✅RenoDX: MH Wilds

[pine slate]

same issue

i know there is a rendering "issue" with the game in general that digital foundry talked about where the black point is lower on characters than in the environment. I think the intent is to make the characters pop more but it also leads to hdr looking worse than it could. I also have no idea what the limitations of renoDX are so im not sure if its fixable or not, that is assuming im correct about the black point thing.

[thin fjord]

there are a million issues with hdr

will have to wait for Ritsu to see this I wouldn't know

[pine slate]

sounds good, thanks

[distant oar]

That is likely not the problem. The game can reach true blacks in the environment. The areas you showed have a lot of light and fog that make that part of the image brighter. I would recommend the base camp in that ice area at night and lush season if you want to test how dark your preset can get.

[rustic bridge]

omg new version

why is this bigger? 1.3MB

[trim tangle]

Debug, perhaps?

[rustic bridge]

that would make sense

an interesting analysishttps://youtu.be/ZmHLYZro1iY?si=7AmlApFB-h8t5HBt

[trim tangle]

He gets Olivia completely wrong, which makes me question his analysis a bit

Seems highly subjective, overall

I actually can't find a flaw in any of the character designs, personally

[rustic bridge]

i'm no designer so i can't really judge his judgement 😛

[zinc sapphire]

lol this guy is a complete fraud

[rustic bridge]

oh really lol

[trim tangle]

Eh, how so?

I do find his delivery to be rather stilted and all over the place.

He stinks of being an amateur.

He's like... a worse Pitch Meeting from Screenrant, lol.

[distant oar]

Typical „Game Dev looks at xyz“ video lol

[trim tangle]

There are competent game devs out there ~ but this guy doesn't pass even a surface-level check of knowing what he's rambling about

Even Casey Muratori is far superior in just casual rambling, lmao

[distant oar]

Yeah, there are also good game dev analysis videos out there. But I feel like there are more and more people who open a demo UE5 Project and call themselves game devs to farm views

[rustic bridge]

can't blame them, it's easy PR for their studios

[merry tartan]

Yeah that guy is a notorious fraud

[rustic bridge]

same as TV reviewers, it's the wild in youtube

i'm really cautious now

[merry tartan]

Sometimes you don’t know what you’re watching until you’ve wasted a good chunk of time 😩

[rustic bridge]

well at least for TVs there are only 3 brands to pick

lg, sony or samsung

[glacial plank]

tried plugging dualsense to the pc directly through a wire and suddenly there's haptic feedback lol

the implementation seems so good too, funny I found this after 80 hrs

[potent fox]

that's almost always the case for proper haptic support on dualsense with PC, only works wired

[zinc sapphire]

playing since launch like that

it even has adaptive triggers on map zoom

[rocky bear]

Hdtvtest is the best, sometimes RTINGS does great reviews too, expecially written ones on their website

[zinc sapphire]

time to try the new version! 👀

Vanilla+/Filmic

Vanilla+ is great, good job Jon/Ritsu!

[merry tartan]

I don't think that spot is ever gonna work well with fixed exposure

[zinc sapphire]

Yeah 🐸

[merry tartan]

but yeah, the new method is huge for vanilla exposure in particular

the upgrade to Suja is massive

it's a properly faithful vanilla hdr if all sliders are at 50

[ebon tide]

wtf is filmic bro there is no specular highlight detail

[merry tartan]

it's scene dependent cause fixed exposure

sometimes there's more than vanilla

[zinc sapphire]

yeah suja looks great

long way from your reshade to this

[merry tartan]

was always a stop gap lol

[zinc sapphire]

will we fix this at some point?

is it fixable? unsure if renodx related even

[merry tartan]

not reno related

game is just that ugly

still there in sdr

[zinc sapphire]

some angles are wild...

[zinc sapphire]

ah ok!

also not RT related

[merry tartan]

I think their AO is just badly tuned for the area

though I haven't checked if the problem goes away without ao

idk if there's even a toggle in game actually

[zinc sapphire]

AO OFF:

[merry tartan]

lol, well

idk what it is then

...maybe I should double check that it's still a problem if reno isn't installed

[zinc sapphire]

OH

OHHHH

JON

Highest textures from the DLC 🐸

much better

[merry tartan]

....

why would that fix it

wtf

[merry tartan]

WHY DOES THIS GAME LAUNCH ON MY SECOND SCREEN RANDOMLY

still a pretty big problem with highest textures

and reno doesn't cause it for sure

[glacial plank]

yea the game is just fucked up

I think it would be impossible to fix everything and make a preset look good everywhere in all conditions and provide the best experience

so you'd have to choose what to sacrifice and what to gain

there's a reason there's a huge orange foggy filter everywhere in the base game

😸

[zinc sapphire]

I tried playing with vram budget

sadly it actually uses nearly 16GB and so perf tanks lol

with all apps closed

single monitor

[glacial plank]

yeah they said recommended 16GB but it tanks way too much

[zinc sapphire]

this is me spinning the camera

[glacial plank]

and apparently it also causes some issues with texture loading

[outer lodge]

how much mem does your gpu have

[merry tartan]

the game likes its volumetric lighting, which I don't think looks bad. I think that's the issue loads of people have with the game though and they should probably consider disabling volumetrics with a mod.

[zinc sapphire]

16

[glacial plank]

and some textures just don't appear

[zinc sapphire]

I hope they can fix there vram issue and the dlc becomes usable at some point

[glacial plank]

you mean volumetric fog or something else entirely?

[merry tartan]

yeah fog

[glacial plank]

yea I've seen people say the game looks bad without it

it kind of covers some ugly stuff

and I think it does look great in some scenarios for sure

although... one thing I haven't tested is that someone mad a mod to adjust the values of it

and apparently it makes it better but I haven't tried it

[merry tartan]

a lot of people just don't like that inherent contrast reduction of using a technique like that

[glacial plank]

maybe it could even improve hdr

yeah I hate it too

everything becomes kind of gray-ish

I feel like the main benefit of HDR is that true contrast you're getting

but even then this game black level is so fucked up

I remember tinkering with lilium shaders to see what is going on

[merry tartan]

I mostly like the added detail from increased bit depth

[glacial plank]

and there's like tiny color segments that go way below black level lol

yeah I feel you, color accuracy is extremely cool too

[merry tartan]

if hdr was just about contrast for me, rtx hdr would be the way lol

[glacial plank]

unfortuantley rtx hdr looks awful in this game too

well not necessarily awful but it doesn't look great

everything is very dark and colorless

because it is in the vanilla

😆

rompolo svamp is just awful in rtx hdr

like between these two I think I'd usually choose the second one even if the colors and lighting are not 100% correct, but it brings so much contrast and difference in lighting and exposure so it feels more pleasant to look at

[zinc sapphire]

Filmic/Vanilla+

they both look bad here

[glacial plank]

^ this area is pretty weird in terms of colors too unfortunately

especially at night I think

[merry tartan]

hmmm I seem to recall old presets working better there

[zinc sapphire]

what is going on with the colors of my weapon?

[merry tartan]

it's still possible to get similar results as the old build

[glacial plank]

judging by the fire color it could be that color accuracy problem coming into play

[zinc sapphire]

vanilla+

[merry tartan]

we've learned that the game uses some r11g10b10 buffers, which will bias per channel stuff towards red

[zinc sapphire]

something is wrong lol

the uber attack from arkveld

[merry tartan]

try luminance scaling

with blowout

ritsu is currently working on another solution

[merry tartan]

this hurts my eyes lmao

[zinc sapphire]

yeah

don't think I messed with any sliders

besides removing vignette

[tender frost]

it is a big one angry arkveld 🙂

artistically conveys its anger to the player 🙂

[zinc sapphire]

gonna play with filmic for a bit

[rich finch]

damn this game texture is so broken.... So the grass texture on high is with that ugly shadow

[rocky bear]

What.......

[zinc sapphire]

maybe too dark

filmic on some monsters

[rustic bridge]

delirium lol

[rich finch]

Thanks to Jon, I really enjoy the visual under fixed exposure at most place, not perfect but better than original

[rich finch]

Yeah it's sometimes too dark, feeling like no light on the monster

[zinc sapphire]

I will restart the game, feels like vanilla+ looked better at the start lol

[trim tangle]

Contrast it too high? 🤔

[rich finch]

Can reno disable lens distortion? Heard that pp is conflicting with latest build

[zinc sapphire]

conflicting in what way?

you can try this... only disables lens distortion, does not break roars etc

but what is conflicting?

[rich finch]

Yeah I have that one, just don't know what's conflicting

[zinc sapphire]

mmmh interesting

[rich finch]

I never touch the exposure settings in pp

So reno fully controls the exposure

[rustic bridge]

i'm using this onehttps://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/245

[zinc sapphire]

this break monster roars

the one I posted is PP mod with everything yanked out but lens distortion

[rich finch]

Oh it breaks roars? In which way?

[zinc sapphire]

the effect is missing

like around the screen the "impact" of the roar

no idea how to describe it

they "work", but the screen doesn't react as it should

[rich finch]

I know, kinda like motion and haptic on the screen

Will try the pp mod you shared, thanks!

[thin fjord]

thunder elemental effects, no? and the red line is critical attack no?

[zinc sapphire]

this is a para weapon

it used to look different

and see arkveld's attack

that color doesn't look correct

unless it always looked wrong before and now looks correct

[merry tartan]

dang, I didn't test it out down there

[zinc sapphire]

which I doubt 🐸

[merry tartan]

yeah that's pretty dark. New tonemapper has proved challenging with fixed exposure

[zinc sapphire]

Vanilla+

the fire looks wrong

Filmic better fire

my para weapon also looks more correct in filmic

[rich finch]

Feeling vanilla plus is oversaturated now, especially for red

[zinc sapphire]

Filmic/Vanilla+

[zinc sapphire]

I agree!

is the filmic screenshot broken?

if so sorry 🐸

[rich finch]

I am with fixed exposure now. my way to the over darkness is increase exposure amount to 65, and contrast to about 55 to avoid over contrasting image. Most areas look similar to vanilla plus, but some monster and scenes are just still darker, but not much details missed overall

Love the lights bloom and glow in camp compared to vanilla plus

[trim tangle]

Yeah, it's broken

[rich finch]

Yeah it's broken

[zinc sapphire]

will try, thanks

[thin fjord]

yeah I am guessing this is all related to the bright details getting blown out that Jon mentioned

I am still in 2.2 with Prince's preset

[rich finch]

In the end Capcom is the one who should really fix things up

The update is just a joke, kingdom 2 had over 1000+ fix with such a solid visual experience, and we just have several fix for good bugs so far...

[zinc sapphire]

Vanilla+/Filmic/Filmic(exposure 65, contrast 55)

[glacial plank]

too busy swimming in cash from 8 mil sales 🐳

[zinc sapphire]

Filmic is bad sorry @merry tartan :(

but can be tweaked

[glacial plank]

I don't think it's that filmic is bad

[zinc sapphire]

vanilla+ is best, but reds are incorrect

[glacial plank]

it's just that something is wrong with colors

[zinc sapphire]

well the laser loses a lot of detail

vanilla+ has much more details

vanilla+ just needs to not look so orange 🟠

what slider can I move for that?

[merry tartan]

I didn't get to spend as much time on it, sorry 😦

[zinc sapphire]

Vanilla+/Filmic/Filmic(exposure 65, contrast 55)

[merry tartan]

tweaked around a few areas and made assumptions based on previous behavior, which apparently wasn't very accurate

[zinc sapphire]

don't be! just feedback

vanilla+ is awesome, just the reds need to be not as orange and I think we have a winner

[thin fjord]

Don't hold your breath

[merry tartan]

both have loads of downsides currently

[zinc sapphire]

fair yeah

what should I move to adjust the "orange"?

I have no clue how these sliders all work

[merry tartan]

ultimately the issue is per channel + contrast

[glacial plank]

nothing I adjusted worked so I assume it's just broken atm

[merry tartan]

a preset probably needs to be built around luminance scaling

but per channel + contrast is what gives it saturation

trying to replicate that with the slider lands you in a similar situation

[zinc sapphire]

black and white mode for godzilla vibes

(vanilla+ with 0 saturation)

[merry tartan]

like sometimes vanilla is just...a blob of color

[zinc sapphire]

yeah that looks bad I agree

[merry tartan]

the blowout the game was designed around is hard to replicate

[zinc sapphire]

that is the "orange" I'm talking about

[merry tartan]

new fixed exposure is very easy to crush highlights with

but it's very dim if you don't up exposure :/

so it might just be a bad fit for the new tonemapper

may end up being best to use reinhard/dawson for fixed exposure

[distant oar]

I tried to make a preset similar to the filmic one yesterday. I will share that when im home in a few hours. You can definitely make it work

The highlights should also probably be left at 50 when using the new tonemapper + fixed exposure

[merry tartan]

don't try too hard to make it all work, cause ritsu is working on something new

banding issue will likely get fixed

same with bias towards red

[distant oar]

That sounds good!!

[merry tartan]

part of why this game was a struggle was almost all of the tools we rely on were gimped/broken in some way with the game

less of an issue now

[sturdy marten]

as someone not too knowledgeable on these things I just wanted to say it's kinda fun being along for the ride and seeing all the improvements and regressions. While I certainly can see that some stuff is off, every version of this mod has been better than the official stuff we got, so thanks for that and don't be too hard on yourselves!

[merry tartan]

ritsu was able to get a pix capture of the game so he can get far more detail about what's going on

[distant oar]

people still need to keep the difference between fixed and vanilla exposure in mind. There will always be some areas that will produce better screenshots with vanilla exposure because it tends to just expose everything.

[glacial plank]

this was still the best visual quality of the game I had I think compared to all others presets

but idk if it's achievable in newer versions or if I'll like it again if I see it xd

[zinc sapphire]

aweosme

[distant oar]

The one I made yesterday is similar to this one

[glacial plank]

oooh, I'm excited for it then, but I'll have to wait until colors are hopefully fixed

[distant oar]

These screenshots used that preset: #1347155473266114580 message

[glacial plank]

I love the cave one

but in the desert it seems a little dim maybe..

[zinc sapphire]

btw I think vanilla+ issues are a bit "fixed" when switching to "Pre Grade"
edit: it looks worse, but it is no longer as orange and the flash flys look better 🐸

[distant oar]

But I might need to tune it more. This was made at about 3:00 AM. So my brain might have turned off while making it

[glacial plank]

yea I feel you, I'm gonna try the fog reduction settings, I hope it could alleviate the dimness a bit too

since I think it is caused by volumetrics

[distant oar]

Yea, thats what im worried about. I probably decreased the exposure too much

[glacial plank]

the thing is, I think the later versions do have their exposure set up differently

like that old preset felt nicely exposed, colorful and contrasty

later there were more detail maybe? but the exposure felt dimmer

but it's hard to say without actually comparing it 1:1 which is not easily achievable..

[distant oar]

You need to be a bit more careful when adding exposure with the new tonemapper (Could also be wrong, need to test more). But it does seem to get a more Balanced/good looking image without adding too much contrast. Thats what I really like about it

[frosty osprey]

fellas, I tried the latest build which is 3.0 . I tried using the RenoDX preset and I experienced flashing while fighting Nerscylla and Gore Magala. And I tried to switch back to vanilla+ preset with my custom tweak and the screen does not flashing anymore.

Has anyone experienced this too ? I think it only happened with renodx preset

[distant oar]

Are you using mods?

[frosty osprey]

yes, only with the Disable Post Processing mod

[distant oar]

Dont turn off exposure stuff in the mod

That should probably fix it

Just use the fixed exposure mode in renoDx if you dont want vanilla local exposure

[frosty osprey]

ok I will give it a try again and test it out

[rustic bridge]

the new vanilla+ looks good

[glacial plank]

the volumetric fog adjustments might actually be the key to fight the dimness

[rustic bridge]

i've adjusted the peak brightness and game brightness to fit my monitor

[glacial plank]

another comparison of volumetric fog adjustments, keeps it in the distance while making closer objects not dim, gotta try in more areas though

holy moly, this is an insane change, not sure if these exact settings are the best though, I kinda like some fog

[glacial plank]

some more comparisons with volumetric fog settings tweaked

while I think fog definitely adds special feeling especially to light sources, but it could be something to look into for a more crisp look

[zinc sapphire]

try to capture some fire effects from monsters

rathalos/gravios

[glacial plank]

also my preset was kinda including the fog to try and get a better visual quality so I need to try it with a different preset

[thin fjord]

I like the fog, the ambiance doesn't work

[glacial plank]

yeah the atmosphere is completely different at least initially

maybe with some tweaks you could preserve the original ambience while keeping the dimness at bay

[glacial plank]

doesn't seem to affect fire particles suprisingly

[glacial plank]

also I'd say in some cases it preserves the ambience while providing clarity, so that's interesting

[white wyvern]

You guys on v3 RC0? Or is there another one after that?

[rustic bridge]

so far i'm really in love with this hdr

no clipping, i see all details

v3 rc0 for me

from the link pinned

[zinc sapphire]

yeah

[white wyvern]

They look brilliant. Are you on Filmic or Vanilla+ or you own setup?

[merry tartan]

doesn't seem to lose much ambiance, looks pretty nice with the fog removed. The volumetric lighting does a lot of the lifting it seems

[white wyvern]

I have been playing the game for a change. lol.

[rustic bridge]

vanilla+ with adjusted brightness to fit my monitor

[white wyvern]

Nice.

[rustic bridge]

my monitor is 600nits, i've streched 100 extra nits for more pop 😄
if i go too much higher it will clip in clouds for instance

[merry tartan]

blowout might be the only thing vanilla+ really needs

I didn't mess with that one much

but per channel is supposed to do blowout by itself mostly 😩

[rustic bridge]

yes i've increased blowout for less saturation

[brave lantern]

In the post history for this mod there is dialouge between the creator of this mod and the PP mod discussing how this mod doesn't break roars and they do work with their implementation of lens distortion removal.

The dialog between the devs is either in the post history of that mod posted above here or on the PP mod post history don't remember which.

TLDR: Snakey's mod doesn't break monster roars.

[zinc sapphire]

either way, the one I posted, and pp of course, have the advantage in that toggling it off/on is very easy

if you want to compare before/after

[glacial plank]

seems like a decent compromise, also it's kinda crazy how much fog is there lol

[brave lantern]

Are you using the PP mod to remove fog?

[glacial plank]

no, it's this one
https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/455?tab=posts

it allows you to tweak the fog settings

[brave lantern]

Ok cool thanks

[frosty osprey]

pre-grade makes the screen flashing . post grade is fine. tested it out . it only happened on pre-grade

[merry tartan]

I wish I knew why some still have screen flashing

I haven't seen it since the fix

[zinc sapphire]

are they on AMD?

[merry tartan]

hmmmm

[frosty osprey]

im on nvidia

[merry tartan]

well then

[rustic bridge]

hunting during cloudy weather

[frosty osprey]

ermmm this flashing

[merry tartan]

hm, maybe a greatsword specific thing

@dense knot

[dense knot]

Using ref mod?

[frosty osprey]

yes

[dense knot]

disabling post processes or adjusting exposure stuff might cause issues with renodx

[frosty osprey]

i see . i think that might be the reason .

[rustic bridge]

spoiler alert endgame monster

[timid quail]

do yall play with Bloom on or off?

[zinc sapphire]

on

[rustic bridge]

bloom on too

[thin fjord]

can you just lower it a bit? how much can you tweak it?

[distant oar]

Why not share these as HDR pngs?

New REFramework nightly btw

[ebon tide]

no clue either

what are we supposed to look at

sdr shit

"looks how good my sdr is"

[rustic bridge]

because i capture them as sdr

it's more convenient to store and share them

[sage coral]

Hello guys, this hdr fix is awesome even on my shitty hdr 400 display.
But I have a problem. My game becomes washed out with renodx after playing for a while.
Sometimes it's 10 min, sometimes it's 30 min.
My setup is special k + reshade as plugin, load oreder is early.
I am also using reframework and dlss to fsr, but not loading them through sk.
Previously, I didn't encounter this issue while using reshade without special k.
So I suspect it may be related to sk's settings?
I've tried change loading order of reshade to to lazy. However, the add-on cannot be loaded then, as in the picture.
Any ideas?

[thin fjord]

what reshade version are you using?

[sage coral]

6.4.1 with full addon support

[thin fjord]

remove just the dlss to fsr and try again

load reshade as early

[rustic bridge]

am i wrong sharing my screenshots?

if this is wrong so i'm not posting anymore

[ebon tide]

no bruh

share hdr screenshots

!

[glacial plank]

looks promising

[distant oar]

I mean these are nice screenshots. So it would be even better to see how your preset looks in HDR

[ebon tide]

this is an hdr mod

how are we supposed to see it

if you share SDR stuff

[rustic bridge]

ok

it would mean extra space

i use F12 for steam capture

[ebon tide]

do you use special K ?

in wilds

[rustic bridge]

no sk

[ebon tide]

damn

[rustic bridge]

i don't need it anymore

[ebon tide]

would make it easier

i mean it's less of a need issue than conveniance

[rustic bridge]

i try to use less injectors

[glacial plank]

do you know if we only need dinput8.dll? there seems to be a lot of extra in the achive

for the reframework

[rustic bridge]

steam capture is nice to share with friends

[ebon tide]

you can make png hdr screenshots right from sk with very good compression and share them instantly on discord

[rustic bridge]

i see, thing is since REframework can load with reshade, i don't use sk anymore

[ebon tide]

yeah

[rustic bridge]

technically i can still capture hdr png with reshade

but that would mean i store the image 3 times

[ebon tide]

I juse use sk for every game (except competitive)

yeah right

I forgot

you can do that

I mean it's just for the eyecandy

[rustic bridge]

steam is dumb, it stores as jpg for the its gallery and i can enable extra copy as png

and another extra copy aas hdr avif

[low portal]

you only need dinput8.dll

[rustic bridge]

maybe i can share avif here in discord?

[low portal]

the rest of the files are VR related

[ebon tide]

sure

[ebon tide]

at least we can open them of skiv

hdr png is more convenient but like

it's better than "sdr"

[rustic bridge]

i tried avif before but it freezes my game for 1sec

because of the extra processing

[glacial plank]

using reshade for HDR screenshots is pretty cool too it seems

[rustic bridge]

steam hdr avif

[distant oar]

RenoDX 3.0 Filmic Preset vs Custom Preset that also uses Luminance Scaling. I tried to fix the blowout Problem and adjusted some other things to my preference. Blowout seems to work good. But maybe I need to turn the saturation down a bit more

[rustic bridge]

reshade hdr png

[distant oar]

Do note that this preset will lose some highlight saturation when big parts of the picture reach peak brightness(Sky at daytime for example, but this really depends on the area of the game)

[ebon tide]

bruh this looks great

[sage coral]

it still happened unfortunately

[thin fjord]

upload the full log maybe

[sage coral]

Here they are

[thin fjord]

looks to me like RenoDX loaded

do you have more than one renodx addon by any chance

[sage coral]

you mean other versions?

[thin fjord]

I mean the reshade log you sent shows no errors loading addon

[sage coral]

No I only have this one for wilds

it's weird, I can tell that the addon is working fine, but at some point the game just suddenly became washed out and I need to restart the game to make it work again

[thin fjord]

maybe it's been loaded from somewhere else

[glacial plank]

getting miyazaki vibes from this one, great job 🙏

[stiff sundial]

where i can find the 3.0

[glacial plank]

how do the wounds look on this preset?

[timid quail]

Is there a good guide out there to the philosophy/methodology of calibrating sliders? I’m currently incapable of making my own adjustments lmao

[sage coral]

I used everything.exe to search for .addon64, I think it's looking fine...

[thin fjord]

does the mod work?

when you move the sliders

[sage coral]

yes, but I am not sure if it does after washed out, maybe I should try that

[thin fjord]

is the error still showing?

[sage coral]

yep, but the annoying part is that I have to play the game for 10~30 min to see if it still happened

the log I sent is the last session I played, where the problem has occurred

[rocky bear]

how do you change output lut strenght?

[distant oar]

Output Lut is disabled for this preset because its using the new Tonemapper

Thats why its greyed out

[rocky bear]

ok so having it at 50 but it being disabled doesn't change anything?

[distant oar]

You can switch to deprecated here to see the old settings but this present doesnt use them

[distant oar]

Should look fine. The blowout should work

[distant oar]

#1347155473266114580 message

[rustic bridge]

arkveld

my settings (no oled)

[sage coral]

I think I found the cause of the problem. The HDR setting of sk preset randomly jumped to HDR preset 0. The right one should be HDR10 Native.
But idk why it changed randomly, I did not press the hotkey.
Well maybe I did because I am playing with M&K. And I use F1, F2 to change item shortcut while using shift to sprint.

Or is there anyway to modify the hotkey of these presets so that I don't misclick them?

[rustic bridge]

go to sk discord and ask there

let me find the right channel

[sage coral]

nvm I just figured it out that u can click on those keybind word to configure it

[rustic bridge]

https://discord.com/channels/778539700981071872/778539700981071875

in case you have questions

kaldaien is named "catgpt" there 😛

[zinc sapphire]

I didn't touch the HDR settings in SK once fwiw

[west remnant]

I have a question. In this pic, is the light in the distance too bright and the shadows a bit dark or is that normal? I'm using the renoDX preset

[dense knot]

V3.5.0 RC0 (Thanks to Jon for all the help)

Changelog:

• Rework everything
• Remove most sliders (new defaults)
• Auto calculate pw from peak brightness

[merry tartan]

trust, it's good this time

game looks great with sliders at 50 now

[glacial plank]

rework everything??

[viscid yoke]

“Rework everything”

[glacial plank]

😆

I'm scared

but excited

[merry tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346992022107455519/1350254269579657226/Monster_Hunter_Wilds_2025-03-14_194816.png?ex=67d611c8&is=67d4c048&hm=8466b45f68d5a17b1c010259b67fca56d9bb01a6ebc0974552dfb4da9246328e&

[glacial plank]

holy

[merry tartan]

that's vanilla exposure

[glacial plank]

are the colors fixed too?

[merry tartan]

I think they will be but honestly didn't fight any monsters to test

[glacial plank]

alright I was about to boot anyway time to see

[merry tartan]

the nature of the fix should address it though?

[glacial plank]

@distant oar wake up babe new renodx just dropped 😸
I swear every time you make a preset a new version appears haha

[full mortar]

yeah i literally just used princes preset then this came out haha

thanks for all the hardwork everyone is putting into this with testing etc.

greatly appreciated!

[glacial plank]

so now there's no vanilla or filmic options, just the default right?

[distant oar]

Im ready

[merry tartan]

ultimately what this version does differently is...we fixed the sdr that informs the hdr. By fixing the SDR image to be way less ass, reno's hdr is substantially improved. This means that sliders have much better behavior as well, but it also means that they're less necessary than before.

[full mortar]

so the SK forced Autoexposure setting I have at 1, should I be changing that back?

[glacial plank]

oh yea, the game looks very different already unless I'm tripping

[merry tartan]

there's a chance some may still like what they could do custom with old builds and fixed exposure, but please give the new one a good shot 🙏

[glacial plank]

yea I loved fixed exposure but I guess time to experiment

[distant oar]

btw @merry tartan do you think these settings make sense to improve the luminance blowout? #1347155473266114580 message

[merry tartan]

fixing the sdr image also makes it so the local contrast thing the game runs doesn't sharpen as much

[distant oar]

Trying out the new version now 🙏

[glacial plank]

no LUT options this time around too?

[distant oar]

(Forgot to add link to my previous message)

[merry tartan]

oh yeah I saw these, thought it looked really good

[distant oar]

I guess the new reinhard is just the best

[merry tartan]

didn't try fixing it that way lol

[distant oar]

Ok, thanks for taking a look at it. I just wanted to make sure that I dont counteract the benefits of luminance scaling with my settings. But it does seem to work really good

[merry tartan]

honestly, the last build just wasn't as good as we hoped, not sure you could do something wrong with it

it just works, I'm so happy lol

[distant oar]

Damn that is looking good

Compiling Shaders

[merry tartan]

the local contrast thing can still get a bit crusty sometimes but it still looks fine enough

[distant oar]

What happend to the exposure settings? 👀

[merry tartan]

they're gone for now

[glacial plank]

looks pretty neat even at defaults

[full mortar]

mine for some reason looks too dark or too bright

not sure why

[zinc sapphire]

REWORK EVERYTHING

hype

[full mortar]

i changed the autoexposure in SK back to default and deleted the post process mod and everything with no luck

i was only using that mod for lens distortion

[distant oar]

Is 3.5 using local exposure? and what type of scaling?

[merry tartan]

local exposure yeah. We have it set to luminance which should look best

[glacial plank]

sliders seem to change values by a ton this time around, am I correct?

barely touching anything and getting pretty different results at least in contrast

[merry tartan]

yeah, that's more normal for reno, but because the game normally has a crazy compressed sdr input you had to really crank things with reno sliders

[distant oar]

3.5 does look really good, but will we get fixed exposure back in the future?

[merry tartan]

uncertain, I'm gonna play around and see if it's still useful at all

with the vastly expanded sdr input it may have outlived its usefulness

we increased the contrast of the sdr input by nearly 3x, and adjusted shadows down some more still (not a ton)

[zinc sapphire]

fire is still very orange

default settings

[merry tartan]

what's sdr look like for that?

[full mortar]

I hit the reset all button and don't remember the default settings on preset 1 now lol

[glacial plank]

for what it's worth I think it's one of the best out of the box version

that everyone can just install and have fun with HDR without joining discord or tinkering with settings

[zinc sapphire]

more red

flasy flys very orange

[glacial plank]

I always save screenshot of presets now for that reason 😸

[zinc sapphire]

flash flys should be more yellow

[full mortar]

I reinstalled hoping that would change it back and it didn't >.<

do you know how to get them back?

[glacial plank]

I don't think you can, but if you used someone's preset you can probs find it here again

[full mortar]

i was just using the new 3.5 one

[merry tartan]

hmmmm maybe we need some blowout then

guessing 40 or 50 would be good?

[waxen rose]

Where did you get this mod if you don't mind me asking?

[zinc sapphire]

wounds are BLOOD RED (I don't hate it fwiw)

[glacial plank]

yea wounds look good so far for me too

[zinc sapphire]

I took the PP mod and yanked out all the code that was not relevant for me

[waxen rose]

Thank you lol, just what I needed

[zinc sapphire]

also in the same area but different zone the fire looks different lol

I have no idea why

you would think the fire should look the same no matter

[full mortar]

does anyone mind sharing a pic of the preset settings please?

[zinc sapphire]

my poor cat

[glacial plank]

these don't look too orange for me btw

but maybe it's area dependant?

[glacial plank]

this looks pretty sick ngl

[merry tartan]

new build is just 50 everything, 0 blowout

I will be disappearing for a couple hours, just as a heads up

[zinc sapphire]

the wounds look CRAZY :D

[full mortar]

OH I so am dumb then lol the reset is the preset and I just had different settings saved

shows how much i know how to work this 😭

[glacial plank]

one last question for now, did you guys change anything in terms of sharpening? I feel like something changed in that regard but I'm not 100% sure

[distant oar]

MH Wilds without RenoDx vs MH Wilds with RenoDx Deafaults 💀 The vanilla HDR was so bad

[glacial plank]

it's SO BAD lmao

[zinc sapphire]

I'm BLOOD red lol

(not saying I hate it btw, just that it does not look like vanilla at all)

gonna go to lava area next

[distant oar]

Looking good

[full mortar]

you mess with any settings so far @distant oar or still defaults

[glacial plank]

yeah, I only touched contrast to be 52, looks very good so far

[west remnant]

can someone share the setting of the preset 1 of the new verson?

I accidentally reset mine

[glacial plank]

it's default

[full mortar]

Jon just posted it, it's 50 everything beside blowout which is at 0. So that reset all button is the preset

[glacial plank]

on the desert location fire and wounds seem to look just fine

[full mortar]

i was confused at first too haha

was use to the two preset buttons

[zinc sapphire]

ok the gravios laser has way more "texture" now @merry tartan that is a +!

no longer looks so broken

in motion it looks crazy good

[west remnant]

oh really? When i first install the preset 1 have different value so I though that value was the default

[zinc sapphire]

it looks amazing, time to start OBS 👀

[full mortar]

yeah I thought so too, but doesn't look like it

[zinc sapphire]

the laser's texture is rotating

WOW

let me cut that :D

[waxen rose]

Hmm for me it's a little too dark tbh

Like gore is almost all black

[full mortar]

did you hit the reset all button?

tbf I haven't fought gore with it yet

[zinc sapphire]

@dense knot @merry tartan the previous version had no "texture" on gravios laser, now you can see it all 🔥

[waxen rose]

Mhm

[distant oar]

The screenshots was made with default settings. Im experimenting with the settings atm

[glacial plank]

btw do you guys play with depth of field on or off?

[zinc sapphire]

you all got to fight gravios like right now

[distant oar]

On, I love it 🙏

[glacial plank]

yea I'm playing with it too, it does provide some cimenatic moments for sure

[brave lantern]

LMAO at rework everything.

[merry tartan]

Not explicitly no, it just should behave more reasonably with the sdr tonemapping changes

[distant oar]

@merry tartan What are the LUT settings in 3.5?

Probably both color and output 100

[glacial plank]

their artistic intent is really a hard miss for me xd

also nu udra textures are so low res it's insane, even his fire is low res 😆please capcom

[thin fjord]

Blur the monster

[glacial plank]

I'll delete just in case

[merry tartan]

I don’t think output lut is a thing anymore cause of how the new method works

[distant oar]

Oh ok, thanks for letting me know!

The new defaults look really nice. This is by far the best vanilla+ look we have gotten with renoDX

[glacial plank]

desert looks especially great

even if I prefer some of the other options in other locations

[glacial plank]

after trying it out a lot I think fixed exposure is a deal breaker to me personally

[merry tartan]

I'll see what needs to happen to make it viable

[glacial plank]

it just makes some things look so nice imo (probably LUT helps too)

[merry tartan]

I agree, was a big fan of it

the LUT thing can't happen again though, it's just not a part of how the process works anymore. There's a chance fixed exposure could work even better than before, we just hadn't looked into it yet

If it works well, I'll post a build with it

[distant oar]

Default RenoDx 3.5 vs PostProcessingRemoval Mod / only turned off local exposure + RenoDX 3.5 55 shadows 0 flare

I think fixed exposure could work really well with this

[merry tartan]

it's looking good at night right now

but highlights are my fear lol

[distant oar]

That looks amazing

[merry tartan]

if fixed was suffering before, it should be suffering more now with highlights

[distant oar]

Yes, the screenshot I posted also needs reduced highlights lol

[merry tartan]

hm, maybe not

[mossy swallow]

thank you for the hard work!
is the game compiling shaders like twice as fast as before?

[merry tartan]

no, it's just using cached shaders from your driver

the game doesn't actually need to recompile all shaders for a renodx update, it just thinks it does if a single shader changes

[glacial plank]

I still think that one preset from prince in 1.x was just perfect but there was a flashing issue back then and a lot changed in the next versions xd

I liked it so much I was almost ready to play with flashes 😆 I should probably try it out again to see if there is actually a difference with current presets or it's just my memory

[mossy swallow]

what would be the proper procedure then when I update the renodx mod?
I've been deleting the cache file on the game's root folder everytime

[merry tartan]

that's correct to do anytime we update shaders (which is true for most updates)

[distant oar]

I really appreciate that. But to be honest, my old preset would probably look horrible compared to the new RenoDx Version

[mossy swallow]

should I delete the driver level cache as well?

[merry tartan]

no, that's fine to keep

our fears may have been misguided

[thin fjord]

Wow

That looks incredible

[merry tartan]

fixed exposure seems to work substantially better actually, this is just flipped to fixed exposure + pre grade, everything else 50/default

[distant oar]

[merry tartan]

alright yeah lemme get this ready to release lmao

[glacial plank]

add LUT options too please if that's not too much of a hassle 🙏

[distant oar]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443

[merry tartan]

can't

[merry tartan]

wait is there no LUT option at all in the build ritsu put out? 🤔

[glacial plank]

yes

both options are missing

[merry tartan]

oh....okay then yeah I'll put the color one back, that's still compatible

[glacial plank]

I'm actually gonna try it again just to see maybe there's some gold we left behind xd

[merry tartan]

shocked how good it looks without adjustment lmao

[glacial plank]

is this monster hunter wilds 2

[distant oar]

Jon is cooking

[merry tartan]

it'll take a bit

there will be no preset for this, at least not yet

[distant oar]

No worries, take your time. I still cant believe how much work all of you put into this

[merry tartan]

but it'll probably be possible to cook harder than before after what I saw lol

[distant oar]

We will be eating good for sure

[zinc sapphire]

Jon go last area and lava

[merry tartan]

closed game, working on the build

[zinc sapphire]

will wake up to it then, gl

[timid quail]

It’s like a tiny Christmas for me every time yall release a new RC. You guys are amazing

[robust phoenix]

any updates on the renodx rpeset?

[white wyvern]

There is v3.5 RC0.

#1347155473266114580 message

Should I still forceautoexposure with 3.5 RC0?

[merry tartan]

forcing autoexposure doesn't have anything to do with reno

[white wyvern]

Oh, okay.
I’ll put it the other way then, do YOU forceautoexposure?

[merry tartan]

I do lol

people have posted evidence of lots of things though idk what's best

[white wyvern]

I just don’t know enough about these things to understand how they interact with each other.

[white wyvern]

lol. okay. I’ll try with both.

There are so many mods and options. But I have basically gotten rid of everything and only use RenoDX now. Not using these mods now:

• PP disabler
• Volumetric Fog disabler
• Ambient light disabler
• ForceAutoExposure
• ShaderToggler

Just plain vanilla RenoDX.

[thin fjord]

I only use renodx, I think I still have the ShaderToggler but not even sure if it's still needed with RenoDX

[white wyvern]

And thanks for the new version. Haven’t tried it yet. But was feeling a little underwhelmed with what I saw with v3.0 RC0. Thought it looked very basic and was thinking of going back to an older version.

[white wyvern]

Yea, same.
i do use the lens distortion disabler though.

[trim tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[merry tartan]

this works the same as the 3.0 RC version, but with adjustments that make it the best baseline implementation yet and it's not really close.

once I get the build ready with fixed exposure you guys will be happy lol

[timid quail]

It’s def the best baseline by far. I can tell the sharpness is different now, if I try to add rCAS it looks double sharpened

[rain sigil]

If I reduce vignette, what others should i adjust?

[timid quail]

I put blowout up to 55 and it helped with the saturated highlights

[merry tartan]

build is on hold for a tiny bit, SK has suddenly decided the service is broken and force stop/start isn't working so my whole setup is screwed up until I reboot, and I'm in the middle of something for work I can't close out of still lmao

[thin fjord]

that was happening to me some apps were making the service freeze

Microsoft Widget and VSCode being the main culprits for me

had to blacklist them in SK

[merry tartan]

maybe vscode is the problem then

good call, was clang

[thin fjord]

yeah happened to me a lot when I was editing my mod

[merry tartan]

• add back vanilla/fixed exposure toggle and related settings
• add back color grading lut slider

looking forward to seeing screenshots

[timid quail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[trim tangle]

Debug build?

[merry tartan]

just as useable as the one posted before, just with some extra settings

[trim tangle]

Cheers :)

[merry tartan]

or well, it should be

could have messed something up, technically possible lol

[south furnace]

for some reason this build stops my game from launching

[merry tartan]

weird

[south furnace]

reverting to 3.5 worked, ill try redownload

[merry tartan]

okay fixed exposure will in fact have some struggles with highlights

may still be worth using though

okay yeah you can drop highlights and get it back

[south furnace]

yeah I dunno what is going on, ill stick to the other one for now, my games been pretty stable so I dunno if it's just not liking something

[merry tartan]

only thing I can think is maybe some saved settings are making it crash

[south furnace]

i was thinking that

[merry tartan]

maybe try clearing out the renodx stuff from reshade.ini?

underlying code for this build is admittedly quickly hacked together

[white wyvern]

lol!! Same! And I thought its some mod so I ended up resetting everything.

Jon, I reset all settings/ini and tried launching without SK but its the addon unfortunately.

[merry tartan]

I'm using it, idk what would be wrong

[white wyvern]

Are there any logs I can share?

[coral notch]

Working for me also

[merry tartan]

you could try sending me the reshade.log

[white wyvern]

And this is from the working version (3.5 RC0)

[merry tartan]

not good enough at reading these 😩

did you guys try deleting (or renaming) your reshade.ini?

[white wyvern]

Oh, its alright. I'm just using the previous version. Will test this out if/when it works. Have tried without SK as well.

[white wyvern]

Yes, I do like a hard ini reset whenever any of these get updated.

[merry tartan]

:/

sorry I wish I knew

[white wyvern]

ini and shader r eset.

Its all good!

[timid quail]

Fixed/pre grade with exposure strength 70 and contrast 55 looking real good

[cloud vessel]

Oh damn

Only vanilla+ now?

[south furnace]

I can do a fresh install to see if something funky is going on

[merry tartan]

@cloud vessel I put up another one with fixed exposure as an option

but apparently it's crashing at startup for some so :/

[cloud vessel]

Nah I like vanilla+

Was just wonderin

[merry tartan]

ah, then this new one is gonna be insane for you

[cloud vessel]

I can also test the funny crash one

Since I'm assuming it's just an update of 3.5

[merry tartan]

yeah it's 3.5 with some extra stuff

[south furnace]

I should just keep a fresh version of the game installed. Not like I'm starving for storage, would make messing with a fresh version easier.

[thin fjord]

I got the latest one to boot

[cloud vessel]

Oh is it no longer detecting my peak brightness properly

[thin fjord]

wonder what the issue could be

[merry tartan]

no presets in this one, just reset all for the default settings

[south furnace]

I do wonder if maybe there's a dll that's just playing funny buggers somewhere and maybe it's a conflict but I think I've only got the renodx, special k, reframework and the disable postprocessing mod

[cloud vessel]

Oh it works it's just the off preset no longer works

But it does no longer detect my peak brightness automatically

[merry tartan]

off preset never worked correctly, it's only there cause it's kinda baked into renodx functioning

without a rewrite I guess, I haven't looked into it that's just what I was told lol

[cloud vessel]

what does renodx query to check monitor peak brightnes

[merry tartan]

edid info afaik

[cloud vessel]

cant find it in the edid

[merry tartan]

what's it defaulting to?

[cloud vessel]

1499

[merry tartan]

that's the windows default if it doesn't see anything

[cloud vessel]

it used to work

maybe windows is being stupid

[merry tartan]

idk, I've had it pick 1000 or 994 for me, or if I'm at my TV it's a tossup on whether it likes 1000 or 800

guessing it's a windows thing

kinda wish renodx would read hdr calibration data first and foremost

[white wyvern]

What does it show here?

[cloud vessel]

unknown

windows is being stupid probably

[merry tartan]

cause my TV post calibration does a little over 1000 nits despite edid saying the game mode is 800 nits

[cloud vessel]

windows color calibration was having a seizure

and thought my profile wasnt hdr

[trim tangle]

Would be nice if "off" simply defaulted to the game's vanilla HDR instead, allowing easy comparison.

[merry tartan]

ritsu said it wasn't possible, I asked lol

or I guess it could be possible but would require some effort

I'm assuming, don't know for sure

[trim tangle]

It's the only thing that makes sense for "off" existing. Otherwise, what does "off" even do?

[merry tartan]

this

we would have removed it otherwise

[cloud vessel]

Monitor is only HDR 600

Vanilla preset looks good

138 paper white feels a bit low

dunno

[merry tartan]

the default paper white is calculated based on peak now, just set it to preference

[cloud vessel]

Is that actually a good way of determining a good paper white

[merry tartan]

it's based on recommendations from an organization whose name I'm blanking on. Whether it's correct or not is debatable.

ultimately just set paper white based on the average brightness you want

[cloud vessel]

I just put it at 200

The old default

Well 203

For a screen with a 600-nit brightness, aiming for a "paper white" setting that's around 600 nits is a good starting point, as this level is considered suitable for indoor and outdoor covered usage.

Wow

Thank you google ai

Amazing info

[merry tartan]

the recommendation you'll find online is the same calculation that's in renodx

other than that it's just "set to preference"

[cloud vessel]

I'm just checking

[merry tartan]

the closer you are to your peak nits, the less range highlights have to shine

[cloud vessel]

Mainly trying to find the source

[merry tartan]

gotcha

[cloud vessel]

What's a good place to check the highlights

[merry tartan]

I wish I could remember...

[cloud vessel]

Suja?

[merry tartan]

too tired

for vanilla exposure, not sure anything beats daytime plenty forest

[modest ravine]

wait i have this monitor, mine only shows 400 nits thanks AMD

[cloud vessel]

You may have to use windows color calibration

It changes that value

[modest ravine]

[merry tartan]

is your monitor in hdr400 mode?

[modest ravine]

i'll have to look through the settings on it, but i dont remember seeing a HDR 400 mode. The alienware i upgraded from had one, but haven't seen it on the samsung

[merry tartan]

would be called something like vesa trueblack or something

might not say 400 explicitly

[white wyvern]

You do two thing:
1- Use Windows HDR Calibration to setup a 1000 nits profile
2- Use CRU to edit the peak brightness.

[merry tartan]

I'm going to bed now lol

[modest ravine]

thatll be my homework for tomorrow, thanks @white wyvern

[thin fjord]

is nexus mods really slow for anyone else?

[cloud vessel]

Define slow

Because it's always capped at 2MB/s if you don't have premium

[white wyvern]

In CRU, click the blue highlighted option to open the next pop-up. Then set Max luminance: 138, Max frame-avg: 138, min luminance: 4.

[white wyvern]

Point 1 is for windows to see the brightness properly.
Point 2 is for everything else to see the brightness properly.

After doing point 1 (HDR) calibration, just make sure the HDR ICC is selected.

[cloud vessel]

i think 200 is better for me cuz i have a light shining behind my monitor

maybe in a dark room the calculated default would be better

Anyways

Looks awesome

[thin fjord]

the actual site, not download

[cloud vessel]

Oh

Lemme check

Yea it's struggling

Also wtf

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/745

Someone uploaded the CRC bypass from world

On the wilds one?

Why?

The fuck is that troll mod

They made like 30 insanely long sticky posts

That are empty

Just to bury comments

[rocky wraith]

Virus or maybe a troll I guess? they keep trying it.
Had a wall of comments last time copied from the world mod, huge blank pages this time

[knotty cypress]

On my Samsung the hdr400 mode is the peak brightness setting set to off

[cloud vessel]

It's a fucking nif file lmao what

[timid quail]

is this white border around water just the game? looks bizarre

[viscid yoke]

probably just the game, looks like ssr occlusion artifacts

[rustic bridge]

what, a new version oO

i like how we jumped from 3.1 to 3.5 lol

[dense knot]

Oh yeah we can actually add it now

[scenic carbon]

yeah this game constantly opens on my second monitor..

[midnight vortex]

new version looks great, but might add custom color space back? The jp modern feels more natural for us older asians😂

[white wyvern]

No one else has game not launching with the new version?

I’m on SK, SK’s Central Reahade, Addon deployed centrally (tested in game folder too but same outcome), REF (as dinput), no mods. Reset all ini (SK, Reshade, REF, game ini), deleted shaders. Still the same outcome.

How does one properly delete shaders? Just shader cache in the game folder? I read that shaders are stored some else too by Nvidia and/or Steam?

[white wyvern]

Logs here for anyone brave enough to figure out what’s going on.

[rocky bear]

me every renodx version: "hmm the preset i'm using already looks pristine, i don't think i should download the new version"
me after installing the new version: "HOW ON EARTH THIS LOOKS EVEN BETTER"
So saying it again, sliders baraly touched, game looks better than ever.

[dense knot]

Probably SK interference

[white wyvern]

I tried without SK too, same outcome. Will try again in a while.

Someone above said tis working for them and they use SK.

[dense knot]

Update ref maybe?

[rocky bear]

should this clipping be normal?

[dense knot]

It clips to peak

[rocky bear]

ok so it's something like eye exposure stuff and i should not be worried about

[white wyvern]

It’s updated too.
Let me give everything another try. Will come back in a bit.

[white wyvern]

You were right!
Since launch, we were advised to put Reshade under SK as follows:

[Import.ReShade64]
Architecture=x64
Role=ThirdParty
When=Early
Filename=..\..\PlugIns\ThirdParty\ReShade\ReShade64.dll
Mode=Normal

This is to make it run in normal mode and load early.
I just changed it to:

[Import.ReShade64]
Architecture=x64
Role=ThirdParty
When=Plugin
Filename=..\..\PlugIns\ThirdParty\ReShade\ReShade64.dll
Mode=Comptability

And now the addon is working!

[lunar ibex]

it looks like your highlights are set to too dark or something

[lunar ibex]

i uninstalled special k because it had conflicts with REframework

[lunar ibex]

im confused, why remove all the settings

and the presets

i am now lost as to what to do

default settings are a mess

[white wyvern]

I may do that.

[white wyvern]

Which settings?

[lunar ibex]

theyre all gone

look how dark it is

[slender holly]

#1347155473266114580 message

this is the latest

[lunar ibex]

i see that wasnt the one on the ping

[slender holly]

also make sure to press reset all, because your sliders aren't default

[lunar ibex]

for some reason it defaults to 460 nits

my monitor is 1000

,,...

WHY DOES WINDOWS KEEP DELETING MY COLOUR PROFILES

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[slender holly]

classic windows things 🙂

[lunar ibex]

the hdr calibration tool is also a broken piece of shit

[dense knot]

Unnecessary complexity

[slender holly]

Are you able to change reno settings? I managed to get everything loading but the sliders don't do anything for me zz

[tender portal]

setting reshade to lazy and not in compat mode worked for me

[rocky bear]

holy...

[glacial plank]

I don't know what changed in terms of overall settings but the new version looks amazing with fixed and LUT slider with some tweaks, I think I see details and colors I never seen before in this game lol

just tried dark locations so far but man...

[lunar ibex]

Very cool but looks a bit undersaturated for my taste lol

If the sand isn't bright yellow...

[slender holly]

If I do that then for some reason SK and reshade won't load 😩

[glacial plank]

I actually reduced saturation just a little bit, you can def bring more color

sand would probably look like this at night... I think? 😅

[lunar ibex]

Mayyybe

If my sand was bright yellow at night i think id need to see a doctor

[tender portal]

i deleted shader cache, deleted storage folder in mhw directory, deleted the SK.ini for mhw, booted the game and then set reshade to lazy with no compat and reframework to early

[slender holly]

I'll try that

[glacial plank]

btw do you guys notice ANY difference at all after changing the sky quality?

[slender holly]

that worked! Thanks!

[trim tangle]

When I started up the game today with the newest RenoDX version, the shadows and such looked entirely fucked.

When I switched back to Ultra preset, everything automagically fixed itself

No idea what the fuck happened, lol

Probably not related to RenoDX, though...

[lunar ibex]

Apparently it doesnt do shit. Even the settings preview doesnt change anything

[trim tangle]

Oh, it looks bad if you set it to lowest

Clouds look ever so weird

[south furnace]

i slowly removed everything, it was specialK that wasnt happy

[glacial plank]

weird, maybe something in config ini can make it do stuff

[glacial plank]

some more screenshots, game looks fantastic

this is the preset I've uesd so far, but looking forward to what Prince will cook

[frosty osprey]

Which version is this ?

[frosty osprey]

keep crashing on start up

[glacial plank]

the latest that Jon linked

[frosty osprey]

Im sure what happened, but it keep crashing on start up

[merry tartan]

😩 you aren’t alone

Idk why it’s happening

[glacial plank]

yea I'm not sure what can help, I assume you already tried resetting things and such

[south furnace]

i fixed it, it was the way i had specialK loading things

[rich finch]

With vanila plus, it looks good, but flame a little bit red/orange

[timid quail]

I had to change reshade to load Lazy

[rich finch]

pregrade is without flashing right?

[glacial plank]

flashing was fixed a while ago

[rich finch]

thanks for sharing, will try your setting

[glacial plank]

I think this might be just vanilla colors as they are in the game, but not 100%

[rich finch]

yeah I feel it's more orange in forest, 3.5 looks stunning!

[wheat plover]

Lazy loading it seems to work

[Import.ReShade64]
Architecture=x64
Role=ThirdParty
When=Lazy
Filename=%LocalAppdata%\Programs\Special K\PlugIns\ThirdParty\ReShade\ReShade64.dll
Mode=Normal

[south furnace]

3.5 looks great, probably because I run my monitor in true black 400 instead of peak 1000 because of its aggressive abr, I just tweaked the highlight up a little bit, but even plug and play it's fantastic great work

[mossy swallow]

for those looking for the latest release, the pinned message's link is being updated

[tender frost]

wow, as an old vanilla+ enjoyer, new version is a straight up upgrade in every single situation when all post process features are left vanilla (no reframework PP mod, only lens distortion disabled for me)

fixed exposure can look better in most situations, but I gave up on it since sometimes it is too dark loses too much details and if I tune it it will ruin another scene. I am just happy with vanilla exposure it respects games own design more, for the red/orange color balance I think the original game color pallete is just more biased towards orange for flames and explosions, I wont mess with that anymore

If I mess with orange balance then explicit red colors such as wounds become over saturated

[lunar ibex]

Yeah the vanilla cersion has a lot of problems but unfortunately they did design the whole game around it

[frosty osprey]

thanks for sharing! I will give it a try

[zinc sapphire]

is this the version Jon uploaded, or the one ritsu uploaded?

[outer lodge]

looks like Jons

is anyone using the tweak volumetric fog addon? if so what's your ambient light set to, and are you using Emission enabled?

[glacial plank]

it's Jon's

[glacial plank]

I tried it but ended up liking the ambience from the fog more than clarity from it's abscense..

[shut violet]

your fashion looks "interesting" hahaha

[merry tartan]

default settings are flat 50. It will still load whatever settings you had from the prior build, you need to reset them.

[west remnant]

May I ask? After calibration my monitor's peak brightness is 420 nits, so should the peak brightness value in the renoDX setting, right? Or should I increase it to 1000 instead?

[cloud vessel]

you want it as 420 nits yeah

[west remnant]

I see, tks

[coral notch]

Yeah I can't get fixed looking as good as it is in 2.2. I guess that's the version for me lol

[glacial plank]

@distant oar did you have a chance to tinker with the new version yet? 👉 👈 😳

[shut violet]

the new version looks great!

the default vanilla settings look good, but the highlight saturation is too high imo

lowering it to 35-40 helps with the flame/fire issue

[zinc sapphire]

first test: fire looks better!

default values in jon's release

[rustic bridge]

does anybody use optiscaler? if yes how do i use it with reno?

[zinc sapphire]

so much better!

mh in the "last" area it is more orange again 🐸

[zinc sapphire]

50/40/35

[merry tartan]

the saturation is caused by whatever their sdr tonemapper allows for as contrast increases. Just putting that out there.

[shut violet]

These are my settings for now( I only adjusted the saturation a little), it looks great!

[shut violet]

Fixed Exp, 0 color LUT preset I'm experimenting with:

[cloud vessel]

I don't use it with renodx but I use it with prey luma

Which is a similar addon

I just made optiscaler load Reshade64.dll

You have to enable it inside it's config

They seem to not conflict

[timid quail]

even though default/vanilla+ looks amazing, i still think i prefer fixed

[timid quail]

this looks great

[shut violet]

0 Color LUT looks really nice, but stuff can look weird too, like fire being pink haha.

[graceful vale]

what am i doing wrong here? not seeing all options on latest build

[shut violet]

it looks like the intermediate settings mode

try switching between the settings modes

[graceful vale]

i got simple and advanced and thats the one on advanced

[shut violet]

there should be 3 modes 🤔

but that is not the latest build you are using

[graceful vale]

it says build Mar 15th there is there a newer?

[shut violet]

Try Jon's #1347155473266114580 message

'Vanilla Exp + 100 color LUT' vs 'Fixed Exp + 0 color LUT'

[graceful vale]

cannot start game with this one

[shut violet]

Fixed Exp + 0 color LUT:
[renodx-preset1]
ColorGradeBlowout=50
colorGradeContrast=55
ColorGradeContrast=60
colorGradeExposure=1
ColorGradeExposure=1.8
ColorGradeFlare=50
colorGradeHighlights=57
ColorGradeHighlights=35
ColorGradeHighlightSaturation=15
ColorGradeLUTColorStrength=0
ColorGradeLUTOutputStrength=100
colorGradeSaturation=50
ColorGradeSaturation=51
ColorGradeSDRTonemapper=3
colorGradeShadows=62
ColorGradeShadows=47
CustomToneMapMethod=1
FxExposure=50
FxExposureStrength=50
FxExposureType=1
FxFilmGrain=30
FxLUTExposureReverse=1
FxOutput=0
FxSharpness=50
FxVignette=50
GammaCorrection=2
SwapChainCustomColorSpace=0
toneMapGameNits=203
ToneMapGameNits=173
ToneMapHueCorrection=100
ToneMapHueProcessor=0
ToneMapHueShift=50
ToneMapPeakNits=790
toneMapPeakNits=790
ToneMapScaling=0
ToneMapType=1
ToneMapUINits=173
toneMapUINits=203

Vanilla Exp + 100 color LUT:
[renodx-preset2]
ColorGradeBlowout=50
colorGradeContrast=55
ColorGradeContrast=50
colorGradeExposure=1
ColorGradeExposure=1
ColorGradeFlare=50
colorGradeHighlights=57
ColorGradeHighlights=50
ColorGradeHighlightSaturation=42
ColorGradeLUTColorStrength=100
ColorGradeLUTOutputStrength=100
colorGradeSaturation=50
ColorGradeSaturation=50
ColorGradeSDRTonemapper=3
colorGradeShadows=62
ColorGradeShadows=50
CustomToneMapMethod=1
FxExposure=50
FxExposureStrength=50
FxExposureType=0
FxFilmGrain=30
FxLUTExposureReverse=0
FxOutput=0
FxSharpness=50
FxVignette=50
GammaCorrection=2
SwapChainCustomColorSpace=0
toneMapGameNits=203
ToneMapGameNits=170
ToneMapHueCorrection=100
ToneMapHueProcessor=0
ToneMapHueShift=50
ToneMapPeakNits=790
toneMapPeakNits=790
ToneMapScaling=0
ToneMapType=1
ToneMapUINits=170
toneMapUINits=203

[shut violet]

it should work fine, I use SK and I load ReShade + REFramework through SK

[graceful vale]

oh. it says the latest build removed some sliders.

right?

[shut violet]

if you mean Ritsu's then yea

it's vanilla exp only

[graceful vale]

ok yeah. thats the one pinned as latest

[shut violet]

Jon readded the sliders that still work

[graceful vale]

hmm not sure. i seem to be having the same issue as this guy. and the other guy below #1347155473266114580 message

thats ok though im happy to use the other atm

nvm trying this #1347155473266114580 message

[shut violet]

ah well rename reshade dxgi.dll to ReShade64.dll and SK will auto load it

but yea that should work too

[graceful vale]

Can confirm this fixes the issue

Thanks all

well. the sliders do nothing if i load it that way.

just gonna revert to the other version. some fuckery between SK and Jon's for me idk why

[humble cargo]

This is how I set mine and it works

[Import.ReShade64] Architecture=x64 Role=ThirdParty When=Plugin Filename=C:\Program Files\Special K\PlugIns\ThirdParty\ReShade\ReShade64.dll Mode=Normal

[shut violet]

just use the ReShade64.dll method

[modest ravine]

@trim tangle @next swift Update on the weird square around the player, and the white water texture. I was able to 'freeze' the square in place by disabling the 'Water Effects' on graphics settings page 2. My guess is the resolution for water effect filter is too small?

[next swift]

I have no clue. I kinda gave up 😭

[frosty osprey]

tried this method, reshade did load and also renodx with SpecialK, but somehow the effect from renodx does not apply. I tried different load method (lazy, early, plugin , and even tried with or without compatibility mode) and still does not work. I am not sure what did I do wrong.

I had no problem with dxgi.dll method install to game, so I reverted back to this .

[merry tartan]

You need to disable the plugin in sk

[south furnace]

Mine works without special k, tried many variations with it on and I dunno what's going on.

[trim tangle]

Interesting... but why does RenoDX causes it to go screwy is the next question :/

[modest ravine]

Hoping ritsu has a better idea.

[trim tangle]

Do you have logs from when you froze the square in place? Maybe there's something vaguely useful there somewhere.

[ancient ibex]

is there a need to leave film grain on for any reason?

[thin fjord]

preference

[robust phoenix]

hey fam,any updates on teh renodx preset?

[thin fjord]

MPaul fixed preset looks really good, been using that

[robust phoenix]

is it new?

[mossy swallow]

#1347155473266114580 message

[robust phoenix]

ah, i already have that one

so no updates since then i see

[crisp steppe]

has anyone tried this? https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/594?tab=description

[shut violet]

it looks very wrong/weird based on the mod pictures

[zinc sapphire]

maybe useful for sdr

[shut violet]

yea

[crisp steppe]

seems so

i tried it and it looks too dark and weird

[rustic bridge]

useful for ips panels 😛