✅RenoDX: Unreal Engine

[elfin lance]

FXAA usually makes games 8bpc sdr

[azure stream]

okay so I come back with another weird discovery

srry

[azure stream]

so turns out if AMD FSR is set to no downscaling, the artifacting still appears, but if I set AMD FSR scale to 99%, the artifacting disappears

no downscaling

screen percentage set to 99

[tight acorn]

what's the issue with the normal mod

[tall ridge]

anyone try Hogwarts with this?

[neat pulsar]

Is there a resource on how to dump shaders in general and/or UE?

I have a game I finally want to venture into modding with or is it even necessary with UE with the pinned comment here?

[fathom rapids]

Anyone tried RenoDX UE with DQ11

[maiden sphinx]

#1321685184852135967 message

[fathom rapids]

@maiden sphinx thanks, I'll just use SK HDR then.

[daring breach]

No RenoDX mod for Stil Wakes the deep? :(

[bold gulch]

there's a generic unreal mod

requires hdr disabled in game

[daring breach]

oh nice, does it also fix the black floor?

[bold gulch]

yes

[elfin lance]

@tight acorn both clair obscur and unreal probably look similar to eachother

its just how they go about modding the game, the unreal engine mod has a lot less overhead

the unreal mod replaces 1 shader per scene, a 32x32x32 shader; 32k pixels -- and all the renodx code is in there

the clair obscur mod replaces a bunch of sample shaders that run every pixel, so at 4k you're getting the renodrt code running 8 million times per frame

I didnt run the tests, but Ritsu did in MHW; and having code only run in the lutbuilder was like +10 fps

the downside to the unreal mod is no real time sliders; you have to press start twice to have them apply -- which isnt an issue for most of us; but the people on nexus would rip their hair out because "ree too hard to use"

[iron thistle]

for DQ11S you can use Engine.ini HDR tweak with ersh fix shader

[torpid glacier]

Does renodx for unreal engine work for Final Fantasy 16 or do I need a custom addon or some other tweak for that because I didn't see it in the modlist?

[tired mulch]

FF16 doesn't use UE

[elfin lance]

FF16 isnt ureal engine

[torpid glacier]

Oh I thought it was. It kinda looked like ue4 to me. Good to know.

[torpid glacier]

Does it have a renodx btw? It does not look great tbh

[bold gulch]

One of the best looking games ever made imo

[torpid glacier]

Unfortunately I didn’t think so. The combat is amazing though. It had a weird ghosting effect going whenever I’d span the camera around. That bothered me the most.

[bold gulch]

I'm the opposite where I think the combat is ass

super basic but it has to be that way cause the particle effects are so annoying you can't see shit

[tired mulch]

real

[left zealot]

I only played the Demo of FF16 so far but the HDR was good there

[elfin lance]

combat was complete garbage in FF16

[left zealot]

Or atleast not really noticed anything bad

[elfin lance]

~40% into the game it becomes a cooldown and cutscene simulator

where you just press your ultimates in order

watch the 30 second cutscene

press the next ultimate

and repeat

and its not like you have the option to "play nomrally", because all your other abilities fall off

I did every sidequest and piece of side content in FF16

except the post game roguelite thing

the game is mid at best

is it worth playing for 20$ on sale? maybe

[left zealot]

We need Turn based combat again smh, hopefully they will reconsider their stance of "modern graphics and turn based combat don’t fit together" now that Expedition 33 proved that shit wrong

[elfin lance]

is it something special? nty

mid33 isnt that good of an example either

that game is a ton of issues too LMAO

[left zealot]

I loved it

Bros just a hater

[elfin lance]

ngl I dont hate on games, I sit through all of them

I just dont cope or simp for them

if its mid its mid

[left zealot]

It’s GOTY for me lmao

[elfin lance]

and imo expedition 33, the story is ok; but the gameplay is ass

[left zealot]

Unless something else amazing comes out

That I don’t know of yet

[tired mulch]

Not sure if E33 succeeded bc of the turn based combat

Or in spite of it

[left zealot]

You’re like the only one I know that has this stance

Combat was so fun to me

[elfin lance]

when the options are

medium: ezpz

hard: damage sponges and 1 hit mode

the balance is garbage

[left zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[elfin lance]

and its not a skill issue, I can easily parry everything thrown at me; with all my points dumped into attack

its just not fun

but I'm sitting here on hard, playing 1 hit mode

imo if they made it a proper full turn based game it would've been better

[torpid glacier]

I don’t know what you guys are talking about. I really loved combat in ff16. Maybe because I’m not particularly fond of turn based and find it boring.

[elfin lance]

nah FF16 combat was mid at best

on the lower end

did you beat the game?

because half way in you just watch skill animations

its not even combat at that point

[tired mulch]

So its turn based with extra steps

🤣

[torpid glacier]

Yes. I did. Played it again on pc for the dlcs even. Well, It’s hack and slash not a souls like

[elfin lance]

pretty much

after you slot in ~4 ultimates, you just swap -> ultimate -> swap -> ultimate -> swap -> ultimate

and everything dies

and by the time ultimate #4 is done

ultimate #1 is probably off CD

[bold gulch]

oof

timer based cooldowns suck

[ashen herald]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-kneel-aiiieee-gif-25204089

This has to be the most based thing I've heard

Right, Marat we need answers

Which game wasn't mid and had good combat in your opinion?

The human ability to have opposing opinions is interesting

There are those that swear Witcher 3 is the biggest POS around, combat is utter wank, story is mid and that there's no reason the game should be held as high as it does currently

But then their favourite game of all time is a visual novel with a few fan service waifus

[glossy valve]

I used to dislike Witcher 3 because it's combat is barebones and I used to prioritize gameplay, but saying it's story is mid is a reach

Actually maybe the main story is a bit meh, but side stuff are great

I disagree with Marat on Expedition33, I think their turn based formula is great. Each character has their own mini system, and weapons incentivize different playstyles

[elfin lance]

same

[glossy valve]

But I gotta agree on FF16, I still don't understand how people say it's combat has depth

[elfin lance]

I got bored even on the highest difficulty

[elfin lance]

so here is the deeplore

they had the DMC combat dude work on it

so when we got the teaser

that FF16 + DMC dude

we all coped

"omg FF + DMC combat"

[glossy valve]

I started asking people to stream their gameplay, I thought I played it wrong 😂

[elfin lance]

like hard cope

then the game came out on ps5

it starts off as watered DMC

but actually comboing falls off VERY fast [if you can call the bare bones system comboing]

I said 40% into the game, but I was being conservative

and slowly devolves into a cooldown simulator

like do I regret my time playing FF16? no

is it worth playing? honestly maybe

but its far from an amazing game

[glossy valve]

It arguably has the best boss sequences ever

[elfin lance]

the cutscenes with hp bars

when I first saw the kaiju fights

I was like

before the game came out, teaser stuff

"hopefully they dont ruin the combat with the kaiju stuff"

the kaiju stuff ended up being the actual cool parts

of the game

even though it was all scripted, atleast it was cool

[fathom rapids]

Looks good, I'll look into this Engine.ini HDR thing.

Got it working

[versed wagon]

any clue y my stray screenshots (taken through sk) is black with ue renodx mod?

[tall ridge]

I am not sure i'd put any story above it, maybe like cohesively it's not the best all time, but it has the best quests, sidequest/characters in all of gaming still hasn't been surpassed

with full mod support and things like W3EE mod + ultimate mod list the combat is much better too

the early bloody baron quest is like GOT tier writing (early season GOT)

[thorny silo]

could you elaborate, how to use the ersh fix shader?

[elfin lance]

@tall ridge mods overhauling a game does not make it good

skyrim has objectivly medicore combat, but 1000 mods that overhaul the combat and make it ok

does that make skyrim's combat good? no imo

[bold gulch]

Witcher 3 is Pole slop

[tall ridge]

agree wotcher 3 mods is as must have as skyrim or fallout imo though it's that much of an improvement

plus it's honestly one of the best looking ganes too with them just missing path tracing

[elfin lance]

I got bored after the red baron

and got to novagrad

[kind schooner]

with 1000 mods you get anime moves but not okay combat lul

also 1000 mods is kinda conservative for skyrim modlists

[elfin lance]

I remember when

the 900 series of gpus came out

and we got 4gb+ vram

[kind schooner]

this is something am ripping apart rn

[elfin lance]

the skyrim community went nuts

[kind schooner]

it was the shit

[elfin lance]

back then we where still on the 32 bit version

[kind schooner]

with vivid weathers enb presets

everyone was like: "omg this looks and runs so good"

[bold gulch]

There’s the idea of what Skyrim could be

And what it actually is

At the end of the day I will probably never feel satisfied playing Skyrim

Only ENB I ever liked was CFL 2 with the tetrachromatic lut

All the other ENBs looked like ass to me

[kind schooner]

they still look like ass to me

actually installed a bunch of them today and yesterday

looks like a cheap reshade preset

[unique parcel]

@elfin lance I'm pretty curious which game do you consider good or better than average

combat/gameplay wise

[elfin lance]

idk,every genre has its own

ups and downs

nioh2 is probably one of the best action games in terms of action + rpg mechanics

the story is trash, but you dont play team ninja games for the story

[unique parcel]

I agree 100%

[elfin lance]

DoS2 was one of my favorite turn based games

divinity original sin 2

I liked it more than ballsack gate

because it felt like the elemental stuff was just so much cooler

like floor effects, etc

[unique parcel]

I liked BG3 more overall but yea DoS2's "elemental combination system" was fun

[elfin lance]

I plan on restarting BG3 with @bold gulch

my og friend group got bored torwards the end of act2

and I never finished the game sadly

when it comes to simulators, arma3 all the way

for milsim and life

[unique parcel]

I think that Nier Automata has the most fluid combat ever and ofc DMC5

[elfin lance]

automata combat wasnt bad for a "story focused game"

but imo DMC5 has one of the best combat mechanics

I have over 100h in DMC5, almost all achivs

finished the bloody palace multiple times on all chars

[unique parcel]

Automata was too easy unfortunately

[elfin lance]

DMC5 isnt my favorite DMC game, but its the best DMC combat

imo the best DMC game as a full package (world, story, gameplay) woul dbe

DMC3 switch edition or DMC3 + DDMK [mod]

the switch edition lets you swap styles like DMC5

and you have access to all your weapons

like DMC5

DDMK does the same stuff

[unique parcel]

Oh yea I loved DMC3

[elfin lance]

The Evil Within 1 is an amazing game

2 is good too, but I liked 1 way more

those are all games I can safely put the "good" stamp of approval on

but these are just my preferances

[unique parcel]

both games are on my backlog haha

[elfin lance]

1 is an amazing experiance

2 some people dislike it because

1 is chapter based

2 is semi open world

and doesnt have as cool of a story/enemy design

far from a bad game

just not as good as 1 imo

when it comes to production games

factorio all the way

I still need to play space age

[unique parcel]

factorio is addicting as hell

[elfin lance]

mmorpgs oldschool goonscape

metroidvanias is hard

OG SOTN is like a staple in my book

and aria of sorrow is good too

but modern metroidvanias are hard to pick

[jovial trout]

impossible to pick a metroidvania really

[unique parcel]

Hollow Knight is the best overall imo

[elfin lance]

The Messenger was a good game

Ender Lilies

I didnt like hollow knight

didnt get into it

the badge system, etc

not saying its a bad game, I just didnt vibe with it

Tohou Luna Nights is an underrated game

[unique parcel]

I liked Blasphemous too

[jovial trout]

I like Blasphemous but I think the level design is subpar

[unique parcel]

we should move to Chat btw 😅

[jovial trout]

art carries that game imo

[unique parcel]

yea I agree

[elfin lance]

blasphamous 1 I liked

[unique parcel]

@tired mulch Hey! What are your current recommend settings for Wuwa? What should we upgrade to fix the clamping issues?

[elfin lance]

I think the big one is just

kuro tonemapping off in the ini

i dont play the game, just what people post here

[unique parcel]

that's not enough unfortunately

[elfin lance]

rip idk then

[unique parcel]

SK HDR works well enough for this game, but Reno would be nicer

[elfin lance]

[unique parcel]

the UI is way too bright with SK 😅

[elfin lance]

all ITM/AutoHDR

just the way it works

it sees white

it does maxcll

[unique parcel]

yea...

The game looks amazing with Reno btw

but every second attack is clamping the highlights to 203 nits :/

[elfin lance]

I saw somebody post that

and then spiwar replied saying he has the same settings, but everything works

are you on a non standard aspect ratio

like ultrameme

[unique parcel]

nope 16:9

[unique parcel]

it depends on the character probably

Some of the characters seem to work fine

[elfin lance]

that would be really weird, based on my basic UE knowledge

[thorny silo]

Unfortunately I think SK is best as a precision upgrader, and then using Pumbo's inverse tonemapper to have the close-to-sdr image with overbrightened bits

the perceptual boost brightens the image and sometimes the UI too much

[warped lynx]

nooo fatal fury crashes immediately

[left narwhal]

Is this crash primarily related to RenoDX UE mod?

I had that yesterday in Split Fiction, I thought it was game and not mod. But that's like 1 crash in ~10hrs of gameplay, so.

[warped lynx]

lets see

cvars work btw, but raw hdr10 ui

ok it is related to the mod

the mod instantly crashes it

[left narwhal]

It was doing that for me as well in Split Fiction, then @elfin lance fixed it for me and made it part of the main.

I think you need to give ReShade logs.

Mine was an easy fix, idk about yours. But same crash.

[warped lynx]

it instantly crashes, but yea lemme provide the log real quick

shader replace still works

ersh's ui shaders don't really work, but it should be possible to get the ui looking fine

[elfin lance]

post reshade.log with the crash

I might be able to fix it

@warped lynx

[elfin lance]

yep

ezpz give me 5 min

[warped lynx]

oh

[elfin lance]

@warped lynx use this

[warped lynx]

copy

[elfin lance]

let me know if it needs upgrades, and I'll add it to the wiki

[warped lynx]

damn

it works

what'd you do lol

[elfin lance]

add one line to addon.cpp

if (product_name == "FATAL FURY: City of the Wolves") return true;

22:04:19:501 [14936] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::BuildReplacementPipeline(Replacing 0xe3bb0c03)
22:04:19:501 [14936] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Replacing pipeline for 0xe3bb0c03, pipeline: 0x0000026ec2a99870, index: 4, type: pixel_shader, stage: pixel_shader)
22:04:19:501 [14936] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Failed to replace pipeline)

that means you need the root signature exception or else

[warped lynx]

it seems to use a custom lut

[elfin lance]

the game will rip on launch

did you remember to delete

the ini stuff

[warped lynx]

I'll try dumping luts, but I'm not holding by breath

yea

[elfin lance]

well it has a generic lutbuilder

and its a pixel shader

so dump lutbuilders should work just fine

[warped lynx]

lemme pause the game and unpause just in case

[elfin lance]

ohh yea

with these newer games

in order for sliders to work

you have to re-generate the scene

set blowout to 100

and exit to main menu

or something

if the game is black and white, that means reno is working just fine

[warped lynx]

yea exiting the match and rejoining worked

that's annoying lol

time to find which upgrade works

[elfin lance]

normally games have a way to quickly generate

clair obscur you just press start twice

usually its just B8G8R8A8_Typeless

and maybe R10G10B0A2_unorm for dlss and stuff

but did dump lutbuilders spit anything out

[warped lynx]

B8 didn't work actually

[elfin lance]

is the game clamped?

[warped lynx]

um lemme turn it on and reopen the game

[warped lynx]

not sure

I'll be a dum dum and enable all the upgrades

[elfin lance]

if the game is black and white from blowout 100, that means its all good

[elfin lance]

please dont

try only upgrade

r10g10b10a2_unorm

output size

[warped lynx]

I used the contrast slider

[elfin lance]

that works too

its just eye rape

[warped lynx]

ok

[elfin lance]

but whats wrong with the upgrades

it might work without them

set exposure to 99

ctrl click exposure

does it go to peak or only 203/game nits?

[warped lynx]

it only goes up to 203

[elfin lance]

interesting

[warped lynx]

r10 seems to be the one, but let me compare screenshots with typless first

[elfin lance]

either way ima go commit this shit

btw if you're able to compile renodx, you can fix these issues yourself fairly easily

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/pull/233/commits/f340a6cd8ae4934b09107133de7b2189e02b5d5d

unrealengine/addon.cpp

you find the product name of a game in reshade.log

22:04:18:294 [ 8620] | INFO | [RenoDX] No default settings for CotW-Win64-Shipping.exe (FATAL FURY: City of the Wolves)

for this game the product name FATAL FURY: City of the Wolves

the way we know we need the pipeline exception is if we see failed to replace pipeline in reshade.log

22:04:19:501 [14936] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::BuildReplacementPipeline(Replacing 0xe3bb0c03)
22:04:19:501 [14936] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Replacing pipeline for 0xe3bb0c03, pipeline: 0x0000026ec2a99870, index: 4, type: pixel_shader, stage: pixel_shader)
22:04:19:501 [14936] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Failed to replace pipeline)

if the product name is some generic bullshit, you can also use the .exe name instead -- like Robocop's product name is "Unreal Engine Game" or something

[warped lynx]

I see

I'll keep that in mind for next time

[elfin lance]

maybe you'll be able to help somebody else out

its a simple fix

[warped lynx]

btw

this does seem to be an r10 unorm game

I tried some other stuff and r10 typeless and it clamped

[elfin lance]

22:04:18:730 [ 8620] | INFO  | > Dumping swap chain description:
22:04:18:730 [ 8620] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
22:04:18:730 [ 8620] | INFO  |   | Parameter                               | Value                                   |
22:04:18:730 [ 8620] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
22:04:18:730 [ 8620] | INFO  |   | Width                                   | 3840                                    |
22:04:18:730 [ 8620] | INFO  |   | Height                                  | 2160                                    |
22:04:18:731 [ 8620] | INFO  |   | RefreshRate                             | 0                   0                   |
22:04:18:731 [ 8620] | INFO  |   | Format                                  | DXGI_FORMAT_R10G10B10A2_UNORM 

didnt you say you got it to unclamp?

[warped lynx]

yea

[elfin lance]

with what?

[warped lynx]

I meant upgrading r10 unorm unclamps it

[elfin lance]

just rgb10a2 unorm?

ohh ok

pog

[warped lynx]

yea

[elfin lance]

sorry misread

was taking a table nap

either way enjoy

if you find an area with no lut; feel free to send a cso

and I'll add it

but I doubt they have multuple lutbuilders for some reason

@glossy valve 0xe3bb0c03 -- the eternal strands lutbuilder you commited some time ago -- it seems to be one of the generic UE5 lutbuilders, along with the Ninja Gaiden one

similar to the C1B sm5 lutbuilder a ton of UE4 games use

[warped lynx]

there is a problem though

one sec

[elfin lance]

griefed ui?

[warped lynx]

ngl I didn't notice, but I was talking about the pink light and the fire

they have this blocky low res looking bloom like artifact

[elfin lance]

you can mess with the hue correction sliders

[warped lynx]

vanilla vs renodrt

[elfin lance]

and per channel stuff

[warped lynx]

that fixes the blocky artifacts?

[elfin lance]

I think its blocky in sdr too

just not as bright

so its not insttantly visible

also thats not an artifact, tahts a dither pattern

you can disable per channel correction

but yea the ui doesnt look like its getting encoded; it might have a few custom UI shaders -- but even then that shouldnt be a big deal??

does the UI get fixed when you set the game to vanilla/off with renodrt

or does the UI/Health Bar only look normal when you have no addon

based on the ini mod; it seems the UI is 10k; so its getting tonemapped down

@warped lynx if you boost saturation, does the UI get saturated

or if you set blowout to 100; does the UI become black and white?

[warped lynx]

80/80/80 doesn't look that great here

[warped lynx]

seems like it does affect the ui

based of the image I just posted

[elfin lance]

so yea the UI isnt a "UI" shader

its part of the game

and getting tonemapped down

and yea dont use 808080

you can bump saturation up a bit

also you can turn off the per channel stuff so the fire becomes white again

[warped lynx]

I clicked on sdr grade bypass

wanted to try it out

[elfin lance]

click reset

put blowout restoration to 0

[warped lynx]

wait what do you want me to do now I've already reset it

[elfin lance]

click reset

then set blowout restoration to 0

[warped lynx]

copy

[elfin lance]

and then do w/e regenerates the scene

[elfin lance]

I wonder if changing the game to scRGB would do anything

yea the dither pattern is visible

does the game have dlss?

or any upscaling

[warped lynx]

tsr, but render res is at 100(and I'm using output ratio)

[elfin lance]

does it have anything thats not TSR

[warped lynx]

taa lol

[elfin lance]

try taa for memes

and just for fun

do scRGB and restart

but yea that fire shit might just be something you live with

or do output size upgrades

not output ratio

[warped lynx]

I was planning on super sampling

[elfin lance]

you can also upgrade b8g8r8a8_typeless -- even if it didnt unclamp

it might've helped

[warped lynx]

well I guess native res tsr still looks good

[elfin lance]

see if it fixs stuff first

then you can mess with output ratio

[warped lynx]

err alright I'll try both I guess

[elfin lance]

yea do both

clair needs 3

typeless, unorm, and rgb10_unorm

also why no lilium shader

ohh you can also upgrade fp11 to potentially unclamp gamut

r11g11b10_float

[warped lynx]

I can use it if you want

[elfin lance]

nah no big deal

[warped lynx]

b8 unorm + type with r10 unorm doesn't change anything

[elfin lance]

what about scRGB

[warped lynx]

forgot to mention that I'm using scrgb too yea

[elfin lance]

time to live with the dither pattern then

[warped lynx]

rip

[elfin lance]

also taa didnt fix it?

you might be able to mess with UE cvars

that disable dither

[warped lynx]

nope

[elfin lance]

try

r.Tonemapper.Quality = 4

or r.Tonemapper.Quality = 0

in engine.ini

Defines the Tonemapper Quality in the range 0..5 Depending on the used settings we might pick a faster shader permutation 0: basic tonemapper only, lowest quality 2: + Vignette 4: + Grain 5: + GrainJitter = full quality (default)

4 is everything but grain

but I dont thinkthats it

I think thats just the texture of the fire

[tired mulch]

Yea

[elfin lance]

dont ping me

ping the other dude

I dont play the game

[warped lynx]

seems like r10 unorm is the only thing that does anything

[elfin lance]

thats most of these games

[tired mulch]

Kk

[elfin lance]

@unique parcel

I mean Id ont mind getting pinged, just saying

I'm not the one who needs the info lol

so whats your setup

and does it clip or not?

[warped lynx]

it goes under [SystemSettings] right?

[tired mulch]

Kurotonemapping off

[elfin lance]

idk

lets google

[elfin lance]

yes

[elfin lance]

thats it?

everything else is stock reshade + unreal engine?

[tired mulch]

Gimme a sec

r.KuroTonemapping=0```

engine.ini

for in game

[elfin lance]

are you on 16:9 or ultrameme

[tired mulch]

16:9

[elfin lance]

[warped lynx]

yea its kinda cooked

[elfin lance]

btw you're using 2.4 gamma

gamma is per channel

you might get better results with the contrast slider

[elfin lance]

figured; just live with the fire

[tired mulch]

well, the UI look too bland

with anything other than 2.4

its mostly for the UI

[elfin lance]

ah

yea

[tired mulch]

I just graded around that

[elfin lance]

the ui wont get effected by

colorgrading sliders

[tired mulch]

i'd do UI 2.4 + game 2.2 and grade on top of game if i could

these settings are cutting it real close in terms of shadows though

ppl have to raise the shadows because if ur display r crushing blacks u will start losing details

[elfin lance]

I remember another dude a month ago

had clipping when he jumped

remember

[tired mulch]

it still there

sort of

with kurotonemapping on it will hard clip to ui

with it off it will just darken but not completely hard clip

[elfin lance]

[tired mulch]

that's technically after fixing

iirc it also hard clipped if kurotonemapping off

but ritsu fixed it

[elfin lance]

the issue paul had was attacking

attack = clip

[tired mulch]

and now it just darkens

let me record a quick vid

[elfin lance]

weird stuff

doesnt look like the end of the world

[tired mulch]

yeah if you look at the analysis its not actually clipping

its just the image being dimmed, but it's def noticeable

[elfin lance]

yea

looks like the game is trying to draw an effect

thats not happy being in hdr

like a vignette or

something pop up

[tired mulch]

^

it's a vignette like effect

maybe someone can fix it

for reference this is what happens in sdr/vanilla

[elfin lance]

I had a simialr effect in one of the early games I modded

I just skipped the effect

and thats it

[rigid path]

shortfuse helped me find the shader a while ago but didn't get further than that

[elfin lance]

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/e1da8d4032ca608487cb879b36c9a87f8047e36d/src/games/nightsofazure1/effects_0x7894FC68.ps_5_0.hlsl#L45

just return the sample

very simple fix

just dont run any code

if that effect has its own shader, you can just find where it samples the color before appling the effect and do

float3 ungraded = color.rgb;

if (tonemaptype != 0){
o0.rgb = color.rgb;
o0.a = 1.f;
return;
}

that will completely nuke the effect though

it might be a solid bandaid fix

[tired mulch]

nuking is probably infinitely preferrable than the flickering

[elfin lance]

the shader he shared is aids

looks like it might be part of kuro tonemapping?

it does shit like lin2log

actually

this is a very custom unreal engine

sample shader

sadly its not just an effect

in its own comfy shader

[tired mulch]

[elfin lance]

you can chop this up

and make it a generic UE sample shader

this has all the kruo tonemapping shit in it I think

because I see curves and stuff

[tired mulch]

yeah i think it's with it on

[elfin lance]

it has the custom code wrapped in a cbuffer

so its probably the same shader regardless

of the setting

[tired mulch]

turning it off makes it a lot more generic but some ppl want the game's original look

[elfin lance]

maybe not

[tired mulch]

lut strength also doesn't work properly unless you turn kurotonemapping off since it still applies at strength 0

#1321685184852135967 message

[elfin lance]

long aog

like long ago

before the unreal mod was a thing and we where just playing with UE lutbuilders

we had to also modify the sample shaders

there might be some sort of cursed process to hack apart their custom sample shader

and then process the color through a generic lutbuilder

like any other UE game

but I dont have the game, and dont want their anti cheat on my pc

[torpid glacier]

how is renodx in split fiction? Is it finished? and what does Sliders might apply only on scene change mean?

[spare bane]

WuWa is missing an output shader. I never finished modding it

[elfin lance]

@torpid glacier seems to work just out of the box

[versed wagon]

did this happen to anyone else hm?

[unique parcel]

screenshots worked fine for me, with SK+Reno

but I will retest it later

[versed wagon]

thank you

[neat pulsar]

Anyone play deadzone rogue? Tried adding the pinned Reshade but the game doesn’t load in like normal

[unique parcel]

screeshots work fine with SK+Reno:

@tired mulch upgrading R8G8B8A8_Typeless fixed the clamping, but yea I can see the effect "flickering"

[versed wagon]

hmm maybe its just a 'Stray' game thing right?

I ll try reno ue + sk in another game n see if that problem still occcurs hm

[left zealot]

ouuhh waht game is that

[unique parcel]

Wuthering Waves

[left zealot]

never heard of this imma look it up

[unique parcel]

it's a gacha game 😄

[left zealot]

aw hell nah

never mind then

[unique parcel]

It's very f2p friendly tho

I really like the combat

My reno settings for WuWa, it looks really good imo, even with the shader issues

Kuro tonemapper is disabled

[austere pike]

What do we loose out on by disabling kurotonemapping?

[ashen herald]

their tonemapping and colour grading

I also disabled it then used Reno to 'regrade' everything

[austere pike]

alrighty

[neat pulsar]

So I figured out using r10 to output size fixed the issue so that the game is visible again; however most of the sliders don't work (contrast, saturation, blowout, etc.)

Do I need to dump info to fix that? Using the generic UE addon mod.

[neat pulsar]

I disabled frame gen and set dlss sharpness to 0 and nothing changed either

I grabbed these files from the dump:

[elfin lance]

@neat pulsar I'll fix those in a bit

what game is this again?

let me eat breakfast and I'll make a build

[neat pulsar]

Thanks! It's Deadzone: Rogue

[elfin lance]

is the game uE5?

@neat pulsar here is an addon with those lutbuilders

use it instead of the unreal engine addon

if it crashes, send me reshade.log and I'll add the crash fix

if it works please let me know so I can upload it to the repo

[neat pulsar]

It is; will do

[elfin lance]

@spare bane I was looking at the fixed wuwa output shaders, and how much of it is actually "mandatory"

like you add branches and replace cmps with proper bools, and the sign block with a proper sign()

but isnt all thats "really needed" just the removed saturates and upgradetonemap?

also is this a typo?

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/e7946f08f7c7d8707139cb2bd011224c37fbb3a8/src/games/unrealengine/games/wutheringwaves/output_0x271E2688.ps_5_x.hlsl#L76

  // r0.z = cmp(0 < cb0[96].x);
  bool r0zb = 0 < cb0[96].x;

r0zb isnt used anywhere

I guess r0.z isnt either

ok nvm I see, r0.z was just checking of 0 < cb0[96].x -- and you just replaced r0.z with the proper check

[elfin lance]

either way unless there is custom stuff or decomp issues; doesnt seem like that hard of a fix

[neat pulsar]

I ran it with the updated addon, but nothing changed on the sliders still, even after a full restart

[elfin lance]

set blowout to 100

and restart the game

also send

reshade.log

it might need the UE5 exception

shaders might not be getting replaced

@neat pulsar reshade.log please

[neat pulsar]

grabbing it to upload; funny enough it had blowout to 100 when I loaded back in already; must have forgotten to turn it off

[neat pulsar]

this was after I played a bit longer also just to attempt to load more things in if that's a thing

[elfin lance]

one second

17:11:47:262 [16176] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::BuildReplacementPipeline(Replacing 0x8146d205)
17:11:47:262 [16176] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Replacing pipeline for 0x8146d205, pipeline: 0x000001aaccf895a0, index: 4, type: pixel_shader, stage: pixel_shader)
17:11:47:262 [16176] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Failed to replace pipeline)

yep ez fix

let me add the ue5 exception

Deadzone: Rogue

@neat pulsar try this please

[neat pulsar]

OK, so the blowout 100 after restarting indeed works!

[elfin lance]

ok set it back to normal

play the game

and let me know how it looks

[elfin lance]

it wasnt the restart, it was the new addon

the old addon didnt replace shaders

[neat pulsar]

need to run around a bit, but move the settings around. I can only see the change after restarting though. when i move the slider the real time change doesn't occur. I've used escape from the mod menu but nothing to it if that's normal

hmm, seems like I was mistaken, it's using the escape from different scenes so it is doing it actually

[elfin lance]

yea thats good ole UE5

needs a scene change

[elfin lance]

yea in clair pressign start twice

works

same in oblivion

[neat pulsar]

what I'm having to do is change the setting, escape back to the main menu and hop back into the game and that causes the changes to be noticed

giving it a play to make sure it doesn't crash

[elfin lance]

the setting stuff is like all UE5 games nowadays

well ue 5.3+

but if the game is hdr; everything is good

the only thing that might pop up is a future area with different lutbuilders

but that can be easily added

off ot github

[neat pulsar]

Got it; well this was awesome! I hadn’t contributed in this way before. Looking to learn more of the backend and help out

[elfin lance]

feel free to share all the lutbuilders you find

and I'll happily add them

thats whats great about the Unreal Engine project, I dont have to own the game

you guys just have to run around; and collect the shaders

(unless they're compute shaders, then its a rip; and then we need the devkit )

[neat pulsar]

I can just leave on the dump lut setting while playing then?

[elfin lance]

no

it has a perf cost iirc

you can try, and if you get your target fps why not

but I usually re-enable it when I realize hdr got turned off

and grab the lutbuilders

what version of unreal is this game btw?

lmao the steam page of deadzone rogue

is literally "aces: greatest hits"

the pink, the rorange

[neat pulsar]

yup lol

btw I believe if I looked correctly the version is 5.5.4.0

[elfin lance]

5.5.4.0?

5.5 ??

5.5 ??

please double check

[neat pulsar]

5.5

[elfin lance]

@west stump @grim kernel first 5.5 game with your shadow fixs built in?

iirc 5.5 should have the pumbo's silent hill 2 pull request

for UE shadows

here is what a lutbuilder looks like from that game

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/67165599d3b176b346cebaefa5bd1cad76865a8c/src/games/unrealengine/lutbuilders/sm6/lutbuilder_0x8146D205.ps_6_6.hlsl

[west stump]

dunno, but u can just download 5.5 and rip shaders

[elfin lance]

I was mostly sharing because it seems like the first "production" game

thats using 5.5

[elfin lance]

if you're talking about the unreal editor or the unreal github; cant

no EGS acc

[neat pulsar]

@elfin lance well I did crash just now; not sure if it's related or not but it's the first time ever since playing the game

[elfin lance]

nope

only thing I can suggest is

delete all reshade fx

I have an issue in UE5 games where if I have reshade fx loaded

they can potentially crash

and make sure to use the pinned reshade in #🧩renodx-dev

[neat pulsar]

Using that pinned one

it might have been the hdr analysis tool

it was still active, but I had it hidden rather than turned off completely with a toggle

thanks for letting me know

[elfin lance]

even turning it off doesnt fix the crashing for me

I have to delete all fx in the shaders/texturs folder

so reshade shows "no effects found"

[neat pulsar]

ohhhhhhhh, i see

dang

will follow suit

[elfin lance]

idk why; but I can replicate the issue on my end

if I have fx and play a UE5 game

it crashes

after 5 min or 20 min or

if I toggle em on or off

no fx = no crashes

no issues

etc

14900k + 5090

idk what causes it

[neat pulsar]

yea and it's painful lol

cuz this game is a roguelike and it just hit me up twice on good runs

[elfin lance]

yea try no fx loaded

in reshade.ini delete effectsearchpath

and texturesearchpath

so when you press home

reshade goes

"no effect files found" or something

and make sure effectsync and depth buffer addons are off (the newest reshade installer should do that for you)

[neat pulsar]

dang, well it keeps crashing now even though I followed removing the fx and paths.. seems that it's just something in UE now since a report keeps wanting to submit a log

I can get about 20 mins in before it happens

[elfin lance]

rip

at that point idk

you're on the latest reshade right

the nobuiltin installer

this is an EA game, so expect EA UE jank

[neat pulsar]

using the one pinned from 5/9

[elfin lance]

yea thats the good one

I think if you get those crash windows

it might not be reno

but I'm not sure tbh

especially if it says the crash came from the game

[neat pulsar]

yea

I'm just looking through the last log to see if it gives me anything to go off of

There's a DXGI_ERROR_INVALID_CALL that's the smoking gun for the crash itself, but the Invalid AssetId warnings I saw suggests issues with the game's data that could be triggering unstable conditions for why it's crashing out. Don't even see an OC on right now either. Maybe it's the latest drivers, but I'm on 40 series still, so might just verify game files

it's acting like the card is being removed

yea, nvm it found 4 files had errors so retesting

[elfin lance]

dxgi device removed is a meme error

it can be an unstable oc [gpu]

game crash [like the game itself crashing, not third party stuff causing it]

bad driver/driver bug

[warped lynx]

yea lol

[neat pulsar]

yea since just verifying file integrity I got 0 crashes after removing the paths also

[elfin lance]

the game will be part of unreal generic whenever shortfuse merges it

[neat pulsar]

awesome

really appreciate your help throughout

[elfin lance]

np, if you find more lutbuilders; ping me

[neat pulsar]

bet

[tired mulch]

Does anyone have the issue where

RenoDX loads, but the add-on menu says there were some errors loading the plugins

[elfin lance]

no

[tired mulch]

there's no menu to config the settings,

but you can change the settings using the ini

[elfin lance]

make sure reshade is up to date

weird stuff

[tired mulch]

I sent my reshade dll to some guy to help him set it up

and he used the latest repo build

but yea it works on my end with the menu and everything

but menu is not popping up on his end even though everything else looks to be loading correctly

[elfin lance]

01:05:23:507 [13108] | INFO | Initializing crosire's ReShade version '6.4.1.25' (64-bit) loaded from 'C:\Users\matar\AppData\Local\Programs\Special K\PlugIns\ThirdParty\ReShade\ReShade64.dll' into 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Wuthering Waves\Client\Binaries\Win64\Client-Win64-Shipping.exe' (0x8499FE8C) ...

specialk

idk anything about reshade injected through specialk

I only use local install for reshade

also thats an older reshade iirc

the latest one from #🧩renodx-support should be 6.4.1.5 I think

• #🧩renodx-dev

doesnt wuwa work just fine with reshade as d3d12.dll in the game's folder?

[tired mulch]

I'll see if it works but no reason it shouldnt be working on his when its working on mine

[elfin lance]

the log shows renodx as working

01:05:26:589 [27572] | WARN | No add-on was registered by 'C:\Users\matar\AppData\Local\Programs\Special K\Profiles\Wuthering Waves\ReShade\renodx-unrealengine.addon64'. Unloading again ...

honestly it might be sk memes idk

[tired mulch]

Yeah its working theres just no ui

Settings still apply via ini

[elfin lance]

try disabling the specialk addon idk

or install it normally

idk shit about injectign reshade+reno with sk

if d3d12.dll works just fine; just do that

[tired mulch]

Normally it should just work with reshade normal mode + lazy order

[elfin lance]

idk sk gets changed a ton

[tired mulch]

Ever since the fixes kal made

To increase compatibility

It should be normal mode + lazy at least for wuwa

[elfin lance]

unless the game explicitly needs SK to bypass an anticheat; like maple's mods

please try just using local install

the wiki says wuwa works with d3d12.dll

tell him to try no sk + d3d12

and addon in game folder

[tired mulch]

Yeah maybe i should do that in the first place

I ask the dude he said he knows how to inject reshade using SK

But he doesnt know where the reshade dll is located 😭

[elfin lance]

why are you even telling these people to use the whole sk circus

[tired mulch]

I wasnt even gonna tell him how to do it but he said he already knows how to use sk

[elfin lance]

just install the mod normally, and then if he wants to use SK; he can use it with reshade setup normally

[tired mulch]

So i assume it should be trivial

😭

[elfin lance]

[tired mulch]

Gonna tell him to just use d3d12 atp, i still need to explain him how to do it but hey still easier than diagnosing sk+ reshade

[ripe loom]

Tekken 7 works with this but stages are still clamped.

[unique parcel]

I had the same issue. I reseted the SK profile then it started to work

but I don't inject rehade through SK

UI works too

[elfin lance]

@ripe loom I'll mess around with tekken7 later tonight

[elfin lance]

@spare bane I'm curious what the right "fix" for this is -- look at the hp bar ontop

left sdr right reno unrealengine

the top bar is not a "ui shader" -- its part of the game, so its getting tonemapped down, and getting washed out

the yellow "spg"

[spare bane]

reduce blowout restoration

[elfin lance]

thats what I suggested, idk if @warped lynx tried that out

[glossy valve]

I think all newer UE games (5.3+) require on_create_pipeline_layout to return true to work

Maybe we could detect the exe's version?

[ripe loom]

cool, thanks 🫡

[dense jay]

Life is Strange Remastered - AA - FXAA

[vagrant thicket]

the pin says "Upload files in renodx folder" for the lutbuilder but there is no renodx folder with the lutbuilder inside? i enabled lut dumping in the addon settings.

[viscid mirage]

Have you restarted the game

[vagrant thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-4750668759982445133

thank you

fixed

@elfin lance everspace 2 lutbuilder, issues i noticed: in-game "experimental" hdr needs to be turned off or it causes all kinds of trippy screen glitches, peak and game brightness sliders do nothing and ui brightness affects the overall screen brightness. idk if any of those are important but thought i'd mention it.

[elfin lance]

@vagrant thicket unless somebody else gets to it; I'll fix these around 5pm est

[elfin lance]

same with these

[vagrant thicket]

thank you i love this game so much

[elfin lance]

time to get to those lutbuilders

[vagrant thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-mochi-peach-cat-cute-gif-18485301

[elfin lance]

sorry these lutbuilders are like weird cut down versions

cant find all the colors

@vagrant thicket let me know if this works; if the game crashes on launch send me the reshade.log file

and I'll add the crash fix

if the shaders dont replace, also send me reshade.log

[vagrant thicket]

game didn't crash, peak brightnes works i think, game brightness does nothing, and ui brightness still affects overall brightness

@elfin lance

[elfin lance]

that means

the game has luts that draw

once per scene

you need to regenerate a scene for it to change

like load a save file

but let me see

let me give you

a new version

one second

[vagrant thicket]

so no real time change basically

[elfin lance]

this needs the fix

[elfin lance]

this is failing to replace; but that usually means

no realtime changes

like in clair obscur I press start twice

EVERSPACE 2

@vagrant thicket

remember to delete the old ue-dev addon and unreal-engine addon

[vagrant thicket]

yes i did

same issue, if i look at the hdr analysis ui still raises the entire graph and game does nothing

[elfin lance]

right

[vagrant thicket]

wait a moment i can send the log again

[elfin lance]

thats normal

you need to

re-create the scene

try to load a save or

open the start menu and close it

[vagrant thicket]

i did

i'll try again

[elfin lance]

or restart the game

or you can go into settings

find a gamma setting

and move it up 1 click

and then move it back 1 click

idk what the specific thing that causes the lutbuilder to replace for that game is

but every game has its own thing

sometimes going in and out of combat might redraw the lut

[vagrant thicket]

thank you for trying anyway, it looks pretty good tho otherwise

maybe its just like you said

no real time change

[elfin lance]

do me a favor; set blowout to 100

and tell me what causes the game to turn black and white

[vagrant thicket]

changing blowout to 100 did that

[elfin lance]

yea if UI nits raises the entire histogram; you need to trigger a scene change -- aka

no real time changes

[elfin lance]

whatever happened

is what causes a scene change

so you should be able to mess with UI nits and shit

either way it seems like the mod works

off to github

[vagrant thicket]

yes definitely look better

i set game brightness to 203 and ui at 80 and reloaded

does the graph look like it should

or close to it

[elfin lance]

I mean looks fine

the 80 looks 80 nits I guess

exactly 80 nits

everything looks perfect

I'll add the game to the wiki when shortfuse

merges the lutbuilders

but do you have a tl;dr of

any settings users need to change?

[elfin lance]

you mentioned something about experimental hdr

idk if thats still an issue with the fixed mod

you can also try upgrading fp11 to see if it unclamps the gamut

[vagrant thicket]

so the game has hdr, but they it's "experimental" and there are literally no sliders at all. no peak, game or ui.

[elfin lance]

ah

[vagrant thicket]

and the ui is blindingly bright with their hdr

[elfin lance]

so just turn native hdr off

got it

[vagrant thicket]

yes, i also tried native+reno, but that gave me all kinds of funky screen glitches

so native hdr off+reno now

[elfin lance]

(ue native hdr is ass 99% of the time anyway)

I got pics

destroys her skin

[vagrant thicket]

colors look off yeah

"artistic intent" or something

[elfin lance]

well aces one meme after another

aces is the tonemapper unreal engine uses for everything

[vagrant thicket]

is that a setting in the addon (the fp11)?

[elfin lance]

r11g11b10_float

thats fp11

in the upgrade section

[vagrant thicket]

set to output size too? like this?

[elfin lance]

yea

or output ratio, thats usually safe too

993 peak

aw3225qf?

[vagrant thicket]

yes

[elfin lance]

pog; got one too

got it on release

got the aw3423dw on release (21:9 qd oled) -- but I didnt like 21:9

and wanted 4k asap

its my main display

[vagrant thicket]

i thought about 21:9 but i played more esports titles (league, valorant, csgo etc.) at the time and i didn't wanna have black borders on the side

since those games aside from cs only do 16:9

usually

[elfin lance]

I used 21:9 for a bit over a year and my main display

from the release to

when the aw3225qf came out

didnt get into it

good ole 16:9 never lets you down

[vagrant thicket]

yeah i like the idea of 21:9, but adoption is still an issue. so many games have bugs or dont support the resolutions fully

[elfin lance]

I played a lot of 16:9 shit on the 21:9 display

and on an oled you dont see the black bars

in a way an oled is any aspect ratio display

[vagrant thicket]

yes was gonna say, that would be one advantage of 21:9 oled over ips

[elfin lance]

imo even native 21:9 isnt even that special

idk

a 32 inch 4k boi is a lot more immesive than 21:9 34 inch 1440p

[vagrant thicket]

i have an lg c9 that i use for movies and tv, and it has some pixels dying on the upper right corner (very minor and not spreading) and during movies i don't notice it because that part is black usually anyway

[elfin lance]

the only ultrameme that might actually be solid immersion are like giant ultrawides

the sim racers setup

like 3x 16:9 displays

that I can get behind

[vagrant thicket]

i do some simracing and thought about that too but a) expensive as hell and b) i'd need a seperate setup since it wont fit on my desk

and i'm not that commited

[elfin lance]

I bought a wheel shifter and pedal

ssome time ago

used it a few days

and got too lazy to set it up

[vagrant thicket]

i have a modded g923 that logitech wheel that most beginners buy you've probably seen it

just with a yoke style hypercar wheel

[elfin lance]

I think thats what I got

some 250$ logitech

let me tell you

[vagrant thicket]

yeah

[elfin lance]

g920

not g923

[vagrant thicket]

think thats the xbox variant its the same

just different buttons

[elfin lance]

and the hsifter is

"logitech g driving force shifter"

[vagrant thicket]

yup

[elfin lance]

just a 50$ shifter

[vagrant thicket]

i'm still putting money aside here and there to eventually get a big boy wheel and pedal setup

[elfin lance]

idc enough about racing games; it was just an impulse buy

[vagrant thicket]

like the logitech g pro wheel. it has something logitech calls "trueforce" which is basically dualsense haptic feedback for a racing wheel

[elfin lance]

I'd probably play more if setting up the wheel wasnt actual owrk

I'm a lazy boi

I wanted to get like a stand for it

but all the ones on amazon are chineasium

and either break or

move when you hit the breaks

or have complicated ass instructions + missing parts

[vagrant thicket]

yeah i got a stand for like 80€. definitely chinese but it gets the job done. not pretty but moving around is easier.

something like this would be my dream. and you can flip it 90° so it takes up less space

but that whole setup is like 1500€

what i like about racing games is that it's probably the genre most capable of being "realistic"

if htat makes sense

[elfin lance]

I'd do all that

if I like

was hardcore into racing sims

of euro truck

but I got the wheel as a meme during a sale

[vagrant thicket]

yeah understandable

its another expensive hobby that takes up a lot of space and time

[elfin lance]

I need to get back into gunpla

I have 4 glass shelves, a while airbrush setup

idk how much money in painting supplies

my plastic dolls cost more than pc gaming

[vagrant thicket]

whats gunpla?

[elfin lance]

gundam plastic models

[vagrant thicket]

ah yeah

i'm too impatient for that, my dad always tried to get me into model building (more cars n stuff though)

one day when i have my own flat or even house maybe i'll do the biggest nerd cave ever with all that stuff

[elfin lance]

yea I live alone

so I have all the space