RenoDX: Wuthering Waves

[frank heart]

??????????????

[astral night]

in-game shot please

[frank heart]

take a picture in the game

[misty brook]

Isn't brightness supposed to be at 50

[raven wedge]

vanilla

[astral night]

somebody check if brightness is default 50

that screen might break it

[raven wedge]

In-game camera shot?

[frank heart]

default is 50

but those brightness sliders don't break the game

only global filter does

[astral night]

we should disable it anyway

[frank heart]

entering the menu once clamps the rest of your game

until you delete localstorage.db

[astral night]

• in game
• lilium's hdr analysis on
• RenoDX contrast 100
• RenoDX exposure 2.0
• reshade screenshot

[raven wedge]

RenoDX contrast 100
RenoDX exposure 2.0

[misty brook]

I was referring to ; r.Kuro.KuroBloomStreak - Slightly reduce bloom brightness when set to 0 but I'll use that build and not this 👍

[astral night]

what's your renodx setting in full? (peak game, brightness, etc)

[pastel pond]

vanilla defaults brightness 50 )

[astral night]

i think he was testing pure vanilla

[pastel pond]

yea pure vanilla

[astral night]

set peak to 1000, take screen shot

it's not clipped

just 400 peak nits hdr is meh

[frank heart]

LOL

i figured

[astral night]

thanks, can you set exposure to 1.0 and contrast to like 75 now?

[frank heart]

jesus christ

this is not clipped

[raven wedge]

Shouldn't I use 400 nits since my monitor is hdr400?

[astral night]

now with those exact settings, can you take a screen shot of the Off preset?

[frank heart]

your monitor is just not good at HDR so you should not use HDR at all

and HDR400 means its likely a fake hdr monitor

[pastel pond]

https://cloud.ferrahome.com/s/7ssCgdtsYq7L3Dk/download/DIbvFKibcB.png

[frank heart]

lol

[pastel pond]

renodx without the brightness and exposute

[raven wedge]

Still better than plain sdr tho

[frank heart]

this was really a

goose chase

[astral night]

it's fine

we learned something today

[raven wedge]

[astral night]

and checked out code as well

[pastel pond]

exposure 2.0 contrast100

[frank heart]

welp

[misty brook]

Does this look right to you guys? Just updated my addon

[astral night]

@raven wedge HDR is basically peak nits / game brightness, so your ratio is 400/203, which is 2:1, only 2x better than SDR. SDR's range is 1:1. Your is 2:1. the recommended, spec ratio is 5:1 (1000/203), for something like 400 nits, if you want like 100 game brightness to get back 4:1, but man, you're going to be squinting unless you're in a dark room

[frank heart]

these still need to be patched if someone is up to it

[raven wedge]

Oof

[astral night]

do you have an OLED android phone to look at the images? because generally HDR on your phone is going to look much better than on your 400 nit display

[misty brook]

Laptop?

[raven wedge]

Yup, this is better than sdr

Thanks

[misty brook]

I wouldn't even use hdr then

My stock screen was the same one

[astral night]

nah, you can use hdr

[misty brook]

HDR sucked

[astral night]

just gotta dial down the game brightness

and live in a cave

[raven wedge]

AMOLED, 68B colors, 120Hz, 1920Hz PWM, Dolby Vision, HDR10+, 1400 nits (HBM), 3200 nits (peak)

[frank heart]

1000:1 contrast really gives a bad impression of hdr

[raven wedge]

Damn, my phone has better display than my pc

[frank heart]

whenever u reach anywhere dim

[raven wedge]

Which app tho?

[astral night]

for reference, my panel is 800 nits, and i do 203 with the light on 140-170 with the lights off

[astral night]

pc monitors are a scam

[raven wedge]

Soooo true

[astral night]

i'm on a 42" LG C3

[misty brook]

I'm too lazy for that I just dim my screen 🤣

[pastel pond]

i got the lg C2 42" and it would be hard to go back to something smaller

[frank heart]

on laptop if you dim your screen

[astral night]

even the 1000 nit pc monitors are 2% 1000 nit. whereas TVs peak nits stay peak until 10%

[frank heart]

it also increases your clipping point

[astral night]

the 1000 nit PC monitors are like 450 nits 10%

[frank heart]

so prob keep that in mind

[misty brook]

Yeah like I said too lazy 🗿

[raven wedge]

Never saw apps on android phones for hdr view

[astral night]

chrome itself works

[frank heart]

open the images here in chrome

on mobile

[raven wedge]

I use firefox xd

[astral night]

discord mobile will open chrome

firefox doesn't support hdr

your kind ain't welcome round here bucko

HDR or get out! /s

[raven wedge]

xd

[frank heart]

blurbuster guy donated a lot

to the mozilla foundation

to nudge them

to add hdr

[astral night]

they probably used that money and bought sdr screens

[frank heart]

🤣

[raven wedge]

xdd

[astral night]

i do webdev for real money. firefox has become worse than safari

safari was like barely better than IE for a while

[frank heart]

man

[astral night]

yeah, i need to explain range better

[frank heart]

this could be solved

like an hour ago

if you just followed the faq

[astral night]

nah

[misty brook]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[astral night]

he was on 400 nits

faq has too many words

[raven wedge]

We could solve it at the start, if renodx had proper wiki

on github

With all pictures

[astral night]

there's nothing really broken though

[raven wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-tf2spy-spytf2-gif-19270816

[astral night]

just how hdr works, if you set peak to 400, then it's going to be weak

[pastel pond]

remember they do this for free... and the fact that we are getting helps is already huge

making a wiki for everyone is a lot of time, and effort

[raven wedge]

Damn, this game look way better with HDR

[astral night]

some addons have game brightness automated tuned to the recommended settings (eg: ~100 for 400 nits)

[frank heart]

its fine

[frank heart]

can we add one per game for the UE addon

[astral night]

in one of the game i read the Windows SDR level and set that as deafult UI brightness and i think the suggested value for game brightness

[astral night]

@raven wedge what display do you have?

maybe it has some dynamic tonemapping on, because 1000 should just look clipped to hell with hgig on a 400 nit panel

[raven wedge]

Cheap assito Acer VG271U

[frank heart]

he probably changed it back to 400

[pastel pond]

btw after increasing contrast and exposure what else should i try ?

[frank heart]

or did he

[raven wedge]

Yup I did

To 500+

[astral night]

set 1000 / 203 and take reshade screenshot, then set it to off and take another reshade screenshot, share both

no abl at least: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/acer/nitro-vg271up-pbmiipx

[raven wedge]

One sec

[astral night]

no PQ testing on rtings though

[frank heart]

huh

i thought they did

or just not for monitors seciton

[astral night]

not very comfortable to sit on

[raven wedge]

1000

off

[frank heart]

i think we are asking the other guy

not you

[astral night]

i meant Sokrates but yeah, it's working

[raven wedge]

This is why I use VESA

Ahhhhhhhhhh

Ok

xd

[pastel pond]

with exposure and contrats set t 2.0 and 100 right ?

[astral night]

you can do 1.0 and 50

[pastel pond]

ok

[astral night]

if it looks overly wrong we can troubleshoot with exposure and contrast to ensure it's not capped. capped specifically means the game dosen't go past game brightness

hmm, set contrast to 100 and exposure to 2.0

[pastel pond]

ok

[frank heart]

clamped

[misty brook]

Hmm... The sliders don't seem to be doing anything

[pastel pond]

exposure 2.0 contrast 100

[misty brook]

Haven't opened global filters

[frank heart]

which sliders...?

include a renodx settings screenshot

[misty brook]

RenoDX doesn't seem to be working 🤔

[astral night]

it's not capped

[astral night]

upgrade reshade 6.5.1

[frank heart]

exposure 1.0 contrast 75 then

[pastel pond]

exposure 1.0 contrast 75

[astral night]

it's not capped at least

[frank heart]

i'll need to sanity check this

the clouds dont look right

[misty brook]

Put contrast and saturation to 0 to test 🤔

[astral night]

new lut builder?

[frank heart]

im in the same area

[astral night]

enable Dump Lut Shaders, restart game, check log

[frank heart]

i probably ran through that area

are you using d3d12 to inject

or SK

[misty brook]

19:15:55:099 [14304] | INFO  | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000000011A93E030 ('C:\Program Files\Special K\Profiles\Wuthering Waves\ReShade\ReShade.ini').
19:15:55:275 [14304] | WARN  | Failed to resolve search path 'C:\Program Files\Special K\Global\ReShade\Shaders\' with error code 2.
19:15:55:277 [14304] | WARN  | Failed to resolve search path 'C:\Program Files\Special K\Profiles\Wuthering Waves\ReShade\reshade-shaders\Shaders\' with error code 3.```

[frank heart]

yeah man use D3D12 method

if it's an SK issue you probably have to reset settings

and figure out on ur own

wanna fix some output shaders

[misty brook]

I need fps cap and reflex tho

[frank heart]

you can still use SK

lol

the D3D12 method can be used with SK

[astral night]

there's a reshade addon that does frame cap

[frank heart]

you're just injecting it locally

instead of using SK

#1383049193186136216 message

[misty brook]

I guess

Let me delete my config and try that then

[astral night]

seems like it's working, tbh. cloudy sky is dark, but maybe check an area with some lights or lamps

[frank heart]

i have a surefire way

can you copy these exact settings

then take a pic anywhere with bright lights

for example

this wouild work

[pastel pond]

yea im trying to look for a better place

[misty brook]

Is effect runtime sync necessary?

[frank heart]

no

disable all reshade effects except reno

and SK if you managed to get it to work

lol

[pastel pond]

is this scene better?

[frank heart]

@tough ember linear ftw, look at the clouds definition

like real life clouds fr fr

[astral night]

what's your peak nits?

[pastel pond]

i have it set to 700 atm

[frank heart]

just copy my settings i mentioned

and take a picture at that exact same spot

should be easy once we match settings

[pastel pond]

okj

[frank heart]

you either look exactly the same or you're not

just copy exactly

[frank heart]

time of day?

that loks clipped

clouds with those settings

[astral night]

idk what linear tonemapper is, not my work

[frank heart]

should not loose definition

[pastel pond]

it doesn't let me change it

[frank heart]

how can you not change time of day

huh?

[frank heart]

it's teh same as turning kurotonemapper off / set to 0 in engine.ini

[pastel pond]

i have not completed the story so idk if the time change is related to that

[frank heart]

im pretty sure you're clipped

your waveform abruptly cuts off at like close to 400

when it shouldn't

with those settings

[pastel pond]

yea, idk what else to try / do

[frank heart]

there's really nothing that can be causing this if you've been doing everything correctly

other than

opening the global filter menu

[astral night]

could be bad output shader

[frank heart]

can the output shader change and be teh same hash?

[astral night]

it's clipping before the lut sampling i think?

no, same hash

but he's on a different hash than magic wizard was

0x271e is old though

[frank heart]

can 0x271e itself change after i turn on global filter but still has teh same hash

nothing after 0x271e turns screen black

even though the game is clipping

[astral night]

global filter or some brightness thing lerps to 1

[pastel pond]

FireflyDrink

[astral night]

  r2.xyz = t0.Sample(s0_s, r0.xy).xyz;  // render
  r2.xyz = cb0[69].xyz * r2.xyz;
  r0.xy = cb0[68].xy * r0.xy + cb0[68].zw; // scaling
  r0.xy = max(cb0[60].xy, r0.xy);
  r0.xy = min(cb0[60].zw, r0.xy);
  r0.xyz = t1.Sample(s1_s, r0.xy).xyz; // bloom
  r0.xyz = r2.xyz * v1.xxx + r0.xyz;  // v1.x scaling? + bloom
  r2.xy = cb0[73].xy * float2(2, 2) + v1.zw;
  r2.xy = float2(-1, -1) + r2.xy;
  r2.xy = cb0[71].xx * r2.xy;
  r2.xy = cb0[71].zw * r2.xy;
  r0.w = dot(r2.xy, r2.xy);
  r1.w = saturate(cb0[72].w);
  r1.w = r1.w * 9 + 1;
  r0.w = r0.w * r1.w + 1;
  r0.w = rcp(r0.w);
  r0.w = r0.w * r0.w;
  r2.xyz = float3(1, 1, 1) + -cb0[72].xyz; // lerp
  r2.xyz = r0.www * r2.xyz + cb0[72].xyz; // color lerp
  r0.xyz = r2.xyz * r0.xyz; // lerp?

  float3 untonemapped = max(0, r0.xyz);

maybe

so whatever cb0[72].xyz is

idk if wino messed with the shader though

@pastel pond try https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/releases/download/snapshot/renodx-unrealengine.addon64

[pastel pond]

ok

using the same settings spiwar told me

[astral night]

ye

same though

[frank heart]

That line there at 400

I dont clamp with either urs or repo

[astral night]

it's capped before 0x271

the lut builder output isn't capped

texture upgrades?

don't you normally need bgra8u for asian games?

[pastel pond]

idk it seems to be cursed

Dead

[frank heart]

Maybe delete localstorage.db again

And restart the game

[pastel pond]

ok ill delete it again

[frank heart]

Delete after you closed the game please

Not when the game is opened

All good

[subtle warren]

I have scene color fringe quality disabled and tonemapper quality, but the hdr did not break

[misty brook]

My dumb ass had compat mode on

All good now

[frank heart]

Good for u then

One of it could break

[misty brook]

Yes I am using it right now

Although reflex is gone for some reason 🗿

[subtle warren]

I just hope this mod won't break on the next update

Hdr is vital for my eyes

[frank heart]

Reflex?

[misty brook]

Weird

[frank heart]

Nvidia overlay or sk overlay

[misty brook]

Maybe the discord build of SK is bugged or something

[frank heart]

Nvidia overlay wiuld show reflex stats

If theres active refresh

[frank heart]

Its always user error

Cuz im always on the latest build of everything

With no issue 😎

[frank heart]

Can you go to another area

And take a picture

[pastel pond]

yea

[frank heart]

In rinascita

Daytime

Look at clouds

[astral night]

this isn't clipped, what changed?

[frank heart]

He deleted localstorage.db

....

[astral night]

time to add a button to the Wuwa mod

[pastel pond]

this is the third or 4th time i delete localstoage btw...

[misty brook]

I just clean installed SK times don't know what to say

[astral night]

where is the localstorage.db btw?

[misty brook]

Anyways is this bloom slider what you meant?
@tough ember

[pastel pond]

F:\Wuthering Waves\Wuthering Waves Game\Client\Saved\LocalStorage

[astral night]

time to buy an F drive

[frank heart]

im like 90% sure you deleted while the game was running

so it just rebuilds a new one on exit

[pastel pond]

im pretty sure i didnt but could be, as i said i delete dit more than a few times trying to fix the issue before

thanks for the help

[frank heart]

enjoy your game

[pastel pond]

thanks now i can do the story LOL

[astral night]

i wonder why it happens though

[misty brook]

Woah this bloom slider is so nice

Finally

[astral night]

i've never needed to delete anything

[misty brook]

I think 25 should be good

[frank heart]

dont click on global filters button ever again or misfortune will come

[misty brook]

100 is way too strong

[frank heart]

once you've accessed the global filter menu once it triggers something and your game is permanently clamped until you reset all settings by deleting localstorage.db

[pastel pond]

i click on global filters once when the update hit, then deleted the game since a friend tried to help me and no luck so nuked everything twice... and never touched itagain

[astral night]

should just find that shader

[misty brook]

Should grain stay at 100?

[astral night]

with Oblivion i went through all of them because it's more time to troubleshoot than just fixing them

[frank heart]

any shader that turns the game black or freeze at this point for me

is before the lutbuilder

[frank heart]

set it to whatever you want

if you dont want to try

just copy this

[misty brook]

I can't really tell the difference between 0 and 100 honestly

[regal owl]

sorry if i missed something but how do i get the wuthering waves options?

[pastel pond]

wel thanks again, appreciate the work you guys do , hopefulyl it doesnt break again

[misty brook]

Thanks!

I already thought 80 saturation was a bit too much, this looks a lot more balanced

[frank heart]

scroll back

search for files posted by wino

[misty brook]

Is 140 too low for a 1100 nits panel? 🤔

[frank heart]

140 game brightness?

i have it at 120 because my room is dark

[misty brook]

Yes

[frank heart]

you basically adjust it until it doesn't look overtly bright for you

or looks balanced

[regal owl]

Thank you, this really is the most prettiest game with the mod

[misty brook]

Apparently I disabled my NVAPI somehow? Doesn't make much sense

[echo jackal]

Wino latest build - Scene grading strength 100 - Kurotonemapping/Filmic/Aces/Linear - skin and color comparison

Scene grading strength 0 - Kurotonemapping/Filmic/Aces/Linear

[astral night]

where is Kurotonemapping/Filmic/Aces/Linear coming from?

why is there aces

[echo jackal]

the new sliders wino added

[astral night]

yeah, that doesn't make sense

[frank heart]

The sliders are named wrong

; 0 = Off, 1 = Genshin, 2 = Death Stranding, 3 = Kuro (Default)

; Yes, those are the information Kuro used for the tonemapping command lol

[astral night]

i'm assuming this: ```cpp
[branch]
if (asint(cb0[86].y) != 0) {
r2.xyz = r0.xyz * float3(1.36000001, 1.36000001, 1.36000001) + float3(0.0469999984, 0.0469999984, 0.0469999984);
r2.xyz = r2.xyz * r0.xyz;
r3.xyz = r0.xyz * float3(0.959999979, 0.959999979, 0.959999979) + float3(0.560000002, 0.560000002, 0.560000002);
r3.xyz = r0.xyz * r3.xyz + float3(0.140000001, 0.140000001, 0.140000001);
// r0.xyz = saturate(r2.xyz / r3.xyz);

r0.xyz = (r2.xyz / r3.xyz);
if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0.f) {
  r0.xyz = saturate(r0.xyz);
}

}
[branch]
if (asint(cb0[86].z) != 0) {
r2.xyz = float3(-0.195050001, -0.195050001, -0.195050001) + r0.xyz;
r2.xyz = float3(-0.163980007, -0.163980007, -0.163980007) / r2.xyz;
r2.xyz = float3(1.00495005, 1.00495005, 1.00495005) + r2.xyz;
// r3.xyz = cmp(float3(0.600000024, 0.600000024, 0.600000024) >= r0.xyz);
// r3.xyz = r3.xyz ? float3(1, 1, 1) : 0;

r3.xyz = (float3(0.600000024, 0.600000024, 0.600000024) >= r0.xyz) ? float3(1, 1, 1) : 0;
r4.xyz = -r2.xyz + r0.xyz;
// r0.xyz = saturate(r3.xyz * r4.xyz + r2.xyz);
r0.xyz = (r3.xyz * r4.xyz + r2.xyz);
if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0) {
  r0.xyz = saturate(r0.xyz);
}

}
[branch]
if (asint(cb0[86].w) != 0) {
r2.xyz = cb0[37].yyy * r0.xyz;
r2.xyz = cb0[37].www * cb0[37].zzz + r2.xyz;
r3.xy = cb0[38].xx * cb0[38].yz;
r2.xyz = r0.xyz * r2.xyz + r3.xxx;
r3.xzw = r0.xyz * cb0[37].yyy + cb0[37].zzz;
r3.xyz = r0.xyz * r3.xzw + r3.yyy;
r2.xyz = r2.xyz / r3.xyz;
r0.w = cb0[38].y / cb0[38].z;
// r0.xyz = saturate(r2.xyz + -r0.www);
r0.xyz = (r2.xyz + -r0.www);
if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0.f) {
r0.xyz = saturate(r0.xyz);
}
}

[frank heart]

@tough ember should probably change the options name back to how theyre called in the ini

[astral night]

a, b, c, (none)

they're also layered

toggled not exclusive

.y on/off, .z on/off, .w on/off

all 3 can run at the same time

uh..

i know what that third one is

wow, they really didn't know what they're doing

[frank heart]

👀

[astral night]

cb0[37].w is the UE tonemapping that already runs in the lutbuilder

they're double tonemapping

what dumb dumbs

they didn't actually disable the lut builder

[echo jackal]

so is that why the skin is all blown out

[astral night]

that shoud have per channel correction as well

[frank heart]

Skin is blown out with any of the options thats not off

[astral night]

but honestly better to throw it out completely and just do your own custom grading

[frank heart]

^

[astral night]

yeah because it's tonemap to sdr in per channel and blowout then pass that to UE lut builder

the output shaders should have ApplyPerChannelCorrection in the output shader here as well as in the UE lut builder

[echo jackal]

damn they really messed it up good

[frank heart]

Cant really blame them

They did whatever they did to make their look in sdr

[astral night]

@tough ember try this ```cpp

float3 untonemapped = max(0, r0.xyz);
bool is_tonemapped = false;
[branch]
if (asint(cb0[86].y) != 0) {
r2.xyz = r0.xyz * float3(1.36000001, 1.36000001, 1.36000001) + float3(0.0469999984, 0.0469999984, 0.0469999984);
r2.xyz = r2.xyz * r0.xyz;
r3.xyz = r0.xyz * float3(0.959999979, 0.959999979, 0.959999979) + float3(0.560000002, 0.560000002, 0.560000002);
r3.xyz = r0.xyz * r3.xyz + float3(0.140000001, 0.140000001, 0.140000001);
// r0.xyz = saturate(r2.xyz / r3.xyz);

r0.xyz = (r2.xyz / r3.xyz);
if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0.f) {
  r0.xyz = saturate(r0.xyz);
}
is_tonemapped = true;

}
[branch]
if (asint(cb0[86].z) != 0) {
r2.xyz = float3(-0.195050001, -0.195050001, -0.195050001) + r0.xyz;
r2.xyz = float3(-0.163980007, -0.163980007, -0.163980007) / r2.xyz;
r2.xyz = float3(1.00495005, 1.00495005, 1.00495005) + r2.xyz;
// r3.xyz = cmp(float3(0.600000024, 0.600000024, 0.600000024) >= r0.xyz);
// r3.xyz = r3.xyz ? float3(1, 1, 1) : 0;

r3.xyz = (float3(0.600000024, 0.600000024, 0.600000024) >= r0.xyz) ? float3(1, 1, 1) : 0;
r4.xyz = -r2.xyz + r0.xyz;
// r0.xyz = saturate(r3.xyz * r4.xyz + r2.xyz);
r0.xyz = (r3.xyz * r4.xyz + r2.xyz);
if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0) {
  r0.xyz = saturate(r0.xyz);
}
is_tonemapped = true;

}
[branch]
if (asint(cb0[86].w) != 0) {
r2.xyz = cb0[37].yyy * r0.xyz;
r2.xyz = cb0[37].www * cb0[37].zzz + r2.xyz;
r3.xy = cb0[38].xx * cb0[38].yz;
r2.xyz = r0.xyz * r2.xyz + r3.xxx;
r3.xzw = r0.xyz * cb0[37].yyy + cb0[37].zzz;
r3.xyz = r0.xyz * r3.xzw + r3.yyy;
r2.xyz = r2.xyz / r3.xyz;
r0.w = cb0[38].y / cb0[38].z;
// r0.xyz = saturate(r2.xyz + -r0.www);
r0.xyz = (r2.xyz + -r0.www);
if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0.f) {
r0.xyz = saturate(r0.xyz);
}
is_tonemapped = true;
}

if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE != 0.f) {
r0.xyz = max(0, r0.xyz);
if (is_tonemapped) {
if (CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_BLOWOUT_RESTORATION != 0.f
|| CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_HUE_CORRECTION != 0.f
|| CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_SATURATION_CORRECTION != 0.f
|| CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_HUE_SHIFT != 0.f) {
r0.xyz = renodx::draw::ApplyPerChannelCorrection(
untonemapped,
r0.xyz,
CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_BLOWOUT_RESTORATION,
CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_HUE_CORRECTION,
CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_SATURATION_CORRECTION,
CUSTOM_COLOR_GRADE_HUE_SHIFT);
}
r0.xyz = renodx::tonemap::UpgradeToneMap(
untonemapped,
renodx::tonemap::renodrt::NeutralSDR(r0.xyz), // Intentional
r0.xyz, 1.f);
} else {
r0.xyz = untonemapped;
}
}

with whatever you have

honestly should fork wuwa into it's own mod anyway

very custom

that's what i shared above ^

[frank heart]

No more clipped fleurdelys ult 👀

[misty brook]

Bloom is finally usable now

[echo jackal]

made an accidental discovery while messing around with r.Tonemapper.Quality=0 to disable vignette which inadvertently fixed fleurdelys ult 😂

[misty brook]

Wino the goat 👍

[echo jackal]

guessing that disabling it just skips over the shader that clamps the output, not sure what other parameters that engine.ini tweak affects though

[cosmic hearth]

😂

[frank heart]

Fleur should be that one

[frank heart]

If I set UI brightnwss to 400

Then the ult works properly

The trial is

Available

So u can test what i mean by that

[frank heart]

no

@tough ember i was barely noticing any perf gains

with grain and bloom off

but then I remember

I have a crappy iGPU

Im not home today so perfect chance to test stuff on the iGPU

i can't even notice

it looks within margin of error

game looks okay on an iGPU with FSR2 via optiscaler

500p FSR2 -> 1000p FSR1 -> 1800p

[subtle warren]

@tough ember bro, can you send the renodx with the bloom slider?

Is it the one on pinned messages?

[cosmic hearth]

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[subtle warren]

Thank you

[frank heart]

Will do later

U can drop a quick clip

Obs hevc is pretty quick

[cosmic hearth]

Visually speaking, I think the four options are very suitable for their respective styles

r.KuroTonemapping=0，None

Basically consistent

It's interesting.
If you choose any of the Tonerapper options, switching SDR will still be affected
Switching between Vanilla and OFF will work

👍

[tough ember]

[Latest version](#1411110125732892807 message)

[misty brook]

Is the one you sent me v1 or 2?

[echo jackal]

scene grading sliders like blowout restoration is still not working in v2 with tonemappers other than off

ah ok i'll take a deeper look in a bit

skin appears to have been fixed and no longer blown out

need to test more scenes but so far changes look like a great improvement

[frank heart]

ah like that earlier build from the other day

[echo jackal]

quick and dirty screenshot with v2 build - scene grading strength 100 - Kurotonemapping on

[frank heart]

@tough ember looks like we have issues

you probably still haven't fixed that

things being tied to the brightness issue

even no tonemapper is clipping now

I might have

looked at this game for too long

the moment i booted the game up and looked at the clouds i knew it didn't look right

all highlights are tied to UI

V1 is fine, so this is one of your V2 changes

[frank heart]

since I can do 1:1 comparisons with kuro on now

this will broadly match vanilla (including how raised the shadows are) but you get the extra highlight details from having the tonemapper off

Vanilla+ preset ( Set flare to 35 though )

[frank heart]

vanilla (kuro on) -> match but with kuro off -> what I'd actually use

[subtle warren]

How do we get that hdr brightness tab?

That one to check the nits

[native sinew]

thats one of the shaders made by lilium

hdr analysis

[subtle warren]

Ah how to get it?@native sinew

[native sinew]

you can select it when installing reshade or from here https://github.com/EndlesslyFlowering/ReShade_HDR_shaders?tab=readme-ov-file

i recommend selecting it always

[subtle warren]

Ok thank you, one last thing, what's the difference between regular rcas and lilium rcas hdr?

[echo jackal]

something is griefed in v1, my game keeps crashing when i try to fleur ult

yeah 3 times in a row i tried to use it

went back to ue4 addon and it worked fine

aerorover ult also crashing the game, i think it might be some effect triggering it

ah ok makes sense

[echo jackal]

aite let me try that one

still crashes

ya outside

let me check in the trial

crashed in the trial too

[frank heart]

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0xffffffffffffffff

0x00007fff8b20fdde renodx-wutheringwaves-V1.addon64!UnknownFunction []
0x00007fff8b1c0000 renodx-wutheringwaves-V1.addon64!UnknownFunction []

Crash in runnable thread RHIThread

confirmed cashing

[subtle warren]

@tough ember the renodx tab won't open, its hdr works but the tab won't appear, this is with the new one you uploaded

Found the issue nvm

@tough ember do I have to delete the ktm command from the ini file?

For it to work correctly?

I did, the tab appeared, and all works wonderfully

But do I have to delete the ktm cvar from the engine ini to be able to use ktm of reno?

[subtle warren]

@tough ember kuro tonemapping is better on or off?

[patent blade]

this one seems fine, I have been using it for two days

[frank heart]

your mod just reads the unrealengine renoDX settings before

I didn't need to do any adjustments

so if I'm following your logic correctly letting your mod re-do the ini section would be a cope solution for now?

09:55:04:553 [68732] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Failed to replace pipeline)
09:55:04:570 [60836] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::BuildReplacementPipeline(Replacing 0xd52834a1)
09:55:05:019 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15D0D8) ...
09:55:05:019 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15D0D8) ...
09:55:05:020 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15D0D8) ...
09:55:05:020 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15D0D8) ...
09:55:05:021 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15DA38) ...
09:55:05:021 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15DA38) ...
09:55:05:021 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15DA38) ...
09:55:05:022 [60836] | INFO  | Redirecting CreateDXGIFactory1(riid = {7B7166EC-21C7-44AE-B21A-C9AE321AE369}, ppFactory = 000000007B15DA38) ...

not sure if relevant but this is what it was throwing out beofre crashing

just when that fleur shader is replaced

probably

oh well

back to the mod before then

[frank heart]

this doesn't really work

whats your UI brightness?

I think you might mistaking when it's fixing itself with high enough UI brightness

[echo jackal]

i'm running default 203

probably doesn't fix in all situations i guess

[frank heart]

u can test in trial its not going to fix

you're probably having sufficient brightness for it to not be a problem

set ui to 120 and the problem is very obvious

😭

[echo jackal]

heres 120 ui, decent enough as a workaround for now

not completely black like before

[frank heart]

Its probably not related to tonemapper quality

Must be something else you're doing

[echo jackal]

that was the setting that fixed it for me, but I suppose it could be a result of a combination of other things I disabled

[frank heart]

engine.ini

for a quick check

let me see if i can replicate this

[echo jackal]

most likely these i'm betting

r.SceneColorFringeQuality=0```

full ini here

[frank heart]

probably not that either

although at least i now get why you're getting those weird colors

actually

what build are you using

[echo jackal]

which weird colors

[frank heart]

are you using the build with the broken highlights?

[echo jackal]

i went back to an earlier ue4 build that was dropped here, been swapping too many not sure which exact one tbh

[frank heart]

the V2 build and one of the earlier builds

had highlights tied to UI

you can very easily test

just change the UI slider

if it's changing your image other than the UI

then you have one of the broken builds

[echo jackal]

oh yeah seems like it

actually no its kinda weird the highlights go back to normal after adjusting the slider, it just fluctuates while adjusting

[frank heart]

the overall highlights are borked though, probably why its accidentally working

the clouds are clipping even in your clip

or maybe not and that's just how kurotonemapper looks

[echo jackal]

probably this

[frank heart]

its still broken somewhere else though

so prob move back to a working build

#1383049193186136216 message

[echo jackal]

thats the build you're using?

[frank heart]

yeah

[echo jackal]

aite gonna do another sanity check on the ult

😂

[frank heart]

#1383049193186136216 message

this is probably the build you were using

or maybe a build close to that

[echo jackal]

still working

but ya the ui slider is normal now

[echo jackal]

actually wait its the same build i was already on, build date is the same

[frank heart]

build time is different actually same build time, must have fixed itself somehow

and its broken now

you just have enough UI brightness

u can compare with your own video from before

your previous vs current vid

[echo jackal]

at least mine is still visible with 120 ui, but ya needa wait for the real fix

wonky stuff going on

[frank heart]

What did u change

[subtle warren]

Do we paste this one on the reshade folder?

[frank heart]

Replace your existing addon...

[subtle warren]

This is a 2.60 mb file, is it the same file?

[frank heart]

Yes

Delete all your old addons

Replace it with this one

[astral night]

are you building with visual studio?

well, if you forked it, you don't have all the ue shaders

[echo jackal]

doesn't crash now, but its still broken in a different way

new bug

seems to affect the transformation here too, the colors are borked as well

going to test some stuff first

i doubt there's suddenly new shaders

yeah its just the boss area where we first found some issues

and had some extra shaders which spiwar got

aite false alarm, deleting pso and forcing it to recompile shaders fixed it

yeah i thought it was a bit odd

\Wuthering Waves\Wuthering Waves Game\Client\Saved\PSO\

delete the folders there

[umbral granite]

If you want to visually showcased a characters sheer OPness... This is one way to do it

[autumn jetty]

haha yea, her English voice is a lot better tho

[frank heart]

FYI

i'll probably add this to the wiki

do r.kurotonemapping=0

for all tests now

since you can toggle kurotonemapping on back via the addon

but you don't get all the stray clamped output shader

that you get with kurotonemapping on any values other than 0

[nocturne lava]

Yeah this looks kinda amazing even if it is broken

[plush narwhal]

this fixed roccia's ult crashing the game as well 🫶 thanks!!

something kinda weird is that when i used carthethyia in crisis trial before even updating the mod ive never had it crash or had any weird effects?

or maybe they were just so subtle i didnt notice

[subtle warren]

What are the best rcas hdr settings? @frank heart

[frank heart]

it's included in the 4 shaders zip I've posted here

but in the future it's better just to turn it off bc there's no reason not to

[misty brook]

What bloom setting do you guys use? 35 looks pretty decent to me

[patent blade]

Is game default 100?

[frank heart]

yes

[frank heart]

https://youtu.be/RjmlvI6beys?si=y2zKw6MfPKTHn3Fr

does this look too dim for you guys

not sure if I should turn up to 150 diffuse just for recording

[misty brook]

Diffuse?

[frank heart]

Like paper white/game brightness

[visual sand]

So anything new regarding this?

[visual sand]

What did you add?

Well not like I can test it anyway cause I’m currently in HK away from my PC until October

All I have with me rn is a Mid Tier laptop that’s good enough to run my usual games but not anything fancy

[frank heart]

Just fixes and missing shaders

Depends on the version you're moving from

[cosmic hearth]

buddy
This is really funny
The animation flaw of the ultimate skill, in my opinion, looks much better than before

😂

[frank heart]

Theres a recorded vud here before

#1383049193186136216 message

Was this one?

[frank heart]

weird embed is not working

there you go

card game animation

looks pretty good in hdr

[patent blade]

If using dx11 to play game, should I rename dxgi.dll to d3d11.dll?

[frank heart]

Wtf lol

Not the one i sent?

Fleur fix soon(tm)

[nocturne lava]

I'll try it out tomorrow if I have time! Thank you

[echo jackal]

can confirm fleurdelys ult fixed

noticed some red radioactive colors that weren't there before though just from the login screen transition, not sure if thats an indication that something else borked

just checked vanilla and it looks like its supposed to fade to black

needa test more in game, but so far looks like sliders are working

[frank heart]

all my presets are broken

so its definitely working

probably broken in a good way

kuro tonemapping on

doesn't completely kill highlights

and strength 0

looks the same

between all kurotonemappers

which i think is the more intended behavior

[frank heart]

the highlights blowout stuff from the kuro is mitigated as well

[echo jackal]

highlight slider is working really well with all of the tonemappers now, skill effects blow out to white just like in sdr but without the clipping

[frank heart]

it really still doesn't

but i never had a problem with that

it's definitely very close now

probably also not possible to match SDR saturation exactly

[echo jackal]

yeah not exactly like sdr but close enough

also seems like none of my engine.ini tweaks broke

so i can keep chromatic aberration and vignette disabled

[frank heart]

vignette might be interesting to tweak

because

if you play the new tacet field

it flickers between vignette on and off

some accident because of the output shaders that were fixed

I've got a decent preset going

kuro on preset this time

probably won't even bother doing kuro offf this time around

[echo jackal]

there was an area on the map where that happened too but at the time we had shaders that still needed fixing so i just turned it off via engine.ini to bypass

[frank heart]

Vanilla / RenoDRT

black was still tweaked because the lifted black levels look really really bad in HDR

it's still lifted but less so

more appropriate in HDR

last thing to decide on is just

Ictcp

vs OKLab

OKLab / Ictcp

might be so subtle it's not worth muttering over

OKLab / ICtCP

this one should be more noticeable

yeah

it's my last knob as well

if u look at the flowers

not sure what i should settle with rn

color changes

or just more options for vignette/ca

i mean like in general

new preset (turn Shadows to 45 if you want deeper shadows)

Vanilla / RenoDRT

[frank heart]

man

immersive mode looks good

but it really does turn off too much UI

like stamina bar

[frank heart]

OK

Fleur's ult is not fixed

I'm also not getting the red color

@echo jackal is having

[cosmic hearth]

Is it a problem with the monitor?
8 Shake 10
or
Native 10

[cosmic hearth]

I have encountered it

I suspect it is
Non native 10
Problem caused

But I'm not sure
I need to ask what his monitor is

[echo jackal]

Tested on 4k 240hz qd OLED, running 10bit, recording is game output so unlikely to be monitor related, got a few other things to try later

[cosmic hearth]

oh
That’s too bad
I don't know where the problem is now

我认为是显示器的问题，我的显示器它不是原生10，是8抖10来着的

而且托这个，导致我这里的RenoDX和你们不太一样

I think it's a problem with the monitor. It's not a native 10, it's an 8-to-10 display
And because of this, my RenoDX here is different from yours

嗯，这是我观察你们的对比我自己的

Well, this is my observation of your comparison and my own

一样的设置，一样的操作
仍然出问题，我认为是硬件问题

Same settings, same operations
Still having problems, I think it's a hardware issue

[frank heart]

Hardware issue wouldnt pop up in a recording

[cosmic hearth]

我明白你的意思
只是我已经做过好多次
比如重新安装系统，重新安装游戏，重新安装Reshade
但仍然出现这个问题

I know what you mean
I've just done it many times already
For example, reinstalling the system, reinstalling the game, reinstalling Reshade
But this problem still occurs****

Do you still remember?
The SDR image you sent last time made us guess
I thought it was RTX HDR at the time

It's too troublesome
If I knew these questions
I will definitely buy an OLED monitor

This way, I can rule out these issues

😂

我认为我的问题，只有显示器的输出颜色深度。
现在我需要同样的问题，你们的显示器是什么样的
如果你们不是8抖10，是原生10
仍然有这个问题
那么我就可以排除显示器的问题
我会认为是用户操作错误的问题

I think my problem is only the output color depth of the monitor.
Now I need the same question, what is your monitor like
If you're not 8 Douyin 10, you're a native 10
There is still this issue
So I can rule out the issue with the monitor
I would think it's a user error

[frank heart]

It isnt related to bit depth

Or hardware in this case

If its hardware related he wouldnt have been able to record and post it here

[cosmic hearth]

All right

[cosmic hearth]

[frank heart]

not sure if it's a known issue

@tough ember but yeah certain moves/ animations becomes super dark

probably because of a shader being used there

Sanhua's Heavy attack
Cantarella's Ult
Camellya's Gacha animation

it's not just dark, it's clamping to UI whereas it wasn't clamping before 🙂

[echo jackal]

haven't used those characters in a while but yeah seeing the same clamping now

[frank heart]

yeah and these were the shaders that were fixed/ had no issues before

[subtle warren]

@frank heart I have hdr analisys in reshade, but somehow the texts are missing, do I have to enable something ?

For example
1000 nits
800 nits etc..

[frank heart]

enable the shaders

[subtle warren]

All hdr analysis shaders if I understand correctly?

[stiff oak]

The new addon64 file doesn't work properly on AMD graphics cards, similar to what @frank heart encountered, but even more severe.

[frank heart]

sure

[frank heart]

can you take HDR PNGs

JXRs are so 2000 and late

SK can take HDR PNGs
Reshade can take HDR PNGs

post it here

[misty brook]

Y'all getting crashes or nah

Not sure if it's from the game or something else

[autumn jetty]

No crashes so far

but I'm still using the 572.83 nvidia driver

[frank heart]

Same

[frank heart]

can't you just use the HDR analysis shader

with reno

in vanilla mode

[stiff oak]

thx,I'll try it when I get home

There's a time difference between us, and I still need 7 more hours before I can finish work and use my pc.

[frank heart]

What about the legendary fleur's ult tho

[frank heart]

i believe you added the color space becaus you wanted to match SDR saturation?

not sure if this is the right approach

although it looks

interesting

Vanilla / RenoDRT / RenoDRT (Color Space Bt.2020)

[frank heart]

kk

[frank heart]

vanilla / renodrt

saturation is probably a match for SDR this time around

Vanilla / old preset / current preset

[frank heart]

aight ( set 50 if want closer to vanilla shadows )

[frank heart]

Yeah it looks way diff

I think my new preset matches how the sdr saturation is supposed to look in hdr now

Check out the grass

[stiff oak]

@frank heart Can you demonstrate how you save and share HDR screenshots? I tried using Reshade's screenshot function, but the PNGs are still very large and do not retain HDR information.

[frank heart]

Paste the PNG here

[frank heart]

It has HDR info, your image viewer probably cant show it

Paste here and we'll know

[stiff oak]

The black level issue still persists after using the new file

[frank heart]

What black level issue?

You're not using any grading options....

[stiff oak]

When I switch to renoDRT, the screen noticeably turns gray, similar to the problematic HDR seen in some games

[frank heart]

use the grading options....

[stiff oak]

Alright, I just switched back to the old file to compare, and I'll switch again to adjust the settings and observe

The file from around 6/24,it's works properly

[frank heart]

vanilla/RenoDRT
today's build

Vanilla/RenoDRT (2025-06-24 build)

yeah he's supposed to use the color grading tools but he's not 😭

also

on a side note

do you notice the slight saturation loss

is that intended?

related to the color correction/hue corrections ETC also applying to kurotonemapping yeah?

yeah that's what i figured

[stiff oak]

I've identified the issue: in the older version, all sliders under Scene Grading were non-functional, but they work in the new version. The key difference is the 'Strength' parameter—adjusting it to 100% replicates the old version's behavior.

[frank heart]

good for you

i guess you can call that

suffering from success

cause the sliders actually work now

[autumn jetty]

fwhm is using a mod loader and DX11 though

[stiff oak]

Thanks, folks!
This version is performing great now.
I can confidently recommend it to other AMD users

[frank heart]

@autumn jetty mods can we have more emotes

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ai-cat-ai-gun-cat-gun-ai-gif-8974484528140508515

[autumn jetty]

btw

[frank heart]

Can they fix the game's performance too

Or make it even worse by adding path tracing

Thanks for all the work though

[umbral granite]

fix?

one does not simply 'fix' UE

Better get used to that MFG 4x

because that + 60FPS cap is the only way forward

[frank heart]

lupa's gacha animation

one shader in the gacha animation is clamping to UI

hmm

they broke something in this patch with carte's gacha animation

DLSS disables itself with her

actually probably two shader

one with the black and white impact frames

and one where it pans up

from her legs

do you have camellya then?

I'll grab the camellya shader, but it's probably shared between these characters

u can grab the lupa ones

im guessing the radia blur one is shared with camellya

camellya

nice

I'm back on my lg c2

and putting the same preset I made on my laptop

looks like there's too much contrast

this is what I get for making a preset on uncalibrated hardware

[peak geyser]

Couldn't you have just ran her trial while it was going?

Got ya.
Thanks for explaining. ^^

[frank heart]

dialed down contrast and upped shadows

going through all the resonator intros

to see if anywhere else is clamping now

looks like its only camellya and lupa
i dont have brant, zhezhi, Ciaconna, phoebe, roccia, zani though so whoever has them can try em out

[frank heart]

Nope

The entire intro

Until she opens her eye

Then it unclamps

So just an output shader like u said

[echo jackal]

white clip slider seems to be broken, i'm not seeing any differences at all in the histogram when adjust the slider now

ya it worked before

it would noticeably affect highlights

nope no effect at all

[echo jackal]

spiwar settings, saturation feels a bit overcooked here compared to vanilla

interesting, i recall it would increase highlights as i moved the slider closer to 0

good thing that was a cutscene so I can replicate the exact conditions, here's actual sdr with no rendox

saturation is very close to renodx vanilla/off

yeah sure i can retake with those

you want sdr and renodx vanilla comparison?

i have it on in engine.ini so it should be like for like comparison

your off looks really washed

mine is almost matched

my off looks identical to the vanilla screenshot above with the settings open

which is bt709

yeah not sure why yours is like that, i can't get mine to look like that

yup untouched in game sliders

found another minor anomaly, fade to white is borked, doesn't completely turn white

[peak geyser]

Just noticed now (been a while since I've used camellya) that her ultimate clamps.
Am using the last version of UE Reno from the Github.

[peak geyser]

Have run into this too. Happens on other transitions in the story. Not sure if that is intended or not.

[echo jackal]

had it on 180 there

true, although it doesn't explain the difference

[tough ember]

i'd imagine not, though i don't know why mathematically it's going to ~400 there

[echo jackal]

the transitions fade to full white, i just checked some random youtube playthrough

[peak geyser]

Smart. XD

[echo jackal]

time of day really messes with getting good comparison shots

it transitions too quickly

alright lemme move on from this cutscene then

[peak geyser]

Thought there was a chance that might be the case, which is why I figured I'd point that I was getting it too. ^^

[echo jackal]

oh i thought it just overrides it with the addon

wait is vanilla really vanilla

looks like the game tone mapper still affects vanilla/off output

[peak geyser]

Makes sense

[echo jackal]

i think that part is broken, when i set it off it looks the same as the last tonemapper i had it set to

with other tone mappers

[echo jackal]

same behavior after nuking my reshade ini

yeah latest reshade 6.5.1, tried no sk and same thing

gonna try clean engine.ini

no difference with clean engine.ini and no sk

ya loading the same reshade.ini

confirmed all my settings reset when i nuked it

[echo jackal]

going to be away from pc for a bit, will be back later

[peak geyser]

Should I switch to your version for WuWa? Or is it still pretty WiP?

[echo jackal]

worth it to swap over to wuwa addon, its much better than ue4 version

[peak geyser]

Can I copy over my settings or do I have to start over?

[echo jackal]

most likely will need to dial in your settings again as it'll look quite different

[peak geyser]

Fuuuuuuuuu....

[peak geyser]

It looks like my settings copied over. 🤷

Will do.
I'm not a color expert of any sort though so if "grading" or something is wrong, my normie ass probably won't be able to tell.

But if there are any standout bugs I'll call em out.

[peak geyser]

This your current best settings?

[echo jackal]

@tough ember any idea what's going on here? looks like the colors are way off from vanilla going from blue to orange hues when turning on reno

just checked this is what sdr looks like

aite lemme get that

hmm colors are still pretty off, can't get it close at all

[stiff oak]

have a similar concern.
The Vanilla/Off mode of the new addon has a completely different color tone compared to Renodrt, especially in the blue hues.
The difference is particularly noticeable in the sky background of the login interface.
When using BT.709 color gamut under Renodrt, the visual appearance significantly diverges from the native game graphics without Reshade.

[frank heart]

Yeah

Should be neutral sdr + a tiny bit more contrast

Colors are matched to sdr to be pretty punchy but not too overboard

[nocturne lava]

I'm trying it out now

[frank heart]

also whaty was going on here

https://tenor.com/view/fol-fortress-of-lies-fortressoflies-backreading-gif-1774355190762685787

[echo jackal]

was trying to run through story with updated settings, ended up doing more testing and finding issues instead

[frank heart]

looks like ur using 2.2 for the vanilla and BT.1886 for reno

both should match if you tryna compare

[nocturne lava]

That rec 2020 mode is

[echo jackal]

oh yeah missed that in the screenshot but i did check both

[frank heart]

it's intended though

the game is actually saturated in vanilla

if you look at how green they are

[echo jackal]

it is saturated but not so much that the skin turns pinkish, some locations it looks good, other places it looks too cooked

[frank heart]

if you look at stuff like the green grass and lupa's clothes /reds

it's not really the same

[frank heart]

you're not going to get a 100% match

if you want less reds

switch to ICtCP

it will have less saturated reds

but shorekeeper's blue/purple tones will become a bit off instead

its just a compromise to see whichever's close to SDR without compromising too much

[echo jackal]

yeah i get that it won't be a perfect match and haven't settled on my settings yet either, still trying to see what works best

[frank heart]

FYI

you can set blowout restoration to 0

if you want SDR blowout

[echo jackal]

yeah i played around a bit with that earlier too

[frank heart]

mine's probably the best to match the tones across the board

if you do too low sat

in avinoleum

the buildings will be pale

instead of yellow ish golden glow ish

[nocturne lava]

hmm

[echo jackal]

and then i ran into that area right above where the hue is completely different

so now its all up in the air again

😂

[frank heart]

I think for the area you mentioned

it's not the actual saturation

[nocturne lava]

pardon my copium night time settings

[frank heart]

its just the contrast

[frank heart]

you can do contrast 50 for SDR shadows/contrast

since that also affects the look

[echo jackal]

contrast doesn't affect the hues there

[nocturne lava]

Hmm I'm not sure what I think lol

[frank heart]

SDR / current preset

old preset

don't know why discord's acting up

[stiff oak]

Is it possible to implement a feature I envisioned?
Add RGB channel level sliders based on BT.2020, allowing adjustment of the sliders to limit saturation and shift hue,
so that skin tones don't become overly red and skies don't turn excessively green

[echo jackal]

don't think the sdr screenshot loaded

rip discord

[frank heart]

sdr / old / new

Although i'll probably use ICtCP now

It's probably safer

I dont think many would notice SK's being slightly out of wack

[echo jackal]

blue is def the most problematic to match from what i tested so far

[nocturne lava]

hrmmm

[frank heart]

I think it might just be

the mobiel version

looking like completely dogshit

[nocturne lava]

oh maybe the colors are shifted on mobile?

[echo jackal]

thats my thought too

[frank heart]

also

no ray tracing

[nocturne lava]

ah that's true too

[frank heart]

@echo jackal are you still getting issue with ur setup tied to UI nits

im playing thru the quest with my settings

it looks fine

[nocturne lava]

yeah I bet its rtgi lmao

[echo jackal]

haven't noticed any issues with UI stuff

[frank heart]

running thru the quest

[echo jackal]

this area is doomed, reno vs vanilla

[nocturne lava]

I like how we all rolled for lupa day 1

[echo jackal]

this is story lupa

[frank heart]

i hate her

I just rolled for her by accident

[nocturne lava]

oh lmao

[frank heart]

well

happy 10x free lupa accident

[echo jackal]

i'm saving for phrolova

[frank heart]

oh you mean this area

hmm

i haven't reached it yet

probably some

unique snowflake the game is doing

maybe something like

expedition 33 black and white cutscenes

[echo jackal]

ya its a cutscene style effect but even before that it was already griefed, this just made it even more obvious

the hue shift barely changed anything

[nocturne lava]

would a p3 one maybe be doable? might be a nice midpoint

[echo jackal]

tbh feels like the blue is less accurate, the lighting in the area should be more orange with the candles and stuff. maybe something custom they're doing in that location

[nocturne lava]

is that part as simple as putting the color primaries in or is it more complicated for you? I'd try it if you added it

[nocturne lava]

the blue gives it a more ghostly spooky vibe

ah, well no biggie if it's a bunch of work

[echo jackal]

yeah seems like camera based lighting changes here, also the white occlusion culling artifacts are really egregious here

ya i tried all the scene grading sliders but couldn't make it match at all, and if i did it would grief other areas

its just poor ue4 optimization, they have bad settings

not supposed to see the culling

so they prob went overboard making it too aggressive

what did they do here with these razor sharp shadows