✅RenoDX: Unreal Engine

[elfin lance]

look at the white on the mountains on the back

here

stellar blade isnt the best example for whiteclip; but its an example of what it does

just open multiple skiv clients

thats what i do

if i open 5 images

I open 5 skivs

its a setting

enable multiple instances or w/e

whitepoint refers to something specific (like the US LCD/JPN LCD colorspace) -- d65 vs d93

as for the whiteclip slider, yea its a solid slider

when you make per-game mods, you hard-code whiteclip

but when a mod covers 50000 games (Unreal Engine) -- we need a slider that defaults to 65 [because of log memes]

thats where it is

well advanced is only upgrade sliders; but yea its hidden from basic

I have a pull request open, but when it gets merged idk -- waiting for shortfuse to tell me what to do -- either rename it or move it up

or merge it as is, and we can fuck with names later on

[elfin lance]

dude thats a reshade fx -- you're comparing two different things

thats not the point, the fx will only apply to the final output image

when you work with a renodx mod, its applying whiteclip to the actual untonemapped game render

btw you're also double tonemapping if you use that fx ontop of a game

no thats not neutral, thats tonemapped already

via renodrt

any testing with an fx is useless

but I already sent a whiteclip addon yesterday, it just doesnt have the latest lies of p lutbuilder which is fine

stellar blade isnt a good example for white clip; white clip works the best in games that dont get that bright

because the untonemapped image doesnt get that bright

shortfuse literally explained all this an hour ago

but there are a few highlights that are getting brighter with 15

here is an extreme example, whiteclip 65 vs 10 -- look at the highlights on the blob behind the character

[elfin lance]

thats not a good example either, a good example is a game that doesnt get very bright

I just dont have a lot of UE games downloaded rn

[bold gulch]

Put it in your Chinese cartoon games

[elfin lance]

they're all chinease cartoon games

for per-game mods I dont add sliders, I just find a good value to hardcode it at

like unity (or any arri/log game) is hardcoded to 65.f

[torpid glacier]

How can I make reno and sk work with logic mods? I found a mod that hides drone and thats the only mod I wanna use but can't because the game refuses to load if I install it. It needs UE4SS

[ashen herald]

#1378128119160115232 message

Check the above

[tired mulch]

what's the default value to match UE without the new whiteclip slider

whiteclip 0, whiteclip 100

[torpid glacier]

Oh. Thank you. So I just need to rename reshade dxgi to reshade64.dll and it should load everything? How did you install both sk and Reno locally btw?

[spare bane]

white clip 0 is basically untonemapped, technically

leaves no room for highlights above your set peak nits

[ashen herald]

Follow iAnime instructions, since I did local SK and that refuses to load with UE4SS

[spare bane]

there's an internal limit of peak / diffuse (eg: 800/200 = 4)

[torpid glacier]

I’ll give it a try but could you please share how did you manage to install both sk and Reno locally? because that’d be cool for other games. As far as I know they both require dxgi file.

[ashen herald]

Take SK's .DLL, rename it to dxgi.dll and drop near game's .exe (it should hook after that on game launch)

For reshade either

1. take the .dll and rename it to ReShade64(32).dll then drop near game's .exe. You'll need to double check inside of SK menu that ReShade64.dll is being added as a plugin

Or

2. Use the global injection of Reshade under SK menu (in-game) but make sure compatibility mode is toggled to off + you might need to fiddle with Plugin/Lazy loading to get Reno to work

[pliant sail]

The Turing Test

broken visual
sliders dont work

[torpid glacier]

So this is how my game folder looks. I'm definitely doing something wrong because the game refuses to even load up with local as well as global injection

Don't have any other mods installed whatsoever besides the logic mod one

[ashen herald]

Local SK won't work with UE4SS

You'll need to use the global method iAnime explained in my linked message

But do everything one step at a time

[torpid glacier]

global injection is also not working

the game just does not load up at all

[ashen herald]

Following the steps outlined?

[torpid glacier]

yep I renamed rehade dxgi to reshade64.dll

[ashen herald]

Let's move over to #1378128119160115232 since this encompasses that title

[carmine ice]

Hi everyone, I'm trying to use the universal mod for lad: ishin, but the sliders don't do anything, I'm I suppose to do anything else other than installing reshade + addon and the addon64 file?

[ashen herald]

Did you test blowout set to 100?

Should go black and white

If UE Reno doesn't work for a game, you'll want to enable LUT dumping and send the lutbuilder over to Marat

Assuming ofc the game isn't doing some custom processing

[carmine ice]

nop, blowout doesn't seem to do anything, the only options that make a difference are color space and swap chain format from hdr10 to scRGB, which messes with the colors

obvious noob here, sorry if I come off as ignorant

[maiden sphinx]

enable dump lut shaders, restart the game and load back in. if a lutbuilder is found, you'll get a "renodx" folder where you installed reshade; you'll want to share the file(s) that's in there

[carmine ice]

Thanks for the guidance, here are the files inside the renodx folder

[ashen herald]

@elfin lance

LUT gulag now

[maiden sphinx]

[carmine ice]

that was unexpected..🫣

[maiden sphinx]

for now you'll have to wait till those get fixed up and put into a new build

[carmine ice]

no problem, thanks for taking a look!

[elfin lance]

what game is that

ohh Like a Dragon: Ishin

nice find

I'll fix them up in a bit

[elfin lance]

I was considering setting the slider's minimum to 4; right now its 1 -- I guess he manually input 0

[elfin lance]

@tired mulch 65+ (which the slider defaults to) should have no visual difference between regular ue and white clip

[elfin lance]

I guess theres also this

[elfin lance]

@carmine ice @pliant sail I fixed the shaders, please give them a go and tell me if they work so I can commit them

delete the old unreal engine mod, and replace it with this

you might need to enable b8g8r8a8_typless and/or r10g10b10a2_unorm output size upgrades

[frigid condor]

does that only work for unreal engine 5, i tested it with Batora and Godless, both UE4 and it doesnt work

*Godfall

[elfin lance]

works for 4 and 5

might be missing shaders for that game

[frigid condor]

let me double check FIST, i had an earlier one work on that, and its UE5

[elfin lance]

if you move the blowout slider to 100; does it change the game to black and white

UE5 games sometimes need a scene change to apply sliders (loading a save)

if the game turns black and white, that means the shaders are there; and you just need to upgrade resources

[frigid condor]

i tested multiple sliders and nothing works, but things like Levels and DPX work fine

[elfin lance]

usually just B8G8R8A8_Typeless and/or R10G10B10A2_unorm output size

dpx? levels?

[frigid condor]

the standard reshade shaders

vs Reno DX which isnt workin

[elfin lance]

well these arent reshade fx

[frigid condor]

but i have it going thru ReShade

just sayin somethin is workin

it works on FIST

just not those other two games

think there is an issue with it workin on UE4 games

[maiden sphinx]

ReShade fx are shaders that apply on top of the already-rendered image so they'll almost always work

RenoDX is an add-on that rewrites the shaders from the game's engine itself, so it doesn't always work ootb

That's where you need to select upgrades or dump lut shaders in the event the game is clamping to SDR and/or sliders aren't working

[frigid condor]

can you please simplify what you mean by upgrade or dump lut shaders, i tried it solo without any other shaders enabled in reshade and there was no change

everything else you stated i was already aware of,, just uncertain what action i need to perform in terms of upgrade or dump

[neat pulsar]

If it helps, I have a video of myself working on it live when I was getting Marat’s help with Deadzone: Rogue

[frigid condor]

sure thank you

[neat pulsar]

@frigid condor no prob. I have timestamps there too; thought it would be helpful for others for the Unreal Engine games:

HDR in Deadzone: Rogue is INTENSE!
https://youtu.be/e2CDRv_J1SM

[tight acorn]

Psychonaut 2 works ootb with this

[elfin lance]

@neat pulsar when capturing sdr; dont just capture the game in sdr mode -- windows will grief it + whatever the media player does + editing software opening sdr content

do 203 nit sdr in hdr

you can do that with renodx set to vanilla [vanilla is sdr]

that way its an hdr output displaying sdr

so it records better

[neat pulsar]

Hmm I don’t recall having OBS in sdr.. I thought it captured in P010 and PQ from the desktop capture; when I brought it into the editor it retained that data, or do I thought

I’ll keep that in mind for future recording for sure

[pliant sail]

Nice. There seem to be no problems. And everything works without upgrades.

[elfin lance]

now I just need the other guy to test isshin

and off to github

[neat pulsar]

Makes sense; will make that adjustment moving forward. Just wrapped my head around where that fell off

[frigid condor]

thanks again for the video, i watched it and made note of the part where you had changed reno dx to dump the lut shaders; but then i came back and watched it now to see that the video doesnt actually show the process for this, you start the video after already selecting dump lut shaders, but actually Marat gave you a new addon with the lut shaders in it already, so this is where i am stuck and the video only really shows to get an addon with the lut shaders from Marat and im rather certain that's not how things work around here

i selected to dump the lut shaders, but im not finding any dumped lut shaders in the game directory where i have reshade and reno dx including looking in those folders

[maiden sphinx]

The game might have compute lut shaders which don’t get dumped by RenoDX. Try turning on “upgrade copy destinations” and see if that unclamps and/or makes the sliders work

[carmine ice]

Just did a quick test before work and its working, the sliders make changes, the blowout at 100 makes it black and white

[frigid condor]

figured it out, altho its not workin as good as on FIST using UE5, thanks for the help

[maiden sphinx]

What did you do to get it working (so we can add it to the wiki)?

[tight acorn]

is it normal on my end all upgrades are off ?

[elfin lance]

pretty much how it works

if a game is missing shaders, you post them here and hope a modder fixs them for you

or just learn to fix the shaders yourself, thats always an option too

[elfin lance]

@tight acorn delete reshade.ini; sometimes when reshade.ini exists it doesnt write the defaults

or you have the game on gamepass/epic and its a diff exe name

[tight acorn]

steam but since first time it didn't

i applied them mannually

hdr worked anywayz

[carmine ice]

Now that it works, how do I actually make have the hdr look? what should I be looking for?

does that look right? I mean the stats?

[bold gulch]

yes

[carmine ice]

thanks

[elfin lance]

looks good, now just play the game

@carmine ice if you find an area or time of day where hdr doesnt work, re-enable dump lutbuilders and ping me; I'd be shocked if Ishin is only 3 lutbuilders

[elfin lance]

either way now we're waiting for shortfuse to merge the lutbuilders; and then we can add the games to the wiki

[neat pulsar]

Yea, didn’t know how helpful the directory itself would be in that part since it changes up per game. But yea, it’s just a matter of turning on the dump lut in the advanced menu in the renodx tab in Reshade and then playing the game and eventually the renodx folder appears with the .cso files there to add here and wait for them to be worked on or do yourself but I’m working on learning that part so I can contribute directly too.

[shy lance]

Hello guys I'm trying the unreal addon on Thymesia but the moment I put it on the game folder it crashes when I open it and I cannot change the thing it says on wiki (Upgrade B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS). Anyone knows a solution for this?

[elfin lance]

thymesia works just fine

just upgrade bgr8 typeless and maybe rgb10a2 unorm

[elfin lance]

here are pics

you have to set simple to advanced ontp

to see the sliders

[shy lance]

I get it but the game insta crashes after the initial credits (picture error). It only happens the moment I add the unreal addon to the game folder. I cannot change parameters on reshade because it crashes the moment I press a key.

[elfin lance]

did you get the latest version of the addon

from the website

also are you using any other mods?

I can play thymesia just fine

https://clshortfuse.github.io/renodx/renodx-unrealengine.addon64

try replacing your addon with that

[shy lance]

Yep, I tried with your version and same error. No more mods. I tried installing on another drive but same error. Will try few things more.

Thanks for the help

[elfin lance]

try this

put this in the win64 folder

btw what folder are you putting the mods in

\Thymesia\PlagueProject\Binaries\Win64 I hope

put that dxgi.dll + https://clshortfuse.github.io/renodx/renodx-unrealengine.addon64 inside of

\Thymesia\PlagueProject\Binaries\Win64

if you have files in the game's root directory; delete them

[shy lance]

I tried all this with a fresh install and same error all the time. No worries man, I appreciate the help a lot. I will live without it haha

[elfin lance]

send reshade.log @shy lance

also do you have any nvidia control panel tweaks

[shy lance]

I have an 9070 XT so no nvidia things

[elfin lance]

interesting amd

open reshade.ini

ohh

disable the steam overlay

and any other overlay

but for now you can open reshade.ini

there is a [renodx]

set Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS=1 and Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_UNORM=1

tell me if that fixs it

but I think the steam overlay might be griefing you @shy lance -- worth disabling; and trying out manually upgrading in reshade.ini with the settings I shared above

it seems to crash right on shader replacement which is interesting

also just for fun, try running the game as dx11

add -d3d11 to the launch arguments

in steam

[shy lance]

overlays off same problem

[elfin lance]

amd runs into weird issues sometimes

[shy lance]

my reshade.ini only has this lines

[ADDON]
DisabledAddons=Effect Runtime Sync,Generic Depth

[elfin lance]

interesting

add this to it

[shy lance]

using your dxgi and the addon

[elfin lance]

[renodx]
DumpLUTShaders=0
ForceBorderless=1
PreventFullscreen=1
SettingsMode=2
Upgrade_B10G10R10A2_UNORM=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS=1
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_UNORM=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_UNORM_SRGB=0
Upgrade_CopyDestinations=0
Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_UNORM=1
Upgrade_R11G11B10_FLOAT=0
Upgrade_R16G16B16A16_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_SNORM=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_UNORM=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_UNORM_SRGB=0
Upgrade_SwapChainCompatibility=0
Upgrade_UseSCRGB=0

yea my dxi and the link to the addon

but before you add anything

try dx11 mode

[shy lance]

will try dx11

I tried and IT WORKS!

[elfin lance]

@spare bane might be some sort of amd memes

[elfin lance]

dx12; ue4 -- AMD 9070 XT

crash on shader replacement [pixel shader]

[spare bane]

probably the size thing

[elfin lance]

yea thats what came to mind

[shy lance]

the only weird thing is text on loading screen loads as cubes at first but the rest is fine

[elfin lance]

probably worth wrapping it in vendor id -- but that will grief UE5 games

[elfin lance]

yea thats another thing I keep forgetting about

proxy shader revert state

[shy lance]

and fps are not as stable as on dx12 but not bad at all

[elfin lance]

we dont really have a lot of people on AMD setups

so yea

[shy lance]

yep we have to discover new things all the time haha

anyway thanks for the help

at the end it only was changing to dx 11😆

[elfin lance]

did you play any other dx12 games

with the unreal mod

like newer UE5 games

[shy lance]

yep remnant 2

[elfin lance]

that worked just fine?

[shy lance]

no problem with the wiki things

[elfin lance]

interesting

[shy lance]

only flickering with FG but must be normal

[elfin lance]

yea thats just a mod thing

[shy lance]

will try more U5 games to see

[elfin lance]

try something like modern

like clair obscur

[shy lance]

I forgot expedition 33

i played 60 hours gamepass version with mod and optiscaler for fsr4

no problem

[elfin lance]

we got whiteclip merged

[heady notch]

as an AMD user myself I think the Addon works best with UE5, got some trouble with UE4 games, had to fiddle some stuff, turn off some settings

[carmine ice]

sure, judging from the other games in the series there should be an evening and night scene, will let you know

[austere pike]

@elfin lance not sure if you remember me saying the NIKKE stuff in SB being broken in 21:9, but yeah output ratio doesn't work either

[unkempt spade]

So.. if it's like a new game, or like an indie game on UE5.. what resource upgrades you guys recommend just trying?

[heady notch]

In the UE addon, if the nits in a game are locked at 203 what of the multiple settings do i need to activate?

google gemini gave me the answer

Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_UNORM=1 seems to work

but the game is capped at 500 nits

[spare bane]

if it's not working it's custom UE

[heady notch]

Game is Robocop BTW

[spare bane]

and custom means the game could have done whatever

if it's a japanese game, sometimes it's bgra8u

i think robocop was really buggy last we tried, but i don't have the game to test

[heady notch]

Shoudl have searched before #🧩renodx-dev message

apparently the game is indeed capped at 500 nits

should still be better than SDR

[elfin lance]

robocop t has 3 shaders trhat come after the sample shader

I can return the sampled color

and it works just fine

but I dont know what effects are getting skipped

[elfin lance]

@austere pike try upgrading everything

and see if stuff breaks

[elfin lance]

this probably confirms the 20 fix only works on intel

on AMD they can play dx12 UE5 games and DX11 UE4 games; but DX12 ue4 is rip

[austere pike]

Ratio still?

[elfin lance]

no

third setting

after ratio is all

dont upgrade all the resources

[austere pike]

Aaah like that

[elfin lance]

actually

maybe

try upgrading all the things to output size first

every single one

and if that fixs it; start going bakcwards and see what upgrade fixs it

if not; revert to defaults and set it to upgrade all

[austere pike]

well I tried upgrade all and that breaks stuff

I'll do all output size and go backwards

[spare bane]

interesting... using dlss hooks to, instead of sending dlss the cloned textures, clone based on dlss saying it's the game render

[elfin lance]

figured

wait

if you go into the nikki minigame

does it work?

[austere pike]

I can try. The whole UI was broken as well, so I just exited out of the game. Let me check

[elfin lance]

also by upgrade all

are you everything every slider

or just bgr8 typeless and rgb10

[spare bane]

just set everything that was by output size to output ratio

[elfin lance]

didnt work

[austere pike]

upgrade all was just bgr8 typeless and rgb10

[spare bane]

hmm actually, yeah

[elfin lance]

does the minigame work?

maybe the minigame needs bgr8 unorm or rgb10 or whatever

on 16:9 no problems

[austere pike]

will check in a bit

[spare bane]

probably need 16:9 always and also output size

[elfin lance]

I was thinking of a setting that always upgrades 16:9 stuff even on 21:9 displays

because output size 21:9 doesnt help if the game is rendering shit in 16:9 still

[austere pike]

sorry it takes a while to test since I need to push a yellow box every time to access the minigame I have left lmao

testing upgrade all on bgr8 typeless and rgb10 now

[elfin lance]

so what was this?

just every slider?

[austere pike]

no "breaks stuff" as in holes in the world. Didn't actually try the minigame earlier

tried it now, and it works with bgr8 typeless and rgb10 set to upgrade all

but the game otherwise is utterly broken

the forced 16:9 in the minigame is fine tho

@elfin lance I don't really mind going into 16:9 mode for just the minigame tho, but if it's an easy fix then go for it

[elfin lance]

copy

try upgrading

b8g8r8a8_unorm output ratiop

[austere pike]

same result

jesus no, I set it to size. Give me a sec

b8g8r8a8_unorm output ratio does not work. This was with everything else set to default

gotta go bedge, but if there's something else I should try upgrading let me know and I'll try tomorrow

[elfin lance]

all good

[elfin lance]

whiteclip 65 vs. 10

shortfuse mentioned most games dont really get graded above 2000 or even 4000 nits; so whiteclip 10/20 might come in clutch

[dreamy socket]

any special settings for satisfactory?

[elfin lance]

just enjoy

[elfin lance]

you guys should really try out 15/20 whiteclip in the latest unreal mod

its good stuff

[heady notch]

I gave up TBH, game would crash whenever he wanted

would do a section, arrive at point A and it would crash. Reload, would pass point A and crash at point B

no consistency, just vibes

[elfin lance]

yea I ran into crashing issues too

only with robocop

[heady notch]

I do think that renox was the cause though. becasue after I removed it I played for like 2 hours without problems

[elfin lance]

yea something is cursed in robocop, idk what

[whole tulip]

In Drive Beyond Horizons the Brightness stays clamped at 203. I can lower the peak brightness bit not raise it. Is there something that can be done about it?

[tired mulch]

Dump lut shaders?

[tacit vale]

The Midnight Walk works with R10G10B10A2_UNORM (output size) when you get in-game.

[tacit flint]

heya, do we have good stellar blade reno already/

[ashen herald]

https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1378128119160115232 look at pins

Chrono Odyssey has finished installing

time to check for dat HDR

[tacit flint]

appreciated

[ashen herald]

Hmm, some people are able to get into the main menu to change settings. I just get kicked out of the game on start up

[carmine ice]

Hey @elfin lance , i think hdr stops working when chopping wood, I've enabled "dump lut shaders" and restarted the game but no lutbuilders appear in the renodx folder.

[viscid mirage]

try upgrading B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS

[carmine ice]

thanks, that worked!

[north kindle]

Hey good morning guys
Trying to run UE addon in THPS1+2 and it mostly works with every upgrade set to Output/Ratio, but the Tonemap sliders aren't doing anything

I have HDR OFF (as I assume it should be?), did I miss something in the setup?
Thanks

[elfin lance]

keep that in mind for whenever shortfuse merges the lutbuilders

[ashen herald]

Going to test Chrono Odyssey now

Anti cheat might be a pita

[carmine ice]

Got one more place were hdr doesn't work, I've also enabled R10G10B10A2_unorm

no lutbuilders

nevermind, there's two

[ashen herald]

Nvm game is straight ass

Perf is straight ass even on a 5090, no DLSS or FG options included

MMOs are never beating the allegations

[austere pike]

So the new white clip slider. Is moving the slider down until I see highlights pop slightly a correct way to use it?

Currently using 400nits and the highlights start popping around white clip 5

[fiery dust]

hey, does this work with Lies of P?

[maiden sphinx]

Yes

[dark mural]

Still Wakes the Deep
Disable in game HDR
R10G10B10A2_UNORM to output size
Upgrade B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS (first tried Output Size but I think I got the LUT dump file with Output Ratio)
Dump LUT shaders on

[latent patio]

What do i do to get RenoDX to work on Jedi Fallen order?

[elfin lance]

I'll fix them up in a bit

@viscid mirage @glossy valve we should make a list of popular UE games where lutbuilders are already fixed; and add them to addon.cpp to auto upgrade

I added a few like expedition33, stellar blade, maybe I'll add LAD Ishin

I'm having mental block when it comes to popular games

[elfin lance]

ngl I have no idea whats going on here

it might've been a native hdr lutbuilder dumped accidently

if its a new UE game, you might need to have the scene re-draw; like load a save for the sliders to apply @dark mural

@carmine ice here is the mod with the new builders; please let me know if it works

[fathom rapids]

I noticed with lies of P you need to use R10G10B10A2_UNORM (Output Size) or you get a black screen.

[elfin lance]

yep

its like that in every game with upscaling

[fathom rapids]

it was more because the wiki says use B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS, should I use both.

[elfin lance]

yea

wiki needs updating!

[fathom rapids]

Why did it change, does it change when the game gets updated.

[elfin lance]

no idea; I didnt add lies of p

it probably always needed rgb10a2 upgrades

or rgb10a2 wasnt added because the first line on the wiki is

"IF YOU GET A BLACK SCREEN, UPGRADE RGB10A2"

[fathom rapids]

derp so it does, I need to learn to read.

[elfin lance]

d.w I do too

lies of p should be in the addon for auto ugprades

mind setting reshade.log

so I can get lies of p's product name

[glossy valve]

That sounds tedious 😅

[elfin lance]

not all of them

just like a half dozen "big games"

like lies of P

stuff people care about you know

[fathom rapids]

sure but I'm using SK if that matters.

[elfin lance]

that shouldn't matter

reshade.log pls

[elfin lance]

23:07:45:968 [29484] | INFO | [RenoDX] No default settings for LOP-Win64-Shipping.exe (Lies of P) Lies of P is the product name

this is all I needed thank you

so the game just needs BGR8_typless + RGB10 output size?

[viscid mirage]

yea same ^^

I feel like there should be an automated way of adding the upgrades from the wiki at some point

[elfin lance]

I just want to add some popular games

I'll add them myself

just need names

[drifting field]

I read that the reshade API has a way to report the games executable's name?

Couldn't that be used?

[dense jay]

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_that_use_Unreal_Engine_4

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_that_use_Unreal_Engine_5

[elfin lance]

we already use the exe name/product name

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/17efaa03f310c50be7a70ca958e73c501b505dbc/src/games/unrealengine/addon.cpp#L466

I just want to add a few popular games; but outside of Lies of P and stellar blade; idk whats popular in the UE world rn

[carmine ice]

https://steamdb.info/stats/trendingfollowers/ check the trending in steamdb, if you open the game there's a technologies row showing you the engine used

[elfin lance]

did the new addon fix that scene?

[carmine ice]

Haven't had the chance to try it yet:/ will let you know asap

[elfin lance]

as long asthose are the right lutbuilders; it should work just fine

[carmine ice]

is there a chance they're not?

[elfin lance]

nope

if the addon dumped them

they're the ones used + missing

the addon does not dump shaders it already has in it

[carmine ice]

tbh at some point I uprgaded all resources to see what would happened, not sure if they're dumped then and if it caused them to be wrong or smth

[elfin lance]

you dontwant to upgrade everything

just the "minimum"

[carmine ice]

Yea I was just messing around

[elfin lance]

is it gud?

Lies of P -- b8g8r8a8 typeless + rgb10a2

Like a Dragon: Ishin! -- b8g8r8a8 typeless + rgb10a2

[elfin lance]

@spare bane could we have hit some sort of shader replacement upper limit?

I added 2 fixed lutbuilders to LAD Ishin (dx12, ue 4.27)

I get a griefed game; regardless if the new lutbuilders are in use or not

upgrades dont change anything

[brightness warning]

at first I thought it might be cbuffer slot, but its dx12 so cb50 should be fine?

commit: https://github.com/marat569/renodx/commit/4f2377d72912ab1c2a7d4d786d6098662efe6c56

double checked lutbuilders; they're fine -- but they're not the issue since even in areas they're not used stuff is griefed

if I use another build of unreal engine that is literally identical, but doesnt have those 2 lutbuilders; it works just fine

just for memes I threw the addon into sand land; so I know there is no lutbuilder overlap; and its griefed

let me sanity check with a clean compile

seems to have been a issue with cmake configure

I did a clean compile and everything works as expected

@carmine ice use this for now until new lutbuilders merged

either I had 2 vscodes open; or something changed regarding cmake configure with the new versioning stuff

sorry for the ping, was just a weird issue

I noticed weird stuff with cmake configure recently, and it not seeing if shaders where changed

[drifting field]

Wuwa rgba problem 👀

[elfin lance]

?

[drifting field]

oh now it's automatic?

[spare bane]

Yes. That means it's the default setting under Advanced and will boot with that first time

[drifting field]

Really nice

[carmine ice]

Sorry for the late reply, it's seem hdr is now working for that scene as well 🙂

[carmine ice]

I've also noticed that the thumbnails are black when saving the game with renodx enabled but I don't suppose anything can be done for those

[tough sand]

Is there a renodx mod for final fantasy rebirth?

[tired mulch]

Check the wiki

[elfin lance]

pog nwo we need shortfuse to merge

[finite basalt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1lgti1h/psa_forced_anisotropic_filtering_does_not_work_on/

oh look, 50 series breaks forcing 16x AF for any game without mipmaps :(

that explains a lot

[left lantern]

hello for some reason when I try and play lies of p using the unreal hdr mod it turns the game into black and white lol

i play on steam deck if that's useful to anyone

tried the same mod with crash bandicoot 4 and that works fine

[elfin lance]

is blowout set to 100?

or saturation set to 0?

click the "reset settings" button in the addon

reset all or something along those lines

[left lantern]

ah i see, yes blowout was set to 100 lol

what are the ideal settings for this btw

[elfin lance]

just leave everything at default and enjoy

[left lantern]

right ok thanks for your help!

[stoic agate]

general question, because I'm clueless - how does one work out what to upgrade (and to what size) if a game isn't listed? i.e. terminator, i just tested each setting until i got rid of banding in the sky - is there a "correct/proper" way to do it?

[elfin lance]

the first thing you want to do is set blowout to 100

if the game turns black and white that means the unreal mod has the shader, and you just need to upgrade resources

if the mod has the shader, usually b8g8r8a8_tyleless outputsize upgrades are all you need

but other popular ones are r10g10b10a2_unorm

[latent patio]

what do i do with the lutbuilder file

[bold gulch]

Post it here and someone will add it to the mod

[latent patio]

This was for StarWars Jedi Fallen Order

Any more info?

[elfin lance]

I'll get to it tomorrow

but yea always post all lutbuilders here

except native hdr lutbuilders, we dont need those

[carmine ice]

I have a scene were even though renodx sliders seems to be working it's very dark and there's no contrast in highlights

[maiden sphinx]

@elfin lance Wanted: Dead lutbuilders

[earnest bolt]

that's a lot of upgrades turned on and some weird settings

reset the settings, turn on dump lut then share it

[maiden sphinx]

same folder as wherever you installed reshade for the game

no

it doesn't dump compute shaders though

[elfin lance]

send reshade.log

compute shaders are rare

the game might just be on UE 5.3+; so sliders dont apply in real time

the ue mod has all the shaders for the game

set blowout to 100

and restart the game

if its black and white, that means everything works

and sliders just need a scene change (what that means depends on the game) to apply

[earnest bolt]

Same place as addon in a folder called renodx iirc

[elfin lance]

did you restart the game

close it and open it

go in game, you might be in a UI

also the game uses pixel shaders; so dump lutbuilders will spit out anything it needs

you upgraded everything

ofc it will be broken

yea lol

any size = bad

you dont even need to upgrade b10g10r10a2_unorm

disable all upgrades except B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS, output size -- and R10G10B10A2_UNORM -- output size

output size not ratio

also dont upgrade r11g11b10 float

[maiden sphinx]

works fine for me with just rgb10a2 unorm output size

[elfin lance]

rip

yea some newer games might not need b8g8r8a8_typeless

[elfin lance]

even movies?

[elfin lance]

I'll fix these when I wake up

also you dont need upgrade copy destinations most of the time

stellar blade needs it because it has uavs/compute shaders for stuff

the less stuff you upgrade the better really

[maiden sphinx]

yup opening fmv and first in-game cutscene play no problem

[elfin lance]

pmox is upgrading too much then

pog

enjoy

also diasble dump lutbuilders [and restart the game]

those grief fps hardcore, esp in dx12

you have flare set to 50

which makes everything darker

default flare is 0

click the "reset all" button, enable R10G10B10A2_UNORM output size upgrades, restart the game, enjoy

did you restart the game after?

UE5 games dont apply sliders in real time

you might need to load a save file

or open/close your inventory

to make the lut re-spawn

yes

even game nits

usually games have a trick like pressing esc twice

but what it is depends on the game

[left lantern]

my settings for lies of p, are they correct?

[fallow mica]

forcing af always broke some games for me in the past so i never did that again

[tight acorn]

is there a faster way to test upgrades than restarting the game each time ?

@elfin lance can u check this mrat

it's for grounded

[tired mulch]

restart faster

SK got that restart button so I just use that

[neat pulsar]

So with The Alters I downloaded the latest renodx and grabbed Reshade 6.5.1 and it is working out of the box, but when using lilium’s hdr analysis tool the waveform is grayed out instead of the usual showing color differences. It is picking up on HDR10, but is this just a change from the new update or something else up?

Also using the tone mapper RenoDRT on the Home Screen produces black bars that aren’t there during gameplay oddly enough.

[hexed crag]

the waveform has been changed in the new update

[grave pond]

several people have reported the black bars, I haven't seen any solutions noted

[neat pulsar]

ah, thanks. let me go check that out; I just installed from reshade

[neat pulsar]

Thanks. So far I've only seen the issue there, but was curious if it was just me being on an old driver or something.

[elfin lance]

Grounded

[elfin lance]

Wanted: Dead lutbuilders

[elfin lance]

StarWars Jedi Fallen Order

[elfin lance]

@latent patio @maiden sphinx @tight acorn

the star wars jedi fallen order lutbuilder was a weird one, couldn't fix (might've been a native hdr lutbuilder)

but I fixed the grounded and wanted lutbuilders; please let me know if it works

one of the wanted lutbuilders looked like a native hdr lutbuilder btw; so I only fixed 2/3

sometimes games ship extra lutbuilders either from their console port version or idk

like returnal had 2 lutbuilders, but 1 was super weird -- and unused

[tight acorn]

ty lad lemme try

[bold gulch]

Dead island 2 has 2 lut builders but one is only used in the hdr calibration menu

[elfin lance]

is it a standard lutbuilder

because the one in returnal was like super cut down

like some sort of console optimization

also the game has no hdr calibration

[bold gulch]

Ya I think so

[elfin lance]

if it was standard it would be a ez fix

the ones I dont fix are like weird "custom" lutbuilders

with no output device branch

etc

[tight acorn]

yo it works

it's hdry

ty marat

[elfin lance]

off to github, the other 2 lutbuilders are standard so

no reason they shouldn't work

np

[tight acorn]

@astral relic

idk if ur still interested

but with the lutbuilder added grounded has hdr

[elfin lance]

remember to share if upgrades are needded

[tight acorn]

doesn't seem to need upgrades

it just works

as far as i can tell

[elfin lance]

sometimes an effect plays

in games

and then you need bgr8 upgrades

like here

[elfin lance]

...

the game works without upgrades, but sometimes the odd effect plays and without bgr8 typeless it clips to sdr

[tight acorn]

i c

i'm not gonna play the game yet yet so i would tell later

[elfin lance]

add it to the wiki

I played LAD Ishin with SK HDR

so many games I could've enjoyed with gud hdr

that are forever lost

[astral relic]

👍

[spare bane]

Jedi fallen order and survivor are really custom. Uses an arri lut and arri wide color space. Won't be an easy fix

[elfin lance]

ah makes sense

the games in the PR are solid

no starwars builders; only builders for games that work

[latent patio]

Yeah your im sure youre right ill hop on try it again

[elfin lance]

that version does nothing for you

didnt add the starwars lutbuilders

only Grounded and Wanted

I just pinged you to tell you that starwars isnt added

[latent patio]

havent tried it just saw ur message

[latent patio]

I ment that I think it is a native lutbuilder. I had native on by actcident when it was created

[elfin lance]

doesnt matter if they have a normal lutbuilder

that game needs its own per game mod

since they arnt a generic unreal game

they do a ton of custom stuff

[latent patio]

gotcha

not sure why but sdr color wise looks nicer

[maiden sphinx]

wanted dead works but looks griefed unless scene grading strength is 0

scene grading strength 100 / scene grading strength 0

[elfin lance]

fuck did I break something

can you try disabling AA

honestly I have no idea

I looked over the lutbuilders, every color seem to be right

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/commit/390be8744eed34fc47904702abbfb0708c448964

if scene grading is greifing, that probably means one of the colors I found later on is wrong; but I dont see anything wrong

try upgrading bgr8 typless?

@maiden sphinx

also did you delete the old unreal engine addon, and only use ue-dev?

[maiden sphinx]

yeah only using dev, upgrades didn't change anything

seems like the in-game fog setting makes it worse the lower i go

fog low / fog medium; going any higher doesn't change anything

[elfin lance]

no idea

I fixd the lutbuilder the same as I'd fix any other lutbuilder

[maiden sphinx]

weirdge

[elfin lance]

these are the csos -- one of them was a weirdge one; so I only fixed 2

I looked over the commit twice; the colors seem fine

the fact that scene grading 0 works

but the rest doesnt

means it might be a decomp error?

or the game is doing something weird

if grading strength 0 works, that means all the code up to untonemappedap1 is good

so something got griefed along the way

its 2$ for a key, I'll buy it and mess around with it sometime in the near future

vanilla looks normal, so thje lutbuilder probably ecompiled fine

yep if its not strength100, its rip

0x94d68746 is the shader getting replaced in the main menu

wait no

did they miss a exp2?

shader decompiles as

  r2.xyz = log2(r2.xyz);
  r2.xyz = cb0[27].yyy * r2.xyz;
  if (cb0[66].z == 0) {

the decompiler missed r2.xyz = exp2(r2.xyz);

what a weird decompiler bug

adding exp2 fixs renodrt; but breaks vanilla; guess I'll add it to the if statement

vanilla -- renodrt

@maiden sphinx fixed it

vanilla -- renodrt

honestly the wierdest thing I've saw since I've started fixing UE

[carmine ice]

Don't worry, I'll experience renodx hdr for you

[elfin lance]

[carmine ice]

speaking of, I got one scene were renodx is enabled but it's dark and the highlights dull, would you know why?

[carmine ice]

this scene

[elfin lance]

might just be a dimm scene

sometimes games dont get that bright

[carmine ice]

mm, it's outside, and the outside in the rest of the game is a lot more bright

[elfin lance]

I mean if the lutbuilder is replaced, that means the games colors arnt geting bright

because of "artistic intent"

if untonemapped isnt bright, reno wont be bright

(unless you crank up highlights or reduce whiteclip)

[carmine ice]

i guess I can compare with renodx off and see if it was intended

[elfin lance]

just set it to vanilla

if you set the tonemapper to vanilla

no reno code runs

[carmine ice]

oh yeah true, will try that

yeah so it's really just darker there

[elfin lance]

I remember some areas having weird lighting when I played so

just assume that was RGG's vision

[carmine ice]

No kidding, will take this over pirate yakuza oversaturated colors every time

[elfin lance]

I made a simple mod for pirates/infinite wealth/gaiden that helps with that

[carmine ice]

Yeah cheers for that, I used the mod to play it 🤗

[elfin lance]

I still have to play pirates

[carmine ice]

there's zero character development for Majima but it's a fun little game

[elfin lance]

yea thats all I want from it

just a fun action combat game

I didnt expect any deep lore from it

just funny eyepatch man

[carmine ice]

definitely, and they succeeded at that

there's some samey stuff form infinite wealth but it's still fun

and the ship wars thingy is cool

go go play the game goo

[elfin lance]

I have to finish gooner blade

and then raidou

[carmine ice]

oh ok, take your time then

[elfin lance]

and then a new game I want to mod will come out

and then the timeline gets fucked up

[carmine ice]

whatever you do, stranger that heaven will take precedence I hope

when it comes out

I mean modding it, so I can play it in true HDR

[elfin lance]

in 20 years when it comes out maybe

[carmine ice]

Nah, i feel it’s going to be soon

[clear dagger]

i thought these were meant to be there, never played it without RDX installed

[honest elbow]

Does the latest snapshot work with Still Wakes the Deep? Anyone tried it?

[spare bane]

one of the lutbuilders hasn't been modded yet #1321685184852135967 message

[elfin lance]

I looked into it when it was posted last week or so; and its either the native hdr lutbuilder, some cursed shit that came from the game's shader compilation, or something custom

[dark mural]

I continued trying stuff on Still Wakes the Deep but no success - it is UE 5.3.... I waited for a scene change, checkpoint restart and went to main menu and back to game but no luck. And got that same lut again - thanks for trying

[elfin lance]

@dark mural send reshade.log

[elfin lance]

15:31:49:540 [ 1992] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::BuildReplacementPipeline(Replacing 0x08b5389e)

the shaders seem to be in the mod

probably just no realtime sliders

set blowout to 100 and restart the game, tell me if its black and white

[dark mural]

I tried that - to be honest it looks the same to me with reno and with native HDR - just the HDR analysis tool limited to 250
and I tried that, will trying again for science

[elfin lance]

if its black and white, that means the mod works; and might just be an upgrade issue

remember to try "upgrade copy destinations"

[dark mural]

does the window mode in game and in the mod affect something?

[elfin lance]

not usually

you want the game res = scren res

but if its true window mode that might be fine

sometimes ultrawide has issues

but that shouldnt matter for the blowout slider

thats only for resource upgrades

[dark mural]

ok - cause I am using windowed mode in game and the force borderless in mod, this game has better perf that way

[elfin lance]

as long as the window is your native res

[dark mural]

but I think it is the same file as before

[elfin lance]

you're not answering my question

after you set blowout to 100 and restarted the game

did the game become black and white

[dark mural]

forgot to answer, yes just tried that, blowout on 100 does not set everything black and white

[elfin lance]

you turned the game off and on

and did you get in game or jus ta main menu

lots of games have fmvs for main menus

[dark mural]

in game

[elfin lance]

but yea thats the same shader as last time

so yea the game seems to be missing a shader; and it might be using compute shaders; no idea

dont own the game os cant tell

[dark mural]

at least we tried, thanks

[jovial trout]

Wouldn't have guessed it but Metro Gravity is an unreal engine game, works with the mod. Time to add to the mod page lol

[elfin lance]

lets go

idk what that game is, but I assume 1000s of unreal games just wor

esp those that use the handful of "generic lutbuilders"

[jovial trout]

lofi indie game, would have been weird if it didn't work tbh

[elfin lance]

I noticed indie games/AA games usually only have a handful of lutbuilders

or just 1, the "generic engine lutbuilder"

like berserker khazan is 1 lutbuilder

0xc1b (sm5) is one of the generic ones

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/52291a8bdb150f259e4b882b0abf0bfbb7591348/src/games/unrealengine/lutbuilders/sm5/lutbuilder_0xC1BCC6B5.ps_5_x.hlsl#L4

for UE5 there is a ninja gaiden lutbuilder; I forget the hash but a ton of games use it

[faint cloak]

Cant change peak brightness to another nits then ui nits...

[abstract eagle]

doesn't work for me, no hdr

[tacit vale]

Are you using windowed fullscreen and loaded past main menu?

[abstract eagle]

yes, borderless and ingame

[tacit vale]

The game is also very dark so you might only see with some highlights

[abstract eagle]

updated R10G10B10A2_UNORM to output size

[tacit vale]

Might need some other upgrades idk

[abstract eagle]

I don't see the highlights, only see it with RTX HDR but the blacks are crushed

the game looks gorgeous but I want to enjoy it with good hdr

[tacit vale]

yeah idk sometime locked, sometimes doesnt...

reshade 6.5.1 and repo build of addon?

[abstract eagle]

yes

[tacit vale]

Damn i have no clue

[tacit vale]

Dump and send the lutbuilder shader here, someone might be able to help.

[abstract eagle]

where do i get the dump files ?

[tacit vale]

should be in game folder somewhere, think renodx-dev?

[abstract eagle]

they're in the log

if someone can look into it please 🙂

[tulip gazelle]

What settings do I need for lies of P?

[elfin lance]

none, it should work out of the box

[tulip gazelle]

I disabled in-game HDR but none of the sliders seem to be working

[elfin lance]

delete reshade.ini

and download a newer unreal engine mod

from the modpage

[tulip gazelle]

not the one from the pin here?

[elfin lance]

thats good too

[tulip gazelle]

trying the one from the mod page these are my setting out of the box

[elfin lance]

just make sure its new

that looks right

lies of p should just work so no idea

[tulip gazelle]

[stoic latch]

yeah, sliders don't work for me either in real time. they take effect if i reload a save though

in lies of p

[elfin lance]

I just downloaded lies of p

let me test

the default upgrades applied automatically, gud

ohh lies of p has per scene lutbuilders

thats a thing in some games

sometimes going in and out of the inventory or pause/unpause works

let me see if this game has a trick

go to characacter info and back out, and the sliders apply @tulip gazelle @stoic latch

[stoic latch]

nice. mine are mostly default so it wasn't a big deal since i knew they were applying after a load

no real need to tweak

[elfin lance]

yea its one of those things you just setup once anyway so its whatever

just a nice trick to know

going in and out of equipment works too

man the game looks great with reno

when I played it on launch, I had to use SK HDR

[tulip gazelle]

Ah there it goes

[west stump]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2149010/Little_Nightmares_Enhanced_Edition/ how about the remake

[elfin lance]

try it out

a lot of these games all use the same lutbuilders

ohh nvm its a pre-order

or is it broken?

[west stump]

i don't own it, nor have time 😄

[left lantern]

Has anyone tried out the crash bandicoot trilogy with this mod?

[elfin lance]

pre-purchase; but 40 people are playing

[west stump]

yes. It looked all right.

[elfin lance]

and there is no release-date

[west stump]

wait, not, the trilogy remake is Unity not UE.

[left lantern]

Oh right

[west stump]

Crash 4 is UE and works with the mod.

[elfin lance]

I fixed lutbuilders related to crash or spyro

dont remember which

yea so I fixed // Crash Bandicoot 4*

wait no that was shortfuse maybe

[left lantern]

I tried this one recently, looks fine but nothing special, lol

[elfin lance]

and spyro

a tonemappass unity mod is fairly straightforward; it would be at the level of UE-Generic

and something with a bit more love put in isnt that hard either

assuming they dont do anything cursed

[warped rampart]

if you preorder the 3rd game, you get an early access (of 3 months) of the enhanced version
if you don't, but already own the first game, you get the enhanced for free in october

https://fxtwitter.com/Wario64/status/1937615418132430984

Wario64 (@Wario64)

People who own Little Nightmares (2017) on PlayStation, Xbox, and PC will get a free upgrade to Little Nightmares Enhanced Edition on October 10th www.bandainamcoent.com/news/little-nightmares-3-q-and-a

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[elfin lance]

3 months early access LMAO

so what kind of game is it?

[warped rampart]

"horror" platformer from what i recall watching in a playthrough 8 years ago

[elfin lance]

rip, I hate platforming

I dont mind 2d metroidvanias

[west stump]

there's nothing platforming about this game

[elfin lance]

oh

[west stump]

it's a story mood game with some light puzzles

it's mostly going from left to right

and enjoying the creepy stuff

very good game

[elfin lance]

I apparently have #1

[west stump]

it was free

i got it too

[elfin lance]

on steam?

[west stump]

ye

[elfin lance]

makes sense, I dont remember buying it

so if I wanted to try the game out

what version would I grab?

the 3 month pre-order for the enhanced edition?

this? https://store.steampowered.com/app/2149010/Little_Nightmares_Enhanced_Edition/

wait nvm I see

getting the #3 pro-order

gives you #1 enhanced for free

well I grabbed it, if pumbo says it cool

I trust

I like trying the odd game outside of my comfort zone once in a while

I wanted to grab this during the summer sale, but it didnt go on sale as low as I wanted

https://store.steampowered.com/app/750130/The_Sinking_City_Remastered/

[earnest bolt]

Hope it works well with RenoDX

[west stump]

second one is an even better game

[pliant sail]

waiting for the release

[bitter glacier]

oh yea little nightmares is awesome!

very short but I enjoyed it a lot

especially the second one

quick question: Hellblade 1, is there a working renodx mod for that or is the default hdr good?

I saw you have to crank up HDR intensity to 10 if you want 1000 nits peak

which seems really bright

[rotund otter]

Any idea why when i use Reno this quoted text won't disappear at the start of the game?

The Alters

Very odd!

[elfin lance]

weird resource upgrade bugs

[hushed elbow]

for persona 3 reload, mod shows under construction, seems like there are some issues. Do you guys still recommend?

[ashen herald]

The issue is that the map whenever it pops in and out of view has a bright box around it

it disappears once the map is fully in view

[warped lynx]

also when character reaction portraits appear you see a green silhouette of the entire character

probably the biggest issue it has rn

[hushed elbow]

ah I see thanks, will probably stick to no HDR then sadly.

do you guys have any recommendation on the many Ambient Occlusion and GI mods by any chance?

[warped lynx]

I've played it for some hours on the deck. I didn't find the issue too distracting.

[nova bronze]

Anyone playing Jusant with the UE addon? The game crash to desktop pretty often. I haven't tried it without the addon, so not sure if it might be the culprit or not.

[tired mulch]

Whats your fix?

[nova bronze]

Dunno if it's the addon or reshade altogether, I've disabled reshade and the game runs just fine, no issues.

[tired mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

Not globally applicable to existing UE addon?

[paper zenith]

Unreal mod ok to use with Dune Awakening?

[spare bane]

easy anti cheat

[paper zenith]

ah thats true

sucks

Thanks for the info

[spare bane]

force enabled hdr seems to break some sdr color grading, unfortunately

and with no per channel correction that renodx provides, you're between ungraded ACES HDR or blownout sdr

there might be an avenue by patching the unreal shaders files directly. i don't think they're signed and i don't think EAC cares

[paper zenith]

Gotcha

[paper zenith]

Trying some of those engine.ini tweaks for hdr output lol

Crazy a 2025 game having no native hdr support

[fallow mica]

probably because of missing sdr color grading just like shortfuse mentioned

they tested UE HDR and found hdr looked wired

so they just shipped the game without HDR

[paper zenith]

Ahh that makes sense.

Perhaps thats a super stupid question but where would one go to learn more about how HDR works on a technical level? Computer science?

[fallow mica]

literally here

[brave sand]

I just checked steamdb and the game uses pak signing.
While BattleEye (the game's anti cheat) wouldn't care about us adding a new patch pak, the game won't load unsigned paks without binary patching so rip.

[nova bronze]

Do you guys have a recommendation for resource upgrade for RoboCop Rogue City? or does "it needs specific fixes" still apply? I tried the demo now with R10G10B10A2_UNORM for output size, but the output range seems to be limited to cca 500 nits.

[unborn verge]

Robocop is funky
Probably needs a game specific mod
Raising UI brightness helps to raise the peak

[elfin lance]

robocop needs a per game mod

its clamped at ~500 nits

and crashes constnatly

there are 3 shaders that come after the lutbuilder

I tried skipping the shaders, which might eb post process

it unclamps the game but

I have no idea what effect might be getting skipped -- but it looks the same

[nova bronze]

yeah, already got a crash in the demo. thanks for the info. I might get the full game just because it's 90 % off now, but maybe I'll leave it for later then. although even 500 nits would be better than no HDR, heh. but if it's crashing, that would be a no go, sadly.

[elfin lance]

the game is like 3$ on keysites

[crude storm]

When something on the wiki says upgrade so and so but no size is specified, then any works?

Like "Upgrade R8G8B8A8_Typeless" looks fairly common but some entries specify "Output Size" for example others say nothing

[elfin lance]

output size

output ratio/all isnt really needed outside of the odd game with dynamic res

[grand star]

im using renodx for lies of p. The ui brightness slider seems to brighten/dim the whole scene, not just ui. The game brightness slider doesn't appear to do anything. i have hdr turned off in game.

[empty kettle]

Happens to me too in some games

[viscid mirage]

In some games, UE5 ones especially, the shaders that we mod only run once anymore on a scene change, or with in-game settings changes

which means most of the sliders are unfortunately not realtime, except for the UI brightness slider

and the UI brightness slider will affect the entire image until that shader runs again

since both UI and game brightness counteract each other, but one of the components is just static

[empty kettle]

Ill have to test that but thanks

[quartz ember]

Lord of the fallen getting black screen mostly

ok had to actually disable in game HDR

[red marten]

why not upgrade ratio size for games that have dlss/fsr

[elfin lance]

all the post process shaders are output size with dlss

like if you open the devkit with dlss

everything torwards the end (what we care about) will be output size

[red marten]

yeah i saw it

[elfin lance]

output ratio is nice for games with dynamic res scaling; since that might actually mess with the output size

[viscid mirage]

If a game has a resolution scale with TAA(U) in UE4 then you also need to set the upgrades to output ratio

Also applies if you mod it in through engine ini

[warped lynx]

some weird stuff like ff16 might require ratio?

post processing and even fmvs scale at internal res

[bold gulch]

ff16?

[carmine ice]

@elfin lance Another one for ishin, Not sure which scene this is from so I won't be able to test it

[elfin lance]

I'll fix it in a bit

[warped lynx]

Your favorite game Final Fantasy 16

[bold gulch]

🗑️

Not unreal

[empty kettle]

Your favourite game is unreal tournament?

[bold gulch]

My favorite game is balan wonderworld

[paper zenith]

Which is less worse for Dune Awakening? Special K HDR or RTX HDR?

[empty kettle]

I dont think you can use Special K

Battleye will block it

Your options are forcing UE to output HDR or RTX HDR

[paper zenith]

Seems Special K does work

But yeah, wont risk it

[tacit vale]

FlyKnight appears at first look to just need B8 typeless upgrade to output size for unclamping, not a very flashy HDR type game but still...

[tacit vale]

Choo Choo Charles needs to be manually set as windowed fullscreen and b8_typeless output size, KLETKA seems to work OOTB but didnt see anything past about 350 nits, Murky Divers likes r10_unorm any size but it's like 30% dci-p3 without any upgrades so not 100% sure, Manor Lords seems to be fine ootb and THRESHOLD appears to need b8_typeless any size. Haven't done too much testing so would love a second or third opinion, can also dump shaders if needed.

[torpid olive]

Not sure if it's happening to anyone else but Ready or Not looks like it's just getting stuck on a black screen now when RenoDX UE is loaded as an addon

[elfin lance]

feel free to add them to the wiki fi they work

everybody can edit the wiki

[maiden sphinx]

Try upgrading R10G10B10A2_UNORM to output size

[elfin lance]

ready or not should work just fine

I added that game myself

and tested it

just need rgb10a2 output size upgraded

[brave rampart]

Crashes for me

[neon bay]

Was having the same issue but followed the steps below "just need rgb10a2 output size upgraded" and worked. Need to restart the game after the changes however

[quick sedge]

So I have DLSS FG flickering jittering in Still Wakes the Deep with the game's native HDR. The same FG flickering jittering I had in Oblivion Remastered with ini HDR enabled. I've tried different framegen versions, they all glitch in their own way. And RenoDX: UE mod doesn't seem to work properly with this game. The colors are washed out and it looks like SDR, even though I didn't forget to turn off the game's HDR. Only the UI Brightness slider works, which controls the brightness of the entire game, but it doesn't help. What else can I do except not use DLSS FG at all?

[quick sedge]

it's not like highlights flickering, it's more like stutters in different parts of the screen in motion

[empty kettle]

The fact it happens with the games native HDR screams that its NVIDIAS problem

[foggy dock]

Tring to start up System Shock Remake guide says System Shock Remake ✅ Upgrade B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS
There are three options which do I choose? Output Size, Ratio or Any?

[empty kettle]

Any

If that doesnt work try output size

[foggy dock]

Thanks

[quick sedge]

I've had this problem only with Unreal

if only RenoDX would work with this game, it might solve the issue

[viscid mirage]

Always try output size first. If that doesn't work, output ratio likely will

With Any you'll potentially end up with crashes or artifacts

[quick sedge]

Downgrading the DLSS FG to version 1.0.7 seems to have solved the stuttering and ghosting problem

it wasn't flickering, it was other glitches, I just had the same artifacts in Oblivion and that's why I thought that this was meant

[quick sedge]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/990080/discussions/0/4513254562065943148/

[empty kettle]

I mean go tell Nvidia?

Not relevant to RenoDX so not sure why youre saying it here

[ashen herald]

Oblivion flickering was due to how originally SDR to HDR path Reno worked

Transformer FG doesn't like that, it will clamp generated frames to SDR

But ShortFuse then made Reno support using Native UE HDR path

So FG issues were fixed

So Still Wakes the Deep has native HDR swapchain?

[quick sedge]

Why NVIDIA? All these games are made with Unreal, so the problem is most likely in the engine. This can possibly be solved by using RenoDX instead of native HDR, which is what we are discussing here, as well as UE with HDR itself, I guess. I asked for advice on RenoDX in a specific game, also mentioned that I had similar glitches with Oblivion Remastered using the RenoDX mod. This may be useful, considering that a solution was found

[bold gulch]

still wakes the deep has native HDR but its deep fried

the gamut expansion is awful

[ashen herald]

Rip

Is it as bad as that Dragon Ball Z game though?

The gamut on that goes weeeeee

[bold gulch]

no dbz was cause they added a bunch of custom shaders after the lutbuilder, but those were all made for SDR sRGB, but in HDR the lutbuilder outputs in PQ so they all apply in the wrong color space

[ashen herald]

Oh god

[empty kettle]

Its because of how frame gen handles HDR which is NVIDIAs issue

[quick sedge]

I haven't seen this problem in games other than UE

[earnest bolt]

does it work alright with reno?

[ashen herald]

Okay, I just watched the video link and hmm, can't say I've ever dealt with that

[dire saffron]

r.Streamline.TagUIColorAlpha 0 fixed still wakes for me back then

[ashen herald]

Then again I haven't played many games with UE native HDR

[dire saffron]

only ui was buggy

[empty kettle]

Either way, its something NVIDIA will have to fix

[ashen herald]

Bvidia has to fix everything

Including my marriage

[empty kettle]

If its UE then epic would have to fix each version and then devs would have to update games

And that aint happening lmao

[bold gulch]

haven't tried, someone was saying it wasn't working so I guess we need them to dump the lutbuilders

[quick sedge]

I also played some UE games with native HDR and DLSS FG that didn't glitch

[empty kettle]

Could be a DLSS preset difference

[ashen herald]

This is exclusive to using HDR + FG only?

[quick sedge]

yes

[ashen herald]

And you've tested various versions of FG

CNN and transformer

[quick sedge]

DLSS FG 1.0.7 solved the problem

[ashen herald]

Transformer still has the issue?

[quick sedge]

In Oblivion? I haven't tested it yet

[ashen herald]

For the game you're currently playing

Harry Potter

[empty kettle]

I have hogwarts legacy installed so i can test if needed

[ashen herald]

I'm trying to understand what FG could possibly be doing that CNN FG has that issue but an older version of CNN doesn't

Unless transformer also has that issue

In which case we'll need to ask an expert like Nukem

[quick sedge]

I'm playing Still Wakes the Deep. Just had the same problem as in this Harry Potter discussion. Because it's all UE games. There is a similar problem with Jedi Survivor.

[topaz quail]

some renodx mods have have fixes for frame gen btw

[empty kettle]

I know but its not really RenoDX related if its NVIDIA causing the issue

[earnest bolt]

ill get em

[topaz quail]

Could say the same thing about unreal engine's borked hdr. "its not really RenoDX related if its Epic causing the issue". The whole point of reno is giving hdr implementations the proper attention they deserve because most devs don't (this includes nvidia).

[empty kettle]

Does RenoDX require workarounds for it too?

[quick sedge]

Sometimes

[earnest bolt]

seems to work fine with R10G10B10A2_UNORM to output size
200 nits max tho

is ui brightness meant to raise the whole game brightness

game brightness does nothing, no luts dumped

[unborn verge]

@elfin lance It seems like I cannot update the wiki without formatting shitting itself, when you have a moment could you add Ninja Gaiden 2 Black to the list with the note: Disable in game HDR. Sliders don't update in real time.

[quick sedge]

And in what order should these Ninja Gaidens be played?

[warm flame]

Sigma for NG1 which is part of the remaster collection.

Either Black or the Xbox 360 version for NG2. The 360 is a better game mechanically while black is an upgraded sigma 2 with ability to mod to some of its issues out.

Then Razors Edge NG3 which is a part of the remaster.

[fallow mica]

doesnt really matter since they are quite different mechanically

[warm flame]

I honestly think the 360 version of NG2 is verily worth a playthrough. It's not perfect, but it has stronger fundamental in combat, has more enemies, and probably is a bit more challenging though both are tough as nails.

[fallow mica]

ng2b with mod is better than the original imo

[warm lion]

managed to do that 😄

[warm lion]

would you mind adding these ? it's the casting of frank stone 😄

[elfin lance]

1

[elfin lance]

2

[past pasture]

I never knew about the UE version until recently. I always thought what ever games were listed on the modlist were the only ones. I am trying it out on Deep Rock Galactic and man the lighting are so much better now instead of using RTX HDR. The lights are actually solid colors and no white tint/bars on them. Of course the increase on performance is a plus.

[past pasture]

I tried it just now on Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core Alpha test and it is a black screen. Changing R10G10B10A2_UNORM (Output Size) seems to work. Hopefully the alpha gets more invites later this month to actually be able to play with people 😂

[maiden sphinx]

Refunct lutbuilder @elfin lance