✅RenoDX: Unreal Engine

[spare bane]

But I have to make upgrading swapchain optional.

And deal with user settings

[elfin lance]

loosing ui control is fine

but having a washed out srgb ui in pq isnt fine

which is the main issue with ini hdr (no mods/no reno/etc)

the ui is hard griefed

[spare bane]

I actually haven't looked at modding the UI compositing shader. I assumed UE draws onto swapchain in steps in Oblivion

[elfin lance]

ask ersh what he did

long ago when he had the unreal engine tweaks

ersh had 2 csos that used the reshade shader replacer

that hardcoded 203 nit ui with gamma correction

apparently it was 1 line, encoding them correctly

we had 2 shaders -- one for ue 4.27, one for ue 5.0/5.1

but there where still issues; like remnant2's white UI elements where 10k nits

hell most HDR10 DX12 games had 10k nit UIs

since its done through reno we can obv work something out though vs. a static shader replacement

[spare bane]

Custom games will be custom but I also don't deal with much of the HDR path.

[elfin lance]

I'm scared if we start adding hdr lutbuilders

shit wil get griefed

also there are always risks associated with reading/writing to engine.ini

[spare bane]

Oblivion is for performance/fg and they had HDR for a bit in their game. They removed it

[elfin lance]

people's setups, games go in diff locations

[elfin lance]

most ue 5.3+ games you can get solid aces hdr as long as they dont use a sdr lut in any of their lutbuilders

[spare bane]

even if they do use SDR, it's the same lutbuilder permutation

All the lutbuilders have both lin2log and pq in them so they're SDR/HDR permutation safe

Just have to change the output.

[elfin lance]

this spawned earlier which started the discussion

I cought 7 lutbuilders for that game iirc, and was surprised to see a new lutbuilder

but native hdr spawned that

but this isnt "ini hdr"; but the games own native hdr [which is generic ue native hdr iirc]

which opens a whole new can of worms

I dont think ini hdr works if the game has native hdr // its own hdr on/off slider

[viscid mirage]

I was talking about this shader for example, you get the combined UI and game in separate textures and can also control UI brightness https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/src/games/stalker2/final00_0xA7EFB8C2.ps_6_6.hlsl#L32

[elfin lance]

yea this is the same thing ritsu did in DBZ

[viscid mirage]

yup

thats also what I did in wukong

but how are we losing UI control

[elfin lance]

btw

[cobalt marlin]

Hard no

😅

[elfin lance]

I never fully understood

why does wu kong not work with UE generic

did lutbuilders not replace?

[viscid mirage]

I never added the lutbuilders to it since no other game uses the ue 5.0 nvidia branch

[spare bane]

renodx::draw::Config GetOutputConfig(bool is_pq) {
  renodx::draw::Config config = renodx::draw::BuildConfig();
  if (is_pq) {
    config.intermediate_encoding = renodx::draw::ENCODING_PQ;
    if (CUSTOM_LUT_OPTIMIZATION == 0.f) {
      config.intermediate_scaling = 1.f;
    } else {
      config.intermediate_scaling = RENODX_DIFFUSE_WHITE_NITS;
    }
    config.intermediate_color_space = renodx::color::convert::COLOR_SPACE_BT2020;
  }
  return config;
}

float4 GenerateOutput(uint OutputDevice = 0u) {
  renodx::draw::Config config = GetOutputConfig(OutputDevice != 0u);

  float3 untonemapped_graded = renodx::draw::ComputeUntonemappedGraded(RENODX_UE_CONFIG.untonemapped_bt709, RENODX_UE_CONFIG.graded_bt709, config);

  float3 color;
  [branch]
  if (CUSTOM_LUT_OPTIMIZATION == 0.f) {
    color = untonemapped_graded;  // Apply in output
    config.gamma_correction = 0.f;
  } else {
    color = renodx::draw::ToneMapPass(untonemapped_graded, config);
  }

  color = renodx::draw::RenderIntermediatePass(color, config);
  color *= 1.f / 1.05f;
  return float4(color, 1.f);
}

[elfin lance]

I guess sinceit heavily relies on FG maybe its better as a ini mod

[viscid mirage]

ya

[elfin lance]

you could make your own lutbuilder mod but still

[viscid mirage]

I'm only modding the lutbuilders in my wukong mod

[elfin lance]

btw @spare bane since you're here -- can you add a slider to ue generic for proxy revert state (default false)

it fixs a bunch of DX11 games UI becoming blocks

[elfin lance]

so if ini hdr is on, you just encode to pq

and let UE decode?

[spare bane]

Yes

You also need no swapchain pass. Also rip d93

UI is srgb, not 2.2 and possibly some other minor things

Though if there's a composite shader, you can mess with it there.

[elfin lance]

iirc 5.2+ fixed the griefed UI

but the UI is going to be hard fucked on 5.0 and below

without modiying the composite shader

like a very low nit srgb encoded UI in a hdr container

[spare bane]

I think UI is still srgb, regardless of how it blends

[elfin lance]

so its going to have the encoded look; because the display isnt decoding [because hdr]

[spare bane]

I had it as default and it broke Crisis Core

[elfin lance]

yea what we want is a slider thats off default

[viscid mirage]

you can default it to off, but some games definitely need it

[elfin lance]

and then we can mess with it per game

[spare bane]

It technically shouldn't break, so it's more a bug in the implementation. Properly, it should always be on. Not sure what's missing but I need a reproducible of it breaking a game to see

[elfin lance]

the bug with off is a blocky ui

let me send a pic

[spare bane]

No

I need the bug with it on

[viscid mirage]

crisis core's bug wasn't reproducible?

[elfin lance]

yea can we reproduce it somehow

[spare bane]

Don't have that location

Crisis core is episodic

[elfin lance]

so it was a specific location in crisis core that broke it

not like a generic thing

because in the games I've tested that are broken; it was a straight up fix

whats wrong with a slider for now as a bandaid?

[spare bane]

You can still do it by process name regardless

It's not an every game thing. Better to understand the issue, even which games need it and why

[elfin lance]

I thought of that

but didnt want to bloat addon.cpp

[spare bane]

C++'s initializer lists is like its JSON, but compile-tile only. We can stick it all into another file.

[elfin lance]

a slider we can just tell users to flick on via the wiki modlist or set to true when setting up the upgrade defaults

like here ```cpp
"Avowed",
{
{"Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_UNORM", UPGRADE_TYPE_OUTPUT_SIZE},
},

we already have that

and if its a slider, we can enable it in that array

hmm what about an invisible slider (is visible = false)

[elfin lance]

that way we can still trigger it to true via the default upgrade/settings array

[spare bane]

It's all the same, really. Just wondering if there were to integrate the stuff we're doing now for custom games.

Like Avowed

[elfin lance]

like the custom upgrade function I made?

[spare bane]

Yes

[elfin lance]

I mean that was for stuff you have no choice but to use

like the weird aspect ratios

but yea sticking them in a "json" would be really nice

[spare bane]

JSON schema is basically the same as a C++ struct

[elfin lance]

because addon.cpp is going to get out of hand

if we had a seperate file, I'd start adding a lot more game's default settings

[spare bane]

Yeah, we're editing the wiki and not the addon out of convenience, not practicality

It's the same work, but modifying the addon.cpp = scary

(also we need the exe or process name)

[elfin lance]

ngl I just didnt want to bloat it

[elfin lance]

thats a rip

gamepass and steam/epic = diff filenames

[spare bane]

JSON are meant to be "bloated". They're mini databases

[elfin lance]

also some games might have a generic exe name

[elfin lance]

yea json is fine

I'm talking about the current system

[spare bane]

Just repeat the exe name

[elfin lance]

I know 3 games that are shootergame.exe

because devs where too lazy to change it

and they're popular games

why would product name not work?

[spare bane]

I can also do path as well.

[elfin lance]

like what we're doing now

[spare bane]

Were doing filename

[elfin lance]

with .exe name being a fallback incase the product name is a meme

[spare bane]

I mean path

Like folder/folder/filename.exe

[elfin lance]

auto product_name = renodx::utils::platform::GetProductName(process_path); whatever this is seems to be the best option imo

[elfin lance]

ah

I read the code

but thought product name was something fancy

I get it now

[spare bane]

Could also do Window Title

But that might get translated

[elfin lance]

yea

localization

either way I'm sure we'll figure it out; but imo exe name is unreliable

and if we get a seperate file, we can move most of the shit on the wiki over to the seperate file

so unreal just works out of the box

[spare bane]

Output shaders will let us control chromatic aberration, local exposure, vignetting, bloom, film grain, and of course, realtime tonemapping in 5.3+

[torpid glacier]

I could not get the UE version to work with Jedi Survivor. Is there a custom addon for it?

[spare bane]

Jedi Survivor is custom. The dev work is incomplete.

The shaders are on the repo, but nobody has compiled it into a mod

[torpid glacier]

Oh. So can someone please do that? I doubt I’ll be able to otherwise I’d offer to help. lol.

[elfin lance]

This might be a bad take, but I feel like sample shader mods

should be saved for per-game mods

while UE4 shared sample shader mods accross multiple games, UE5 doesnt seem to share hashes

and while a game can have 1 lutbuilder, it can have 5,10, hell more sample shaders

[elfin lance]

if you have the csos it might be worth re-decompiling it from spriv to flattened decomp.exe

fucking ladder ladder memes

[sacred zinc]

Does jedi Fallen Order work with this or is it custom as well?

[bold gulch]

seems like it uses the lutbuilders so it doesn't need an entirely separate mod, just someone to fix up the shaders that come afterwards and add them to the UE mod

[left narwhal]

So, finally using it again and resuming the game.

So far, in the intro cutscenes alone, it has reverted back to XeSS automatically, and I had to manually move it to DLSS.

Like 4-5 times so far? Will continue to play it and see if that happens during gameplay, or only cutscenes, and will report back.

But is this a known issue? I know you told me people have reported it not working, but not sure if it's related to that.

Cutscene ended, and now happened again. I think scene change causes it? Not sure.

Yeah, so it doesn't happen in actual gameplay, only scene/cutscene transition. Even if you let it stay on XeSS, it'll still do that on transition, as in it'll bring the game to a crawl for couple seconds as it changes the upscaler and goes back to normal right after.

Will try it without SK next and let you know.

Nope, does it without SK, too.

Also, not sure if there's an OptiScaler channel I should move this convo to or something.

But if there's anything you need me to try to troubleshoot this, LMK and I will.

[elfin lance]

are you using ritsu's mod

or unrealengine.addon64

[left narwhal]

For OptiScaler?

[bold gulch]

ritsu didn't make a split fiction mod

[elfin lance]

thats not clair?

ohh

[left narwhal]

lmao

[elfin lance]

thats split fiction

LMAO

[left narwhal]

No, it's the one you made for me.

[elfin lance]

bro idk what the game looks like

I just read reshade.log

did you play the game, and did any areas go back to being SDR?

[bold gulch]

split screen game

what else could it be

also the pic says splitfiction.exe

[left narwhal]

No, resuming it today for first time

[elfin lance]

alright, you know what to do if a scene goes hdr

enable lut dumping and ping me

dont play with lut dumping though; I think it has a perf cost

[left narwhal]

Yeah, I remember your write up.

Yeah, that's just for troubleshooting.

[elfin lance]

yea its mb for not reading all of it

[narrow fern]

Can I use this plugin in SDR mode?

The game I’m playing is Wuthering Waves.

[spare bane]

Maybe. You can try to switch from HDR10 (or PQ?) to scRGB Mode under Advanced.

I'm realizing there's some SDR benefit to this as well. Specifically control of the tonemapper

[narrow fern]

Okay, I’ll give it a try.
I often need to stream, but enabling Windows HDR mode causes the viewers to see an overexposed image.
I don’t know how to fix this issue, so I’m thinking of switching to SDR mode and using a plugin to adjust the game’s colors instead.

[viscid mirage]

you also have to set peak and game brightness to 80 nits

[spare bane]

You can set peak to 203 and I believe should be fine. If you can suffer the SDR range. I could look into HDR tonemapping for OBS

[viscid mirage]

btw, there are some dx11 games we previously marked as working that crash now

like vampyr

don't see any errors in here tho

remnant 1 also crashes

[spare bane]

I've seen this weird crash in Oblivion. Something about replacing some shaders makes it crash. I fixed that with pipeline layout changes, but would love to know what is causing it to crash.

[narrow fern]

I’m adjusting the SDR color settings on my Windows system.
I’m using an OLED monitor, and switching from HDR back to SDR makes the colors feel weird.

[narrow fern]

Should I enable Windows Auto HDR?

[spare bane]

no

also, you should ask in #🖥️tvs-and-monitors or #🔧hdr-troubleshooting

sdr and hdr shouldn't be anything different except for 2.2 in SDR and SRGB in HDR, unless your monitor is really messed up

[viscid mirage]

the last nightly build that works for vampyr is 20250409

crashes with 20250410

same for remnant

[spare bane]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/compare/nightly-20250509...nightly-20250410

GitHub might be gaslighting

[spare bane]

Might need prevent fullscreen

[viscid mirage]

unfortunately doesn't help

[viscid mirage]

hmm the addon from the 10th is 300kb larger tho

oh you were comparing the latest ver with the one in april.. github is def lying lol

[spare bane]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/compare/nightly-20250409...nightly-20250410

[spare bane]

@viscid mirage Seems ignore_dummy_windows needs a rewrite. And I still have to merge @brave sand 's changes.

You could try latest and see if things change if you disable the flag

[tired mulch]

I think he's gotta do 80/80/80

80 peak 80 game 80 ui i mean

[spare bane]

Yes, 80/80/80 in terms of nits

[tired mulch]

i was too lazy to turn off HDR when streaming to my SDR tv

so things were blown own til i did 80 80 80

[spare bane]

With scRGB it's the correct way to use RenoDX for SDR

[tacit vale]

Drive Beyond Horizons doesnt want to unclamp brightness with any upgrade but gamut works.

[tired mulch]

Obamna

[tacit vale]

:)

[elfin lance]

usually if you need the pipeline layout exception reshade.log has "failed to replace pipeline" in reshade.log

[viscid mirage]

even with that flag disabled the games still crash

[spare bane]

Try commenting out the abort modifications stuff related to createswapchain

[viscid mirage]

still crashes

commented out l1022 to 1052

and then something after that that also used abort modification

[spare bane]

Do you know how to do a debug build and launch with VSCode?

It'll tell you what RenoDX code is making it crash

[viscid mirage]

I don't

[spare bane]

Use the cmake tab, set ninja x64 debug

There's a line about while debugger not attached, sleep(100)

It makes the game wait for VSCode to attach before proceeding

You want that line in attach part of the addon.cpp

When you the start the game, nothing seems to happen. Press F5 with VSCode and pick the exe (process) of the game.

When it crashes it'll stop and give you a stack trace telling you lines of codes were in execution to cause the exception (crash)

[viscid mirage]

I'm currently getting this with F5 "configured debug type 'cppvsdbg' is not supported"

when I enable the microsoft C++ extension I can select the process

and get the debug console which also shows the process log

but theres no stack trace on crash

[fierce lava]

Got these 2 lutbuilders for Styx: Shards of Darkness

[spare bane]

can you try with increased DEBUG_LEVEL_0 DEBUG_LEVEL_1 and DEBUG_LEVEL_2

[elfin lance]

thank you, lets look

I need to figure out how to regex the lutbuilder fixs

@spare bane can you help me out, I cant find untonemapped ap1 here; seems a bit different

https://gist.github.com/marat569/f3100cd0b24f507a631ab02d73c41e66

I'm following the code

I'm thinking under like 169 idk

@fierce lava what verison of UE is this?

right click gam.exe

[fierce lava]

4.13.1 according to pcgw

[elfin lance]

propperties -> details

now thats old

I wonder if its not using the filmic tonemapper

so we dont have untonemapped ap1

maybe somewhere here (line 299?)

  r0.w = dot(r0.xyz, float3(0.272228718, 0.674081743, 0.0536895171));
  r0.xyz = r0.xyz + -r0.www;
  r0.xyz = r0.xyz * float3(0.930000007, 0.930000007, 0.930000007) + r0.www;
  r0.xyz = max(float3(0, 0, 0), r0.xyz);
  r0.w = cmp(cb0[26].w == 0.000000);
  if (r0.w != 0) {
    r2.x = dot(r1.xyz, cb0[19].xyz);
    r2.y = dot(r1.xyz, cb0[20].xyz);
    r2.z = dot(r1.xyz, cb0[21].xyz);
    r0.w = dot(r1.xyz, cb0[24].xyz);

where right above the max0 [or after] would be untonemapped?

[spare bane]

usually there's a branch for mobile tonemapper

0.93 is ACES RRT desaturation

[elfin lance]

thought I found that

so yea thats long after untonemapped

yea I ahve no idea

I can set it right above the matrix with 1.705

but it feels wrong

could this be all the grading it gets?

  SetUngradedAP1(r0.xyz);

  r0.xyz = r0.xyz + -r0.www;
  r0.xyz = cb0[36].xyz * r0.xyz + r0.www;
  r0.xyz = max(float3(0, 0, 0), r0.xyz);
  r0.xyz = float3(5.55555534, 5.55555534, 5.55555534) * r0.xyz;
  r0.xyz = log2(r0.xyz);
  r0.xyz = cb0[37].xyz * r0.xyz;
  r0.xyz = exp2(r0.xyz);
  r0.xyz = float3(0.180000007, 0.180000007, 0.180000007) * r0.xyz;
  r1.xyz = float3(1, 1, 1) / cb0[38].xyz;
  r0.xyz = log2(r0.xyz);
  r0.xyz = r1.xyz * r0.xyz;
  r0.xyz = exp2(r0.xyz);
  r0.xyz = r0.xyz * cb0[39].xyz + cb0[40].xyz;

untonemappedAP1 = r0?

  r1.x = dot(float3(1.70505154, -0.621790707, -0.0832583979), r0.xyz);
  r1.y = dot(float3(-0.130257145, 1.14080286, -0.0105485283), r0.xyz);
  r1.z = dot(float3(-0.0240032747, -0.128968775, 1.15297174), r0.xyz);
  r0.x = dot(float3(0.439700812, 0.382978052, 0.1773348), r1.xyz);
  r2.y = dot(float3(0.0897923037, 0.813423157, 0.096761629), r1.xyz);
  r2.z = dot(float3(0.0175439864, 0.111544058, 0.870704114), r1.xyz);

[spare bane]

seems like

[elfin lance]

that was my first guess

[spare bane]

not a lot of linear grading in old ue

[elfin lance]

but it felt "wrong" lol

[spare bane]

just some weak contrast

[elfin lance]

now this feels scuffed

    SetTonemappedBT709(r2.xyz);

  } else {
    r3.x = dot(float3(1.70505154, -0.621790707, -0.0832583979), r0.xyz);
    r3.y = dot(float3(-0.130257145, 1.14080286, -0.0105485283), r0.xyz);
    r3.z = dot(float3(-0.0240032747, -0.128968775, 1.15297174), r0.xyz);

    SetTonemappedBT709(r3.xyz);

    r2.xyz = max(float3(0, 0, 0), r3.xyz);
  }

[spare bane]

did you add the branch?

that's fine

[elfin lance]

fixed builders

yes

building mod

[spare bane]

you added a branch?

nah you didn't

it's fine because settonemappedbt709 retains the negative that the next line of max(0 will clamp

[elfin lance]

@fierce lava please try this version of the addon; it has the lutbuilders you found added into it -- you might have to upgrade some stuff; B8G8R8A8_Typeless is a popular one -- remember to restart the game

[elfin lance]

thought you meant the regex stuff that adds [branch] before the output device

one was found (the output device cbuffer)

the other was not found

this

I didnt add any ifs myself -- except the generate output

[elfin lance]

isnt that the reason we put it above the max0?

[elfin lance]

with those lutbuilder, vscode found (\s+)if \((cb\d+\[\d+\]\.)(x|y|z|w)+ ([!=]= 0\) \{) -- the output device branch where we do generateoutput

but didnt find = (cb\d+\[\d+\]\.)(x|y|z|w)+ \?

[spare bane]

you're basically looking for assigning a value from a cbuffer. it will read them as float, but should be asuint

[elfin lance]

yep

I learned about the asuint memes with atelier yumia

where the cbuffer is float, but the code expects uint or something else

so we have to cast it properly

is this the branch you where talking about adding?

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/5879380a61cbf838cacb4db9602cfa344a0e80d0/src/games/unrealengine/lutbuilders/sm5/lutbuilder_0x1BA80C5E.ps_5_x.hlsl#L273

ngl idk how the branch flag works 100%; thought it was just compiler microoptimization

[spare bane]

nah, the other branch that was in the code

btw, 3dmigoto doesn't force branch

[elfin lance]

ik

[spare bane]

technically all if in 3dmitogo should be [branch]

[elfin lance]

interesting

I mean no harm in adding it above the if I guess

  //r0.w = cmp(cb0[26].w == 0.000000);
  // if (r0.w != 0) {
  [branch]
  if (asuint(cb0[26].w) != 0.f) {
// mobile tonemapper

y/n ?

new warning when I add asuint -- [build] C:\Users\desktop\source\repos\renodx\src\games\ue-dev\lutbuilders\sm5\lutbuilder_0x4E0CDC69.ps_5_x.hlsl(313,7-30): warning X3203: signed/unsigned mismatch, unsigned assumed

btw this might be a stupid ass quetsion but

  if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE != 0) {
    o0 = GenerateOutput(r2.xyz);
    return;
  }

// why fix below, adding a branch/casting uint
// if we return the shader anyway
// better vanilla support?
  [branch]
  if (asuint(cb0[65].z) == 0) {

[elfin lance]

uint is unsigned -- wonder why it assums I want unsigned if I'm legit writing out asuint()

[elfin lance]

ima brb and take a nap, Alex if you test this mod with Styx; let me know how it is and I'll add it to the universal unreal mod

[languid escarp]

by chance, does anyone here have a good preset for wuthering waves?

[bold gulch]

this person might

[languid escarp]

thank you!

[finite copper]

I am using this in dq 3 remastered on the steam deck and it seems to be working so far, but I'm not sure if I should touch any of the sliders or leave them all at default. Has anyone messed around with dq 3? I didn't find anything really searching through the discord.

[left narwhal]

Playd another hour or so of Split Fiction today with Reno UE universal, so far so good, @elfin lance

[elfin lance]

idk if you have access to lilium's analsys shader or not -- but you should check if there is anything etting clamped

outside of potentially upgrading B8G8R8A8_Typeless; you should be fine

also let me know how it is; I'll add it to the wiki

[elfin lance]

ima just buy dyx: shards of darkness

[fierce lava]

It works! You need to set R8G8B8A_Typeless and B8G8R8A8_Typeless to Output size for it to work in main menu and in game. These two lutbuilders are from the main menu and first level, so there might be more.

[elfin lance]

I'm playing the game rn

it seems dark a.f

lutbuilders might be broken

[fierce lava]

sdr seemed very dark but it is a game about hiding in shadows

[elfin lance]

yea ik

but idk if this guy cranked his brightness up

but hdr looks nothing like that

wait nvm

it looks fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5jRodZrXRg

false alarm

game is dark a.f

[fierce lava]

will get everspace later todays, its like 1 dollar at gog. hdr potential seems high for this game, its probably on an ue version as old as styx

[elfin lance]

yea I'm playing rn lol

got it for 2$

[elfin lance]

@spare bane

[spare bane]

if (asuint(cb0[26].w) != 0.f) { should be 0u

@elfin lance

Ya dun goofed

[viscid mirage]

hmm tried that, nothing changed. I think attaching the debugger works correctly, can set breakpoints and step through the code. I think the crash is simply down to something else. Well, it's caused by reshade/the addon, but it crashes further along or something

get the UE crash window in remnant for example

[spare bane]

Time to check piece by piece, remove the swapchain proxy first

I'm assuming no upgrades

[elfin lance]

o shit

fuck me

habbit

no wonder

I got a error

new warning when I add asuint -- [build] C:\Users\desktop\source\repos\renodx\src\games\ue-dev\lutbuilders\sm5\lutbuilder_0x4E0CDC69.ps_5_x.hlsl(313,7-30): warning X3203: signed/unsigned mismatch, unsigned assumed

lets see if it makes a difference

no warning this time

@spare bane I was blind, but now I can see

@fierce lava please use this version; the one I sent you is hard griefed

well we learned a lesson today

I should probably start leaving 0 as 0

my understanding is 0 doesnt need any .f or u

0 is 0

hmm there might be more memes -- og vs. addon

there are other fx shaders that draw after the game; I wonder if that could be the issue?

them getting fed a like encoded color

lets try the other thing asint

still dark

but I think its a bit better?

srgb gamma, original vs. addon [vanilla]

yea no idea; messing with the post shaders; but they dont seem to change much

this is the post fx shader

messign with tis

[spare bane]

runs always?

[elfin lance]

yea

I think I got it

[spare bane]

then have lutbuilder send out untonemapped_graded

see oblivion

[elfin lance]

well not "always"

main menu doesnt exist

just lutbuilder

nope has an encoded look

[viscid mirage]

@spare bane I think I've isolated the crash, it's caused by adding the prevent fullscreen setting in AddAdvancedSettings

if I build an addon with this removed, theres no crash in vampyr and remnant

  {
    auto* setting = new renodx::utils::settings::Setting{
        .key = "PreventFullscreen",
        .value_type = renodx::utils::settings::SettingValueType::INTEGER,
        .default_value = 0.f,
        .label = "Prevent Fullscreen",
        .section = "Resource Upgrades",
        .tooltip = "Prevent exclusive fullscreen for proper HDR",
        .labels = {
            "Disabled",
            "Enabled",
        },
        .on_change_value = [](float previous, float current) { renodx::mods::swapchain::prevent_full_screen = (current == 1.f); },
        .is_global = true,
        .is_visible = []() { return settings[0]->GetValue() >= 2; },
    };

    renodx::mods::swapchain::prevent_full_screen = (setting->GetValue() == 1.f);
    add_setting(setting);
  }```

thats pretty weird, since it defaults to off

and its not toggled on in my reshade.ini

[spare bane]

settings[0] maybe

weird though

[viscid mirage]

yea

[spare bane]

try removing the is_visible, add_setting, on_change_value until it stops crashing

[elfin lance]

yep menus are lutbuilder only

[spare bane]

what does output write to then?

swapchain?

[elfin lance]

I have good news and bad news

good news: if I set AA under ultra; the shader doesnt draw; just the lutbuilder setup

bad news: its still dark/griefed -- so it seems to be a lutbuilder issue -- or the sample shader does something different because this is an ancient version of UE

[spare bane]

nah, must be lutbuilder issues

maybe maybe some weird blend, but devkit would say it

[elfin lance]

nothing unusual

could it be the game is not on the filmic tonemapper

or would that not even matter

[spare bane]

@viscid mirage ```cpp
add_setting(setting);
renodx::mods::swapchain::prevent_full_screen = (setting->GetValue() == 1.f);

invert the order

[elfin lance]

UE 4.13

[spare bane]

hmm, no srvs

remove the resource filter option in Settings

[spare bane]

yeah, it writes to swapchain

[elfin lance]

yea I didnt need upgrades

for the game to work

[spare bane]

so you can easily pass a cbuffer, if swapchain write then do tonemappass + renderintermediate

[elfin lance]

there is unorm_srgb in the

[spare bane]

if not swapchain then leave as it for next shader

[elfin lance]

devkit

[spare bane]

391x167

[viscid mirage]

inverting the order works if the option is enabled, but crashes when its turned off

[spare bane]

so the game needs ForcedBorderless

[viscid mirage]

I needed to replace renodx::mods::swapchain::prevent_full_screen = (setting->GetValue() == 1.f); with

if (setting->GetValue() == 1.f) {
      renodx::mods::swapchain::prevent_full_screen = true;
}

[spare bane]

and it was never reading the ini before

[elfin lance]

ok found the draw

[spare bane]

that should be the same. setting just had to be loaded first via add_setting

[elfin lance]

0x4E is the lutbuilder

its like almost 5am, break time lol

[viscid mirage]

thats what I thought as well, but with the prevent fullscreen option disabled it crashes with the current shorthand form, and doesn't crash with the if for some reason

just tested again

[elfin lance]

do we know any games that are known no filic tonemap

and might be on an older UE version

might be worth trying to fix them up too

and see if the same issue pops up

[spare bane]

there was one recently. which is why i had to add settonemappedbt709 in both branches

[elfin lance]

mobile and regular?

guess non filmic is just mobile tonemapper then

thats not the issue then

maybe these ancient lutbuilders (or w/e this game does) is just making 3dm cry

[viscid mirage]

@spare bane do you want to fix the prevent fullscreen setting yourself real quick

or do you want me to make a PR

[spare bane]

already commited, but what changed between 09 and 10 is that i made prevent fullscreen off by default

should honestly just revert that to being on

[elfin lance]

what about the

other thing

revert state

[spare bane]

was for Kal anyway

but the option didn't exist to disable it, and i then i figured it was safer to leave it off. seems like it was safer to prevent fullscreen

[elfin lance]

to be fair, I'm not a big fan of when games force FSE

and move all my icons to the side monitor

[viscid mirage]

ah. well with the shorthand it'll still crash, I can't tell you why tho xD

[elfin lance]

I spend a fair bit of time making my icons autistically nice

based on what I'm currently playing

so it sucks when a game forces a lower res + FSE, and then griefs all my icons

and I have to pray they go back to normal when I close it

but that didnt happen in a deacade

[spare bane]

well, i pushed it to be default on, i can debug what's going on with the shorthand

but wouldn't matter on clean setups since the ini will have it on

[elfin lance]

like the game I'm testing now on first launch moved my icons/went FSE -- but it restored them just fine

[elfin lance]

well its only a few games that are griefed

[spare bane]

but not crash

[elfin lance]

it seems false is mostly fine

but probably more stable

but true fixs a few games UI

[spare bane]

exclusive fullscreen is buggy and variable by Windows versions, better off

[elfin lance]

as for stability, didnt do any long testing

[elfin lance]

100% agreed

but sometimes you dont have a choice

on first launch

whatever the game defaults to

like this game 1080p FSE first launch

had to pray my icons didnt go byebye

[spare bane]

i haven't heard of a launch issue in a game though. it's whatever Kal was doing

he said the window moved around, but also he helped me write the window position code, so i'm not sure what the problem was

did i also add borderless maybe? in the same commit?

[viscid mirage]

I think you pushed too much stuff now..

[elfin lance]

launch issues are rare now; if you turn on an older game (dx9/early dx11)

they usually default to FSE

and a low res

so it moves all your icons to a side window

its not something thats going to break anything

(usually)

just a pretty ass inconvinance

I was the type of person who used tools to force games to borderless a decade ago

hell since maplestory

dxwnd

because fuck fullscreen

[spare bane]

https://tenor.com/view/never-angry-no-im-angry-i-said-never-gif-18662823

[elfin lance]

styx lutbuilders somewhat fixed -- leaving here for archival incase I nuke my UE dev folder

[spare bane]

if (private_data->prevent_full_screen) {
    HWND output_window = static_cast<HWND>(swapchain->get_hwnd());
    if (output_window != nullptr) {
      HMONITOR monitor = MonitorFromWindow(output_window, 0x0);
      MONITORINFO monitor_info = {};
      monitor_info.cbSize = sizeof(MONITORINFO);

      GetMonitorInfo(monitor, &monitor_info);

      const int screen_width = monitor_info.rcMonitor.right - monitor_info.rcMonitor.left;
      const int screen_height = monitor_info.rcMonitor.bottom - monitor_info.rcMonitor.top;

      const uint32_t texture_width = private_data->primary_swapchain_desc.texture.width;
      const uint32_t texture_height = private_data->primary_swapchain_desc.texture.height;
      // Move to center of screen (game may be lower resolution than screen)
      const uint32_t left = trunc((screen_width - texture_width) / 2.f);
      const uint32_t top = trunc((screen_height - texture_height) / 2.f);

      RemoveWindowBorder(output_window);
      SetWindowPos(
          output_window,
          HWND_TOP,
          monitor_info.rcMonitor.left + left, monitor_info.rcMonitor.top + top,
          screen_width, screen_height,
          SWP_FRAMECHANGED);
    }
    reshade::log::message(reshade::log::level::info, "Preventing fullscreen");
    return true;
  }
  return false;

ahh

not sure why i do this though

[elfin lance]

btw I really like the new reshade build

no fx, no addons

I can manually enable fx if I want

[spare bane]

prevent fullscreen implies borderless fullscreen

[elfin lance]

wait no fx might be my ini setting

[spare bane]

that's your ini

i just install liliums

maybe i should just package lilium's

it's a good troubleshooting tool

[elfin lance]

yea voosh showed me a flag

that kills fx

which griefed clair for me

and enotria

[elfin lance]

if I release a nexus mod

can I package your dxgi/reshade

so people can just extract shit from a zip and enjoy

[spare bane]

ye. i think ritsu does anyway

[elfin lance]

yea ik ritsu does

thats why I asked

very nice, instructions are going to get significantly shorter

"extract this shit in the game folder"

"enjoy"

[fierce lava]

UE addons seems to work fine with Everspace 1!

[elfin lance]

do you need any upgrades?

[fierce lava]

Im using these upgrades. Im playing through GOG and im using the 64-bit version of the executable (RSG-Win64-Shipping.exe)

[north kindle]

Lmao guys is DBZ: Kakarot launching in HDR now by itself or just mine?

I had previously installed tried to inject HDR via RTX and then turned that off in favor UE config file forced-HDR
Then turned that off in favor of reshade AutoHDR.addon
Then deleted that for RenoDX UE addon
Then deleted RenoDX UE because the black levels were crushed, only to find that with everything reset back to default, the game is outputting HDR and the black levels are broken
Win11 AutoHDR has also always been off

I have no idea why this game is still in HDR even after fresh install and just running HDR analyzer tool

[spare bane]

sounds like you have a broken HDR output since the default black level should match SDR 1:1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAhxR-gMU_U

if your display on SDR looks different than on HDR with RenoDX (besides highlights and BT2020 colors) you have a calibration issue

[elfin lance]

@fierce lava styx fixed; I griefed the lutbuilder -- this one matches the OG

I made a pull request; so it should be part of the generic addon soon ™️

[north kindle]

the black levels on my TV are dialed in, as other games don't render shadows as 0 nit black

the issue I'm encountering in DBZK seems that this mysterious HDR rendering is overtaking the RenoDX addon (even the regular AutoHDR.addon) and breaking shadows, and I'm at a loss as to why it's still rendering in HDR despite a clean install

every other RenoDX UE game I've tested is rendering fine, just wondering if anyone else's DBZK is doing what I described

[elfin lance]

@fickle moth download the universal unreal engine mod: https://clshortfuse.github.io/renodx/renodx-unrealengine.addon64

now open the game and test if it works (move the blowout slider)

if the blowout slider does nothing

go to advanced ontop, enable "dump lut shaders", restart the game

inside of your game folder, there should be a renodx folder, and inside of it a file (or files) named lutbuilder_0xxxx

send me that

if the blowout slider modifies the game, that means its already supported by the unreal engine plugin

@fickle moth the game works perfectly fine with the unreal engine mod; I tested the demo

if you find an area where HDR doesn't work; you can enable dumplutshaders, and send me the files

but for now everything si good

[fickle moth]

😩😩

I'm working tonight.. Once I get out.. I'll be eager to check it

Thanks!!!!

[elfin lance]

np gl; remember to always to test the Unreal Engine mod when

playing unreal engine games

because there are a ton of games the wiki supports that arnt listen

listed

[dense cliff]

Just delete libxess or use it as the loader dll for a mod. libxess.dll has no exported functions so almost any game that uses it will happily call dllmain on any dll named libxess

[fickle moth]

i got a black screen , let try removing optiscaler

[left narwhal]

OIC.

How would I use it as the loader DLL?

I’ll just delete it, though. Considering I don’t wanna use that and just DLSS.

[elfin lance]

@fierce lava Styx is now built into the generic UE mod; and all the decompilation issues are fixed:

https://clshortfuse.github.io/renodx/renodx-unrealengine.addon64

I'll be adding it to the wiki; and what was that other game you played; with upgrades

let me know any game you find, and I'll add it ot the wiki

I started mission 2 in styx; and it seems to be using the same lutbuilders; but if you get further in the game feel free to share the shaders and I'll add them

[maiden sphinx]

Sword and Fairy 7 seems to work ootb

[elfin lance]

@tawny mist I remember liked that game

[elfin lance]

can you send me reshade.log for fun

[tawny mist]

Ohhh sick I'll have to try it with Reno

[elfin lance]

I'm curious what lutbuilders it uses

[tawny mist]

I loved how it looked with SK

[maiden sphinx]

seems clamped during a few attack animations

[elfin lance]

upgrade b8g8r8a8_typeless to output size

restart game

and tell me if it still happens

if you dont know how to upgrade; set the slider from simple -> advanced

drag b8g8r8a8_typess to output size, restart game

[maiden sphinx]

yep that fixes it

[elfin lance]

ty adding that to wiki

[elfin lance]

good ole 0xd2748e73

one of the OG lutbuilders

found in scarlet nexus

thats whats amazing about the UE mod, fix one lutbuilder

you add compat for 100+ games

[left narwhal]

Just tried this, and now the game has crashed. Basically stuck on this screen as the scene tried to change, I can't open OptiScaler or anything.

So, I'm assuming it tried to access XeSS and since I deleted both libxess and libxess dx11 files, it can't access them and just causes a crash.

And got this error now.

[elfin lance]

try getting rid of all fx

in reshade.ini delete the 2 lines with

EffectSearchPaths=C:\Program Files\Special K\Global\ReShade\Shaders\**
TextureSearchPaths=C:\Program Files\Special K\Global\ReShade\Textures\**

also does it work without optiscaler? is this a renodx issue or optiscaler issue?

@left narwhal

[fickle moth]

Yes I had to add a true to allow reshade.
Is working.
I'm not expert, but it does look a bit wash out, the same with Kena bridge of spirits.

Is that how is meant to look. Maybe I've been using SK a lot but I don't see the pop or highlights.

I lowered the shadows a bit to 45.

[elfin lance]

well if you've been using sk or other post-process HDR

those are a lot more lets say

bright

(for the wrong reasons)

if you want a profile that pops, mimics a "filmic/contrasty look"

80 contrast, 80 saturation, 80 blowout

[bold gulch]

SK by default deep fries

So you’re gonna wanna increase contrast or lower shadows and maybe increase saturation

For a similar effect

[left narwhal]

OptiScaler issue. And happens with or without effects/textures. as I only installed that yesterday locally.

[elfin lance]

there is a hdr look button, "bypass sdr grading"

it does 808080, but sets grading strength to 0

I'm not a fan of grading strength 0, so I suggest just 808080 -- and if its too much lower it to 707070, etc

@bold gulch get ready for some WOAT screenshots

vanilla -- reno -- reno sdr grade bypass -- reno 808080 fried mode

808080 is pretty nuts here; 707070 would probably look better; or maybe just increasing contrast/saturation a bit to 55 and not touching blowout

look at the highlight on his chest piece -- in bypass sdr mode its opaque blue because of grading 0

pretty much on every oled its safe to crank up contrast and saturation to 55

[left narwhal]

What does SDR grade bypass do

[elfin lance]

I'd have to write a wall of text

I really dont want to

[left narwhal]

lmao

[elfin lance]

but you can try it out and see if you like it

[left narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[left narwhal]

I'm not playing that game, not anytime soon at least.

[elfin lance]

all unreal engine mods

have a sdr grade bypass button

split fiction has the button

I guess the simplest explination would be is renodrt tonemaps a different color, and uses the color grading sliders to compensate for the unreal engine/ACES grading

while by default we use upgradetonemap, which creates a delta between 2 colors to generate "untonemapped + graded" -- which we then tonemap with renodrt

[warped lynx]

huh

kinda curious to see how it looks in p3r

[fierce lava]

Awesome! I've already added Everspace 1 to the wiki

[elfin lance]

oh pog, just make sure to add upgrades to the notes [if needed]

thanks a lot

[fierce lava]

No thank you for Styx haha

Easy to edit a bit if text all the other stuff is wizardry

[elfin lance]

no thank you, it let me see how an ancient lutbuilder looks like

[elfin lance]

honestly fixing an unreal engine lutbuilder

is 4 lines of code nowadays

you search for constants

and define a color

I wrote this up some time ago; this is sm6 but the concept is mre or less the same

pretty sure somebody thats decent at computers can learn to fix lutbuilders in a day

atleast generic ones, the styx ones where older so the colors werent in "the same place" as a generic one

[dense cliff]

I told you. Anything that already loads it will load a dll named that without needing to call a certain function

[left narwhal]

Well, I did your first suggestion and deleted the DLL and that just leads to a crash.

On a scene change, that is.

[austere pike]

WuWa seems to be clamped for me still. Not sure if there's been done anything to fix it since last time

[fickle moth]

Using ghe universal renodx for UE4,
With Kena I can't open the reshade menu.. Any ideas why

[spare bane]

You only need two files, Reshade and the addon. Sounds like one of the are missing

[elfin lance]

@viscid mirage all you had to do for Arise was safepow?

you didnt have to re-encode the color back to srgb; since thats what the shader expects the color to be in -- vs. encoded by intermediate pass?

[fickle moth]

there both there, but with opti scaler reshade.dll is renamed to reshade64.dll

[elfin lance]

just to debug

remove optiscaler

and rename reshade to dxgi.dll

if it works, then its a setup issue with optiscaller -- and idk shit about optiscaler

[spare bane]

Jesus, Reshade4.ini

[left narwhal]

What causes new ReShade1.ini, 2, 3, and so on to be created?

I thought that was an SK thing only.

I see ReShade2.ini and only when using it with SK.

[elfin lance]

you can make different loadouts in the menu

[left narwhal]

Loadouts as in presets?

[elfin lance]

yea

profiles and shit

[left narwhal]

Ah, okay

That explains it. I guess SK creates one of its own.

[elfin lance]

if thats not it; idk

[left narwhal]

I thought that one created a file called 'preset' in it, but not sure. Never bothered with it.

[spare bane]

100% no

[elfin lance]

is that only for fx presets?

[spare bane]

When a game creates multiple windows and Reshade has to support multiple windows it increments. Never seen a game do that and it's meant for VR setups. The alternative is Reshade can't read/write a file because of file access restrictions.

Practically, it only happens because of how SK loads/handles the ini

[elfin lance]

copy

[left narwhal]

Right, so in normal ReShade usage for flatscreen gaming, it shouldn't ever occur.

It did for me in ACS, cause I was using SK.

One of the ini would have all my configs, and the other would have very little data in there, I forget what, though.

I can probs delete files, and let it generate again.

[spare bane]

I don't know why it happens, but my guess is SK locks out being able to access the file/files and Reshade compensates by making another file

[elfin lance]

this is what I use; you can delete some stuff

you can delete NoReloadOnInit=1

the big ones are:
disabled addons (even though shortfuse's latest installer has that stuff off)

tutorial skip

effect paths

skiploadingdisabledeffects is nice because it only compiles lilium's analsys tool

[left narwhal]

Generic Depth,Effect Runtime Sync

That's technically not needed anymore with the new build ShortFuse has shared, the naked one without all that.

Since no addons exist now. But yeah, I keep that there.

[elfin lance]

there is also another small file I paste around, reshadepreset -- this has lilium's shader configured to be small, toggled by numpad1

this is what I paste into like every game

dxgi = reshade
other dlls = for sm6 devkit
devkit is devkit
the inis are my defaults

[left narwhal]

I forget exact details, but I think Kal added some kind of support so that if you're using central ReShade install on SK, and if it detects you loading one locally, it'll automatically stop using one via SK and such.

At least that's what I remember, I could be wrong here.

Launched the game, and it created these two files just now. One only has overlay, other has all the rest lol

[left narwhal]

I'd ideally just paste dxgi.dll + ReShade.ini in every game I wanna use Reno in, along with the addon64 file.

[elfin lance]

no idea what SK does; never used SK to inject reshade when I need to use addons

[elfin lance]

yep

and reshadepreset.ini if you want lilium's shader ready to go

since it gets annoying setting it up every time

I like setting font size to 50%, only show cll instead of r/g/b

[left narwhal]

Central Install of ReShade via SK works flawlessly, never been an issue. Always handy to have it that way, and be able to load ReShade at any spot I feel like, and use Lilium's shader and such.

Next time I launch the game, ReShade won't be auto on, etc. Always handy AF.

[elfin lance]

50% size for the cie graph/histogram

[left narwhal]

Yeah

[elfin lance]

also numpad1

[left narwhal]

Agreed

I think I'll keep 2 configs to copy/paste.

[earnest bolt]

It’s not always reliable at loading Reno, sometimes it loads Reno and doesn’t load reshade

[left narwhal]

One where I'm only using Reno, so I'd point it to the lilium's shaders/textures.

One where I'm using it via SK, then I'd just use it without or w/e.

[elfin lance]

so yea if you want something to copy and paste, this is good

[ADDON]
DisabledAddons=Special [email protected],Generic Depth,Effect Runtime Sync

[GENERAL]
EffectSearchPaths=C:\Program Files\Special K\Global\ReShade\Shaders\**
TextureSearchPaths=C:\Program Files\Special K\Global\ReShade\Textures\**
SkipLoadingDisabledEffects=1

[OVERLAY]
TutorialProgress=4

the only thing you have to change is the effect/texture path -- remember to keep the \** at the end

[left narwhal]

That comment is ONLY regarding ReShade, not RenoDX.

But yes, if you try to load RenoDX via central install, it's mixed bag. Works great for MH Wilds, doesn't for AC Shadows for instance.

And when it did work for AC Shadows, there was a big performance penalty.

Which it might be present in MH Wilds as well, but I never measured. I only did it in AC Shadows as I was running benchmarks and shit while toying with RenoDX.

[left narwhal]

This is my go-to for copy/pasta now.

Central place for all the screnshots as well, so I don't miss SK for not being able to take HDR screenshots.

[elfin lance]

get rid of all the etc stuff

esp the reno stuff

[left narwhal]

Why, don't I want that there, so my Reno window is always assigned where I want it to be etc?

[elfin lance]

the widnow is fine; but not the presets

[left narwhal]

[renodx]
DumpLUTShaders=0
ForceBorderless=1
PreventFullscreen=0
SettingsMode=0
Upgrade_B10G10R10A2_UNORM=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_UNORM=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_UNORM_SRGB=0
Upgrade_CopyDestinations=0
Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_UNORM=0
Upgrade_R11G11B10_FLOAT=0
Upgrade_R16G16B16A16_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_SNORM=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_UNORM=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_UNORM_SRGB=0
Upgrade_SwapChainCompatibility=0
Upgrade_UseSCRGB=0

This shit?

[elfin lance]

yea

[left narwhal]

DumpLUTShaders=0
ForceBorderless=1
PreventFullscreen=0
SettingsMode=0
Upgrade_B10G10R10A2_UNORM=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_UNORM=0
Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_UNORM_SRGB=0
Upgrade_CopyDestinations=0
Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_UNORM=0
Upgrade_R11G11B10_FLOAT=0
Upgrade_R16G16B16A16_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_SNORM=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_TYPELESS=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_UNORM=0
Upgrade_R8G8B8A8_UNORM_SRGB=0
Upgrade_SwapChainCompatibility=0
Upgrade_UseSCRGB=0

[renodx-preset1]
ColorGradeBlowout=0
ColorGradeBlowoutRestoration=50
ColorGradeColorSpace=0
ColorGradeContrast=50
ColorGradeExposure=1
ColorGradeFlare=0
ColorGradeHighlights=50
ColorGradeHighlightSaturation=100
ColorGradeHueCorrection=100
ColorGradeHueShift=50
ColorGradeSaturation=50
ColorGradeSaturationCorrection=100
ColorGradeShadows=50
ColorGradeStrength=100
GammaCorrection=1
ToneMapGameNits=203
ToneMapHueProcessor=0
ToneMapPeakNits=800
ToneMapType=1
ToneMapUINits=203```

Gonna nuke this.

[elfin lance]

honestly I'd nuke most of that ini

[left narwhal]

Alpha=1.000000
ChildRounding=0.000000
ColFPSText=1.000000,1.000000,0.784314,1.000000
EditorFont=
EditorFontSize=26
EditorStyleIndex=0
Font=
FontSize=26
FPSScale=1.000000
FrameRounding=0.000000
GrabRounding=0.000000
HdrOverlayBrightness=203.000000
HdrOverlayOverwriteColorSpaceTo=0
LatinFont=
PopupRounding=0.000000
ScrollbarRounding=0.000000
StyleIndex=2
TabRounding=5.000000
WindowRounding=0.000000```

This can remain, too.

ForceShortcutModifiers=1
InputProcessing=2
KeyEffects=0,0,0,0
KeyFPS=0,0,0,0
KeyFrametime=0,0,0,0
KeyNextPreset=0,0,0,0
KeyOverlay=36,0,0,0
KeyPerformanceMode=0,0,0,0
KeyPreviousPreset=0,0,0,0
KeyReload=0,0,0,0
KeyScreenshot=109,0,0,0```

What is this doing?

[elfin lance]

no idea; but stuff might change between versions

and you dont want to force your old defaults

[left narwhal]

tru

[elfin lance]

the only things you want in reshade.ini are the bare minimum changes you made

[left narwhal]

With bunch of that nuked.

Overlay, Screenshot, and Style can remain. Since that's gonna be same each time.

Disabling addons can stay, cause it's not harming and we don't wanna load SK anyway with it.

General looks good, too?

[elfin lance]

I'd nuke most of general too

less changes = better

[elfin lance]

thats why I only use this

[left narwhal]

EffectSearchPaths=C:\Program Files (x86)\Special K\Global\ReShade\Shaders\**,.\
TextureSearchPaths=C:\Program Files (x86)\Special K\Global\ReShade\Textures\**,.\
IntermediateCachePath=C:\Users\Umer\AppData\Local\Temp\ReShade
SkipLoadingDisabledEffects=0```

I guess just that is fine.

[elfin lance]

I had a dude ping me about my berserker mod [dx11] causing FPS loss -- tl;dr no sk = almost no perf cost

sk + reno/reshade = -20 fps

100 -> 80

[left narwhal]

I had like

10fps-ish loss in AC Shadows, lol.

When using central with reno

But when I loaded Reno locally and SK globally without ReShade there, it was fine.

[elfin lance]

I dont know whta tool is at fault; but nowadays if I use reno in a game I'm most likely not using SK

[left narwhal]

SK + ReShade = Fine
SK + Reno locally = Fine
SK + ReShade + Reno = Bad

[elfin lance]

there are some older games with horrible window management; and I might use SK for that -- but thats an exception

[left narwhal]

One annoying thing, though.

[left narwhal]

If I launch a game via SK and it's auto creating ReShade.ini and ReShade2.ini, and only putting all the juicy config in ReShade2.ini, as seen here ^

Then the copy/pasta method gets annoying, I have to manually paste that data inside ReShade2.ini instead of just pasting the ReShade.ini file in there

[elfin lance]

sk support is on the sk discord

[left narwhal]

Oh welp, one time thing anyway.

[elfin lance]

this is the unreal engine thread

[left narwhal]

You asked

[fickle moth]

i think i did a good ok , also i have a neo g7 odesey

[fickle moth]

i think those are presets that i named lol

[left narwhal]

What game is that

[fickle moth]

looks like i didnt need to rename dxgi ... lol things are working.. thanks again

[left narwhal]

Yeah, mine aren't any presets. Just auto created.

[fickle moth]

monitor

[left narwhal]

I know, congrats on G7

What game is that in screenshot.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1330470/FIST_Forged_In_Shadow_Torch/

Steam

F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch

Six years ago, the Machine Legion invaded and colonized the Torch City, which was originally inhabited by animals. Rayton, the former soldier in the resistance war, has been living in seclusion since then. After his friend is forcibly arrested, Rayton reclaims his mechanical fist and steps to his journey fighting back. And he never expects tha…

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

6009

Metacritic

81

▶ Play video

Nvm

[elfin lance]

looks like hdr is working perfectly fine!

[fickle moth]

yeah , those are presets that i made, i dont remember why though

[fickle moth]

si

[elfin lance]

if you find an area later on where hdr is broken; feel free to share a lutbuilder

you might need to upgrade b8g8r8a8_typeless to output size -- but outside of that, enjoy the game

[fickle moth]

i made some adjustments to it . like 60 another ones was 1.3 exposure , makes alot of diference and 80 saturations shadows 43 and contrast 60

[fickle moth]

im i now !!!

[elfin lance]

yea thats all preferance, set the sliders to what you think looks nice

[fickle moth]

contrast 70 or 80 too dark

[elfin lance]

imo exposure isnt something we normally touch

if you want to increase highlight detail/make stuff brighter

increaes highlights

exposure stays default ideally

you can try something simple like 60 highlights, 60 constrast, 60 saturation

[fickle moth]

how would i send the lutbuilder

[elfin lance]

you enable dump lut shaders and restart the game, and if there is a missing lutbuilder in a game; it will appear in the games folder

there will be a renodrt folder generated

[left narwhal]

Split Fiction stays winning with the UE mod so far.

[elfin lance]

yea when the UE mod works, its peak

[left narwhal]

aye

Did another 1.5hrs session just now, al good. No issues so far using the mod.

[elfin lance]

I played clair for hours yesterday, same mod (renodx-unrealengine)

so far so good

I think the recent reshade installer helped a lot

[left narwhal]

I wanna play that game at some point, but turn based isn't my cup of tea.

But hearing so much praise, and I loved the OST, so I kinda wanna give it a shot at least.

[elfin lance]

for me the game is mid ngl

but maybe thats just me not being a fan of non anime shit idk

maybe there will be a twist or something

like I heard people say the prologue made them cry

but it just felt like a mid prologue idk

dont get me wrong clair is one of the better games made in a long time

but I think its getting overhyped a bit

[left narwhal]

Fair

We'll see, if I get around to playing it.

[jovial trout]

wonder if this will work with gears 4

suppose I'll find out

oh, this game predates microsoft opening up the files doesn't it

yeah RIP only option for this game is probably autohdr/rtx hdr

[elfin lance]

is it not UE 4+?

or is it just your gamepass version?

[viscid mirage]

Yea there were a ton of artifacts without safepow

That's a normal output shader so after sampling the lutbuilder lut the color is already srgb encoded

Didn't have to undo that

I think there are still some (0.3%) invalid colors or something due to the sharpening

Considered adding an ap1 clamp

But I thought the UE addon should do that in the swapchain proxy

[empty thunder]

Did anyone try UE renodx with DQ11S?

[cobalt marlin]

Riven looks rather nice with its Native HDR but why oh why did they not offer any HDR brighness settings.. The UI is harmful bright ^^

Is there a whatever.ini setting to force a UI brightness value in UE ?

[cobalt marlin]

*UE5

Thanks to Lazorr for these

[elfin lance]

@viscid mirage the proxy shader should have a built in 2020 clamp

so if there are invalid colors, weird

[elfin lance]

I remember trying it out and iirc something was off

[maiden sphinx]

I tried it before I left home earlier, b8_g8_r8_a8 typeless output size unclamps but the blowout slider doesn’t work, some text turns into blocks and the vn scenes seem broken(?). I tried dumping lut shaders but wasn’t getting anything

[elfin lance]

yea

there might be compute shaders idk

but ther eis 100% something custom

generic unreal engine tonemaps to 1 properly

even upgrades wont unclamp the game

unless you modify the code

so if upgrades unclamp, that means there is some (or a bunch of) custom shit going on

I find a switch port weird though

[viscid mirage]

yea I thought so too

[elfin lance]

like every game I tested with WCG would clip at 2020

so maybe its a custom shader's upgrade grief

[empty thunder]

yeah same experience. Didn't go as far as seeing a cutscene but noticed broken texts in loading screen at least

[elfin lance]

the broken text is something else entierly

Does puredark's mod have MFG?

[empty thunder]

ah

[elfin lance]

and does it work with renodx?

[azure stream]

I'll just forward this here

this is using the reshade version pinned in #🧩renodx-dev

[azure stream]

so Satisfactory uses unreal engine 5.3.2.0

huh, the silent hill 2 renodx addon runs perfectly?

so does the oblivion remastered version

[elfin lance]

@azure stream give me 2 minutes

[azure stream]

I'm not sure if there's actual HDR information when using the oblivion remastered version

[elfin lance]

idk thats an sdr png

but I got a new version for you

[azure stream]

o

[elfin lance]

here

delete the old addon, use that

let me know if it works

[azure stream]

ah
lemme just figure out how to make reshade save HDR screenshots

[elfin lance]

if reshade screenshots are outputting sdr pngs

the game is in sdr

[azure stream]

well it does boot up, but I think I need to enable resource upgrades because it's a black screen

[elfin lance]

yea

r10g10b10a2_unorm, output size

and maybe b8g8r8a8_typeless, but only try that if you get artifacts or clipping

@azure stream ?

[azure stream]

uhh

hold on I enabled b8g8r8a8_typeless and got a crash

[elfin lance]

disable b8g8r8a8

you might only need r10g10b10a10_unorm

[azure stream]

oh with just r10g10b10a10_unorm I got artifacting

[elfin lance]

same as #🧩renodx-support ?

are you using the latest reshade version from #🧩renodx-dev ?

any other mods?

[azure stream]

nope, different artifacting

[elfin lance]

how do I get the UE5 version?

[azure stream]

pcgw

[elfin lance]

do I set beta participation to experimental?

[azure stream]

OH

yeah I'm using experimental build

[elfin lance]

yea download the game lets see

the crash was a seperate issue

that was fixed

as for artifacts, idk, lets see

I forgot i own the game

[elfin lance]

do you have any friends that have the game on EGS?

try disabling framegen

if it has it

[azure stream]

oh I think it's already disabled

[elfin lance]

its doing HDR though

[azure stream]

I'll take a look at my settings

[elfin lance]

the hdr is working perfectly

just artifacting

I'd like the product name for the EGS version

[azure stream]

I'm running the steam version

[elfin lance]

same

but when I commit this stuff to github

it would be nice to have both

[azure stream]

product name would be something like FactoryGameSteam-Win64-Shipping.exe right?

alright I tried disabling anti aliasing and lumen and the artifacting is still present

[elfin lance]

wtf there are no

.exe files

[azure stream]

oh

yeah about that

Satisfactory -> Engine -> Binaries -> Win64

it got me a few times

[elfin lance]

got it

lmao weird ass folder

[azure stream]

ah, the artifacting seems to be coming from the distant foilage

[elfin lance]

works fine for me

[azure stream]

if I look at my factory everything looks fine

[elfin lance]

how do I

check if distant folage is on?

[azure stream]

options -> video

[elfin lance]

I set it to

[azure stream]

okay maybe I'm pushing these too far lol

[elfin lance]

cinamatic

[azure stream]

you might have to start a new game if you've already got a factory 🤷

[elfin lance]

I get no artifacts

but its clamped to sdr

so I might need

more upgrades

let me set everything to cianmatic

my game works just fine

[azure stream]

hmm

maybe it's the environment I'm in

[elfin lance]

I also have

dlss on

[azure stream]

oohhh

I have DLSS off

and I'm on an AMD card

[elfin lance]

ohh

[azure stream]

ah yep, FSR completely removes them

[elfin lance]

amd gpus are known for artifacts

rip

ohh

fsr fixs it

pog

off to github

[azure stream]

kind of pog, but personally I prefer to play the game at native res

[elfin lance]

it should work

at native res

just set it to fsr native

either way off to github; this might only fix the steam version

but we can help epic bois out if they ever need hel

[azure stream]

yeah it works with no downscaling, although no downscaling has the distant trees have a little bit of funk to them

completely gone when going down to "quality"

[elfin lance]

interesting

what if you lower the foilage setting

this is an experimental branch after all

[azure stream]

I tried that and the without DSR, artifacting changes based on how much foilage there is, but it's still intense

I think I'll be fine with using DSR for now

[elfin lance]

weird stuff, might be an AMD issue

upgrades on AMD are weird

[azure stream]

oh yeah do note that I'm using driver version 24.12.1, since later versions tend to have driver crashes when playing VR, and since I frequently use VR...

[elfin lance]

yea amd is a mixed bag when it comes to this stuff

as much grief as nvidia's giving us

when it comes to resource upgrades and hdr mod

for now they're the best

there is one game I made, AMD straight up doesnt work

and somebody else made a mod, amd is also 100% rip

idk if its a game engine thing

or driver thing, or gpu sku thing

whatever genious made satisfactory

named it "FactoryGameSteam" for the steam version

which means the fix I added will only work on the steam version

so I need somebody who has the EGS version of Satisfactory to launch it once

so I can get the product name for EGS

also the .exe name is different for steam too

its factorygamesteam-win64-shipping.dll

[spare bane]

FactoryGameEGS.exe

[elfin lance]

I assume the the product name is

FactoryGameEGS ?

fuck it we'll just add the .exe for EGS

[elfin lance]

wait we need the UE .exe

so it would be FactoryGameEGS-win64-shipping -- lets see if google can help us out

..\Epic Games\SatisfactoryEarlyAccess\FactoryGame\Binaries\Win64\FactoryGame-Win64-Shipping.exe

...\Epic Games\SatisfactoryEarlyAccess\FactoryGame.exe

wait no its just "FactoryGame"

I'll just wait for somebody to post a reshade.log -- they might've changed stuff since the steam release -- google has a bunch of diff stuff

[spare bane]

I just googled it, you can find it I'm sure

There are cheat tools

[elfin lance]

google is just giving me factorygame.exe

I'm getting mixed results

one most from 8 months ago has FactoryGameEGS.exe -- but thats probably just the launcher

other posts have factory game and factorygame-win64

[elfin lance]

I was just googling FactoryGameEGS-win64-shipping.exe

[spare bane]

https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/other-fps-games/661834-cfemen-gir489s-satisfactory-cheat-2.html

[elfin lance]

yea it was on the third one for me; my first results where

steam forums for steam

[spare bane]

you're googling for a file you're not sure exists

[elfin lance]

then reddit with factory game

[elfin lance]

yea

[spare bane]

just google factorygameegs

[elfin lance]

ok that has better resulst

[spare bane]

https://src.mfgames.com/nixos-contrib/ficsit-cli-flake/commit/7cd93926c6f1d3e30cf889654319bc0abf97fb48

[elfin lance]

I guess its safe to assum ethe product name is FactoryGameEGS then

[spare bane]

var rootExecutables = []string{"FactoryGame.exe", "FactoryServer.sh", "FactoryServer.exe", "FactoryGameSteam.exe", "FactoryGameEGS.exe"}

[elfin lance]

oh shit lets go

VersionPath: filepath.Join("Engine", "Binaries", "Win64", "FactoryGameEGS-Win64-Shipping.version"),
LockfilePath: filepath.Join("FactoryGame", "Mods"),

the diff tells us

factorygame.exe no longer exists

so thats good

so yea ima just assume the new product name is FactoryGameEGS -- if somebody crashes in the future I'll fix it

man I'm really bad at googling

[viscid mirage]

Btw, if you ever encounter a dx12 game where the UE mod doesn't do anything even though all the lutbuilders are already included - you'll also need to add that prevent crashing line

Even though the game doesn't actually crash

Happened in nobody wants to die

[elfin lance]

yea ik

I found a ton of games

I always look at reshade.log

you search for "failed to replace pipeline"

some games dont crash, they just dont replace shaders

they need the same fix as the games that crash

[viscid mirage]

Ah ok

Wasn't aware of that

[full moss]

Is repo build the nightly one?

[spare bane]

Snapshot, technically

[elfin lance]

@viscid mirage would look something like:

10:05:14:484 [13476] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::BuildReplacementPipeline(Replacing 0x95b1e481)
10:05:14:484 [13476] | DEBUG | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Replacing pipeline for 0x95b1e481, pipeline: 0x000001c39130f430, index: 4, type: pixel_shader, stage: pixel_shader)
10:05:14:484 [13476] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Failed to replace pipeline)

trying to replace, and then Failed to replace pipeline

[azure stream]

might dump the LUT shaders for Satisfactory experimental

oh what the

the artifacting when an upscaler is disabled is almost gone

okay for some reason there's no renodx folder...

[warped lynx]

it doesn't dump compute shaders

[elfin lance]

@azure stream are you on EGS?

and yea for some reason the artifacting is only with native TAA

enable DLSS or FSR, and its perfectly fine

also all the lutbuilders and stuff are there

[azure stream]

still on steam

[azure stream]

I'm more surprised that it's almost fixed

but yeah it happens with

• no AA
• FXAA
• native TAA

[elfin lance]

FXAA usually griefs everything

idk what it is, but it sometimes even breaks games with native HDR

no aa and native TAA is weird

either way you should be using native DLSS/native FSR anyway

wait you're the guy from yesterday

mb didnt see the name change