✅RenoDX: Unreal Engine | HDR Den | Page 4

primal bane Apr 24, 2025, 12:52 PM

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Btw. you can add your own Engine.ini to %LOCALAPPDATA%\Sandfall\Saved\Config\Windows and the settings will work

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but you have to make the file readonly

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and maan, this game is a turn based souls like lol

tight acorn Apr 24, 2025, 1:10 PM

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²you mean an AA game by independant devs right ?

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patrick_notes

tired mulch Apr 24, 2025, 1:21 PM

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primal bane and maan, this game is a turn based souls like lol

Turn based

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Souls like

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What

rustic sail Apr 24, 2025, 1:26 PM

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unironically that's the best description for the gameplay lmao

kind bison Apr 24, 2025, 1:36 PM

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the bloom in exp 33 seems intense

distant shadow Apr 24, 2025, 2:00 PM

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Out of the box SDR or while using RenoDX?

plucky nest Apr 24, 2025, 2:04 PM

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I've just tried SOTR with Renodx, but I have noticed sliders did not make any difference. What did I do wrong?

glossy valve Apr 24, 2025, 2:08 PM

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It's not using lutbuilders afaik

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Will need a separate mod using outputs

flint ridge Apr 24, 2025, 2:09 PM

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Hi, apologies for the possibly stupid question. But how do I "upgrade B8G8R8A8_UNORM, B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS, and R10G10B10A2_UNORM to output size"? Thanks

exotic spire Apr 24, 2025, 2:09 PM

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You have to switch to Advanced settings mode.

flint ridge Apr 24, 2025, 2:10 PM

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Ah OK I'll take another look

near crown Apr 24, 2025, 2:12 PM

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Cutscenes are 16/9 with black bars, but on a 21/9 wide screen it also have the vertical black bars, can it be fixed ?

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Like just a zoom so it can take all the screen

warped rampart Apr 24, 2025, 2:13 PM

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https://github.com/Lyall/ClairObscurFix lyall is doing the usual uw fixes

cobalt marlin Apr 24, 2025, 2:14 PM

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Lyall is GOAT

near crown Apr 24, 2025, 2:14 PM

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Nice thanks, it's not out yet but soon i guess

hushed elbow Apr 24, 2025, 2:20 PM

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how is the french VO? anyone tried it?

near crown Apr 24, 2025, 2:21 PM

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yeah it's good, better than most other games but i'll go for a 1st run in english even though i'm french

distant shadow Apr 24, 2025, 2:23 PM

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Original VA is in French?

near crown Apr 24, 2025, 2:24 PM

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I don't know but lip Sync looks good in both

cobalt marlin Apr 24, 2025, 2:24 PM

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near crown yeah it's good, better than most other games but i'll go for a 1st run in englis...

Comment oses-tu ? lol
Nah, if the actual OG VO is english then it's the way

abstract eagle Apr 24, 2025, 2:28 PM

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hushed elbow how is the french VO? anyone tried it?

excellent

near crown Apr 24, 2025, 2:38 PM

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I think the og vo is english because sometime they speaks french ( with a weird accent xD "poutain poutain" ) and i remember in a english trailer a character speaks french with those monster like npc

left wolf Apr 24, 2025, 2:38 PM

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So i dont know what the issue is but the steam version of the game, no crashes in 2 hours

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game pass with hdr mod, crash essentially every 5mins

kind bison Apr 24, 2025, 2:38 PM

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distant shadow Out of the box SDR or while using RenoDX?

while using renodx fix, sorry for late response

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any way to tone it down a bit?

left wolf Apr 24, 2025, 2:39 PM

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also see: https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1364916085954183168

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for the actual game discussion thread

elfin lance Apr 24, 2025, 3:03 PM

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@viscid mirage I'll fix the cutscenes when I get home

it might either be: upgrading rgba8 or upgrading bgr8 with the aspect ratio of the 21:9 cutscene

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or you can try and fix it now + add game defaults; since shortfuse merged commits

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@left wolf you want the pinned reshade installer because of perf; also in an 30m-hour or so the unreal addon will finish compiling on gihub; and the official link will work with clair obscura

snow flare Apr 24, 2025, 3:30 PM

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I’m stuck at 203 nits. Do you know why? I restarted the game and everything is set up as intended

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frail bear Apr 24, 2025, 3:34 PM

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How can I enable the nits window on the right?

ashen herald Apr 24, 2025, 3:35 PM

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Liliums HDR analysis shader in reshade

snow flare Apr 24, 2025, 3:37 PM

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I don’t know why, but I disabled chromatic aberration, and now everything is fine

near crown Apr 24, 2025, 3:54 PM

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It's the bloom that make the image so grey ? When there is a fight, the image is great with renodx but during exploration it's grey and blurry even if I have deactivate CA and other effects

grim kernel Apr 24, 2025, 4:37 PM

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snow flare

dlaa is broken and also doesnt work with reno

queen turtle Apr 24, 2025, 4:46 PM

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Hi @spare bane ! I'm playing around with UE to prototype a game and the default in-engne HDR implementation seems to be quite limited. Do you think it's possible to create a generic UE fab.com plugin based on beautiful RenoDX codebase for drop-in HDR support in newly developed games? It could bring some revenue and help the developers at the same time. WDYT?

astral estuary Apr 24, 2025, 5:36 PM

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do I miss something? I restarted the game after setting these things, but the game brightness seems to only react to the UI brightness setting
It's expedition 33 and I'm using the unrealengine add-on from the snapshot release on github and Reshade 6.4

astral estuary Apr 24, 2025, 5:45 PM

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snow flare I don’t know why, but I disabled chromatic aberration, and now everything is fin...

Didn't work for me

old nebula Apr 24, 2025, 5:45 PM

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astral estuary do I miss something? I restarted the game after setting these things, but the ga...

i have the same bug, my peak brightness is locked at 203nits

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i'm using native hdr while waiting for the next build

snow flare Apr 24, 2025, 5:47 PM

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how can i activate native hdr ?

old nebula Apr 24, 2025, 5:47 PM

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snow flare how can i activate native hdr ?

📎 Engine.ini

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be sure to make it read only

snow flare Apr 24, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Thanks

zenith birch Apr 24, 2025, 5:51 PM

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With that sharpening post processing filter rubbish its pretty much unplayable right now. We need to get that one fixed first. It looks just horrendous.

feral plank Apr 24, 2025, 6:11 PM

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old nebula

What’s the path ?

wooden juniper Apr 24, 2025, 6:14 PM

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old nebula

do you combine this with the UE Renodx mod?

blazing wagon Apr 24, 2025, 6:14 PM

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astral estuary do I miss something? I restarted the game after setting these things, but the ga...

Same

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old nebula Apr 24, 2025, 6:16 PM

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feral plank What’s the path ?

%localappdata%\Sandfall\Saved\Config\Windows

old nebula Apr 24, 2025, 6:16 PM

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wooden juniper do you combine this with the UE Renodx mod?

no

feral plank Apr 24, 2025, 6:16 PM

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old nebula %localappdata%\Sandfall\Saved\Config\Windows

Ah thanks

astral estuary Apr 24, 2025, 6:43 PM

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RTX HDR at the moment seems to be the best option, would be nice if someone found a fix for the issue with being stuck at UI brightness levels

flint ridge Apr 24, 2025, 6:58 PM

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zenith birch With that sharpening post processing filter rubbish its pretty much unplayable r...

Doesn't this fix it? #1364916085954183168 message

astral estuary Apr 24, 2025, 7:28 PM

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astral estuary do I miss something? I restarted the game after setting these things, but the ga...

Did anyone find a solution to this? Are my settings wrong?

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I meanwhile also tried with the nightly build mentioned, also doesn't work

left zealot Apr 24, 2025, 7:38 PM

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I'll wait for marat to look into the issues

glossy valve Apr 24, 2025, 7:51 PM

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astral estuary Did anyone find a solution to this? Are my settings wrong?

You need to reload a scene for new settings to take effect

astral estuary Apr 24, 2025, 7:51 PM

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glossy valve You need to reload a scene for new settings to take effect

I tried

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I think I'll wait until it's officially out, spent hours already today trying to get it to work.

rain thorn Apr 24, 2025, 8:58 PM

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Thanks for this!

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:18 PM

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at night in the game, some objects or character models 'shadows' are kind of this Red Hue, not dark like theyre supposed to be. Is there a particular setting in in RenoDX I should be changing? Thanks for your time

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 9:28 PM

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upper zephyr at night in the game, some objects or character models 'shadows' are kind of thi...

the shader needs a clamp at the end

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 9:28 PM

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upper zephyr at night in the game, some objects or character models 'shadows' are kind of thi...

is this Vanilla though?

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:29 PM

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spare bane is this Vanilla though?

Im sorry, Im new to this - This is just running the game with the Reshade add on for Gamepass that I followed a youtube video for. How do I put clamp on it? If thats possible - sorry, totally new territory for me, modding HDR into games that dont have native support. Thanks for your time.

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 9:31 PM

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upper zephyr Im sorry, Im new to this - This is just running the game with the Reshade add on...

can you try the reshade version that's pinned in #🧩renodx-dev ?

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:33 PM

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Are you referring to this one? ReShade Setup.e5d213e.swapchaindesc-proxy

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 9:33 PM

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yes

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:33 PM

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Because thats the one I used for this install

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I used this Youtube video for a guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mjLVX3Vec

YouTube

JDSP

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 - Native HDR Added! (RenoDX)

Development and Reshade files are currently hosted on the HDR Den Discord: https://discord.gg/R2Bt3uptw6

When the mod has been fully tested will be hosted on Github instead - will update description when that happens.

Reshade Addon: #1321685184852135967 message

Modified Reshade (inco...

▶ Play video

left wolf Apr 24, 2025, 9:33 PM

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upper zephyr at night in the game, some objects or character models 'shadows' are kind of thi...

Youre the 2nd person reporting this issue, not sure if Kal. managed to fix it

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but I think it may be related to DLAA @ 4K

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 9:34 PM

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can you set the option to Off and share a screenshot?

left wolf Apr 24, 2025, 9:34 PM

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Kal had it running stock :/

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:34 PM

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spare bane can you set the option to Off and share a screenshot?

For sure, which Option set to Off? Like the entire RenoDX and just leave my HDR from Windows "On"?

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 9:35 PM

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upper zephyr For sure, which Option set to Off? Like the entire RenoDX and just leave my HDR...

RenoDX preset on the top has an Off setting

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:35 PM

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left wolf but I think it may be related to DLAA @ 4K

Im not able to run at 4k dlaa, I wish. Im running DLSS Balanced to 4k right now. DLAA killed my performance on this one for sure lol

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:36 PM

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spare bane RenoDX preset on the top has an Off setting

Yeah, just a minute, need to reboot game and take a shot

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 9:37 PM

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just in case, you don't have to reboot the game to do that...

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:37 PM

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well whoops, my bad lol. But It wasnt changing anything when I switched it to "off" in the Reshade menu.

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Rebooting now with it set to "off" from the start

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:38 PM

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spare bane just in case, you don't have to reboot the game to do that...

Thanks for taking the time to troubleshoot this with me, I appreciate it

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it looked so great during the opening daytime scenes, but ya, this shadow bug during night scenes just seems baked into HDR being on, even with RenoDX off

glossy valve Apr 24, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Gimme some time, working on a build

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 9:41 PM

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Haha. Nice work mimicking the exact same spot

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Thanks for your help as well. I hate being the totally ignorant newbie on a subject and relying on everyone else, but I am stuck in that situation in this case. I appreciate everyone's time

queen turtle Apr 24, 2025, 9:43 PM

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queen turtle Hi <@115289688037785602> ! I'm playing around with UE to prototype a game and th...

@spare bane sorry for pinging again, but I'd really want to know if it's something feasible.

spare bane Apr 24, 2025, 10:01 PM

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queen turtle Hi <@115289688037785602> ! I'm playing around with UE to prototype a game and th...

If you can link me to some documentation on what kinda plugin you're thinking about using I can look into it

elfin lance Apr 24, 2025, 10:14 PM

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I'm home

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whats wrong with the game

elfin lance Apr 24, 2025, 10:34 PM

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I think the 21:9 cutscenes are fmvs

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 10:36 PM

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elfin lance I think the 21:9 cutscenes are fmvs

Yeah, some of them are, some of them you can make run at 60fps though, someone already made a mod for that

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Like the ones 'in game' are at 30 fps by default, mod to make them 60. But the locked in cutscenes, youre right those seem pre rendered

elfin lance Apr 24, 2025, 10:37 PM

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upper zephyr Yeah, some of them are, some of them you can make run at 60fps though, someone a...

the reason I mention that is

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they're clamped to game nits

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so its not a lutbuilder issue; but more of a game issue

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 10:38 PM

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Oh ya, I would imagine we cant do anything about those. But if anyone is playing and wanted 60fps for the 'in engine' cutscenes, heres a link to mod them, https://github.com/Lyall/ClairObscurFix/releases/tag/v0.0.1

GitHub

Release v0.0.1 · Lyall/ClairObscurFix

Installation

Download the file marked ClairObscurFix_v0.0.1_Steam.zip or ClairObscurFix_v0.0.1_Xbox.zip from the "Assets" section below.
Extract the contents of the release zip in to the...

elfin lance Apr 24, 2025, 10:42 PM

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ok lyall confirmed the clamped cutscenes are 21:9

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alright so it seems the generic unreal engine side of things

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the clair obscur mod is pretty much done

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only thing left might be potential future lutbuilders

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also Ritsu plans on making a seperate mod that uses sample shaders

glossy valve Apr 24, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Mod's ready https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1365094340355035167

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 10:51 PM

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glossy valve Mod's ready https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1365094340355035167

Awesome, thank you, gonna give it a shot now

elfin lance Apr 24, 2025, 10:54 PM

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so known issue with clair obscur: dlaa clamps game to 203 nits; so use DLSS quality

upper zephyr Apr 24, 2025, 11:00 PM

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glossy valve Mod's ready https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1365094340355035167

It fixed the "Red" in the environmental shadows for me, but, the NPC face shadows still appear reddish. Might just be this scene, ill push further into the game to see what it looks like. But huge improvement, playable now. Thank you

glossy valve Apr 24, 2025, 11:23 PM

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Vanilla / NeutralSDR / Dice 1.f / Frostbite 2.f

@viscid mirage Thought you might be interested, I'm currently using dice and I like it

viscid mirage Apr 25, 2025, 8:05 AM

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glossy valve Vanilla / NeutralSDR / Dice 1.f / Frostbite 2.f <@208960001807613952> Thought y...

nice, although in my experience DICE with 1.f peak can sometimes grief things a little. Whereas DICE 2.f is much safer and only really adds a little bit of highlight sat when it needs to. or just make it user configurable

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for the vanilla path you're doing saturate in the PrepareLutInput func? is that really how its done in vanilla

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I'm actually not sure anymore how vanilla UE encodes the LUT input in the output shaders lol

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I thought its PQ, but I'm not seeing that in your shaders

viscid mirage Apr 25, 2025, 8:37 AM

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viscid mirage for the vanilla path you're doing saturate in the PrepareLutInput func? is that ...

yea vanilla completely clips with your mod

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and the cutscenes are also clamped

viscid mirage Apr 25, 2025, 9:17 AM

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UE mod | expedition 33 mod

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gamma correction is applied twice or something

glossy valve Apr 25, 2025, 11:14 AM

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viscid mirage I thought its PQ, but I'm not seeing that in your shaders

Used to be PQ, but apparently newer UE versions just log encode it

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I misunderstood that and thought it just saturates, comparisons above are without the saturate I just didn't push the code

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But now that I know lutbuilders are getting full untonemapped, I'll just add perChannelCorrections there

viscid mirage Apr 25, 2025, 11:40 AM

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Yea sounds like a great idea

viscid mirage Apr 25, 2025, 11:40 AM

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glossy valve Used to be PQ, but apparently newer UE versions just log encode it

That's kinda odd

glossy valve Apr 25, 2025, 11:43 AM

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I assume it's an optimization, PQ is heavier

queen turtle Apr 25, 2025, 4:25 PM

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spare bane If you can link me to some documentation on what kinda plugin you're thinking ab...

Sorry for the long reply, my timezone seems to be opposite of yours 🙂
I was thinking about either fab.com (epic's store for UE asstes and plugins) engine plugin/tool or UI/menu tool:
https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/fab/asset-file-format-and-structure-requirements-in-fab#tools&plugins

For example, this plugin wraps the Steam API calls and presents them as nodes for the editor:
https://www.fab.com/listings/d101542d-2534-4b2c-be16-e9b3e5cd4d04

Or this Menu System actually provides the UI for HDR settings and the blueprint logic of propagating the selected settings to the engine itself:
https://www.fab.com/listings/899d8fd6-ce40-4c4e-aa82-3fce041fe3ce

Currently, the built-in UE blueprints and c++ methods allow to use these display output types (docs https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/high-dynamic-range-display-output-in-unreal-engine):
0: sRGB (LDR) (default)
1: Rec709 (LDR)
2: Explicit gamma mapping (LDR)
3: ACES 1000-nit ST-2084 (Dolby PQ) (HDR)
4: ACES 2000-nit ST-2084 (Dolby PQ) (HDR)
5: ACES 1000-nit ScRGB (HDR)
6: ACES 2000-nit ScRGB (HDR)
And mainly 1000-nit ScRGB and 2000-nit ScRGB make any sense to use for HDR, but it would be great to have more granular option for configuring the output. There's no Max Brightness, no Average Picture Brightness options, no tweaking of EOTF in general. The RenoDX repo already contains the mapper/conversion logic and I suppose it's possible to pack it in a way that it's accesable as a node (or even as a pre-built menu UI) to use in editor.

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The main idea is to make full tweakable HDR easier to implement and use for devs using UE. We wouldn't be in the current situation with broken/disabled HDR on release in most UE games if those tools were accessable to the devs. The monetizations is just a pleasant bonus.

elfin lance Apr 25, 2025, 9:01 PM

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@glossy valve btw UE always defaulted to LOG -- its just in the early ass lutbuilder fixs; like smt5 days

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we swapped the input color from log to pq [not something UE did; something we forced]

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and then remember we did pq encode/decode in the sample shader

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when shortfuse started working on Crisis Core; he realized thats a waste of code

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and we can skip the entire sample shader if we keep the input color in the lutbuilder as log

north ginkgo Apr 25, 2025, 10:13 PM

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hey, sorry for the necro reply but is there anything special I need to do to use renodx with IN? I have been coping with RTX HDR all this time and had no clue someone did something for this game 😭

brave sand Apr 25, 2025, 10:15 PM

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north ginkgo hey, sorry for the necro reply but is there anything special I need to do to use...

need to install ReShade as d3d12.dll or else the game gets pissy

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otherwise, just set the upgrades on the wiki and it should works

north ginkgo Apr 25, 2025, 10:15 PM

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got it. thanks!

brave sand Apr 25, 2025, 10:16 PM

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if you need help getting it working, just let me know and i'll help you out blobcatheart

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 11:55 AM

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Some games are washed out after using this. Like hogwarts legacy or star wars jedi survivor

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off

tight acorn Apr 26, 2025, 12:07 PM

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you need to disable ingame hdr I think

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so renodx replaces it

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:07 PM

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but ive read somewhere that it has to be enabled

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ill try that, thx

tight acorn Apr 26, 2025, 12:08 PM

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I think for this specific mod

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it replaces the native hdr

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while for normal renodx mods

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it enhances the native hdr

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they work differently

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:11 PM

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yeah ur right

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Game HDR off RenoDX on

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but i dont see a difference between game HDR and RenoDX hdr, at last not in that scene

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or im blind?

tight acorn Apr 26, 2025, 12:13 PM

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I don't recall the issues with the native hdr

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and how renodx improves from that point

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you'd need to check 3d elements in game

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:14 PM

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so basicly. its ok to stick to game HDR?

earnest bolt Apr 26, 2025, 12:15 PM

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just use reno

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:15 PM

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k

earnest bolt Apr 26, 2025, 12:15 PM

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it'll be better than native i expect

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:15 PM

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will check hogwards legacy too then. its second game thats washed out

earnest bolt Apr 26, 2025, 12:16 PM

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you need the in game hdr to be off, that's why it's washed out

tight acorn Apr 26, 2025, 12:16 PM

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hogwarts should be much better

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:16 PM

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yeah, that guy above said that

tight acorn Apr 26, 2025, 12:16 PM

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according to koklusz jedi survivor native hdr isn't bad

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but yeah reno would be better anyways

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sicne you have more control

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:24 PM

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yeah looks good

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but before i was able to disable hdr in game, game crashed like 2 times 😄

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Forgive Me Father no RenoDX

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RenoDX

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it has no HDR setting in the game

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:34 PM

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abstract viper but i dont see a difference between game HDR and RenoDX hdr, at last not in that...

jedi survivor is very custom and need its own mod

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:34 PM

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it doesnt have it

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:35 PM

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tight acorn according to koklusz jedi survivor native hdr isn't bad

has rasied black floor but not gamma mismatch

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and some exposure boost i think

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:36 PM

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abstract viper it doesnt have it

UE addon doesnt work with every game

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some games need their own mods

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:36 PM

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i know

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:37 PM

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jedi survivor is one of them

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:37 PM

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well so far ive tested 5 ue games that arent listed and i have them

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all seems to work

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fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:38 PM

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game from small studios tend to work

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they dont custom stuff

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:39 PM

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san andreas, forgive me father, hogwards lecacy, alone the dark and jedi survivor

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:40 PM

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jedi survivor is just in sdr if you use that addon and turn off in game hdr

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:40 PM

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its not

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this image is HDR and its RenoDX and game HDR off

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just that i dont see difference between this

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which is game HDR only

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:41 PM

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is the contrast slider working

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:42 PM

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in the game or in renodx>?

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:42 PM

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reno

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:43 PM

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i dont think so

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:43 PM

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it is not working

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:43 PM

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but its still hdr

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:43 PM

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did you turn off auto hdr or rtx hdr

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:43 PM

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i have amd

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:43 PM

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try install lilium's hdr shader

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see how it looks like

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:45 PM

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fallow mica see how it looks like

which should i enable?

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:45 PM

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HDR analysis

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if its sdr analysis then you are still in sdr

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:46 PM

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fallow mica if its sdr analysis then you are still in sdr

but mate i use app to view images that says if image is hdr or sdr

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here

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fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:47 PM

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its this native ?

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:47 PM

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renodx

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:47 PM

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wired

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last time i check it

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it doesnt work at all

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what your renodx setting

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:47 PM

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hmm how can i show u that?

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if i just prnt screen it doesnt work

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:48 PM

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do you have gamebar

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:48 PM

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but they are basicly default i just bumped up game and ui brightness to 400

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no

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:48 PM

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abstract viper but they are basicly default i just bumped up game and ui brightness to 400

yeah thats it

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its still in sdr

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just in hdr container

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:49 PM

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_a16e89f6-961d-4c12-b0f1-cd9b29431de4.jpg

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:49 PM

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ya

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:49 PM

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Here is the more fashion way 😄

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:49 PM

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its sdr

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ui birghtness silde always work

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but it just control the overall brightness of the image

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:49 PM

#

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no my friends itsn ot in sdr

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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it is

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sdr in hdr container

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wait a sec

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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image looks exactly like in with game HDR enable

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the same

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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i can put any sdr image in hdr

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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abstract viper image looks exactly like in with game HDR enable

no

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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dude

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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way different

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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i showed 2 photos here

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:50 PM

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yeah

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very different

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:51 PM

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1 in game hdr

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:51 PM

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let me show you

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:51 PM

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and 1 renodx

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they look the same

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this is game HDR

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this is RenoDX

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:51 PM

#

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pay attention to highlight details

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looks very different here

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image on the right is sdr which looks clipped

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:53 PM

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ok how about hogwards legacy then

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it crash when renodx and hdr is on

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:56 PM

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they are very different

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looks at waveforms

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the image with renodx is just a very bright sdr image in hdr container

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:57 PM

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ok, so how to check if game is really hdr with renodx?

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:58 PM

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sliders work

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ui brightness should only control the ui brightness

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not that whole game

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:58 PM

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well

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:59 PM

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btw

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 12:59 PM

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in 99% of mods downloaded from here ui brightness controls both

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 12:59 PM

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if you pay attention the waveform of renodx

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you can see some artifacts near black

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which also indicates its SDR, because SDR is 8 bit

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these horizontal lines dont show up in real HDR

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 1:01 PM

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abstract viper in 99% of mods downloaded from here ui brightness controls both

then most of them is not working

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test them with lilium's HDR analysis shader

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 1:07 PM

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so it looks like that it only works with Forgive me Father and Sand Andreas

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for me KCD2 mod doesnt work at all

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none of the sliders works

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 1:08 PM

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KCD2 is not UE

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 1:08 PM

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yeah but still

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not a single slider there works

fallow mica Apr 26, 2025, 1:10 PM

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abstract viper not a single slider there works

https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1337078063481225277

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ask about it here

bold gulch Apr 26, 2025, 1:23 PM

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abstract viper but its still hdr

It’s sdr in an hdr container

bold gulch Apr 26, 2025, 1:24 PM

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abstract viper in 99% of mods downloaded from here ui brightness controls both

That means the lutbuilder isn’t being modified

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Because they do a bunch of custom stuff so it’s not part of the universal mod
The peak brightness doesn’t extend past the game brightness. It’s just setting an insanely high average brightness and callling it HDR. Equivalent to playing in SDR with your TV brightness set insanely high

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 1:58 PM

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Wuthering Waves

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I need help

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RenoDX, Ihanven't done anything yet

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No change to FG

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The screen lights up and goes dark, I don't know why there's a problem

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 2:19 PM

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bold gulch It’s sdr in an hdr container

I understand now. So I can confirm that GTA sa definitive edition works and forgive me father works too. In Both games sliders works without problem

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 2:48 PM

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https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1258518848064454708

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Haven't worked on it since July

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Pretty sure HDR support just needs cbuffer changes for SwapchainPass. I don't even think I need to change shader code

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 2:55 PM

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spare bane https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1258518848064454708

It has no mod to download though

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 2:55 PM

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Check the releases on the GitHub

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 2:58 PM

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its not there either

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or its somewhere i cant find

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 2:58 PM

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Sorry，I may know why

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THis is my problem

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 2:59 PM

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https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods its not here

GitHub

Mods

Renovation Engine for DirectX Games. Contribute to clshortfuse/renodx development by creating an account on GitHub.

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 3:00 PM

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spare bane Check the releases on the GitHub

there is a lot of threads here that doesnt have mod to download

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 3:03 PM

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abstract viper https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods its not here

That's the wiki. Releases

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Ah doesn't seem to be there. Hmm

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 3:03 PM

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Can you provide correct link then?

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Oh, it has no addon

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Just shaders

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https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/tree/main/src/games/jedisurvivor

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Basically for devs, not compiled

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Yeah I don't know how to use that

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 3:05 PM

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It would be for devkit. Essentially unfinished. I thought I had made a build for it, but guess not.

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 3:06 PM

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Does it take a lot of time to do that?

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 3:10 PM

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Probably would need to see if somebody wants to finish it up. @bold gulch was last messing with it

abstract viper Apr 26, 2025, 3:10 PM

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Ok

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 4:54 PM

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Ran into a funny bug/shader issue in Wuthering Waves

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these are supposed to be dark brown leaves

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 5:32 PM

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the main thing stopping it is the irrational fears of the community that makes skin mods and their attachment to a tool that's rapidly approaching obsolescence. The process of patching pak mods to work is not exactly easy but it's very safe for the end user. We patch the check, maybe they check if the check is patched but then we patch that check too nyehehe
Realistically though nothing will happen unless I make the effort to reach out to modders and convert them

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Well they developed it on ue5.0 initially then upgraded to 5.3 for the beta tests and only did 5.4 as a last minute thing for launch. it's a custom engine build so I'm sure their graphics pipeline retains a lot of characteristics of 5.3 and earlier

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Is lotf2023 the lotf on steam? I dont get what is the 2023 version

paper siren Apr 26, 2025, 6:31 PM

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There is a 2014 release with same name

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They used the same name for the reboot or whatever the new one is

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:32 PM

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rocky harness Ran into a funny bug/shader issue in Wuthering Waves

are you using the newer reshade or just 6.4.1?

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Using the one that's pinned in the renodx channel here

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the one with better performance

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:34 PM

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hmm.. does it happen with Vanilla tonemap option?

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Hmm I got black screen in lord of the fallen

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:36 PM

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upgrade rgb10a2

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:36 PM

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uhhhh how do I do that

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:37 PM

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hit advanced on the top

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:37 PM

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I have 6900xt

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:37 PM

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do it anyway

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we don't get a lot of AMD testing

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:37 PM

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ok but i dont know where is that like

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what option is that in reshade or whatever

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:38 PM

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you're probably on Simple, you have to change to Advanced

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Settings Mode

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it's related to a framegen buffer that rtx30x0 series don't get

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:39 PM

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oh that worked

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So I guess you can add 6xxx to the notes lol

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:40 PM

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🙏

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 6:40 PM

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spare bane hmm.. does it happen with Vanilla tonemap option?

Different kind of wrong, the leaves turn pitch black instead

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:40 PM

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hmmm, sounds like NaNs

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like invalid numbers

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:41 PM

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Ah damn EAC block didnt work

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 6:43 PM

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left is renoDRT, right is Vanilla tonemapper

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:44 PM

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Does that still work for you?

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 6:44 PM

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it did when I tried it

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last week or w/e I tested lotf2023

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:47 PM

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elfin lance last week or w/e I tested lotf2023

does friend also need it?

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 6:47 PM

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co-op probably wont work

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I think a friend tried to play co-op, and it didnt work for him with eac off

north escarp Apr 26, 2025, 6:48 PM

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how annoying

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 6:49 PM

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git gud and play solo GigaChad

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 6:57 PM

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rocky harness left is renoDRT, right is Vanilla tonemapper

the vanilla game has broken colors and relies on something that being "fixed" by the inherent SDR clamp

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i have to make some changes to track what shader you're using

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:38 PM

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RenoDT

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Vanilla

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RenoDRT

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Wuthering Waves screen changes between brightness and darkness

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:40 PM

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are you using frame generation?

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Using FG

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:42 PM

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turn it off

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:42 PM

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The problem encountered with FG is different from this one
The problem encountered with using FG is that the screen flashes abnormally

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:42 PM

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and see if the issue still happens

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oh alright, idk then

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:42 PM

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Turn off FG, the screen still lights up and goes dark

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I suspect that Kuro added something to Wuthering Waves that caused RenoDRT to not work well

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Because I have done a lot, reinstalling the game, reinstalling Reshade, turning off FG, etc. have all encountered screen flickering

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:45 PM

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idk anything about wuwa; but I see people talk about turning off

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some sort of "kurotonemapping" cvar

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in engine.ini

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:47 PM

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This is RenoDRT data, just like before

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Game works fine

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Okay,l'll give it a try

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:48 PM

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What screen flickering

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Characters jump,the sky brightens and darkens

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:50 PM

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I wonder if there is a shader that runs after the sample shader/lutbuilder

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try disabling kurotonemapping

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if that doent fix it

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somebody who plays the game needs to look into it I guess

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 7:50 PM

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I definitely do not have flickering

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:51 PM

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ohh

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disabling dump lut shaders

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that has a perf hit

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:54 PM

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tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:55 PM

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RenoDRT

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:55 PM

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tired mulch

kuro tonemapping off?

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

#

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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elfin lance kuro tonemapping off?

yea

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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bbb might have to turn off kuro tonemapping

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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honestly should probably tell everyone to turn it off at this point

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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help him

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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but it makes vanilla sortof unusable

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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FG has been closed

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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idk where the files or are what the cvar is

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I just heard people talkinga bout it

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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I don't have it turned off personally

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:56 PM

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because the game default's grade relies on having it on to work or everything is just super blown out

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 7:57 PM

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Eneine.ini has also been deleted

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:57 PM

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rocky harness I don't have it turned off personally

the clamping only happens on certain vfx

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like jump attacks

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try switching to yang yang

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look at the sky

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and then jump attack

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 7:58 PM

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maybe that's why those leaves are broken for me...

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I'll take a look

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 7:58 PM

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#1321685184852135967 message

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best way is for someone to get the missing output shaders unclamped

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jank way if you dont care about the game's original grade is to just turn kurotonemapping off

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every problem comes from whatever kuro is doing

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 7:59 PM

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I assume if I'm using renoDRT it being off shouldn't matter?

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:00 PM

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it does \

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#1321685184852135967 message

rocky harness Apr 26, 2025, 8:01 PM

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I guess renodx is just kinda borked for the game then?

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:01 PM

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make your own color grade for the game

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problem solved

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well, or wait for someone to fix it 🙂

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 8:04 PM

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r.KuroTonemapping=0

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:07 PM

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tardy bear r.KuroTonemapping=0

in engine.ini

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 8:08 PM

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Failed to fix

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doomer_wojak

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:08 PM

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show me your engine.ini

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 8:08 PM

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📎 Engine.ini

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:09 PM

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[SystemSettings]
r.KuroTonemapping=0

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make sure typeless upgrades are in place

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:11 PM

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I might try to mess around with Slitterhead later

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2631250/Slitterhead/

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the game has native hdr; but its shitty aces

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 8:14 PM

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Can't fix it

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🥲

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Magical Today

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:26 PM

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@spare bane it seems hue correction griefs this game (slitterhead) -- I'm using the new untonemapped ap1

vanilla -- reno default -- reno 0% hue correction

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it kills the green tint

viscid mirage Apr 26, 2025, 8:28 PM

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how does the scene look with scene grading strength 0, so just untonemapped

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:28 PM

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one sec

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default per ch stuff?

viscid mirage Apr 26, 2025, 8:29 PM

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they don't matter I think if you have the color grading strength set to 0

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get ignored

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:29 PM

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you're right

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:31 PM

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tardy bear Can't fix it

your setup is just borked

viscid mirage Apr 26, 2025, 8:32 PM

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elfin lance you're right

hmm that explains why it looks like that with the per ch stuff, but yea it breaks the scene here

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:32 PM

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everything works including FG

viscid mirage Apr 26, 2025, 8:33 PM

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probably because it's not supposed to be used for sdr luts

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:33 PM

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hue correction off looks solid though

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so its fine

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and yea

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the game uses an sdr lut

viscid mirage Apr 26, 2025, 8:33 PM

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even if you bring the blowout restoration back up to 50

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 8:34 PM

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tired mulch everything works including FG

FG has a problem, your problem is the same as the one I encountered

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Look at the sea of clouds below

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FG closing is good

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:36 PM

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blowout restoration is fine

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its just hue correction

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 8:36 PM

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Maybe I should try reinstalling it again

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:36 PM

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the cie diagram though despairge

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:40 PM

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tardy bear Look at the sea of clouds below

probably recording issue

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been playing for 30 minutes and its fine

viscid mirage Apr 26, 2025, 8:40 PM

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elfin lance its just hue correction

maybe the default should be 0 or 50 for that then

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:41 PM

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even 50 is too strong

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 8:41 PM

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tired mulch probably recording issue

Take a look at your RenoDRT data

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:44 PM

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might be saturation correction @viscid mirage

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vanilla -- reno default -- reno hue 0 -- reno hue 0 sat corr 0 -- reno hue 100 sat cor 0

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 8:47 PM

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tardy bear Take a look at your RenoDRT data

re recorded looks fine

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elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 8:53 PM

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nvm its just hue correction

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vanilla -- renodrt-default -- renodrt no hue

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 9:21 PM

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tired mulch best way is for someone to get the missing output shaders unclamped

Wait there are shaders you're still missing?

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For wuwa?

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This can extract the bytecode shaders from ueshaderbytecode archives, have to do some cross referencing with the actual source materials but should be able to get anything that cant be dumped https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UEShaderMapExtractor

GitHub

GitHub - WistfulHopes/UEShaderMapExtractor: Extracts and helps iden...

Extracts and helps identify shaders from Unreal material shadermaps - WistfulHopes/UEShaderMapExtractor

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:25 PM

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got 6 lutbuilders

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seems all the game has PS wise

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off to github

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 9:26 PM

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I can also send over the random Chinese fork of renderdoc I found that somehow works with every anticheat

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worked with Nikki so should be good for wuwa

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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this game is actually

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really fucking fun

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slitter head

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I was going through installed UE games for fun

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and I'm actually surprised

tardy bear Apr 26, 2025, 9:34 PM

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Wuwa

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I will install the game again

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I still encounter alternating brightness

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and darkness in the screen

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wojak_sunset

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 9:39 PM

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elfin lance the game uses an sdr lut

It's supposed to be only at the tonemap section. The right math is probably to also restore the SDR version equally so when it samples from the LUT it's not blown out, but that's super inconsistent

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:40 PM

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hue correction 0 is solid more or less

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was just curious

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Hue correction is basically take untonemapped hue. Per channel tonemapping isn't supposed to wildly change shadows

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:40 PM

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spare bane Hue correction is basically take untonemapped hue. Per channel tonemapping isn't...

ah that makes sense

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 9:40 PM

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SDR LUTs will

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:40 PM

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untonemapped here, with the new color atleast

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is too crazy

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since we moved untonemapped remember

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 9:41 PM

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Yeah, it's a balance of ungraded and actually tonemapped

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We should store both

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Ungraded AP1

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Untonemapped AP1 where it's always been

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:42 PM

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ungraded ap1 = new color [around the dot function]

untonemapped = old

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 9:42 PM

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Or lut input or something

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The thing is, I wanted to control the gain they do before tonemapping

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It's fine for oblivon, but not all ue

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:43 PM

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either way the lutbuilders are solid; so you can merge them

I assume if you add a new color

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you'll automate all of it

spare bane Apr 26, 2025, 9:43 PM

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I can go through it

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:45 PM

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spare bane I can go through it

thank you

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the clair obscur lutbuilders all use the new color for untonemappedap1

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and I think your oblivion lutbuilders do too

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also the slitterhead lutbuilders in https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/pull/201

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unless you manually changed the other sm6 lutbuilders; thats it

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 9:50 PM

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dense cliff I can also send over the random Chinese fork of renderdoc I found that somehow w...

not sure if @spare bane would be interested in that fork

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:50 PM

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oh?

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 9:50 PM

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works with every anti cheat? soy_point

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:50 PM

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even capcom?

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is it malware free

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ngl when I hear chinease fork

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all the red flags start going off

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because long ago before windows got ps gamepad support

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there was an app that handled it, and it was chinease malware

tired mulch Apr 26, 2025, 9:52 PM

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back then i think there was ds4 windows

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and then there was another competitor

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input mapper or something

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then it died

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only ds4windows left

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and that died too

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 9:52 PM

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idr the names

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but now the only thing that matters is

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steaminput

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GigaChad

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Do you want me to close my pull request for now while you figure out the ungraded/graded stuff?

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:17 PM

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@torpid glacier

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I added remnant2 to the unreal engine modlist long ago

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https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods

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you just have to Upgrade R10G10B10A2_UNORM, output size

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to do that set the top slider to advanced, drag R10G10B10A2_UNORM to the right until it says "output size", restart the game, and enjoy

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it should look like this

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:19 PM

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elfin lance you just have to `Upgrade R10G10B10A2_UNORM, output size`

ok. thats a massive thank you from me. and just to confirm this setting is in the reno gui. right?

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:19 PM

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elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:21 PM

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torpid glacier ok. thats a massive thank you from me. and just to confirm this setting is in th...

yes

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press home

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also use the reshade installer pinned here

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:21 PM

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elfin lance

understood. thank you. I didn't mess much with the gui in expedition so wasn't sure. And can this be done for Banishers as well? thats another unreal engine game

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:21 PM

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I think there is already a banishers mod

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idk if its ont he wiki or not

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:22 PM

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elfin lance I think there is already a banishers mod

i didn't see it in the reno github list

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:22 PM

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yea we need to do a better job adding games to the wiki kekwsit

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but yea you can always try banishers

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it seems the banishers lutbuilders are in the code

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you might have to upgrade, if it doesnt work out of the box try upgrading:

B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS, B8G8R8A8,UNORM, R10G10A2_UNORM

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:26 PM

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elfin lance you might have to upgrade, if it doesnt work out of the box try upgrading: B8G8...

wow! thank you so much

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:26 PM

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np, gl and enjoy

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I tested all the remnant 2 biomes; so I think I got all the shaders

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:33 PM

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elfin lance I tested all the remnant 2 biomes; so I think I got all the shaders

perfect. I'm so excited. I really want to play that game in hdr

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:33 PM

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same

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I posted some pics a while back

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.

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:34 PM

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elfin lance I posted some pics a while back

thank you. You are doing God's work

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:34 PM

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.

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thank shortfuse; he did all the heavy lifting

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us greennames just get to fix individual games since the "framework" is done

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remnant2 should probably look way better on the current version of the mod

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:36 PM

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elfin lance remnant2 should probably look way better on the current version of the mod

Really that game is just one of my favorites and thanks for showing it some love

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:37 PM

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elfin lance remnant2 should probably look way better on the current version of the mod

also have a quick about expedition so I'll switch to that thread

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 10:43 PM

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elfin lance is it malware free

Oh yeah it totally looks sus as hell and it trips a bunch of virus scans but so does plain render doc

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Anything that bundles python and a debugger will

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Seems totally clean, nothing extra changed in my registry, no network connections etc.

And ok idk about every anticheat but it worked with Nikki and marvel rivals and eac can be disabled in 9/10 games anyway. No clue about Capcom.

I actually hadn't opened the dlls yet but I had a quick look at the main one and lol turns out the main thing is that they signed their loader with some really good (stolen I assume) certs but I mean that does work at least until it doesn't

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:48 PM

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capcom has some sort of meme anti tamper

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 10:48 PM

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It does crash a bit more often than normal renderdoc so I just kinda swap over after I make the recordings. I assume it's just because it's a fork compiled by some random guy

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But don't people mod the hell out of Capcom games

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:48 PM

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dense cliff But don't people mod the hell out of Capcom games

REFramework modifies the anti-tamper a bit

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to allow proxy dlls

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but it doesnt completely remove it

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and I dont think it removes the debugger check

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Oh well I know roughly how reframework works since ive been working on uevr which uses the same techniques and is the same author so I'm guessing that's a very easy thing to change

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:50 PM

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apparently its 1 instruction for proxy .dlls

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 10:50 PM

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There's a lot of intentional nerfing in those mods and even so they're still the best hacking tools I've seen

elfin lance Apr 26, 2025, 10:50 PM

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anyawy ima brb, shortfuse if you need me to change anything in the slitterhead lutbuilders ping me; I'll be home after 9est

dense cliff Apr 26, 2025, 10:53 PM

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If you guys ever need console commands for ue, well first try ue4ss, but then when that has issues you could instead just use uevr and tick a couple boxes to disable VR. You can't move your camera around or attach it to objects but everything else (sdk generation, lua api, live object browser, console commands) just works. Useful for debug if nothing else

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Will cause the same kind of swpchain oddities as reframework

torpid glacier Apr 26, 2025, 10:54 PM

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elfin lance anyawy ima brb, shortfuse if you need me to change anything in the slitterhead l...

Do you have a patreon where i can make a donation?

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 12:53 AM

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torpid glacier Do you have a patreon where i can make a donation?

@torpid glacier @spare bane 's kofi

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it should be a link in the unreal engine addon

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https://ko-fi.com/shortfuse

torpid glacier Apr 27, 2025, 3:16 AM

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elfin lance <@490812928090701836> <@115289688037785602> 's kofi

Do you have patreon instead?

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:17 AM

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I appreciate the offer, but no -- I dont accept donations; donate to shortfuse or the hdr den instead prayge

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I just make mods for fun

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 3:19 AM

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torpid glacier Do you have patreon instead?

i have to upload my goverment issued ID

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decided not to

torpid glacier Apr 27, 2025, 3:20 AM

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spare bane i have to upload my goverment issued ID

This one was asking for my billing address. Its pretty straightforward to donate on patreon from my experience

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:21 AM

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pretty sure every payment processor needs a billing address; you probably just have your card saved on patreon

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or paypal setup

torpid glacier Apr 27, 2025, 3:22 AM

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elfin lance pretty sure every payment processor needs a billing address; you probably just h...

I’m not sure how it works exactly but the page was kinda setup like I’m receiving a shipment

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:22 AM

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oh no

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billing address is just to confirm you didnt steal somebody's card

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shipping address is when you get a package

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 3:24 AM

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i don't think you have to with paypal though

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credit card should just be zip code

torpid glacier Apr 27, 2025, 3:24 AM

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elfin lance billing address is just to confirm you didnt steal somebody's card

Yep yep exactly. See it says here

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:25 AM

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ko-fi is a pretty trusted site; so I wouldn't worry too much about it

torpid glacier Apr 27, 2025, 3:25 AM

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Like this is going to be shared with you guys as a seller if I put it in not just PayPal

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:26 AM

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good question

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I actually dont know

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@spare bane do you see stuff like billing address of the people who donate on kofi?

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 3:27 AM

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oof, if i do stripe, i need to give people my personal address

torpid glacier Apr 27, 2025, 3:27 AM

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Do you have another way to donate. Or does kofi take another payment method other than PayPal

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:27 AM

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you might be able to put in a random address

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but the correct zipcode

torpid glacier Apr 27, 2025, 3:28 AM

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It’s alright if it’s too much a hassle for you. I appreciate you guys nonetheless

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:28 AM

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since you're not recieving a package; the address shouldn't matter -- only the zipcode might

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 3:28 AM

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i don't get people's addresses

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:28 AM

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oh

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so its fine; nobody sees your address

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its just for processing payments

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 3:29 AM

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Both PayPal and Stripe share information between you and the creator. PayPal shares the legal name and email address on your account. Stripe shares your legal name, email address, limited bank information, and the address tied to the card.

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:29 AM

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spare bane > Both PayPal and Stripe share information between you and the creator. PayPal s...

oof

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thats ass

bold gulch Apr 27, 2025, 3:33 AM

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Someone sent me money through PayPal

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 3:33 AM

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and a phone number

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giving patreon my id sounds better

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:34 AM

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the IRS needs to know who to audit

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 3:35 AM

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no

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stripe has my bank info

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they want me to share my address and phone with people giving money

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to absolve themselves from responsibility

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 3:46 AM

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btw do we know if any lutbuilders that have a sdr lut [texture2d ontop/sample] are used accross multiuple games

brittle marlin Apr 27, 2025, 4:13 AM

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anyone know how to reset expedition 33's shadercache?

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:14 AM

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brittle marlin anyone know how to reset expedition 33's shadercache?

1s

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%localappdata%\Sandfall\saved has a Sandfall_PCD3D_SM6.upipelinecache file

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but the game doesnt do full shader pre-compilation; so you might also need to clean up the \AppData\Local\D3DSCache folder

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but for now just delete the pipelinecache file

brittle marlin Apr 27, 2025, 4:15 AM

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im getting bad frametimes / tons of stutters in cutscenes even like after reloading the same scene over and over

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so idk whats going on

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:16 AM

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thonk no idea

brittle marlin Apr 27, 2025, 4:16 AM

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whats this file

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:17 AM

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shader cache

brittle marlin Apr 27, 2025, 4:17 AM

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oh so delete that too?

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:17 AM

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did you find it in the sandfall folder?

brittle marlin Apr 27, 2025, 4:17 AM

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yeah

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:17 AM

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delete it

brittle marlin Apr 27, 2025, 4:17 AM

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sandfal saved

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:17 AM

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yea delete it

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 4:28 AM

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wtf is this now

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:29 AM

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never had paypal ask me for any of that

spare bane Apr 27, 2025, 4:29 AM

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i was doing kofi+stripe, not paypal

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 4:32 AM

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ohh

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paypal only asked for my SSN

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in order to accept money

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 6:33 AM

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alright I may need to start contributing to this finally lol. Playing Man of Medan with my GF and the native HDR is locked to a 500 nit UI

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 7:09 AM

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alright, got one of the lutbuilders setup that got dumped, but this other one isn't looking very similar to basically any other sm5 lutbuilders I see

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📎 lutbuilder_0x9A035F2F.ps_5_0.hlsl

quartz ember Apr 27, 2025, 12:25 PM

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my reno HDR settings dont change anything in the game after restart, UI brightness impact the whole image only slider that does something (oblivion)

tardy bear Apr 27, 2025, 12:32 PM

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@spare baneWuwa

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Today I reinstalled the system

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Wuwa still has images that become brighter and darker

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I didn't do anything
I only did one thing, installing Reshade and using RenoDX

pliant sail Apr 27, 2025, 2:57 PM

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Tried the Unreal mod in Astroneer. The contrast slider doesn't work, switching resource upgrades is the same.

📎 lutbuilder_0x61F067B4.ps_5_0.cso

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 8:49 PM

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jovial trout

uea thats a weird one

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@pliant sail I built this for you with the astroneer fix; try it out and let me know if it works; if it does I'll add the shader to the repo

📎 renodx-ue-dev.addon64

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 9:17 PM

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nvm I forgot I played the game

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requires B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS upgrades; going to commit ina second

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elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 9:57 PM

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jovial trout

@jovial trout you're right lots of stuff is stripped out

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like the == 0 output device paths

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this reminds me of the cursed reternal lutbuilder; but that lutbuilder was never actually used

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probably just a leftover from ps5 optimizations

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 10:15 PM

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I tried with just the other lutbuilder and was still clamped unfortunately

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 10:15 PM

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did you try moving contrast up/down

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returnal dumped 2 lutbuilders; 1 normal 1 cursed; but the cursed one never ran

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 10:15 PM

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Uhhh actually no I only tried that before fixing it

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 10:15 PM

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I checked via the devkit

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 10:15 PM

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I should try again

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 10:16 PM

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if contrast up/down changes stuff

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that means its clamped by resource upgrades

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so start trying bgra8_typeless, unorm, rgb10a2, etc

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 10:16 PM

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I tried upgrading basically everything though 😦

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 10:16 PM

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rip

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 10:16 PM

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Only by output size however

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I’ll have to see if contrast works

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No contrast slider 😦

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Very sad

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 10:20 PM

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here's the cursed returnal lutbuilder

📎 lutbuilder_0xD5D3DF19.ps_5_0.hlsl

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bro

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its the same

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as your lutbuilder

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what game where you trying to fix

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and what version of UE is it

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 10:22 PM

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jovial trout

@spare bane remember that weird custom lutbuilder I found in returnal, but it wasnt actually used by the game

Jon found a game with the same lutbuilder structure; but the cursed custom lutbuilder is acutally used

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returnal is a bit different, it has some stuff stripped out; but it seems to be closer to jon's lutbuilder vs. a standard lutbuilder

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@jovial trout what version of UE is the game?

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right click the game.exe, properties, details

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 11:16 PM

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Can’t check rn, might be on pcgamingwiki though

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4 something

elfin lance Apr 27, 2025, 11:17 PM

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whats the game again

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Man of Medan ?

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4.26.2.0[

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not old

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I wonder if that lutbuilder is the non filmic lutbuilder

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cant be

jovial trout Apr 27, 2025, 11:20 PM

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Yeah

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:02 AM

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@elfin lance so I'm not actually sure that funky lutbuilder is being used. Loaded it up with devkit and I don't see it get loaded, but I do see the other one. I really think I set this shader up right, what else could the issue be? I'm not seeing any resources that would be clamping, everything is getting upgraded.

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:02 AM

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if the contrast slider does nothing

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that means the lutbuilder is not replaced

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or does not exist

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could it be using a cs lutbuilder?

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lutbuilders are 32x32x32 textures

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:03 AM

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Hm, could you check if I set this up right?

📎 lutbuilder_0x684ABF0F.ps_5_0.hlsl

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:03 AM

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cs lutbuilders dont get dumped by the UE mod

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:03 AM

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oh, maybe?

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:03 AM

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jovial trout Hm, could you check if I set this up right?

looks right

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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guess I'll dump all shaders and look for cs

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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ohh

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you didnt rename it

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to 5_1

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one second

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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DEAD

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is that all it is?

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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5_x

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I forgot to do that too

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time to fix my pull request

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rename 5_0 to 5_x

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:04 AM

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omg I see that all the others are like that

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that never would have stuck out me

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thanks

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:05 AM

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I forgot to do it today kik

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:05 AM

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alright let's see if this works now

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:07 AM

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just fixed my pull request

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https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/pull/202

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:07 AM

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slider now works but it's still clamped

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:07 AM

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ok

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if the slider works

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but its clamped

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time to upgrade

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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I have upgrades though DEAD

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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try output ratio?

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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everything is getting upgraded in the devkit

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I'll try it just in case I'm blind

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:08 AM

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instead of output size

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but if its still clamped even with all the upgrades

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that means the game might have custom shaders that come after

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the shader that samples the lutbuilder

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:09 AM

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still clamped with every resource set to output ratio, guess it's another shader

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oh well I guess

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:10 AM

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if you find the shader and fix it

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you can add a folder to the games folder

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and then commit the changes

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:10 AM

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hm, alright

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lemme see if I can find it, and hopefully it'll be the same shader for all their games...

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:10 AM

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the draw order in a normal UE game is

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lutbuilder
sample shader

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if its custom it will be

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lutbuilder
sample shader
custom shader

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:14 AM

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I'm seeing a CS and a PS after that sample shader

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then it's UI

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hoping it'll just be the PS

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:14 AM

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well time to see what it does

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cs is nothing special

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its the same as ps

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you just have to fix the input/output

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:15 AM

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alright

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:15 AM

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but yea the game has custom shaders running

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just do what I did in berserker

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to fix it

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linearize with inverseintermediatepass

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and upgradetonemap at the end

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:16 AM

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alright

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never seen 3dmigoto leave comments saying manual fixes are needed...

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this is for the CS

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the PS isn't a problem

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CS almost certainly is

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basically it's a bunch of these

store_uav_typed u0.xyzw, r2.zwww, r0.xyzw```

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:28 AM

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jovial trout never seen 3dmigoto leave comments saying manual fixes are needed...

all cs need manual fixs

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input, output, and main function

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after you fix the input/output

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you mod it just like any other ps

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here is an example of a fixed cs: https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/main/src/games/AI.Limit/uberpost_0x6983BFA7.cs_5_0.hlsl

added RWTexture2DArray<float4> u0 : register(u0); ontop -- the type of texture it is will be listed in the comments
added [numthreads(8, 8, 1)] -- the numbers instead of numthreads will be in comments
made this this main function:
void main(uint3 vThreadID: SV_DispatchThreadID) {
made this the output: u0[vThreadID] = r2;

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after you fix all that up; u0[vThreadID] = is literally the same as o0 =

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problem is idk how this swizzles u0.xyzw, r2.zwww, r0.xyzw

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float4 color;
color.rgb = r0.rgb;
color.w = r2.w;
u0 = color;

maybe its (r0.rgb * r2.w) for the rgb output, and 1.f for the .w output idk

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:38 AM

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mine also has a vThreadIDInGroup and a vThreadGroupID

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:38 AM

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jovial trout mine also has a ```vThreadIDInGroup``` and a ```vThreadGroupID```

oh

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there is an example of how to handle that

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search for that in the renodx repo

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:39 AM

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alright

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:39 AM

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there will be an example cs

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its the same just

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different main function

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if you cant figure it out, ask shortfuse or voosh

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 5:50 AM

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greatly appreciate the help

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 5:51 AM

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np

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but yea assuming only the input/output is the issue; once you fix that up; you can treat it like any other PS

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if we ever get dxbc2dxil -> decomp.exe working; fixing CS will be a thing of the past

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 6:47 AM

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pretty sure the obvious stuff is fixed, though I'm just getting a black screen loading it. Voosh took a look and thinks there's other decomp errors. I'm just gonna post the CS here with the fixes I've got, not really sure what to do tbh. Voosh also thinks it's probably fsr1/rcas (or something similar).

📎 0x875081C9.cs_5_0.hlsl 📎 0x875081C9.cs_5_0.cso

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 6:54 AM

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you dont do this

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u0[r2.zw] = r0.xyzw;

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you do

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u0[vThreadID] = r2;

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@bold gulch help jon

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so lik ethis

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 6:56 AM

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did you mean to comment this out:

  //r0.xyz = saturate(r0.xyz * r0.www);

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 6:57 AM

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~~```cpp
//store_uav_typed u0.xyzw, r2.zwww, r0.xyzw
float3 color1;
color1.rgb = r0.rgb;
color1.w = r2.w;
u0[vThreadID] = color1;

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 6:57 AM

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that was a voosh suggestion, thought the r0.www multiplication would be problematic, and then also the saturate would be clamping, so at the point just comment out

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 6:57 AM

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just remove the saturate...

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 6:57 AM

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~~you can probably write it out as u0[vThreadID] = float4(r0.rgb, r2.w);~~

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 6:57 AM

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  u0[r1.xw] = r0.xyzw;

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that looks right

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 6:58 AM

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you can do that?

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thought it had to be threadid?

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 6:58 AM

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first is the uav, second is the coordinates, third is whats being saved there

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like

  // store_uav_typed u0.xyzw, vThreadID.xyzz, r0.xyzw
  ACESLut[vThreadID] = r0;

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 6:58 AM

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I'll ditch the saturate and keep the .w multiplications

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 6:58 AM

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ya

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 6:59 AM

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though I wouldn't expect that to fix it black screening

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 6:59 AM

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bold gulch like ```cpp // store_uav_typed u0.xyzw, vThreadID.xyzz, r0.xyzw ACESLut[vThr...

right I know that

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ok I see

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this looks cursed though

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  r2.x = (uint)vThreadIDInGroup.x >> 3;
  bitmask.w = ((~(-1 << 1)) << 0) & 0xffffffff;  r2.w = (((uint)vThreadIDInGroup.x << 0) & bitmask.w) | ((uint)r2.x & ~bitmask.w);
  if (3 == 0) r2.z = 0; else if (3+1 < 32) {   r2.z = (uint)vThreadIDInGroup.x << (32-(3 + 1)); r2.z = (uint)r2.z >> (32-3);  } else r2.z = (uint)vThreadIDInGroup.x >> 1;

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reminds me of 3dm decompilation memes

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where you have to re-write it using asuint()

pine void Apr 28, 2025, 7:00 AM

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elfin lance this looks cursed though

Everything is cursed. It's FidelityFX cursed code

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:01 AM

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well that part atleast looks like 3dm memes

pine void Apr 28, 2025, 7:02 AM

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This level of gibberish.

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:02 AM

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perhaps as expected, still black screen

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:02 AM

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can you turn off

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cas

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:03 AM

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uhhhhh idk

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:03 AM

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and see if it despawns the shader

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 7:03 AM

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oh its a sharpening shader?

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:03 AM

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bold gulch oh its a sharpening shader?

apparently

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:03 AM

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no

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:03 AM

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bold gulch oh its a sharpening shader?

we don't know, voosh just thinks it looks familiar

pine void Apr 28, 2025, 7:04 AM

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bold gulch oh its a sharpening shader?

I'm only guessing from the look of it. Take it with a bag of salt

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 7:04 AM

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maybe cast all the coordinates as uint2

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  //store_uav_typed u0.xyzw, r2.zwww, r0.xyzw
  u0[uint2(r2.zw)] = r0.xyzw;

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:04 AM

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alright

bold gulch Apr 28, 2025, 7:06 AM

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  //r0.xyz = saturate(r1.xyz * r1.www);
  r0.xyz = r1.xyz;

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make sure to keep back all the * r1.w

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:06 AM

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no luck with uint2

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:06 AM

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btw musa the issue here is

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UE game, 2 shaders after the sample shader that clamp the game

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:06 AM

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bold gulch ```cpp //r0.xyz = saturate(r1.xyz * r1.www); r0.xyz = r1.xyz; ```

yep got that one

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:06 AM

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this might not even be the shader thats clamping the game

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kekwtf

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but if it has a hard saturate

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just remove that and move onto the second PS shader

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:07 AM

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well, the ps is very simple, I'm certain it's not clamping

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:07 AM

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does it have a max(0

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or saturate

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:07 AM

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  linear noperspective float4 v0 : TEXCOORD0,
  out float4 o0 : SV_Target0)
{
  float4 r0,r1,r2;
  uint4 bitmask, uiDest;
  float4 fDest;

  r0.xyz = t0.Sample(s0_s, v0.xy).xyz;
  r1.xyz = log2(r0.xyz);
  r1.xyz = float3(0.416666657,0.416666657,0.416666657) * r1.xyz;
  r1.xyz = exp2(r1.xyz);
  r1.xyz = r1.xyz * float3(1.05499995,1.05499995,1.05499995) + float3(-0.0549999997,-0.0549999997,-0.0549999997);
  r2.xyz = float3(12.9200001,12.9200001,12.9200001) * r0.xyz;
  r0.xyz = cmp(r0.xyz >= float3(0.00313066994,0.00313066994,0.00313066994));
  o0.xyz = r0.xyz ? r1.xyz : r2.xyz;
  o0.w = 1;
  return;
}```

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:07 AM

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ohh its literally

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sample and srgb encode

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:08 AM

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yeah

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:08 AM

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might aswell replace it with encodesafe

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  r0.xyz = t0.Sample(s0_s, v0.xy).xyz;
 // r1.xyz = log2(r0.xyz);
 // r1.xyz = float3(0.416666657,0.416666657,0.416666657) * r1.xyz;
 // r1.xyz = exp2(r1.xyz);
 // r1.xyz = r1.xyz * float3(1.05499995,1.05499995,1.05499995) + float3(-0.0549999997,-0.0549999997,-0.0549999997);
 // r2.xyz = float3(12.9200001,12.9200001,12.9200001) * r0.xyz;
 // r0.xyz = cmp(r0.xyz >= float3(0.00313066994,0.00313066994,0.00313066994));
 // o0.xyz = r0.xyz ? r1.xyz : r2.xyz;
o0.rgb = renodx::color::srgb::EncodeSafe(r0.rgb);
  o0.w = 1;
  return;
}

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but yea if the only thing that griefs the game are those 2 shaders

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commit the lutbuilder to the /lutbuilders/sm5/ folder with the name being 5_x.hlsl
make a new folder here named after the game, and throw the custom fixed shaders in it
https://github.com/marat569/renodx/tree/main/src/games/unrealengine/games
if the game needs upgrades; find the minimum upgrades and add default settings to addon.cpp

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@jovial trout what if you just return the sample in the compute shader

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find where it samples the game, and early return

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skipping all the code

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nvm the cs has no sample

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:13 AM

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I thought that too and then felt dumb when I wasn't sure where 😅

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:13 AM

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it has .load

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:14 AM

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yeah t0.load makes sense

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:14 AM

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try returning line 39

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first load

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problem is the thing has 4 outputs

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so idk how you'd do that LMAO

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 7:17 AM

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lol well, thank you guys for the help, I need to get to sleep

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 7:38 AM

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it seems "KH3 + remind DLC" is already supported

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by the UE plugin

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just needs upgrades; I think just bgr8 unorm/typeless

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atleast the first new game part

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I'm a potato there is a kh3 folder in the games folder

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uninstalling

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wonder why kh3 has its own /games/ folder when its just lutbuilders -- I thought the /games/ folder was for non-lutbuilder game spcific shaders; like custom grain or color grading

pliant sail Apr 28, 2025, 10:57 AM

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elfin lance <@261831673996509185> I built this for you with the astroneer fix; try it out an...

Nice! There are no problems with the image. Except for the flickering of the loading text. And the text in the mission log is also not displayed. It appears if you start turning the camera while the mission log is open.

Astro-Win64-Shipping_2025-04-28_18-44-55_302_Mission_Log.png

Astro-Win64-Shipping_2025-04-28_18-46-19_061_Mission_Log_With_right_click_to_look.png

spare bane Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 PM

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elfin lance wonder why kh3 has its own /games/ folder when its just lutbuilders -- I thought...

it's a 100% custom kh3 only lutbuilder

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started adding ungraded_ap1 to SM5

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also SM5 has dual path. some games use the mobile tonemap

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@elfin lance see latest commit

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as long as they're tagged, i can adjust stuff later

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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pogfish

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I'll update my commit later today to use the new color

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~~and test the doge game that was griefed before~~

ohh this only for sm5 nvm

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@spare bane ima be home after 4pm or so; if SM6 needs fixing I can start fixing htem up too

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adding ungraded to shaders that dont have it; and moving untonemapped in the shaders that have it in place of ungraded

spare bane Apr 28, 2025, 3:23 PM

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elfin lance ~~and test the doge game that was griefed before~~ ohh this only for sm5 nvm

It's the same for SM6.

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 3:23 PM

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spare bane It's the same for SM6.

yea I just crawled out of bed, brain not at 100%

spare bane Apr 28, 2025, 3:23 PM

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SM6 doesn't have the mobile tonemap path anymore

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 3:24 PM

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do you want me to help fix the shaders up?

spare bane Apr 28, 2025, 3:24 PM

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If you can, or want. Didn't have time this morning

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 3:24 PM

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yea I do; I'll be home after 4 est

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and get to it

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 8:48 PM

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I just got home, ima get some snacks and do all the SM6 lutbuilders

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 9:49 PM

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@jovial trout where you able to figure out your game

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with the cs shader

jovial trout Apr 28, 2025, 9:50 PM

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haven't gone back to it yet

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gonna do a cvar dump and see if I can find what it actually is

elfin lance Apr 28, 2025, 9:51 PM

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kekwsit

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@viscid mirage with the latest commit that has a new color in the lutbuilders; the slitterhead memes are fixed -- also clair obscur too

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 1:55 AM

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did you tweak any settings in the Reno Reshade? I just got in on RoN but the image looks insanely bright and weird

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 1:57 AM

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RoN?

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ohh Ready or Not

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for ready or not you need a scene change for settings to apply

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so exit to the main menu and load the mission again

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:00 AM

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elfin lance for ready or not you need a scene change for settings to apply

I'm actually able to change the settings in the current scene, it depends on the area of the game I'm in, for example when I spawn in the main lobby it doesn't work and UI brightness actually changes the game's brightness, but when I get close to the main desk where I can select the objects then I can change the rest of the settings, it's pretty weird I have no idea how that works

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:00 AM

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daring breach I'm actually able to change the settings in the current scene, it depends on the...

the ui brightness changing the entire picture is part of requiring a scene change

brave sand Apr 29, 2025, 2:00 AM

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@spare bane there was an Infinity Nikki update today and renodx is now causing the game to crash on the main menu

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000000

0x00007ffc919eafc1 nvwgf2umx.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffc919ea4ff nvwgf2umx.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffc91ffb7bc nvwgf2umx.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffc91fff209 nvwgf2umx.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffbde01eb22 D3D12Core.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffbc111d740 ReShade64.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffbadf97898 renodx-unrealengine.addon64!renodx::mods::swapchain::DrawSwapChainProxy() [D:\renodx\src\mods\swapchain.hpp:883]
0x00007ffbc11515b0 ReShade64.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffbc1150146 ReShade64.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001421ca32f X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001421ca17c X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001421cb027 X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001422e349a X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001422dea2f X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001407a15e3 X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001407ae03e X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001416999fb X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001409736d7 X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001409707c1 X6Game-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffca54ce8d7 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []

do you have any idea of what could be the reason?
Here's the stack trace and a ReShade.log

📎 ReShade.log

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:00 AM

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like if you set the UI brightness to 100 nits; the entire image will go dimm

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but when you re-load the scene; everything will look right; except the UI will be 100 nits

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:01 AM

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brave sand <@115289688037785602> there was an Infinity Nikki update today and renodx is now...

tons of 22:54:36:180 [24708] | WARN | IDirect3D9::CreateDevice failed with error code D3DERR_INVALIDCALL.

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:02 AM

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elfin lance but when you re-load the scene; everything will look right; except the UI will b...

oh I understand, so how can I tweak the settings if I can't see their effects?

spare bane Apr 29, 2025, 2:02 AM

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brave sand <@115289688037785602> there was an Infinity Nikki update today and renodx is now...

Can you run it with a debug build? It'll show where the error is

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Oh wait it says it

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:02 AM

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daring breach oh I understand, so how can I tweak the settings if I can't see their effects?

I mean you dont really have to modify too much

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just set peak to your display peak, game nits/ui nits to w/e you want

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and then maybe increase contrast/saturation a bit if you're on an oled

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sadly no real time sliders is a downside of UE 5.3+

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:03 AM

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elfin lance and then maybe increase contrast/saturation a bit if you're on an oled

yes I am, LG C3! I think the peak is 830(?)

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:03 AM

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sounds right

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:04 AM

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elfin lance sadly no real time sliders is a downside of UE 5.3+

UE 5 game without native HDR is crazy

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:04 AM

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daring breach UE 5 game without native HDR is crazy

d.w even if it had native hdr

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we'd be replacing it

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aces 1000 is Poopega

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:04 AM

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right, same with RE4R, I got the Reno HDR on that too and it looks completely different now

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so much better, too bad I already finished it before finding out about it, at least I got the dlc lol

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:06 AM

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didnt know nikki is part of the prestigous DXGI_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM on UE5 club

brave sand Apr 29, 2025, 2:07 AM

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elfin lance didnt know nikki is part of the prestigous `DXGI_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM` on UE5 c...

it's not

spare bane Apr 29, 2025, 2:07 AM

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brave sand <@115289688037785602> there was an Infinity Nikki update today and renodx is now...

Yeah. It's a d3d9 device. Weird. Can you try disabling overlays?

brave sand Apr 29, 2025, 2:07 AM

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I don't have any overlays enabled

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:08 AM

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the discord overlay sometimes turns itself back on

spare bane Apr 29, 2025, 2:08 AM

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😕 it's something that is hooking via DX9 but I don't have the ability to check if it's DX9 from Reshade. Let me see if I can output the class name

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:10 AM

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elfin lance just set peak to your display peak, game nits/ui nits to w/e you want

just last question, the game nits, do you suggest to keep them above or below the base value of 203?

brave sand Apr 29, 2025, 2:10 AM

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elfin lance didnt know nikki is part of the prestigous `DXGI_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM` on UE5 c...

the DXGI_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM swapchain is 100x100 and the device it belongs to gets destroyed later on, i have no idea what it is, i think it's a web browser the game uses to embed web pages on the game?

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:10 AM

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daring breach just last question, the game nits, do you suggest to keep them above or below th...

I dont suggest going above 203; if anything drop it down -- 170 nit paperwhite/game nits is x5 range for peak 830

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:11 AM

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elfin lance I dont suggest going above 203; if anything drop it down -- 170 nit paperwhite/g...

like to 150? Or is that too much

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oh alright, so 170 it is, thanks for the help

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:12 AM

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my rule of thumb is:

never go above 203
minimum x4 range between game and peak, x5 is better
-- x4 range is 203, x5 range is 170 -- honestly this is up to you

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:12 AM

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elfin lance my rule of thumb is: 1) never go above 203 2) minimum x4 range between game and...

And in actual looks of the image, what difference does x5 make compared to x4?

spare bane Apr 29, 2025, 2:13 AM

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it's a perceptual thing. more range, more feel, but too dark and you're going to frustrate your eyes

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@brave sand

we basically need add a log output at https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/2902169b27d8065359b897900150aacfadd4134a/src/utils/platform.hpp#L156

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reshade::log::message(reshade::log::level::debug, std::string(class_name).c_str());

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:20 AM

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And if I open the game without HDR activated in windows, does it change the standard SDR image in some ways or is it as if I didn't have the reno addon at all?

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:20 AM

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daring breach And if I open the game without HDR activated in windows, does it change the stan...

pretty sure

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well the shaders still get replaced; so you might be able to get "enhanced SDR" if you set peak/game/ui to 80

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but you have to turn windows hdr on yourself

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:21 AM

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elfin lance well the shaders still get replaced; so you might be able to get "enhanced SDR" ...

oh makes sense, so it does still replace them, good to know

brave sand Apr 29, 2025, 2:28 AM

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spare bane `reshade::log::message(reshade::log::level::debug, std::string(class_name).c_str...

done

📎 ReShade.log

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i don't know what "bridge" is

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:31 AM

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whatever the cursed dx9 device is

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its called bridge

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b8g8r8x8_unorm => r10g10b10a2_unorm

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Cursed

brave sand Apr 29, 2025, 2:43 AM

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the d3d9 device is weird but i don't think it's what is crashing the game?

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:45 AM

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Is it normal that the areas that are far are this bright? It looks like it's way too much, if I get closer they become normal but when further I get the brighter they become

Ready_Or_Not_Screenshot_2025.04.29_-_04.40.22.47.jxr

Ready_Or_Not_Screenshot_2025.04.29_-_04.40.42.58.jxr

Ready_Or_Not_Screenshot_2025.04.29_-_04.42.38.74.jxr

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:46 AM

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daring breach Is it normal that the areas that are far are this bright? It looks like it's way...

is windows in sdr mode?

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:46 AM

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wait how can I send the screenshots properly

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:46 AM

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elfin lance is windows in sdr mode?

nope, HDR mode I always enable it before I open and hdr game

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:47 AM

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did you set peak brightness to 80?

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those pictures have a peak brightness of 80 nits

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you want 830

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:47 AM

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these are my settings

Ready_Or_Not_Screenshot_2025.04.29_-_04.46.52.63.jxr

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:47 AM

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ok reload the scene now

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exit to main menu

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and start up the mission again

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:48 AM

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alright

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:48 AM

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whenever you move a slider; you need to reload the scene in ready or not

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I added Ready or Not the the UE mod; and the dude who sent me the shaders tested every map and sent me all the shaders the game shat out

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:49 AM

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I did get this, but these settings I sent were already on when I was in the menu, I even closed and opened the game again

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Ready_Or_Not_Screenshot_2025.04.29_-_04.48.24.11.jxr

Ready_Or_Not_Screenshot_2025.04.29_-_04.49.26.87.jxr

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:50 AM

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go to advanced

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:50 AM

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still 80?

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:50 AM

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and upgrade r10g10b10a2_unorm to output size

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:50 AM

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daring breach still 80?

yes; unless the screenshots are griefed idk

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is your game in borderless windowed?

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:51 AM

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elfin lance and upgrade r10g10b10a2_unorm to output size

it's already in output size, should I put something else

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oh okay

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:51 AM

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elfin lance is your game in borderless windowed?

yes

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:51 AM

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yea I have no idea; ready or not should work

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:52 AM

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that's my luck lol, I guess my game doesn't want me to enjoy the hdr

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:52 AM

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here try this version of unreal engine

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📎 renodx-unrealengine.addon64

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and use this dxgi.dll

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put this and the addon in the game folder

📎 dxgi.dll

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you're not using SK or anything right

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:53 AM

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nope it's just the base game

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I'll try these files now

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:56 AM

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btw your game resolution is the same as your window resolution right

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like if you're in borderless windowed on a 4k display; the resolution is set to 4k right

daring breach Apr 29, 2025, 2:58 AM

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yes it's 4k

elfin lance Apr 29, 2025, 2:58 AM

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also do me a favor

#✅RenoDX: Unreal Engine