✅RenoDX: MH Wilds

[orchid drum]

Yep RCAS play at lot in the final render, used 0 and 100 in those ones. 100 is too much

[meager tendon]

My default is 1000 but should always go by your own monitors peak brightness

[lunar ibex]

I dont know about that. Why does it look better

It just looks different

A lot darker

It also causes some issues as the game wasnt built for fixed

[modest ravine]

Tested all the versions you sent, attached logs from each, included some screenshots. oddly enough, the water looks fine when i start the game with water effects disabled once i turn it on, it goes all white water, and adds the square. clip of me running through the water to show the ripple effect is working lol capcom

[lunar ibex]

It will be default set to whatever you have it set at on the hdr profile usually b

Which migjt change depending on if your profile got deleted by windows

[meager tendon]

There are some spots that are significantly improved on fixed but I prefer vanilla overall

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347155473266114580/1352023557445779577/hdr10_clipboard.png?ex=67dc818f&is=67db300f&hm=c3cb65c4992b3d62a019f2bc7ee29d5d63aa8c92d5ee66bca9b235144b35a7c7&

This spot especially

[lunar ibex]

I find the open areas look nicer but the ice cave looks rough

Cos it does darkness better

But the ice was built with that overexposure in mind

I had a lot of hdr issues with world too i could never get the snow to look right

Meanwhile getting the night sky to look like a night sky... man

[meager tendon]

The lights in that area specifically don’t come anywhere close in vanilla

[distant oar]

Local exposure tends to look worse in most areas because it tries to expose everything equally. Fixed Exposure sets a Fixed Exposure all of the time. This means that dark areas can actually get dark while still allowing brighter details in the scene to reach higher brightness levels -> This means that dynamic range will be improved in most scenes

[thin fjord]

rcas is so strong event a 10 I can see sharpening artifacts

[meager tendon]

Even at 1 I can notice stuff in super bright areas

[thin fjord]

yeah the difference between 0 and 1 is drastic

[merry tartan]

rcas should pretty much only be used with fixed exposure

but yes that's why it's important that 0 = off and not feeding a value of 0 through the shader, cause 0 still adds sharpening

[night dirge]

Why?

[merry tartan]

the way vanilla exposure works gives the image an aggressively oversharpened look already

[night dirge]

Hmm I see
I have an idea for improving RCAS, so it can be done post tone mapping

[frosty osprey]

Hi Prince, I tried the ShaderToggler you recommended , put the addon and .ini file into the game directory right ? But I dont see any setting showup in reshade ? it does load the shadertoggler, but where to see the slider or toggle ?

[scenic carbon]

i havent been keeping up with recent changes, i just downloaded 3.7.0 from nexus. No more luminance sliders?

Never mind, had to turn in game hdr off then on to see them

[frosty osprey]

for some reason I have to this too everytime I rebooted the game to see the complete UI sliders

[gritty ingot]

Is there any mods i need to use (besides rframework) or settings i need to change in the game to have the best possible hdr experience in wilds while using renodx?

[meager tendon]

I would say the lens distortion removal mod is worth throwing in

[gritty ingot]

This one?
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/245

[meager tendon]

ye

[gritty ingot]

Thanks ill try it out later and see how it works

[meager tendon]

npnp

[dense dew]

I love this effect!

[dense knot]

Higher values (up to 1) increase highlights

[gritty ingot]

Just want to confirm if my hdr understanding is correct

If my monitor's peak brightness is 600, I should set the peak brightness in the Reno menu to 600 to match my monitor's brightness. Am I correct?

[dense knot]

Yes

[white wyvern]

Build (3.7.1) in the pins is the latest? Because it’s a whole 14 hours old! Three new versions would have come out during this long.

[dense knot]

Minor sharpness fixes

[gritty ingot]

Thank you. I'm so blown away by the amount of information and customization in PC gaming. On my Switch, it's just plug and play lol.

[dense knot]

It's both a blessing and a curse lol

But for games like MH Wilds, I'm thankful we can fix it

[white wyvern]

Yessir!
You can plug and play on PC too. In fact, majority of PC gamers are not tech savvy. They just buy, install and play.
But then if you’ve the interest and you’re just a tiny bit tech savvy, you can get a more more out of PC gaming.

[dull osprey]

Hi guys, does anyone have a clue if it's me or just how it is supposed to be? notice the clear cut in the sky within the screenshot to the right, left vanilla tone mapper, right is renodrt tone mapper

[white wyvern]

Can you highlight it with a box or something?

[dull osprey]

see the wash in the middle

[white wyvern]

Aah yes, now I see.

[dull osprey]

I'm using the latest build if that helps

[glacial plank]

looks great! 🙏

[dense knot]

Sadly, I don't think I can fix this issue without an AMD GPU

[glacial plank]

you can see the banding in the first screenshot too, but it's masked by other factors in the game

so I'd assume it looks worse in the second screenshot because the clarity of the picture overall improved, so the ugly artifacts are more noticeable as well. Pretty sure you can fix this with "deband" filter in reshade if that bothers you though

[cerulean acorn]

What is the HDR calibration app I see metioned sometimes?

[glacial plank]

I think people refer to lilium analysis tool shader in reshade when they mention that, but if not - no idea

[thin fjord]

the windows calibration tool

to set your peak brightness

[alpine tree]

But thats only on windows 11 right?

[thin fjord]

unsure if it's available for 10

[ebon tide]

yeah and it's not mandatory

[cerulean acorn]

It isn't that's why I was wondering where I set my peak brightness for RDX

[thin fjord]

is it detecting the wrong one?

[cerulean acorn]

I have no idea, but usually in games you have to set it

But I don't know where to check what its decting

[thin fjord]

what monitor do you have and what value do you get when you run RDX?

press HOME button and open rendox

and check the peak brightness value

[cerulean acorn]

Its getting 1000 in defaults, which is almost right

[ebon tide]

reno has a slider to adjust

[cerulean acorn]

So I take the Filmic or a shared preset and set peak brightness to what my screen can achieve?

[thin fjord]

pretty much

[wanton belfry]

Peak brighness should be automatically set

Use the windows hdr app

[cerulean acorn]

On Win 10, no such app

Anyway, I set the slider on the latest prince to 1100, just wanted to make sure

Its an ASUS PG34WCDM btw, it'll do 1100 if you set things correctly.

but only 1000 with default settings, which i guess its why its reporting 1000 to windows

Btw, is there a way to input a number via the ui, or do I have to edit the preset in the config file to do that?

[wanton belfry]

Should we adjust the slider for the peak 2% or 10%

[cerulean acorn]

That's also a great question

[wanton belfry]

Because some monitors have like a 1100 2% and a 700 nits 10%

[cerulean acorn]

Yep

[thin fjord]

ctrl + click

[cerulean acorn]

Exactly what mine has

[ebon tide]

your peak

always the highest peak

[cerulean acorn]

So the 1%?

[ebon tide]

yeah

[cerulean acorn]

[brisk lily]

actually it should be the clipping point

not the peak brightness value

[ebon tide]

I still don't understand how a lower clipping point can push higher brightness, what's the point of it 😛

i've been explained 4 times and I still can't wrap my head around that

[brisk lily]

no

most of the you get a higher clipping point than your peak

not all displays support hgig

a typical example might be the sony woleds

they are 600-800 peak

but it has a fixed 1000 nits tone mapping target

if you set maxtml to 800, you dont get 800 nits peak

you need set the peak brightness to 1000

whether its in game or system level calibration

[distant oar]

The best thing to do is probably to use the windows hdr calibration tool an check where peak brightness actually clips.

[cerulean acorn]

Not an option for those of on linux or win 10, is there another way to find it?

[ebon tide]

use special k profile display capabilities

[glacial plank]

you can also get a profile from someone's win11 calibration from what I remember reading

oh nvm I read the question wrong, you want to figure out your peak

[distant oar]

Most people will probably be fine by just setting peak brightness equal to their monitors specs. There are probably other tools out there that can be used to calibrate hdr on linux etc. the hdr analysis shader by lilium can also be used to check if your game is clipping highlights or shadows

SpecialK does also have HDR analysis tools

[cerulean acorn]

Right, I'll check with SK later then.

[dense dew]

should i turn on RTX HDR?

[zinc sapphire]

no

use Renodx

[rustic bridge]

time to try the new version

shaders compilation 😢

[rustic bridge]

the new rcas is clean

off vs reno rcas at max

sharpening shader toggled off

fsr4 ingame cas vs fsr3 ingame cas

fsr4 uses a slightly more aggressive cas

the forced sharpening (use shader toggler to disable it)

very light lumasharpen (reshade)

[robust phoenix]

can someone link shader toggler again please, sorry for the trouble

[merry tartan]

I still don't understand why it works for you guys still and not me

[rustic bridge]

you're using fixed exposure which disables the shader using the sharpen effect

[merry tartan]

no I mean it breaks the entire output

regardless of exposure type

oh....I'm a dumbass

[rustic bridge]

oh i forgot i'm talking to the person who did discovered the shader haha

[merry tartan]

I forgot I was messing with it earlier and left a bunch of shaders toggled

[rustic bridge]

you're a hero jon

[merry tartan]

used it to save a series of shader hashes in rendering order before the devkit worked

[rustic bridge]

that sharpen is ugly

[merry tartan]

no wonder everything breaks, I'm disabling 10 shaders

[rustic bridge]

i just toggle off that sharpening

i don't mind other effects

[merry tartan]

okay I fixed it on my end now lol

[rustic bridge]

except chromatic and lens distortion

chromatic disabled in config.ini
lens with a lua script loaded by ref (taken from nexus)

[rustic bridge]

copy paste in your game folder, you have nothing to do, it's disabled by default

[merry tartan]

zip file for it

[rustic bridge]

i hate zip :/

[merry tartan]

has anybody noticed any effects breaking when using the shadertoggler setup to remove sharpening?

[rustic bridge]

nothing special to me

[merry tartan]

if nothing breaks with it, I'm gonna add it back into renodx. With RCAS being in here, if there are no downsides, it should simply be off all the time imo.

[rustic bridge]

that would be handy

at low strength the fsr cas is super clean
reno rcas 0.2 vs ingame cas 0.2

reno rcas 0.5 vs ingame cas 0.5

my definitive settings, ingame cas 0.2 + light lumasharpen

untouched vanilla+, it looks promising!

[merry tartan]

really trying to look for anything disabling this shader could be breaking and so far I'm not seeing anything

[rustic bridge]

enjoying rey dau hunting with the new vanilla+, I'm very happy

[merry tartan]

discovered that the filmic preset accidentally works really well in SDR

not without faults though lol

[rustic bridge]

tuned vanilla+

i can maybe reduce the highlight

i don't get why the artists emphasize the yellow tint
vanilla vs tuned vanilla+

i could increase the blowout to desaturate a little, otherwise paul would yell at me XD

daytime, no clipping on clouds

[robust phoenix]

thank you so much friennd.

[gritty ingot]

What does a shader toggler do?

[rustic bridge]

it's a powerful addon of reshade, it allows to on/off some shaders

in our case, the forced sharpening shader

so we can replace it by a better one like cas/rcas

[gritty ingot]

Is it needed when using the reno mod?

Ill try it out tomorrow

[rustic bridge]

you should, it's really better with forced sharpen off

the toggle key is " . "

caps is to toggle hud and / to toggle the fog

i'm on azerty keyboard, it might be different for qwerty sorry

you can customize your key here

[merry tartan]

oh I didn't realize someone built out a config for more things, nice

quick hud toggle is nice

[rustic bridge]

copied from nexus 😛

[gritty ingot]

Thank you. So excited to try it out and play whole day long on weekends.

[tawdry horizon]

What value did you have lumasharpen set to?

[shut violet]

you can use the shader toggler to disable the "sharpening" with vanilla exp tho 😄

[merry tartan]

do you know if there are any effects or anything that break when doing that?

[shut violet]

nope

[merry tartan]

we removed the option from the mod because it wasn't what we initially thought and figured things would break

[shut violet]

it seems to work fine

[merry tartan]

but as far as I can tell nothing breaks and it just solves the problem

[shut violet]

yea haha

[merry tartan]

and if that's the case, I'm gonna bake it into reno

[shut violet]

disabled vanilla "sharpening" + hdr rcas looks a lot better than the vanilla sharpening without rcas

[merry tartan]

yeah

I wouldn't even make it an option in the mod, there's no situation where it should be enabled if no effects break

I'm gonna put up a test build that has it as an option in case anybody wants to test and try to find things that break

I spent some time trying all kinds of things to see if anything breaks and couldn't find anything, but tbh I'm not sensitive to issues like that

[shut violet]

I'm more afraid of the first big capcom update haha

[merry tartan]

I honestly don't think they're gonna improve the visuals of the game

I doubt they mess with these shaders, but we'll see I guess

[shut violet]

yea we will see

btw denuvo was not removed from dragons dogma 2 which means a big DLC is comming ( I hope lol)

[dense knot]

Director left Capcom already

[merry tartan]

Test Build for QA volunteers!

• add toggle for vanilla exposure sharpening

Please try to find things that break by turning vanilla exposure sharpening on/off.
Also, please don't use shadertoggler or post processing mods while testing!

If you've tested for a while and can't find anything, that feedback would be just as appreciated! Don't hesitate to ping me about it.

[shut violet]

sad news :/

[merry tartan]

doesn't necessarily mean there won't be DLC, but it is potentially sad news about anything new in the series 😦

miraculous that it can be called a series at all though

the game did sell quite well though, I feel like it would be a mistake if they didn't make an expansion

[distant oar]

I feel bad for never finishing Dragons Dogma 2. I should probably give it a try again.

There was a other release that grabbed all my time and attention but I cant remember what it was lol

[shut violet]

Rise of the Ronin/Stellar Blade?

or maybe Unicorn Overlord! which was awesome

[distant oar]

Sadly none of those. But I do plan to play all of the games you just mentioned

[shut violet]

Stellar Blade is commint to PC in june!

[distant oar]

I tried the Stellar Blade demo but the performance was abysmal. But I just realized that hey will release it for PC in june

[queen girder]

hello, is there a guide on how to use the shader toggler to turn off the foced sharpening? I can't figure out how to use this

[dense knot]

Use pinned QA build

[crisp steppe]

the same goes for devil may cry, i don't know who will be directing dmc 6 now that hes left

i mean hideki kamiya (dmc 1 director) is now doing okami for capcom under his new studio but idk if he would want to work for dmc again

[merry tartan]

I'd be kinda surprised if there isn't somebody higher up at capcom that wants to see DMC continue

[wicked spindle]

so what is the consensus on using the Disable Post Processing Effects mod and renodx together? does it cause any issues?

[crisp steppe]

yeah but idk capcom has always had a love hate relationship towards dmc, we had to wait 11 years for dmc 5 although the reboot came out between dmc4 and dmc5

i want to see if the rumours about a remake of dmc 1 are true

[merry tartan]

dmc5 sold 10 million copies though

[crisp steppe]

and if im not mistaken dmc 6 was the top voted game on a poll that capcom made about what game should they made

at least we have lost soul aside (that chinese dmc like)

[merry tartan]

I hope that game is good

[distant oar]

You shouldnt change the exposure and color correction settings in the post processing removal mod

Im not sure if there is much use for the Post processing removal mod when using renoDx

[merry tartan]

unless you're a fucktaa person, I think most people would just want the lens distortion removal mod instead, when using renodx.

[wicked spindle]

okay cool, that's kind of what i figured. I will remove post processing mod and add the lens distortion removal mod instead

[distant oar]

True. But I dont think there are that many people that play without upscaling when you think about wilds optimization

[merry tartan]

very true lol

[wicked spindle]

if i'm using special k what is the correct way to install reshade and renodx to ensure compatibility?

[distant oar]

There are multiple ways. I use central Installation and havent had any issues yet https://wiki.special-k.info/en/SpecialK/ReShade

[lunar ibex]

Install reshade into special k and then renodx into reshade

If you install reframework and special k together youll have issues

[distant oar]

Works fine for me. Just load it as Special K Plugin

[lunar ibex]

Using reshade with reframework is way easier than with special k

[distant oar]

Both are easy if you follow the Special K instructions

[lunar ibex]

It was like... a lot more paths to follow, and then most mods used reframework instead

I suppose installing reframework into special k could solve the problems

But yeah special k worked with wilds on day 1

[distant oar]

Yeah, just follow this, drop the REFramework file in a new folder in the third party plugins folder in special k and load it as plugin in the special k UI

[lunar ibex]

So i installed a mod or two onto there before i installed renodx

Awesome

[wicked spindle]

hmmm i installed reframework normally and have been using it with specialk this whole time without issue

[distant oar]

REFramework mods still need to be placed in the REFramework folder inside the mh wilds game folder

[wicked spindle]

i'll still try doing it this way tho just in case

thanks

[distant oar]

Dont bother with it if it is working

its essentially the same thing

[lunar ibex]

I had issues but it may well have been thinggs like shader compilation which i didnt know about yet

[wicked spindle]

something to keep in mind i guess if i ever do run into any issues

[lunar ibex]

Or clashing mods

Since the mod i used changed the same
Things i was using reframework for

[merry tartan]

my setup is special k injected as a service (skif). Just loaded with SKIF %COMMAND% in the game's launch options. Then I have local reframework and reshade installations, but reframework is renamed from dinput8.dll to reframework.dll and reshade is renamed from dxgi.dll to reshade64.dll. SK auto loads them with those names. Works flawlessly.

[lunar ibex]

Im sure it does but thats a lot of steps most people dont know about 😭

[thin fjord]

if you have Pak mods for Wilds renaming it reframework.dll may cause the game to crash on startup because of the load order. Should be fine otherwise but worth keeping in mind.

[merry tartan]

yeah the whole situation is a pain. Needing 3 different pieces of software for the game to behave like it should have at launch is goof.

[merry tartan]

good to know

[lunar ibex]

I showed someone the vanilla look vs reno yesterday and they were like yeah mh wilds is such an ugly looking game considering it is the most demanding game
On the market outside of modded minecraft

And the mod really brings to life the colours and shading it always shouldve had

[outer lodge]

does Lilium's RCAS use gamma or linear mode in Reno?

[tawdry horizon]

I've been using Shadertoggler and it doesn't seem to do anything.. I toggle it on and off and nothing changes. Sharpness stays the same as far as I can tell. I'm using the disable post processing effects mod if that makes a difference. But I only use that to disable lens distortion and film grain, everything else is on.

Only things that noticeably affect sharpness in my game are Reshade (lumasharpen) and Reno

[merry tartan]

doesn't do anything with fixed exposure

only vanilla

also the latest version I posted means you don't need it and I'd appreciate more testers to make sure nothing breaks with it 🙏

[rustic bridge]

arkveld hunt in the desert, still tuning my optimal preset

hudless as bonus

[languid sparrow]

Which preset should I use to test the test version you posted? Vanilla+?

[merry tartan]

Anything you want with vanilla exposure

[languid sparrow]

Got it.

[merry tartan]

I don’t think anything is gonna break, but if we’re gonna delete a shader by default I’d want to be sure. With rcas integrated I genuinely don’t think there’s any reason to provide the option to keep it, it’s flat out inferior.

[tawdry horizon]

Okay. Thanks. And I will test it out!

[rustic bridge]

spoiler alert: the darkest monster (endgame)

a bit messy to take capture, i use that monster to test the black crush

[rain sigil]

How to choose between vanilla exposure and fixed exposure?

[vital hedge]

Hello, I have a question, when I installed RenoDX, my game got way darker, especially if I use renoDRT tone mapping, is that how renodx works or is it because of my monitor? My monitor is xg27aqdmg

[ancient ibex]

look for "brightness adjustable" (off by default), enable it and set brightness to 100 in monitor settings (note: may burn in faster?) . did you use the hdr calibration app? calibrate and click the reload button next to peak brightness in renodx to set monitor's peak brightness and paperwhite

hdr calibration app (Windows 11 only because microsoft sucks) https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9N7F2SM5D1LR?hl=en-us&gl=US&ocid=pdpshare

[vital hedge]

yeah I used the app to set my peak brightness to 1000 nits but i dont see the peak brightness settings in renodx

also idk why the screenshot appears way brighter for me than the actual game

[meager tendon]

Vanilla exposure?

[thin fjord]

is in game hdr on?

[meager tendon]

Doesn't look like it

[vital hedge]

ye

[thin fjord]

amd gpu?

[vital hedge]

nvidia rtx 3080

[thin fjord]

not sure what's going on, reno seems to not be detecting your game is in hdr

[vital hedge]

after i restarted the game and then turned hdr off and on again in game all the brightness settings showed up

[vital hedge]

i tried taking screenshot with snipping tool and it looks the same with what i have

i can barely see my character during night time so it really sucks if i do hunts in night time cuz i cant even see the monster either

[thin fjord]

what preset are you using?

try increasing shadows or reducing flare

[vital hedge]

vanilla preset

Also increased shadows and reduced flare but didnt show any significant changes

Its like barely brighter

I even set the game brightness to max in renodx which is 500 but its no different

[thin fjord]

what is your monitor?

[meager tendon]

Definitely not how your game should look somethings definitely up with your game

Especially if your sliders aren't working how they should

Id just start fresh

[vital hedge]

Xg27aqdmg

[thin fjord]

should be fine idk

[merry tartan]

this is substantially darker than anything should ever look with the vanilla settings.

if you're using the post processing removal mod, make sure none of the grading things are being removed

for troubleshooting, removing that mod would be ideal

[vital hedge]

removing the mod seems to do the trick for me

the game got noticeably brighter

[merry tartan]

if the mod is disabling the grading or luminance stuff, it will break renodx. It does a lot of stuff by default...

fixed exposure with pregrade selected should achieve similar results to the grading stuff it does

if you just want lens distortion removal, I'd recommend using that standalone mod instead

[vital hedge]

yeah I'll keep that in mind, thank you everyone for the help

[night dirge]

@dense knot move RCAS after tone mapping (make sure to adjust the normalisation to what nits 1.0 is)

[languid gyro]

kinda unrelated but feel the need to PSA
apparently players have been banned for using the inf character edit mod too many times & a chinese one for dlc unlocking, careful

im assuming theyre only banning modders that hurt their bottom line but never hurts to be safe

[merry tartan]

makes sense

well, motivations make sense at least

[languid gyro]

actually im a bit unsure on the chinese guy theres 2 crowds of people saying it was for dlc unlocking and the other for posting cheated quests

same difference though

no way this is real right

praying this doesnt catch on to other regions

[ancient ibex]

uh oh.... i've used the infinite character edit a few times

[languid gyro]

i think if it doesnt surpass the amount you can buy in store you might be good? that ban happened two days ago and theres a chance he got reported by a troll by pure chance if we're taking the 'chinese wizards' into account

i feel like we'd see more cases since a lot of players use that mod

playing with randoms does seem a bit dangerous now though

or maybe he joined a modded quest by accident and got caught in the crossfire, its hard to say without the details

[merry tartan]

in general though, probably a bad idea to get in the way of their money if you care to play online

even if it's bullshit that they wanna charge for it...

[ancient ibex]

yeah. i'm not changing anymore. got one i like https://mhwcreationcodes.com/alucard-castlevania-by-thereht

"hot" "girl" tags lol... don't know who submitted it (wasn't the author, that got credited later) but that's funny

[waxen rose]

The default settings for the vanilla preset were far too dark on my AW3423DWF 1000nits OLED monitor, but increasing shadows from 50 to 60 seemed to eliminate crushing blacks leaving everything else at default. Posting this for posterity in case anyone else uses a similar monitor and wanted a vanilla look with better black levels and saturation.

[rustic bridge]

yes

[dense knot]

RCAS samples the adjacant pixels so I'll have to tonemap those too, and there's no shader after output with the tonemapped texture 😕

[dense knot]

In AC shadows thread someone found out that injecting reshade through SK lowers performance

[white wyvern]

I’m currently not using any SK feature except frame limiter. Tried without SK and game didn’t feel smooth at all. May be its placebo.
But right now we’re at the mercy and REF and SK. Hopefully they’ll remove denovu soon and then we can do away with these.

My current mod list. lol. Its basically all QOLs and no gameplay change. Anything that lets me go from one hunt to the next without doing any chores.

And overlay only for checking player dps. so I can call out plebs so I can see if I'm doing my rotations well compared to other players.

[dense knot]

You can use SK, just load Reshade locally (dxgi.dll)

Don't use SK to load reshade

[white wyvern]

Aah, okay. Makes sense.

[languid sparrow]

Your game looks so much better than mine. Can you share your settings / setup? I'm getting confused with all the sliders and toggles. Maybe I'm just messing around with too many things.

I'm about to delete every mod and reshade, etc. and start back from step 1.

[rustic bridge]

copy/paste in your reshade.ini

[renodx-preset1]
ColorGradeBlowout=60
ColorGradeContrast=47
ColorGradeExposure=1.02
ColorGradeFlare=50
ColorGradeHighlights=52
ColorGradeHighlightSaturation=55
ColorGradeLUTColorStrength=100
ColorGradeSaturation=50
ColorGradeShadows=50
FxExposureStrength=53
FxExposureType=0
FxFilmGrain=0
FxLUTExposureReverse=0
FxLUTScaling=50
FxSharpness=0
FxVignette=0
SwapChainCustomColorSpace=0
ToneMapGameNits=201
ToneMapPeakNits=603
ToneMapType=1
ToneMapUINits=299

nothing fancy, just a working preset on my non oled monitor

with no clipping, no black crush

[languid sparrow]

Thank you. Will give it a try tonight when I get home.

[rustic bridge]

i can't guarantee it will work on your monitor

[shut violet]

it should be the other way around 🤔

[languid sparrow]

I'll test it either way. It's just incredible the difference between our game. My game is like way darker than yours.

[frosty osprey]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/1047?tab=files

pretty interesting

now I can watch Alma for a real close distance

[wanton belfry]

Holy shit this has anoyed me so much

Does it work

[ancient ibex]

i don't have any problems with vanilla+ in true black 400 mode. are you using anything else like remove post processing mod? that messes it up

[languid sparrow]

You using it? What's your opinion? The dithering is irritating especially when the monsters just disappear when you're fighting them.

[merry tartan]

Getting rid of it entirely could be dangerous for performance. It’s very bad for memory bandwidth to render an entire screens worth of high res transparency.

[merry tartan]

Hm, I’ll need to test.

[thin fjord]

you can tweak it so it only applies to npc/monsters and not field objects which is exactly what I want

mod works great

[dense dew]

Some new shots

[distant oar]

Thanks for letting us know! I will also need to test this

[rustic bridge]

nice fire

[merry tartan]

at least in a GPU bound scenario, my framerate is identical with framegen off

between loading it as reshade64.dll and dxgi.dll

same FPS with framegen as well, between loading as reshade64 and dxgi, also GPU bound

[tender pasture]

Hi, I have a quetion. In filmic presets, it looks dark while im applying Iai slash effect (longsword). Usually it should be a blur effect without brightness changing (The Vanilla presets works well but it's a little too bright for me)) Does anyone know how to fix that?

[rustic bridge]

try to adjust the contrast slider first, exposure secondly

[ebon tide]

no these are sdr

aaaaaaaaa

[distant oar]

That sounds like the flashing Problem. Do you use the Post processing removal mod?

[merry tartan]

I should go through and detail exactly which options in that mod are and aren't compatible...

[distant oar]

Yeah there are a lot of people who try to use renodx with that mod. We should probably make a pinned post detailing what you just said

💀

[thin fjord]

3.7.1 filmic is peak

[tender pasture]

yeah i use the disabled post processing effects mod. should i diabled it? the vanilla presets works well with it so im not sure.

[merry tartan]

a mod like this one really makes me wish renodx settings were stored outside of the reshade.ini, so we could force a settings wipe by including a blank ini lol

why does this mod change so much with each update (like we're ones to talk I guess)

feel like a list of what does and doesn't work would be invalidated in a week

[distant oar]

I dont mean to be rude to anyone but I really dont get why someone would make a post like this while not understanding what they are doing

[distant oar]

I think the Most important things will stay the same (compatibility with other mods etc)

[distant oar]

Just dont change anything related to exposure and color correction in the mod

Disableing local exposure via the mod, prevents renoDx from changing exposure stuff

[tender pasture]

got it, will try that

[merry tartan]

These settings are required to be on in the post processing removal mod

[distant oar]

Dont worry, the mod is changing a lot because wilds has too many things messing up HDR. This just shows how much work you guys put into it. I think it would be impossible to get everything right in V1.0

[dense dew]

Maybe I took the screenshot wrong?

[distant oar]

Try to use Reshade screenshots

[ebon tide]

they look great but I wanna see hdr gloriousness, use reshade screenshots yeah

they handle hdr now

[shut violet]

transparency is actually more heavy on the GPU than not turning objects transparent

it should not affect culling

and yet the game runs like shit with the mod lol

[thin fjord]

It affects performance? Even if you only use the npc option?

[shut violet]

NPC only option should be fine

camera distance is affecting the culling distance/range too

like FOV

so as long as you are not adjusting the camera with the mod it should be fine I think

[thin fjord]

Ah I use my own camera mod

[waxen rose]

Yeah, I don’t use any other mod that touches visuals, under HDR Peak 1000, by default, the blacks crush a little. It’s subtle so you might not notice and could be different in HDR 400, but looking at the details of the Lala Barina chest piece or going around wyveria at nighttime made it clear, especially when you can compare it to vanilla. I couldn’t see much around Gemma’s forge in wyveria at night until I raised shadows

[rustic bridge]

some random ray dau hunt

beta vibe, it's rare to hunt with such weather

[orchid drum]

is there a use to special k when using renodx ? Doesn't work with MO2 so don't know if it's worth disabling for Wilds

[shut violet]

SK fixes the native reflex implementation

[white wyvern]

This is without overriding it in SK, correct?

I recall SK's dev saying that we dont need to do anything special in SK anymore. Just leave everything at default. So no need to override Reflex in SK.

[shut violet]

yes, don't override reflex with SK

[merry tartan]

that's what I'm saying, the dithered fade out thing they do removes objects from view before they get too close to the camera

[ebon tide]

Wait no override ? Just framelimiter ?

Because not disable native i get

[thin fjord]

I just framelimit to 60 with sk nothing else

have vsync and reflex disabled in game

[shut violet]

yes do not override

don't disable reflex in-game tho

I mean if you don't use FG then sure you can disable reflex

but SK fixes the framepacing

[shut violet]

yea it's killing performance especially if you are standing near or inside foliage

[zinc sapphire]

the guy that helmed DD:DA (which is the best part) is still at capcom

[zinc sapphire]

there is a reason I forked it and removed all code but lens distortion, I hate when a mod forces options on me without me setting them first

[white wyvern]

And I have been using your fork since day 1. Plus the shader toggler to disable sharpening. Can disable DOF too but I dont use that.

[thin fjord]

reflex is forced on if you turn FG

[zinc sapphire]

time to test the new version, was gone for like a week 🐸

[shut violet]

yea that's what i'm saying haha

[merry tartan]

even with all the AA stuff turned on in that post processing removal mod, the image quality gets all fucked up just by having it installed

idk that anybody should use this thing unless they're trying to remove taa

Have it configured in a way where it should be doing absolutely nothing to the game but it's causing problems 🤷

[zinc sapphire]

odd

also with this @merry tartan?

this should do nothing but disable lens distortion

[merry tartan]

haven't tried anything else

but it looks like just having that other mod installed causes reconstruction techniques to...not reconstruct really

very noticeable on foliage

let me see if this is a problem without renodx too

still a problem. Maybe a weird interaction with the mod and reframework's ultrawide fix?

nope, not that either

not an ultrawide issue either, this mod simply breaks TAA solutions from functioning

or at least DLSS

nah FSR is even more broken looking lol

nobody should use this except for people removing TAA anyway

I wonder how many people think DLSS is worse in this game than it is because they have this mod...

[zinc sapphire]

how should the RCAS be used?

I got a 4k 27" monitor if that helps 🐸

I play at 4k (dlss perf)

[merry tartan]

to preference. If you are using the QA build, use it with vanilla exposure sharpening off

[zinc sapphire]

oh sorry I got 3.7.1 (?)

[merry tartan]

we'll likely be removing that vanilla exposure sharpening effect by default in the next build

it's not technically what it is but I have no clue what else to refer to it as...

[zinc sapphire]

ok fire is fixed in vanilla+

awesome!

filmic fire looks "odd"

🐸

but also really cool (this screenshot is "worst" case)

vanilla+/filmic

[merry tartan]

I wanted a lot of blowout this time around lol

[merry tartan]

this works fine

[thin fjord]

is there any way to deal with this weird shadow effect when moving the camera, I am guessing it is an issue with dlss

[merry tartan]

just looks like temporal accumulation on SSAO.

only fix would be to turn off SSAO but, well, that's not really a fix lol

different dlss models may handle it in a more pleasing way, or maybe even fsr3

[kind talon]

I really enjoy this and for the most part it is working very well, however in certain cutscenes I am getting this blue and red sparkle effect in the shadows, but it doesn't happen all the time. Does anyone know what is causing this?

[languid gyro]

same here, qd-oleds seem to need some tweaking with vanilla preset

[thin fjord]

Is fsr3 not a shimmering mess in this game like in other?

[outer lodge]

what app is this?

[thin fjord]

Vortex

[white wyvern]

Vortex, nexus mods “official” mod manager.

[merry tartan]

it seems decent here, though I'll take DLSS with any issues it has over the baked in problems FSR3 has

[cloud vessel]

Vortex is jank

[thin fjord]

Yeah it mostly happens in dark or shadowed areas

All dlss models seem to struggle on low light areas in this game. One way or another

[tender frost]

same, it crushes blacks so bad on qd-oled, I think it was not that bad before experiment version (disable sharpen stuff)

I could not tell what gore magala doing in last fight 😄

it was just black something on a white all environment which was weird...

[merry tartan]

Which area is this in? I didn’t notice this on my aw3423dwf, but it could be an area we aren’t testing.

[waxen rose]

Any area for the lala barina male chest being too dark and this was in the base camp at Wyveria during nighttime with plenty

The area around the forge is clearly supposed to have more illumination than the default vanilla preset, and from my limited testing, setting shadows to 55 or 60 largely alleviated this and showed more detail close to near blacks

[tawdry horizon]

Having the same issue.

[tender frost]

same monitor as mine, in ice shard cliffs fight against gore magala

I could not see any details on gore magala at all until I raised shadow to 60 on the sliders

[distant oar]

Are you sure that you actually mean crushed blacks and not low brightness?. That is a big difference. You can use this shader: https://github.com/EndlesslyFlowering/ReShade_HDR_shaders/blob/master/Shaders/lilium__hdr_and_sdr_analysis.fx to check if blacks are being crushed

[mellow turret]

Is it normal that in some scenes certain objects a bit far away are almost completely dark, but details become visible when player moves closer to them? especially when using the filmic preset

[distant oar]

Could you please share a HDR screenshot showing that? Sounds weird

[mellow turret]

I have not uploaded HDR images before, should I just upload .jxr files or do I need to convert them into another format?

[knotty cypress]

HDR PNGs work. you can either use jxr to png to convert them or use SKIV which is bundled in the SpecialK installer

[mellow turret]

This is far away filmic/vanilla+/off

this is medium distance

This is the look at close distance

[undone hare]

is there no more brightness/ui sliders? updated for first time in a hile

oh settings mode

[next swift]

[grand anvil]

if I can't handle the blacks in hgig and turn on DTM will I be cast from the HDR halls in shame

wyveria, oilwell depths and some parts of cliffs are pretty damn dark in hgig

[undone hare]

does renodx disable post-processing now? game looks a lot different from the old version I used

[distant oar]

Disable HDR in game and Enable it again if sliders are missing

[distant oar]

Try to increase game brightness nits in RenoDx if you game is not bright enough in with hgig

[glacial plank]

game pretty

[undone hare]

thanks for saying this because I just restarted and they were missing again and I was about to lose it

[distant oar]

I also had this problem and almost asked ritsu why they removed all the sliders

[grand anvil]

it's not that it isn't bright enough, it's extremely bright in lit areas, it's that the dark areas are so shadowed it's actually hard to see - like the cave camp in area 8 in Wyveria is a perfect example, hgig on you can'tseeshit.gif in the tunnel in and out of it, dtm on it's clear

I don't love how much dtm brightens EVERYTHING, but it's better than eyestrain, don't get old kids

[distant oar]

I guess this also depends a lot on how bright your room is. What monitor/tv are you using? Im quite happy with hgig on my LG C2

[grand anvil]

lgcx, dedicated gaming room with dimmable lights

hmm, if I hdr screenshot will it cap the hgig/dtm difference or is that my eyes only?

I think I'm actually using your last presets you posted

[distant oar]

This should be normal in this area when using fixed exposure/filmic preset. Its kind of supposed to be dark there. Vanilla exposure tries to expose everything equally while fixed exposure allows areas to get really dark.

But I understand that it can look a bit too extreme in some areas. Try to increase shadows a bit if you dont like it

[distant oar]

Screenshots will not capture your TVs Tonemapping/hgig

[grand anvil]

I actually enjoy full contrast, but a lot of games just don't do it well - like Destiny 2 had incredible hdr, the black areas were black but the game designers accounted for that so there was never anything you needed to see there, in Wilds, I completely missed that cave in area 8 wyveria because I literally couldn't see it in the wall

and after that it just becomes an eyestrain issue, fighting in caves/darker areas is cool when its atmospheric, less cool when it's straining

[distant oar]

You could try to increase exposure a bit if you think that fixed exposure gets too dark for you

[grand anvil]

I'll give that a try, I fiddled with the presets a little but it seemed to mostly make already bright/plenty/daytime areas that looked fantastic look a little too bright, and not do a lot to the 'holy shit that dark cave is dark' problem I'll play with it

ac shadows is giving me a similar dark issue actually, like crawling under buildings, it's nearly pitch black, which... you know, it should be, but again, gameplay, eyes, etc

[distant oar]

That really depends on preference, so you might like the vanilla+/local exposure more if eye strain is a problem for you

[merry tartan]

I still just don’t know what would be causing this, cause it’s not how it looks on my end (actually I shouldn’t say this I’m looking on my phone)

If you’re using the post processing removal mod or w/e, try without it

[distant oar]

I just tend to only use fixed exposure because I hate how local exposure kills the range. (Local exposure vanilla+ vs my latest preset fixed exposure)

[distant oar]

Do you mean the screenshots that tyrael9 shared?

[glacial plank]

yea vanilla obliterates shadows 😢

btw even default reno in the latest version is super good

[mellow turret]

I tried to increase shadow and I can see better. What I don’t understand is how it looks less dark when the player moves closer, since moving the player closer does not bring extra light to the object

[glacial plank]

that's kind of how auto exposure works in some games

but it depends on the scenario and the game

also idk if the in-game HDR settings affect anything at all atm

but maybe you changed those at some point too?

you can also probably decrease flare instead of increasing shadows for more clarity in dark places

[distant oar]

It actually does bring extra light to the object. There is a small light on the player in wilds. There are many games that do this to ensure that your character is always visible

So thats why its brighter when you move closer to the wall

[grand anvil]

prince's preset on first three, vanilla+ on last one in cursed area 8 cave, assuming this pastes right: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577638605502021710/1352815580453015564/hdr10_clipboard.png?ex=67df6330&is=67de11b0&hm=c3937d2c60ffc2bb97a4a03c7d45e2037b8a3c086aad125a9e127c31c4f8a6cb& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577638605502021710/1352816575924801626/hdr10_clipboard.png?ex=67df641d&is=67de129d&hm=92c5c10a325ff80dc68fa60a1f006216731e2ec73aeb724f071b644d0ee32a11& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577638605502021710/1352816862899208232/hdr10_clipboard.png?ex=67df6462&is=67de12e2&hm=b5326a89ea570ec265eb80e43aae428745fc88ca19978f986ab46784b1d82cdf& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577638605502021710/1352817017484214302/hdr10_clipboard.png?ex=67df6487&is=67de1307&hm=559222ee9444de955b10366cc8e4eecb4f9da723cc4ca561c60e91a532881378&

[distant oar]

You can see the character light in this screenshot

[distant oar]

I love that cat armor lol

[grand anvil]

vanilla+ is just insanely bright overall, outside that same cave: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/577638605502021710/1352818392926523562/hdr10_clipboard.png?ex=67df65cf&is=67de144f&hm=f9a8d3ca2d97f7d7b8b239568240dbcf39765cd20299499bef5c72e5d59bd103&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2901&height=1632 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/577638605502021710/1352818509926633544/hdr10_clipboard.png?ex=67df65ea&is=67de146a&hm=f8499c2db22be356ba67bd14fcec1e268d9d604f7824696c6aeb96c5c97c9ed7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2901&height=1632

it's tough to want to use the latter when the former looks absolutely bonkers bananas in combat when something like a rathian superfireball or rey dau railgun blast goes off

just insane visual work

[distant oar]

Yeah, this game CAN look really good

[grand anvil]

I feel extremely bad for people stuck on lowres textures and bad hdr, game looks incredible, but you need unreal levels of horsepower to brute force it

and the default hdr is lmao

[glacial plank]

tbh lowres textures are a bane even if you use extremely high texture pack

so we are all in that garbage bin together

I wish ps5 users could use reno somehow though

[grand anvil]

I haven't seen lowres issues at all, but the highres texture pack is a goddamn liar if specialk is to be believed, it's using north of 17gb of vram in some places, most pc gpus don't have that much, so anyone who turns it on because the ingame menu says like 7-8gb =

dogass performance and texture streaming loading problems

[glacial plank]

they are not as prevalent after a while/in the end-game

but nu-udra whole body is a fucking low res texture along with his fire lmao

[night dirge]

RIP

[glacial plank]

#1347155473266114580 message
also reminder that these clothes exist if you want to witness the beautiful textures yourself

[mellow turret]

Yea I can see that after you say it. Thanks for solving the mystery 😊

I wasn’t able to use the high res texture pack because it caused stuttering a lot (I’m on 4080 playing 4k) I’ve heard there is now a mod that unpacks texture .pak file beforehand to alleviate the problem, but that consumes tons of storage. Will try that after my new nvme arrives

[glacial plank]

oh? is there a mod like that?

[meager tendon]

try these

[distant oar]

Wtf happend to nexus mods website 👀

[mellow turret]

yea I saw it from a video on bilibili, should be this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/951

[distant oar]

That looks really interesting

But I think my SSD will kill me for even looking at that

[glacial plank]

thanks, sounds interesting, I'll take a look

[distant oar]

Please tell me how much storage is used after you have tried it

But it will probably be massive when you consider that the install size for the compressed high res texture pack is already about 70gb

[glacial plank]

I think I'll skip on it for now, since people mention it doesn't reduce VRAM usage and I'm on 4070 ti super with 16gb

I think high rex tex pack uses more than that and causes some textures to not load

so I uninstalled it

[grand anvil]

1. Download the decomp tool v.0.1.2. You will need 250Gb of free space to decompress all the texture packs

lol lmao

[distant oar]

Im also using a 4070ti. The VRAM is probably too low for the high res texture pack

[merry tartan]

night time inclemency vanilla+

oh whoops kept sk overlay

there's gotta be some mod conflict going on

filimic preset

[mellow turret]

Your screenshot looks gorgeous! I don’t know what’s wrong on my machine, I’m only using RenoDX, remove lens distortion (the standalone mod, not the option in post processing removal), and better camera distance.

[merry tartan]

so strange. I'm also using the lens distortion mod

maybe it's better camera distance then, somehow

I'll throw it in and give it a try

[distant oar]

It only looks so dark during daytime

Weather/season also effects this

[merry tartan]

hm, I figured night would be darkest

that's still not as dark as what was posted though

still legible levels of darkness

[distant oar]

Yeah I also tried night first but I could only replicate it at day time

[merry tartan]

hm, maybe it is the same

well dang, idk if that's worth fixing at the expense of contrast in the rest of the game :/

[distant oar]

I got the same look as in the screenshots but I didnt make a screenshot and changed to nighttime lol. Its probably day + lush or any other season

[distant oar]

Probably not. Most of the game looks fine

[merry tartan]

perhaps evening specifically, this is plenty daytime filmic

vanilla+ is even brighter

I haven't played enough of the game to dump a bunch of research points on each ToD

[distant oar]

I also think that its not even that bad in that area. That dark area is probably caused by the sun / GI not reaching that spot at a certain time of the day => area should be dark

[merry tartan]

I've seen the GI fail to build a few times

though it usually results in overbright areas...

there also was the time I had AO or something completely bug out which did make my game a lot darker but I don't think that was a reno issue

that was when I suggested people delete settings in reshade.ini, but idk if that's what the problem was 🤷

[distant oar]

Im glad I didnt run into this issue yet

@merry tartan btw thanks for making that post about the PostProcessing removal mod on the nexus mods page. Im sure that there are many people that will find this very helpful

[merry tartan]

yeah np, it's more for my own sanity though tbh

[distant oar]

I understand that

[undone hare]

hmm, after going from 2,2 to 3,7, I'm getting worse performance and stuttering, even after shader reset

[fading cape]

2.2 to 3.7 comparison left to right, with shaders on vs off top to bottom

idk how i feel about it tbh

renodx/filmic and the softy rehydration shader btw

[thin fjord]

so red with shader

[fading cape]

yeah lil bit idk

not exactly the best spot to show it off

[merry tartan]

I wouldn't think combining any reshade with renodx is gonna work well unless someone makes something with it in mind

[fading cape]

vanilla on the left filmic on the right, with rehydrated shader enabled on the top

[rich finch]

Hi Jon, I have tried Strudel's PP with lens distortion onlyfile for a week, I didn't notice that problem with DLSS. Left with mod while right is without

37.22 is mod on

must be the other codes related to local exposure etc causing problems, but lens distortion itself should be fine

[rustic bridge]

nice reflections, are you using RT?

[fading cape]

yeah ultra with rt on

i usually just use a mix of high medium and low rt

[rustic bridge]

my gee, your gpu must be powerful

[fading cape]

4080s

[rustic bridge]

no wonder 😄

[fading cape]

i could probably play ultra with rt with fg on normally but it wouldn't be a great experience

just uped the settings for the screenshot

i do use low rt normally though it fixes some weird lighting glitches

[rustic bridge]

if i turn on RT it would cost me 10fps and i'm already on the edge

I'm sitting at 50-60fps, i can dip to 40 on heavy scenes

also RT has noticeable input lag, so it's usually better to keep it off

[woven fiber]

Is anyone else seeing "blackened" cardboard grass in the game? Especially in Suja. I tried turning off AO in case that was the cause but it's still there (I'm gonna post a screenshot shortly). I'm not sure if I just started noticing it or if it showed up recently, deleting the shader cache didn't help

[rich finch]

Latest sharpen comparison Off/Reno built in CAS 50/ 100/ Reshade RCAS 1.0000

[lunar ibex]

ill ask again, to use the sharpen tool in renodx do i need a separate tool that removes sharpening?

[rich finch]

I think it's pretty good

[lunar ibex]

chuachua

[rich finch]

it's built in the latest one, just turn off the sharperning of the game in the slider

[lunar ibex]

dlss4 doesnt have a sharpening slider

so do i need to swap to fsr?

[woven fiber]

It's not upscaling sharpening, it's an in-game shader

Can't be disabled from the settings normally

[lunar ibex]

so what is the answer

[woven fiber]

The last build of RenoDX lets you disable it

[rustic bridge]

nvidia has a driver level sharpener, named NIS if i'm right, you want to be sure to turn it off

[woven fiber]

(The testing one)

[lunar ibex]

oooh the QA build

[rich finch]

exactly

[woven fiber]

Or you could use the ShaderToggler add-on for ReShade

[lunar ibex]

so how does it look to you

does it look nice

before i install the qa build and erase my shaders again

[woven fiber]

The RCAS in RenoDX looks much better to me than the in-game sharpening filter which is too harsh most of the time

[rich finch]

RCAS is way better

[lunar ibex]

i find it very odd capcom installed 2 layers of anti tamper to the game, which are easily bypassed but affect performance, and then capcom have not banned a single player

why not just... not have anti tamper

wtf? modnexus got enshittified?

ok, testing mod now

this is image with rcas sharpening enabled to 100

rcas 0, vanilla sharpening on (but it's dlss4 so idk how much of it is applied)

[woven fiber]

It's applied before DLSS so it shouldn't matter

[lunar ibex]

sorry this is the second one

and finally

sharpening off

area id like to point out is the waterfall, and the leaves on the right

it might be more obvious in motion though

but in the first image the leaves are waaaaaay sharper than in the other two

almost like if you emulated a ps3 game at 1080p

its not better or worse, personally i like my games to be very sharp, though its certainly sharper than anything dlss4 might be applying

[woven fiber]

It comes down to personal preference in the end, but I think I haven't seen anyone liking the in-game sharpening so far also you can't tweak it as opposed to RCAS

[fading cape]

i'd go crazy with sharpness if it didn't make the hair look awful

[lunar ibex]

my only issue with sharpening is that it causes the trees to look weird

they get weird aztec symbols on them

[woven fiber]

Or any other sharpening filter tbh

[lunar ibex]

the lens removal mod also makes hair look bad

im wondering if half the image quality issues this game has are because they wanted good looking hair but the game barely supports it

to be fair after playing The Veilguard i think every game benefits from Good Hair

[woven fiber]

This one made a big difference for me since I find the dithering pattern on transparency atrocious https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/1047

But if you go overboard with the camera distance you lose performance, I just changed the alpha

[lunar ibex]

oooooo

[fading cape]

that dude just stole the other dudes code tho

[lunar ibex]

get rid of more blur.... yes please

[fading cape]

apparently theres a fps hit for that one too somehow

[lunar ibex]

other dude?

which other dude

[woven fiber]

Oh yeah? Which one

[fading cape]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/984

[lunar ibex]

the enemy fade makes the steamdeck version of the game even more nightmarish than it already is

since you get the fade effect where it shouldnt be appearing

also is it a config file change, or a script

[woven fiber]

I see, the other mod is still being updated though, so it might have more settings and stuff

[woven fiber]

REFramework script

[lunar ibex]

it's quite a lengthy amount of script

so if someone wrote all that and this person duplicated it then yeah that kinda requires a reference to the original

gonna try it out now

bear in mind any scripts can cause performance issues if they cause the game to recompile shaders

[woven fiber]

I played with it on last night and I didn't notice any performance hit, but I didn't touch the camera distance setting

So the game wasn't rendering anything more than the usual, supposedly

[fading cape]

it doesn't just require a reference, either he should ask for permission or it shouldn't be allowed period

[woven fiber]

Agree, this is what the other mod's author says about it in the comments

So it has more features but it started from someone else's code

[lunar ibex]

i couldnt get the mod to initialise anyway

so i deleted it

gonna test the unstolen one

[trim tangle]

Comparing the two scripts, at a glance, it's questionable if anything was stolen...

They don't even seem to share any code

But then, comments are easy to make on the internet...

[lunar ibex]

so you thiink they were lying?

[woven fiber]

Also true

But I mean, I'll end up using the one that works better for me anyway

[lunar ibex]

well i have asked the question

theres a volumetric fog tool and i set fog culling to 0

and now we are in Persona 4

[woven fiber]

Speaking of this, here's a screenshot

It's in Suja, can anyone let me know if they're seeing that? It looks very wrong

[lunar ibex]

UHHHHHH

[trim tangle]

Got it to initialize here just fine? 👀

[lunar ibex]

look at my latest image... well thats the second older mod

[trim tangle]

Bah, wish Reshade could capture the Reframework window :(

[woven fiber]

Works fine on my end as well

[trim tangle]

Look at the top of his head. Look at it! (Don't lick it, please don't...)

[trim tangle]

Tweak Volumetric Fogs?

[lunar ibex]

ea

[trim tangle]

Turn Wilds into a horror game :D

[zinc sapphire]

you mean the shadows on the grass?

this happens if you don't use the highest texture settings sadly

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[indigo stratus]

When trying to install Catlib (requirement) i get this error at the start

[woven fiber]

Oh, thanks

Yeah that's what I was referring to

I had to turn them down cause 12gb of vram weren't enough apparently

[trim tangle]

Did you install it properly?

[indigo stratus]

if installing properly means i put the file into the reframework autorun folder then yes

[trim tangle]

What does your folder setup look like?

[zinc sapphire]

neither are 16gb

[indigo stratus]

Okay i unziped it again, deleted everything and pasted it again and now no error message appears, seems like i fucked up while unzipping? weird
Using the disable enemy fade i only see this option, where is the option for other stuff?

Im fucking stupid nevermind its right there

Thanks for the help!

[trim tangle]

Usually, when you've got weird errors like that, yeah, it's an installation issue :/
I mean, there were so many "no files" there that it's not finding stuff where it expects to.

[shut violet]

Vanilla+ is color shifting compared to SDR. Ritsu said that it's intended, but idk it looks kinda weird? Especially the pink tinting. Switching to US CRT kinda "fixes" it I think.

[dense dew]

should i tick this on ?

[zinc sapphire]

no

you don't have to mess with any HDR settings in SK

[white wyvern]

You dont have to mess with anything in SK.
You can use it for:
1- Framelimiter
2- Applying DLSS4 DLLS (if you haven't already done that via DLSSwapper or Nvidia Control Panel)

Other than these two, leave everything at default.

[shut violet]

preset K is not fixed afaik, use the default DLSS preset/dll

[dense dew]

i should set it like this?

[shut violet]

it should be HDR10 native I think

that's the default

[dense dew]

oh okay, thank you

[shut violet]

experimental custom vanilla exposure settings:

[zinc sapphire]

correct

[white wyvern]

What MPaul has posted is the default.
You can open Special K, right click on the Special K ini entry under Monster Hunter Wilds and select reset. It’ll reset it to defaults.

[shut violet]

Vanilla exposure with pre-grade vs Reno Off/Vanilla

[lunar ibex]

So vanilla pregrade vs vanilla postgrade?

[shut violet]

well reno off uses postgrade so yes

I don't think that it's better than using fixed tho, but it looks decent, and the highlights are less aggresive

I'm happy with my new custom vanilla preset, it works well enough in cutscenes too, colors are mostly preserved, highlights are still off looking sometimes(green tinting), but it's not that big of a deal:

[glacial plank]

there's some new nighty reframework build uploaded 13 mins ago

not sure what are the changes though

[shut violet]

it's updated frequently

[distant oar]

This is mostly fixed by using fixed exposure. Im also not sure if the high res texture pack has any effect on it because the comparison that strudel shared had different in game time for each screenshot and that also seems to affect it

[woven fiber]

It's pretty weird though because it looks as if the "shadow" was baked into the grass, since it's still there with AO off too

And it doesn't even match the ground

Doesn't look like intended behavior

I wonder if it's the same on console 🤔

[zinc sapphire]

yeah I thought it would be related to AO/RT settings

but no... only highest textures somewhat make it look ok

real bummer

[outer lodge]

anyone know how to get discord to show hdr images as default? it only shows them when i click the picture and then click again to expand the image

[merry tartan]

hardware acceleration is required afaik

idk that there's anything else that affects it

[dense knot]

V3.8.0

Changelog:

• Remove sharpness shader

[merry tartan]

for clarity, RCAS is still there, but the native sharpening in vanilla exposure is gone (like the test build)

[lunar ibex]

difference between this and test build?

[merry tartan]

sharpening toggle removed, it's always off now (there was no reason to have it on with RCAS being better in every way)

[lunar ibex]

is there a performance hit?

i notice my performance struggling today but i am not sure what the cause is exactly

[merry tartan]

whatever the difference between rcas set to 0 and 1 would be

doubt it's more than 0.1 ms tbh

[gritty ingot]

is the new version compatible with the Disable Lens Distortion?

[merry tartan]

yes

[tawdry horizon]

Care to share the sliders you're using now? I really liked the last one you posted. Unless you are using the same setup.

[merry tartan]

same one

[tawdry horizon]

Oh nice. Thanks!

[merry tartan]

I'm becoming a d93 (JPN Modern) convert for monster hunter...

[white wyvern]

So we dont need to use shadertoggler to turn off sharpening anymore?

[merry tartan]

nope

renodx does the exact same thing now

[white wyvern]

Thank you!

[kind talon]

Quick question: Is there a special way I need to update this? I replaced the 2.2 reno file I had in the Wilds folder with the new 3.8 but when I try to open wilds it just closes immediately. When I put the 2.2 file back in the wilds folder though it boots up without issue. What am I doing wrong?

[fallen karma]

it does feel really dark in some areas even during daytime still

[fading cape]

I'm curious why do you include film grain?

I don't even notice a difference on or off

[merry tartan]

It may not technically be required but renodx overrides the game's film grain with a custom one, so it might have to be on for the slider to work as intended all the time.

[fallen karma]

film grain just adds some noise to the image

easily turned off too

[fading cape]

yeah not a big film grain fan but i don't notice it in wilds so whatever

[fallen karma]

Reno looks really great but i have to double the ingame brightness in the reshade options to be able to see things properly

[shut violet]

it masks banding artifacts and sharpens the image

[fallen karma]

deband.fx does that really well already

And Lilium's HDR sharpening is my favorite sharpen filter

[fading cape]

masks banding artifacts sure but sharpens image? i doubt that

[shut violet]

film grain is a natural sharpener

[fading cape]

its in the name its adds a grain to the image

how could that make things sharper

genuinely curious

[fallen karma]

it does help mask some of the poor effects from the engine's rendering and is hardly noticable if you're not sitting too close to your monitor

RE engine is terrible at certain lighting effects, especially rendering the clouds and the skybox in general

[shut violet]

film grain is random noise and it's tricking your brain/eyes

[merry tartan]

sharpening shaders are also just noise

[shut violet]

the edges are less "smooth"

[fading cape]

hmm ig i prefer the one with noise at first glance but after looking at it closer i'd clearly prefer the one without noise imo

[fallen karma]

film grain is mostly personal preference but if you use it without directly looking for it in an image it is quite nice

[dense elbow]

What does banding artifacts look like?

[fallen karma]

Banding vs no banding

just a rough example

[shut violet]

I love film grain especially during dark scenes

[fallen karma]

it's basically lines in color transition

[dense elbow]

oh i see

[fallen karma]

something IPS monitors are notorious for

[sturdy marten]

I am not sure Vignette or Film Grain sliders do anything here, but my eyes might just not see it well enough. that said, 3.8 is a banger on first boot

[shut violet]

or OLED haha

[sturdy marten]

the sharpening tweaks are great

[fallen karma]

some oleds are bad with banding yeah

[shut violet]

TN monitors were the worst

[fallen karma]

i had to trade in my own oled 3 times to get one without image retention as well

[shut violet]

image retention is normal tho

[fallen karma]

yeah but it was bad

any grey image i could see it clearly

on the one i got now there is zero

And Asus accepted it as a defect each time

[shut violet]

brand new OLED monitor gray uniformity is usually horrible

[fallen karma]

But now that it works it is amazing

[shut violet]

you have to wait for the first few refresh cycles

[fallen karma]

yeah i had each monitor for a couple months before i traded them in

[dawn meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9j89L8eQQk

[shut violet]

ugh

[fallen karma]

cause it was just too clear on them

[shut violet]

that sounds bad

[fallen karma]

but this one i got now there is none

Here's just hoping that capcom finds a way to fix the terrible object rendering now that they released such a popular game on that engine

these blocky artifacts on loading moving textures are the biggest offenders

[fading cape]

fr

they might as well have used unreal

would've looked better and had the same performance

[dawn meadow]

lol

[shut violet]

nonono we don't need another Unreal 5 game lol

[rustic bridge]

testing new preset on the darkest monster

[shut violet]

I hate how UE5 games look the same

[fading cape]

true that could probably be fixed though and we wouldn't have to deal with all these goofy quirks of their engine

probably would've saved a lot of time in development too

more content for us

[rustic bridge]

taa, nanite, lumen, shader compilation and the list goes on

[fading cape]

i mean fortnite doesn't look the same as black myth so clearly there's room for developers to change things up

[shut violet]

fortnite is a first party game

but yea the problem lies with the small indie/aa studios

they don't have to resources to change everything

so they use the "default" settings, default fonts, UI elements

etc

default lighting

[fading cape]

default optimization

[shut violet]

haha yea 🥲

I want more decima engine games

[rustic bridge]

speaking od decima, death stranding 2 looks beautiful

[shut violet]

it does! it's looks unbelievably good

[rustic bridge]

the new trailer is the best game trailer i've ever seen

[shut violet]

and it's going to run well on a mid range PC

[fallen karma]

DS 2 is probably going to be the best looking game when it releases

[shut violet]

without heavy RT or PT

like RDR2

[fallen karma]

Thank god Microsoft is coming out with the Dx12 raytracing release soon

gonna be interesting

if anything needs some optimization it's RT

[shut violet]

it's not going to change much at least for now

[rustic bridge]

any idea why the lilium analysis tool doesn't show text on my screen?

[placid mango]

can this work online or will it get me banned?

[glacial plank]

almost 0% chance of ban and I'd probably rather be banned than play with native HDR

[thin fjord]

I'll take terrible performance over the massive unfixable stutter fest that are Ue5 and Ue4 games

[zinc sapphire]

these capcom games don't have anti cheat

[vital falcon]

any recommended settings to change for SDR displays after installing renodx?

[shut violet]

new experimental vanilla+ preset, it should now match SDR colors:

[shut violet]

you can use the default vanilla+ preset it looks good:

my preset should work fine in SDR too, but I did not test it

[limpid cloak]

Am I tripping? Did I do something wrong to not get Reno to popup for me when I press Home? I just dragged and dropped the latest build to replace the test build from last night, and now I can't get it to show up.

[zinc sapphire]

probably windows defender

[limpid cloak]

Nah, not seeing anything in there

[zinc sapphire]

is the file still where you put it?

[limpid cloak]

Yeah

[zinc sapphire]

mmh ok

where is the file?

game dir?

or do you use special k?

[limpid cloak]

Yeah in the game dir

[zinc sapphire]

ok delete _storeage_

in game dir

[limpid cloak]

Alright

[zinc sapphire]

it might have the old file in there and maybe that conflicts

reframework does that for some reason

[limpid cloak]

I also do use special K and I did update it just now too so IDK if something there messed with Reno cause it's been fine this entire time otherwise

but getting into game now

[limpid cloak]

Weird. I had to rename reshade64.dll back to dxgi.dll to get Reno to show up again. Maybe something changed when I updated special k to the latest version.

[wheat dragon]

Anyone know how to reset RenoDX settings back to the Preset values?

[rustic bridge]

open reshade.ini and delete all values related to reno
[renoxxx]

[reno presetxxx]

[zinc sapphire]

or just delete the files, will have to rearrange windows of course

[shut violet]

I'm getting D3D error (24, DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED, 0x887a0005 now

😩

Probably the driver

it's not the overclock/undervolt

[shut violet]

I found the issue

if you use SK then you HAVE to load ReShade through SK

droping the dxgi dll into the game folder causes random crashes

it's probably something reframework related or idk

[shut violet]

hmm well I spoke too soon, it's still crashing but with no error message this time

[woven fiber]

Are you using a DualSense controller via bluetooth?

[shut violet]

nope

I use an xbox controller

but via bluetooth

[woven fiber]

That's known to cause issues, also I reset my core count to 8 in the game's config.ini because it seems to trigger crashes and BSODs with 12th gen Intel CPUs

[shut violet]

it used to work fine so idk whats the issue now

[woven fiber]

Same, but I started getting crashes lately

[shut violet]

I reverted to the latest stable REFramework build

I should revert to the latest stable MHW related SK nightly build too maybe

I will test it with mouse and keyboard

oh sigh

no crashes with m&k so far

-.-

I was debugging this shit for 2 hours and it turn out that bluetooth devices are crashing the game hilarious

[outer lodge]

I was having an issue with my ps5 controller over bluetooth, where I'd lose control over my character for a bit. It never happened plugged in tho. Just got a Vader 4 Pro and I'm using the dongle that came with it, no issues so far

[shut violet]

the proble mis with bluetooth probably

[woven fiber]

I had two weird crashes this morning where it was actually Steam that restarted, not the game itself, so I suspect it might also be messing with Steam Input idk

Too bad you can't disable it in this game if you wanna use a controller

And if Steam was restarting the game was getting instantly shut down as well ofc

[shut violet]

I did 4 hunts now with no crashes

m&k

I will test it with a wired controller now

[woven fiber]

I dunno if it's placebo but I haven't had any crashes while blocking HID input with SK yet, I tried doing that for other reasons but just in case

[shut violet]

wired controller seems to work

[shut violet]

I disabled HID input just in case

[shut violet]

it crashed again 😩

[rustic bridge]

arkveld

[shut violet]

I think it's just the recent patch

the game is randomly crashing after an hour or so

[gloomy pendant]

Hey there, first time using this mod, can I somehow change the HDR peak brightness of the mod now that it override the game settings ? thanks

[distant oar]

There is a slider for that in RenoDx. Try to turn HDR off in the ingame settings and turn it on again if you are missing options

[gloomy pendant]

oh I must be missing those, indeed

imma take a look, thank you very much

Am I supposed to have more options than that?

[outer lodge]

you're in simple mode

[gloomy pendant]

hmm

oh

[gloomy pendant]

indeed, thanks!

[shut violet]

@quartz portal how should we inject REFramework and ReShade? I was crashing randomly, and no crashing since I disabled SK. Is renaming the dlss to ReShade64 and REFramework enough?

[white wyvern]

Recent patch of what? SK, REF, RenoDX or the game itself?
I have had like 6-8 hour sessions without any crashes.

[white wyvern]

Jon mentioned that loading Reshade through SK may have a performance drop (someone identified it in AC Shadows or some other game).
I have switched to local Reshade since then. My setup is: no Reshade in SK, Reshade dxgi and addons (and REF) in game folder. SK doesn’t load anything.

And SK is still global injection.

[merry tartan]

I think ritsu mentioned that. I think that issue is related to framegen, potentially just in ac shadows?

Not sure though

I didn’t measure any difference between loading reshade as reshade64 or dxgi

[white wyvern]

Actually, neither have I. Performance seems identical. Its just that, every now and then SK would break Reshade. Like when the new version of Reno came out, game crashed on launch. Turns out I had to change Reshade loading to Lazy in SK.
With separate Reshade injection, I dont have those problems anymore. Its just loads REF > Reshade > SK and then everything works well.

[shut violet]

I tired multiple combinations and everyting crashes with SK so far not sure why

but it could be the driver or something else idk

I'm still on 23H2 and I'm using the 572.83 driver

no issues with other games

and I had no issues with MHW either like a week ago or soemthing

@white wyvern which version of REF and SK are you using?

[shut violet]

thanks

[white wyvern]

Have you tried doing a hard reset? Like reset SK ini, reshade ini and even game (config.)ini?

That has solved my troubles many times.

[shut violet]

yup

[coral notch]

I'm loading both with sk as well, no crashes. I'm using sk 25.3.11.2 and ref 1137

[white wyvern]

Yea, may be do a DDU and reset drivers too.

[shut violet]

game crashes at quest start with SK, and zero crashes without SK so far

[coral notch]

I'm using the same drivers. playing the game on both 24H2 and 23H2

[shut violet]

did you disable GPU decompress?

[coral notch]

No

[shut violet]

i'm using REF 01144 tho

i will test it with 1137

[white wyvern]

I only use SK for:

• Framelimiter latent sync
• Forcing DLSS 4
• Native frame pacing

Everything else is default.

[shut violet]

hmm I'm using vrr

[white wyvern]

My monitor has it but I don’t use it.

[coral notch]

I'm using vrr

[gritty ingot]

In what folder do I put the renodx-mhwilds.addon64 file to load it via Special K?

[zinc sapphire]

profiles mhwilds reshade addons

kinda like that

in the special k dir