✅RenoDX: MH Wilds

[thin fjord]

it's fine because my monitor is still 27in

but game perform worse for some reason at 4k output regardless of render resolution

[cloud vessel]

Funky

[indigo stratus]

I tried using the decompression tool, any idea what i did wrong?

[timid quail]

how are you injecting REFramework, with SK by any chance?

[indigo stratus]

im using special K globally

[cloud vessel]

He meant are you using sk to inject reframework (did you rename dinput8.dll to Reframework.dll)

[indigo stratus]

Oh sorry yeah

[cloud vessel]

Yeah change it back

Injected via sk you can't use pak mods

[indigo stratus]

Holy fucking smokes it just works, omg i can turn the camera and its smooth as butter with high res

[rocky bear]

how much vram do you have?

[trim tangle]

I've had high-res texture pack eventually always crash the game with 16GB VRAM on a 7600XT, lol

[rustic bridge]

still no big bala tonight

I'm chasing for the golden crown

[sonic thicket]

Can I use special k to allow wilds to use more than 14gb of vram? I saw something about changing the vram quota but I don't see an option for it.

[shut swan]

I've noticed this too , runs differently 1440p on my 1440p monitor vs 1440p on my 4k oled

[sonic thicket]

It probably is more expensive to upscale 1080 to 4k vs 1080p to 2k

or upscaling 1440p to 4k vs 1440p no upscaling

[shut swan]

I'm saying that I have the same settings across the board 1440p set as render

[sonic thicket]

or do you mean 1440p no upscaling on 4k monitor?

[shut swan]

On the TV it runs worse

Same settings both

[sonic thicket]

ok yeah have no idea then

[shut swan]

The game is doing something still is my guess

Special k reports a full 4k output upscale via DLSS even when set to 1440p

[thin fjord]

I mean it seems like it is, but it shouldn't be

[scenic wagon]

You'll have to set the desktop resolution to 1440p first if you are runing 1440p on a 4k monitor.. becuase the game will be running at 1440p then upscale to 4k via gpu, probably because it doesn't have a fullscreen mode.

[indigo stratus]

sorry for the late response 24gb

[rocky bear]

Ah ok that explains why, game still stutters even with uncompressed textures with 16 gbs of vram

[indigo stratus]

even on lower texture settings?

[rocky bear]

Nono just with high res textures

[merry tartan]

@cursive wharf (in response to the posts in the renodx channel) yeah the sliders should change on the fly

[cursive wharf]

Mhm thanks

Seems it's just not actually working at all I think

Gonna have a look if my untrained eye finds anything in the logs

[merry tartan]

can't recall if anybody else here has it working on linux

really wish discord had per-thread searching

[cursive wharf]

This is the very end of my log

Curious seems to me that I see d3d11 when the game is using directx12? But that's just me saying "huh" without deep knowledge

[cursive wharf]

Older version (3.7.1) also doesn't seem to work

[cursive wharf]

Followed the convo from schoggi and valmar from some time ago in here and looks like I got it to work

(link to end of convo)

Gonna be trying around some stuff cuz it seems p stuttery rn in main screen

Basically just tried adding some diff launch parameters and it looks like the /WineDetectionEnabled:False did the trick

but again stuttery in main menu already so wouldn't say workable yet

Oh right and ig I should try deleting shaders again too

[white wyvern]

I have a 16 GB card. And either I am doing something diffferent/wrong OR somehow, uncompressed high-res textures work for me without any stutters.

[merry tartan]

glad you got it working, and yeah this should be the fix for that

[cursive wharf]

Forgot to wrote it in here as well but yeah. Didn't properly try in-game yet but the starting cutscene and screen stutters were gone already

[glacial plank]

hello, apologies since it's not really a right place to ask, but thought you guys know about this

I've been away for quite a while, do I need to replace some files after the new update or it should be fine without that? (like reframework, deleting cache maybe etc)?

[trim tangle]

Everything should just work ~ though deleting cache might be a good idea in any case

Some mods might be broken, though

Skip Pouch Replace Prompt broke, but has an update that works again

[rocky bear]

you can check in the resource manager => monster hunter wilds which texture file you are using, if you're really using the high res ones you should see an enormous disk usage for the file re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000
let me know!

[white wyvern]

I know and I checked.

[fading cape]

Anyone know if there's any good stuff for monster hunter rise?

like reshade or hdr wise?

or just to improve graphics in some way ig

[glacial plank]

I made the game look quite a lot better than the original but I don't remember what I used and I tinkered with reshade a lot (one of the realistic fog preset)

I'd recommend just getting that preset and not bothering with anything for shadows besides MXAO, getting UI texture packs, resizing the UI mod and unlocking cutscene fps (plus you can increase resolution of textures to like 150 in-game I believe)

for HDR I just used base, it's not too great but it's ok

[thorny terrace]

is there a reason for the game to suddenly build the shadercache much faster after I deleted it? Kinda makes no sense to me, given that it normaly takes like 10 minutes

[rustic bridge]

after days of hunting, i've finally catched a big bala!

only silver crown but i'm happy for now

i can move on 😄

[rustic bridge]

it might use your gpu cache

if you have an amd card, the shader cache is located at %appdata%

[thorny terrace]

ah nice, thanks!

[rustic bridge]

if you have a lot of games and never update your driver, you should keep an eye on your gpu cache folder

it can take a lot of GB

[thorny terrace]

looking for it rn and just gonna nuke it

[rustic bridge]

managing ssd space is a real issue on windows

a lof of applications cache in %appdata%

I use treesize free edition to pinpoint the bad boys who fill my ssd

[thorny terrace]

the shader cache can be deleted in adrenalin too, just checked, it significantly reduced the shader cache folder size in appdata local

[thorny terrace]

used that too and also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV-NKz4cjlU&list=WL&index=

btw clearing my cache now gave me some weird error, but now it's compiling the cache so gotta see where that goes lol

[rustic bridge]

the worst game is path of exile 1

its shader cache can have hundreds of thousands files!

making a huge disk io bottleneck

[thorny terrace]

can't wait for Steam OS, honestly. But if I ever swap to Linux then it should be something that's easy to handle

[cerulean acorn]

Where are the RenoDX settings stored? Is there any way I can decide which preset to load instead of it always being #1?

[rustic bridge]

it should be in reshadepreset.ini

ask ritsu or jon to make it use the latest preset used at start

[thorny terrace]

Any graphics settings I can just tone down or straight up disable that the renoDX handles by itself? (playing on ultra rn but the zoh shia fight kinda tanks fps, no idea why)

[rustic bridge]

for me zoh shiah stutters alot if i use shadow details at max.

Setting it at medium solves the issue

[thorny terrace]

nice, will do that.. for whatever reason that arena is unoptimized as hell

[white wyvern]

If you’re actively hunting crowns, join the other MH server. They have free crown lobbies.
I had half of the crowns by normally playing the game. Then did a 10 hour marathon leeching joining the crown hunting lobbies in the other server to get all small and king crowns.

They trade crowns too. But I didn’t do a single trade. Just leeched was nice to everyone.

https://discord.gg/mhwilds

[rustic bridge]

cool it will help for some monsters

[glacial plank]

can you guys recommend settings for PP mod in order for everything to work fine if I only want to use lens distortion removal?

the usual lens distortion mod doesn't seem to work post patch

[merry tartan]

you can use the pp removal mod just make sure taa jitter isn't checked

well

one sec lol

[glacial plank]

do I need to on/off local exposure and color thingie?

I think I see the blackened effects with it

[merry tartan]

that but also make sure taa jitter isn't checked (not a renodx thing, it's just a setting that probably shouldn't exist and doesn't really do what it says)

[glacial plank]

oh the blurred luminance fixed the blackened screen, tyty!

is taa/jitter doesn't do anything good?

if you disable it

[merry tartan]

turning on taa jitter breaks reconstruction

[glacial plank]

Ray reconstruction?

[merry tartan]

upsamplers in general i mean

[glacial plank]

hm

[glacial plank]

when I try turning it on and off, it seems like with ON it adds more noise to some shadows which doesn't look very good

[merry tartan]

yeah it needs to be off

[glacial plank]

but isn't it ON in your screenshot? 👀

[merry tartan]

yeah....that screenshot was from before I knew it was the problem

[glacial plank]

oh, so it's the same but these 2 unchecked right?

[merry tartan]

the stuff in red is what matters for renodx to function

[glacial plank]

thanks!

[merry tartan]

I think it's just that jitter needs to be disable, I don't think it matters if taa is on or off if you're using dlss/fsr

[stiff sundial]

wwww

[wicked spindle]

If you need just lens distortion removal, this is the link to the PP mod with only lens distortion toggle that Studel posted last month. I'm still using it just fine after TU1

#1347155473266114580 message

[fading cape]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterrise/mods/1168?tab=posts

you talking about this?

[glacial plank]

I think so yeah, but after playing for a while I removed the fog and did not use ray tracing thing (I think I even removed color adjustments at some point too)

the most important things really are MXAO (I think it's called) and sharpening

[jovial yew]

Does anyone know why my frametimes start to get erratic when I turn on reshade? I like the mod but I cannot use g-sync because of this

[merry tartan]

perhaps a silly question but you're using reframework too right?

[jovial yew]

Yes I have it installed

Here's what I also have installed
DLSS-FSR FG
Disable Lens Distortion (the one from this channel)

[merry tartan]

dang. Those white bars pretty much cleared up for me once reframework took out the antitamper

have you tried unchecking the "pace native frames" option

[jovial yew]

Still the same iirc, might have to double check

[merry tartan]

idk if it'll matter but reshade should be loaded lazy with renodx

according to kal

[jovial yew]

Still the same, the hz in the render latency row still goes from 1-2hz very fast

[merry tartan]

dang, not really sure then, seems like you've done everything right. Maybe it's the frame gen mod having a weird interaction

or maybe it's just how pacing frame gen is in this game

or well, you already said it's specifically with reshade I guess

is the problem still there without renodx?

[jovial yew]

The game runs perfectly without renodx. With renodx, the game will run perfectly for a few minutes then it would flicker like crazy

I swapped dlss to fsr and got this. Render latency is stable at 1hz

[merry tartan]

so it is frame gen then?

[merry tartan]

sorry, to clarify I was asking if injecting reshade without the renodx addon still caused the problem

[jovial yew]

Yes the problem is still there

[jovial yew]

I am testing right now. If this did not break then the dlss-fsr fg mod conflicts with reshade

[jovial yew]

Aight it is still broken. I'll just disable g-sync then 🫠

[tiny holly]

Is the version on Nexus the latest version

Who can give me the latest version of renodx ths！！

[trim tangle]

Check pinned messages 🐸

[tiny holly]

谢谢

🫡

[fossil nymph]

has anyone got good settings to use for RenoDX or REFramework?

[jovial yew]

Thru some digging in reddit. I found a method that uses Optiscaler and that fixed my problem lol.

Conclusion, DLSS-FSRFG mod does not work well with Reshade

[thin fjord]

ah nvm he found solution

[gritty ingot]

So optiscaler fg works on wilds?

[jovial yew]

Not working, basically the game will use the in-game fsr then optiscaler will force use dlss. It's like backwards dlss-fsrfg

[gritty ingot]

Do you have the reddit link or how did you install optiscaler?

[jovial yew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1j6b0a0/frame_pacing_fix/

[rich finch]

Well I tried this build
#🧩renodx-dev message
of Reshade and it seems to let RenoDX work without the square issue on my AMD card.

But it also prevents REFramework from loading which prevents me from fixing the ultrawide aspect ratio (not a good thing to have those black sidebars on an OLED).
Anybody have any ideas if I'm missing something?

@dense knot Thought I'd ping you (if that's okay) just to confirm that you were right that it did fix the square in water at least.

[gritty ingot]

Thanks. I'll try this out I also have the same issues.

[zinc hill]

Hi, can someone help me, For any reason I can't open the renodx on mhW

[cloud vessel]

dlssg to fsr3 fg mod works fine with reshade

[jovial yew]

I wish it would in my system

[foggy tide]

How do you use reshade with this?

[zinc hill]

Hi, can someone help me, For any reason I can't open the renodx on mhW

[zinc hill]

how you open this menu?

[jovial yew]

You load reshade as plugin via special k

[jovial yew]

That one is from SpecialK

[zinc hill]

:0

but i can use the renoDX with reFramework?

[rustic bridge]

press home to open reshade and reno will pop up too

[zinc hill]

Um. I manage to install the unfogged + renodx. for now it is okay I think XD. Sad that this looks better than the normal game xd

[rustic bridge]

while you're at it, you should use the shader toggler to disable the forced sharpening

[merry tartan]

Renodx does that out of the box now

[rustic bridge]

completely forgot it

[merry tartan]

Don’t use that preset with renodx

[zinc hill]

umm unfogged?

i disable it to see how looks, I prefer unfogged + renodx XD for me looks better

[merry tartan]

Use renodx sliders instead

I’m the creator of that preset, I’m not putting it down for no reason for what that’s worth lol

[zinc hill]

dafuq xd

[zinc hill]

what is that xd?

[merry tartan]

When you open the reshade menu, do you see the renodx tab?

[zinc hill]

yes

[merry tartan]

In there, if you go to intermediate settings, there are sliders to play with

Are you in SDR or HDR?

[zinc hill]

I think hdr xD

[merry tartan]

In any case, you’ll get a better result changing sliders there than using that preset with the changes made by renodx.

[zinc hill]

okay I try it

Um xd now the renoDX dosen't show :(

xD

[merry tartan]

sorry, spent my afternoon at the DMV . Did you figure it out?

[zinc hill]

Yea xD thanks

[merry tartan]

cool

and np

[zinc hill]

question is any another thing to see mhW better? I have disable lends too

Also RTX is so bad in this game xD with the reFramework get a little better

[merry tartan]

only visual tweaks I use are dlss preset K with autoexposure forced, renodx, and disabled lens distortion.

Give the filmic preset a try!

[zinc hill]

don't really like filmic preset. Also I hate dlss. :(

[merry tartan]

ah, I don't have much else to suggest then lol

[zinc hill]

:( Thanks

[merry tartan]

do you hate taa stuff in general?

if so you can force it off with the disable post processing mod

or wait you can disable it in this game anyway I think...

nvm I'm back to having nothing lol

[zinc hill]

em I hate dlss. Make really strange visual things, I only use it in like "fast-simple" games

and also don't know why but my cpu is like 40% and gpu 90% and I don't get more than 60-70 fps XD

[thin fjord]

man was playing without renodx for arena and didn't realize how much a performance penalty it is

[cloud vessel]

Regular taa bad dlaa good

[cloud vessel]

It's not a lot

Not that I noticed anyways

[merry tartan]

taa has to be egregiously horrible for me to opt to not use it in favor of fxaa/smaa or raw jaggies

mh world was pretty bad lol

[fading cape]

yeah i was playing around with it in rise

dlss is buggy af so not worth it no matter how much extra performance it gives

but dlaa and taa + fxaa look very similar

but taa had like 60 extra fps dlaa wasn't worth

[zinc sapphire]

worth it

just get better hw

[fading cape]

it was like 3fps last i saw

[thin fjord]

definitely more than that for me

[merry tartan]

performance hit can't be measured in fps

well, it can, it's just not useful when taken out of the context of the exact scene, settings, and hardware

on a 4080 at 3440x1440, I measured a 0.4 ms performance cost.

it won't be a very substantial hit

[gritty ingot]

do you have issues with optiscaler overlay? followed the guide but the optiscaler overlay is just appearing as black screen to me in the middle of screen

[shut violet]

is preset K usable now ? 🤔

[zinc sapphire]

I doubt it

people probably just "ignore" the glaring issues

I can't 🐸

[merry tartan]

Same as it was, I just think general image quality with DLSS normally is bad enough in this game

Sometimes K has issues, but cnn always has issues

[thin fjord]

yeah I came to the same conclusion

I am using preset K, disable fog if you don't care for it otherwise deal with the exposure issues

[mossy shoal]

I tried switching back to preset E, but the textures look so much better in preset K that I am choosing to ignore the smears lol

[shut violet]

Hmm okay, I will give preset K another try haha

[rich finch]

@dense knot
Just wanted to poke. We figured out, or at least found for now, how to get around reshade not loading up properly with the new reshade build. But I did find the latest nightly of the RenoDX for wilds is having some...issues with cinematic (primarily indoors) with it all. Just thought I'd poke you so you were aware of it.

Vanilla+ looks fine though

[coral notch]

are you using the post processing removal mod?

[rich finch]

Nope

[coral notch]

any mods?

[rich finch]

Nope.

Just the latest reshade build with the chain and proxy stuff from ShortFuse to fix the square in water effects with Reshade's UI loading (and a newer DLL). Everything else should be stock.

[coral notch]

gotcha, hopefully ritsu can help

[rich finch]

Hopefully! If it's an issue with the chain stuff which ShortFuse is still looking into we can figure it out sooner than later when those changes are in main reshade. Which will be great because it fixes the darn AMD issue with water.

It is using the latest build from https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods of the monster hunter wilds addon, though, not the nexus one.

Adventures with monster hunter. Fun in and out of game.

Gonna go throw this one in and see if it fixes over the web one if there is any difference.

Yeah that one there works fine. The one on the github gives the super dark cinematic.

[merry tartan]

the latest nightly has some changes shortfuse made, idk if he'd finished what he was working on

[rich finch]

I was talking to him over in #🧩renodx-dev
Working through some issues with the latest reshade build and ReFramework loading fully with its gui. In the end we solved it. Though the addon for wilds on the github had pitch black cinematic compared to the 3.8.1 version listed right above. Got it working without pitch black by using 3.8.1 but thought it'd be worth mentioning regardless.

[dense knot]

I'll check it out, thanks for notifying me 🙏

[rich finch]

Of course! 😄

[fleet frost]

it doesn't have any changes

all i did was add the new decompilation

[merry tartan]

oh I thought you messed with hue correction or something at one point too?

[fleet frost]

i fixed highlights being clipped and hue shifting but just dumped it in #1343704235765661837 i didn't commit anything

[merry tartan]

ah alright

my bad then

[fleet frost]

i didn't completely check if the new decompilation matched output, but looked the same

[dense knot]

Just tried it, seems to be working fine

[rich finch]

Might reboot and try it again later. If it happens again I'll link the exact version of it

[zinc sapphire]

seems like the update has some new pak files?

I see re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_003.pak (1 KB) and re_chunk_000.pak.patch_003.pak (45MB)

and yes I removed my uncompressed files etc and did a file integrity check

so it is new I'm sure

steamdb confirms

two new pak files

@timid quail

your instructions are now out of date

since you used that name

[heavy snow]

You can also free up storage with CompactGUI which is basically black magic

[sinful charm]

I brokeded it

[sinful charm]

nvm I fixed it by checking "unblock" in the properties of the renodx dll lol

[trim tangle]

How do you load SpecialK like this? 👀

[sinful charm]

I've been doing dark magic today

I think I've ended up with qutie a nice game experience but my UI feels super washed out

[trim tangle]

Care to share the secret?

[sinful charm]

I'll try to retrace

[trim tangle]

I just meant ~ how do you load SpecialK in Reshade like that?

[zinc sapphire]

that is normal

it is the other way around

when you inject reshade with SK you will have it show up there

at least it does for me

I think it so that rehshade stuff is not affecting the SK overlay

but don't quote me on that

[sinful charm]

yeah I think it just happens when you change the reshade dll from dxgi to reshade64.dll to inject rather than using the reframework one

you know when you say a word so many times that it starts sounding wrong

I feel like I've done that to myself but with brightness and saturation settings

[thin fjord]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/1882?tab=posts

this looks really promising

[rustic bridge]

does it work with upscalers?

[thin fjord]

it says yes, I am about to test it.

can actually swap your upscale level as well instead of just resolution

[rustic bridge]

nice, like optiscaler then

first hunt today is a golden crown 😄

[sinful charm]

what do I do about UI looking washed out 🤔

[rustic bridge]

try adjusting the "ui brightness" slider

[fading cape]

again??

what could they possible need a new one for they just added a new one

[fading cape]

44mib's too wtf

[wintry shell]

adding a new pak file is relatively common, it allows them to modify files of the main big pak without causing large download sizes for patches

don't think too much about it

[rich finch]

If only steam would let games update with deltas u.u

[night dirge]

They already do that

[wintry shell]

Steam does allow you to update game with deltas, but that also has a second downside, you need a lot of space to apply said delta because Steam applies the delta to a copy of the file to prevent borked installs in case of installation failure.
so you can have a patch that takes 30mb to download but 60gb to install.

[rich finch]

EW...okay yeah smaller pak files

[thin fjord]

seems to be working well, what I ended up doing is pairing it with dlss tweak to set custom percents for dlss presets so it will cycle those presets to get the performance

[rustic bridge]

can you share the zip here? nexusmod is buggy right now

[rustic bridge]

ty

[fading cape]

ah that makes since

it sucks though since i have a mod that changes icons and it's a pain to update it

makybe ill just take the 002 pak from the tu1 update and add my mod to the files so people don't have to keep reinstalling or changing filenames

003 would be better since its smaller but they might modify it next update

[lament vault]

When i press home on my keyboard, it just opens my browser for some reason?

[trim tangle]

Got it working ~ but now, mouse seems unable to interact with the SpecialK window, though Reshade and Reframework work just fine. Is that a known issue? Or just Proton weirdness?

[rich finch]

Oh be careful if you're on linux. At least if you change proton arguments.

It trips Denuvo and then it'll lock you out of the game for 24 hours.

cries in how I know this

[rich finch]

What distro do you use or is it steam deck?

[sinful charm]

This game is going to make me upgrade my pc

[rich finch]

It does that. It's a bottleneck finder for sure.

"Oh I see a piece of hardware you cheaped out on...it'd be a shame if-" chug

Or "I see a piece of hardware older than two years"

[sinful charm]

I've been fairly happy with my intel 8700k cpu and 500gb + 250gb ssds but now.. I am thinking of going amd

And I need more storage so I can do the decompression and also fit more than 1 single game lol...

[rich finch]

Can always offer the specs I'm using. I think I can get 55fps at 3440x1440 without framegen or upscaling and around 120fps with at ultra.

I went AMD all the way down because Nvidia is never in stock and intel burned me.

...If you get an AMD that comes with a heatsink by the way make sure it doesn't have thermal CEMENT before you put on the heatsink. Some of the earlier ryzens used thermal cement and it can take you by surprise and you might, like me and a friend, bend pins trying to jostle the heatsink off because the CPU latch isn't that strong on AMD slots.

That stuff never really needs replaced but good god it does NOT want to let the CPU go

[sinful charm]

[rich finch]

Apparently some simple alcohol will disolve it pretty readily, but if you're not ready most methods of replacing the heatsink are just gonna take the CPU with it

[sinful charm]

I'm going to be upgrading cpu, mobo, ram, cooler, storage, case
Probably something like this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/kLXFYd

[rich finch]

System is:
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 8-Core Processor, 3800 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
BaseBoard Product MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI (MS-7D75)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 32.0 GB (6000mhz w/one of the profiles in the bios)
GPU AMD RX 7900XT
1000 watt or so modular PSU
My main hard drive is now an NVME WD_BLACK 4TB SN850P (Meant for PS5 but it works perfectly fine in any NVME slot and has a built in heatsink. 2280 profile NVME. It just doesn't come pre-formatted so you have to use disk management to give it a GPT partition table)
Monitor is a LG - UltraGear 34" OLED Model 34GS95QE-B.AUS

While it's not the best at it, I get that fps with ray tracing on low or medium. High dumps the fps with framgen closer to 95

HA The system you're making is almost the same as mine sans a few points

[sinful charm]

That's what I noticed haha

[rich finch]

I went with a noctua tower cooler myself

[sinful charm]

If i didn't already have most of these pieces probably the same tbh

I have an old noctua currently so I thought i might as well try the new popular one cus it's ridiculously cheap

[rich finch]

Just be sure if you get more than one nvme that you pay attention to what slot you use. Most mobos have two or three slots, but one bums off the PCI-E slot which reduces the speed if you have a PCI-E card in it (they never bum off the GPU lanes if I recall but the other two)

Case is a newer version of mine ha

Are you reading my notes

I'd get more ram but I'm hard pressed using 32GB right now

The 7900XT is a good AMD card to go with if you can't find an Nvidia which might happen. Though AMD drivers can be a bit of a mess.

The 25.2.1 is pretty stable and works with mods, but 25.3.1 and 25.3.2 crash wilds with some mods. (Mostly ones that replace models)

Lets see for the motherboard you're getting since I just installed my NVMEs...

[sinful charm]

I actually already have the nvidia card, corsair psu, Samsung ssds, hdd, and monitor so my upgrade would be everything else

[rich finch]

Slots 1 and 2 go straight to the CPU for that cpu you're getting. (The 8000 series can't access slot 2). The third slot I believe bums off one of the PCI-E lanes.

Slot 1 has a heatsink, slot 2 doesn't. Slot 3 does. Something to keep in mind if you're getting NVMEs without heatsinks built on

Only slot 1 and 3 support full length NVMEs but both of the ones you have there are 2280 profile which is the medium size so all of its slots can use those

The manual for the mobo gives good info on which nvme slots you'll wanna use

Also be sure to update the bios on the mobo.

They just released one last month that they say improves gaming performance

Also how dare you have my seagate barracuda and SSD? (Mine is the 1TB model SSD, though)

Let me guess. You're putting all your long term files on the Seagate Barracuda too?

[sinful charm]

Ya cold storage

[rich finch]

HA. Stop having my system but only slightly different.

I got a 4TB nvme so now my barracuda is frozen storage

[sinful charm]

Yeah me too..... because I just took it out because I didn't have room after rearranging some stuff in my meshify-c hahaha

I need a new case so bad

[rich finch]

Oh here. Since you have that mobo and case similar to mine and I think your GPU is nearing the size of mine (the 7900 xt is biiig)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPGJCLYR

Basically a screw jack for gpus

Helps with sag

Simple cheap but effective

Since my case couldn't fit the huge support bar

[sinful charm]

Oh thanks I completely forgot about that and the sag is annoying and there is very little room on the outside of my gpu for makeshift solutions that could slip

[rich finch]

Yeah this one is pretty good. I mean the magnet isn't that strong, but once it's screwed in place save for really hard jostles like lifting the case and moving it around for working on it it'll stay nice and snug.

And its small.

I'd say about the size of a screwdriver handle

They make it look a lot larger in the ad. It does the job well

[sinful charm]

I might order the case and storage and support bracket today 🤔

[rich finch]

Glad if some of my hardware choices can help. Oh yeah follow the instructions for the nvmes and just be aware that the heatsinks have paste on them but once you put it on the heatsink is there so make your choice when you do it

If you want a built in heatsink there are cheaper smaller versions of the NVME I have for slot 2 that have a heatsink built on

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C48HN4Z9

Just gotta give it a GPT table and partitions yourself since it comes unformatted and MBT because they expect the PS5 to format it.

Otherwise it's just a normal 2280 NVME with a heatsink on it.

[sinful charm]

Tbh I haven't though about an nvme heatsink before lol

[rich finch]

They have them to maintain their read speeds under very heavy load. NVME just uses PCI-E lanes straight to the CPU (Bumming or otherwise). Your mobo of choice doesn't have a heatsink on slot 2 (CPU direct). Slot 1 (Cpu direct) has one you can apply by removing the paste covering and screwing it in on top (or leaving it off if you choose and have a heatsink already) and slot 3 (PCI-E slot based). Just know slot 3 will run at 2x PCI-E instead of 4x if you have something in one of the bottom two PCI-E slots. Not sure which

They have little clips that make them easier to install. The mobo manual does a damn good job explaining how the slots work

[sinful charm]

I might have to fully rethink my storage solution though. I'm tempted to upgrade my OS ssd but I kinda like the idea of my games being on a completely separate device

[rich finch]

NVME is pretty damned fast so you might be safe with both on one. Even under non perfect conditions they still get like 5k...I think MB/S? Maybe Mb/S compared to SSDs using SATA which top at 500

[jovial yew]

Game updated and got this error. Anyone know how to fix? I updated my reframework already

[rich finch]

Try uninstalling and reinstalling the lens distortion mod it looks

[sinful charm]

That's post processing removal mod

[rich finch]

Is it that one? There's a separate mod that's JUST the lens distortion

Either way making sure that mod is updated and removing/re-adding might help

[trim tangle]

I've only had it trigger on a new Proton prefix. Proton Experimental bleeding-edge caused this for me. :(

[rich finch]

Caused it for me trying some gamescope options for HDR...

[sinful charm]

Oh hmm is pp removal bad/worse then the individual options?

[rich finch]

Apparently treats each gamescope fiddling as new hardware

[rich finch]

I think the lens distortion alone was just made before the full suite. I know the full suite one you have to fiddle with for RenoDX to be happy.

(It's in the posts for RenoDX on Nexus on what to do)

[sinful charm]

I was going crazy on that last night and I ended up with one of the best viewing experiences in scarlet forest (with maxed settings and RT) but then I couldn't sustain 34 fps lol

[rich finch]

Also reminded I should re-add my reno setup and stuff with the update in case that update broke something.

Honestly just put ray tracing to low. Medium if low is too much. The difference between medium and high can be a lot of frames but not much visual.

I loose like 15 frames compared to high without high looking much better.

I was playing a lot with it in scarlet forest to see the difference between the two.

Low definitely doesn't look as good. Medium is leagues better. High is like...maybe? But not worth the frame loss.

[sinful charm]

Hmm I'll try medium, I went back to non-dlc high textures and RT off and sustaining 90fps with fg was mostly fine other than some stutters

[rich finch]

Oh yeah I turned the high textures off. Even with 20GB vram on my card it was...the streaming textures really kill it

Well the high res dlc textures

[sinful charm]

For such shit textures the pop in and stutters are ridiculous

[rich finch]

I know. Also a heads up

UNINSTALL the high rez don't just turn them off. If they're there it still makes it stutter.

Even capcom admitted it

And the vram estimator is...way off with the high res texture dlc. I opened AMD's ram usage to check the real and it was eating all 20GB pretty happily.

[sinful charm]

I unchecked it in steam dlc but ill check if it is still installed. For the regular textures I need to try the decompression tool because I hear it helps with stutters and pop in

[rich finch]

You're good if it's unchecked in steam and you let it update the game.

The decompression helps, but not as much as you'd think. At least on my rig. If your current stuff is worse it may

For decompression size. Expect about an increase of like 25%?

(in file size)

[sinful charm]

I only have 12gb vram but I figured if I was planning to upgrade in a few years that I would survive until better tech/optimisation standards because buying a gpu in late 2024/early 2025 was kinda cursed

[rich finch]

God if only optimization was catching up but they seem to be getting lazier.

Even my 20GB vram is struggling with the high res textures. And I bought this card FOR that extra vram safety.

It's the damn disk streaming

The stutters did seem lower...maybe I should try it again with the high res textures...

[sinful charm]

I think it's cus of year on year cost cutting on actual labor expenses and nvidia sponsorships pushing their proprietary solutions to "solve" essentially artificial problems

[rich finch]

Yeah. Especially since they're using framegen and upscaling to hit fps targets on strong systems instead of using those to benefit weaker systems.

[sinful charm]

I think it's more about brand recognition than actual market cap at this point considering that they're mainly a data center hardware supplier for AI these days

Will anybody think about the poor gamers

[rich finch]

They've flat out said that's their target market now. Only made scalpers hungrier. Buuuut we both sound like we could talk about it all day. u.u

So to end the convo.

Calling it now that Nvidia is going to abruptly go the way of voodoo.

Remember voodoo cards? Probably not.

[sinful charm]

I'm baby

[rich finch]

It was Nvidia before Nvidia. They used something called Glyde which is kinda like Vulkan is today. They ruled the roost with an iron fist and got complacent. Nvidia sweeped in and literally murdered them in cold blood.

[sinful charm]

Coincidentally back to your original point about no supply, the company I work for wanted to get into AI and couldn't even get supply on the good nvidia stuff because it's all been pre-ordered for months and years ahead by the mega companies

[rich finch]

[F]

[sinful charm]

Wow all I've ever known is amd and nvidia lol

[rich finch]

I DM'd you some images of them

[sinful charm]

Now even intel is on shaky ground for a lot of consumers I think, I'm going amd because it seems like their hw is consistently performing better (for my economic class) on the things I want to do

[rich finch]

It was complacency all around

[sinful charm]

Thanks 🙏

[rich finch]

Hey anything to teach youngins.

Help me I'm old.

Now then I'm gonna go take a breather and get some sleep after texture decompression

[sinful charm]

My best help is go back in time and take that whole bitcoin "mining" thing seriously even though it feels like worthless digital points
Hope that helps

[rich finch]

Ha if only. But then going back in time might make the bitcoin market collapse via butterfly effect.

Peace for now!

[sinful charm]

That's what I tell myself too

Gn !

[rich finch]

Also linked you an LGR video on voodoo's rise and fall. Pretty good watch.

NOW gn

[jovial yew]

Found the issue, it was the decompressed textures

[rich finch]

Now that's what I wouldn't expect

[jovial yew]

The renamed patch to 003 became 1kb in size after the small update.

[sinful charm]

I decompressed and replaced 2 files that Amu referenced here but I don't have the file in the dlc folder, I assume that's only if I have enough vram to do the high texture pack?

😵

[rustic bridge]

i don't use the dlc anymore

why do you have 9 patchs?

[sinful charm]

that's what I am saying

I only just used decompress tool on those 2 paks you referenced

I can't remember but it might have been from this "Performance Booster Re-Model" mod which is now apparently

[sinful charm]

Think I should just nuke the paks and verify integrity?

[rustic bridge]

i'll check later my files

[white wyvern]

That’s what I did.

With the base game field and uncompressed patches, you should be at patch.005 and then if you do the high res dlc pack then that’d be patch.006.

I uninstalled and reinstalled the game (too two hours of download + install) then started fresh.

But have made backups for all paks now so I can undo the uncompressed patches next time there is an update.

[trim tangle]

Shouldn't it be patch.005?

Ah, you're not replacing ~ I am

[white wyvern]

Yea, for base game textures, I go false/true so no replacement.

[trim tangle]

(patch_005 for me is Monster Weakness Icon Indicator for WILDS (Hi-Res))

[white wyvern]

true/true only for dlc.

[vital falcon]

Is there a step by step guide yet for decompressing the main game and dlc paks

[trim tangle]

Not officially... but it's easy enough to just replace the compressed paks:
But all I do is do true/true for re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak and re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_002.pak, backing up the vanilla files for future updates.
For dlc/re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak, true/true as well, backup vanilla file as usual.
Hardlink dlc/re_dlc_stm_3308900.pak.sub_000.pak to re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_004.pak.

Be prepared to need ~280GB of free space available, though...

Hardlinking won't consume any space, so it's fine.

[fading cape]

base game has 3

[fading cape]

frame gen is so buggy for me with wilds

it wont even let me it is on anymore it just instantly crashes

[craggy garden]

i am not really familiar with this kind of stuff, with the new amd reshade thing that got uploaded to nexus am i still supposed to uncheck all options?

[thin fjord]

Uncheck all options where?

[craggy garden]

on the reshade install but reading the nexus mod page better it never said to disable any of those effects just that they were an option

also i feel like that version made my plains looks much worse

actually i should have asked

if i dont have hdr

i imagine i dont need to turn it on in the settings

[thin fjord]

no need yeah

but games has only auto and off

so on auto it will detect you don't have it, so just leave it

no big deal

[merry tartan]

that only applies if you're using the disable post processing mod

tbh, idk if those settings mess with renodx in sdr

[craggy garden]

Thanks yall

[cerulean marsh]

I'm having an extremely hard time getting RENODX to look good

I use a Samsung odyssey g60 oled
I have contrast enhancer and peak brightness both off

It looks completely fine with HDR turned off

But as soon as I turn on HDR it washes everything out for some reason

which only started happening after I installed renodx

[thin fjord]

using any other mods?

[cerulean marsh]

Nope. I relaunched and it was working properly

[merry tartan]

since I know people were worried about how they were going to handle bans: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2246340/view/534347841813873218

[fading cape]

heads up nvidia users

[rich finch]

Welcome to the AMD driver land.

[fading cape]

works fine for me on my 4080s just a warning

from what i saw it was onlt 50 series users

and maybe shader cache issues so if you do upgrade delete the cache

[cloud vessel]

Works fine for me

[mossy shoal]

yeah, crashed after 10 mins, I rolled back to 572.37

[cloud vessel]

Are you on 50 series?

[mossy shoal]

I am 50 series, yep

[cloud vessel]

50 series getting L's nonstop wtf

[mossy shoal]

it was funny seeing people post higher 3dmark benchmark numbers with the new driver, which it does for me but I saw 0 improvement in games lol

[cloud vessel]

Or we talking about .02

[mossy shoal]

in fact lost 1-2% in most cases

nah, 50 series launch has been pretty awful

[cloud vessel]

No I ment the driver

576.02

I'm assuming so

[mossy shoal]

.02 yeah

[trim tangle]

Windows AMD drivers are fine, as far as I can tell ~ only issue has been the Seikret Alma mod :(

No other mod has caused crashes for me, even with extensive play

Linux AMD drivers don't crash with the Seikret Alma mod, curiously

[rich finch]

Well more related to world which was unable to play with most drivers for the majority of last year but yeah.

And same the linux drivers don't mod crash that much and thank you being another person that needs Seikret Alma

It's too cute.

[trim tangle]

World has also been fine for me?

[rich finch]

On the 7900 xt last year if you were playing from scratch AMD drivers after may caused crashes when certain shaders were triggered. Primarily the Zorah Mag fight had a guranteed crash when it would errupt. The DX11 mode would work around that crash, but would crash on its own after 45 minutes or so.

The Feb and earlier drivers or the pro ones were happy. It was fixed by about November.

Strangely it was almost exclusively the zorah fight but I was trying to do a new run.

[trim tangle]

Interesting. No wonder I never encountered a crash.

[rich finch]

I still wonder what it was because it was a really hard crash when zorah errupted. Freezing the whole OS hard.

[trim tangle]

Linux AMD drivers + vkd3d-proton ~ never had an issue

[rich finch]

Was on windows at the time

It's usually the windows drivers.

The linux ones are pretty heavily open source maintained and are much more stable.

[trim tangle]

I wonder, amusedly, if vkd3d-proton would fix anything, lol

[rich finch]

Probably. That translates the DX12 calls to vulkan yeah?

[trim tangle]

Might not be perfect, but it still works decently on Windows

[trim tangle]

Yeah

[mossy shoal]

AMD drivers are currently more stable than nvidia drivers on windows, tables have turned lol

[rich finch]

Unless you mod but yes.

Then again the whole 50 series is....weird right now. I hear how they're trying to yank what...50amps through one cable?

[trim tangle]

Every driver supporting RTX 5000 series somehow has major issues with older series cards, and Nvidia can't seem to fix them?

What the hell is even happening in their code

Is it duct-tape and glue?

[rich finch]

Wouldn't be surprised.

Also apparently they're pretty much ignoring standards and it seems to really be biting them now.

[trim tangle]

6 smaller cables from one end to another...

[rich finch]

I'm wondering if they'll go the way of Voodoo with getting in over their heads with so much spaghetti proprietary and then pissing off all the people that should be their consumers and business partners. I know EVGA stopped making cards because Nvidia would give them inaccurate specs I think so their cards would perform worse than the founders.

[trim tangle]

derbauer has done some pretty good analyses of it

[rich finch]

It'd be funny if the same way they killed Voodoo killed them.

[rich finch]

50 amps just doesn't sound good for those cables to any degree. I mean...

I know they're going to blame PSUs just like they did with their power spikes being uneven popping capacitors as the PSUs struggled with them. But you can't really blame a PSU for literally melting a cable.

From what I know some 40 series cards would use lower energy overall but had massive demand spikes when they spooled up.

[mossy shoal]

yeah, I got a 5080 and have tried every driver nvidia has released and they all have some persistent issues. gsync+hdr causes bsod in a lot of them

[fading cape]

Luckily I haven’t had much issues on my 4080s

They fixed a big issue I had with flickering on my oled in recent drivers so I couldn’t even rollback if I wanted

[trim tangle]

It's so weird how... random the issues are ~ some have constant issues, others experience almost nothing?

[fading cape]

I’ve had one black screen and some issues with frame gen but I fixed those somehow

Yeah idk it’s weird tho

[thin fjord]

I rolled back my drivers to version 566.36 a while ago

have not updated

[zinc sapphire]

that's good

[mellow turret]

Did capcom fix texture streaming in the latest update? when I log in today to play again after traveling for a whole week, I found the stutters are all gone

I mean when using the high res texture pack

[thin fjord]

what's your gpu?

[mellow turret]

4080

[thin fjord]

I have that same gpu let me reinstall hd textures and test

[shut violet]

interesting I will test it too, as soon as I rolled back the driver... 576.02 is very unstable

[thin fjord]

still in 566.36

[shut violet]

572.83 was fine

[mellow turret]

Just check vram usage, I’m pretty sure they did something

Previously when I’m turning the camera fast at the base camp and getting lots of stuttering the vram usage was full 16G. Now it’s about 13-14G

At the gathering hub it’s about 11g-12g now

[fading cape]

didn't they update the direct storage in tu1?

that was supposed to fix the vram usage

[thin fjord]

I tested after TU1 and it definitely wasn't fixed

if it was fixed it was in the recent hotfix

[fading cape]

there was general sutters for everyone regardless at the start of tu1 cause of the shader cache maybe you mistook it for that?

idk i haven't tested the hd textures either so

doubt it was fixed in the recent patch tho

if it wasn't before

[thin fjord]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/59218081147571798/DFFE9433CE7D6EEFF828C8F3F7BE2FACD6B58C6A/

not fixed

[mellow turret]

@thin fjord are you also using the Tex decompressor?

[thin fjord]

Not for high res

[mellow turret]

I’m using it, not sure if that makes a difference. However before today the game stutters even with the decompressed texture on my machine. I’m really not sure what is going on

[thin fjord]

Weird yeah, maybe driver update?

[cloud vessel]

Sometimes after a driver update the drivers don't recompile automatically

For some reason

I had to delete it manually

[modest ravine]

If you are using the textures decompressed, you may need to remake the hard link for the DLC textures.
So your improvements may be that the DLC textures aren't loading into the game.
VRAM usage without DLC textures is around 12GB for me.

For anyone who's curious in testing.
New update to direct storage dll released 11 days ago
https://www.nuget.org/packages/Microsoft.Direct3D.DirectStorage#versions-body-tab

[thin fjord]

might try later, still breaking my head making a luma mod

[mellow turret]

Thanks for the info. I made a copy of the decompressed DLC pak file in the root folder, which should serve the same purpose as the hard link

I don’t know if the newly added pak in the latest update affected the reading of the DLC pak

[thin fjord]

you can use the resource monitor to figure out if the file is being read

[mellow turret]

lol, just figured out what happened

previously my DLC pak in root folder is "re_chunk_000.pak.sub_000.pak.patch_003.pak". The latest update has a 1kb file with the same name, and capcom just overwrote my file with that 1kb file

[mellow turret]

remade the hard link and now everything back to normal again, including the stutters 😆

[thin fjord]

pain

[fading cape]

if anyone tries it lemme know how it works

[alpine tree]

Hey guys I've been wanting to get an OLED monitor and I've been wondering which do you guys think is better WOLED or QLED?

[night dirge]

https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1178744414957473842

[rustic bridge]

wait what, paul is mod now 😮

[shut violet]

And Musa too 😄

[rustic bridge]

gotta check high res textures later but i keep my expectations low

it will probably stutter

[shut violet]

yea, 16gb vram is not enough :/

even the high res textures look kinda low res tbh haha

[fading cape]

With the new direct storage update?

[rustic bridge]

my current files

capcom did update them in last update

oh it looks like i'm one version behind

yeah still stuttering, no surprise

[fading cape]

Even with 1.2.4?

[rustic bridge]

updating to 1.2.4

i got the files from nexus because the link above is source only

yes still stuttering with 1.2.4

nothing better than logging in, seeing the diva and having a beer!

my colors are a bit saturated, i turned off the vibrance

[rustic bridge]

https://www.monsterhunter.com/wilds/en-us/topics/unauthorized-modification-data/

are we in trouble?
We plan to implement additional countermeasures in future updates to detect users who have engaged in unauthorized modification of game data to prevent other players from being implicated in such actions.

[thin fjord]

Who knows

[shut violet]

we should not use uncompressed textures maybe

but yea who knows

[modest ravine]

Have you tried
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/1923

[rich finch]

This is what happens when people can't keep their cheats to themselves.

So a lot of public lobbies are flooded with hacked quests. There are hacked SOSs. There are one shotters going about. And the leaderboard for that limited quest with rewards for the top 20,000 was hacked to wazoo. So because people can't "enjoy themselves" in single player and insist on flooding public lobbies with it we all get to suffer.

[cloud vessel]

Checked the GitHub it's not gonna change shit

https://github.com/microsoft/DirectStorage/commits/main/

I highly doubt that's gonna change anything

[fading cape]

You deleted shader cache before?

[rustic bridge]

no

[fading cape]

well obviously ur gonna stutter then

[rustic bridge]

i always fear the recompilation of shaders 😛

i have "only" 8 cores/16 threads

[fading cape]

why even try the update then 😭

[leaden elbow]

It's actually helpful. I can now use ultra high texture without stutter

[rustic bridge]

you're right, it's working oO

i ran in circle in the hub and it's muuuch smoother

gpu decompression

cpu decompression

and the neat part is I'm using default compressed textures packs!

I reverted to avoid any potential ban

[verbal turret]

i'm guessing if you decompress them then it matters less

[rustic bridge]

4k hdr with high res textures

i'll test hunting tonight

[ebon tide]

ooh it's shiny

[rustic bridge]

what do you mean? is it too shiny?

[ebon tide]

no it looks good

[rustic bridge]

1k nits, it's clipping on the very bright highlights for me

heatmap with skiv

[shut violet]

without decompressing the textures?

[shut violet]

ah yea ok, interesting

It's awesome if it works

[white wyvern]

#1347155473266114580 message

I have been telling people this for over a week but no one listens. pepehands

High res texture pack has been running smoothly for a while now.

Uncompressed of course.

[rustic bridge]

even compressed it doesn't stutter!

it's game changer

I picked rey dau as first hunt with high res textures + the mod, it was perfectly smooth

[fading cape]

what all you change to help?

[shut violet]

are these thecorrect file sizes?

uncompressed

[fading cape]

looks the same as mine default

no high res

[shut violet]

yea the high res file is in the DLC folder

thanks

[fading cape]

the game keeps adding extra pak files tho

idk why

[rustic bridge]

mizutsune, high res textures + mod, another perfectly smooth hunt (fur is noisy because of fsr upscaling)

[shut violet]

it better than forcing users to redownload the huge pak files with major patches

[fading cape]

no like on top of updates

like i have 10 pak files now lol

[shut violet]

thats weird

[rustic bridge]

10?

how is that possible

[shut violet]

huh

weird

[fading cape]

last one has more in it

[shut violet]

12:41 AM

[rustic bridge]

pretty sure your pack 5 to 9 add nothing

[fading cape]

probably

even 10

4 is a mod tho

[shut violet]

oh

[rustic bridge]

so i can safely say the mod fixed the dlc textures stutters

the only downside using high res textures is stressing the ssd

i have a heatsink but i strongly advise to monitor your temperatures

[rich finch]

If only I wasn't still nervous about using mods after those cheaters flooded the leaderboard and got Capcom angry.

[fading cape]

so i uncompressed the 10th pak file and for some reason it's just a copy of the modded pak 004 file i added?

the 1kb pak files are literally just empty

why monster hunter

[west remnant]

May I ask? What's the highres texture compessed are you guys talking about?

[fading cape]

the high res dlc on steam

[west remnant]

Yes I already know about that. But I see you guys talk about "compressed" so is there a mod to make it run smoother or something?

[rustic bridge]

somebody made a mod to decompress the textures weeks ago but it didn't fix for people with 16GB VRAM

then somebody else made a simple fix days ago and it works with 16gb cards

[rich finch]

That was the GPU/CPU mod there right? I heard others say it didn't do much so I didn't try it yet.

[rustic bridge]

yes and it totally fixed the stutters for me

I have 16GB VRAM

[rich finch]

Which mode is it in? I have 20GB so I might try it...

I'm just nervous about the whole mod situation. BWEH

[west remnant]

what is the name of the mod? I can't find anything on nexusmods

[rustic bridge]

by default it forces GPU decompression

[rich finch]

This one I believe

[rustic bridge]

#1347155473266114580 message

[rich finch]

So...what do you all think? Do you think they're going to do something that'll flag REFramework stuff as a whole? Or do you think they're just going to put in sanity checks for posted SOS and mission stuff?

[rustic bridge]

time will tell i really hope they don't ban ref

it fixes so much stuff

[rich finch]

Man we wouldn't have to worry about this if it weren't for people blatantly running into public quests with one hit kill mods and putting up SOSs with hacked rewards. They just couldn't keep it in their pants.

Well...ugh. I'm too nervous...I'll keep my eye on news and stuff though and be sad awhile longer without any fixes. Bweh

[glacial plank]

does this still require more than 16gb vram?

[rich finch]

Uncompressed just removes the decompression step. The Vram should get hit just as hard, but the GPU and CPU will work less to load them up since they don't have to expand them.

[glacial plank]

tbh at this point I play the game so rarely that it's not worth it tinkering with it again since it runs well now xd

[rich finch]

Do expect the files to be 25% larger or so in my test, and every update you'll need to perform another decompression and fix anything weird.

Kinda surprised no one has made a simple powershell or cmd script to handle it

[rustic bridge]

scrolling nexus mods is funny at times 😄

[rich finch]

The mod that still scares me is the Seikret Poop Booster

It terrifies me

[shut violet]

the DLC texture pack is still stuttering tho

at 4K quality dlss

it's not that bad with GPU decompression, but still not perfect

I will test it with uncompressed textures

[rustic bridge]

weird, maybe it's smooth on my side because i had a driver update and recompiled my shaders?

[shut violet]

I recompiled my shaders

with high textures the game can hold 60fps just fine

it dips to low 50s with the dlc texture pack and gpu decompression

[rustic bridge]

really? I don't think it impacted my fps that much

gotta check

[shut violet]

I mean while moving the camera

[rustic bridge]

you're right, it's eating 10-15fps for decompressing

i'm used to fps dips though so i don't mind

and it's really smooth since it's gpu doing it itself

[rich finch]

I actually had to stop using them because I use SteamLink/Apollo & Artemis to stream to my phone and record things so I needed extra vram. I got 20 but high res textures takes the whole thing up

[rustic bridge]

i don't mind loosing fps for a short period as long as it doesn't stutter

[shut violet]

yea I will keep using the normal high texture pack too

[rich finch]

At least the textures aren't obviously lower. World definitely needed the higher res textures back at the time,.

I mean still hurts I can't have them. Still since the camera pan irritates it I wonder if they're culling textures out and then forcing them to stream back off the disk when they come into view.

Like there's no cache for things immediately nearby to stay loaded.

[rustic bridge]

well it's working as it should

thanks to direct storage

[shut violet]

I tested it with the decompressed DLC textures and I'm only loosing like 1-2fps now

[rustic bridge]

wow, you're really tempting me

[shut violet]

vram usage is around 14gb

[rich finch]

You'd think they could have a disk cache that say stores the decompressed on disk temporarily

[rustic bridge]

but the recent capcom news about data mod is really restraining me

[shut violet]

but no stuttering

[rich finch]

Absolutely the same. Until we know how they're going about it I'm being extra cautious myself. If only people didn't cheat so...rampantly obvious and in public lobbies.

Had someone butt into an SOS I was in just...came in. Not the host. Started one shotting phases.

[shut violet]

I don't really care tbh, even if they ban me from online play. I play solo 99% of the time

and the leaderboards are full of cheaters anyways

[rich finch]

I like joining SOS quests because I meet some cool people but this really makes it hard.

Had two hunting horns come in on a gravios hunt and they were just hillarious and really fun the whole fight. Then one started tbagging the monster.

I miss being able to do that without worrying so much about one shotters.

[rustic bridge]

funny enough they're a minority

[shut violet]

I like joining random people too, but I only do that if I'm bored

I mean I don't want to be baned for fixing the game

[fading cape]

sos wasn't working for me well earlier

[shut violet]

I don't think that they are banning mod users, as long as you are not actually cheating

[rustic bridge]

they probably detected people using ref since day 1

[shut violet]

they collect a lot of data during hunts, and they can easily detect cheaters

[valid trench]

How many patch fixes they dropped?

[rich finch]

God I hope...

[shut violet]

yea probably, people use ref to get infinite vouchers and stuff too

[rich finch]

I'm just worried because I don't wanna get the game again. That'd just kill me

[shut violet]

It's safer if you don't use mods and stuff

[rich finch]

Yeah...I'm not for now

I'll miss them though

[fading cape]

the game looks awful without mods

[shut violet]

I was not banned in world and I used a game speed modifier mod to speed up the endgame grinding lol

[rich finch]

To be fair at the very end they usually stop caring. That said personally I just use visual only. I'm willing to slam my head into things.

I wouldn't have such a hard head if I didn't!

[shut violet]

I used no mods for like 500 hours

I mean in World

[rich finch]

I think I hit 1000 before I started using any.

....it was a dark time for me and fighting odogaron was comforting because it let me zone out.

I have 438 oddie hunts in world don't judge me

[shut violet]

😄

[fading cape]

i just be playing rise recently

idk why i thought it looked bad at first

it looks better than wilds sometimes lol

[shut violet]

bazelgeuse was my comfort animal

[rich finch]

Giving myself a small break helped. And not focusing on multiplayer as much

Multiplayer in Rise was...is...bad

[rustic bridge]

bazelgeuse nova is superb

[rich finch]

Who thought to use steam download location as a region lock?

[fading cape]

just use mods

[rich finch]

Bazelgeuse was almost my comfort monster. He's definitely my comfort meme, though

[rustic bridge]

world really had epic novas

[rich finch]

Friends ends. But bazelgeuse is forever.

[rustic bridge]

teostra + his horny wife omg

[rich finch]

Bond formed == me screaming

[fading cape]

i hated him in world idk why everyone likes him tbh lol

[rich finch]

It's a love hate. We love to hate him. And that makes us fond

[shut violet]

Bazelgeuse's roar is awesome

[rich finch]

Odogaron was my comfort because he taught me I sucked at the weapon I'd used until that point and he forced me to get good.

After that point I just really liked fighting him

[shut violet]

Well I'm a bow main, big slow monsters hate bow users haha

[fading cape]

i really like barioth cause that was the first time i truely had trouble with a monster

he was a joke in rise tho

[rich finch]

Exactly. I think most of us, or at least me and you, find comfort in the monster that kicked our ass.

[shut violet]

It forced me to learn doging with a bow

[rich finch]

It forced me to stop using gunlance I think it was because I was using it all wrong.

Got me to use hammer. Long live unga bunga

(I'm using gunlance again in wilds. It's so much better with those guard points)

Oddie has some amazing hitboxes too. He's really great dodge and block practice. His patterns are also very learnable. 1-2-3-break 1-2-3-break and subtract or add one to the 1-2-3 depending on rage or exhaust.

Made me realize I could get better

[shut violet]

My first roadblock was Anjanath, because I was bad at "dancing" with the bow, and there was no auto target homming arrows in World haha

[rich finch]

My most fun with Anjanath is knowing that if you interrupt his sunbathing at the coast he'll rage immediately. Poor thing wants his sun tan

I think Rise bugged me because you couldn't observe the monsters like that.

Even though they DO do stuff like that. Did you know that Great Izuchi plays with the smaller ones? It's extremely hard to see because the agro distance is so huge

[shut violet]

I loved fighting Kiring too, I was really good at doging them, poor horse haha

[rich finch]

Namielle had the best sound design in the game though.

[shut violet]

oh yea

[rich finch]

Also the first elder I think was confirmed to have a relative. I believe it's confirmed related to chameleos

(figures the two best elders are related)

Chameleos stealing buffs was really fun

[shut violet]

I hated Rajang btw, I hate monkeys in general, and Rajang is the worst lol

[rich finch]

At least Congalala has fart jokes. Rajang just has dragonball Z and anger

I do wish world had the weather rest that wilds had though. But god knows I'd keep the ancient forest raining all the time

[shut violet]

I skipped Rise

[rich finch]

Rise was.....yeah.

A bit too arcadey for my taste. I hear sunbreak improved it a good deal, and I kinda wanna get there some day. But the monsters couldn't be really followed or admired, and the iframes were too tight because of wirebugs.

Also the sos system was garbage. It'd usually let you in as the quest ended.

One time I did 3-4 SOS in a row and they all ended as I spawned in

It also treats your steam download location as a region lock. So my NZ friend couldn't play with me or even see my squad.

(unless we modified steam's download locale)

[shut violet]

the wirebug and the palamute were kinda weird

[rich finch]

The palamute being a requirement killed them for me. Couldn't use a palico in multiplayer because you couldn't keep up with everyone else.

s'why I like seikrets and riders more

[shut violet]

I loved the hunting and exploration part of World

[rich finch]

Hear hear! Same

[shut violet]

it was missing form Rise and it's kinda missing from Wilds too unfortunately

[rich finch]

Following and seeing the monsters quirks and behaviors was amazing. I'm actually trying to do that in wilds now to see what they might do. Actually learned Barina is a passive monster unless irritated which was neat.

They'll just let you follow unless smaller monsters get their jimmies rustled

(or you touch their web sometimes)

Weirdly Rise had unqiue behaviors and stuff they'd do too, but like I said with great izuchi their agro range was so huge it's very hard to see

[shut violet]

Oh yea there are a lot of neat things in Wilds too, but it was toned down, you don't really have to find/study the monster anymore

[rich finch]

I do miss that a lot.

Let me stalk the monster creepily.

I want to see how they live

[shut violet]

haha yea

[rich finch]

Follow mizu sometime. They sometimes just blow a huge bubble.

Like a big one like bubble gum

[shut violet]

haha

[rich finch]

https://tenor.com/view/mizutsune-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-gif-4217562944951257192

Just they just do this

It was just fun in world seeing a monster start heading a particular way and going "Ah they're hungry I know where they're going to eat"

And beating them there

Gotta try doing it more in wilds I'm sure they do more I'm missing

If nothing else I can finally catch some turf wars in action

[shut violet]

Taking things slowly is rewarding, well if you like exploring and finding interesting/weird stuff

I need to catch that super fast rat like thing in the desert

haha

[rich finch]

So here's a tip on that one. They don't hint it WELL. They do hint it though

Screamer pods stun it

Still gotta be fast, though!

[shut violet]

oh nice lol

[rich finch]

That's why they harp on the "It hears well" so much

Turns out hearing well can cause problems too

[shut violet]

I'm still HR4 and I just found it without any info during a hunt

[rich finch]

They're fast buggers!

[shut violet]

yea I had little to no time to play haha

[rich finch]

Hey no shame in taking ones time

I'll be sure not to say much else, though

Now then I gotta prep for DnD. Good hunting!

[shut violet]

Thanks! Have fun!

[trim tangle]

Because you have weird old files that don't exist or do anything?

I have uncompressed and replaced pak files, a hardlinked uncompressed DLC pak, and a pak containing a bunch of repacked loose files alongside Monster Weakness Icon Indicator for WILDS (Hi-Res) repacked just because

[trim tangle]

Works just fine for me ~ decompress all with true/true, hardlink DLC pak, and it's fine

[trim tangle]

GPU decompression is how DirectStorage should normally be functioning, anyways.
Wilds is just being very strange by defaulting to CPU.

[thin fjord]

do you get the glitch in the food menu as well?

[rustic bridge]

i don't know

[cloud vessel]

It really shouldn't do anything unless you had a weird system that used cpu decomp

Even if the game reports CPU it's still using GPU decompression

Unless SK's reporting is borked

The reason it reports GPU decomp with that plugin is because it specifically goes and edits the text there

[rustic bridge]

thing is changing it really removes the stutters

[cloud vessel]

You might've had a system where it decided to use cpu decomp

Wait lmao

They fucking changed it in the title update

It uses cpu decomp by default now?

[rustic bridge]

it always did

i had stutters since beta 😄

[cloud vessel]

It didn't unless sk's reporting was broken

The game always reports CPU because it can't report literally anything else lol

It def wasn't cpu before because a ton of people were talking about disabling GPU decomp b4

They prob switched it with tu1

That plugin just lets you force it to one or the other

[rustic bridge]

something changed for sure

[cloud vessel]

And makes the UI report it properly

[rustic bridge]

before i couldn't play with high res textures without stutters

now i can thanks to this mod

[cloud vessel]

It might've always used CPU fallback for you

Probably depends on the system

[rustic bridge]

might be bug with amd cards

[cloud vessel]

Probably

Dunno why game defautls to cpu fallback now

Stoopid

[rustic bridge]

well the good news is the game doesn't stutter anymore with high res textures 😮

and i'm using compressed packs

[cloud vessel]

Maybe it doesn't use GPU decomp since I uninstalled the high res texture pack

Apparently they changed it

[trim tangle]

Which makes no sense at all, because the whole point of DirectStorage is the GPU bypassing the CPU

[cloud vessel]

I mean now it's acting like if there isn't any direct storage

[trim tangle]

Do you mean in the sense it's forcing the game to use the GPU compression path?

[trim tangle]

With the 1.2.4 update?

[cloud vessel]

No it literally changes the ui

In vanilla the game literally never reports GPU decomp even if it's working

That plugin does two things

What I think changes it to GPU decomp

And it also specifically checks for ui redraw calls to change the cpu text to gpu

Well to whatever you have set in the plugin

[cloud vessel]

Yes now it's using cpu

No GPU decompression whatsoever

Only cpu

Also apparently that plugin is cap

According to Kal from SK

But idk

[trim tangle]

I had an old hack REF script that changed to GPU compression, and it didn't change the text at all. But the game still reported GPU with it.

[cloud vessel]

Do you mean sk reported gpu

[trim tangle]

The mod or the DS update mod?

[trim tangle]

No, the game did

[cloud vessel]

The mod

[trim tangle]

Crap? How?

[cloud vessel]

Kal said he tried forcing GPU decomp back on

Never worked

[cloud vessel]

You said the text didn't change from CPU tho

[trim tangle]

Maybe Wilds is just that broken

[cloud vessel]

No after TU1

[trim tangle]

I did ~ I've seen it change in the in-game UI

[cloud vessel]

The game always used GPU decomp before TU1

No longer does

Always uses cpu

[trim tangle]

Maybe they forced it off somehow...

Fucking Capcom

[cloud vessel]

They did

[trim tangle]

"No fun allowed"

Well, we can still decompress ourselves, so fuck off Crapcom

[rustic bridge]

whatever the reason i'm very happy i can play wilds with high res textures without stutters now

at some point i'll decompress textures again but it can wait

[thin fjord]

what gpu do you have and what settings are you using if you don't mind sharing

seems to run worse for me when I set it to gpu, tanks my fps

[trim tangle]

Are you GPU-bound?

[thin fjord]

arcording to special k yeah

[trim tangle]

It's probably better to be GPU-bound in Wilds, if you can wrangle it, given how shit the engine is with CPU stuff

[rustic bridge]

5700x3d + rx 9070xt
4k ultra preset with fsr4 quality (1440p rendering)

[thin fjord]

And you get 60fps?

Damn the 9070xt is a beast my 4080 can't do 4k quality at all. Not even close

[rustic bridge]

more likely 50-60

it can dip to 40

the game is to blame being unoptimized

[thin fjord]

Yeah it's rough

I'm using 4k performance

[rustic bridge]

the engine scales poorly to the resolution

tossing ultra performance doesn't equal 2x fps

[shut violet]

It runs fine on my 4080, semi-stable 60fps, but I run the game at 3840x1646 with DLSS quality.

[trim tangle]

@rustic bridge @thin fjord
7800X3D + 7900XTX here
1440p with FSR3.1 Quality nets me between 50 and 100fps, depending on the area of any map. Pretty nutty scaling.

That's at Ultra, too, with a few tweaks like turning off depth of field and other bits of nonsense I don't like

[thin fjord]

Custom resolution?

[shut violet]

yea

to fix the weird aspect ratio

[rich finch]

I keep trying to use a custom to fix my ultra wide aspect ratio and failing. Anyone know one that'll work on a 3440x1440?

[thin fjord]

I can run 1440p quality no issue. But 4k is a different thing

[shut violet]

3440x1474 + REF widescreen fix

[rich finch]

If it helps with 4k performance, and this is probably sacriledge some places, running at 1080p shouldn't look too bad on a 4k. The resolutions scale up perfectly so a 1080p shouldn't look scaled blurry just like a normal 1080p. (A phone I had actually did this. Since 4k is a perfect multiple it just used every 2x2 set of pixels as one to render the UI smaller)

[rich finch]

The REF is what I'm too nervous to use right now. Bweh

[shut violet]

with 3440x1474 you will have a one pixel tall grey line at the bottom of the screen

REF fixes that, but it's not that big of a deal if you don't want to use REF

[rich finch]

Yeah a one pixel line is fine since my OLED changes the screen alignment by at least that much every minute or so

(Burn-in protection)

So that resolution will save my bacon

[shut violet]

yea it should work fine

[shut violet]

MHW looks a lot better in widescreen mode imo 😄

[thin fjord]

I used to have an ultra wide screen but I didn't quite like it. I do a lot of productivity work as well and it got in the way

I just use my mod to increase camera distance a bit. That'll have to do

[rich finch]

I actually use an ultra wide for my programming which is why I mostly get them. Helps with IDEs.

[thin fjord]

I prefer dual monitor setup

[shut violet]

I use a 16:9 OLED screen for my widescreen needs haha, I just make sure to watch both 16:9 and 21:9 content

to prevent uneven panel aging

[rustic bridge]

new event

and yes my artian weapon looks aweful

it doesn't match my mizu skin

[rich finch]

I use an auto background changer and hide the task bar. It's games that have me the most worried.

(The changer pauses if certain executables are running since it can cause small stutters in 3d apps if the desktop changes while they play)