and switched to lut update on scene change

[frank heart]

I open game and did shsder and went off

[tough ember]

thankfully not that bad, it's just an awkward/weird delay

[frank heart]

If u can dump then i dont have to

But ill send the shader from trial

In like a few hrs

Just got off an event

[fallen tiger]

does this one work with dx11?

[frank heart]

No

[frank heart]

You know what the shader with 86 at the end is?

The one that always comes before the output shader

[tough ember]

i do not, probably some kind of bloom builder or something

iirc

[frank heart]

kk just wondering

[raven wedge]

They broke RTGI 😔

In some areas where the sun is hidden like here, awful ghosting.
Also when you rotate camera fast, the lighting morph "from old to new"

[frank heart]

We discussed this earlier today

[languid dome]

This is kinda how later unreal engine games work by default

And while it is a pain for us

It's actually good practice

Rebuilding the lut every frame is just wasteful

[languid dome]

Because most of the time, nothing changed.

[frank heart]

I wish it actually came with perf improvements

Cause the game looks and performs wprse now

Kuso games

[languid dome]

I mean, ultimately speaking, building the LUT is like, less than 1ms

So it's kind of a micro optimization

But it can make sense if you want to build a complex lut, like actual real ACES.

[languid dome]

Well, what can you do lol.

I gotta give Paperfold some credit, they have yet so far to make IN run worse lol.

[frank heart]

Lol true

[languid dome]

They didn't do much to make the game look better on desktop/PS5 other than some reflection tweaks on Lumen

But hey at least the performance is the same

[frank heart]

If its caused by some new graphic option or more intensive area then fine

But the game just runs worse now with nothing new added on old areas

Made rt more ghosty even

🤣

[raven wedge]

I still feel like half the shaders are not precompiled ?
I clearly get traversal stutter once, every time I restart the game
after first traversal, I have a bit less stutters (but still some lol)

[languid dome]

Oh god is that still a problem? Lmao.

[raven wedge]

tbh it's slightly better than 2.4/2.5
I get 1% to like 40fps instead of 20fps, in ragunna (for first traversal)

but septimont still runs really bad, in general

[languid dome]

Can't say I envy them too much for still struggling with PSOs, being on UE4 does kinda cuck you out of some improvements.

[subtle warren]

The cromatic aberration slider does not take any effect, are you aware?

[raven wedge]

the new highlight doesn't do anything <50
Maybe that's "normal", idk

[naive delta]

Oh funny thing I've modified the client in much the same way but I did it for wuwa which it did not particularly work for and turned out to be pointless anyway as I soon after realized I can just play wuwa without anticheat. I've gotten ue4ss to almost work in Nikki but they specifically look for uuu 🤔

[tough ember]

It probably wouldn’t be too noticeable below 50, yeah

[tough ember]

I changed in the shaders where it really looks like CA is being applied, but it might be not actually applied in that way and could be some UE thing that they’re not actually using. I’ll look tomorrow though to see if I made a mistake

[raven wedge]

iirc, highlight 1 <50 would darken them
here with highlight 2, it literally does nothing

99% of users would want to brigthen highlight with >50 sure, but this behavior is weird

[tough ember]

I see, I didn’t implement highlights 2, I was just giving it as an option after SF added it. If feedback for this game specifically is bad then I’ll change the default to v1

[raven wedge]

I guess it's an issue from RenoDX itself then
Hightlight 2 add more contrast and looks better in some areas but worse in others...
I would love to have both ngl lol

Think how photoshop has: dark, shadows, highlights, bright

so highlight 2 would be "bright/white", and highlight 1 is highlight

[tough ember]

If you mean things that are bright going to white instead of maintaining their chromaticity, you might be thinking of blowout instead

[echo jackal]

there might be an issue with fade to white again, reno vs vanilla

[raven wedge]

hmm no, I just mean like photoshop/lightroom does it

more like low/high highlights, highlights and really high highlights lol

[frank heart]

alright

finally home

lets do this

[frank heart]

fade to white always had issue

I dont think this is fixable

fade to black also has the same issue

it doesn't go fully black with a a very bright highlight in the background

[frank heart]

whites are not really highlight

its just making it clip earlier

[raven wedge]

I mean like having highlight for 180-220, and high highlights for 221-255
well that's for sdr and it's probably not working like that behind the scene lol

Just implement a curve editor lol
but the hdr way

[frank heart]

not sure how feasible that is

on another note

@tough ember the presets were made for highlights 1 so probably might want to make it switch to highlights 1

I thought they changed something with the game before I switched back to highlights 1 lul

[raven wedge]

Yeah also SF [said](#1408098019726983282 message) highlight 2 is "kinda broken"

[frank heart]

yes

already said previously

so it's just a for fun thing now

[raven wedge]

you said it would look broken bc presets weren't made for it in mind
I'm saying it's broken technically

unless you mean in an earlier post, because I can't read thousands of messages like that obviously

[frank heart]

it works its just not the results he'd like

either way if you want to use it with an existing preset

and keep about the same highlight

just add +15-25 to one of the presets

to match with highlights 1

[raven wedge]

I had 60 highlight v1
80 highlight v2 looks similar in general

Though I would prefer something inbetween v1 and v2, in terms of stuff it affect

v2 affect not much stuff and I have to increase it a lot but then it adds weird sharp/thight "contrast"
while v1 affects a lot the overall image brightness
that's why I think having both would be cool, though it might get messy

[frank heart]

leaving both is fine

nothing wrong with that

v2 is better if you'd like a more filmic approach

and/or playing in dark room where you dont want the APL to be bright

[naive delta]

Good timing lol

Look into duet night abyss

They just removed gacha

[frank heart]

lol

yeah

good mention

[naive delta]

Imo it's better than wuwa, graphically not quite there

[frank heart]

it's like warframe but with anime tiddies

[naive delta]

But it's a damn good game

[frank heart]

its your wet dream @umbral granite

[naive delta]

Warframe players are the worst!

At least the ones who don't understand duet night abyss is in fact a different game

And that anime art style is enough to appeal to many people

[patent blade]

Do I need to change preset settings when using this new version, I’m still using Mpaul’s vanilla+ preset

[umbral granite]

You just sent me for no reason

I thought FG fix was posted

But sure, I saw it is getting released in Oct

I can't get back into Warframe, I think I've exhausted that game. So I am in the look out for a game that is similar to Warframe but different

TFD was ass in comparison

Oh wow

That's a play on words

Yes TFD has a lot of ass

But the gameplay is boring

[wintry salmon]

They actually nerfed the RTGI so bad it's not even funny

game doesnt run that much better

I'll tweak the .ini file see what I can do to mitigate this

[frank heart]

nothing really to be done

other scream at kuso games

and put in a ticket

[umbral granite]

This is a certificate 'we optimised the game by killing draw distance aggressively' moment in vidya

Except the perf gains are miniscule or non existent

So you just suffer with worse grafix

That or they did a whoopsie

[languid dome]

ACE does check for UUU but in a really lazy and shitty manner.
If you rename IGCSClient and the DLL to something else, it works lmao.

but i did notice that some WriteProccessMemory calls fail for some reason when running UUU

so some hooks fail to apply and UUU only half-works.

i did notice half of the camera functionality didn't work.

don't know why WriteProccessMemory fails sometimes, and i'm not very interested in figuring out why given that it can't find the signatures for the posing functions and that was the only part of UUU i gave a shit about lmao.

[stoic vortex]

there's no way around fsr frame gen flickering is there? i've tried searching but cant find much

[frank heart]

...?

Just use dlssG path

And override it to nukem fsr3fg

Fsr3fg never had issues with flickering

It just looks like crap

Optiscaler

Input
Nukem fsr3fg

Output
Nukem fsr3fg

In-game
Spoof an nvidia gpu via optiscaler to get dlssfg
Turn it on
???
Profit

[stoic vortex]

i was trying with optiscaler and it wouldnt detect anything or it would just fatal crash so I just tried with the ingame frame gen and got flickering out of it

will try that, thnaks

[stoic vortex]

oh so a fix is coming? that's good to know

oh

[umbral granite]

Bigger question

Why no dev tag?

Yep

You're sweating in the Reno gulag

Ahh

Haven't reached the requirements for prestige yet

Need to patch Reno for atleast 5 updates

[misty brook]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-gif-27042841

[stark topaz]

so i'm trying to do the shader dump spiwar told me to do for DX11, but what do i do about this ? :3 sorry besides the shade dump i do not know much about reno T^T

[naive delta]

Ah yes the game dev classic. I've seen multiple games explicitly ban reshade signed or otherwise ...by checking for dxgi...

[naive delta]

That's to be expected with ACE active. It doesn't really stop you entirely from using kernel functions but some stuff will randomly be guarded.

[naive delta]

They have a ton of custom plugins for animation and really anything character related so uuu wouldn't be able to do much. UEVR at least used to get me access to everything. I even had a weird dev console thing unlocked with commands for spawning or possessing NPCs, ran around as momo with Nikki's skeleton and shit. Since the multiplayer update they seem to have changed a lot of stuff though due to replication and all that and I noticed in the live gui view I don't see much stuff anymore, but I think I can just use a dumped sdk. Anyway I'm working on general UE support for my tools first but it's on my radar

I have completely working freecam, light spawning, and player teleportation in nikki tho

[stark topaz]

I’m trying to find thous shaders when they clamp, but either I’m blind or i’m looking in the wrong spot T^T, do you have any advice ?

Like how do i make clamping more noticeable when it happens?

.>

Oh that is happening

The same as you described, like moving in the game can clamp, the skills of the characters is the same, so i had to try to follow some list he did for some characters skills parts of it clamps, and i’m either blind or they are going really fast and i’m not used to see it

He did show me how it looks on his PC, and it was like the screen had for a fraction of a second a gray filter of some sorts

Now I’m like………I;m i blind or what XD

But yeah, the game brightness changes with the UI brightness slider

At least THAT one is there

T^T

So I;m not blind

Ok, so this is the part that i do not know, what are the common shaders, cuz when he show me how it’s done, it was for the Reno 2.5 patch, well one version of his OLEDER so he could show me through his game how it clamps, he didn’t mention anything else

That 2.5 reno as you said, had common shaders already patched XD so that’s way i now can’t see jack cuz i’m using your last version for DX11

He told me the ones named Original are the unpatched shader, that is like 871 of them with a snapshot of just standing

I will need to dump thous no ?

Oh ok now at least i have a target

Ooo

I got it

So start from the bottom and untill i get one to blacken the whole screen

How do i do the LUT dump ? He only show me the shader one

aaa

i see

so i turn that on ?

Ok nice, so do i need to go through every sub map of Rinacita? Like Ragunna City Averado Vault?

And i guess do the same for the other 3 and go around

I see, that makes it much easy

Good idea :3 thanks :3 now time to get to work XD

Em, where do LUT builders go ? I got the output shader when i dump it, but that is the only thing in this folder XD

Only dump

Oh wait

I;m dumb

I forgot to restart

Once i turn lut builder on no?

[frank heart]

lol

finding shaders when they clamp only work when you have a reference what it looks like when unclamped

if every shader changed

then right now everything is clampin

you can do the easy way

and send the basic output shader and the lutbuilders first

[stark topaz]

Yeah :3 i know now T^T

I;m doing that right now

[frank heart]

have you gotten any output shader?

no?

[stark topaz]

Yeah i;m starting with Rinnacita

[frank heart]

no

only do 1 right now

check the list I send you

the output shader in most areas is shared

rinascita, jinzhou, septimont in the city areas all use the same output shader

go to rinascita

[stark topaz]

Ok i got the one from Rinnacita city so i guess that is already taken care of

[frank heart]

have you sent it here?

[stark topaz]

I do not have the lut builders for some reason

There is only dump folder in the dev kit folder

[frank heart]

have you turned on

dump lut shaders

[stark topaz]

Ooo

[frank heart]

:icant:

[stark topaz]

It;s under a different name

[frank heart]

....

[stark topaz]

The folder for lut builder

It was not in the dev kit folder

[frank heart]

yes

[frank heart]

yes

take a picture of the folder contents

[stark topaz]

Renodx for lut and Renodx-dev for shaders

[frank heart]

take a picture of the folder contents

[frank heart]

the four in the lutbuilder folder

did you get them recently?

there should be 6

3 from the login screen alone

1 from loading into the overworld

[stark topaz]

i got them once i was in Ragunna city

[frank heart]

one in septimont's echo farming node

one when watching the cartethyia gacha and phrolova gacha

[frank heart]

okay so you have the first four*

get the remaining two lut builder (the other two bullet points)

send wino the 6 lutbuilders + the general output shader

after he patches, you can see what is being clamped

[stark topaz]

Ok

@frank heart do you know where is the septimont echo farming node ? Cuz i got the 4 from ragunna and the 5th from Login screen

Ah it’s called mornfell canyon

[frank heart]

cartethyia's echo farming node

go outside, go inside

the lutbuilder should generate itself

[stark topaz]

Ok

It;s not generating for some reason

Oh ok then moving on to the other lut builders

Thank god i borrow a account with Carthe and Phrolova XD

Well, i got 1 output Shader and 6 Lut Builders @frank heart that is all ?

Then ofc next after patch is to see what clamps

Yeah, i was expecting more, but he said only 1

And 6 lut builders

[meager token]

WorrySip

[subtle warren]

Bro, lmk are you sure u can restore in character motion blur?

[frank heart]

actually dx11 broke as many, he just needs to see the basic output shader patched

so he can see when certain moves are clamping

[frank heart]

I went hardcore and dumped all the shader even without it

https://tenor.com/view/evil-cat-floppy-herobrine-angry-cat-glowing-eyes-gif-13772161273485327421

[stark topaz]

Ok :3

@meager token you can have your acc back for now

@tough ember oh wait, will you do the patch now? Or later ? Cuz i;m borrowing this acc so i can do as many shaders as i can

[stark topaz]

Hey, don’t hurry XD i can always ask again for the ACC tomorrow and will do some shaders on my acc :3

[raven wedge]

thanks for your work!
Another reminder to publish it in RenoDX discord serv 😅

[patent blade]

Touching UI brightness seems to affect something else, should I keep this as default 203?

[peak geyser]

That does seem to be the common belief from what I have seen going around at least.

[solar path]

if you are using the updated version of the mod, this is probably an issue with frame gen. You need to downgade your version of dlssfg to 3.8.1 to avoid this issue while ClShortFuse is working on a solution for the transformer (dlss4) version of dlss frame generation.

[patent blade]

I didn’t use frame gen, never had this issue before.

[solar path]

Then are you sure you're using the mod updated for 2.6 ?

If you are, UI brightness should only affect UI and pre-rendered cutscenes. And maybe artwork for events, but really that's it. But if you're running a pre patch version of the mod, then yes. The slider is going to affect brightness everywhere.

[echo jackal]

known issue but it should still function properly, just set to your preferred UI brightness #1383049193186136216 message

[tough ember]

Going to once the DX11 changes are at least tentatively finished ☑️

Or maybe sooner

[tough ember]

The latest version of the mod will look like it does until it reloads the shader responsible, which for me takes like half a second.

[patent blade]

Same for me.

Also noticed something weird at the end of some cutscenes and main screen, like some flickering, I’m not sure how to explain that.

[autumn jetty]

Please try to be less passive-aggressive

[tough ember]

It’s just what it looks like, when it adjusts itself, it will properly be at where you set it.

[tough ember]

Haven’t had a chance to see this myself yet but I hope it’s not related as I’m not sure what, if any, control I would have over when they update their shaders.

[frank heart]

doesnt matter

keep it wherever you want

it will reload after a while

[echo jackal]

appreciate that they added a setting for this now

[autumn jetty]

there is an option to disable auto fade now too

[echo jackal]

more options good

interactive environment also affects the grass in septimont now too

[frank heart]

it's actually pretty useful

especially now you;re; not limited by the dynamic range of SDR

[echo jackal]

yeah exactly, hate it when some games overdo that setting and blows everything out or makes things too dim to simulate range

[frank heart]

i mean it's good to have it on for wuwa with HDR

it's really like real life for a lot of the scenes

without auto exposure this would probably too dark

the auto exposure is actually pretty nice

[echo jackal]

wuwa auto exposure was always pretty mild in it's implementation, needa play around with it some more and see

[raven wedge]

Lol how is this passive-aggressive bruh 😐

It was literally a reminder with 😅 , I can't do better

IDK if it's a RenoDX bug, but sometimes the sun flicker (especially when flying in the new zone) @tough ember
Flicker and gets invisible (beside the corona)

[autumn jetty]

the 5th reminder or something

[raven wedge]

Then that's being impatient but not passive-aggressive lol.
Anyway I didn't know he was waiting to do dx11 support before sharing it there (for some reason)

[peak geyser]

Think they just want it to be complete before wide distribution.

[autumn jetty]

why does it matter to you anyways?

[raven wedge]

The sooner I can quit this server the better it is

[autumn jetty]

oh I see

[devout iris]

are you new?

why do you have such strong opinions?

there's no need to.

[autumn jetty]

I mean why did you join if you only want the wuwa mod?

[peak geyser]

They might just not want to be in 2 servers for the same thing. Some people have a billion Discord channels.

[autumn jetty]

you can literally get the mod from github

[devout iris]

they had very strong opinions on the reno/shortfuse thing yesterday, clearly without having any context of what was going on 😄

nobody should be shilling or spilling hate on anybody else

and it's easy to fully believe one part if you are only exposed to one side of the story

but reality is nuanced

so all I'm asking is to be chill, and not hate anybody or any server, and if you don't to be here, just silently leave

there’s no need to spill hate over a community and projects we worked hard to build

[peak geyser]

Ah, I didn't know any of that. mb

[tough ember]

only reason being that i plan on sending a few updates in both places before eventually sending them only within the dedicated server, and i prefer to minimize the number of steps in my process. so i wanted to be done with active development. but i'll make a very minimal thread there now and send my dx11 update in both locations when i'm done with it.

[tough ember]

you don't use dlss 4 fg do you?

here's the new thread for when we want to migrate discussion there: https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1411110125732892807/1411110125732892807

[tough ember]

[Latest version](#1411110125732892807 message) @stark topaz

[raven wedge]

I just use dlss 4 SR, no framegen at all

[raven wedge]

it's outdated...

well now it's on renodx server
but the build on Github is from july, not 2.6 compatible

[cosmic hearth]

Friend, don't rush

Moreover, when opening the server, it is often the worst day
Because there will be many performance issues

[autumn jetty]

the repo is going to be updated when the mod for the 2.6 update is finished

[cosmic hearth]

Even if you have a great HDR experience
You may also encounter poor performance issues that make your experience unpleasant

I use AUTO HDR
In the 2.6 map, I encountered the problem of the sun flickering
This is strange.

[tough ember]

thanks, this at least lets me know that it's not the mod. i think they did something weird.

[autumn jetty]

2.6 is full of issues tbh

worse performance, weird RTGI issues

I reported the RTGI bug to Kuro, they said that they are working on it

[cosmic hearth]

I think the AUTO HDR mapping mechanism
Will not encounter any HDR issues
But I encountered
Kuro may have done a terrible job

[tough ember]

cool! i imagine they're going to have some updates and hopefully they don't break every shader again :p

[frank heart]

"We've removed rtgi due to issues reported avout ghosting."

[autumn jetty]

Nah they will fix it, they fixed the RT crashing issues too

I hope 😅

[fallen tiger]

do they not have people testing the patch before releasing it cause clearly they are able to fix the issue after a day

[peak geyser]

They were too busy staring at Iuno's feet the whole time, clearly.

[stark topaz]

thanks, today i will get everything else that clamps

[fallen tiger]

Too busy gooning

[inner path]

Have you tried RTX HDR? It looks pretty good on my end

[modest jewel]

rtx HDR is a last resort

I wouldn't wish my worst enemies to use it

[autumn jetty]

nah, you can use Pumbo/Lilium's auto hdr shader

[cosmic hearth]

I have used it, but it performs poorly on my monitor
The monitor is MiniLED, HDR1400
Using RTX HDR, the game screen appears gray and white, which is terrible

[modest jewel]

will take a look thanks

[tough ember]

Are you guys afraid of bans?

[autumn jetty]

what do you mean?

[umbral granite]

I am more afraid of SDR

[autumn jetty]

using reshade?

you have to cheat to get banned

using reshade is fine

and they are rarely banning "paying customers" either

[tough ember]

I meant for the people using non-RenoDX HDR solutions

[autumn jetty]

auto hdr?

[tough ember]

AutoHDR, RTX HDR, etc

[autumn jetty]

Both Windows AutoHDR and RTX HDR are 100% safe to use

[tough ember]

Right, but I was curious if their fear of bans was the reason to use non-injection solutions

[autumn jetty]

oh I see

[umbral granite]

People use non Reno because they don't even know it exists for most gsmes

And they think RTX HDR is good

It's le brighter after all

[autumn jetty]

reshade can get you banned in games, but this is not one of them

[tough ember]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nuke-apocalypse-meme-gif-9579985

[autumn jetty]

well I'm like 95% sure that they are not banning users for using ReShade or SK

[tough ember]

Right, I agree

I have no concerns or I wouldn’t have put all this time into the mod haha

[autumn jetty]

if you are a F2P player and and someone reports you with proof that you are using ReShade and SK especially that you are dumping shaders and stuff

then yea that can get you banned

[tough ember]

1984

How goofy

[autumn jetty]

but it's still highly unlikely

1984?

[tough ember]

Book about government overreach lmao

[autumn jetty]

ah lol

[umbral granite]

Me omw to report everyone here

Unless ofc, you slide me some cash to keep this hush hush

Not like I can't play the game, RTGI is broken

[tough ember]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-role-crit-role-cr-arsequeef-laura-bailey-gif-21016916

[dull flame]

no need to worry about that tbh

those games are fairly loose in terms of modding in generally

[tough ember]

yeah i'd hope if they are using non-injection instead of reno that they'd switch over

[autumn jetty]

@tough ember that Askeladd guy on the RenoDX server was banned from The HDR Den some time ago, akacucktsuki was their alt/fake account

I'm like 99,9% sure

[tough ember]

i'm not familiar with Askeladd, what was he banned for?

[autumn jetty]

for hate speech "mostly"

they were banned from SK too

from github

so yea it makes sense now

[tough ember]

oh... yeah.

i understand not wanting to monitor a discord for updates, but it's very helpful to start here, gather feedback/iterate, and then eventually push to github.

[autumn jetty]

yea ofc

[tough ember]

did they have an issue with SK?

[autumn jetty]

the app? I don't think so

they are just toxic

[tough ember]

i see. i was wondering if they had a reason to target SK specifically.

[autumn jetty]

I don't think so, they were just active on the SK discord

[tough ember]

ah i see i see

[tropic oyster]

they kept on saying stuff about lolis and playing it off as a joke

they caused arguments about it in the gacha forum

oh you're talking about the hdr den

[autumn jetty]

yea

[languid dome]

Oooh that's who that idiot was on SK a while ago.

I had long blocked his main account

[autumn jetty]

yup 😄

and now they are asking you to bring your ZZZ mod to the RenoDX server asap so they can have access to support

[languid dome]

Where?

[autumn jetty]

#1408098019726983282 message

[languid dome]

Oh right I don't get pings from blocked users

I forgot about that

[autumn jetty]

#1383049193186136216 message same guy

with a new alt account

[languid dome]

I had long blocked his main account for being a creep on the mobile-gaming/anime channel.
Also the absolute gall of asking me for support

[languid dome]

Yeah I'm familiar with his alt account

He poked fun at me with his alt on the Special K a few days ago

[autumn jetty]

I had no idea who he was a day ago, but I had a hunch that he is toxic as hell

[languid dome]

He got banned in record time on the Special K discord because he went gamer mode ™

[autumn jetty]

he is permabanned from here for being a bigot

[languid dome]

With his alt account

[autumn jetty]

what an idiot

[languid dome]

We were having a conversation about ADHD and he had a dumb take about it (something about TikTok giving children ADHD and imagine drugging yourself over something made up)
We all called him a bad troll and he started posting transphobic shit for some reason and called people the n-word lmao.

And then he got banned.

[autumn jetty]

He is going to be banned from the RenoDX server soon too I hope

he really wants to be on that server

[languid dome]

Debating talking to shortfuse about it lmao

[autumn jetty]

Do it! 😄

[tropic oyster]

he doesn't know

[autumn jetty]

who? and what?

[tropic oyster]

maple gave up on updating the zzz mod

[autumn jetty]

ahh

I didn't know that either haha

[languid dome]

I didn't give up on it

it still works

[tropic oyster]

oh

[languid dome]

it has some minor bugs that i never got around to fixing it

but it still works

[tropic oyster]

I thought the new update killed it

[languid dome]

nah

it shouldn't have killed it?

[dull flame]

no

still works

i am playing zzz rn

[tropic oyster]

I didn't know you play zzz polly

[dull flame]

but i think the skills from alice is capped to sdr

[languid dome]

yeah some character ults are clamped

this is quite annoying for me to fix

because i don't have those characters lmao

[dull flame]

i dont either

[languid dome]

and unless someone wants to fund me rolling on every character

[dull flame]

well you can play those in main story

[languid dome]

well yes but you can only do it once

i could fix a character for a patch

if it breaks with a future patch, what next?

[dull flame]

there are some events that allow you to play them

[languid dome]

i suppose so yeah

but fixing characters on the pratice room thing is much easier

because 1) nothing will kill me and 2) i can spam ults

[dull flame]

ya

all new characters have free trial when they come out

[languid dome]

yeah that's how i (tried) to fix yixuan

but sadly that only works when characters release

if an update breaks the mod

[dull flame]

yixuan is free to use now

[languid dome]

god help us LMAO

[dull flame]

for one of the modes

[languid dome]

that's cool

the issue with her isn't shaders tho

i have no clue why one of her ults is fucked

because the shaders are correct

[dull flame]

in hollow zero

[languid dome]

a resource is probably not getting upgraded to RGBA16

zzz is such a pain

[dull flame]

wait alice is in that mode as well

[languid dome]

because i can't inject renderdoc or other debug tools lmao

[dull flame]

theres a boss fight mode i dont remember what its called but its in hollow zero

[tropic oyster]

I feel like lobotomy knows a way

[dull flame]

does this game do a lot of custom stuff

[languid dome]

there is a chinese fork of rdc that uses a kernel driver that can inject into shit

but it looked too sketchy

i don't want to run it LOL

[languid dome]

a little bit

the game just has 10000000 uberpost variants

but for some reason they changed the uberpost to clamp at the end

(vanilla unity doesn't do that)

so even though we modified the lutbuilder

i still need to patch uberposts or else everything is still clamped

[dull flame]

is star rail similar

[languid dome]

Star Rail looks nothing like ZZZ

star rail also doesn't do the uberpost clamp thing

so i don't have to patch 20 different shaders

Star Rail is also unironically more custom

the lutbuilder on that game looks nothing like other unity games

[dull flame]

thats surprising

[misty brook]

hmm

[peak geyser]

"This is fine"

[misty brook]

Dunno what causes it

[tough ember]

i do not see this on dx12 with the latest version

let's continue the discussion in https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1411110125732892807/1411110125732892807

[frank heart]

Oh true both accounts mentioned lightroom

Lol

[stark topaz]

speaking of shaders, in wuwa, is there a way to slow down the game so i can snapshot the shaders easier ?

cuz i have to deal with clamping in ults in wuwa, and i wasted soo much time trying to get the ult full, getting the snapshot right, then getting to test 10 shaders meaning 10 ults every time and if it doesn’t work try it again

if i could slow down wuwa…..

[frank heart]

why are you wasting your time

testing 10 different ults

I already compiled the list of all shaders

many ult share shaders with each other

as long as you cover everything in my list

[stark topaz]

cuz either the snapshot didn’t got the shader, so when i turn them off and test it i have to test the ult

[frank heart]

you've pretty much covered the game

[naive delta]

Idk yet if there's a specific feature to restore but I think I could just make it if not. Gonna release a console unlocker dll maybe today

[naive delta]

Yes with in-game console unlocked you can type slomo 0.1 or whatever

[naive delta]

I was gonna suggest exactly that

It's totally legit

Works perfectly for every game you'd want it, doesn't have any sussy network activity

Well it's not LEGIT

But it's not malware

I think they are using a stolen driver or something

[stark topaz]

will…that allow me to see slow down the shaders too as they run? cuz that is my issues, the shaders that clamp are short, so i have to press snapshot at the right time, plus them being short or fast for that matter, means that i might miss when they clamp too

[stark topaz]

please teach me on how to do that :3

tho i wander if it will trigger the anti cheat when i mess with the game speed

[autumn jetty]

use a dummy account if you plan to use console commands!

[stark topaz]

yeah i was thinking on testing with another acc XD cuz i will need to use this function to many times and i was worrying that it might trigger the anti-cheat in that type of situation

plus i did borrow some one else acc, and won’t be able to use this method any way on that account, no way I’m risking some one else acc

[subtle warren]

Leave it alone

I found the cvar hehe

[karmic quartz]

what are the best settings to use for a LG CX 48'' ?

[raven wedge]

Any news on addon?

[autumn jetty]

you can get it from the RenoDX server or from github (once the update is pushed)

[misty brook]

Anyone else suddenly not being able to use dx12?

kulol decided it was good idea to take away dx12 even with 12_2 support

[frank heart]

Base level of the game moved to 12_2

Are you on w10?

[misty brook]

Yes I have full DX12_2 support

[misty brook]

11 24h2

[frank heart]

Sounds like conflict with local install and or special k

[misty brook]

no speclai k

local install as in reshade?

[tough ember]

weird, i thought it'd work since it's a public server: https://discord.gg/FGPMBEHH

[naive delta]

I'm releasing console unlocker on Nexus today

[stark topaz]

ok :3

[naive delta]

No need for that. We can play without anticheat

[naive delta]

Does it actually give you the results you're looking for?

[naive delta]

Wdym

[naive delta]

This i do not know but I'll check in a sec

[umbral granite]

r.UnlockAllCharacters 1

r.FixAtrociousRTGI 1

[naive delta]

This we can do

[naive delta]

This we can also do but not with console

[umbral granite]

Kuro... This man right here

[stark topaz]

i mean, when you slow down the game it will slow down all actions, including the effects, that’s where the shader is, and some of them clamp fast, so in theory slowing down the game will also slow down the shader >.> meaning i can see clear as day when it camps and i can take a snapshot of it and dump it for patching

[naive delta]

Right I mean I think that should be the case logically

hmm I'll have to check but we may also be able to use the unreal "demo" recording/playback feature which lets you save a replay of the actual scene, not just a video 🤔

[stark topaz]

that will have to work with Reno mod, cuz otherwise you will not see the clamping

[misty brook]

Like fully disable? Because that would relieve the CPU a lot

Their shit anticheat eat up a lot of cpu

[naive delta]

fully

[naive delta]

I guess its fine to share here you guys are just hdr nerds whatever. First of all you must have user account control enabled and the ACE services need to be set to manual start and not currently running. We are gonna make it so the game does not try to elevate priviliges which prevents it from spawning the kernel anticheat component. It can occasionally kick you back to menu or crash you but this prevents ACE from starting at all. Only game using ACE that doesn't mandate starting as admin. Its not bannable because people can do it by accident due to not being on an admin account. tbh you can also just launch the game normally and close the prompt to elevate privileges but this is better

put the following in your steam launch args if using steam ||cmd /min /C "set __COMPAT_LAYER=RUNASINVOKER && start "" %command%" -d3d12|| otherwise make a .bat next to the game and put this ||cmd /min /C "set __COMPAT_LAYER=RUNASINVOKER && start "" Client-Win64-Shipping.exe" -d3d12 -CmdLineFile=C:\Games\UECommandLines\WUWA.txt||
the args are not needed, just put them to show where you would do so if needed.

there is still internal antidebug, anticheat and a pipe connecting to KRSDK.exe which protects account and payment stuff. If you want peace of mind you can suspend that process after you login.You still can't have reshade as dxgi.dll in the game folder, it still forces crashes in some cases, e.g. before this patch you could delete streamline, xess, and amdfidelityfx but now you must have at least one of those or it forces you to crash. tbh the main benefit I see to this is that you can load dlls post launch since you can already do anything you want if you get the game to load your dll but there's also genuinely no downside to doing it

[naive delta]

it works but it spawned my camera nowhere near where I recorded so its pointless for now. didn't get DCd anyway but maybe because I'm on a fresh account (not because I'm scared of bans, I just logged into the wrong gmail)

[subtle warren]

Yup

[languid dome]

I suppose this works because the user-mode component of ACE is still running, the game for some reason just allows you to play it without the ACE drivers loaded.
Because i know from linux people that completely stripping away the anti-cheat does get you kicked from the server every 20 minutes or so.

[subtle warren]

Interesting

[stark topaz]

This is, i do not need it recorded, what i need is to be able to ingame run this console and slow down the game while renodx mod is running so i can get the shaders to clamp and dump them easyer

[subtle warren]

@cosmic hearth

This is my ultimate settings

For v2

[frank heart]

500 game brightness

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-gif-21708339

[stark topaz]

Was wandering the same

[umbral granite]

HDR 2.0

[stark topaz]

Also 4000 peak brightness

Tho i do keep my game brightness at 260 XD

[subtle warren]

Forgot to say it could depend by your display

[subtle warren]

It's too dark

500 brightness is perfect

4000 brightness it's equivalent to my max nits, it's not actually 4000 ofc it's around 3330

[frank heart]

why don't you use a display mode where it properly clips instead of using 4000 and get double tonemapping

[subtle warren]

It clips properly already, there is no overbrightening or whatsoever these are the correct values according to my tv

Though on pictures may look weird

Sort of "overbrightened"

Everything look overbrightened on pictures

[stark topaz]

What TV is this? How many nits do you have at 100% sustain window?

[frank heart]

use proper clipping mode for your TV like HGIG to ensure actually brighter picture

it's probably why you're using such an insane value like 500 game brightness

[dull flame]

[frank heart]

some samsung qd oled

TVs are not cucked

like monitors

[stark topaz]

T^T

It;s ok, i;m happy with my 600 euros Monitor, no money for a 1000+ one

TV

[dull flame]

Only modded s95f can go above 3000nits

unless you are using a high end miniled

[frank heart]

everythingps5pro tier settings

[dull flame]

this is my feeling

[stark topaz]

this damn emojy, is not working on my ipad discord XD

[dull flame]

best hdr emoji ever

nothing come even close

[stark topaz]

Yeah i can see it on my pc XD

[subtle warren]

My tv is already in hgig mode

the first thing I did was calibrating it for my pc

[subtle warren]

Modded s90c 2000+ nits

[autumn jetty]

~562 is the recommended PW value for 4000 nits

[subtle warren]

S95c mode + ana peak + wb movie setting

Max nits was beyond 3000

Good thing it has a heatsink lol

[autumn jetty]

the recommended value is actually ~500 nits PW for 3330 Peak

[autumn jetty]

what's up with the emojis? I see no huge issues lol

the highlight/contrast is a little high but nothing dramatic

[subtle warren]

4000 that you see it's actually 3330 nits, because even if I slide it to 4000 it's actually maximized to my max nits

[subtle warren]

Because that's v2 highlights, for v1 it would be too high

[autumn jetty]

that's not an accurate measurement tho

[frank heart]

everythingps5pro tier settings

[dull flame]

vivid mode?

[frank heart]

oh shit

i didn't see

[dull flame]

modded s95d is 3000 in fm mode

[frank heart]

he's also extendin the colors

to DCI-P3

[dull flame]

modded s95c is 2000 in fm mode

[autumn jetty]

oh lol I missed that

xD

nvm

[dull flame]

if you get 3000nits from s95c

its definitely vivid mode

or something like 10000k color temp

[autumn jetty]

I don't think that they measured the peak birghtness with an external tool

[dull flame]

ya

clipping point has nothing to do with peak brightness

its the tonemapping target

[subtle warren]

What lol, it's in hgig mode no vivid mode or such thing

[dull flame]

vivid mode is just a name

something like 10000k color temp is require to get 3000nits plus on a s95c

(modded s95c

[zinc steppe]

dci-p3 color space with 70 saturation is crazy

[autumn jetty]

"I like blue" setting lol

yea don't use dci-p3

[dull flame]

its just a name

[subtle warren]

Yes, but in hgig hdr is possible also, it's not only a vivid mode thing if you know what I mean

[dull flame]

vivid mode is just a name for bright but inaccurate settings

[subtle warren]

It depends by the display tbh in the end of the day

All of this can't look the same for all the tv

[dull flame]

if both display is calibarated/accurate

only highlights would look different

hdr use absolute values

[zinc steppe]

dunno if you use dci-p3 in wuwa the ui already starts to look bad

[subtle warren]

Mine does not do that, it looks fine

[dull flame]

anyway im not going to explain more

enjoy what you have

[autumn jetty]

I mean yes, it's your display

[subtle warren]

I can see that you never owned a qd oled my guy🤣

[dull flame]

but we dont like settings like this here

[zinc steppe]

fine i guess, if that works for you

[zinc steppe]

me? I do

[autumn jetty]

QD oleds are actually more "colorful" than LG oleds

[subtle warren]

70 and p3 could be crazy for your monitor tbh, but it does not look oversaturated at all

[autumn jetty]

the color volume is greater

[dull flame]

it will look more saturated on a qdoled than on a woled

[autumn jetty]

exactly

[zinc steppe]

yeah

[subtle warren]

Plus I'm in hgig mode

[dull flame]

idk where you get that 3330nits number but

[autumn jetty]

HGIG mode does not change the colors

[dull flame]

3330nits on s95c is definitely very wrong color temp

[subtle warren]

It changes the tone

Not colors

[frank heart]

he's too far gone

alright guys pack it up let him enjoy his plasma tv

[dull flame]

it does not look oversaturated at all probably because you are playing at very cold color temp

[subtle warren]

What I'm on warm2 lol

[dull flame]

where did you get that 3330nits number

[autumn jetty]

from the calibration screen

[dull flame]

modded s95d is 3000nits, how you achieve more on an s95c

the value you get from the calibration screen is just the tonemapping clipping point

it has nothing to do with actually peak unless your display has an accurate pq eotf tracking

which on s95c, it isnt iirc

[subtle warren]

Calibrated on windows hdr

[subtle warren]

Lol, you so wrong bro🤣

Own a qd oled first the hit me up lol

[autumn jetty]

that's not the actual brightness of your screen tho

[subtle warren]

It's just for game mode

[dull flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q20_oW25NDM&t=710s

[frank heart]

when you put in 4000 nits and say you get 3330 nits

which also shouldn't be really possible on s95c

keep it up

[autumn jetty]

why are you trying to gaslight us lol

[subtle warren]

I have s90c modded to s95c, so all the drawbacks s95c has the 90c does not have it, for example the one connect box on s95c which bad, where as s90c its not one connect box and its 48gbps

[frank heart]

completely unrelated

[dull flame]

modded s90c is also 2000nits

[frank heart]

as modded s90c can't reach 3330 either

[subtle warren]

Not in game mode/ hgig mode

[dull flame]

it is

[subtle warren]

In game mode yes

[frank heart]

unless you have a meter you can measure for us

or any reputable proof

[autumn jetty]

but but how did you measure it?

[frank heart]

you're talking out of your ass

[subtle warren]

Bruh

[dull flame]

you need a specrometer to measure qdoled

[frank heart]

"i read a comment on reddit"

[dull flame]

which he 100% doesnt have

[autumn jetty]

the windows hdr calibration tool is not a tool to measure real life peak brightness

[subtle warren]

It was the answer for the video he sent

[dull flame]

bru you said you have a modded s95c

[subtle warren]

No, look up

[frank heart]

so

how are you measuring it

did the number appear to you in a dream

[dull flame]

its the same conclusion

you are not going to get 3000nits plus on the second gen qdoled

xd

[subtle warren]

Before modding it peak brightness was 1330 which is the real peak brightness of the tv

Stock

[frank heart]

if Windows HDR Calibration is your standard, I can get my laptop to peak at 4000 nits too, guess I have a 4000 nits display now

[dull flame]

its 2000nits when modded

i said that many times

you didnt calibrate the eotf after you modded it

that why you get ridiculously high number in the calibration app

[subtle warren]

I explained it earlier, even if you get to 4000 nits it the max nits displayed are the max nits of your tv

[frank heart]

stop beating around the bush, how are you getting 3330 nits

what max nits

[subtle warren]

3330 bro🤣

[frank heart]

the question everyone has been asking a couple times around here

how are you measuring

[dull flame]

bru

[frank heart]

your TV max nits

[dull flame]

go to the tv thread

[subtle warren]

Bro

[frank heart]

#1383049193186136216 message

[dull flame]

there are people better at explain this to you

[subtle warren]

Before the modding it was 1330 after calibrating it on windows hdr calibration

[frank heart]

again

how

are

you

measuring

it

[subtle warren]

And that's the stock peak brightness

[dull flame]

that you see it's actually 3330 nits

[subtle warren]

After!!!!!

The modding!!!

[autumn jetty]

get a luminance meter and measure it, you are going to be surprised

[frank heart]

$100 that it's not actually 3330 nits

[dull flame]

ofc its after modding

[frank heart]

after modding it can't reach 3330 nits either

[subtle warren]

🤦🏿‍♂️breh

[dull flame]

the second gen qdoled panel simply can not do 3330nits

lol

[frank heart]

like polly said

second gen QD can't do 3330 nits even after modding

[subtle warren]

In game mode/hgig yea

[dull flame]

i would believe you if you have a s95d

[subtle warren]

Lol

[frank heart]

then how do you know you're getting 3330 nits?

like i said

[autumn jetty]

we are going in circles

[dull flame]

some random post on reddit maybe

https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1178744414957473842

bru just go here

[frank heart]

1. "I got 3330 nits from WIndows HDR Calibration"
2. "It came to me in a dream"

[dull flame]

and tell people there

you have a 3330nit s90c

its out of topic here

im leaving now

[frank heart]

if you can convince one knowledgeable people in #🖥️tvs-and-monitors that your S90c can do 3330 nits I'll venmo you 100 bucks

[subtle warren]

From windows hdr calibration, I find
The peak brightness measurement to be accurate because before the modding it was 1330 nits, which is correct

[frank heart]

did you not read

everyone saying

windows HDR calibration is not correct

or did it go in one ear

[dull flame]

why you just assume its still acccurate after modding

[autumn jetty]

I mean, all you need is someone to mod RTSS to display 3 times the real FPS. Free peformance boost 💪

[frank heart]

and come out the other

then again

explaining is useless

you clearly want to believe what you believe

[dull flame]

afaik you need to change the target peak manually after modding

[frank heart]

hence the challenge

if you can convince one knowledgeable people in ⁠ #🖥️tvs-and-monitors that your S90c can do 3330 nits I'll venmo you 100 bucks

[subtle warren]

It's correct because before the modding it was 1330 nits which is correct because it was the actual peak brightness of the TV without modding

Lol

[dull flame]

not only change the ana peak value

[dull flame]

which is not correct

xd

😆

[autumn jetty]

@fervent pike I summon you!

[subtle warren]

I can tell none of you arguing ever owned a qd oled

Cause bruh

[dull flame]

bru

[frank heart]

LOL

amazing deflection

[dull flame]

my pc can buy ten s90c

literally

[subtle warren]

Not a deflection at all

[frank heart]

and yes

[subtle warren]

You'd guys understand if u owned one

[frank heart]

I did have a QD OLED

but i dont like purple blacks

[subtle warren]

Tv

Not monitoe

[frank heart]

you'll understand

[subtle warren]

Tvs are brighter

[frank heart]

if you actually know how the s90c modding works

but again

[subtle warren]

Oh dw I know

[frank heart]

apparently not

if you think your s90c can do 3330

[dull flame]

you will need change the peak brightness target after you change the ana peak

plasma has a video on it

[frank heart]

like I said

[subtle warren]

Do you own one to understand?

[dull flame]

go watch it

[autumn jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-believe-me-trust-me-walter-white-bryan-cranston-gif-16694012

[subtle warren]

Nah

[frank heart]

I've calibrated ones before

like I said

put money down

$200

[fervent pike]

hi

i'm not convinced

[frank heart]

if your s90c can do 3330

[subtle warren]

Same, I've calibrated it lol

[frank heart]

calibrated it with what?

wait

oh no

"Windows HDR Calibration"

yeah ok

[subtle warren]

For game mode yup

[autumn jetty]

son-kun claims that his modded s90c can do 3330 nits and he used the windows hdr tool the measure it

[subtle warren]

All I care about

Hdr Game mode/ hgig has the highest peak brightness compared to hdr game mode off

And other stuff

[autumn jetty]

let's move this to #🖥️tvs-and-monitors

[zinc steppe]

Game mode doesn't magically make your tv do 3300 nits, the absolute limit for gen 2 panels is 2000 nits, at 3330 nits your tv would die in like an hour, its not physically possible

[frank heart]

I think he knows he got cooked and now is just circling to avoid reality

[zinc steppe]

I just want him to understand

its not possible

[subtle warren]

What? Lol as I said you guys never owned a qd oled, y'all cannot see what I see

Ain't avoiding shi

[frank heart]

go ahead

go to #🖥️tvs-and-monitors

convince

1 person

you have a S90C that does 3330

i'll wait