✅RenoDX: MH Wilds

[zinc sapphire]

patch notes: https://info.monsterhunter.com/wilds/update/en-us/Ver.1.020.00.00.html

– DLSS4 and FSR4 is now supported for graphics upscaling. DLSS4 requires an NVIDIA RTX 5000 series or higher GPU, and FSR4 requires an AMD Radeon 9000 series or higher GPU.

– NVIDIA DLSS now supported for multi-frame generation in the frame generation graphics settings. If you are using an NVIDIA RTX 5000 series or higher, you can set the frame increase to 2-4 times, or to "NVIDIA DLSS Auto" which dynamically turns the frame generation function on or off depending on the load.

– The upscaling and frame generation settings in the graphics settings have been separated, so frame generation can now be set regardless of the upscaling setting. For example, with NVIDIA RTX 3000 hardware, you could potentially choose NVIDIA DLSS upscaling with AMD FSR frame generation, and other similar mixed settings.

maybe with a proper implementation it will not break fog effects etc

– Adjusted the amount of VRAM used with texture streaming, resulting in reduced overall VRAM usage.

– Fixed an issue where the Estimated VRAM Usage in the Display/Graphics settings was calculated lower than the actual value. (As a result, the estimated VRAM usage will appear higher, but thanks to a separate optimization, actual VRAM usage has been reduced, so the current minimum and recommended system requirements remain unchanged.)

– Fixed an issue where the VRAM usage displayed incorrect values for the Distant Shadow Quality option in Graphics settings.

[red temple]

so basically no actual performance fixes

[wintry shell]

very unlikely, there isn't anything different you have to do in order to implement the transformer model, it's just a model switch on the code.

NVIDIA will have to fix that with a new model, nothing game devs can do

[thin fjord]

presumably they didn't do it before because of the issues, one woul dhope they actually tested it. But I have no such faith in capcom.

[fading cape]

devs are like "no guys trust me that 10mb of vram you save is going to fix everything we promise"

it's insulting to even call what they did performance improvments

people be like "but there's no way to optimize it, its the engines fault" like what? optimize the engine then??

[trim tangle]

I suspect that they've optimized the game and engine as much as they can, and they're left at Capcom's and the playerbase's mercy :/

I cannot blame the devs ~ Capcom management gave them little choice I dare say

[fading cape]

there's always more optimizations

i mean jesus a barely optimized ue5 would be better

even ue4 would look better

it's really impressive how shitty of a engine it is

don't get me wrong the game looks fine imo after getting rid of the awful filters they force on you but not relative to the performance. if i'm getting this awful performance i'd expect the graphics fidelity to be wayyy better

i say all this with 156 hours in the game lol

[dense knot]

RE Engine is made to be backwards compatible with all previous titles, so any future updates should improve performance

They recently had a presentation on how they improved open world rendering since DD2

For a game that'd be updated for half a decade, going with RE engine is a great choice

[red temple]

that assumes old titles will get patches
which is not guaranteed, like at all

[dense knot]

MH Wilds will, because it's a live servicy game

[red temple]

yes and how often is it that the games base version is actually bumped up to a new version?
very rare

[dense knot]

They bumped up RE remakes

[red temple]

i doubt that would happen at all in this case

[dense knot]

And I think MH Wilds is their only live servicy game so it's different

I guess SF6 is live servicey too

[trim tangle]

Well... those are remakes, not updates to the same game?

[merry tartan]

Not like it was a new remake

[trim tangle]

Rerelease?

[red temple]

i really dont think they will upgrade the game engine the game is using

[trim tangle]

Might introduce new bugs, which requires time to test and fix

[dense knot]

The engine is built specifically to be backported

They have automated tests for all games with every engine update

The new FSR4 and FG/upscaling decoupling are probably engine side, so they're already updating it

[red temple]

That doesn’t mean they will spend the money and actually commit to a proper update

[fading cape]

Why would a engine need to be backwards compatible with previous titles? what does that even mean

[trim tangle]

Means that the game's current calls to engine code will just work

[trim tangle]

Hmmmm. Probably doing it piecemeal to fix bugs as they go?

[languid gyro]

i think special k's fps limiter broke with TU2

for anyone reading and using it to load renodx

[peak drum]

Is RenoDX borked with TU2? Tried my best to run it in a Gamescope session but Reno addon did no changes whatsoever no matter what sliders I'd move around (neither did it in a Wayland session, but I need Gamescope to play on controller). Normal effects do work on Reshade.
At the same time, the Hollow Knight addon works perfectly
(Also unfortunately banned for 24 hours ty Denuvo)

[tawdry spindle]

banned for Reshade/Reno?

[light crest]

Denuvo has an activation limit, can lock you out if you use them all iirc

[peak drum]

Changing Proton versions. Wilds won't ban your account but will lock your device out of the game for 24 hours if you fiddle too much with arguments and compatibility layers. After 24 hours you're fine to go again
This is Linux exclusive afaik

[zinc sapphire]

it happens on windows too, but MUCH harder to trigger

you can only do 5 (denuvo) activations per day

[zinc sapphire]

https://fixvx.com/MHStatusUpdates/status/1939617276677759340

Monster Hunter Status (@MHStatusUpdates)

Steam hunters!

With Title Update 2's arrival, we have resolved a previous issue where shader compilation during gameplay caused high CPU load and unstable performance.

Please be aware of the following when booting up the game after installing the latest update:

⚪ Shader compilation will occur upon initial launch when applying updates and will no longer occur during gameplay.
⚪ This process may take some time to complete.
⚪ There is no need to try deleting your shader cache files moving forward.

Thank you all for your patience.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 30, 2025, 9:29 AM

[merry tartan]

but will this happen if third party software mucks things up (renodx)

[scarlet fossil]

what needs to be updated? reframework?

or renodx

i cant test it myself atm

[zinc sapphire]

probably delete before adding renodx 🐸

it is too hot in my room, I don't want to try compiling shaders rn

[merry tartan]

I haven't played in months so idk lol

[shut violet]

I’m still HR lvl 4 or something haha

[fading cape]

"There is no need to try deleting your shader cache files moving forward."

[zinc sapphire]

1000h later

at least you took some nice screenshots

[fading cape]

you have 1000hrs?

[shut violet]

only 90 haha

[zinc sapphire]

90h

[zinc sapphire]

I'm also on 90h

but I'm also "done"

[fading cape]

sounds about right

i got like 150 and i 100% the game plus got more decorations and artisan weapons i could ever need

[shut violet]

I spent 40 hours in the character editor minigame

40 hours testing reno and 10 hours playing the game

[zinc sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[rustic bridge]

ok booting the game for new update

Monsters
Lagiacrus has been added and is available in an extra mission. To unlock the extra mission, you must be at least HR 31 and have had completed both the main mission "A World Turned Upside Down" and the side mission "Forest Doshaguma."
Tempered Lagiacrus has been added and will appear when you are HR 41+ after completing the Lagiacrus extra mission.
Seregios has been added and is available in an extra mission. To unlock the extra mission, you must be at least HR 31 and have had completed the main mission "A World Turned Upside Down."
Tempered Seregios has been added and will appear when you are HR 41+ after completing the Seregios extra mission.
Arch-tempered Uth Duna has been added. (It will be made available in a future Event Quest.)
Tempered monsters will now appear in monster herds.```

compiling shaders sux :/

and i haven't installed the new amd drivers 25.6.3

1st crash lol

i can't play the game, it keeps crashing

holy moly, it's still crashing even with all injectors disabled. Not in the mood to clean install new driers and recompiling shaders tonight

[meager tendon]

Yea can't launch either

rip

[fading cape]

so this was literally a lie

[shut violet]

no crashing with Nvidia 572.83 so far

[fading cape]

why would they say that

[shut violet]

the performance is worse tho

[fading cape]

I initially launched on the older reshade and had no issues

I changed to the recent one and the game was stuttering so long i thought it was about to crash

[shut violet]

the game is like 15% more heavy on the GPU with the new update

[fading cape]

i had to recompile my shaders and now everything fine

[shut violet]

not sure why

[fading cape]

idk im getting like 130-160 fps rn

[shut violet]

it feels smoother and the dlc texture pack works fine now

but the GPU is taxed a lot more

ah lol my bad

the game switched back to GPU decompression

[fading cape]

okay like 60-80 fps on high settings rt included no more fg

honestly better than i remember

[shut violet]

switching to CPU decompression helps

I will test with decompressed textures

but it looks fine, the DLC texture pack does no cause stutter spikes or high GPU/CPU usage anymore

[tawdry spindle]

it does for me in the big hubs, but much better than before

[shut violet]

I switched to CPU decompression and it's fine now

[fading cape]

not even bothering with 4k textures they still suck either way

[shut violet]

but I'm using a 9800x3D

[shut violet]

yea the textures look hilariously bad at times

[fading cape]

ah finally layered weapons

[shut violet]

I knew that waiting was a good idea

[fading cape]

now i actually gotta farm the weapons i was using for the mod before lol

nvm already had the parts

i do have a reason to grind for all the weapons now

15gb of vram used

[shut violet]

it stops at around 13gb on my end so far

but I had to close the browser which was using up 1 gb

[merry tartan]

kinda figured this would be the case, system only good enough if you don't use mods

thanks for confirming that lol

[shut violet]

yea I deleted the shader cache too

so the DLC texture pack was changed and now we have a pak.patch_006 file too

[fading cape]

more paks hurray

[shut violet]

decompressing all texture pack is probably still a good idea

[fading cape]

yeah i might need too

15gb

whats the reframework keybind again?

[shut violet]

insert

[fading cape]

its just pulling up a menu

was this not a thing before

even in menu its not working is it for you?

[shut violet]

it's working fine everywhere

[fading cape]

i mean im literally pressing the inset and it does show insert when i relog

[shut violet]

are you sure that REF is actually injected?

[fading cape]

i see the menu showing to press insert when i login

[shut violet]

ah ok

[fading cape]

so ref is running

[shut violet]

the uncompressed dlc texture pack is 132gb now

[fading cape]

what was it before

[shut violet]

around 110 I think

[fading cape]

tf

[shut violet]

the decompressed textures alone take up ~155gb now xD

[fading cape]

yet another reason im not using 4k textures

[shut violet]

ok the game is a lot smoother with decompressed textures

the game is not longer using the CPU/GPU for decompression

[trim tangle]

It's a GPU driver issue, not a game issue, by the sounds of it.

[lime temple]

on the topic of dlc texture decomp, how do you guys do it? cuz chosing true for both the options and replacing the file doesn't work correctly

[zinc sapphire]

maybe your game was CPU limited before, so now the GPU can actually do something?

(yes the game is even CPU limited on a 9800x3d, I have one too)

(ot at least it was before when compiling shaders in the background)

[shut violet]

it was GPU limited

FPS went down 😄

I locked the framerate to 60

and I was only getting around 50 in town

and 100% GPU usage

it’s locked 60fps, 75-85% GPU usage with the textures decompressed

[zinc sapphire]

don't you have a 4090/5090?

[shut violet]

4080 😅

[zinc sapphire]

ohhh

I'm on a 5080 (with a slight OC) so kinda the same GPU

and same CPU

[shut violet]

Nah the 5080 is a lot faster than the 4080 in Wilds

[zinc sapphire]

haven't tried the update yet, too warm to play something like this 🥵

[zinc sapphire]

oh ok, well I do also OC which gives ~10% perf iirc

it has a lot of OC headroom out of the box

[shut violet]

The game runs fine on the 4080 tho, no issues

[zinc sapphire]

and I have the best cooler (I got the MSI Suprim SOC which has the same cooler as the 5090 version lol)

yeah I locked it to 60fps and it keeps it

as long as I use uncompressed textures with 4k dlc

if I don't uncompress I have VRAM issues

or I had... as I said didn't try the update

[shut violet]

yea its a nice card, a little too power hungry for my sff case but its a good card, the problem is the price 😅

I sold 6 5080s If i remember correctly lol

[zinc sapphire]

yeah for sure, the price was kinda insane, but... I had a 10GB 3080 and I wanted to play MHW

[shut violet]

yea its surprisingly good in MHW, i wonder why, the gap between the 4080 and 5080 is not that huge in other games

I have the suprim X version of the 4080 too

[zinc sapphire]

ah nice

[shut violet]

4090 cooler and It’s in an SFF case. Temps and noise are no issues

[zinc sapphire]

the 5080 is 2614g

it is crazy

but I never hear the fans (always at max 30%) and GPU even in this summer heat is under 60

[shut violet]

the 4080 is “only” 2364

[zinc sapphire]

:D

[shut violet]

The suprim x 5080 did not fit inside my case

and it was running hotter than the 4080 so I sold it

I’m waiting for a more efficient generation

My undervolted 4080 barely uses 220w under load lol

[zinc sapphire]

the 5080 is the most efficient gpu currently

at least according to gamers nexus

[shut violet]

nah the 4090

[zinc sapphire]

nope

[shut violet]

it depends on the game/usecase I guess

in games where the 5080 is close to the 4090 in perf then yea its more efficient for sure

I want something which tops at 250-300w and with better performance than the 4090

[zinc sapphire]

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9u3UPkqp_0

[zinc sapphire]

yep, I will probably play around with power limits for some games

maybe not in the winter as much, but now in the summer I need all the help

I already disable boost on the CPU lol

9800x3d is fast enough for 120fps in POE without boost, so that is fine

[shut violet]

we need someone to test the undervolting potential too, but the 5080 would probably top that chart

[zinc sapphire]

are there any youtubers or w/e that look into that?

[shut violet]

the 4080/5080 are very close, which kinda means that there was no real generational uplift :/

[trim tangle]

They use nodes that are almost identical, so yeah...

[shut violet]

there are no in-depth tests/reviews afaik

[shut violet]

yea… The next gen was not ready, but they had to release something

[zinc sapphire]

should have bought a 4090 before they stopped producing them

[shut violet]

yea I wanted to get one too

But it was too power hungry for my “special” silent build so I was like “nah” let’s wait for the 5080😅

[trim tangle]

They didn't have to release anything for consumers

Nvidia was just greedy, given that their only marketing point was "omfg, look, we have multi-frame generation hype!1!1!"

[shut violet]

The 4080 is barely good enough for 4k gaming with dlss. I switched to 3840x1600 for a lot of games now which helps, but it’s not ideal

[shut violet]

yea true, but I guess they dit not want to skip another 1-2 years

we should move to #💬chat btw 😅

[trim tangle]

Nvidia has done it before ~ given the reception 5000 series has received, I think people might not have cared.

[peak drum]

Ight so I managed to get controller + MP working with gamescope and proton-cachyos-slr
... Anyone managed to get RenoDX working though on gamescope? No matter if I choose Vanilla+ or Filmic, nothing happens. Normal Reshade effects do work, but the RenoDX addon does absolutely nothing. HDR is on and in-game settings are on default (if that even matters if they're overriden anyway)

[trim tangle]

Do you have Gamescope set up properly? I run it from vt:

gamescope --output-width 2560 --output-height 1440 --nested-width 2560 --nested-height 1440 --nested-refresh 120 --rt --steam --hdr-enabled --sdr-gamut-wideness 1 --hdr-sdr-content-nits 450 --immediate-flips -- steam -gamepadui -pipewire-dmabuf

Then add the necessary variables in Steam game options

[peak drum]

I'll try my best to figure out what everything does and fix my arguments, so far I was only using

DXIL_SPIRV_CONFIG=wmma_rdna3_workaround PROTON_FSR4_UPGRADE=1 game-performance gamescope -W 3440 -H 1440 -r 165 -f --hdr-enabled -- %command%

[fading cape]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[peak drum]

GOT IT!

/WineDetectionEnabled:False

at the end, and RenoDX works wonders. INSANE that I have to forbid the game from detecting Wine in order to get access to Raytracing and let the addon hook properly. Imagine paying for a product and being able to use its whole features without inhuman amounts of tweaks.

[shut violet]

Welcome to linux

[peak drum]

I mean mostly annoying that Hollow Knight worked instantly, the only issue I had was a HDR calibration problem on my part. Some games just make it hard.

[shut violet]

Linux is mostly great, but it can be really annoying sometimes

I still prefer windows for gaming

Modding on Linux is especially annoying lol

[trim tangle]

In this case, it's Capcom making an insane decision to check for Wine, for... reasons unexplained.

[shut violet]

Thats so weird yea

[trim tangle]

What's worse is that disabling the detection just makes everything work without issue, making it even more questionable.
It's like... it exists just to break stuff on Proton / Wine / Linux, and no-one at Capcom seems to care to check.
It's just baffling.

Top-tier programming

[peak drum]

This reminds me of Wuthering Waves not allowing 120FPS and Raytracing options unless you have whatever software - I had to look online and get some fixes for my girlfriend who was 60FPS locked. Insanity
And many other games just either not clicking the button to make the games compatible with Linux (Unity games I think have that option) or specifically blacklisting Linux (Lost Ark used to work no issues, but then they blacklisted Linux from their anticheat afaik)

[peak drum]

OH another HILARIOUS case is Hotel Marriott's website blocking Linux users from viewing any prices - they probably think if you run Linux you're automatically a hacker OMEGALUL

[leaden elbow]

should prolly wait for a 5080ti with at least 24gb vram

[lime temple]

anyone else's game spazzing out in the forest in terms of exposure? dunno if its renodx or disable post processing or something else

[merry tartan]

the update to latest framegen would cause flickering issues

most likely anyway

[lime temple]

dont use framegen. we 30fps gaming

[merry tartan]

I actually booted the game up and didn't see the usual new framegen issues. Idk why that would be so surely it crops up sometime...

I don't think it was fixed

[thin fjord]

Has anyone tried dlss 4, does the native implementation have the volumetric issues?

[merry tartan]

same issues yeah

[dense knot]

We're adjusting the native HDR

[shut violet]

nah, 6080 maybe

[zinc sapphire]

...

guess we will have to wait for a newer release from nvidia that fixes it instead

[trim tangle]

... how do you break volumetrics? Upscaler shenanigans? 🐸

[zinc sapphire]

well they do work

it just "breaks"

@thin fjord made some good videos showing it

@trim tangle

see this example

after climbing up

this is the typical result for the fogs with the new model

and why I just use the old model

[trim tangle]

Ah, yeah, it's much easier to understand seeing it in action

[merry tartan]

Oh I thought this was a problem with that too…

[merry tartan]

I'm stupid, I already knew this wasn't a problem. Bad memory.

[trim tangle]

Alas, it seems like the shader compilation screen isn't forced in all scenarios ~ like with RenoDX :|

Cool

Back we go to nuking shader caches...

[zinc sapphire]

we should not expect it to work for something like that

that being said at least it is fast if it already has shaders cached

(at least on windows it is, where nvidia cached shaders are in a separate directory)

[trim tangle]

It's like this on Linux too ~ Mesa has its own shader cache, so that speeds things up.
(I finally disabled Steam's precompiled shaders again, because they download 1.8GB almost every second day, and then take 10 minutes to process each time...)

[halcyon kernel]

When I use Filmic preset, everything become very dark, and all colors seems totally wrong, for vanilla+, it seems overexposed. How should I fix this?

[trim tangle]

You've tweaked the peak brightness value to match your monitor, right?

[halcyon kernel]

yes, 800 for LG C5

[merry tartan]

Is vanilla more or less contrasty than the games normal HDR?

[halcyon kernel]

more contrasty, more saturation

[merry tartan]

Okay well sounds like it’s working right. This mod was mostly about making the game subjectively look better. To do that, we changed how the games tonemapper works for SDR, amongst other things. So there is no true vanilla mode with this mod (base game hdr isn’t too bad in terms of how it compares to SDR).

If you want it to be a bit less of how we tuned it, just drop saturation to like 43 and drop contrast to like 45 or so.

Filmic preset is a completely different beast, we’re changing all kinds of things with that (I think their color grading looks bad most of the time).

[shut violet]

my preset is pretty close to vanilla 😄

[halcyon kernel]

Is this vanilla+ your preset?

[shut violet]

no

this one

[halcyon kernel]

I don’t know, but for me, filmic preset looks like SDR, it doesn’t look like a HDR, very low contrast y and saturation.

[halcyon kernel]

Thank you, I’ll try

[shut violet]

that's strange

[halcyon kernel]

I’ll put a screenshot here later

[merry tartan]

Can you post screenshots?

🤐

[halcyon kernel]

Still at work

[halcyon kernel]

vanilla+/filmic

both peak brightness 800

[shut violet]

filmic being darker is normal

But I can't check them on an HDR display atm

[halcyon kernel]

On start screen, filmic looks very different from in game, not that dark. Is it normal?

[shut violet]

yes because filmic uses Pre Grade LUT Exposure

it looks bad in cutscenes

[halcyon kernel]

In cutscenes, if there’s light straight to characters, skin looks very bright, like overexposed. In Vanilla+

[shut violet]

I'm not a huge fan of the Vanilla+ preset either, but filmic with pre grade is broken in cutscenes

it looks good in gameplay tho

[robust phoenix]

hey, any update?

uypdates* since tu2

[light crest]

Well it's not broken

[peak drum]

might also be broken in the tent but not sure if that's general or a me on Linux issue
everything is extremely dark so it's hard to choose layered armours lol

[peak drum]

I did try your preset, looks satisfying and fixed the tent 😄

This should be Filmic with only my 1000 nit approx settings in Tone Mapping

Yeah it's Post Grade that makes it dark af

Could be Wine on Linux shenanigans that changes things, idk
Already had problems until I hid Wine through launch arguments, the addon wouldn't want to hook at all (and raytracing was disabled), normal Reshade was working fine

[merry tartan]

Filmic is ultimately a very hacky setup. We’re bypassing their local exposure stuff (cause it tries its hardest to make everything on screen very bright). Because the game wasn’t really designed for that, it has some knock on effects depending on the scene that aren’t always desirable. A lot of the time, cutscenes struggle (sometimes they look basically the same though, just depends on the exposure value used).

Ultimately it’s a gameplay first setup that’s only gonna be desirable if you think the game is both too bright and also graded poorly.

It uses the “real” color of the game so to speak

[shut violet]

yea, and it's the exposure type that is "fixed" in the tent

the game uses vanilla exposure everywhere BUT in a few locations like the tent

[shut violet]

the "correct" setting is Post Grade if you want it to look like the vanilla game

[shut violet]

I think Pre Grade and fixed exposure look better for gameplay

but cutscenes look weird yea

[halcyon kernel]

Do you have hdr device to check my screenshots to see if they’re normal? Thank you

[shut violet]

oh I can check them now

it looks normal

[merry tartan]

On phone so I can’t judge well

I trust mpaul though lol

The plains literally always look weird to me tbh. No good setup there, just a very ugly area imo.

[shut violet]

yea it's a lot darker compared to the vanilla+ preset but the highlights are bright

the highlight contrast is greater

@halcyon kernel Vanilla/My preset/Vanilla+/Filmic

this is a bettter location to test

filmic looks really good when the location is supposed to be dark, but it's not that great when it's supposed to be bright like the plains

highlights looks superior with filmic because of the fixed exposure and pre grade settings

filmic vs vanilla+ heat maps

I like my preset because it does not change the intended look/art direction, it just "fixes" the over exposed base vanilla look

Vanilla+ is more contrasty

[halcyon kernel]

Can’t believe my filmic is right, maybe it’s because I used to hunt at daytime not night, so filmic is always strange to me.

[shut violet]

Hmm I will check the same location with filmic sec

but I think the plains look like that with filmic

I will have to wait for the sun to rise

it's so stupid that you have to complete the main quest to ahve access to the "rest" function

@halcyon kernel Vanilla+ vs Filmic

it's the same at night too

if you don't like how it looks but you want to keep using filmic then increase exposure

Filmic is a lot more realistic looking and the highlights pop a lot more

[halcyon kernel]

Okay, so it is confirmed that my filmic is right

I just prefer how the game originally looks like, not a big fan of changing a lot.

[shut violet]

filmic vs filmic with increased exp/contrast

[shut violet]

I'm the same that's why I like using my preset haha 😄

[halcyon kernel]

Yeah your preset suits my taste well.

[shut violet]

Normal Vanilla vs My Preset

[robust phoenix]

fellas, are you guys noticing artifacts in the sandstorm on the planes after the dlss swap?

[thin fjord]

yes well reported issue with model k

use nvidia app to switch to DLSS preset E if you can't live with it.

[robust phoenix]

i see, is preset E much worse?

[thin fjord]

Blurrier image but little to no artifacts

J is an middle point

[robust phoenix]

i se

[dense knot]

@merry tartan Random thought, but the black level raise and shit is coming from their tonemapper not their luts so we could adjust blacklevelcorrection to work on the tonemapper

Currently we're manually adjusting the tonemapper values

[merry tartan]

I haven’t worked on a game that really needed black level correction, so I’ve got no clue what options are available outside of lut scaling lol

I’m down to experiment more with this if you want to though, I definitely think the mod can be improved

[dense knot]

Well fuck, now this is gonna bother me till I try it

[merry tartan]

lol

Something that can more organically fix their own tonemapper would be ideal

[shut violet]

use RCAS with preset E

the RCAS slider in RenoDX

or you can use OptiScaler's RCAS, which is more customizable than the RCAS shader in Reno

[dense knot]

Mandatory "this game ugly af"

[trim tangle]

The grey filter is indeed butt-ugly

[robust phoenix]

Man, i would pay for a mod that increases the ammount of blood/dust on hit so i can turn off numbers.

[dense knot]

Doesn't work, vanillaSDRTonemapper doesn't have black raise

[rare stream]

First of all: Thank you!
Second: What the f...

Either this was the piece that I was missing last time or other things were fixed but now RenoDX is working and looking sooo gooooood 🙂

[peak drum]

If you have problems with controller as well, check protondb for my report it's pretty long to make all the shenanigans work

[scenic carbon]

agreed. Would be like old mh games with more blood when hitting a weak spot

[trim tangle]

It's stupid that someone has to figure out nonsense like this just to have a game behave normally

[peak drum]

I'm mostly annoyed at locking features behind hardware without disclosing it very clearly when buying
WUWA is F2P but I had to mod 120FPS lock into the game cause ofc they didn't find her RTX 3060 worthy of it so her max option was 60 FPS lock. Stupid, like Wilds with the Wine detection
I might cope but I believe if SKG gets even a slightly good outcome in the EU law, consumer voices will be more powerful than ever, and with indie gaming booming as well, the future just looks good compared to a couple years ago

[zinc sapphire]

quick question: since the new update should we still decompress textures? or is it much better now by default?

I assume the answer will be "yes decompress is still better"?

[trim tangle]

Always will be, because you avoid any load on the CPU and GPU 🐸

We should just presume that Wilds is forever-frogged when it comes to its DirectStorage implementation

[zinc sapphire]

is this true?

or user error?

[trim tangle]

I have no idea. Didn't run into that error on Linux, at least.

[zinc sapphire]

I guess I will just try w/o first, I just want locked 60fps when I spin :D

[trim tangle]

Running it through Proton, I mean

I'd assume that the file itself was corrupted somehow.

[zinc sapphire]

I need to use windows, the performance hit is too large

it is fine for most games, but not this one

[trim tangle]

Nvidia memes? 👀

[shut violet]

yes you should

it's better but still not great

you either taxing the CPU or the GPU if you keep them compressed

decompressing the textures gets rid of the erratic GPU usage spikes

which was improved but not eliminated with the patch

but if you got a 4090 or 5090 and you meet the FPS target then you can keep them compressed to save space

or a 5080 actually which is just as fast as a 4090 in this game

[zinc sapphire]

5080 yea

[shut violet]

if you have space then decompress them

imo

[trim tangle]

Indeed...

The DLC is hardlinked, but it's still ~165GB...

[zinc sapphire]

compressed it is already 155gb lol

[trim tangle]

100GB compressed
165GB decompressed

For textures

Pretty chunky

[robust phoenix]

fellas, what preset is best in yall's opinion? i have a lg c4, its standardly calibrated(filmaker mode).

[zinc sapphire]

w/o DLC?

because it is ~156GB

[trim tangle]

Totaling the paks that have the textures in them, I mean, including the DLC

[zinc sapphire]

oh I just checked the size of the game dir

anyway compiling shaders now

this really is a lot slower than before

but I prefer that

this would probably take 30min on Linux lnao

(with Nvidia)

[trim tangle]

Even with ParallelBuildProcessorCount=<cpu threads>?

[zinc sapphire]

oh that works?

because the game liked to use 3 threads by default

didn't know you could change that

in that case probably not 30min

[trim tangle]

It seems faster than the default, at least. :|

Also use RenderWorkerThreadPriorityAboveNormal=Enable

[zinc sapphire]

holy shit

they fixed the game

I can spin the camera and hold 60fps

without decompress

and I don't run out of vram

[trim tangle]

... you were running of VRAM? 😓

[zinc sapphire]

yes

oh no

they are using transformer model

out of the box

can I change that somewhere in game?

looks terrible on fog

of course

[trim tangle]

If you're using DirectStorage proper, this mod is useful: https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/1923
Also: https://www.nuget.org/packages/Microsoft.Direct3D.DirectStorage

1.3.0 exists now!

[zinc sapphire]

I need to change dlss model

much more important

annoying

[trim tangle]

Can't you change that with DLSS Swapper, if I recall?

[zinc sapphire]

I think I'm still gonna decompress I think

[zinc sapphire]

yeah you can use Nvidia app too

or special K

I just hoped they have an option

like cyberpunk

[trim tangle]

Nope, nothing natively. It's all third-party hacks, alas.

(Well, they do now at least offer DLSS4 and FSR4 via driver whitelisting...)

[zinc sapphire]

time to read up what I need to decompress again :D

[trim tangle]

Stutter heaven again?

[zinc sapphire]

no, but I see some small spikes in oil basin

which will probably be gone uncompressed

no stutter at all

but it can be better!

got 400gb free, so it is fine

just need to read up which files to decompress

[trim tangle]

re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_002.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_004.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_006.pak
dlc/re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak

Decompress with true/true and rename the originals.

[zinc sapphire]

wasn't it false/true for dlc when you do hardlink?

[trim tangle]

Hardlink dlc/re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak to re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_008.pak

[trim tangle]

No, true/true

[zinc sapphire]

I feel like something is wrong, because I used true/true not on all files

[trim tangle]

That's only if you're not replacing the main files, and instead are just adding decompressed as patches on top

But that was just confusing to deal with

[zinc sapphire]

I want to do the one where I have backup files

because slow internet

for when patches release :D

[trim tangle]

Mod Organizer helps with that

Virtual folders, with game files untouched

[zinc sapphire]

link

[trim tangle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/951

[zinc sapphire]

I got that

mod org bla

brb

[trim tangle]

https://github.com/ModOrganizer2/modorganizer

Ah, also, you'll need REFramework to avoid the game spitting the dummy due to Pak encryption nonsense

https://github.com/praydog/REFramework-nightly/releases

[zinc sapphire]

yeah got that

I think renodx doesn't even work w/ ref

[trim tangle]

You're thinking of Reshade

[zinc sapphire]

MO2 supports MH Wilds?

doesn't mention it on the github

[trim tangle]

Reshade still needs REFramework to even load

[trim tangle]

It has basic game support

[zinc sapphire]

ok

[trim tangle]

Which is perfectly fine, actually

(No script merging madness like Witcher 3 has, dear lord...)

[zinc sapphire]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/993 I guess there is?

fuck it

I just gonna do it how I did it before

my way works fine :P

[trim tangle]

Oh, right, I remember now ~ I copied to basic game support thing for Monster Hunter World Rise, and just renamed stuff

Then MO2 just worked

[zinc sapphire]

it is ok I'll do it w/o all of this

I don't need mods

I just do how I did it before

[trim tangle]

If you don't need mods, it works okay ~ unless the game wants to update and overwrite your decompressed paks 💀

Anyways Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins/basic_games/games/game_monsterhunterwilds.py

from ..basic_game import BasicGame


class MonsterHunterWildsGame(BasicGame):
    Name = "Monster Hunter: Wilds Support Plugin"
    Author = "Valmar33"
    Version = "1.0.0"

    GameName = "Monster Hunter: Wilds"
    GameShortName = "monsterhunterwilds"
    GameBinary = "MonsterHunterWilds.exe"
    GameDataPath = "%GAME_PATH%"
    GameSaveExtension = "bin"
    GameNexusId = 6993
    GameSteamId = 2246340

Boom, just works

[zinc sapphire]

ok that works

now what @trim tangle?

[trim tangle]

Start MO2. Make MO2 profile. Create empty mods, and throw relevant files in each.
Decompress texture paks, and move them into an empty mod, name as appropriate.
Enable... play game? Has to be started within MO2, obviously.

[zinc sapphire]

do I not need to create virtual bla?

[trim tangle]

MO2 automates that for you

It's, like, it's whole thing

[zinc sapphire]

confusing

do I decompress here C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\MonsterHunterWilds? or somewhere else

I don't get it

like what is the point if I do it there?

I feel like I would already be playing for 1h if I just ignored this all

[trim tangle]

You have to mod the files into a virtual folder in your MO2 profile

Then MO2 automatically finds it

[zinc sapphire]

see this is what I don't get

how

[trim tangle]

You saw my screenshot, right? 🍩+🐸

[zinc sapphire]

sure

no idea what I am looking at

just tell me what to do 🐸

[trim tangle]

Create profile, then create an empty folder in mods, name however

[zinc sapphire]

don't expect I understand anything about this

[trim tangle]

Well, first start MO2 and create a profile ~ put it on an SSD... for obvious reasons

[zinc sapphire]

ok found it

C:\Users\Strudel\AppData\Local\ModOrganizer\Monster Hunter Wilds\mods\uncompressed textures

[trim tangle]

With enough space for the decompressed textures!

[zinc sapphire]

yeah I found that

[trim tangle]

Oh, that's what you wanted. Oops.

[zinc sapphire]

I wanted that?

I just did what you told me

[trim tangle]

Just Windows things...

[zinc sapphire]

create empty mod

right click open in explorer

[trim tangle]

Decompress the texture paks, and put them there

Rename to match the original file names, as MO2 will then override them with the ones from the virtual folder

This is the bane of experience... you forget what it's like being a beginner :(

[zinc sapphire]

is this how it looks normally?

or did I decompress in the past

and did not remove

I guess I can check steamdb

[trim tangle]

Looks like compressed

[zinc sapphire]

says steamdb

[trim tangle]

Yeah, they look compressed still

[zinc sapphire]

ok good

[trim tangle]

Just touch the sub patch files

They're the only ones with textures

[zinc sapphire]

so I decompress:

re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_002.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_004.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_006.pak
dlc/re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak

ok

and the other ones

you didn't post all

it seems

there are more

[trim tangle]

No textures

[zinc sapphire]

there are 8 sub files

w/o dlc

[trim tangle]

144b files are pointless

[zinc sapphire]

[trim tangle]

re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_008.pak is just hardlinked dlc/re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak

Game gets a bit weird without it with decompressed textures. No idea why, but that's the cludgy fix.

[zinc sapphire]

ok so now I just put the compressed files in the mo2 folder from before

and rename them to the same

and it replaces them when I launch the game from mo2?

I guess I get it now

[trim tangle]

Yep :)

[zinc sapphire]

and I don't need to make a hardlink either?

[trim tangle]

You still need to do that ~ within the virtual folder

[zinc sapphire]

ah ok

mklink /h re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_008.pak dlc\re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak I think was the command for windows

[trim tangle]

Yea

[zinc sapphire]

alright

(I did all because why not)

looks nicer

[trim tangle]

🐸

[zinc sapphire]

ok so I check this

[trim tangle]

REFramework?

[zinc sapphire]

I already have that installed

[trim tangle]

Moment of truth? 👀

[zinc sapphire]

well I need to first figure out how to make special k

launch it

one moment

[trim tangle]

Add SpecialK as an exe in MO2, I would guess?

Or can SpecialK just inject itself as normal?

[zinc sapphire]

nah

"C:\Modding\MO2\ModOrganizer.exe" "moshortcut://Monster Hunter Wilds:Monster Hunter: Wilds" %command%

in steam

and then launch game from SKIF

that might work

:D

well I think it works

it spawned a lot of terminals Oo

but it loaded

ok i still is spawning

something is wrong

it shows and goes away

and repeats forever

I probably did something wrong

[trim tangle]

Wow

[zinc sapphire]

@ebon tide any idea what I'm doing wrong?

I got the idea from you

[trim tangle]

Hmmmm ~ can you run MO2 through SKIF?

[zinc sapphire]

i'm trying mo2 w/o SK first

[trim tangle]

Ah. Should just... work? 🤔

[zinc sapphire]

w/o SK it works fine

[ebon tide]

uhmm idk

it worked for me on mh world

didn't have that

[zinc sapphire]

let me check resource manager to see if it actually works

game is stuttering like crazy

but it is reading it

[trim tangle]

Shader compilation?

[zinc sapphire]

maybe I need to do the shader comp new yeah

probably that

it is reading the correct files at least

lemme delete shader cache hehe

at least it works

will fix SK after....

[trim tangle]

ShaderWarmingNotifier.lua

local vrR = sdk.get_native_singleton("via.render.Renderer")
local vrR_typedef = sdk.find_type_definition("via.render.Renderer")
re.on_draw_ui(function()
local text = sdk.call_native_func(vrR, vrR_typedef, "get_RemainingShaderWarming()")
imgui.button("Shaders:" .. tostring(text))
end)

Nice script to use...

[zinc sapphire]

hehe

[trim tangle]

Simple, yet highly effective

[zinc sapphire]

already compiling

[trim tangle]

MH Wilds do be wild with the shader stutter and (compressed) texture loading stutter 🤰

AAA game

[zinc sapphire]

ah that is my issue @ebon tide even has a video

at ~32sec

Exclude usvfs_proxy_x86.exe and usvfs_proxy_x64.exe in SKIF

Exclude steam.exe, SKIF.exe in MO2s VFS Blacklist.

Make sure MO2 is not running as Admin.

And the Issue is gone.

https://github.com/ModOrganizer2/modorganizer/issues/1977

yeah not working

well thanks for nothing valmar

[trim tangle]

How nice

SpecialK is a bit of a weird program, anyways...

A very opinionated swiss army nice

[trim tangle]

Do you really need SpecialK for Wilds? 🤔

[zinc sapphire]

I don't fucking know

haven't played in forever

and instead of just doing what I did before I'm modding for nothing

[trim tangle]

Try without. I get by just fine. 🐸

[zinc sapphire]

I think I will just remove mo2

and do what I did before

[ebon tide]

doesn't sk fix all the stuttering and framepacing issues ?

[zinc sapphire]

this is fucking stupid

[trim tangle]

Nope...

[zinc sapphire]

thanks for trying, but I'm gonna do what I should have done from the start :D

[trim tangle]

REFramework does more to fix Wilds than SpecialK ever did, I dare say

[trim tangle]

That is, plodding along with muscle memory 🤰

[zinc sapphire]

replaced all files

did hardlink and done

so much easier :)

before I start I need to disable transformer shit model

ok nvidia app has support for the game good

now I just need to remember which Preset it was

probably F?

J and K was shit

[shut violet]

why are you guys doing this the hard way?

[zinc sapphire]

I'm dumb and listened to a linux user

now I'm doing it the easy way

[shut violet]

haha

[zinc sapphire]

I think wilds used preset E before

but I'm not 100% sure

[shut violet]

it was E yea

[zinc sapphire]

thanks!

[shut violet]

E is also faster by 10%

so it's a win-win

[thin fjord]

E works best for me

[zinc sapphire]

thanks, I was using it until I stopped now

[green jackal]

F for CNN DLSS Ultraperformance and DLAA, E for the others

[zinc sapphire]

thanks

[zinc sapphire]

LAGI fight was peak

HDR looked great as well

[zinc sapphire]

I watch a clip on discord (second screen, SDR) and now the game is washed out

I guess I need to restart

never had that before

I bet it was Special K somehow

[shut violet]

strange

[merry veldt]

I'm trying to get renodx working on linux however I have to deal with the dreaded sliders not doing anything tried both in native wayland and gamescope

[zinc sapphire]

probably their wine detection

try ... %command% /WineDetectionEnabled:False

by default that is True and will break HDR and RT iirc

maybe you also need DXVK_HDR=1, unsure. /WineDetectionEnabled:False is needed for sure.

[merry veldt]

is there a way to make that wine detection command work with my enable disable hdr script?

like this is what I use /home/Username/./hdr-toggle.sh; gamemoderun PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_ENABLE_HDR=1 %command%; /home/Username/./hdr-toggle.sh

whelp the winedetection command made it work but now the game whines about not being on an SSD when it's on a nvme >_>

and yeah works in native wayland

and I assume the only way to get gamepad working in the game and HDR at the same time is big picture?

[zinc sapphire]

/home/Username/./hdr-toggle.sh; gamemoderun PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_ENABLE_HDR=1 %command% /WineDetectionEnabled:False; /home/Username/./hdr-toggle.sh

like this I guess

[merry veldt]

I just tried that before you replied >_>

[zinc sapphire]

yeah that doesn't matter, the game's detection code is dumb, you can ignore that

or what they use is not supported in wine I guess

[merry veldt]

yeah the game has issues bigtime

still alot of fun

[zinc sapphire]

for sure

[merry veldt]

my number 2 modern MH game after rise

[zinc sapphire]

world is still the king for me

with this mod: https://github.com/AsteriskAmpersand/Ice-Stable

(but that is more for people that played the game before)

[merry veldt]

oh that mod

anything that makes crutch claw optional is great

[zinc sapphire]

for sure

that was such a bad change from vanilla to iceborne

[merry veldt]

I just can't get back into world unlike going back to GU

oh yeah time to re-enable fsr4 since I won't be using the reshade shaders now sapping fps

[trim tangle]

If you're running through Gamescope, you do need DXVK_HDR=1, as it's not enabled by default

[trim tangle]

I'm just sad it doesn't work with the high res texture pack :(

There are a bunch of mods that do effectively the same thing, though

Cutscene Skip 1.0
Anti-claw HZV revamp
Base MHWorld Hitzone Value
Remove Clagger (Target ver.15.10.00)
Armor Skill Fixes - Weakness Exploit Maximum Might and Fortify

[zinc sapphire]

yeah but these mods are a bit iffy if you want to play online

ICE is making sure you only play with ICE players

if you play online with these mods that is kinda not cool tbh

if you are solo, go for it

[trim tangle]

Agreed ~ I've only ever played solo, so 🙃

[trim tangle]

Neat ~ but why can't they make hi res textures work? :(

[zinc sapphire]

it doesn't work?

[trim tangle]

Not from what I remember ~ they recommend uninstalling or disabling the hi res texture pack

[zinc sapphire]

interesting, iirc I used it 🐸

[trim tangle]

Are you sure it wasn't disabled?

[zinc sapphire]

no idea

long time ago

[robust phoenix]

there was a new post processing removal mod added

on nexusmod

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/221

thing is, it kinda fucks with renodx, or at least a few settings

you guys running this?

[merry tartan]

What’s this doing differently?

And yeah this stuff is a recipe for disaster with renodx mods

[robust phoenix]

its just a thign to disable the native sharpening the game has, lens distortion

fog

etc

[fading cape]

that's not a new mod?

I've been using it with no issues

i can't play the game without it

[merry tartan]

oh lol yeah that's the one that's been there basically since launch

[robust phoenix]

what config do you use?

[fading cape]

for that one i just use it to disable lens distortion

I was thinking it was this one

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/455

the default fog settings are awful

this is what i use

really just use it so the fog is out of my way without the screen being black because they didn't design the game to be used without fog

this one is nice too @robust phoenix
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/2368?tab=description

[robust phoenix]

damn

[robust phoenix]

do i paste this somewhere?

also i wish i could use highest res textures without it fucking causing microstutters

i have a god dammed 4090

[fading cape]

you can try the decompression stuff if you want but imo the textures aren't even worth it

[fading cape]

its just the config file for the mod in the data section of re

[robust phoenix]

does that have an effect?

also wym

where is this decompression stuff

like, issue with textures on high is htat they load slowly

so they appear all blurred and then load

highest doesnt have that issue

i think

[robust phoenix]

ok i swapped it

let me try it

[fading cape]

that's an issue no matter what

i'm pretty sure atleast

[robust phoenix]

hmm

[fading cape]

i havent done the decompression stuff it supposedly fixes microstutters but adds hella data to the game

on top of the default 4k textures

[robust phoenix]

hmm

i'll try it later i guess

[fading cape]

there's still lots of ugly textures even on 4k tho

[robust phoenix]

rip

also, the disco ball stuff

some people said to completely disable is bad

like 0.2 is better

is that what you use?

[fading cape]

i just used default i didn't notice anything bad

[robust phoenix]

gotcha

then i'll do that too

damn, game looks way darker on chara select screen without the fog

lmao

[fading cape]

darker?

[robust phoenix]

yeah

cause the fog gives the impression of washed out

now its pretty contrasty

[fading cape]

yeah it just adds a layer of grey to the scene idk why they thought that was a good idea

[red temple]

Old outdated GPU

[robust phoenix]

i wish, its a 13900kf

[red temple]

that's practically ancient these days 😉

[robust phoenix]

damn

i thought it was good

[fading cape]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[robust phoenix]

fellas, what sthis decompression method for the textures?

[green jackal]

badly implemented DirectStorage

Basically instead of doing the work on the GPU side it's on the CPU side for reasons unknown, also they probably should have tried to optimize the texture work a tad more. Otherwise there's no reason to compress textures given the uncompressed size isn't that huge percentually in comparision, especially with the HD pack

[robust phoenix]

;/

also

do any of you know of a way that makes framegen have motion blur

it seems teh game turns motion blur off

[fading cape]

framegen kinda just does that due to the nature of the tech but maybe you're seeing something different idk

[robust phoenix]

huh

i guess lossless scaling is the only way

[fading cape]

lossless scaling is worse lol

worse latency and visual quality

[trim tangle]

Even when you force it to use the GPU, performance is still simply awful

Decompressed textures all the way

And then you have to contend with RE Engine being badly optimized for CPUs and GPUs in general

7800X3D and 7900XTX? Camp still plummets to ~60fps

[trim tangle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/951

Run the tool in the game directory, and run it on each of these files, choosing true / true when prompted:

re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_002.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_004.pak
re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_006.pak

Backup the originals, obviously ~ make sure to put them back when you know there's an update coming.

Then rename the decompressed files as the originals.

Decompress the high res textures too, and backup

Then hardlink the decompressed dlc/re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak to re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_008.pak else there will be texture breakage

Be warned ~ you will need a lot of space for the files...

156GB for original files to ~320GB for decompressed + backups

[robust phoenix]

do you feel its worth it?

[zinc sapphire]

was kinda needed before the title update 2, but it still helps a bit I think

[shut violet]

it improves performance, but if your GPU is fast enough, then it's not really needed

aka if you got a 5080/4090/5090 and you want to play in 4k/60fps, then you can keep the textures compressed

but you get better framerate stability if you decompress the textures

[trim tangle]

A faster GPU won't help, because it's an engine implementation issue, not a GPU or driver one

[trim tangle]

It really helps eliminate a lot of stuttering, as you're skipping decompression-on-the-fly

Gameplay is definitely smoother

[trim tangle]

You still do need it ~ the engine is just very borkened, alas. So is DirectStorage in general.

[shut violet]

not really, if you switch to GPU decompression, then it works fine

if you are playing the game without an FPS limit, and the GPU is running at 99% all the time, then DirectStorage is going to cause issues yea

[trim tangle]

I find that it still stutters on my end with GPU decompress :(

[shut violet]

It does not stutter on my PC with GPU decompress, but the GPU usage increases when I move the camera, so yea it's taxing the GPU quite hard, especially if you use the DLC textures

[trim tangle]

Might depend in the GPU driver in the case also

[shut violet]

yea maybe, I'm still on the 572.83 driver

wuwa does not work with newer drivers 😅

[light crest]

How does one even force GPU decompression in this game? Afaik SK can't do it

[trim tangle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/1923

Let's you toggle between CPU and GPU decompression

Also

Update1.1.0:
Add a dll plugin to set custom StagingBufferSize.
Open .ini file to edit it.
Recommend value: 32, 64, 128, 256, game default 64mb.
Increase bandwidth saturation at a price lower render budget.
High-end rig try set it to 256mb or 128mb.

.ini file is in the plugin folder

[light crest]

Ty, I'll try it. Anything to make high res texture pack less of a stutter fest

[trim tangle]

If you have the storage space... #1347155473266114580 message

No stutter because nothing is being decompressed

[light crest]

Yeah I saw that mod, but seems like a hassle to keep it updated with every patch to be honest

Does it actually fix the stuttering completely?

[trim tangle]

That's why I turned to using Mod Organizer 2 for modding the game

[light crest]

If I add that with SK I'm sure it's going implode lmao

[trim tangle]

It might. Not sure SK is worth it these days, anyways.

It causes a few too many weird issues.

But MO2 is good for modding the game and keeping track of said mods.

[light crest]

It's a compatibility nightmare, but the frame limiter is still teh best there is

Plus comes with DLSS adjustment options

[trim tangle]

MO2 does haven't have built-in support, so had to add:
game_monsterhunterwilds.py

from ..basic_game import BasicGame


class MonsterHunterWildsGame(BasicGame):
    Name = "Monster Hunter: Wilds Support Plugin"
    Author = "Valmar33"
    Version = "1.0.0"

    GameName = "Monster Hunter: Wilds"
    GameShortName = "monsterhunterwilds"
    GameBinary = "MonsterHunterWilds.exe"
    GameDataPath = "%GAME_PATH%"
    GameSaveExtension = "bin"
    GameNexusId = 6993
    GameSteamId = 2246340

[trim tangle]

DLSS Swapper does a similar job, I think

[light crest]

Does it work like with Bethesda games, injecting files without replacing the original?

[trim tangle]

Does it achieve anything in practice? 👀

[trim tangle]

Yep

[light crest]

Alright ty, maybe I'll try it if Capcom won't fix the game before that
( It won't happen)

[trim tangle]

RE Engine and DirectStorage might be too cursed to be fixed properly

Then again, DirectStorage is cursed in many games that use it

Some games let you disable DirectStorage and they get performance boosts from it

But I doubt Capcom will make that happen with Wilds

[light crest]

I wonder what Dragons Dogma 2 was using, that game was also a mess but a different kind

Mostly horrid CPU usage

[trim tangle]

RE Engine also... the game really tanks whenever there's a lot of NPCs loaded in

I don't think it ever got fixed, really

Some modders did some magic to make it less awful, but it wasn't a perfect fix?

https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/707

[robust phoenix]

Huh, how does tgat work?

[rare meadow]

Unlikley it ever will. RE is nearing EOL. The issue with NPCs is that all path-finding and state changes are computed synchronously, with absolutely maddingly inefficient code. That's why RE engine grinds to a halt the more, "dynamic", NPCs you have on screen. "Dynamic", NPCs being the general term for the kind of generated filler NPCs you see in open world games. Wilds uses them extensively in settlements and base camps which is why those areas can chug so badly

[shut violet]

I use REF+SK+RenoDX+Other mods with wilds 😄

[shut violet]

It works well in FF16

but yea there aren't many games that benefit from DS

[pine slate]

its just broken in wilds

i believe its used correctly in forbidden west

i think

[robust phoenix]

fellas, im kinda stuck, idk how to properly decompress the textures

idk what commands to put on the cmd

[green jackal]

None, just drag and drop the files to it, then press yes both times

As in:

Execute the CMD
Drag and drop files
Press yes to full package if you want to replace OG file, and yes to the second option for flags
Success!

For hardlinking the DLC package you must open an actual CMD and then use the right command which I'll see if I can find in a sec

Quoting from Nexus:

Im currently using the hardlink method. I decompressed the high res pack then made a hardlink from the uncompressed file in the DLC folder to the parent folder containing all the other patch files.

Example: Open CMD as Admin, type:

cd YOUR MH DIRECTORY CONTAINING THE 00X PATCH FILES

Then paste:

mklink /h "re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_00x.pak" YOUR re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak FULL PATH here

Right click on the MH high res decompressed file and click copy as path, paste that in the YOUR FULL PATH HERE area. Change the 00x.pak to whatever is the next in the "patch" chain in your folder. for me it was 006. This saved me 100 gigs of space.

For example:

cd C:\Steam\steamapps\common\MonsterHunterWilds\

mklink /h "re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_00X.pak" C:\Steam\steamapps\common\MonsterHunterWilds\dlc\re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak

Where "X" is the proper patch file number

[robust phoenix]

drag and drop what exactly?

the cmd is the only file that came i think

[green jackal]

The original pak file 😄

THe one you want to decompress basically

[robust phoenix]

uh

sorry im just very confused

i never did any of this

[green jackal]

No probs, we all start somewhere at some point 😄

[robust phoenix]

so, like

i know you explain it like im a dummy

but assume i'm like a literal buffon

i cant even read

present it in archaic symbos

drawings of prehistoric humans

so, lets see

i get this file here

and run it

just as is?:

or do i put it on the folder

[green jackal]

I'd put it in the folder mainly for convenience

So you don't have to go and look for it, I don't think it's needed to be in the same folder to work

Then you run it as is and when the window opens you drag and drop the pak file to it

[robust phoenix]

but like

no window opens it

like, on my directory, there is a file named

is this sign that it worked?

[green jackal]

yup

[robust phoenix]

funny

[green jackal]

Did it give you a dialogue asking you for options Yes and No?

[robust phoenix]

i want to use the hd texture pack. but this is way too small for that

[robust phoenix]

can i run it again with no issues?

i'll check

[green jackal]

Yes

[robust phoenix]

ok, this window pops up

aight

so i just press enter right

[green jackal]

Yeah, now you drag drop

[robust phoenix]

do i do both trues?

[green jackal]

I'd do so specially if you want to delete the compressed file

I also think saying "no" to the first option makes the game crash now

[robust phoenix]

so its done

but i cant drag anything from this

or can i

[green jackal]

No, now it's in the same folder with the same name but with "uncompressed.pak" instead

It's the one that says "Output file" (what has been created)

[robust phoenix]

so where do i find that output file

if i ran this on my wilds folder, then it should be there as well right?

[green jackal]

Yep

[robust phoenix]

ok so, what now?

also, i want to uncompress the hd ones but i dont see an option for that

how do i do that?

[green jackal]

It's inside the "dlc" folder

In fact what's your gpu?

[robust phoenix]

its a 4090

uh

[robust phoenix]

so i run this file in that folder?

[green jackal]

You need only decompress the HD texture pack then

I'm sure the 4090 can handle normal textures fine

[robust phoenix]

yeah, i wanna decompress the hd texture pack

but i dont see an option to do that

[green jackal]

You do the same but with the large file in the "dlc" folder first

Then you gotta rename it the same as the og file and hardlink it

[robust phoenix]

you see, thats my doubt tho, all i did in that window was press enter nonstop and put true true

i didnt pick a file last time

so how do i pick a file this time

[green jackal]

you drag and dropped one yeah?

[robust phoenix]

nope

[green jackal]

You do the same

[robust phoenix]

i did no drag and drop

[green jackal]

Oh

[robust phoenix]

all i did was put the compressor ON the folder and run it there

[green jackal]

When the window opens you're meant to drag and drop the file (or paste the full path alternatively)

[robust phoenix]

...oh.

damn

ok now i am starting to understand

so, should i do the HD one as well?

[green jackal]

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\MonsterHunterWilds\dlc\re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak" is the one in your case

Yeah!

[robust phoenix]

ok so, i open the window

and type that file path

and then run it

ok, so i guess this right

[green jackal]

True and true in this case

[robust phoenix]

yep

and does this remove the stuttering completely?

[green jackal]

you'll see frametimes become flat

[robust phoenix]

also, should i do this for the high text as well?

[robust phoenix]

holy shit im getting wet

[green jackal]

The ones you're doing are the high res textures

[robust phoenix]

yeah, i mean the highj norm

not the dlc one

[green jackal]

The thing is: DirectStorage works fine with standard textures, but the HD ones are the ones that chug performance due the size of each one probably. But since each update adds new texture packs I think it's better to simply uncompress the HD ones for conviencience, especially with 16GB+ VRAM cards

[robust phoenix]

i see

well, i heard uncompressing the normal ones also helps somewhat

i guess i'll do both

damn this files big

[green jackal]

Yeah it does, it becomes a 100% flatline with both

[robust phoenix]

damn

[green jackal]

Otherwise it has little graph still but nothing any modern GPU can't handle

[robust phoenix]

i'll do both, i have storage to spare

[green jackal]

Ehhh do it just with the DLC ones

It seems to crash with the rest

[robust phoenix]

done!

anything else next?

you mentioned renaming the file

[green jackal]

Yeah, name change the old file extension to ".old" and delete the ".uncompressed" from the new one

[robust phoenix]

gotcha

this right||?

[green jackal]

Yep!

Now to finish

[robust phoenix]

backflçip

got it

backflip*

[green jackal]

You have to hardlink, which is basically telling Windows "hey, there's a file in this other folder but I'm going to make you do a new one here which actually points there"

Open a cmd command

[robust phoenix]

ok

done

[green jackal]

Then paste:
cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\MonsterHunterWilds\

And hit enter

[robust phoenix]

this?

[green jackal]

Yeah, now do paste

[robust phoenix]

sorry im a bit confused, paste what?