✅RenoDX: MH Wilds

[rustic bridge]

or tn

[shut violet]

The difference between fixed exp 0 color lut and vanilla is "drastic" haha

i don't think that we can recommend using 0 color lut for the fist playthrough tho

[glacial plank]

I think LUT 0 looks like

x10 times better

original color design is awful

I don't think it can be defended by artistic intent

it's just garbage

[open prawn]

Took a bit of a break from the game this past week, but I'm hyped to see how nice the new renodx looks

[glacial plank]

btw MPaul is highlight saturation at 0 a mistake in your preset? it seems like such an odd choice, wouldn't it just kill colors of all highlights?

[shut violet]

it's not a mistake

it's very very oversaturated by default

[shut violet]

this is a a special scene tho with a "reminiscence" filter

[glacial plank]

I tried it a little bit, felt like some colors got changed drastically with it

yeah I agree about this scene, it might look off putting but at the same time I don't think it'll change much

[shut violet]

"hot" highlights turn orange/red with highlight saturation at 50, but it's 15 not 0 in the latest preset

#1347155473266114580 message

I'm not happy with cutscenes tho, fixed exposure is a hit or miss kind of feature

[indigo stratus]

Hello, im using special K the RenoDX file is in C:\Program Files\Special K\Profiles\Monster Hunter Wilds\ReShade\AddOns and the reshade itself is in C:\Program Files\Special K\PlugIns\ThirdParty\ReShade, the addon seems to be working since i notice a color change, but i cant see any settings

[shut violet]

disable the reshade plugin in SK and copy everything next to the game exe

Copy the ReShade64.dll (renamed from dxgi.dll), REFramework.dll (renamed from dinput8.dll) and the RenoDX addon file next to the game exe

it should be faster and more stable this way

[sturdy marten]

v3.5 has all settings (except blowout) at 50/middle position, is that correct? Just making sure that I did not accidentally delete the correct preset

[timid quail]

Yes that’s correct

It’s the new Vanilla+

[distant oar]

I went to a concert yesterday so I had no time to make a new preset yet. I will post one today if I accomplish anything

[rustic bridge]

is it me or the new version has less sliders?

[indigo stratus]

Hey im really sorry but im not that familiar with reshade or special K, so basically the two reshade files ReShade32.dll and ReShade64.dll i move to the monster Hunter Wilds directory and also the renodx-mhwilds.addon64? REFramework is already working

[shut violet]

no need to copy both reshade dlls just ReShade64, and it’s recommended to load REFramework through SK too.

But don’t forget to disable the reshade plugin in SK, if it’s enabled

[indigo stratus]

î did disable it thank you, okay just the 64 file, loading REFramework through SK i will have to look at that

[shut violet]

rename dinput8.dll to REFramework.dll

[indigo stratus]

Oh wow it just works! many thanks! are there any Settings i should adjust? i have QDoled Monitor

[shut violet]

The default settings are good imo

I use these settings: #1347155473266114580 message

The vanilla one

[indigo stratus]

oh so this will be the same as i have then, if i understood correctly, the settings i choose ingame regarding brightness are overwritten anway so i do not have to change anything?

[shut violet]

oh yea no need to change anything

[indigo stratus]

Perfect, thank you again!

[shut violet]

no

do we know what causes these bright artifacts in darker areas?

only visible when you move your character

it's not DLSS, it's there without upscaling too

[glacial plank]

ray tracing perhaps? I've seen it glitch some stuff so I turned it off

[shut violet]

yea I suspected RT too but it's turned off

[glacial plank]

funnily enough some things were fixed with RT on

😸

this game is unpredictable

[shut violet]

leme try lol

nope

:/

it's caused by ambinet lighting quality

[rustic bridge]

the new reno

[shut violet]

setting ambient lighting quality to low fixes the issue hmm

[glacial plank]

interesting

I don't remember if this is the option or it was another one that was absolutely crucial for having lightning look good

so that's something to test in the desert just in case

otherwise it looks like a blue png line lol

[shut violet]

yea the game looks strange with ambient lighting quality on low

[rustic bridge]

i need more tuning

[ancient ibex]

what's the preferred way to take hdr screenshots? steam capture? i know SK has a hdr png thing, but i'm not using it atm

and is there a good way that is not exr/jxr?

[glacial plank]

reshade has hdr capture

[ancient ibex]

oh, default options?

[glacial plank]

I'm not entirely sure, I just bump some settings to 16 and call it a day

but they seem to look good

[rustic bridge]

i use reshade

steam can capture in hdr avif but it freezes few seconds

[distant oar]

If I remeber correctly the game uses some weird half res ray lighting system that causes these artifacts

[rustic bridge]

some arkveld hunt

[dense knot]

V3.6.0 (Thanks to Jon for all the help)

Changelog:

• Adjust tonemapper
• Add back advanced sliders (Exposure stuff and LUT Strength)
• Add SDR compatibility (Fix SDR tonemapping)
• Fix Vanilla and preset off

[merry tartan]

@vital falcon ^

[merry tartan]

needless to say, get rid of the reshade preset if you use it lol

[rustic bridge]

lol i've been using the 3.5 for an hour

[dense knot]

@glacial plank @rustic bridge @zinc sapphire is it alright if I post the pics you sent on nexusmods?

[rustic bridge]

if they look good to you, sure

[glacial plank]

yeah feel free to use both pics and preset settings if you'd like, so people have options to try out ❤️
are sliders any different in the new version or old presets should work the same way? I assume if tonemapper was adjusted, things will change, right?

asking since the old pics might be outdated because of that, right?

[dense knot]

3.6 should be close enough to 3.5

Anything older wouldn't work

[glacial plank]

it's crazy new version got uploaded before prince made a preset, rules of universe are in shambles

gotta try the new version today 🙏

[lunar ibex]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/221?tab=files

would you recommend using this mod alongside renodx

[dense knot]

It might conflict with reno

[rustic bridge]

we beta testers can't keep up haha

ritsu is cooking too fast

[dense knot]

[crisp steppe]

it does conflict, the last version of that mod has HDR options and doesn't work well with renodx from what ive tested

[zinc sapphire]

of course

new release

[lunar ibex]

thats unfortunate. i wonder if the reddit post i saw about it was right about it improving performance greatly

OK latest config file will require shader compilations

[crisp steppe]

well you are removing post processing effects so it increases performance

[lunar ibex]

it might help on a 3060 but im using a 4070 which handles the game quite well, im more bottlenecked by the game's capabilities than my system

im sure ive spent more time tinkering with this game than playing it

[dense knot]

I'm HR 4 😂

[verbal turret]

renodx is the game

[lunar ibex]

a full time job

[glacial plank]

I'd suggest just using lens distortion removal and that's it

[lunar ibex]

i do find it funny how the advanced slider only adds the color lut strength

[lunar ibex]

already got that one 😎

im tempted by the removing taa simply so i can see if mxaa looks any better without the taa

[glacial plank]

I haven't tried that, but I think DLSS already uses something else instead of taa, I could be wrong though

or maybe that's DLAA only

[fallen karma]

Nexus really hates this mod

[glacial plank]

does it flag it because it's dll?

[lunar ibex]

nevermind they all came back when the game loaded

[glacial plank]

oh wait it's not even dll

[timid quail]

is there a way to hide the UI for a screenshot quickly?

[lunar ibex]

windoOOOOOOOWS

[verbal turret]

you can use disable postprocessing to toggle blurred luminance assuming you don't use frame generation or renodx

i think renodx also removes the built-in sharpening though

[glacial plank]

if you're using last option when booting the game (offline multiplayer?) you can press "end" on keyboard to pause the game

[lunar ibex]

oh btw how many of you play in dark rooms?

i just realised the reason the reno preset looks so dark is probably because it's being set up in a dark room

whereas im in a room that is disturbingly bright for a hdr gamer

[fallen karma]

Well some OLED panels require dark rooms to have the best picture

[lunar ibex]

exactly whereas i tend to play in a well lit room

[thin fjord]

oh, wonder if that has other issues.

[fallen karma]

It doesn't really look dark when i have it installed

[glacial plank]

I'm using oled and playing mostly in dark rooms

[lunar ibex]

im used to my steamdeck oled being bright as the sun so i was quite surprised when i realised my oled monitor can sometimes be darker than the lcd monitor

[glacial plank]

it also depends on which mode you use I think

HDR true black (400 peak) seems brighter than peak 1000 I think

[lunar ibex]

400 is brighter than 1000 yes (ironically)

which do you prefer for mh

[glacial plank]

I haven't tried 400, but I only use 1000 in all games

[distant oar]

Does 3.6.0 use vanilla exposure or fixed ?

[glacial plank]

I feel like 400 is just more brightness and contrast while 1000 gives so much detail to everything

[distant oar]

Trying this now 🔥

[fallen karma]

Anyone know which things Reno conflicts with in the "Remove Postprocessing" mod?

[lunar ibex]

ive tried 400 for minecraft autohdr

[timid quail]

default is vanilla

[lunar ibex]

the hdr settings

[fallen karma]

ok i don't touch those so that's fine

[lunar ibex]

and vignette and ui stuff

give it a shot worst case scenario youll have to get rid ofone of the mods

[lunar ibex]

400 is better to make those brighter areas pop like the desert and the ice area

1000 is better for small effects like the weapons

but yeah this is the new reno default:

whereas this is what my preset was:

[distant oar]

@dense knot How does RenoDx determine the peak brightness value? It always got set to peak brightness 1499 when clicking reset all in previous versions despite my 800 nit peak brightness color profile. Is there some way to limit it to 800?

[lunar ibex]

are you sure your colour profile is still set to 800

[timid quail]

3.6 looking fire

[lunar ibex]

the mod determines peak brightness value based on your windows colour profile

mine was going to 460 and i was like

[dense knot]

Gets it from EDID, windows is buggy tho

[lunar ibex]

why is it doing that???

it's because a windows update deleted the colour profile

so it was automatically deferring to the 400 profile

[fallen karma]

The mod is a bit dark after i installed the most recent version. What is causing this

[lunar ibex]

check your peak brightness is correct

[timid quail]

lots of banding in the ice map, only anomaly i've seen so far

[distant oar]

Ok thanks. I will try to make another color profile, maybe it will help

[distant oar]

Didnt the peak brightness slider get removed?

[lunar ibex]

no?

it cant be removed or the mod would be useless

peak brightness determines the nits of your monitor

some people use hdr 400 and some 1000 and some 1500

[distant oar]

Ohhh im sorry. I just restarted my PC after making a new color profile and now I have more sliders in RenoDx lol. I thought you removed the peak brightness slider, thats why I asked that haha

Wait. After the title screens they are gone again

Am I missing something?

[lunar ibex]

how odd. is your monitor in hdr mode?

[timid quail]

Some sliders

[distant oar]

Yes. I havent changed anything except the color profile

The sliders only went away after the title screens

[lunar ibex]

whats funny is the sliders only APPEARED for me after the title screens

is your monster hunter not in hdr mode

disable hdr in mh and turn it back on

[distant oar]

Wait, im gonna remove the renoDx stuff from my reshade.ini first

[distant oar]

That helped, thanks. Never happend to me before lol

[lunar ibex]

no worries it happens to me whenever i fuck around with hdr 400 to 1000

[distant oar]

And I thought: "why would they remove all those sliders??"

[distant oar]

Sry for the dumb question. Most of my sliders were gone 💀

[shut violet]

it should be vanilla

[distant oar]

On default, yes. But my exposure sliders were bugged and gone, so I thought they removed them and wondered if vanilla or fixed is being used as new default

[lunar ibex]

the RenoDRT tone mapper is much darker than vanilla

[shut violet]

the new default is vanilla

[lunar ibex]

when in the uhhh, wyveria area

vanilla

reno

[shut violet]

vanilla = off?

[lunar ibex]

just that one tone mapping slider

you can also see the difference in these two images

[shut violet]

yea

Ritsu fixed the vanilla tone mapper

it should look worse now

[ancient ibex]

is 3.6 on nexus the same build as 3.5 rc0? it's quarantined again on nexus

[dense knot]

Probably a bug, wait

[distant oar]

Turning HDR off and on again fixed it

[lunar ibex]

it's an issue with the game's hdr detection, not renodx

[shut violet]

new fixed exp, 0 color lut experimental preset:

it looks a lot better in cutscenes now, the contrast is still weird but it's better

Fixed exp with 0 color lut vs vanilla

[timid quail]

i dig this look

[distant oar]

@dense knot Sorry if this is a dumb question but is the color LUT Setting reversed when using PreGrade? .Default RenoDx vs RenoDx PreGrade Color Lut 0 vs RenoDx PreGrade Color Lut 100 vs Default RenoDx PostGrade Color Lut 0. To me it looks like the color lut is only being applied in pregrade when its set to 0

[shut violet]

0 is off with pregade too

[distant oar]

It should be, but it doesnt look like it

[shut violet]

check my pic above

that's 0 color lut

100 color lut looks orangish

[rustic bridge]

shaders compiled, it's game time

oh we have old sliders

[shut violet]

pregrade fixed exp 100 color lut vs 0

[distant oar]

You said "Fixed exp with 0 color lut vs vanilla". Did you use postGrade for vanilla?

[shut violet]

vanilla should be pre grade

I mean post

that's the vanilla base preset

with some saturation adjustment

aka post grade 100 color lut

[distant oar]

Check the 4 screenshots I just posted.

[rustic bridge]

i'm confused, what tone mapper did the 3.5 use?

[shut violet]

I cant figure out which is which

lol

[rustic bridge]

vinalla or renodrt?

[shut violet]

yellowish sand = color lut 100

or should be

[shut violet]

reno

[distant oar]

Default RenoDx vs RenoDx PreGrade Color Lut 0 vs RenoDx PreGrade Color Lut 100 vs Default RenoDx PostGrade Color Lut 0

[rustic bridge]

@dense knot I think sliders are bugged while using the vanilla tone mapper

i try to adjust the contrast for instance and nothing happens

[distant oar]

All Default (PostGrade Color LUT 100) / PreGrade Color Lut 100 / PreGrade Color Lut 0 (Exposure 100 on PreGrade Screenshots)

[shut violet]

that looks accurate

default is very oversaturated for some reason

[distant oar]

Yeah but the more saturated on (The third Screenshot) is with Color Lut 0

The Colors on the third screenshot look more like the colors on the first screenshot with PostGrade Lut 100

[shut violet]

yea color lut 0 turns the yellow highlight on the hot metal thing to orange

[shut violet]

focus on the hot iron the first and second picture is similar

the first is just very oversaturated

[distant oar]

Yeah, the highlights match with vanilla, but the colors seem weird to me

[shut violet]

I mean the highlights

what if you lower highlight saturation?

to something like 0-10

[distant oar]

There was also a output lut that controls contrast etc. Maybe they megered output lut with color lut slider but only color lut is reversed? Because the highlights seem to match on color lut 100 but the colors look off

[shut violet]

the new default preset is also crushing blacks btw

[distant oar]

Im really not sure whats going on. This could also be completly normal and only look different because of PreGrade vs PostGrade

[shut violet]

fixed exp + pregrade used to be broken with color lut

[distant oar]

Fixed Exposure + PreGrade + 100 exposure: Color Lut 0 vs Color Lut 100

Looks weird to me. But maybe im dumb

[shut violet]

yea this looks off

its black and white lol

kinda

[distant oar]

Yea

[shut violet]

i'm not sure that I can reproduce this in my game tho

[distant oar]

This black and white only happens on very strong highlights

[lunar ibex]

are we still figuring out the new settings

i cant get it to look quite right

[white wyvern]

Just tried it. This looks phenomenal. The best iteration yet for my taste. Thank you!

[shut violet]

Adjusted vanilla vs fixed exp 0 color lut

fixed definitely looks better in cutscenes now

[distant oar]

I like the first one more. Looks more cinematic for cutscenes at least

But Gameplay is better in fixed exposure for sure

[shut violet]

yea i'm in the same boat

fixed looks more realistic probably but its kinda boring

[lunar ibex]

should it be this dark

[shut violet]

the base preset is a lot darker now

I had to rise shadows

[rustic bridge]

random screenshot

[shut violet]

it was crushing blacks on the analyzer graph

[lunar ibex]

yeah even maxing out game brightness

[shut violet]

experimental vanilla preset:

[lunar ibex]

why 798 peak brightness

[shut violet]

790

that's my display's peak brightness

[rustic bridge]

chatacabra hunt

[lunar ibex]

odd number 😛

[shut violet]

adjust it to yours

[shut violet]

lg C1 clips at 790

[dense knot]

Exposure post grade: Up pregrade luminance to match postgrade
Exposure pre grade: Lower postgrade luminance to match pregrade

Luminance changes affect color, but the slider is correct (100.f is postgrade color, 0.f is pregrade color)

[rustic bridge]

weather cycling

[cloud vessel]

Latest build doesn't link to 3.6

[dense knot]

Vanilla is only there to compare, sliders won't work

[distant oar]

Thanks for the explanation. I was almost certain that I was not understanding something about these settings 🙏

[dense knot]

Their LUTs sometimes saturate and sometimes desaturate

[dense knot]

Postgrade?

[rustic bridge]

ok

yes

some rey dau hunting

[glacial plank]

I haven't had the time to play yet, but is the LUT slider broken atm, or if you used 0 before it's fine?

[distant oar]

Ritsu said its working correctly

[rustic bridge]

for red lovers, lala barina

i'm on fsr balanced so it's undersampled and pixelated

my settings, still tuning them

[shut violet]

@dense knot Is it normal that the "Off/Real Vanilla" colors are very different compared to the base preset?

Base preset vs Off/Vanilla

one is greenish the other is orangish

skin looks better with the vanila lut/color

[glacial plank]

@distant oar I'm booting that one dream preset with the old version, wish me luck 😸

[rustic bridge]

ajakaran hunt

[distant oar]

New Fixed Exposure Preset. Its nothing too special but it does have a more modern look and should work nicely in every area of the game

[glacial plank]

I don't think I've used anything like that when we tried it, but I do think we had similar results in the recent presets, lemme show some pics

also would like to know which gamma are we using in the newest renodx versions, maybe @dense knot can confirm it's just 2.2 always, while before we had the BT.1886 version, which does seem to make things look a little more "clear" in a sense

like, man, there IS something magical about this preset, but I can't really pinpoint what. The last 2 screenshots are Gamma BT.1886 and Gamma 2.2

[distant oar]

Is that the first preset I posted? Looks very oversaturated witout the PP removal mod

[glacial plank]

I'm not sure if it's first, I think it was the one after LUT thingie was added, but I'm pretty sure that's the one preset I really liked. It does seem a bit oversaturated now after all the other presets yeah haha

[shut violet]

Looks nice, but the desert area looks soo weird, the colors on the 5th picture are wrong 😦

[distant oar]

Probably because I made these with the post processing removal mod. Because that also removes the lut

[glacial plank]

holy shit that 4th screenshot looks GORGEOUS, I have to try this

[shut violet]

this is the price of fixed exp/low lut str

[glacial plank]

what did you adjust in it, and do you still use it?

[distant oar]

Im not using it anymore. But the first presets I posted here some time ago used it. Back then there was only an option to turn all post processing off so thats what I used

[shut violet]

I think I can finally start my playthrough with this vanilla like preset:
[renodx-preset3]
ColorGradeBlowout=0
ColorGradeContrast=50
colorGradeContrast=55
ColorGradeExposure=1.4
colorGradeExposure=1
ColorGradeFlare=50
ColorGradeHighlights=40
colorGradeHighlights=57
ColorGradeHighlightSaturation=30
ColorGradeLUTColorStrength=100
ColorGradeLUTOutputStrength=100
colorGradeSaturation=50
ColorGradeSaturation=47
ColorGradeSDRTonemapper=3
ColorGradeShadows=54
colorGradeShadows=62
CustomToneMapMethod=1
FxExposure=50
FxExposureStrength=50
FxExposureType=0
FxFilmGrain=30
FxLUTExposureReverse=0
FxOutput=0
FxSharpness=50
FxVignette=50
GammaCorrection=2
SwapChainCustomColorSpace=0
toneMapGameNits=203
ToneMapGameNits=170
ToneMapHueCorrection=100
ToneMapHueProcessor=0
ToneMapHueShift=50
ToneMapPeakNits=790
toneMapPeakNits=790
ToneMapScaling=0
ToneMapType=1
ToneMapUINits=203
toneMapUINits=203

[glacial plank]

now I'm pretty sure that the magical difference lies in the gamma setting, I wish we could adjust it again, I love the look of these deeper shadows

[distant oar]

@dense knot Feel free to use any of my screenshots if you still need some for the nexus page

[dense knot]

Yeah.

[dense knot]

Always 2.2, anything else is wrong

Higher gammas are just extra contrast

[glacial plank]

so basically I can achieve the same look as BT.1886 if I up contrast, right?

[dense knot]

V3.6.1

Changelog:

• Adjust tonemapper
• Add back advanced sliders (Exposure stuff and LUT Strength)
• Add SDR compatibility (Fix SDR tonemapping)
• Fix Vanilla and preset off
• (New) Up the midtones a bit

[glacial plank]

the prince preset legacy forcing a new version still prevails

[distant oar]

[dense knot]

Yes

[distant oar]

Some Arkveld Screenshots in RenoDx V3.6.1 with this preset

[indigo stratus]

Sorry for the stupid question but will it be a visual upgrade going from 3.5 to 3.6.1 if i do not want to tweak any settings besides Luminance? i have a QD Oled Display

[rustic bridge]

that's nice red

for a moment i thought i was watching a ff16 screenshot

[merry tartan]

very quickly put together, don't have a ton of time to test (never do on weekends funny enough lol). In case anybody wants to try it and give feedback.

[shut violet]

My fixed/pregrade/0 color LUT str preset - Your preset - Off/Vanilla - Default preset

the default preset LUT/color is definitely wrong

highlights are weird

[distant oar]

Looks good! The only thing I would change is the color lut as it seems to blow out colors in highlights really quick in pregrade at 100

[merry tartan]

I was in a rush and didn’t end up messing with it, I’ll probably end up setting to 60 though (been a fan of that value)

[distant oar]

Yea anything close to 50 looks really nice with pregrade 💯

[merry tartan]

Agreed

[merry tartan]

Thanks!

[distant oar]

The colors probably blow out a bit too late in this preset. Setting color lut from 35 to 40-50 should fix this

[shut violet]

Vanilla exposure/Pregrade/100 Color LUT str 🤔

[distant oar]

Using cutscenes is probably not the best Idea because the game is doing some stuff differently compared to normal gameplay

[shut violet]

I want a preset that looks good in both cutscenes and in-game

[glacial plank]

this looks fantastic, what in-game settings do you use and do you use any other mods at all?

[simple cipher]

Thx for the 3.5 preset, it looks amazing. Just one question. I deleted the post-processing mod because Reno DX already has most of its settings. But using a mod that turns off lens distortion is ok, there's no option to turn it off in Reno, right?

[rustic bridge]

I see, i was remembering of this cover of ff16 when i played it on ps5 at releasehttps://down-id.img.susercontent.com/file/id-11134207-7qul1-ljh62mudowte6b

and ingame there are a lot of fire scenes of course 🙂

[distant oar]

Thanks! I just use these RenoDx Settings #1347155473266114580 message + the ShaderToggler Addon to remove the sharpening shader that Jon shared a while ago. No other Mods

[distant oar]

Oh yea, youre right. I get what you mean now

[distant oar]

I have everything on max Except: Clouds: Medium, Shadows: Medium, Far Shadows: Low, Shadow Distance: Medium, AO: Medium,

[glacial plank]

oh, I never tried that one, I gotta try it out. Do you still use the lilium cas?

[distant oar]

Oh yeah, sorry I forgot to list that one.

[glacial plank]

what value do you prefer in it?

[white wyvern]

I just remembered this conversation.
And after playing for 100 hours, I think I know which ones are the rarest decos.
Its not crit boost, not tenderizer or artillery.
2 rarest in my opinion are: pierce and spread. 😄

[shut violet]

I think I'm finally happy with this fixed exp/pre grade preset

[shut violet]

that shadertoggler addon no longer works I think, it does nothing when I press tab, can you test it?

[glacial plank]

I wish there was a mod to upgrade sky textures

that stuff looks straight up from 3ds era

😸

[distant oar]

I use 0.1700. But that is probably subjective to resolution

[glacial plank]

that's funny, I use 1600 so I guess we like the similar look of it

in some versions I dropped it lower because it felt like sharpening was higher for some reason

[shut violet]

I use 0.12 😄

[glacial plank]

also I think I found a decent way to bring the things I liked about that primordial preset by tweaking your latest a little bit

it's pretty minor but I like the slightly contrasty look

[distant oar]

Tab?

I think it only loads when starting the game

Do you mean that you use a hotkey to enable it?

[glacial plank]

it says you can capslock to toggle, but I also did not notice any difference (perhaps because I disabled sharpening in the game's .ini?)

[shut violet]

the default hotkey is tab if you press it you can enable/disable it

I don't think that the addon works as of ver 3.6

[distant oar]

Yeah, the toggle is not working

[shut violet]

the "sharpening" might be disabled by default now

oh nvm it does work

but it does nothing on fixed exp

haha

the "sharpening" is "disabled" by default with fixed exposure

[scarlet fossil]

uhhh is contrast 80 for preset #1 in latest renodx intended?

[glacial plank]

it's probably your old settings

[scarlet fossil]

hmm

[glacial plank]

default reno is now 50 across the board I believe and in vanilla grading

press reset to see it

[scarlet fossil]

yea i pressed reset, everything went to 50 but its all super dark now

[glacial plank]

#1347155473266114580 message

you can try this preset

it looks great

not sure about evrything being super dark though, amybe that's a separate issue

[scarlet fossil]

yea it was user error oh my god

accidently preset my hdr toggle twice and it went back to SDR rofl

[cloud vessel]

It might also be darker cuz 3.5 onwards uses a calculation for paper white

So it might end up lower than the old default

[timid quail]

Do I have to do anything to the shader toggle to make it work? When I load it there are no groups pre selected

[shut violet]

the shader toggler is only required for vanilla exposure

[timid quail]

I’m still playing around with vanilla exp some, 10-4. I’m going to keep it around just in case

Because I hate that damn sharpening

[robust phoenix]

WHICH ONE

[brave lantern]

I hope these come through as HDR. If not let me know I used ReShade SS hotkey. V3.6.1 and the settings I'm using on OLED 1000nits. Looks great. Thanks again for the continued hard work going on around this.

[glacial plank]

it was a VERY old one (version 1.x or something), don't worry about it xd

[glacial plank]

looks great! gonna try your settings when I boot the game too

[brave lantern]

As always i'm a sliders noob, so if it looks bad to you let me know what you end up tweaking.

[glacial plank]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MHWilds/s/W7B9MWiW81 this makes me wish romance was added to the game 😆

[open prawn]

Preset is awesome as usual, thanks again for your service

[robust phoenix]

You`re using an older version right? Mine doesnt have most of those options

[glacial plank]

should be this version #1347155473266114580 message

[distant oar]

Its the version Xaeji just linked you. Try turning off hdr in wilds and turning it back on if there are soliders missing

You also need to set the settings slider to advanced

[robust phoenix]

weird, yeah my version doesnt have a few of those sliders

i'll do as you say, thank you

no surprise, it worked

i'll try the setings you guys are playign with!

[modest ravine]

@dense knot did you see that the square around the player affecting water texture stops moving when you turn off water effects? Hoping you might know what is causing this on AMD.

[rich finch]

Is there a way to donate? Really appreciate developer's effort on this, makes the game playable!

[glacial plank]

definitely, check out #❣️support-us pinned message

[rich finch]

Thanks, Is that going to be distributed to Ritsu/Jon/Short fuse who worked for Reno for wild specifically?

[glacial plank]

that I don't really know, probably gotta get the details from them 😅

[night dirge]

HDR den ko-fi donos are shared between the admins and our mod.
Ritsu has their own ko-fi.
No idea about Jon.

I want to talk to the other admins about giving Ritsu a share of our current amassed pool.
I didn't follow this channel much because there are constantly new messages, so I don't know much about Jon's involvement other than that they did the presets.

[merry tartan]

Helped a lot along the way but it was ultimately Ritsu’s mod, wouldn’t wanna get anything from it considering.

[merry tartan]

was curious to see how the presets compared and this is fucking fascinating to me lmao. These are the waveforms of both of our presets (at the same paper white/peak)

oh, also if I set my fixed exposure to the same value. Mine was dimmer.

now mine at the paper white and exposure I was using and yours at the paper white and exposure you were using

crazy to me that we eyeballed almost the exact same thing

[merry tartan]

with that discovery out of the way, I changed my sliders around to minimize their use and tweaked a couple things. Pretty happy with this now, just wish the cutscene experience with fixed exposure could be better.

[distant oar]

Wait what lol. I guess, great minds think alike . Thanks for taking your time to compare them.

We really did have the same idea on how fixed exposure should look

[dense knot]

I have an idea of the issue, just tedious to fix 😅

[dense knot]

Try these

[south furnace]

just a few ive gotten with this preset with brightness settings adjusted to my monitor, probably wont look anything too spectacular as its in true black 400 mode, thanks aggressive ABL 😆

[dense knot]

@modest ravine This one too

[shut violet]

I wanted to create a preset that works for both gameplay and cutscenes, with fixed exp, but it’s not really possible atm :/

[verbal turret]

this is going to be a stupid question but i'm guessing the game does different colour grading for different scenes, but this information isn't available to addons like renodx?

[dense knot]

It does, but the info is available to renodx

[distant oar]

Thats what the Color Lut slider in renoDx controls

[verbal turret]

oo that's neat

[left void]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but are sliders supposed to work for vanilla tone mapping?

[merry tartan]

No

[left void]

Got it, thanks

[midnight vortex]

great! even better with ui brightness brought back🙏

[foggy tide]

Why old version? And what are you using it to remove? I thought renodx already fixed stuff like exposure and over-sharpening from dlss

[distant oar]

I dont use the Post Processing removal mod anymore. The preset I posted under that message also doesnt use it. The message you are reffering to was a seperate answer to a message from Xaeji #1347155473266114580 message where I got told that he/she wants to try out my old preset where I used that mod

Im gonna delete that message because it seems to confuse people lol

[frosty osprey]

1st load seems fine, then I quit and save the game. Try to boot-up the game again and somehow some sliders dissappear ? anyone experiencing this too ?

[humble crag]

ty @dense knot for making this work for sdr 😩

my obligatory comparison screenshots

[south furnace]

i found it disappears before the game fully loads, then for some reason comes back

[frosty osprey]

@dense knot somehow the mod detected the game as SDR , once I turn in-game setting HDR output OFF then back to ON again, the complete renoDX setting cameback with all the sliders

[south furnace]

that would explain it, my game seems to be in sdr till it gets past a certain load point

[midnight vortex]

exactly, but hdr function well, seems to be a ui bug ?

no such case before v3.6

in fact, reshade config is loaded correctly (which is saved before v3.6)

such as ui / game / peak brightness

[dense knot]

We added SDR compatibility in 3.6

HDR sliders are hidden in SDR

[frosty osprey]

yes , but mine supposed to be HDR but it detected as SDR.

once I changed the in-game setting HDR output off then ON again then all the HDR sliders shows up

[frosty osprey]

so everytime I restart the game , i have to do this

[dense knot]

That's weird, doesn't happen with me

Check if hdrMode is set to true in the game's config.ini,

[frosty osprey]

yeap , mine is set to 'True'

[alpine tree]

hmm I really like how 2.2 looked will updating to the newest version change that look a lot?

[dense knot]

Yes

Create a backup of your Reshade preset and give it a try

You can always go back

[midnight vortex]

btw r u also using sk ?

[alpine tree]

hmm since I am pretty new to this, do you think the newest version is a better hdr experience compared to 2.2?

[sonic mesa]

Hello and thanks for the work again ! If i was pleased with the stock RenoDX 2.2 did i need to keep it or there is some preset somewhere for 3.6.1 that look better ? (sorry i know reshade but RenoDX it's the first time)

[dense knot]

Yes

[midnight vortex]

on ur case, beside w/o sliders, is it output correct hdr pic ? @frosty osprey

[dense knot]

Just backup your reshade preset and test it out

[sonic mesa]

hummm. there is nothing in my preset beside CAS.fx, when i say renodx stock i mean really stock. I will learn by trying! Thank for the help 😉

[midnight vortex]

omo, it's way more impt & challenging to appreciate creator's orig intent than just focusing on the aesthetic, so im positive towards the new ver🤔

[merry tartan]

the renodx presets are stored in reshade.ini

so backup your reshade.ini if you aren't sure about whether you want the new version or not

[sonic mesa]

Thank! finded 🙂

[alpine tree]

Which preset do you guys recommend with the newest version?

[distant oar]

I made one for the new version: #1347155473266114580 message . But I can also recommend Jon's new Preset: #1347155473266114580 message

[alpine tree]

I thank you prince

[merry tartan]

they've very similar, prince's is a little more saturated with less bias towards original grading.

[alpine tree]

I see thank you for your input

[white wyvern]

Loving this preset!

[distant oar]

Thanks!!! 🙏

[white wyvern]

And I disabled RT for the first time. Is it just me or the game looks better without RT? lol.

[dawn meadow]

loving this for sdr, thanks a ton

the banding is a bit of a shame though

eagerly waiting to see the fix come

[alpine tree]

Hmm I tried both presets I just have the issues that anything thats somehow dark is too dark lmao, which brightness level did you guys play with?

[shut violet]

hmm contrast and saturation are too high imo

[thin fjord]

what monitor do you have? mine crushes black so I always raise shadows or otherwise it looks too dark

[humble crag]

that said im realizing it looks diff to everyone else because I use flux over everything lol

without flux on i fully agree

[alpine tree]

I use the ROG PG279QM

[thin fjord]

no FALD? I wouldn't use HDR with that monitor

[alpine tree]

Oh really?

[thin fjord]

personally

[alpine tree]

I did raise the shadows and it solved it for me so thank you for that tip

[rustic bridge]

any new version today?

[wheat dragon]

are these images HDR? or SDR? cause i try to take images from MH Wilds in HDR, but when it converts to SDR, it looks really bad

[thin fjord]

use reshade screenshot or configure special k to save as hdr png

those are hdr images

[frosty osprey]

yes I am using SK . And also w/o the sliders, the output still correct even during early boot-up game. So it is just UI bug for me.

[modest ravine]

Test14 doesn't fix it. L7 and L10 prevent the game from launching.

[lunar ibex]

Ui brightness shouldce always been there unless you weren't in hdr mode?

It has only disappeared for people who got kicked out of hdr mode

If your peak brightness and ui brightness sliders disappear, disable and reenable hdr ingame

[ancient ibex]

loving Jon's preset #1347155473266114580 message

[rain sigil]

what’s your monitor?

[ancient ibex]

aw3423dwf was in peak 1000 mode but just switched to true black 400 to try that. i also have a neo g7 i've tried using the default preset with, but i like the oled more, even though it's not as bright

i was watching a video earlier comparing a different oled monitor to the neo g8, and at 7:32 you can see the difference in blacks and contrast under the bridge... the mini led crushes the blacks. whole video is good https://youtu.be/JBz5lHiqNJ0?si=Wia7iFVbFSTJElBP&t=452

also the aw3225qf or 2725df/ 2725Q are the monitors i wish i had instead, i don't like dealing with ultrawide

[knotty cypress]

also ultrawides are only 1440p

unless you get that one Samsung LCD

with terrible pq tracking

[ancient ibex]

the 2725df is 16:9 1440p too... i'd be fine with that. higher fps at least. but yeah, I would prefer a flat 27" 4k qd-oled like the aw2725Q (or different brand)

[ancient ibex]

even with the ABL, might be worth it to try peak 1000... for this at least I think it looks better.
I don't have my HR60 save anymore so I don't have access to areas except forest and plains right now...
preset 1 is default and preset 2 is jon's

don't know why the dots are there... maybe because it's saving two screenshots at the same time? one with overlay and one without

especially with Jon's preset the extra peak brightness helps a lot

took those with Tb400 and peak 1000

[south furnace]

I'll give it a go what monitor do you have?

[ancient ibex]

aw3423DWF

just make sure to do a calibration again (or load one for peak 1000)

[south furnace]

I have one calibrated for each I'll try it again when I get home

It may be that the true black looks better during the daytime irl for me but I might find the 1000 peak good in the evening

[ancient ibex]

nevermind. the dots are terrain going transparent due to camera angle. not as much of an issue if i lower ultrawide fov multiplier in re framework some

[distant oar]

These are HDR images. Why do you want to convert them to SDR? You can take HDR Screenshots with Reshade or SpecialK

[waxen rose]

Does your monitor’s EDID also report less than 1000nits peak? Mine does at 994 and I have the same monitor

[south furnace]

i tweaked a few monitor settings and my peak1000 looks better, my issue wasnt so much the dimming but the colours would appear more dull when it did, but it seems to be better, seems our monitors get similar peaks with full screen so i decided to dig into why mine felt off, thankyou 😄

[frail nest]

hello, new here, wanted to try this renodx, do i need to enable hdr on my pc or this works with sdr too?

[ancient ibex]

where do you see that? i used the hdr calibration app and it clips at 1000

between 990 and 1000 i guess

close enough

[waxen rose]

Can see it in Reno or win11 system settings under advanced monitor

[ancient ibex]

for me reno goes to whatever the hdr calibration app profile is set to

[waxen rose]

Ah yeah, this is without the calibration profile

[white wyvern]

Got the platinum! And got it in HDR.
Thanks RenoTeam! 😄

[zinc sapphire]

when I started using RenoDX I used TrueBlack 400 mode, but switched to Peak1000 mode pretty soon after, I think I like the later for the darker levels for sure, but in the "last" area ||wyvernsomething|| which is very bright because of the "middle" part you can tell how the ABL is hitting hard, so maybe I should try TB400 again 🐸

(I have a different monitor fwiw)

[dense knot]

Try this

[zinc sapphire]

@dense knot again

[dense knot]

Did it get approved for a bit then quarantined again?!

[zinc sapphire]

looks like it 🐸

[zinc pagoda]

I tried the lens distorsion off mod only but it doesn't seem to work, even when I deactivate/activate in reframwork there is no difference

Renodx is compatible ?

[ornate otter]

is there anything i should do if it keep stuttering?
if i delete and rebuild the shader today, it'll be stuttering again tomorrow and i need to build it again which took 30min+ T_T

[glacial plank]

it is compatible, you need to change your settings after switching it on and off too so keep that in mind (any graphic settings works I think)

[zinc pagoda]

I tried but still nothing has changed

[glacial plank]

try a different version of lens distortion removal maybe, not sure what could be the issue for you

[rare stream]

@trim tangle I hope it's alright that I just mention you out of the blue but from what I've gathered so far, it appears to be working for you under Linux?
I'm using Nobara KDE and everything appears to be working up to the point where I change settings in the renoDX ReShade addon, where it makes no difference what I do. In-game HDR settings still work.

I saw at least two people with the same problem in this thread and tried applying your suggestions:

• ReShade is installed correctly and working fine with effect presets (if that is the word), with addon support (I can see the renoDX ReShade window ingame and move the sliders but nothing happens) - done using reshade-linux
• ReFramework is also installed correctly and working (I like modding), along with ReFramework-d2d. I also disabled all mods but nothing changed.
• d3dcompiler_42, _43, _46 and _47 are installed via ProtonTricks (double-checked)
• same for vcrun2022 (also double-checked)
• HDR is enabled and working, usually using gamescope launch option (when using vanilla HDR settings, I can see changes so I'm pretty sure HDR is working, vanilla ist just much less pronounced than renoDX would be? I'll see if I can be 100% sure Edit: gamescope reports HDR ON)
• I managed to get Steam running entirely via gamescope after a bit of back-and-forth, and ran Wilds that way - only to end up in the same place 😦 terminal reads server hdr output enabled: true hdr formats exposed to client: true
• I'm not using SpecialK but I am running gamemoderun in tandem with gamescope
• I have multiple WINEDLLOVERRIDES set but for different dlls and it is working (directstorage update, ReShade)

Any idea what else I could try? Which parameters/flags are you running your gamescope -- steam with? Maybe I'm missing an environment variable or something along those lines.

@vague otter did you manage to get it working?

[vague otter]

I didn't get it working in MH Wilds, but i tried in other games and my setup worked fine there, so not sure what the issue is tbh
Some people mentioned the game using different shaders for AMD cards, so that might also be the issue

[rare stream]

interesting, thank you! I'll see if I can get it working for a different game as well.

[rare stream]

Yup, it is working in a different game (Tactical Breach Wizards in my case). Thank you for the idea 🙂

[zinc sapphire]

you can try this: #1347155473266114580 message

works fine

unless something changed

[robust phoenix]

fellas, how do i disable special K to go on automatically for every opened game?

[magic pawn]

what is the last version ?

[jade halo]

There's a disable button on SK window

you can also right click the SK icon in task bar and choose to stop service

or just close down SK? the options are endless lol

[robust phoenix]

i see, but is there not a way to make it never inject by default, and only inject on selected games?

even when on

[ancient ibex]

does it still do that? i know skif did, does the discord build do that? hasn't for me

nevermind. look for the global injection setting

[merry tartan]

just don't use the global injection service. Launch for a specific game through the launcher and it should disable itself.

Alternatively, you can add SKIF %COMMAND% to launch options for steam games and it will automatically inject for just that game.

[ancient ibex]

either at bottom right of special k or right click the system tray icon

[white wyvern]

If you wanna do pro strats then start using PlayNite.

• It consolidates all your libraries (Steam, GOG, EGS, etc) into one view
• Has a plug-in for SK that you can use to control when to inject SK on a per game basis.
• Has several other great features like free game alerts etc.
• Can also use to detect/manage if a game supports HDR natively and can switch to HDR r that game (SK does that too).

[robust phoenix]

oooh sounds nice

where do i get that?

[white wyvern]

It’s free. Just look it up on Google.

https://playnite.link/

[ancient ibex]

if you use the isthereanydeal plugins just be aware that if you also use the gamepass plugin it might add game pass games to your owned games on isthereanydeal

[robust phoenix]

thanks friend, i'll give it a shot.

[thin fjord]

Playnite is pretty good I use that a lot with Apollo/Sunshine to stream to my steam deck

[merry tartan]

I had no clue there was an sk extension for playnite, huh.

I should give playnite a better shot

[ancient ibex]

one thing i like about it is you can use pcgamingwiki as a metadata source, then use feature tags to search for games that support ultrawide or hdr, or both if you click the match all filters button

[merry tartan]

my biggest issue was not liking the UI much but I see it has themes...

[thin fjord]

yeah the ui in desktop mode is still not that amazing even with themes for me

but in big picture it is nice

[merry tartan]

need somebody to make an XMB theme

[ancient ibex]

maybe this for fullscreen mode? https://playnite.link/addons.html#DashX_saVantCZ

[outer lodge]

Playnite is great

[white wyvern]

yessir. It allows you to disable global injection altogether. Or (the way I use it), manage which games should launch with SK and which shouldn’t. You can maintain it on a per game basis and change it whenever you want.

[meager tendon]

Vanilla exposure at 50 lut and 45 exposure strength is honestly really nice

maybe even lower on the exposure strength but need to bring up the shadows

[trim tangle]

Using Arch Linux here. 7900XTX with latest kernel and Mesa Git.
Using either Proton Experimental or latest proton-ge-custom.
I installed Reshade, using the Windows version, with Protontricks. Same with the other stuff.
Ran Steam in Gamescope via

gamescope --output-width 2560 --output-height 1440 --nested-width 2560 --nested-height 1440 --nested-refresh 120 --rt --immediate-flips --hdr-enabled --hdr-itm-enable --sdr-gamut-wideness 1 --hdr-sdr-content-nits 450 --hdr-itm-sdr-nits 450 --steam -- steam -steamos -gamepadui -pipewire-dmabuf

Set DXVK_HDR=1 environment variable in game's custom command, to enable HDR.
And that's about it.

[languid gyro]

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[modest ravine]

i think we are on oppisite timezones or sleep schedules haha. this is a .pdb file type?

[stoic oak]

how do I get more sliders in my options? is it just based on what monitor I'm using? This is mine right now

[distant oar]

Turn HDR off and on again

In game options I mean

[stoic oak]

no luck :/

[rain sigil]

same to me

[cerulean acorn]

So which is the right place to set your monitors peak brightness?

[robust phoenix]

fellas, the disable post processing mod alwayts makes my screen go dark on roars and IBs with renodx

is it just here?

[distant oar]

Keep the checkbox checked that disabled vanilla exposure in the mod and use renoDx fixed exposure

[rich finch]

Hey guys, just sharing some of the new vanila +vs fixed exposure pre grade, really enjoy the visual! Vanila+ is alwys at left

[rich finch]

try the pp strudel shared b4, it just turns off lens distortion, no any conflict for me#1347155473266114580 message

only problem of fixed exposure is it cannot fit in all scenarios, always some over/under exposure

but sometimes it looks better

[rich finch]

btw is the pre grade disable the second lut in previous reno?

Off vs Vanila+ vs Fixed

[distant oar]

Sry, what do you mean?

[rich finch]

just to remind the orginal visual looks so narrow

[distant oar]

Nice Screenshots! But keep in mind that you should add some contrast when using fixed exposure + preGrade (For best results)

[rich finch]

I feel pre grade removes some lut, do you know what's that adjusting?

[rich finch]

thanks! I am okay with current contrast, but will have a try

[distant oar]

PreGrade will cause RenoDx to lower postgrade luminance to match pregrade. And Luminance affects color. #1347155473266114580 message

[rich finch]

umm, so pre-grade remove all the colour correction/lut and also lower the final luminance? That's why Ritsu recommend increase the exposure ?

[distant oar]

No. PreGrade just affects colors. The LUT is not removed

[rich finch]

I see, but I do feel local exposure is sharper than fixed exposure, I guess local exposure has a sharperning built in function as well?

[distant oar]

Someone mentioned that the ShaderToggler Sharpness disable thing doesnt have any effect in fixed exposure so it could be possible that it is affected

But if I remember correctly, the sharpness thing was added back into Reno so im not 100% sure

[rich finch]

I didn't see such in the 3.6

[distant oar]

I recommend using the shaderToggler

[distant oar]

It was mentioned but there is no slider for it

[rich finch]

cool, thanks mate, I will try, vanila+is too sharp for me now

[rich finch]

https://github.com/FransBouma/ShaderToggler is this the shade toggler?

[distant oar]

Yes

[distant oar]

#1347155473266114580 message

Place the .ini in your Game folder

[robust phoenix]

i wanna turn off the sharpneing the game has ;/

[robust phoenix]

thank you!

[distant oar]

Some more screenshots from this preset. I love how it looks at night and in dark areas.

[rich finch]

Yeah the dusk looks so good

[stoic oak]

amd freesync issue. resolved with this if anyone else gets this https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1izx1oa/fix_for_monster_hunter_wilds_hdr/

[distant oar]

Try this: #1347155473266114580 message

[tawdry horizon]

In a nutshell, how do you use the shaderToggler? I installed it earlier today, but didn't really understand what to do with it.

[rich finch]

I guess we just need to add this to be used in the toggle ini after saved wild's shaders fromthe shader toggler addon

[robust phoenix]

what would this do exactly?

[distant oar]

@tawdry horizon Just drop the .ini file in your game directory. The addon file goes in the same folder as renoDx

[distant oar]

Removes the sharpening effect

Someone tested it a few days ago and came to the conclusion that it only affects vanilla exposure #1347155473266114580 message

Sharpening for fixed exposure seems to always be disabled

But I havent tested it myself

[rich finch]

yeah it is just confirmed

It works well! Thanks for picking out the shader

Don't know how you can find out, so many shaders

It looks better know by replacing with lilium sharpener

I have a lot of freezing screen this week when changing equipments, probably need to check my mods...

[tawdry horizon]

Thanks! Thought I had to mess around with the settings.

[dense knot]

Ah I sent the wrong file mb

[gritty ingot]

anyone have a good settings for sdr?

[dense dew]

Where can I download the latest files?

[crisp steppe]

check pins

[crisp steppe]

.

[glacial plank]

so, which Tonemapper are we using in 3.6.1, since there's no choice, I assume only one is present at the moment, is that right?

[dense knot]

I assume you mean the old SDR tonemapper?

Technically Reinhard, but current code is different so it's incomparable

[glacial plank]

I see, so heji was removed completely? was it bad in some way?

asking since I noticed someone mention on nexus that they like 2.2 version the most on OLED so I went back to try it out again. No concrete thoughts yet since I didn't have much time to play, but was wondering why it was removed

[dense knot]

Heji achieves it's look by crushing blacks, it was just a coincidence that looked good in MH

[glacial plank]

interesting, I guess it kinda makes sense that it'd work well in MH since it already has some very funky black levels

[ancient ibex]

For a little bit I was using Jon's fixed exposure preset (with peak 1000 mode), but for now I went back to using the default settings (reset all button)/ local exposure in true black 400 mode. I think Jon's fixed exposure settings are too dark with true black 400, looks good with peak 1000.
Jon's preset: #1347155473266114580 message
PrinceOfBelAir made this one: #1347155473266114580 message

oh, tonemapper not preset

[glacial plank]

would it be possible to add it back in case you'll make new versions? Just so we can experiment with it more if we like it? I feel like MHW black levels are so broken in a sense that if you want all the black colors to be present, you'll have to alleviate the whole picture a lot and it will automatically cause the less contrasty look in a sense. So, in some ways, crushing some blacks seems "intended" to get the better looking picture specifically in MH in terms of contrast. Or at least that's my assumption, I'm not specifically savvy in the whole HDR department as you guys are.

[dense knot]

I don't intend to add tonemappers now that they're not needed

Hejl won't look good with the new method anyways

You can get Reinhard to behave the same if you set flare to 78

[alpine tree]

What does flare actually do if you don't mind my asking?

[dense knot]

It adjusts near blackpoint range

Technically it crushes blacks

[alpine tree]

Aah I see, thank you

[languid sparrow]

I've been using the RenoDX mod and Post Processing mod from Nexus. Do I have to mess with the settings for RenoDX at all or just plug and play? Also if I read correctly above I should use the Disable Lens Distortion mod over the PP mod to fix the screen darkening on roars right?

[alpine tree]

The game in general without lens distortion looks a whole lot better honestly but thats from my experience

[languid sparrow]

It does look incredibly better.

The Post Processing mod is what I use to disable Lens Distortion and Volumetric Fog to make the picture better. RenoDX for the HDR implementation but I just left RenoDX on all default just wanted to make sure that's the right thing to do.

[alpine tree]

Hmmm there is two presets I know of you can try one is by jon and one by prince maybe I still have the screenshots

Try out one of these and see which one is better

[languid sparrow]

Thank you I will give it a try when I get home today. I'll try switching to the Disable Lens Distortion mod too, to see if that fixes the monster roars darkening the screen.

[alpine tree]

You're very welcome otherwise if you have monitor that crushes blacks quite easily play around with the settings shadows and flare

[languid sparrow]

I have a AW3225QF. Its pretty good imo. I don't notice any crushed blacks.

[wooden merlin]

monster roars darkening the screen might be the post processing effects, at least it was for me.

disabling local exposure fixed this

[languid sparrow]

Awesome I'll give that a try thank you.

[tawdry horizon]

Where is the option to choose between True Black 400 and Peak 1000 mode?

I see people talking about it here but don't know where it is.

[dense dew]

I also want to know.

My monitor is MO27Q2.

[languid sparrow]

Should be in your monitor OSD settings.

At least mine is.

[tawdry horizon]

Hmm. I have a Corsair Xeneon Flex 45WQHD240. I don't see it in my OSD settings at all

[ebon tide]

it's not on all monitors

[tawdry horizon]

I see. Thanks! And thank you to @languid sparrow as well for pointing me in the right direction.

[distant oar]

I would not recommend to disable volumetric fog entirely. There are a lot of areas that will look worse without it

[languid sparrow]

I see I thought you had same monitor as me.

[languid sparrow]

Oh really? Alright I'll make sure to turn it back on.

[alpine tree]

Yeah I agree with prince, without volumetric fog it makes the game look weird in certain areas where its usually supposed to be so it looks unappealing

[wooden merlin]

sorry realized my answer was confusing. You should enable local exposure in the post processing mod since the current presets all used fixed exposure.
Disabling local exposure is what makes my screen go dark when the monsters roar

[languid sparrow]

Thank you for clarifying. I will try it out along with the presets ryujin posted. Hopefully that works and makes the HDR look good with a cleaner picture than default/stock settings. It already looks way better just with the default RenoDX settings and Post Processing mods.

[meager tendon]

Trying to understand the sliders a little better and was wondering what differences are made between exposure vs exposure strength

[dense knot]

Similar functionality

Exposure strength is more for pregrade exposure

[meager tendon]

ah good to know

[dense dew]

Why do my screenshots have such strange colors?

[dense dew]

I use this set

[dense knot]

V3.7.0

Changelog:

• Minor tonemapper adjustments
• Add RCAS sharpness slider (Courtesy of Lilium & Musa)
• Add Filmic preset

[dense dew]

But my game doesn’t look like this, why?

[dense knot]

You're taking SDR screenshots

Use latest reshade for HDR screenshots

[dense dew]

how to HDR screenshots?thanks!

[dense knot]

Use latest reshade (6.4.1) and take a screenshot with it (I believe the bind is PrtScreen)

[dense dew]

Do I need to enable Windows 11 HDR at the same time?
Or does it not affect anything?

[dense dew]

And is it set up like this here?!

[dense knot]

Yes

[dense knot]

Once you enable HDR in windows and the game, SK will switch to passthrough mode

I assume you're using renodx

[dense dew]

I am using renodx

[dense dew]

this ,right?

[dense knot]

Yes

[dense dew]

I am using this parameter, but it doesn’t look the same for me...

[distant oar]

You need to switch to HDR10 Native (top right corner of screenshot) and change tonemap mode to raw framebuffer (or passthrough mode)

Enable HDR in Windows and restart the game

[wooden merlin]

with 3.6.1 and post processing disable mod my game looks super dark in cutscenes, only way to fix this for me is by enabling color correction post processing. Any idea what's causing this? I use prince's settings with fixed exposure.

[distant oar]

Also enable HDR in the game and leave the HDR settings at default

[distant oar]

Do not use the postProcessing mod color correction or exposure settings with RenoDx

[distant oar]

Just leave the color correction and exposure stuff enabled in the postProcessing mod. renoDx handles this on its own

[dense dew]

Are you saying it like this?

[distant oar]

Yes. If there is still something wrong try raw framebuffer

[dense dew]

where is raw framebuffer,sorry my english is bad😭

[distant oar]

In tonemap mode

[wooden merlin]

i see thanks. Colors look more washed out with color correction on though, but just a tad. guess i'll increase saturation

[distant oar]

Dont worry, passthrough should also work

[distant oar]

You can disable the color correction by setting the Color lut slider to 0 in renoDx

[dense dew]

is that same!?

[distant oar]

I cant tell by only seeing one screenshot. Try to compare your game with my screenshots while being in the same areas in the game

If you enabled HDR in the Game and in windows + adjusted renoDx settings it should work

[dense dew]

I think my game looks much brighter than your screenshot. My monitor is MO27Q2, and the mode I have enabled is HDR Peak 1000.

[dense elbow]

Do i need to rebuild shaders cache when updating the mod?

[thin fjord]

yes

[dense dew]

that's monitor's model

[dense elbow]

[dense dew]

When I change my monitor mode to HDR Game, the screenshot looks like this.

[shut compass]

Is he the one who has to delete? Pleas

[glacial plank]

just rebuit my shaders and now this drops 😅

just out of curiousity, what changed about the tonemapper? :o

[distant oar]

Yes

[glacial plank]

also, what values does the RCAS filter represent between 0 and 100? is it just 0 - 1000 in the original filter?

Prince, when's the new preset dropping 😸

[shut compass]

thx 🙂

[distant oar]

Your monitor settings will not have any effect on the screenshot

[dense dew]

So I did it right,I think

Thanks alot my friend

[knotty cypress]

@dense knot the rcas slider in alien isolation didn’t go from 0-1. Check addon.cpp to see how it’s parsed

[distant oar]

There probably wont be any need to change the settings in my preset for the new verison. It should still look like the screenshots. But I will post a new one if I find new settings that look better

[shut compass]

quick question your game is vanilla do you just use renoDX?

[distant oar]

For visuals: I only use RenoDx + Liliums HDR CAS (+ shaderToggler to disable the sharpening but that doesnt seem to be needed anymore)

I also use SpecialK but that is not effecting HDR

• Lens Distortion Removal Mod

[shut compass]

Oh okay! I have to check out Liliums, thanks!!

[distant oar]

Liliums RCAS just got implemented in the new RenoDx Version. Its probably better to use that, I just didnt have any time to try it out yet

[rustic bridge]

lol i've just downloaded 3.6.1 today

[shut compass]

Okay, I normally have the latest version since I installed it today or not 🥲

3.7.0 I hadn't seen x)

[distant oar]

This is the latest version: #1347155473266114580 message

[dense knot]

V3.7.0 hotfix

Changelog:

• Minor tonemapper adjustments
• Add RCAS sharpness slider (Courtesy of Lilium & Musa) <-- Fixed slider
• Add Filmic preset

[shut compass]

I'll try it then ^^ thanks

[distant oar]

Nvm

[rustic bridge]

i can't use it, it crashes

[dense knot]

Does the old 3.7.0 crash for you?

[rustic bridge]

both

[dense knot]

What's your GPU?

[rustic bridge]

17:30:23:344 [ 5744] | ERROR | [RenoDX MH Wilds] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Failed to replace pipeline)

9070

[dense knot]

Ah makes sense

Do you have the water square bug?

[rustic bridge]

i don't know to speak truth

i haven't played much lately

oh i'm dumb

[dense knot]

I think you would've noticed if it was

[rustic bridge]

hdr is off

[dense knot]

Wouldn't cause crashing, it's from the mod

Just a sec

[shut compass]

😅

[rustic bridge]

17:30:23:025 [ 3148] | WARN | [RenoDX MH Wilds] GetPeakNits(Not HDR)

crossing fingers

nah still crashing 😢

[dense knot]

Can you send another log

[dense knot]

@rustic bridge

[shut compass]

is this a fix only for Amu?

[dense knot]

For AMD GPUs

[shut compass]

okay thx !

[rustic bridge]

ty trying it

unfortunately the the game is stuck, tried 3 times in a row

it doesn't crash, it's just stuck at launch

[dense knot]

Try these pls

[shut compass]

Nice with your preset, I have to see in the other bioms :p

[dense knot]

If they don't work, I'll just revert the AMD water fix

[rustic bridge]

both crashed

i put back 3.6.1 and it's working

[dense knot]

V3.7.0 hotfix

Changelog:

• Minor tonemapper adjustments
• Add RCAS sharpness slider (Courtesy of Lilium & Musa) <-- Fixed slider
• Add Filmic preset

[rustic bridge]

if that can help you

[dense knot]

Here ya go, this should work

[rustic bridge]

fingers crossed

[rustic bridge]

it's working ty

[ancient ibex]

new hotfix is compiling shaders much faster, other 3.7.0 version was taking a long time. rtx 4090

[dense knot]

Probably cause I started uploading Release builds (Used to be debug)

[glacial plank]

dusk is so cool looking, I wish the sky had better textures lol

[ancient ibex]

loving the sharpness slider. slider 0:

slider 30

really helps detail in~~ armor~~ shield, tent texture, flag, wood post at the tent, etc

[rustic bridge]

pre hud rcas is gold!

now i can replace the ingame cas

[rustic bridge]

don't forget to disable the forced sharpening via shader toggler

[merry tartan]

if rcas is similar to regular cas, a value of 0 is still sharpening the game, so if using FSR it might be better to not use the slider in reno and instead use the slider in-game

[coral notch]

fixed exposure auto disables it, correct?

[rustic bridge]

some people said the lilium implementation is hdr compliant

[rustic bridge]

yes i can confirm, my toggle does nothing with fixed exposure

[merry tartan]

it is, but stacking sharpening shaders is generally a bad idea

but...I guess I should see if rcas works the same

[rustic bridge]

i can do the test

i have amd card

[merry tartan]

idk how we'd test this. And I checked the code for the rcas implementation for renodx here and it does in fact fully disable when set to 0

which probably means that's how it works in lilium's reshade shader

so idk what the test would be 🤔

[rustic bridge]

max ingame cas vs max rcas reno

ingame cas has less ringing

[merry tartan]

probably doesn't go as high then

[rustic bridge]

i think lilium rcas can be cleaner

I used to check a box to reduce the haloing

[merry tartan]

to be clear, the rcas in reno is lilium's rcas

[rustic bridge]

yes i'm trying to help

[merry tartan]

oh I see ritsu already said that, nvm lmao

[rustic bridge]

i fined tune the lilium rcas when i used it

it was really clean

[merry tartan]

idk what mode it's working in here

[dense knot]

Reno RCAS is applied pre tonemapping which might cause issues

[rustic bridge]

even the perf cost was really good

150ms

[merry tartan]

I think a decimal might be missing 😅

[rustic bridge]

0.150*

[merry tartan]

lol

[glacial plank]

since Reno has RCAS now, does this mean we can disable some reshade addons like effect runtime sync and generic depth, or they are still needed? just saw somewhere that disabling them can give some performance too, although I can't imagine it's more than like 1% lol

[merry tartan]

you could yeah, but it shouldn't make much difference

so...the shader toggler thing still works for you guys?

[glacial plank]

I think people mentioned that it works in vanilla but doesn't work in fixed

[merry tartan]

I reenabled it and it's completely breaking visuals lol

[rustic bridge]

reshade rcas vs reno rcas

both lilium and maxed out

the reshade is somehow cleaner

with the checkbox on

[night dirge]

@dense knot did you enable the noise removal?

[stiff sundial]

I am still confused with this, how do i know dlss sharpening is disabled when using this or how do i know if its working even

[rustic bridge]

press the dot key if you use azerty

[merry tartan]

looked at the code, it's disabled

[rustic bridge]

is it in gamma mode?

gamma with noise ticked is really good

[night dirge]

It's in a new mode that I didn't release yet

[waxen rose]

The reshade log is using this goes up to gigabytes after extended play, any way to disable this?

[dense knot]

I thought that was for film grain and such

[night dirge]

it's basically good to always enable it

[dense knot]

Btw I'm applying it on untonemapped image, would that cause issues?

[night dirge]

helps with frequency detail

[night dirge]

normalising to 10000 nits is probably enough

[dense knot]

#define SHARPENING_NORMALIZATION_POINT 10000 ?

[night dirge]

what does Musa set it too?

[dense knot]

125

[night dirge]

yeah that's for 10000 nits in scRGB

depends what nits 1.0 is

[dense knot]

It's untonemapped so linear bt709

[night dirge]

anyways I just realized an improvement for rcas

[night dirge]

What white point or w/e do you use to encode to PQ?

[dense knot]

100.f that gets scaled based on paper white

100.f * pw / 203.f

[night dirge]

So 100 should be OK

[dense knot]

V3.7.1

Changelog:

• Enable RCAS noise removal

[meager tendon]

No reason to delete the shader cache for this right

[dense knot]

🤷‍♀️

[meager tendon]

fair lol

ill do it anyway to be safe

[night dirge]

@dense knot I hope your using the encoding for the sharpen amount parameter:
Sharpness = exp2(-(1.f - SHARPEN_AMOUNT));

[shut violet]

it's working from cache

[night dirge]

this scales an input of 0-1 to 0.5-1

[dense knot]

Yes, Musa told me

[night dirge]

ok

[rustic bridge]

new version already 😮

i can't keep up

[lunar ibex]

omg Lilium Reshade is here

[lucid ermine]

I just wanna say thank you everyone involved in this. My games finally looking pleasing to the eye. It was almost looking like a vomit in default HDR.

[night dirge]

who would have thought 🙂
||I'm everywhere 👀||

[lunar ibex]

could i enquire to someone how the new sharpening tool works

do i need another mod to disable ingame sharpening...?

[merry tartan]

hm, base tonemapping changes have made the filmic preset darker than it's supposed to be, not sure I'd recommend it right now.

[stiff sundial]

same question

[glacial plank]

pretty sure you can just disable it in the config.ini by tweaking setting like this one

[wintry shell]

that doesn't do anything

the sharpening is part of local exposure and can't be disabled on the vanilla game

i think the renodx mod already disables sharpening however.

[glacial plank]

hm, interesting

[toxic tendon]

#1347155473266114580 message supposedly

[glacial plank]

the fixed exposure does from what people discussed earlier it seems yeah, while vanilla still has it

[merry tartan]

has to do with them sampling bloom exposure or something

I posted a shadertoggler config that bypasses that, but for me anyway, it's broken

seems to work for others though

[wintry shell]

The shadertoggler disables a local exposure shader, i'd be surprised if it doesn't cause issues.

[merry tartan]

yeah probably

[tender frost]

Soo, if I want to use vanilla exposure then what? should I use 0 sharpen in RenoDX in order not to stack 2 different sharpeners?

I am using new reno tonemapper with vanilla exposure type, no postprocessing disabled right now

[merry tartan]

with vanilla exposure I'd say the game is plenty sharp

[tender frost]

too sharp even 😄

[merry tartan]

it's preference though

[tender frost]

fixed exposure tends to be too dark for me.. If I bump up exposure levels to compensate, then it will become too bright in highly illuminated areas...

I am just tired to tune it for each scene/area all the time

vanilla tracks better for me...

[glacial plank]

try some of the settings people proposed for fixed

maybe you'll like it more

fixed looks 900 times better imo

[merry tartan]

I think settings need to be reworked a bit with the new build 😩

idk I need to do a proper comparison

[glacial plank]

they seemed mostly fine but maybe some minor exposure/contrast changes are good?

[merry tartan]

okay I'm not insane

latest build https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867322545812406291/1352006086915260557/Monster_Hunter_Wilds_2025-03-19_154917.png?ex=67dc714a&is=67db1fca&hm=eb308013113caaa55689950c5f8b0c1cda0082329a068c2bde1b3e4de40a0d2c&

my settings on previous build https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867322545812406291/1352006874110890185/Monster_Hunter_Wilds_2025-03-19_155227.png?ex=67dc7205&is=67db2085&hm=6628d6a61d6191e5d2b28f66bbc2401dc13c90e004f4d829ee40a697496dc7a6&

@dense knot Look at those. Let me see if I can tune it to look like it's supposed to again.

idk why I took these without the analysis shader

[glacial plank]

would you put me on a tribunal if I said latest build on that screenshot looks better even if settings are messed up 😸

[merry tartan]

lol, in some scenes it might, in other scenes it's way too dark

[glacial plank]

I like deeper shadows so much

yea, that I can relate to for sure

[merry tartan]

some of the shading looks really weird here in general...

...

When updating to the latest build again the problem is gone

I guess it's a false alarm and something simply broke on my end

[meager tendon]

Idk what changed but the new update significantly improved my vanilla preset

[toxic tendon]

mine is also really dark on the fixed exposure with the update, esp. in the oilwell basin at base camp during firespring

[tender frost]

glad to hear consistency of your experience 🤣

[merry tartan]

I'd like to encourage people to delete their reshade.ini file if they see weirdness 😅 (or to delete all renodx related settings from it)

though that problem may be unique to me using test builds

[tender frost]

Personally I click the preset buttons again in the UI to reset everything first after I install a new version and dial in my settings on top of it

[meager tendon]

Trying to put together screenshots with my preset and keep having to go back and redo them cause I end up making tiny adjustments 😭

[wide moon]

For me there is an luminance difference between the v3.7.1 Filmic Preset and PrineOfBelAir's setting which I configured with v3.6.0, but all sliders are identical in the GUI.
In the .ini file I can see one difference:
ColorGradeLUTOutputStrength=50 in the filmic preset configured in v3.7.1 and ColorGradeLUTOutputStrength=100 with the configuration from v3.6.0.

Could you add that as an slider to the GUI?

[meager tendon]

Isnt that just the Color LUT Strength slider?

Make sure you're on advanced settings mode

[wide moon]

That's a new option appeared after 3.7.0, the color slider key is ColorGradeLUTColorStrength

[meager tendon]

I see

[glacial plank]

seeing how original MHW looks on youtube videos

makes me want to cry

Idk what devs were cooking

but it definitely came out both raw and overcooked at the same time somehow

[dense knot]

No, that's the Color LUT Strength slider

Ah wait mb

ColorGradeLUTOutputStrength isn't used anymore

[meager tendon]

my god this area looks so good in fixed exposure

oh no whys it not previewing

[dense knot]

Copy it as PNG from skiv

[orchid drum]

What's your preset ? Looks great indeed

[meager tendon]

This is actually just the filmic preset

Ive been working on a vanilla exposure preset but areas like this make me reconsider my choices

[orchid drum]

Filmic preset indeed looks the best for every area except for the desert in plenty

[glacial plank]

to be fair desert in plenty is probably THE ONLY area that looks good in vanilla 😅

[wide moon]

Then I have no clue why the luminance is slighty different between the 2 presets that have identical values otherwise :/

[glacial plank]

tbh when we had that option before I preferred the 100 there anyway, so that'a a W for me if it works in the ini now

[wide moon]

Ooooh, I totally missed that ToneMapScaling is different too...

Might be worth exposing it as a setting or at least forcing it to a fixed value instead of keeping it in the config. It’s kinda weird that an old preset ends up looking different in the new version, compared to a second preset when using the exact same values in the GUI. That really shouldn’t be happening.

[alpine tree]

Oh, did something replace it or is it just gone?

[dense knot]

Which presets? 1 and 2?

Just gone

[wide moon]

No, 2 & 3. Preset 2 is the Filmic Preset and Preset 3 is my old config from 3.6.0, but matches the new Filmic preset for the GUI sliders as it was just PrineOfBelAir config.

[alpine tree]

So with it gone, will it change visuals a lot? Like I had my slider at 50

[wide moon]

The main issue I have with the difference is that you get different visuals wheter you pressed "reset all" on a config or not, even with the exact same sliders and is definitely not obvious to users

[dense knot]

Only hidden setting is FxLUTScaling, everything else is unused or exposed

[dense knot]

Not sure what you mean

It's been removed since 3.0 release, I think

[alpine tree]

Oh so you don't mean color LUT strength slider right under exposure strength

[dense knot]

No

[alpine tree]

Ah my bad then sorry

[zinc sapphire]

that's what I do every time as well

[meager tendon]

My slightly tuned vanilla exposure preset with vanilla+ and Filmic comparisons

Tried to find a good middle ground between the things I liked with the vanilla+ and filmic/fixed exposure presets

[tawdry horizon]

Is the last shot in the set of 3 filmic? I like that one.

[meager tendon]

mhm

1st of each set is my preset 2nd is vanilla+ 3rd is filmic

[tawdry horizon]

Would you mind sharing what your sliders look like? I've been messing around with them for over an hour now and can't figure out what I like

[meager tendon]

If you're asking for the filmic one thats just the default filmic preset

otherwise here's the preset not much is changed really the new update made it a lot easier for me to tune

[glacial plank]

your vanilla is really good 👍

[meager tendon]

UI brightness is just preference

Another set

[distant oar]

Im gonna try out the new version now. I wonder how big the difference will be

[distant oar]

What does FxLUTScaling do?

[orchid drum]

peak brightness should be at your monitor max nits output by default

Or isn't it ?

[orchid drum]

Wyveria looks really great with your preset! (2) I still like the desaturated look of the filmic one tho (1)

[modest ravine]

failed to launch, ill try the new versions youved shared today also.

[orchid drum]

(1) and (2)

[distant oar]

New Preset for the newest RenoDx Version. This one has more of a cinemtaic look and blowout should also be improved.

(Adjust RCAS to preference. I used lilium HDR Cas for these screenshots because Im still figuring out what RCAS value to use )

[brave lantern]

Many adjustments needed when updating from V3.6.1? Or did the colors mostly stay the same just more options for tweaking?