✅RenoDX: Zenless Zone Zero

[cedar flume]

okay i see

[opal cove]

ok since you're not familiar with this

i'll just quickly patch ACD5

and VR training

so you can see when something is clamping

[cedar flume]

okay

this should be different right

would it be better if i just zip the file instead of the folder?

[opal cove]

no bro

what do you mean different

the unecessary files are not there anymore

[cedar flume]

?

its a good thing no?

[opal cove]

if thats what you meant then sure

[cedar flume]

its a different cso file

[opal cove]

wdym

[cedar flume]

inside the dump rar

[opal cove]

ah

4F2E

is the uberpost for the VR training room

[cedar flume]

yes im in vr

[opal cove]

so congrats

what's the other one

[cedar flume]

5077

[opal cove]

no i mean where/how did you find it

😭

[cedar flume]

char screen

Ye Shunguang after ult

[opal cove]

uh

dont see me

individual files

😭

[cedar flume]

sorry

[opal cove]

just send me once you have a bunch of them

[cedar flume]

okay

so you should already have acd5, 54F2E,B5077 and AE5827

[opal cove]

by the way

54F2E is wrong

[cedar flume]

oh okay

is it taa?

[opal cove]

probably a blit

so for VR training room

you should probably dump the one

right before 54F2E

try to show/unshow

[cedar flume]

okay

[opal cove]

so there should be
TAA shader
Uberpost <- what you want
54F2E

[cedar flume]

i cant find f2e

it gives me 5827 now

nvm found it

rn i have

E403 TAA

5827 should be uber

E7D1 does nothing

54F2E same as 5827

[opal cove]

then 5827

you can look at the other tab

5827 should have RTV0 has your screen resolution / 1.4

if you're using DLSS

[cedar flume]

yep

[opal cove]

thats one more hint

@feral gulch did you have to redo the uberposts

only

or did they change the lutbuilders and the VReffects

[cedar flume]

should i also dump the shade for ether veil

like lucia skill

[opal cove]

note which hash triggered where

[cedar flume]

should be correct

i hope

[opal cove]

note

which hash

triggered where

so i can test if needed

[cedar flume]

i closed the game

i gotta go now

sorry

[opal cove]

only 1 out of 6 you got right

😭

[cedar flume]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-9791600234365446047

[opal cove]

this is why i told you to wait

russian roulette shaders

[cedar flume]

you mean where the hash triggered?

[opal cove]

^

oh i didn't tell you to wait

it was implied

anyways

[cedar flume]

oh okay

[opal cove]

• Initial DX12 shaders patched

beacuse everything is clamping you dont know at what point to snapshot

now with the game partially unclamped you can see the moment where it's clamping

and follow the list I sent please, i have the conditions to trigger them written down

@cedar flume also download this and put this in your zzz game folder

should give you a pattern to work with

the uberpost is usually a frag after a bunch of gaussian blur

[cedar flume]

gotcha

i'll try later

[opal cove]

remember to note here how you triggered each uber

[cedar flume]

char screen is still clamped

same shader, B5077

the char animation when you start vr training is also clamped

combat seems to be working fine

theres a shader in trigger ult animation thats clamped, right as she fires

yi xuan first part of ult is also clamped

all of second ult is also clamped

[feral gulch]

ubers, new vr effects (1 for combat intro and 2 for shunguang transformation)

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/commit/eef8055d07b722c7d45b36cbf5d409d53de921dd

[cedar flume]

trigger switch to sniper stance is also clamped

last shot before quick assist is also clamped

[feral gulch]

if you check the files in that commit you can see where I found all the new ones, they’re all commented

[cedar flume]

seed ui when ulting is clamped

okay the rest seems to be working, i'll start dumping

[cedar flume]

this doesnt happen in other locations, only vr

[opal cove]

Yes brother its what you have to dump

I wrote it all in the list....

[cedar flume]

.

this one?

[opal cove]

https://app.capacities.io/home/a89af53a-b1bb-4e63-b254-22a71370cefc

I linked this shit probably 3 times at this point

[cedar flume]

uh

[opal cove]

Mods pls pin

You can clone that and make your own checklist (with the names removed, those are old binary names)

Trigger charged shot should be shared with wipeout shader

So you dont need to do both

But you will have to do it three times

Once in vr

Once in normal stages

Once in some specific shiyu stages

The list will save you time because you dont have to waste time capturing things that might be using the same shaders

[cedar flume]

got it

[opal cove]

Things that i dont note 3 locations only happens once

[cedar flume]

this is only for vr

of the things i listed before

i hope

[opal cove]

which one is which

[cedar flume]

wait

0xFED841EC.ps_6_0 is the intro

0x67DE31C8.ps_6_0 is yixuan sprint and second part of alt. ultimate

0xF8AEDCEA.ps_6_0 is yixuan first part of normal and alt. ultimate

0xEF2ABF77.ps_6_0 is trigger charged shot (quick assist)

0x33AA18FF.ps_6_0 is when trigger enters sniper stance

0xA1649372.ps_6_0 is aftershock (FIRE text)

i cant dump seed as i dont have her

[opal cove]

you probably have this one incorrectly

[cedar flume]

strange, it freezes exactly when she fires the first shot

its the only part it clamps

[opal cove]

check again

you likely got a blit probably

[cedar flume]

okay

[opal cove]

5/6 hit rate

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-emotional-crying-tears-wipe-gif-9323600216654592236

[cedar flume]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-13724048537815479089

nah dxcompiler helped

[opal cove]

you're doing all of this in VR training right

[cedar flume]

yes only vr

[opal cove]

so I can cross these off the list

ok

[cedar flume]

ok so 18ff is a frag_vr_distortion

its that the problem?

[opal cove]

nothing I see on the shader would indicate that its clamping

you should move on probably

[cedar flume]

it is tho

its like aftershock

[opal cove]

leave it for now

[cedar flume]

ok

i'll try to get the shaders for shiyu defense

i already saw some of them clamped

did you already get the one from the char screen?

[opal cove]

no

thats for you

i only turned on the game long enough to show u how to do it

been playing arknights

[cedar flume]

okay

this one is char screen

[opal cove]

like previously

send me when you have a couple

[cedar flume]

yea i just wanted to get this one out before getting all the shiyu ones

[opal cove]

patched additional DX12 shaders

actually one second

my clanker made a mistake

use this and send me when you have a bunch more

[cedar flume]

almost done

0x87729C8F.ps_6_0 YE SHUNGUANG AFTER ULTIMATE/LUCIA SKILL

0xC958F954.ps_6_0 ZHAO SPRINT

0xE11ABA60.ps_6_0 TRIGGER QUICK ASSIST

0xB9E3D211.ps_6_0 TRIGGER AFTERSHOCK(FIRE TEXT)

this is for shiyu

ok char screen works (mine is blown out bcs of 21:9 but whatever)

some things in vr are still clamped

i forgot 1 before

trigger ultimate

found the shader

does the aspect ratio make things blown out in gameplay too?

[opal cove]

no

[cedar flume]

okay

yixuan sprint and second ultimate look blown out

but they are not clamped

[opal cove]

yea

i know why

[cedar flume]

okay

[cedar flume]

can i send you trigger ultimate?

last shader i guess

[opal cove]

send me when ur literally sure there's nothing left

[cedar flume]

everything seems ok apart the blown out stuff

[opal cove]

its a gacha game and u haven't sent me the gambling shader

https://tenor.com/view/dym-tsk-tsk-tom-and-jerry-dissapointed-gif-21647617

[cedar flume]

isnt that a good thing

no gambling

[opal cove]

no gambling in a gacha game

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ai-cat-ai-gun-cat-gun-ai-gif-8974484528140508515

[cedar flume]

yeah

delete gambling shader

no more gambling

[opal cove]

anyways send me a zip of everything you have right now

[cedar flume]

okay

its just trigger ultimate in VR

[cedar flume]

ok yixuan fixed

trigger has same problem as yixuan before

looks blown out in sniper stance and quick assist

[opal cove]

yeah cause last time i told u that u got the wrong one

[cedar flume]

its not clamped tho?

just blown out

[opal cove]

are you using dlss

[cedar flume]

yes

[opal cove]

turn it off

[cedar flume]

let me try

sniper stance is clamped

quick assist looks fine

also vr intro is clamped

so its just sniper stance/ultimate which i sent you before and vr intro

[opal cove]

sniper stance is not clamped...

did you check hdr analysis

[cedar flume]

yep

202 nits when firing the first shot

[cedar flume]

before this i mean

at the start of the animation

with dlss off

same with dlss on

sometimes its 274?

wth

now its locked at 268

if i restart the training it goes back to 202

[opal cove]

lol

@karmic atlas can't trust the fucking clankers these days

blud can copy renderintermediatepass but conveniently forgot the upgradetonemap inside

[opal cove]

read the name

you already included this

[cedar flume]

oops

my bad

[karmic atlas]

AIslopper forgor?

[opal cove]

memory worse than a kid with tiktok syndrome

Patched additional DX12 shaders

[karmic atlas]

Me when I tell Grok to do something but get hit with an

'error failed to parse your previous message'

[opal cove]

gemini 3 takes forever to do something i gave clear instructions for
claude 4.5 forgot my instructions in the next command

[karmic atlas]

GPT 5.1 max codex max ultra giga remains undefeated

[opal cove]

@cedar flume

[karmic atlas]

Avg ZZZ experience

[opal cove]

5.1 kinda suck balls for creative tasks

[karmic atlas]

Umm that's why you exist

You're the creative tasks

Grok is there to blow unoptimised code that werksTM

[opal cove]

yea

but when you want to be low effort

[karmic atlas]

Me acting like I know wtf code is

I only started properly looking at shaders in October

🤷‍♂️

I am 3 brain cells and a hammer

Still better HDR than 99.9999% of Devs

[opal cove]

real

tbh Gemini 3 is like max for creative + multimodal

sucks ball at being an agent

GPT5.1 the opposite

the claude sits in the middle

[cedar flume]

i'll test later

going to sleep

[feral gulch]

https://github.com/MapleHinata/renodx/pull/7

DX11; added missing shader (Yixuan Nimbus Step in Hollow Zero)

[opal cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177605054203695206/1455738569015427197/2025-12-30_18-44-39.mp4?ex=6955d1b1&is=69548031&hm=8813d3a77fdda64fc809a4c9148c54d27664e753a8253d423cb582360543ede7&

[feral gulch]

there’s an uber that draws and clamps for a few frames during her second ult (around :12 mark in the video)

[opal cove]

i already fixed that

https://tenor.com/view/saber-burger-fate-eat-zorakhub-gif-21664731

also added FSR 1.0 upscaling if not using DLSS
adding autoHDR for pre rendered videos now

what boredom does to a mf

[feral gulch]

really farming those vscode hours

[opal cove]

its all DX12 only since im patching the DX12 shader but its simple enough to copy to DX11 if u can identify the shader

[fleet furnace]

DX11 looking good

[opal cove]

lmao

the video shader ain't decomping

[opal cove]

eks

fucking

dee

[mighty moss]

@feral gulch these tree bushes in failume heights are glowing red

[opal cove]

DX12 only

• fully unclamped YSG ult
• added FSR1.0 + lilium's RCAS (RCAS can be used separately without FSR1.0, DLSS must be disabled)
• added AutoHDR for videos

gotta fix the sliders up

but it's working

eks dee

[opal cove]

DX12

• menus reordering lmao

[feral gulch]

that's weird; i'm not seeing it on my end

[opal cove]

3dmigoto slash skin mods issue maybe

[mighty moss]

I figured out whats causing it, it happens when i have rabbitfx installed

[opal cove]

classic

[mighty moss]

Yeah seems to be an issue of the latest rabbitfx update specifically

I replaced it with the previous version and that doesnt have that issue

Altho having the latest rabbitfx installed without reno doesnt have that issue

Some conflict between the latest rabbitfx and reno ig

[cedar flume]

dont see any clamping or blown out

nice

[opal cove]

bro u gonna leave all the other shader cases unpatched lol

[spark agate]

effects are dazzlingly bright

Mutch better than ps5s native hdr

[solemn pasture]

It's crashing on enabled DLSS for some reason

[opal cove]

likely a you issue. Works fine here

[solemn pasture]

Probably because of specialk

[solemn pasture]

Why there is no HDR present?

[mighty moss]

Yeah dont bother with special k, its unnecessary with renodx anyways

And u can just use display commander instead for most of special k's features

[solemn pasture]

oh btw, without specialk game crashes and then dxgi.dll is renamed to dxgi.dll.randomnumbers

[mighty moss]

If you use dx12 mode you can just rename reshade dll to d3d12.dll

That should work

[solemn pasture]

Thanks! It worked

[solemn pasture]

Which gpu are you using?

Even without specialk it's crashing

[spark agate]

lm u crash too witch using dx12

[spark agate]

are u enable raytracing？

[solemn pasture]

Yup

Oh

It was crashin because of DLSS

[spark agate]

yep，me too. enable dlss was cash

[cedar flume]

what's left

btw happy new year

[opal cove]

Bunch of shiyu and hollow zero variants

The thing u sent me was the main open world variant not the shiyu variant

Its ok tho

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-thanos-fine-i-will-do-it-myself-fine-i-will-do-it-myself-mcu-gif-15647768486172114787

[cedar flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-14922675818058709477

[cedar flume]

i did shiyu tho

[cedar flume]

.

did i fucked up?

[opal cove]

Read what i said right after that

The variant is shared with hollow zero, u can see what yu missed by just going into the hollow zero area

Everything should be clamping there

Character wallpapers r still also clamped

[cedar flume]

oh

my bad

[opal cove]

in any case

Final DX12 patch
Summary of changes over the past few days:

• Added 99.67% of DX12 shaders now, probably missing shit like seed ult shaders which i dont have the char for and can't bother
• Added FSR 1.0 and RCAS
• Added AutoHDR for video
• Character menus should be unclamped even for ultrawide users

happy new year

[cedar flume]

thank you for ultrawide fix

[opal cove]

Finished the story, i remembered why i quit this game

[prime igloo]

I know this is not exactly the place I guess but holy moly the writing is so atrocious lol

I don't think a game has ever made me this mad before

at least I know if ysg is speaking I can freely spam skip 90% of the dialogue

[orchid coyote]

is this the DX11 from before + your changes or do we have two addons now for DX11 and DX12?

[opal cove]

Two addons

Download the dx11 one if u play in dicks 11

Once maple merges the pr it should be 1

[opal cove]

@feral gulch its all you from now on bud

[feral gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-again-paul-walker-gif-20189716

[feral gulch]

got autoHDR videos working on DX11

[potent nimbus]

Eyo nice

[orchid coyote]

from my testing DX12 is still the same as in 2.3 too

So quite bad/random

Ray Tracing Low has barely any advantages over stock and a -30% drop in performance

This game is so ass even on a 9800X3D

[leaden sparrow]

It's alright on DX11

Much better than the 13900k

[mighty moss]

Still have minor cpu bottleneck at times on 9800x3d unless i play at native 4k max settings

Lol

[leaden sparrow]

I get to like 200 fps in lumina square

on 13900k it was like 120-130

In actual combat getting 300 fps is pretty easy

[mighty moss]

Yeah ofc ur still gonna get way less cpu bottleneck on that than any other cpu but theres still room for improvement with a future x3d chip

[leaden sparrow]

For sure but really it's the game's fault

new chips will just be brute forcing bad code

You should see what ZZZ runs like on the PS5 zen 2 CPU

[mighty moss]

Yeah combat is more gpu and less cpu bottlenecked than overworld

[leaden sparrow]

The game is way too single threaded

Next x3d chip is going to be a big upgrade. It will be 12 cores and around 6.5 ghz

[mighty moss]

Yeah its kinda tragic there

Lumina square runs below 50fps lol, cpu bottleneck is real

[leaden sparrow]

PS5 cpu can hit 60 fps in other games with cities because they are properly coded

Idk maybe it's just how unity is

[marsh lotus]

Anyone know how to make Optiscaler + RenoDX work on DX11?
dxgi.dll keeps being renamed and crashes the game

[orchid coyote]

But Why

Optiscaler won't work without an upscaler in-game

It's only a translation layer

Just use Reshade

DX12 has DLSS but it's broken, doesn't work properly

you don't want to use it

[orchid coyote]

Also, the game renames all DLLs in DX11

inject using inject64.exe

[marsh lotus]

Okay, got it.

[orchid coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-phonecall-hello-haro-ok-got-it-gif-21143788

I tested the DX12 mode finally
The benchmarks being the average of 4 test runs around Failume Heights beginning and ending in Suibian Temple

DC is Display Commander, it suprisingly makes a big difference in frametimes

[marsh lotus]

Yeah, it's working great.

btw, should I keep "Generic Depth" and "Effect Runtime Sync" enabled?

I'm also using Display Commander.

[feral gulch]

You can turn both of those add ons off

They’re only useful if you’re using depth-based ReShade shaders or VR respectively

[fair stratus]

What do you guys use to load Reshade in DX12 mode? I used to use SpecialK before but looks now with DX12 it just makes the game crash.

[feral gulch]

load reshade as d3d12.dll or load it with optiscaler if you're using dlss, it's more stable that way for some reason from my experience

[fair stratus]

Trying to use Optiscaler selecting d3d12.dll during install, game straight up crash at startup for me. Any specific version you are using?

[feral gulch]

the newest one w/ load reshade enabled in the config. i haven't played much dx12 this version so idk if there's anything new to change

[fair stratus]

ty worked after grabbing latest from their discord

[prisma dome]

So, on the latest version that was added on the first, the UI brightness slider affects overall brightness instead of just the UI, while the game brightness slider seems to do nothing.

[fair stratus]

Did you have any issue setting up DC? Whole world is a black screen when I try to use it, UI appears, menus are fine (the character wallpaper even shows up correctly in pause menu)

[fair stratus]

ah works with latest build from discord

[mighty moss]

Rabbitfx got another update and it seems to fix the trees glowing red issue with renodx

😌

[potent nimbus]

are you having any issues with a green bright outline sometimes showing up when engaging dialogue with npcs? I've noticed it happening in the area where the joint investigation event is located. I'm also using xxmi and rabbitfx etc, but not sure if it's due to that

[mighty moss]

Yeah i did notice that at times, idk if its a rabbitfx issue tho

[potent nimbus]

alright, so far I only noticed it in said area

[mighty moss]

@feral gulch this character selection screen in the co op event is clamped

Prolly doesnt matter much since its a limited time event anyways but just wanted to let u know

[feral gulch]

i'll fix it sometime this week

[mighty moss]

@feral gulch just tried the new github build on dx11 and it seems like neither the autohdr video nor the fsr/cas stuff does anything in dx11 for now

Only works in dx12

And even then the fsr/cas stuff only takes effect at 0.8 render scale

[feral gulch]

i haven’t gotten around to implementing them in dx11 yet, will do it soonTM

[mighty moss]

Ah ok

[orchid coyote]

Oh are the changes merged finally?

But tbh I don't think they should release DX12

It's objectively a worse experience

[bright thunder]

@feral gulch renodx + DLSS insta-crashes (even with FSR and RCAS disabled)

DLSS seems to work fine without renodx though. Any idea what may be the case?

[orchid coyote]

Don't use DX12

[bright thunder]

Lol it works fine without DLSS

[orchid coyote]

Also DLSS is broken

It doesn't work anyway

They messed up the implementation

[bright thunder]

Works without crashing when not using renodx at least

Only reason to use it is with RT though tbh

[bright thunder]

But yeah it's a wip for a reason I guess

[orchid coyote]

If 50% performance loss is something you can deal with then go with it tbh

I think it was even more with RT High?

It's like ~35% with RT Low compared to DX11

[bright thunder]

I can hit 4K60 with RT High and no DLSS but I'd rather have at least 120 lol

[orchid coyote]

Yeah you won't hit it with RT High no way

[bright thunder]

Could at least hit 100 with DLSS eZ

[orchid coyote]

huh
what CPU/GPU do you have?

[bright thunder]

I'm on a 4090

• 7800X3D

Could maybe squeeze out a solid 3 more fps if I upgraded to a 9800/9850X3D

[orchid coyote]

Oh yeah then you're definitely getting GPU Limited

IIRC DLSS worked with Optiscaler

you injected Reshade via Optiscaler and it worked then

But still the implementation is broken, it's locked at 0.66 and you cannot change the profile

[feral gulch]

yeah only potential advice I’d give is load reshade with optiscaler or go back to dx11 lol

[feral gulch]

weirdge doesn't seem to be clamped for me

[feral gulch]

DX11 + DX12

DX11 changes:
add autoHDR for videos
add FSR 1.0 upscaling (currently doesn't work properly, so don't use it)
add RCAS sharpening (thanks Lilium)

fixes:
corrected video encoding/decoding with autoHDR videos off

[mighty moss]

Yeah youre right ig it got fixed somehow with a newer build since then

[feral gulch]

DX11 + DX12

DX11 changes:
added uberpost for Shiyu Defense wipeout screen

[plain oriole]

Hi, probably been asked a million times but reading up and down I can only see one reference to it. When loading Reno through Reshade dx11 I get "the client component is running abnormally" after a few mins followed by crash to desktop. DX12 works, but performance is wonky on that mode even on a 9800X3D/5090 4k setup. I can see DX11 updates right above this post, is there some trick to getting Reno to load for DX11 without being booted out after a couple of minutes? 🙂 Thanks!

[feral gulch]

load ReShade with something like inject64 or Special K

[plain oriole]

Thanks Nick 🙂

Thanks for the DX11 work

[orchid coyote]

The best way is to use inject64, Special K can be wonky with ReShade

But yeah DX12 is broken as hell, it shouldn't have lower performance than DX11 lol

[mighty moss]

There's a reason why dx12 is still a hidden mode not the default one ig

[plain oriole]

I would guess it’s just shader compilation, but it never really goes away!

[orchid coyote]

Yeah, the point is, DX12 compiles shaders at the start

So it can not be shader stutter

I have like -10% FPS

[potent nimbus]

I think it mainly comes down to not being a fully implemented feature yet, thus not being fully optimised

[plain oriole]

Thanks for the tips all, gonna try inject 64.

Mine doesn’t compile shaders after a GPU driver update. But I can tell it’s shader compilation stutter as it happens the first time it renders anything after a driver update. Eventually it settles down as the cache builds, but it’s always present with new assets and areas. I wish I could force a shader compile, that’d be lovely.

Performance isn’t toooooo bad in dx12 as I’m brute forcing it with a 5090, smooth motion on, with DLSS off. DLSS seems completely broken, characters are rendered at a very low resolution while it’s on regardless of config. I did try overriding with the new models but same result. Would be nice if they fixed it up one day

[marsh lotus]

Then why does it stutter every time something new pops up for the first time (and then doesn't stutter again) on DX12?

[plain oriole]

I would guess it's supposed to compile shaders, but for whatever reason it's not. Try it next time you update your drivers - no shader compilation. At least on mine that's the case. So most of the stutter is good old fashioned shader comp which gets a bit better in time

Until the next driver update 🙂

[leaden root]

Hello gamers, sorry if it was asked before, do I do anything special to load the linked addon on DX12 with both (unfinished) DLSS and (lackluster) RT?

[feral gulch]

Optiscaler as d3d12.dll, reshade as reshade64.dll, and “load reshade = enabled” in the optiscaler ini

[leaden root]

just to make sure, it's reshade with addons, right?

[feral gulch]

Yes

[leaden root]

perfect, thank you

[leaden root]

Hmm, anyone else tried forcing DLSS preset M? It has some HDR improvements apparently. Anyways turning it on changes the HDR output rather significantly. And (at least on my 600 nits OLED monitor) affects RenoDX's Peak Brightness setting - there is a visible change when going from 250 to 0 peak brightness as expected (the image "darkens") but anything above 250 not produce expected brightness clipping, instead it seems to stay the same, no matter if its 4k nits or 300. It also affects some colors it seems. Dunno. Anyway just an observation, I guess preset M is too new to work well RenoDX

[orchid coyote]

DLSS doesn't work properly here

The implementation is broken

[leaden root]

It actually does kinda work, surprisingly. The characters are less blurry compared to TAA, the GPU usage is lowered and you can see preset/internal resolution of DLSS. It's impossible to change quality setting and the image (especially environment) starts kinda wobbling in motion (first time seeing it with DLSS) plus in-game screenshots have visible aliasing... but honestly the downsides are acceptable for less blurriness IMO

RT kinda sucks though, looks like straight port from console so not many rays and (I assume) software, not hardware implementation. It kills my CPU in Lumina while GPU stays at 40%. Works well in less CPU-heavy areas such as combat arenas

Anyway those new 4.5 presets, M & L are weird with HDR so better to stay away for now

[glossy cape]

DLSS works somehow. Preset M actually does better than K with less ghosting artifacts on transparent objects.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1133480106078248980/1458324232336310292/Preset_K_vs_M.mp4?ex=6967cb87&is=69667a07&hm=609f7888828136623b145d92eaf6a67f7e7309bddf8c1c5c52ff02c8373a9c6c&

Preset L actually does a bit worse than M, but still better than K.

[leaden root]

That's some sick ghosting improvement. Btw did you find any HDR color weirdness when switching to M like I had? For example the sky in Port Elpis afternoon

That's how it looks for me. Also just noticed that aliasing seems worse on M

[leaden root]

Also a noob question I guess but where should I get latest renodx addons? I can see nick's here but also Maple releases new version on their git. Are those different? And which one is recommended? Thank you

[feral gulch]

latest builds here have stuff that hasn’t been pulled into Maple’s GitHub yet

[leaden root]

I see, thanks!

[tacit berry]

sup mashu

[mighty moss]

@feral gulch in simulated battle trial specifically, dialyn's ult seems to consistently trigger a crash

Even tho dialyn's ult seems to not have any issues anywhere else

[mighty moss]

Same with shunguang ult when its triggered through dialyn's chain attacks

[mighty moss]

Now im getting it with shunguang on another floor

This shits cursed 😭

Ok may have narrowed it down somewhat, most of the crashes happen if u use the ults too early

Very weird

Weirder still is i havent faced any of these issues in the time limited version of battle trial, just the standard permanent one

[mighty moss]

Altho this doesnt seem to happen with zhao ults

[mighty moss]

Nvm it still does, just less likely than dialyn or shunguang

[orchid coyote]

Are you using Display Commander?

Maybe

[mighty moss]

Yeah

[orchid coyote]

Disable it

Game crashes on these ults for me too, but doesn't without Display Commander

It's weird

[mighty moss]

Hmm sounds weird but ig ill try that later

[mighty moss]

Yeah i think ur right, disabled display commander and i no longer seem to be getting crashes on those ults anymore

Ty

[misty pike]

Someone managed to install this on Linux? Im on CachyOS using sleepy launcher

[misty pike]

After like 1 hour of trying to find methods to use inject64, i ended using DX12+Optiscaler+latest proton cachyOS and the mod doesn't work, shows up in reshade but does nothing on HDR10

If i swap it to sCRGB it looks...deep fried

[waxen sorrel]

Does this addon have any UI?

Reshade doesn't seem to bring any UI menus for the addon unlike other renodx mods

Using optiscaler + dx12

[waxen sorrel]

Nvm I'm dump. Didn't see the Renoxdx tab grouped with the others

[glossy cape]

New game update is up.

Looks like Hoyo removed DX12 mode in ZZZ again.

[mighty moss]

Why do they keep doing that lol

[glossy cape]

DX12 WIP, I guess.

[feral gulch]

Less work for me

[mighty moss]

Maintenance is finished

Just booted in and surprisingly didnt see anything broken so far

[mighty spear]

Did MHY somehow acknowledge that they're working on DX12 or maybe they forget to patch it out of the game from version to version?

[leaden root]

Nah, they never said anything. Almost seemed like a mistake on their part to add it randomly but then they did it again the previous patch

And now they removed it again? No idea what they're thinking

[fair stratus]

They have to be working on it since the settings actually have options for the dx12 features (DLSS and RT). But the flip flopping from version to version and the time they're taking with it is just weird. It's been like more than 6 months since it first appeared iirc.

[austere void]

cuz it was not officialy out ? so they are working on it XD

[austere void]

aren;t you guys accesing DX12 through unofficial means ? so they don't bother to compleatly remove it

[mighty moss]

I mean atp it seems like its rng whether dx12 mode is available in a particular patch or not

Lol

[mighty moss]

Its accessible through a launch flag

[austere void]

yeha, unofficialy

:3

the moment you can see on the launcher that you can switch to Dx11 that will mean it's official DX12 supported XD so for now your working with what they test

[feral gulch]

maybe the patches are coming from different working branches (idk anything about game dev so just a guess)

[leaden root]

uh so after DX12 got removed again I got some problems trying to run reno on DX11, any help? I was trying to inject through SpecialK but it was behaving weird/crashing so ideally not using it

[leaden root]

anyways trying to find some older advice can be quite confusing 😭

[prime igloo]

I've been using inject64 for like a year now and I have never had any issues at any point

[cedar flume]

either use inject64 or optiscaler

[leaden root]

I tried to use optiscaler but the game crashes soon after loading in :T

[cedar flume]

?

rename optiscaler dll to dbghelp.dll, enable reshade in optiscaler.ini

put reshade64.dll to game folder

done

[leaden root]

hm, I've been renaming it to something else, per a previous advice here

alright, I'll try your method next, thanks

[feral gulch]

I use SK without any issues tbh

[mighty moss]

@feral gulch found only 1 issue so far in the new patch

Wipeout screen in vr training room is clamped

[feral gulch]

i’ll fix it probably tomorrow

[feral gulch]

DX11

• added rg11b10_float upgrade (didn't seem to break anything and some shaders use it)
• added reset all button
• added automatic peak reset
• added vignette slider (now applies after tone mapping, before grain)
• added perceptual film grain
• removed RCAS toggle; 0 on the RCAS slider now disables it
• removed FSR1 (couldn't get it to look good with sm4 workarounds)

[feral gulch]

i didn't see any clamping btw, which vr area did you see it in?

[mighty moss]

HIA

[feral gulch]

try with the above version and lmk if it still clamps or send a screenshot if you can

[potent nimbus]

@feral gulch during the Primordial Nightmare fight in DA when she does the big "parry" attack at the start the whole scene blows out completely. Might be related to the resource upgrade from latest version?

also Yixuan has the same blowout effect on many of her skills during the Wandering Hunter DA encounter. Might be in other areas too, but this is the only place I've tested

[feral gulch]

Yeah probably that. I’ll disable it and post a new build tomorrow

[potent nimbus]

does not happen in shiyu defence

[potent nimbus]

scratch that, it does

[mighty moss]

Hmm yeah seems to work fine with the new build now 😌

[fair stratus]

Also happened on latest story boss when she does her control skill (the parry chain without flashes)

For reference, I fought her this weekend in HZ while I was on the old build, didn't have an issue then. Did story today with most recent build and was flashbanged.

[feral gulch]

yeah i'll take a look at it later today, unlucky most of the combat areas i tested didn't have any issues

[feral gulch]

DX11

• fixed typos in vignette code for some shaders

@potent nimbus @fair stratus should be fixed

[fair stratus]

ty!

[potent nimbus]

Thank you!

[feral gulch]

<@&1179197777616568400> may I have modder role?

[mighty spear]

Any place I can learn how to install this? Never used Reno on a MHY game.

[mighty spear]

The game launched with ReShade, but crashed and now it's not launching loading ReShade anymore.

[mighty spear]

I did some searching and I'm trying the HoYoShade route trough here. https://github.com/DuolaD/HoYoShade

is this safe though? Win defender says it's not.

Somehow I got it working.

[feral gulch]

Inject64 or Special K to load ReShade are the common recommended ways. But if you got it working then 👍

[mighty spear]

Now I have to run this thing everytime I want ReShade.

And Windows Defender did not like it so... What is the Inject64 method?

[feral gulch]

https://reshade.me/downloads/inject64.exe

#1330764788711555166 message

[mighty spear]

Awesome. If you could point me as well to the SK method it'd be great. :))

[feral gulch]

SK is really simple. Have ReShade64.dll and RenoDX in the game folder, then start the game with SKIF elevated service

[mighty spear]

ReShade64.dll would be the dxgi.dll renamed right?

[feral gulch]

Yeah

[mighty spear]

And I have to add ZZZ manually to SK I guess.

[feral gulch]

Also yeah

Make sure you add the game exe and not the launcher

[mighty spear]

lol I have like 3 dxgi.dll files.

[mighty spear]

Working now. Amazing at default settings and highlights 65. RCAS is such a nice addition too.

[mighty spear]

Even in SDR this game is kind of hazy or it's just me paying more attention now that I try HDR?

[feral gulch]

Yeah the vanilla color grading is intentionally hazy and washed out

I like 60 contrast 60 saturation 20 blowout to lessen the haziness a bit

[orchid coyote]

It's you paying more attention kinda, but also the game is just very bland in sRGB

[mighty spear]

Damn it stopped working with SK. Not it looks al wrong and ReShade is not popping up. Looks like HDR is SK's but in a wrong format.

It was working perfectly a couple hours ago.

I'm reintalling everything from sratch. That HoyoShade thing messed things up I think.

[cedar flume]

cant you use optiscaler to inject reshade

[mighty spear]

It's all working now. We'll see for how long it holds haha.

[mighty spear]

Oh I thought optiscaler ran on ReShade.

Are you guys using opti to enable DLSS in this one or that was just a DX12 thing?

[cedar flume]

theres no dx12 on this patch

[mighty spear]

Yeah I saw. Haha. So no DX12 no DLSS I guess?

Even with optiscaler?

Not very familiar with opti though.

[cedar flume]

.

[marsh lotus]

Use inject64

Make a .bat of sorts.

For example:

start /d "I:\HoYoPlay\games\ZenlessZoneZero Game" ZenlessZoneZero.exe```

Make sure Reshade dll is named "ReShade64.dll" and also make sure inject64.exe properties has it set to run as admin.

[misty pike]

Are you supposed to do this on dx11? This doesn't work for me on Linux, fck am i doing something wrong? Dll gets deleted, please hoyo return dx12

Even tried the xxmi reshade thingy and turns out it crashes on Linux and doesn't work

[fair stratus]

I use optiscaler just to inject. Never liked inject64 it always felt janky to me.

[mighty spear]

Thanks a lot. Will try later.

[mighty spear]

Working. Although had to use this ChatGPT suggested.

cd /d "C:\Program Files\HoYoPlay\games\ZenlessZoneZero Game"

start "" inject64.exe ZenlessZoneZero.exe
start "" ZenlessZoneZero.exe

[cedar flume]

sorry i have no idea about linux

[misty pike]

Yeah, i think i'll just wait until DX12 is back. If it doesn't i'll just give up

[mighty spear]

Do you guys know if there is an archive or a way to extract all this amazing frames from the game?

[feral gulch]

I think there are some sites or twitter accounts that data mine and post them for every patch, surely there’s an archive of them floating around somewhere

[marsh lotus]

There are some in the Zenless Zone Zero fandom wiki. Just look through the story pages and you'll find them.
https://zenless-zone-zero.fandom.com/wiki/A_Different_Path

[mighty spear]

Nice! Thay're all there and with no dialogue as I wanted. Not very high resolution, but it's a good starting point knowking people hoard those.

[marsh lotus]

Yeah, they're at best 1080p resolution max. Such are many gacha games.

[marsh lotus]

Gotta work with what ya got.

[opal cove]

hello gamers how do we use this with ZZMI

asking for a friend

[mighty moss]

https://gamebanana.com/tools/18082

This is what i use daily

Works pretty well for me

[opal cove]

yeah this is what i was avoiding

the instructions looked ass

i sent it to my buddy

he couldn't get it working anyways

[mighty moss]

Easy enough to follow imo

Just make sure to replace the included reshade dll with the latest version as it mentions

[night wind]

i use SK but dunno if that will be any easier

[Import.ReShade64]
Mode=Normal
Architecture=x64
Role=ThirdParty
When=Lazy
Filename=K:\Games\ZenlessZoneZero Game\ReShade64.dll

[Import.d3d11]
Architecture=x64
Role=ThirdParty
When=Lazy
Filename=K:\Games\ZZMI\d3d11.dll
Mode=

[mighty moss]

SK works too but well yeah not exactly the preferred method

You dont really need SK for renodx at all so you're just adding additional performance overhead for nothing, and any features you do need from it you can mostly get from display commander (reshade addon)

[night wind]

using zzmi already shits on performance anyway

[mighty moss]

Yeah it does but less than using both zzmi and sk

[opal cove]

🤷‍♂️

[night wind]

sk is negligible performance impact

[opal cove]

i dont want to bother downloading this game again just to help my bud

it is what it is

i guess

[opal cove]

its not negligible (a solid 150 -> 135 last i checked)

but ur on a 5090 so not like that matters

[night wind]

well and any performance you would have lost from SK is overshadowed by zzmi

does a solid 150-> 80 in chinatown

[opal cove]

then you wouldn't any extra overhead

which sk causes

i dont think zzmi even hits that hard

[night wind]

depends on what mods

[mighty moss]

It depends on how many zzmi mods you use i think

[night wind]

but ya when i tested it was the same fps with or without sk using mods

[mighty moss]

Definitely not the case for me

SK showed a clear performance impact

[night wind]

only time i saw a diff was with no mods running at 200+ fps where sk would lose 5-10 fps over vanilla

[mighty spear]

Do you guys touch the ingame Color Filter Strength slider? Default is 10, right?

[night wind]

turn it to 0 unless you prefer a more washed out image

[mighty spear]

I'm an "intended" look simp haha... So if 10 is default, guess this game is meant to be uglyish haha.

[opal cove]

turn to 10

and then use my preset

[mighty spear]

Where is your preset? Oh the HDR look one?

Yeah I remember doing some comparisons back then. Setting to 8 or 9. 10 is fine too. But was not sure if it affected Reno now that I'm enjoing HDR in this game.

[steep timber]

Finally I found this! 😄

[steep timber]

i may have a glow problem

any tips how to fix it?

[steep timber]

Turning off bloom in settings solves it, but then i lose the bloom effect.
Using the bloom slider doesn't help.

is that just a ysg bug?

[opal cove]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-awesome-gif-24299272

[cedar flume]

burger

[opal cove]

I could really go for a burger rn

[cedar flume]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[feral gulch]

What area is this in?

[steep timber]

aerospace city

lemme check at other combat areas

i think it's a general issue

Yeah. VR or qingming realm, all the same. Only with ysg. Evelyn or lucia sig effects look amazing and sharp

[feral gulch]

Can you send a picture of your in-game settings

And are you playing with any other mods

[steep timber]

I though it might be xxmi, so I removed it from the chain and it didn't help.

turning off bloom solves the issue.
bloom intensity slider doesn't help (or it does nothing)

[austere void]

Nice, i hadn't bother with Reno for ZZZ in some time :3

also you can pin the new versions ? so that people don't have to scroll up :3

[feral gulch]

I don’t have pin permissions unfortunately

[austere void]

[austere void]

HELP

after i restarted zzz i got this shit

and SK and Reshade won't show ingame

only at the beginning

can't open them ingame anymore

got SK to open ingame after restart

[austere void]

Ok, i got it fixed :3 it was some weirdo combo of SK HDR and ReShade chosing SK as a addon too XD

now that i got it sorted out it works

[feral gulch]

This site seems to have a good amount, if not all of them

https://zenless.tools/comic-generator

[mighty spear]

Oh I saw this, but it looks a bit too compressed at times. Doesn't it? Works perfectly fine though, this and the wiki source, since I mostly wanted them to use as background on my phone haha.

But! Thanks a lot for bothering though^^

[night wind]

@feral gulch dumped a clamping shader in event area, also getting crashes there

[feral gulch]

Does doing something specific cause the crashes?

I haven’t checked out the event yet at all (I do most of my daily gameplay on mobile )

[night wind]

seemed to be random, but I managed to get through that part and haven't ran into any other crashes aside from that

[austere void]

@feral gulch i use SK with Reno, it does work, but in the HDR settings in SK i see the HDR10 activated like this

is it supposed to do that? cuz i do not wanna SK hdr to affect Reno HDR

in the picture the HDR10 Native is selected 0.0

[feral gulch]

it's fine just don't change any of the SK HDR settings

[austere void]

Ok thanks :3 i was ready to ditch SK and use Optiscaler to inject Reno XD

cuz i read here that is the other method to use Reno in ZZZ

[feral gulch]

either way is fine

i prefer sk for frame limiter and reflex, etc.

[austere void]

yeap, i use that too, what did you use on Reflex? low latency or LL + Boost?

also do you know why out of now where i can’t use VRR ? I’m on Nvidia, granted in wuwa it’s the same, no VRR

[feral gulch]

hmm haven't seen a shader that looks like this before in the mod. is the clamping portion of the event easy to get to?

[feral gulch]

i use boost but there's not that big of a difference tbh. and for vrr unsupported try restarting your display drivers or updating/reinstalling them

[austere void]

Thanks will try that

[night wind]

its a story area in the latter half of the event

[feral gulch]

I’ll try to check it out this week

[mighty moss]

@feral gulch some areas of the 2 old hollow zero modes are clamped

[steep timber]

guys,
How do i make this work with optiscaler and without xxmi? Optiscaler doesn't seem to work without injecting it with xxmi.

disabling log files and renaming the dll to winmm worked! no it didn't

zzz catches winmm, but ignores d3d12

I cant make opti work without xxmi

[marsh lotus]

What do you need optiscaler for? The current patch doesn't have DX12, so you can't even use DLSS.

[sudden drift]

why my game is so grey

effect is lighting but other things like monster and background are so dark and grey，not coordinate

HELP me thk guys！！

[steep timber]

to inject reshade and renodx

[steep timber]

turn off color correction and volumetric fog
crank up contrast and saturation

mine

[steep timber]

Tried making it work with inject64, to leave out xxmi. Failed again. The .bat works, it says it's injecting, but no reshade when the game runs.

[marsh lotus]

You need to have inject64 run as admin. From my experience with it, it may take 1-2 tries to inject properly.

[clear ice]

Hi! First of all, thank you for this amazing addon. I’ve tried many presets for ZZZ, but your RenoDX implementation is by far my favorite.

I’m using it in SDR mode, and I’ve encountered an issue with extreme overexposure (clipping) on glowing effects during combat. As seen in the screenshot, the sword glow, hair accessories, and signature weapon effects become "nuclear" white. I haven't noticed this in the city/roaming mode.

Being new to RenoDX, I’ve tried adjusting various sliders but couldn't fix these specific highlights. Could you advise which parameters I should look into to reduce this emissive intensity for SDR? Thanks!

[feral gulch]

Mess around with the bloom slider. There was another report of YSG’s bloom effects being radioactive like that from another user that I haven’t had time to test and reproduce (though my short daily sessions don’t seem to have this issue)

If you’re playing in SDR your peak slider should also be 80

[steep timber]

I'm the one having this issue (in hdr). Bloom slidfer did nothing, I just turned off bloom altogether ingame.
I didn't know it works in sdr as well, interesting. ZZZ kinda needs it to not look washed out.

[clear ice]

Thanks for the quick responses! Disabling the "Bloom" effect in the in-game settings actually did the trick. The overexposure is gone, and the game looks great now.

I’m happy with how it looks, so I’ll stick with these settings for now. Thanks again for the help!

[steep timber]

what does the shadows slider do?
I set contrast and saturation to 65, blowout to 20 and that's it basically.

[clear ice]

The shadow slider definitely does something, a clearer separation of shadows in dark places, I don’t even know how to describe it... apparently some sliders don’t work or I don’t notice the changes... now on my monitor I like how the game looks with these settings.

[feral gulch]

You’re on an older version of the mod btw

[feral gulch]

I haven’t PRed any changes to maple’s GitHub yet so it doesn’t have the latest stuff from here

[tawdry python]

I would have played this game on pc but for some reason I keep getting logged out and have to retype my password every few days so I gave up and just play on console with that cursed HDR as it is.

Did anyone else run into this problem, any ideas? I asked around before and nobody knew

[feral gulch]

happened to me too. i managed to fix(?) it by signing into a friend's account, saving it, then switching to my own account and saving that too

[mighty moss]

I have no idea i cant remember the last time I got logged out of the game

[tawdry python]

To me it just keeps happening all the time and I use the pc like a console so ussually no keyboard at hand, can imagine how annoying that is

[orchid coyote]

Happens to me only when I don't log in a few days

[mighty moss]

Yeah i guess thats why i dont have that issue

I log on every day lol

[marsh lotus]

No DX12 again in the latest patch, I think.

[mighty moss]

Yep just checked myself, dx12 flag doesnt work

[marsh lotus]

Wonder if they're saving it for 3.0 patch since it is a major one.

[night wind]

renodx didn't survive the update, everything is clamped now

[mighty moss]

Pause menu wallpapers and agents screen still works fine but yeah everything else is clamped

Interestingly enough it works for a split second on the combat intro animation then goes back to being clamped lol

[mighty moss]

Actually works fine in vr training room as well weirdly enough

[night wind]

ya that somehow survived

[mighty spear]

So for now SDR and launching the game through the launcher should not interfere with any old Reno install right?

[leaden root]

no DX12, no HDR, clamped reno and new characters leaked. Man, people with eyes keep losing || ||

[prime igloo]

people with eyes keep losing

💀

real

[orchid coyote]

@feral gulch are you going to keep maintaining the addon or are we out of luck?

[feral gulch]

I’ve been really busy with life recently but will try to have an update for the addon this week

[orchid coyote]

Thanks!

Looking forward to it

[feral gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-gif-17401796370958889619

[uncut pendant]

Not all heroes wear capes

But I mean if you do, that'd be dope too

[steep timber]

endfield renodx is already abandoned, so we are lucky to have nick! ❤️

[prisma dome]

Why was it abandoned?

[fair stratus]

Devs went way overboard with a ton of features (which were nice tbh) beyond just working HDR, all of which were broken by the first patch.

HDR still works at least, but no maintainer anymore.

[mighty moss]

All maintainers have quit the game and nobody's left to replace them

[uncut pendant]

1.1 patch has broken environment rendering in HDR

Still works for a lot of things but yeah, it's just slowly losing features lol

Hoping someone does pick the project back up, cause Endfield looks really nice with RenoDX when it was working

[orchid coyote]

Endfield was just training ground for some new RenoDX features

An experiment

But everyone dropped the game due to it being pretty rough compared to the other gachas and games on the market

[feral gulch]

Latest build:

#1330764788711555166 message

new ubers, lutbuilder and bloom shader permutations which I think I got mostly covered; still haven't been able to figure out why shungguang is radioactive in some areas unfortunately. if there's any spots that i missed, lmk

[fair stratus]

Just as i was gonna sit down to continue the patch story, you're the goat. Thanks for taking time for this.

[mighty spear]

Nice! But vignette default 0 mean no vignette? What would be the value if I want the game's original vignette?

[feral gulch]

50 would be vanilla, should be in the tooltip when you hover over the slider

just from my preference it doesn't add a lot in most cases and darkens the whole screen a bit too much; i'll probably just add my settings as a preset in the future and return the default to vanilla

[mighty spear]

Sounds like a good approach. I like when Reno defaults to SDR and then modders add a toggle for those who want the extra mile like "match SDR", "HDR looks" or something like "modder settings".

[muted dock]

too bad tho... the game itself is great imo... just the gacha system is predatory AF...

[muted dock]

i dont know if i am doing something wrong or it is intended but i can´t use any reshade shaders together with renoDX.. i mainly use turboGI and filmicTonemap but as soon i activate them the image gets pretty dull with HDR... any workaround for that? also not all options seem to work.. i move the sliders around but don´t see any difference or the changes affect only the reflections of the game´s world xD

all the settings in color grading change only the look of the reflections but not of the main image itself... really weird.
i use xxMI to hook reshade into the game with mods together

[orchid coyote]

most reshade shaders don't work with HDR

you need to find specific ones that explicitly state they are HDR compatible

[muted dock]

okay that would solve the one problem.. but not the other one where i cant change anything in color grading ^^

[orchid coyote]

did you make sure to change the scene?

[muted dock]

wym?

[steep timber]

I usually fast travel to see the changes get applied.

most of the sliders doesn't work on the fly and you need to reload the scene

[feral gulch]

Some of the agent backgrounds in the pause menu apply changes in real time. I like to use Vivian’s when testing

[muted dock]

ah thank you 🙂
thats an odd behaviour ^^

[uncut pendant]

It's got the worst gacha of any gacha game I've ever played. And I have unfortunately played a lot of them. But the fact it's got compelling gameplay and no real endgame where I NEED a top notch team yet means it's offset just enough for me to enjoy it. And damn when renodx was working completely for it, beautiful game.

[steep timber]

"It's got the worst gacha of any gacha game I've ever played."

In some sense yes (no limited pity carryover, only 6* pity carryover. No 50/50 guarantee. etc)
But in other cases it's pretty good. 6* rate is pretty high and you can lose to 2 previous chars. 120 is the guarantee, but you don't have to spend currency on weapons.
On gilberta banner I had to go to 120, but on Tangtang banner I got 2 tangtangs and 2 gilbertas in 120 pulls.

But yeah, no need to pull for chars, no incentive, it's just an option to have more variety or novelty.

The sanity system sucks ass tho. ZZZ is way better in that sense.

[muted dock]

yeah thats what i was mentioning. i also play WuWa and ZZZ every day and spent also some money .. but on arknight i refuse.. the only thing i get is the monthly pass... i really dont like the pity system, the non existent carry over of pulls, the expiering pulls, the free not counting pulls towards pitty... the expiering sanity flasks etc.. fomo everywhere... but as i stated the game gameplay wise and story wise is great.. so much live and detail went into it that it almost feels like a regular singleplayer game. i hope they change some of the bad aspects of their gacha soon... the playerbase is shrinking...

[mighty moss]

@feral gulch wipeout screen in tower mode is clamped

[uncut pendant]

The weapon pulling is directly dependent on your gacha luck, so I'm not really sure what you mean by "don't have to spend currency on weapons"

You have to spend currency to pull on characters in order to pull on weapons, and how much weapon pull currency you get is directly proportional to your character pull luck

It's ass

[steep timber]

I saw some green outline glitches in tower and when starting or ending conversations with NPCs at H.A.N.D.

@feral gulch

[muted dock]

exactly.. if you "get lucky" with a character and get him early, you don´t get enough pull material for the weapon.. so you are forced to pull on the character banner if you want the weapon... or you cash in

just a quick question... is there any difference in RenoDX and SpecialK HDR? both do basically the same isn´t it?

[marsh lotus]

The RenoDX mod does way more than SK HDR can do.

[muted dock]

explain? what does it more?

[marsh lotus]

I'm not an expert, but in my basic (and probably not correct) understanding, RenoDX modders can check and do proper modifications for games to present a better and more accurate HDR experience.

SK HDR has some features, but they aren't as deepdive heavy as RenoDX can be.

[uncut pendant]

Or catch 22, have shit luck with pulling and barely have any weapon currency period. Someone gets a pull with 2 characters that are 6*? weapon pulls for days

Hit hard pity on 4*s mostly and a handful of 5s? Fucked as fuck

[mighty moss]

SK HDR isnt a native HDR implementation unlike RenoDX, its basically just inverse tonemapping a SDR image into a HDR appearance (kind of like Windows auto HDR but more customizable), but ofc this wont look as good as native HDR and also doesnt adjust UI brightness accordingly

Youll always want to take renodx over special k hdr if the option is available

Also renodx for this game has some game specific options available like being able to adjust the amount of vignette or bloom, and rcas sharpening filter for taa

[muted dock]

i would like to use it but it is kinda buggy for me , vignette applies only to the left side of the screen and also in dark areas i get purple shadows instead of black... anyone knows what could cause it?

[tawdry python]

Sorry for bad phone picture but this is from console I hope it gets the message across

This is supposed to be native HDR, calibrated in-game.

Look at that shitty clipping on the poster. It's horrible (even worse in person) there's no way to "fix" it.

Can anyone check how does this look like on pc with the Reno mod? Is it any better?

I find there's lots of instances like this in-game native hdr where it looks ITMed or just clipped to hell + washed out etc, but this one was the worst one yet. I'm curious how it looks with the mod

[uncut pendant]

where exactly is the poster in-game?

[steep timber]

Probably fantasy resort.

I'm there rn, looks fine, but I have no idea what the "shitty clipping" means, lol

it means blown-out whites?

idk

Tbh the best things about zzz hdr are the Sig effects for me.

[steep timber]

*The green outline at HAND seems like only was a thing with Qiqi, it doesn't appear with the current event npc. @feral gulch

[tawdry python]

Yes this looks completely clean. You can't resolve any of the detail on her bra on my end, it's all a glowing yellow blob and her face is blown out too on my end (looks even worse, the camera settings I used scaled it down) it looks like a 100 nit source ITMed to 1000, it really stands out how bad it is

Goddamn your picture looks so much better

I'm tempted to reinstall zzz on pc just for this but it's such a hassle to run it over console version (it asks me to reenter my login manually every few days and takes longer to load)

[steep timber]

even if you log in every day?

[steep timber]

oh, so it looks that bad, lol

it's strange how developers have no idea how to implement hdr

[mighty moss]

Looks fine to me i guess?

[feral gulch]

I feel like the few seconds of inconvenience to log in is much more worth it over dealing with the console HDR shitshow altogether

[tawdry python]

It's waaaaaay better. It looks like absolute slop on native. I might try to record a clip and hope YouTube decides to process its HDR it's the only way I can show how bad this really is

[tawdry python]

When most of the time you just want to quickly login to do the dailies it's way too much inconvenience for me, on those days I don't really care how the game looks I just want to get it done you know how it is last thing you want is a login screen stopping you (I don't have a keyboard nearby when its my gaming time)

Yes don't ask I have a sofa setup 😅 there is a wireless keyboard I can use but just gets in the way its got no place there

The login issue is really bugging me

[feral gulch]

That’s fair; I do my dailies on my phone most days. I only really play the game on PC for story content, endgame and working on the mod

[tawdry python]

Oh I would do if my phone could run it. I tried on steamdeck but that's a pain to setup too

And even if I want to stream it to my steamdeck from my pc - there's that login screen again

It just completely ruins it for me. And it doesn't seem normal it keeps asking me to do it almost every time

[uncut pendant]

I have literally never had to re-enter my password on PC version

[mighty moss]

Yeah i dont have that problem either but i login the game every day

[uncut pendant]

Same. But also I have the game on my nvme drive so it loads way faster than even on PS5

So it's honestly just more convenient to launch it on PC for me rather than anything else, but I am also at my PC a lot

[fair stratus]

Yeah PC only asks me to log back in if I ever go like 1+ week without using the PC client

I do my dailies on mobile all the time, only launch the PC client on the weekend to do weeklies/events and I don't get logged out.

[tawdry python]

That is crazy I don't understand why it's asking me so often

[tawdry python]

I wouldn't be so sure about that. PS5 games are literally optimised for nvme only loading, while most pc games make compromises. Saying that however, zzz loads slow AF for a ps5 game it doesn't benefit from it at all it seems to be mobile optimised first

So in that I think they're the same as pc. But compared to other (real) ps5 games that literally have no loading (1 sec black screen) it is a very long loading time - which matters more when you just want to do dailies and looking at loading screens is like half of your time if not even more!

[tawdry python]

That would make sense but I just came up with another theory

Since I mostly use the console client even when I had the pc version installed, maybe logging onto console logged me out of pc? But wouldnt logging into mobile do the same then?

[steep timber]

I don't even know my pw, i always copy paste it from the pw manager.

Have you tried logging into another acc and saving the login stuff then logging in into yours again with saving login info?

[uncut pendant]

I have a PS5. I've done side-by-side loading of several games, PC almost always loads faster.

[orchid coyote]

What are your settings?

Maybe try to lower contrast a bit

And make sure you don't have RTX HDR or Windows AutoHDR turned on

It seems like it's double tonemapped

[tawdry python]

Nah, their native hdr is just slop. This is native HDR on console

It's why we have this mod

I was showing example of how bad it is

[orchid coyote]

Oh

I thought it's Reno

[tacit berry]

I don't think it was terrible, but a lot of stuff is clipped

when it shouldn't be

[fossil geyser]

When I have both the Honkai and ZZZ RenoDX addons installed at the same time, the system only ever recognizes the Honkai one in both games, and the other one never shows up. However, in Genshin Impact, both separate RenoDX addons are detected correctly. Why is this happening?

[feral gulch]

Why are you using both addons at the same time to begin with?

[uncut pendant]

You need to only have one add-on per game. You don't need both games' add-ons. Why are you doing this?

[fossil geyser]

But in Genshin Impact, two injection programs can both be recognized and switched on/off independently

Because both of these plugins are in the same call folder

[uncut pendant]

There's no reason for it. Each game-specific add-on is designed for that game

There's no reason to use another game's. At all.

[mighty moss]

Antilag 2 injection (via fakenvapi) with display commander seems to work fine in zzz nowadays without needing dx12 mode (i have antilag 2 enabled as shown with the top left overlay)

For nvidia users i assume nvidia reflex injection will also work the same way as well (without needing fakenvapi), but i dont have nvidia gpu to test that

[orchid coyote]

Why would you want reflex in this game tho

just cap at 120fps and you're golden

[marsh lotus]

Game's easy enough as it is. Don't even need reflex.

[mighty moss]

Why not

[mighty moss]

Easy enough to clear endgame sure, but chasing high scores like i tend to do is another matter

[marsh lotus]

🤷

[mighty spear]

I don't even have thet Deadly Assault mode unlocked haha.

[uncut pendant]

Reflex isn't going to get you higher scores lol

Hitting the rotations right, not popping ults before boss invuln stages, and grinding substats is literally all you need to do.

You're not going to squeeze out enough extra DPS just from using reflex to matter pretty much at all unless you're like... in the top .1 percent of the community for damage

[mighty moss]

It could potentially tbh, ive had instances of misinputs due to input lag moments

[mighty moss]

Yeah im like regularly within top 1-4% ranking endgame on an account with like almost no mindscapes on any limited units

So im prolly pretty high level when it comes to my endgame competitiveness

Yuh

[steep timber]

Looked at zenless without hdr. Damn, does it look flat and the blacks are way too gray.

this mod was meh in sdr, but looks like vantablack in hdr 😄
Edit: Ohh, it's basically just the contrast 😄

[uncut pendant]

Yeah, that'll do it

[feral gulch]

Latest build: #1330764788711555166 message

<@&1179197777616568400> can this be pinned? ^

[rose reef]

Just wanna ask, it seems like reno is only effecting the look of the agent menu, but when I walk around the world it doesn't look like anything has changed. Idk if I'm crazy or not

This is happening too

[feral gulch]

Can you post a full screenshot taken with ReShade?

[rose reef]

Unless I'm crazy, it doesn't seem like it's affecting anything outside of the game menu

The ui does get affected

And the brightness but thats it

And then this happens with a mod and nangongs w engine effect

Same settings, just more brightness, but nothing else

[feral gulch]

Does the bloom slider affect this at all? And does disabling bloom through the game settings make it go away?

[rose reef]

No bloom is at 10, and moving the slider doesn't change anything

Slider only changes the scene when I'm in the agent select menu lmao

[feral gulch]

I’ll see if the radioactive glowing is resource upgrade-related when I’m home later. Currently I’m looking at the pictures on mobile

[rose reef]

Yeah no worries, thanks for getting back!

Blowout slider does effect the overworld

But only for the ground

[feral gulch]

Can you send screenshots?

[rose reef]

Idk if those photos

translated

[feral gulch]

Most of the sliders require scene changes in the overworld to apply

It looks mostly the same to me on mobile

Some of the pause menu backgrounds are real time if you can try and see if the sliders work there

[rose reef]

Yeah, I've changed scenes and everything but doesn't seem to do anything. Even if I wasn't, with how my current settings are effecting the game when I'm in the main menu it would have eventually applied, but it doesn't.

Anyways I can't do much more right now cause I gotta get back to working

[feral gulch]

I wonder if it’s because you’re on ultrawide. I don’t know if there are other UW users here or if they have had similar issues

[rose reef]

Ahhh I guess that could be a factor

[feral gulch]

I’ll take a look when I’m home

[rose reef]

Appreciate ya

[feral gulch]

Can you send a pic of your RenoDX settings and see if the sliders work anywhere else? I.e. failume heights?

[rose reef]

I'll do that in a bit sure

Ok so, Might have to nevermind because after boothing the game again, it seems like the effects are working now in the outer world. Although to random degrees. If I turn saturation all the way to 0 it doesn't go to black and white. Idk if it's supposed to though

These are my settings

I will say despite the small changes, it still looks washed out in the overworld compared to in the menu

Updated settings

The menu for hollow zero also isn't affected much at all

Seems to be only the agent menu and the main menu so far thats actually affected by the settings

rcacs sharpening doesn't change anything

[feral gulch]

You’re on an old build which is probably why the sliders aren’t entirely working

[rose reef]

Oh

[feral gulch]

The pinned build I posted is updated for the latest patch

[rose reef]

Silly me

I tried installing that one first but it didn't work so I went to the github and then that one worked

I'll try the updated one again

Yeah it says there is a problem with the addon

[feral gulch]

Whats the problem?

[rose reef]

I think it's because this is 6.6.2 reshade but I don't know how tto update reshade with the injector I have on so I can play with XXMI

[feral gulch]

Yeah it’s not loading bc your ReShade is out of date I’m assuming

I think @mighty moss does use xxmi without any issues though

[rose reef]

Yeah Imma try to get it going again

Thanks for the help though! I'll let you know if I get things working

Ok I think I got it working

Yup that did it. Thanks for helping me out!

Oh wait

now zzmi isn't working despite launching the game with it lmao

ok nvm think we good now

Beauty thank you!

I will say, I have noticed that the hollow zero menu remains unaffected

[feral gulch]

Looks right

[rose reef]

Hmm, guess it just looks a little washed to me

It could be a me problem

[feral gulch]

It’s all UI so it shouldn’t be affected by any color grading

[rose reef]

hmmm

Is there any other way to affect bloom even after setting it to zero? or do w engines just emit no matter how much you go?

[feral gulch]

You can turn it off in the in-game settings

[rose reef]

ohhh

[mighty moss]

Yep I use it with this
https://gamebanana.com/tools/18082

[mighty moss]

Download latest reshade addon exe
Extract reshade64.dll from it and replace your existing reshade64.dll that your injector uses

[rose reef]

I'll remember to do this with future updates! Thanks for the help

[mighty moss]

You can also try reshade hdr installer as well to automate the reshade updating process in the future

[rose reef]

I did starluxe and luckily that worked this time

[mighty moss]

Yeah i guess that works too

But it does mean you have to launch the game through starluxe launcher so i dont like that method personally

[mighty moss]

This one doesnt have that requirement, it will work as long as zzmi is loaded no matter how you launch that (i dont even launch through xxmi launcher, i use starward instead (third party hoyo launcher))

[rose reef]

You actually don't, once you connect it to xxmi you can just open the game from that

[rose reef]

I tried to use that but it never worked for me properly

Starluxe works the same as far as I'm aware, once its injected to xxmi you just launch however you do

[steep timber]

yeah, that's a certified bruh moment, lol

it happens