Unreal Engine native HDR shader fix for games without official HDR support | HDR Den | Page 3

fossil narwhal Sep 7, 2024, 10:35 PM

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but if you're talking about ersh's shaders being modified UE shaders

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well thats the same chicken and egg situtation as a renodx mod sharing hlsl files and shit

primal gulch Sep 7, 2024, 10:35 PM

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he's not good with english but I told him if he wanted to come nyehehehe

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the setup was reshade with addon + lilium shaders next to .exe shipping
SUWFS next to exe with your ini.
Ui fix next to exe.
enablehdr pak file where you said to put it.

In game works fine, proper hdr like your screen, ui was 130 nits or so, the first fmv after starting the game is also 130 nits i'm not sure if it's just this one that is capped, he hasn't really started playing

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could be just that first cutscene at start that is capped

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and all the others are hdr ?

deft sandal Sep 7, 2024, 10:39 PM

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oh, the pre-rendered stuff will always be capped, but there isn't a lot of it

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so whatever

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most cutscenes are in-game

primal gulch Sep 7, 2024, 10:39 PM

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ah I see

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he was scared about that yeah

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i'll pass the message

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sorry for the confusion

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amma bit tired

deft sandal Sep 8, 2024, 2:08 AM

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OH

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i just remembered something that is kind of important about visions of mana

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it sets up (broken) HDR metadata

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#🔆hdr-gaming message

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you can use this to block the metadata if you aren't using SpecialK

fossil narwhal Sep 8, 2024, 2:18 AM

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really?

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hdr ini tweaks sets up metadata

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today I learned something new

deft sandal Sep 8, 2024, 2:40 AM

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Well i don't know if that's a general thing

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I just know that's what visions of mana does.

fossil narwhal Sep 8, 2024, 2:55 AM

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weird stuff

primal gulch Sep 8, 2024, 9:25 AM

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Thx i sent him

primal gulch Sep 8, 2024, 12:27 PM

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seems the game has become unstable with the mod i'm not sure why thinkfused

fleet flower Sep 9, 2024, 10:34 AM

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Hi, I can force HDR in Tales of Arise with this method, but the skit looks washed out.
Is this easy fixable?

regal jetty Sep 9, 2024, 10:36 AM

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Tales of Arise is one of those games where I lacked options and normal SDR brightness was too dim looking so I used dynamic mode 😐

It's was colorful and nice, but my eyes would bleed during special attacks.

This was before RTX hdr and I knew of special k lol

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The suffering of wanting to see your displays potential

fleet flower Sep 9, 2024, 10:40 AM

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Yeah this game can get very bright during battle with all particles fx 😅

brazen fern Sep 9, 2024, 12:18 PM

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deft sandal you can use this to block the metadata if you aren't using SpecialK

Reshade gives me error 126, when I try to load the addon. Am I missing something?

candid rain Sep 9, 2024, 4:05 PM

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Unreal Engine native HDR shader fix for games without official HDR support

light mist Sep 9, 2024, 4:10 PM

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Nice title

fathom frigate Sep 9, 2024, 4:32 PM

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Far too long though haha

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"UE games unofficial native HDR"?

candid rain Sep 9, 2024, 5:00 PM

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light mist Nice title

I don't like short titles

fathom frigate Sep 9, 2024, 5:29 PM

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candid rain I don't like short titles

I can see that, but improves findability

fossil narwhal Sep 9, 2024, 8:46 PM

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fleet flower Hi, I can force HDR in Tales of Arise with this method, but the skit looks washe...

I tried ini tweaks, they dont work in that game

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they do custom stuff

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it will just look washed out

deft sandal Sep 10, 2024, 2:37 AM

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brazen fern Reshade gives me error 126, when I try to load the addon. Am I missing something...

I'm sorry, try this version: #🔆hdr-gaming message

brazen fern Sep 10, 2024, 7:06 AM

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working fine now, thanks

lost current Sep 10, 2024, 4:05 PM

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This is kinda tangentially related, but does anyone know if it's possible to enable decent AO in UE4 VR games?

remote carbon Sep 12, 2024, 12:12 PM

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Wuthering Waves is a UE4 game, RT support is coming, but no HDR support, and ini edits are not working 😩

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I don't think that I want to try UUU it's an online only game after all

light mist Sep 12, 2024, 1:37 PM

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Yeah...

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The edits work but they don't do much

light mist Sep 13, 2024, 4:25 PM

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Alright yall there is a new game out there

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Which might work with the cvars

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Lolipop chainsaw repop

regal jetty Sep 13, 2024, 4:28 PM

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I might get it, I miss slop games

fossil narwhal Sep 13, 2024, 8:51 PM

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UE4SS HDR Package #5:

Install Instructions: #1228738531216719956 message

Changelog:

Updated reshade to 6.3+addon

📎 ue_hdr_package_5.zip

light mist Sep 13, 2024, 8:53 PM

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regal jetty I might get it, I miss slop games

Quick warning. It's pretty broken it seems 😔

remote carbon Sep 13, 2024, 9:13 PM

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Caravan Sandwitch is a new UE5 indie game

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HDR works fine with the ini edits

remote carbon Sep 13, 2024, 9:28 PM

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candid rain Sep 13, 2024, 9:32 PM

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remote carbon

5.3?

remote carbon Sep 13, 2024, 9:32 PM

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not sure

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the exe says UE5-CL-0

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I switched to DX11 and scRGB, but HDR10 and DX12 seems to work fine

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UUU does not work though

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I cant switch between r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice 3 and 5

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primal gulch Sep 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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deft sandal I'm sorry, try this version: https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/11...

i'm guessing this is not necessary with reshade 6.3 ?

deft sandal Sep 13, 2024, 10:47 PM

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yes

deft sandal Sep 13, 2024, 10:47 PM

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remote carbon I cant switch between r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice 3 and 5

try the pattern?

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#1228738531216719956 message

fossil narwhal Sep 13, 2024, 11:25 PM

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remote carbon I cant switch between r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice 3 and 5

in like every UE game you can swap all cvars in real time except enablehdr

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if you want to check the current cvar value

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enter it in the console with no value

remote carbon Sep 13, 2024, 11:48 PM

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fossil narwhal in like every UE game you can swap all cvars in real time except enablehdr

no I mean UUU crashes the game haha

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it can't even hook

remote carbon Sep 13, 2024, 11:50 PM

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deft sandal try the pattern?

oh interesting, I will test this

fossil narwhal Sep 13, 2024, 11:51 PM

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remote carbon no I mean UUU crashes the game haha

try ue4ss? but I doubt it will work

remote carbon Sep 13, 2024, 11:59 PM

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fossil narwhal try ue4ss? but I doubt it will work

I could, but I will just use DX11

fossil narwhal Sep 13, 2024, 11:59 PM

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ah, if its dx11 just ini tweaks should work

remote carbon Sep 14, 2024, 12:05 AM

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yea, there is no DX12 specific tech that the game uses either, so DX11 is fine

fossil narwhal Sep 14, 2024, 12:18 AM

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remote carbon yea, there is no DX12 specific tech that the game uses either, so DX11 is fine

idk what it is exactly

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but you get tons of perf in games

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especially if they default to dx12

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like LAD: Ishin would drop fps in town regardless of hardware on dx11

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but dx12 ran liek butter (after the first patch that fixed shader compilation)

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if you're happy with your perf, it probably doesnt matter

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but UE DX12 does "something"

deft sandal Sep 14, 2024, 12:39 AM

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Without a pipeline cache, the D3D12 backend feels rough, but assuming they shipped with one, you get a pretty significant boost in performance compared to d3d11.

pine coral Sep 14, 2024, 1:41 AM

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light mist Quick warning. It's pretty broken it seems 😔

fuck

warped oak Sep 14, 2024, 2:58 PM

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Can you go higher than 15 for the r.HDR.Display.MidLuminance=15 line?

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does anyone know which paperwhite 15 targets?

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or does it depend on the game?

fathom frigate Sep 14, 2024, 5:07 PM

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warped oak Can you go higher than 15 for the r.HDR.Display.MidLuminance=15 line?

can't find public documentation on it

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15 is the default value though: https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/API/Runtime/RenderCore/FACESTonemapParams/__ctor?application_version=5.4

Epic Games Developer

FACESTonemapParams::FACESTonemapParams | Unreal Engine 5.4 Document...

Default Values such as MinLuminanceLog10=-4, MidLuminance=15, MaxLuminance=1000, SceneColorMultiplier=1.5.

pine coral Sep 16, 2024, 7:18 AM

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Encountered a game, Showgunners, where it just won't accept the HDR .ini params in DX12 or 11. Pretty rare to see that

remote carbon Sep 16, 2024, 8:53 AM

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Its not that rare unfortunately

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but the Universal Unreal Engine Unlocker (UUU) almost always works

pine coral Sep 16, 2024, 1:22 PM

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remote carbon but the Universal Unreal Engine Unlocker (UUU) almost always works

So in such cases the way is to use UUU to unlock and then manually typing in the params each time?

warped oak Sep 16, 2024, 1:39 PM

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what does UUU do? Lets you tweak values past max settings?

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or lets you force HDR if it won't work normally?

remote carbon Sep 16, 2024, 2:07 PM

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pine coral So in such cases the way is to use UUU to unlock and then manually typing in the...

yes, but it saves the enetered commands in the command history

pine coral Sep 16, 2024, 3:40 PM

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Well UUU seems annoying to use in this game, I open the console start typing and any keys that correspond with any other game input start working and not letting me type the command properly then pressing enter usually acts like a menu input

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I'll just stick to SK HDR I guess

warped oak Sep 16, 2024, 3:41 PM

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There are some unreal games that just do not work with the HDR commands

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Is it UE4?

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idk which game you're working on rn

pine coral Sep 16, 2024, 3:58 PM

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Showgunners, UE4 yes

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 4:09 PM

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pine coral Well UUU seems annoying to use in this game, I open the console start typing and...

have you tried the ue4ss mod/script

warped oak Sep 16, 2024, 4:18 PM

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here's marat's ue4ss mod

📎 ue_hdr_package_4.zip

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the latest that I have

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although this actually did not work for satisfactory (UE5)

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i had to use manual engine ini tweaks

pine coral Sep 16, 2024, 4:31 PM

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eternal wren have you tried the ue4ss mod/script

Yeah of course

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I tried the script first, then manually, then UUU

warped oak Sep 16, 2024, 5:17 PM

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Then the game probably just won't work with HDR

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it is what it is

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Gotta use pumbo's. If the UI brightness is terrible then i'd suggest limiting peak to around 400 nits

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and paperwhite at like 100

remote carbon Sep 16, 2024, 5:34 PM

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pine coral Well UUU seems annoying to use in this game, I open the console start typing and...

Use it in the menu, you can also use ctrl+c/v

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but if the cvars are read only then yea, not much you can do, other than modding the exe maybe

candid rain Sep 16, 2024, 8:00 PM

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Anybody tried Enotria with the config edit?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2102450/discussions/0/4342113301337504891/

the game needs HDR... :: Enotria: The Last Song General Discussions

yes?no?

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:06 PM

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pepePain

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:07 PM

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candid rain Anybody tried Enotria with the config edit? https://steamcommunity.com/app/21024...

i think i did try it in the demo, it worked but looked a bit eh. missing lut maybe

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i didn't really like the demo so idc

vivid wave Sep 16, 2024, 8:22 PM

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Game looks meh but really nice in PS5 HDR vids

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looks like UE5 game and similar assets to Banishers

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:38 PM

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candid rain Anybody tried Enotria with the config edit? https://steamcommunity.com/app/21024...

they worked in the demo, but I'm also not sure about missing LUTs

candid rain Sep 16, 2024, 8:39 PM

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vivid wave Game looks meh but really nice in PS5 HDR vids

How can there be HDR videos for ps5?

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:40 PM

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a bunch of games have HDR modes, but only for consoles

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not for PC

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not sure if that is the case here

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:47 PM

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vivid wave Game looks meh but really nice in PS5 HDR vids

you probably mean videos like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fhLHkGpXdo

YouTube

Gora Gameplay

(PS5) Fighting Against Enemies | This Game Looks AMAZING - Gameplay...

Exploring a fantasy world, fighting against enemies, and solving puzzles to uncover ancient secrets and progress through the story

▶ Play video

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:47 PM

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surely not

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:47 PM

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that seems to me like sdr inside an hdr container

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:47 PM

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it is

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i'm not sure what game actually only has hdr on consoles aside from gta5

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:50 PM

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Atlas Fallen, The Surge 2, the Hoyo gachas, I think Immortals of Aveum?

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and probably others

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:51 PM

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atlas doesnt im pretty sure

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immortal has hdr on pc

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:52 PM

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oh yea, immortal added it in an update on pc

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but it was there on console day 1

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:52 PM

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its unreal, why would they delay it lol

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if the surge does have hdr on consoles then i guess atlas fallen should also

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:53 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOhMuOvAW1s

YouTube

Playscope

Atlas Fallen • 4K HDR 60FPS Performance Mode Gameplay • PS5

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eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:54 PM

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atlas is also terribly broken on pc

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:54 PM

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yep

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:54 PM

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60+fps feels worse than 60

dry hollow Sep 16, 2024, 8:55 PM

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ya I bought the game, noticed that and the lack of hdr (despite pcgw saying that it supports it..) and instantly refunded lol

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 8:56 PM

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i'd consider rendox but i'm not gonna care about a game that is broken like that in 2024

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!!

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nice infos

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should be helpful

vivid wave Sep 16, 2024, 9:09 PM

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candid rain How can there be HDR videos for ps5?

Forcing PS5 UI to always be in HDR type deal I think

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Fake HDR

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 9:14 PM

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remote carbon but the Universal Unreal Engine Unlocker (UUU) almost always works

all cvars work via UUU except r.AllowHDR=1

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r.AllowHDR=1 has to be loaded early

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ima get entronia

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so if ini tweaks dont work

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I might try fixing it

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shortfuse gave me an example fix with SMT5

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ohh wow enotria is ue 5.4

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 9:30 PM

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oh nice

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is it better than the demo

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 9:30 PM

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idk I dont play demos

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ue 5.4 is 99% SM6 despairge

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unless I can run d3d11 and upgrade sm5 -> sm6

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but I need to rip the bandaid and learn sm6 sometime, so maybe we can use this as a learning thing

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rip no aobs

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[2024-09-16 21:34:56] PS Scan attempt 1
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Reading image
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Starting scan
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Scan finished in 133.6047ms
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Found EngineVersion: 5.4
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Found GUObjectArray: 0x7ff6fb505820
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Found GMalloc: 0x7ff6fb4169c8
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Found FName::ToString: 0x7ff6f410b6b0
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Found FName::FName(wchar_t*): 0x7ff6f40ecf00
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Found StaticConstructObject_Internal: 0x7ff6f4309e70
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Failed to find FText::FText(FString&&): expected at least one value
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] You can supply your own AOB in 'UE4SS_Signatures/FText_Constructor.lua'
[2024-09-16 21:34:56] [PS] Scan failed

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the game deletes engine.ini on launch kekw

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really?

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looks correct?

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I set my engine.ini to read only and it doesnt delete

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lets try hdroutput

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doesnt enable hdr for me

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ah

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why 6? its dx12

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sdr || output device 4 in engine.ini

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it seems engine.ini works just fine

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just put this file in your config folder, and set it to read only -- or else it will get deleted on launch

\AppData\Local\Enotria\Saved\Config\Windows

📎 Engine.ini

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yea it looks like its fixed

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no need for anything

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just engine.ini + readonly

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and job done

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unless areas later on are griefed

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it seems bUseHDRDisplayOutput=True does not get reset along side engine.ini tweaks

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this is UE 5.4.4.0 I wonder if output device is fixed

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since this is dx12/HDR10, but no meme output device related issues

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@eternal wren ?

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bt2390 GigaChad

flint oxide Sep 16, 2024, 9:58 PM

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eternal wren i'm not sure what game actually only has hdr on consoles aside from gta5

Deus ex mankind divided

light mist Sep 16, 2024, 10:00 PM

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nba 2k15

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:03 PM

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game looks really nice

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candid rain Sep 16, 2024, 10:04 PM

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fossil narwhal game looks really nice

No luts?

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:04 PM

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fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:04 PM

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candid rain No luts?

well no issue with luts so far

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:04 PM

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fossil narwhal sdr || output device 4 in engine.ini

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fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:07 PM

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fossil narwhal

sdr

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:07 PM

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fossil narwhal

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atleast this first area seems fine

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if future areas are griefed, well shrotfuse gave me the keys to the lutbuilder

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so I'll fix it up despairge

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the game is really pretty, idk how they fit it in 13gb

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:24 PM

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how's the gameplay

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:29 PM

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honestly it looks

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very promising

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I dont plan on playing it until after final fantasy 25

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the 3x preset system looks pog

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the parrys feel ok

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it has that "AA souls like feel"

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but I think with levels/progression its better

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:36 PM

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hope its good, demo felt very off to me

fathom frigate Sep 16, 2024, 10:36 PM

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eternal wren hope its good, demo felt very off to me

Got some updates though to fix many stuttering issues

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:37 PM

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fathom frigate Got some updates though to fix many stuttering issues

i dont mean the tech side really, but the combat felt off

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:37 PM

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yea I heard the demo had some perf issues, and

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:37 PM

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eternal wren i dont mean the tech side really, but the combat felt off

its not steel rising bad

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but it has the AA souls like jank

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no denuvo so

fathom frigate Sep 16, 2024, 10:37 PM

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fossil narwhal no denuvo so

Not gonna affect combat, but yeah haha

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:37 PM

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5.4.4 has to be the newets UE I've seen though

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:37 PM

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fossil narwhal its not steel rising bad

yknow i actually didnt hate steelrising and thought it was okay

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:38 PM

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eternal wren yknow i actually didnt hate steelrising and thought it was okay

and I thought I have brainrot

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there is nothing redeemable in that game

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:38 PM

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frenzy

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:38 PM

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every map is samsey

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like without the compus, you'd never find anything

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because its the same city tileset copy and pasted

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the combat feels ass

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if I didnt meme my friend into finishing it, I would quit after the tutorial area

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:38 PM

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i didnt have issues with finding my way around the levels

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:38 PM

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but I just ran boss to boss

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:39 PM

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eternal wren i didnt have issues with finding my way around the levels

its not hard, its just

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it looks the same

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because it is the same

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:39 PM

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thats what i mean, it wasnt really

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:39 PM

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also there being like 3 trash mobs, but a elemental version of each

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the game is just unredeamable trash imo

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I dont want to get too offtopic

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:39 PM

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ya agree

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:39 PM

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but yea help me out here

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so tons of UE games work with just ini tweaks

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does that mean the SDR game does not use luts?

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or atleast the luts from the lutbuilder we all love

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like what is the technical variable that makes a game "work" with ini tweaks and "break"

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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fossil narwhal does that mean the SDR game does not use luts?

many ue games don't use luts

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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copy

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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it's even kinda discouraged by epic

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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kekw

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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fossil narwhal or atleast the luts from the lutbuilder we all love

lutbuilder always runs

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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btw take alook at this early video

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a friend sent me it yesterday

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I swear it looks like the recording is fucked up

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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the lut is just neutral if you don't plug in a lut texture, but lutbuilder does more than that iirc

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:42 PM

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https://youtu.be/hZhWhiyYk3M?t=2261

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:42 PM

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fossil narwhal like what is the technical variable that makes a game "work" with ini tweaks and...

wdym by "break"

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:42 PM

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eternal wren wdym by "break"

you answered my question

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:42 PM

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is it washed out ui? that would be pre 5.1 unreal shader bug

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:42 PM

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if the game doesnt use luts = ini hdr works

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if it uses luts = lutbuilder goes brr = rip game, unless we fix it

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:42 PM

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well it also works if the game uses luts

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no, it also works fine. it just looks different bc the lut is not used in hdr

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i have no idea what is going on in smt5 but that seems unique

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:43 PM

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eternal wren no, it also works fine. it just looks different bc the lut is not used in hdr

I consider that broken KEKWiggle

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forget about smt5

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I'm using The Thaumaturge as an example

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I consider that 'broken"

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:43 PM

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i don't, not really

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well i agree it doesn't look as intended and needs to be fixed

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but it, well, works

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:44 PM

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I mean if the game looks like apples and oranges between hdr and sdr due to no lut

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thats effectivly broken

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for me a working ini tweak = colors are the same as sdr, etc -- just well hdr you know

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:44 PM

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anyway yeah then. any game using luts will be "broken" without a fixed lutbuilder

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:44 PM

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copy, thats what I was curious about

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also I wonder if the output device nonsense can be fixed via 1 line in the lutbuilder

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:45 PM

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i have a plan for a renodx fixing all the unreal issues in one addon but i don't really want to work on it rn

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:45 PM

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forcing the output device cbuffer to like 3u/4u

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or will that not work

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:45 PM

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fossil narwhal forcing the output device cbuffer to like 3u/4u

i think it's used in more places than just the one shader

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but i'm not sure

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:45 PM

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eternal wren i have a plan for a renodx fixing all the unreal issues in one addon but i don't...

I've been diffing a few lutbuilders, and they're usually pretty much the same give or take a few lines of code

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also enotria is 5.4.4 and doesnt need UUU or UE4SS to run in proper hdr

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:46 PM

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fossil narwhal I've been diffing a few lutbuilders, and they're usually pretty much the same gi...

it'd only work on the unmodified ones, ofc, but that's the vast majority of games

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:46 PM

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is that a ue 5.4x thing?

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:46 PM

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eternal wren it'd only work on the unmodified ones, ofc, but that's the vast majority of game...

ofc

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 10:46 PM

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dunno. but hdr is mostly fine since 5.3

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 10:46 PM

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atlus is meme tech

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dont expect anything universal to work on their games

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Metaphor will be on P5R's engine

so if you dont want to work on it, hopefully I can just copy and pasta the alpha fix if it has issues

eternal wren Sep 16, 2024, 11:08 PM

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i will play metaphor at some point but probably much later

fossil narwhal Sep 16, 2024, 11:17 PM

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hopefully its not cursed and maybe I can make a mod

fossil narwhal Sep 17, 2024, 12:04 AM

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I'm digging through the pix dump for Entronia

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there doesnt seem to be any luts

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there are tons of mentions of lumen, and the other fancy UE5 features

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so thats cool

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and raytracing

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I assume the RT mentions are just lumen

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virtual shadow maps!

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 10:00 PM

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I was thinking, and we need to start a list, something like

Game Name
Does UE Ini tweaks work yes/no
-- If it doesn't, what's the issue
Does it need UE4SS/UUU [and does it work with UE4SS/my package]
Does it need Ersh's UI fix
Does it need framegen fix

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I have a few games:

-Sandland, works perfeclty
needs UE4SS [my package] + Ersh's UI fix for 4.27

Remnant 2 works perfectly
needs UE4SS/my package + ui fix + framegen fix

Enotria: The Last Song Works perfectly
Just needs ini settings set in engine.ini + engine.ini set to READ ONLY or else the game will delete engine.ini on launch
you have to create the engine.ini file yourself

Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance doesnt work
see https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1259662884779331675 for an alternative

light mist Oct 2, 2024, 10:04 PM

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there is on the pcgw...

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 10:11 PM

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light mist there is on the pcgw...

o

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nvm

dusky condor Oct 2, 2024, 10:21 PM

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I don't think pcgw includes ue4ss stuff though

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 10:23 PM

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dusky condor I don't think pcgw includes ue4ss stuff though

ue4ss is a workaround for dx12 games

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since we need to force output device 3/4

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but you cant do that with just engine.ini in most UI versions

dusky condor Oct 2, 2024, 10:32 PM

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yeah I just mean that a lot of that list is "wrong" when factoring in the package you put together

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 10:33 PM

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the package fixs dx12 games thanks to UE4SS + my scripts -- but the issue is not everything is UE4SS compatable despairge

dusky condor Oct 2, 2024, 10:34 PM

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also the shader fixes are huge, praise Ersh

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would uploading that package with instructions even be a thing that could go on pcgw?

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 10:37 PM

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yea, the UI fix is what make the mod usuable in the first place

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 10:37 PM

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dusky condor would uploading that package with instructions even be a thing that could go on ...

it should be, the package has a license file and everything is like

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properly credited

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but ersh is working on a proper UE fix

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so its probably better to wait for that maybe

eternal wren Oct 2, 2024, 10:40 PM

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fossil narwhal but ersh is working on a proper UE fix

i am in fact not working on it
just plan to at some point

little folio Oct 2, 2024, 10:55 PM

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unlike the pattern for DX12 swapchain format it's far more annoying to find the code forcing outputdevice to 5/6 🙃

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DX12 swapchain format was literally just following a string you can grab from the source code straight back to the right function

candid rain Oct 2, 2024, 11:14 PM

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dusky condor I don't think pcgw includes ue4ss stuff though

u can

candid rain Oct 2, 2024, 11:14 PM

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eternal wren i am in fact not working on it just plan to at some point

we'll get to it "soon". Prey and Starfield are first.

candid rain Oct 2, 2024, 11:16 PM

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fossil narwhal I have a few games: -**Sandland**, works perfeclty needs UE4SS [my package] + ...

so Enotrial deletes engine.ini? Really? Or does it clear it from custom settings?

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could u add it here:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_4-5_games_where_HDR_can_be_forced

List of Unreal Engine 4-5 games where HDR can be forced

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 11:20 PM

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candid rain so Enotrial deletes engine.ini? Really? Or does it clear it from custom settings...

yes

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it doesnt come with an engine.ini file

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it only comes with "gameusersettings"

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if you create engine.ini, it will delete it on launch

read-only fixs it

candid rain Oct 2, 2024, 11:22 PM

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interesting

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tbh, I never understood why UE creates inis with default settings in them...

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 11:45 PM

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candid rain tbh, I never understood why UE creates inis with default settings in them...

even worse: 100 ini files, all empty except

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gameusersettings.ini

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which is most games for me

candid rain Oct 2, 2024, 11:52 PM

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fossil narwhal it only comes with "gameusersettings"

added it to pcgw.

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seems like pcgw went to shit lately.

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 11:58 PM

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what happened?

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I usually go there via my steamdb extension to check stuff out

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but not too often

candid rain Oct 2, 2024, 11:58 PM

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fossil narwhal what happened?

Aemony left? dunno

fossil narwhal Oct 2, 2024, 11:59 PM

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iirc he said he wasnt that involved anyway or something

candid rain Oct 3, 2024, 12:03 AM

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nobody is making pages for new games.

fossil narwhal Oct 3, 2024, 12:05 AM

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oh

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I dont think aemony did that, people just did it

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like I made a page

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for a game that didnt exist

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I used to think it was automatic

primal cargo Oct 6, 2024, 5:27 PM

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candid rain nobody is making pages for new games.

We should make an HDRDen wiki. Screw SDR.

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 5:32 PM

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primal cargo We should make an HDRDen wiki. Screw SDR.

i mean, unironically yes. we should have a writeup with a lot of the basic stuff as a way to combat the shitty misinfo like "rtx hdr is better than native"

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simple explanations why this cannot be true in 99% cases, etc

primal cargo Oct 6, 2024, 5:34 PM

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https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki

Authors are adding stuff here, but there's undoubtedly going to be some overlap with a less RenoDX specific Wiki

candid rain Oct 6, 2024, 5:40 PM

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eternal wren i mean, unironically yes. we should have a writeup with a lot of the basic stuff...

no pls 😄

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SK already has a wiki

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we should just join forces with PCGW

candid rain Oct 6, 2024, 5:41 PM

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eternal wren i mean, unironically yes. we should have a writeup with a lot of the basic stuff...

people that say "rtx hdr is better than native" aren't gonna read our wiki, and even if they did, they wouldn't care.

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 5:43 PM

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candid rain people that say "rtx hdr is better than native" aren't gonna read our wiki, and ...

you can shut them up with linking to a good writeup though.

candid rain Oct 6, 2024, 5:43 PM

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eternal wren you can shut them up with linking to a good writeup though.

they just won't answer, but you won't defeat them

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 5:43 PM

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yes, but people read those comments

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and like, people come into hdr all confused

candid rain Oct 6, 2024, 5:44 PM

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I mean, a wiki with a couple of general pages about how to set up HDR etc and the basics is good.

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 5:44 PM

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and chances are they'll end up on some bad youtube channel that praises rtx hdr everywhere

candid rain Oct 6, 2024, 5:44 PM

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pcgw kinda has that stuff

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but a per game wiki, no 🙂

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 5:44 PM

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candid rain but a per game wiki, no 🙂

nono i didnt mean a per game wiki heh

fossil narwhal Oct 6, 2024, 7:49 PM

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eternal wren and chances are they'll end up on some bad youtube channel that praises rtx hdr ...

I'm with you, the "normies" will probably either not want to dick around with all this or find a big channel praising AutoHDR

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especially without an understanding of "what hdr is"

they see w11 autohdr/rtx hdr making their game bright and pretty and they think job done

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 8:24 PM

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theres no good writeup to point to i think. random posts around from people that know what they're talking about, for sure

fossil narwhal Oct 6, 2024, 8:33 PM

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yea, but it would be a whole wall of text

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that most people would go "y do this over rtx hdr"

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 8:39 PM

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not necessarily a wall of text

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just a simple concise explanation why stretching sdr data is still missing all the info that was lost from tonemapping to sdr

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then some faq about common issues (if your game looks wrong and washed out, the native hdr is probably not "broken", but you have technical issues or a shitty screen - here's the common issues and fixes - nvapi shit etc)

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idk, i'm not good at writing things up. but i think a writeup would be very useful

fossil narwhal Oct 6, 2024, 8:51 PM

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might be better in small yt episode form

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I'm planning on breaking up the pix guide in small yt episodes, because it would be walls of text

eternal wren Oct 6, 2024, 8:56 PM

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fossil narwhal might be better in small yt episode form

for some maybe, i'd definitely prefer a writeup personally

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but yeah there's still an unfilled niche (i think) of a pc hdr youtuber that is well informed

fossil narwhal Oct 6, 2024, 9:17 PM

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I was going to make them unlisted [just so I can embed them on the wiki]

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just because for something like pix for example, its easier to explain how to go through the menus in video form

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vs. take 20 screenshots

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3 parts

how to setup + capture
how to analyze capture [srv/rtv/etc]
how to convert a bin to hlsl via shortfuse's dcompiler to luma's bin2hlsl

dusky condor Oct 7, 2024, 11:37 AM

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candid rain people that say "rtx hdr is better than native" aren't gonna read our wiki, and ...

Well, at this point I think most are familiar with the arguments all around and are entrenched in what their experiences tell them. I think most people think autohdr is "fine" at this point, but a lot of people think RTX HDR is better than native in many cases, and the reason why is because it has correct gamma, good default paperwhite, and gets very bright. People are aware that more bits = better, but I don't think they really know what that means, like they might take away "less banding", but I don't think people understand how compressed the top range of SDR content really is (in large part because you can crank the brightness on it). Nobody really shares comparison shots focused on detailing that point (in large part due to difficulties of sharing HDR images online in the first place). A zoomed in shot comparing RTX HDR vs Native HDR of a highly exposed area would make it quite clear that it's not just more intermediate steps and more brightness, it's vastly more detail. Not sure this is a point that can be driven home without forcing the eye away from preferring whichever image has more contrast.

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at the end of the day it's a problem created by so many developers implementing HDR in a lackluster way. Even if it's solvable with reshade or whatever, we're now talking about a level of knowledge to recognize and solve a problem that also requires an understanding that native hdr is worth fixing over disabling and using rtx hdr or w/e.

wheat light Oct 7, 2024, 11:27 PM

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dusky condor Well, at this point I think most are familiar with the arguments all around and ...

For some time I think people enjoy these bright surfaces of AutoHDR rtx hdr and other techniques because it's a intenser experience. It's basically the same as putting SDR at max brightness but the image is also shaped to " highlight highlights".

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HDR is hard to sell because it "doesn't really bring much improvements" that the average user can tell apart.
In essence HDR is just more dynamic range covered and PQ at 11.5 bit or higher is theoretically banding free.

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HDR is sold under the aspect of higher brightness when that is just one of the pieces making it better than SDR.

regal jetty Oct 8, 2024, 6:12 PM

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I think the difference is significant where it matters(depending on display) . But it's not significant all the time.

dusky condor Oct 8, 2024, 6:36 PM

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maybe this is a good place to ask, anybody know what cvar UUU messes with for its FOV adjustments in UE5?

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 10:47 AM

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can you force HDR in The Quarry?

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 AM

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lost current can you force HDR in The Quarry?

no

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 10:48 AM

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alright

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does it work with pipeline remasters

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 11:00 AM

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lost current does it work with pipeline remasters

I played it with SK HDR

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 11:00 AM

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yes I mean can you use any of the remaster options

dry hollow Oct 12, 2024, 11:04 AM

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candid rain no

what happens if you use them, does it insta crash

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 11:06 AM

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dry hollow what happens if you use them, does it insta crash

ignored, if I recall

dry hollow Oct 12, 2024, 11:08 AM

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weird. did you try all the different methods back then, UE4SS, UUU, ...

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quarry's engine ver is 4.26.2 according to pcgw, so the cvars should definitely exist

vivid wave Oct 12, 2024, 12:37 PM

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lost current can you force HDR in The Quarry?

I played the quarry for the first time last night with rtx hdr and damn it looked mindblowing. I will try SK tonight as well.

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 12:43 PM

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its a dx12 game so no remasters

flint oxide Oct 12, 2024, 12:48 PM

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It’s dx11 according to pcgw

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Ya I tried ini edits and it didn’t work

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I’ll try UUU

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 12:49 PM

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flint oxide It’s dx11 according to pcgw

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eh I don't care enough to bother, inverse tonemap gonna be sufficient

flint oxide Oct 12, 2024, 12:50 PM

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Someone with an account fix that

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There’s a saturate in a compute shader that I’m unable to decompile properly

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 12:50 PM

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also 2022 game with zero upscalers

flint oxide Oct 12, 2024, 12:51 PM

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And it runs like shit

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 12:51 PM

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yah I heard

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capped it at 72

flint oxide Oct 12, 2024, 12:51 PM

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Setting to low barely gives me any more fps

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 12:53 PM

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I really don't care for these kinds of games, but it's fun to play with someone else, my gf wanted to play Until Dawn with me, but until that is patched we can just play this

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from what I heard it's a better game/story

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I watched a playthrough of Until Dawn when it was new

vivid wave Oct 12, 2024, 12:58 PM

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lost current eh I don't care enough to bother, inverse tonemap gonna be sufficient

Share you reshade settings when you get it working pls...

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 1:09 PM

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why would I use reshade

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SK profile 0 and that's it

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 1:22 PM

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dry hollow weird. did you try all the different methods back then, UE4SS, UUU, ...

no

vivid wave Oct 12, 2024, 1:41 PM

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lost current why would I use reshade

Thought you said using inverse tone mapping? Isnt that a reshade option?

lost current Oct 12, 2024, 1:43 PM

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If you're doing SDR to HDR and not extracting any additional information then you're just doing an inverse tonemap

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just make sure you keep the nits relatively low at 400-500

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otherwise you're just overblowing and stretching it

flint oxide Oct 12, 2024, 1:48 PM

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vivid wave Thought you said using inverse tone mapping? Isnt that a reshade option?

You can do it through reshade but SK also has its own built in version

vivid wave Oct 12, 2024, 2:14 PM

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👍 I will try SK too... HDR10 and profile 0. Lets see of it has better results than rtx hdr

vagrant gulch Oct 12, 2024, 6:45 PM

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not really HDR related, but why don't more games use virtual shadows from UE? off vs forced on in satisfactory

feral willow Oct 12, 2024, 7:02 PM

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VSM are designated to work with nanite geometry, otherwise there are expensive or can have visual issues

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and full fat nanite is still not a thing, nanaite for characters is currently in beta as for UE5.5

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You can see in the screens you posted that VSM cut the performance in half

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I'm gonna guess that Satisfactory is not using nanite at all

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 7:25 PM

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vagrant gulch not really HDR related, but why don't more games use virtual shadows from UE? of...

both look good to me 🙂

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I guess one is more physically accurate, but that doesn't necessarily mean beautiful

vagrant gulch Oct 12, 2024, 7:26 PM

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candid rain I guess one is more physically accurate, but that doesn't necessarily mean beaut...

the left one is more noisy in motion too though

vagrant gulch Oct 12, 2024, 7:27 PM

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feral willow You can see in the screens you posted that VSM cut the performance in half

it didn't really I just took the photo too fast after enabling, it does a dip in FPS as it enables but then it goes back up to normal

vagrant gulch Oct 12, 2024, 7:28 PM

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feral willow You can see in the screens you posted that VSM cut the performance in half

Example 2 off vs on. FPS is about the same

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 7:29 PM

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vagrant gulch Example 2 off vs on. FPS is about the same

k that's nice

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what no

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left one looks more realistic?

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 7:30 PM

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vagrant gulch not really HDR related, but why don't more games use virtual shadows from UE? of...

even here

vagrant gulch Oct 12, 2024, 7:30 PM

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candid rain left one looks more realistic?

again not in motion :/ wish i could show you but the left is flickering like crazy

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 7:30 PM

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I had assumed you put "better" on left and "worse" on right

candid rain Oct 12, 2024, 7:30 PM

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candid rain I had assumed you put "better" on left and "worse" on right

(which is not what I'd usually do, so indeed, you put them worse and better :D, cool)

vagrant gulch Oct 12, 2024, 7:33 PM

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candid rain (which is not what I'd usually do, so indeed, you put them worse and better :D, ...

also for tree shadows they're much more detailed. Worse left better right

flint oxide Oct 12, 2024, 10:09 PM

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lost current

did you force dx12 in ini and forget to remove that

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fossil narwhal Oct 12, 2024, 10:14 PM

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btw the other week I learned ini tweaks aces is actually asses

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sdr -- ini tweaks -- fixed aces/renodx

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ignore the sky buing blue in the ini tweaks, the ini tweaks dont load the SDR lut

the gud aces give you more shadow detail, less raised blacks, etc

Ignore the broken UI, I didnt fix it

eternal wren Oct 12, 2024, 10:21 PM

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fossil narwhal ignore the sky buing blue in the ini tweaks, the ini tweaks dont load the SDR lu...

the ini tweaks dont load the SDR lut
yes we knew this for a while already. pumbo has a fixed version of the shader that does lut extrapolation

fossil narwhal Oct 12, 2024, 10:21 PM

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its not just the sdr lut

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I'm mostly interested in shadows

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you think you can slap that in too

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like the proper aces

eternal wren Oct 12, 2024, 10:22 PM

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isnt this gamma mismatch or something

fossil narwhal Oct 12, 2024, 10:25 PM

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shortfuse said its real aces

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vs. scuffed aces

eternal wren Oct 12, 2024, 10:29 PM

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isnt unreal's hdr aces the real one, vs sdr being scuffed?

fossil narwhal Oct 12, 2024, 10:29 PM

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idr anymore

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it was somethng about using the wrong values and etc

lost current Oct 13, 2024, 6:29 AM

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flint oxide did you force dx12 in ini and forget to remove that

didn't touch it

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it didnt even have an engine ini

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and it gets wiped each time

vivid wave Oct 18, 2024, 2:16 PM

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Looks like no HDR again on UE game

https://youtu.be/HpthfBXnC18?si=GLzqbL2Rdbs7EBNs

YouTube

Frozburn

A Quiet Place The Road Ahead - Ray Tracing 4K DLSS Epic Settings | ...

This footage showcases the performance of the RTX 4090 in A Quiet Place The Road Ahead, using 4K DLSS Quality with Ray Tracing and Epic Settings. Recorded with Shadowplay, which results in a 5 FPS loss.

0:00 : Intro
0:249 : Settings
1:07 : 4K DLSS Quality, Ray Tracing Epic Settings

▶️ PC Specs
✅ Monitor: Neo G8 32" 4K 240Hz
✅ CPU: i9 13900K
✅ ...

▶ Play video

candid rain Oct 18, 2024, 2:29 PM

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vivid wave Looks like no HDR again on UE game https://youtu.be/HpthfBXnC18?si=GLzqbL2Rdbs...

ini will probably work

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UE version?

vivid wave Oct 18, 2024, 2:33 PM

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candid rain UE version?

PCwiki doesnt say

lost current Oct 18, 2024, 3:00 PM

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game surprisingly has hardware lumen

candid rain Oct 18, 2024, 6:44 PM

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Then it should be good

candid rain Oct 23, 2024, 3:09 AM

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https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/pull/12444

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 3:20 AM

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404

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screenshot

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no timmy acc

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wat u make

flint oxide Oct 23, 2024, 3:21 AM

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make the account

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 3:21 AM

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no

flint oxide Oct 23, 2024, 3:21 AM

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use a burner email

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 3:21 AM

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its not about the email

flint oxide Oct 23, 2024, 3:21 AM

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its good for learning

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 3:21 AM

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its about the principle

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we went over this

flint oxide Oct 23, 2024, 3:21 AM

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they already own the industry

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 3:22 AM

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if people thought like that, we wouldn't have any change

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but yea can I get a pic of what the pr is pls

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ersh sent me a pic

flint oxide Oct 23, 2024, 3:33 AM

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fossil narwhal if people thought like that, we wouldn't have any change

ya fair

candid rain Oct 23, 2024, 3:56 AM

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fossil narwhal its about the principle

Epic is not evil

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 3:56 AM

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I have no issue with

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unreal engine, EAC/EOS

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or epic's first party games

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but I beleive EGS is a meme platform that only holds games back

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fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 3:58 AM

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fossil narwhal

best case scenerio

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worst case scenerio people forget about the game, and it dies by the time it hits steam

flint oxide Oct 23, 2024, 4:02 AM

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at the same time steam needs to have competition

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its just that epic is poor competition

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 4:02 AM

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pretty much ^

flint oxide Oct 23, 2024, 4:02 AM

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still better than rockstar games launcher

fossil narwhal Oct 23, 2024, 4:03 AM

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I also refuse to buy and play (even pirate) games that require a launcher on steam

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imo its peak pepeg

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especially if its a singel player game, like the new sony launcher stuff

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but this boycott has been going on for years

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like I already have a steam account, and bought the game on steam -- why do I need another account and another overlay to play a single player game -- like cammon

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thats why I dont play any EA/Ubi games

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there are tons of games I'd love to play, but refuse to because I cant give up

eternal wren Oct 23, 2024, 4:15 AM

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candid rain Epic is not evil

blink twice if you're being held hostage

candid rain Oct 23, 2024, 11:37 AM

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fossil narwhal there are tons of games I'd love to play, but refuse to because I cant give up

I wish people actually had this integrity for stuff that matters in the world 😄

regal jetty Oct 23, 2024, 1:54 PM

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fossil narwhal

It's proof focusing on customers works better than focusing on devs.

Even devs care more about customers than themselves.

vivid wave Nov 5, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Hello, this may be a stupid question but is there a list of UE game this works for or doesnt work for?

pine coral Nov 6, 2024, 12:31 AM

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vivid wave Hello, this may be a stupid question but is there a list of UE game this works f...

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_4-5_games_where_HDR_can_be_forced

List of Unreal Engine 4-5 games where HDR can be forced

fossil narwhal Nov 6, 2024, 12:33 AM

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"works" is a

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broad term

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you'll have games that go into hdr and all that -- but the SDR Lut wont load, so the color grading isg oing to be rip

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or you'll have a game that can work, but ue4ss doesnt work, like banishers

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so you'll have to use UUU (or hex edit)

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forcing ini hdr is a ton of fun

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you can get around stuff with -d3d11 but you loose the huge cpu perf UE gives running in dx12

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my suggestion is just go on a game by game basis

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if a game you want to play works, nice

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if not, rip

vivid wave Nov 6, 2024, 1:07 AM

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👍

fossil narwhal Nov 6, 2024, 1:22 AM

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my suggestion is just try your game and see what happens; too many unknowns

brazen fern Nov 9, 2024, 9:25 AM

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In ‘Nobody wants to Die’, HDR forcing through the ini seems to work. Does anyone have experience with the game?

candid rain Nov 9, 2024, 2:42 PM

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brazen fern In ‘Nobody wants to Die’, HDR forcing through the ini seems to work. Does anyone...

search the chats. I think it was clipped anyway?

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can't remember

feral willow Nov 9, 2024, 3:14 PM

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brazen fern In ‘Nobody wants to Die’, HDR forcing through the ini seems to work. Does anyone...

I've played the entire game with the ini HDR, looked good to me

brazen fern Nov 10, 2024, 9:05 AM

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ok thanks. I searched the threads and some said SK would be better. For me, it actually looks good with ini forced.

lost current Nov 11, 2024, 9:40 AM

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Does the HDR mod work with Little Nightmares 1?

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installed it and it's not doing anything

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2nd game fatal errors

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well at least the enhanced edition I wanna play

fossil narwhal Nov 12, 2024, 12:05 AM

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what setup are you using

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the package I made with UE4SS?

fossil narwhal Nov 12, 2024, 1:06 AM

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I have little nightmares 1, so I'll try it out

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ue4ss does not work with the game, missing AOBs

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it seems just injecting reshade = crash

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I think the UE version is ancient, not even ini tweaks work here

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they use the old ue4 logo on startup

lost current Nov 12, 2024, 8:05 AM

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fossil narwhal the package I made with UE4SS?

yes

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it does nothing in the 1st game

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in the sequel it crashes on startup

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the sequel got updated with RT so I am guessing it's recent enough

dry hollow Nov 12, 2024, 8:34 AM

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Yea little nightmares 2 should work with the ini tweaks, in DX11 at least

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https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_4-5_games_where_HDR_can_be_forced

List of Unreal Engine 4-5 games where HDR can be forced

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Sometimes UE4SS just fails but the engine ini stuff still works

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If you want to keep RT with dx12 you would need to use UUU to force OutputDevice 3

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Or patch the game's exe to allow for output device 5 to work

lost current Nov 12, 2024, 11:32 AM

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dry hollow If you want to keep RT with dx12 you would need to use UUU to force OutputDevice...

how would that work

dry hollow Nov 12, 2024, 12:35 PM

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By using the console that is enabled with UUU

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But if the game crashes on startup due to the HDR cvars then UUU will also make the game crash

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But if it's related to UE4SS, UUU might work

fossil narwhal Nov 12, 2024, 10:12 PM

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I think the game is too old for ini tweaks

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I tried manually editing engine.ini, and got nothing

candid rain Nov 13, 2024, 5:41 PM

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https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/7bd33ce4a7c0c295bdd78d9eb920530aea6b45ba
Epic merged the fix we proposed.
The issue that causes Silent Hill 2 scene brightness depend on the UI paper white.

eternal wren Nov 13, 2024, 5:46 PM

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candid rain https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/7bd33ce4a7c0c295bdd78d9eb920530...

The issue that causes ~~Silent Hill 2~~ every Unreal game's scene brightness depend on the UI paper white.

light mist Nov 13, 2024, 7:08 PM

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dry hollow Nov 13, 2024, 7:09 PM

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light mist

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https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/downloading-unreal-engine-source-code

vivid wave Nov 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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candid rain https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/7bd33ce4a7c0c295bdd78d9eb920530...

What does this mean for Ersh's SH2 black floor fix, if anything?

flint oxide Nov 13, 2024, 7:21 PM

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vivid wave What does this mean for Ersh's SH2 black floor fix, if anything?

its highly unlikely bloober would update to a newer version of unreal

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its just that the specific issue with raised blacks from ui is gone now from newer games that come out

vivid wave Nov 13, 2024, 8:26 PM

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flint oxide its just that the specific issue with raised blacks from ui is gone now from new...

Well at least, thats a win for future games... maybe we'll see it in MGS Delta via software update?

flint oxide Nov 13, 2024, 9:17 PM

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I’m not familiar with development schedules in gaming but I imagine they wouldn’t risk updating stuff so late into development and potentially breaking something

feral willow Nov 13, 2024, 9:28 PM

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We don't really know how far into the development they are
The game still doesn't have release date

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It's also hard to say how much they modified the engine

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If it's fairly vanilla the update could be rather smooth

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That said, I doubt any AAA game coming out soon will use it

candid rain Nov 13, 2024, 9:49 PM

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feral willow We don't really know how far into the development they are The game still doesn'...

no way they are upgrading

candid rain Nov 13, 2024, 9:49 PM

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feral willow It's also hard to say how much they modified the engine

0%

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 12:08 AM

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Im getting grey black bars in Robocop with updated ini file... any idea why? I put the gamma all the way to zero.

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Also anyway to verify the hdr actually kicked in? SK does show its HDR10 but RTSS UI is sdr

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Maybe reshade

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:07 AM

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This is what I have added to the file so far:

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=5
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode = 1
r.HDR.UI.Luminance=790

flint oxide Nov 14, 2024, 1:14 AM

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vivid wave Im getting grey black bars in Robocop with updated ini file... any idea why? I p...

its probably that code from before

flint oxide Nov 14, 2024, 1:14 AM

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vivid wave Also anyway to verify the hdr actually kicked in? SK does show its HDR10 but RTS...

reshade hdr analysis

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also the highlights are bright

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from what I played it should be very clear when its hdr

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:15 AM

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flint oxide its probably that code from before

code from before?

flint oxide Nov 14, 2024, 1:15 AM

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the stuff that was causing the raised blacks in hellblade 2

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srgbfromlinear() I think was the function

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or linearfromsrgb()

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idk

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:15 AM

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hmm ok i will search for it

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only the black bars are grey from what I can tell but who knows, HDR analysis will shed some light

flint oxide Nov 14, 2024, 1:19 AM

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candid rain https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/7bd33ce4a7c0c295bdd78d9eb920530...

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this code

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is what was causing the raised black bars

eternal wren Nov 14, 2024, 1:23 AM

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flint oxide is what was causing the raised black bars

it’s a small raise tho. i wouldn’t call it grey, more like not-pure-black

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if they’re grey it might be something else. screenshot?

flint oxide Nov 14, 2024, 1:25 AM

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i think thats what they mean by gray black

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enough to turn on the pixel on an OLED

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:44 AM

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eternal wren if they’re grey it might be something else. screenshot?

i;ll see if i can get a screenshot

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Here's the game otherwise, without black bars, looks fine

eternal wren Nov 14, 2024, 1:46 AM

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it's sdr

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:50 AM

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Def. looks more grey when playing

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HDR Analysis confirms its HDR10

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HDR ss

eternal wren Nov 14, 2024, 1:52 AM

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ya it's very likely this exact issue

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what version is it btw

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5.2

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:53 AM

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eternal wren Nov 14, 2024, 1:54 AM

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probably won't work but you can try the silent hill 2 fix here

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the ui shader might actually be the same between 5.1 and 5.2 i don't remember

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:54 AM

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eternal wren the ui shader might actually be the same between 5.1 and 5.2 i don't remember

ohh same black floor fix?

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ya i can give it a shot

eternal wren Nov 14, 2024, 1:54 AM

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yea wont hurt to test

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 1:59 AM

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eternal wren yea wont hurt to test

Did not work, as in the mod does any change the image in any way

eternal wren Nov 14, 2024, 1:59 AM

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ah well

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 2:02 AM

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So no real solution to what Musa was eluding to?

eternal wren Nov 14, 2024, 2:03 AM

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not rn. we'll eventually make an universal unreal fixer

vivid wave Nov 14, 2024, 2:21 AM

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Unreal would be amazing they said

remote carbon Nov 16, 2024, 1:17 PM

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Did anyone try to "fix" Wuthering Waves's HDR?

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it's UE4, DX11/DX12

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the peak brightness seems to be "fixed" no matter what

prisma jackal Nov 16, 2024, 1:39 PM

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If it's just peak brightness then you can use lilium tonemapper

remote carbon Nov 16, 2024, 7:58 PM

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prisma jackal If it's just peak brightness then you can use lilium tonemapper

I mean it's limited to ~120 nits

primal gulch Nov 24, 2024, 3:16 PM

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while my lilium tutorial is cooking i'd like to try this mod, do you guys have a game in mind that works flawlessly ?

candid rain Nov 24, 2024, 3:39 PM

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primal gulch while my lilium tutorial is cooking i'd like to try this mod, do you guys have a...

there's only a UI and HDR frame gen fix for now, work is not done.

primal gulch Nov 24, 2024, 3:41 PM

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you're talking about your very cooked mod, so I can't just cover how to convert UE in general with the pinned stuff ?

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with the ui fix

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then i'll wait :p

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well guess that's that

fossil narwhal Nov 24, 2024, 9:01 PM

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the pinned stuff is just ini tweaks with ersh's ui shader fix

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the only difference is it uses UE4SS instead of editing the ini, so it works in some dx12 games

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because you cant use ini tweaks in dx12 (well you can, but the output device will be wrong)

primal gulch Nov 24, 2024, 9:09 PM

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fossil narwhal the pinned stuff is just ini tweaks with ersh's ui shader fix

ya

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I wanted to cover that in a sense

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but i'm just gonna wait

fossil narwhal Nov 24, 2024, 9:10 PM

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if ue4ss works is hit or miss

sour kraken Nov 27, 2024, 4:17 AM

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Currently applying these settings for Ready or Not and it looks stellar.

[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=5
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1
r.HDR.UI.Luminance=200
r.Streamline.TagUIColorAlpha=0

I've seen the mentions of using ue4ss to force OutputDevice=3 (since I am running the DX12 version of the game) but doesnt FG not work with scRGB?

sour kraken Nov 27, 2024, 4:58 AM

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full patio Nov 29, 2024, 4:17 AM

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sour kraken Currently applying these settings for Ready or Not and it looks stellar. [Syste...

AFAIK UE5 just doesn't do DX12 and scRGB, at least not in the versions of UE I've tried which is mostly 5.2

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Does anyone know why TonemapperGamma wouldn't do anything in Jedi Fallen Order, UE4

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I am trying to do the gamma correction in engine instead of via reshade

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also fiddling with SKs remaster, which doesn't seem to break anything except FMV granted I don't know exactly what it does

kind beacon Dec 9, 2024, 12:20 PM

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Has anyone tried this with Fortnite? I tried it once just changing one param and it didn't let me launch the game. I'm surprised that it still doesn't have HDR support

fossil narwhal Dec 9, 2024, 11:07 PM

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this wont work with fortnite

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you'll need w11 force autohdr (if thats fixed on 24h2)

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or rtx hdr

light mist Dec 20, 2024, 11:56 PM

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the skulls look kinda broken?

fossil narwhal Dec 20, 2024, 11:56 PM

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hat game is that

light mist Dec 20, 2024, 11:56 PM

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rain code

fossil narwhal Dec 20, 2024, 11:57 PM

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but yea it looks very broken

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if uts ue4.27

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try throwing this in for fun

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📎 renodx-visionsofmana.addon64

light mist Dec 20, 2024, 11:57 PM

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alright

fossil narwhal Dec 20, 2024, 11:57 PM

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its still a wip, but why not

light mist Dec 20, 2024, 11:58 PM

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is vom dx12?

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yes

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damn this is dx11

fossil narwhal Dec 20, 2024, 11:58 PM

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try forcing

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dx12

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-d3d12

light mist Dec 20, 2024, 11:59 PM

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cursed

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:00 AM

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the game isnt on steam

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is it a mobile game

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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DID YOU DISABLE THE INI TWEAKS

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2903950/Master_Detective_Archives_RAIN_CODE_Plus/

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light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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fossil narwhal DID YOU DISABLE THE INI TWEAKS

n

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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oops cap

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put the addon ina fter turning off ini tweaks

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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aight

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:02 AM

#

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does this have action

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:02 AM

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lol

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yea he has a sword

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:03 AM

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lame its all talking

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I looked it up

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looked cool

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:03 AM

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fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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light mist

no ini tweaks?

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that means it uses the same lutbuilders, just needs sampling done

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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fossil narwhal lame its all talking

you use the sword to slice words or smth

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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fossil narwhal no ini tweaks?

no ini tweaks

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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if I had the sample shader, I'd be able to make a mod in 30 seconds for you

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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sample shader?

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:04 AM

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it comes after the lutbuidler in the devkit

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it looks like

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https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/main/src/games/smt5/sample1_0xBBA0606A.ps_5_1.hlsl

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:05 AM

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alright it should be easy enough to find I guess

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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it gets drawn to the swapchain

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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do I still need to use dx12?

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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yea

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:06 AM

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damn

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:07 AM

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why is that an issue

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also the ui might not be 100%; I didnt setup the final shader yet for UE

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:09 AM

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fossil narwhal why is that an issue

because it'll probably cause shader stutter

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:09 AM

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rip

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:09 AM

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and damn these ue shaders have a fuck ton of lines

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well some do

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is this one of them?

📎 0x62676F13.ps_5_0.hlsl

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might be these 4 maybe

📎 0xDF7DB7E8.ps_5_0.hlsl 📎 0x346CFBCF.ps_5_0.hlsl 📎 0xA90FDC20.ps_5_0.hlsl

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:19 AM

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well we need to know the one the scene uses

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can you inject the devkit

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if you enable/deisable it

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the game willgo black I think

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:20 AM

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yea the game def did not go black

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the only shader that made the game go black was the final shader

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:20 AM

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there should be no final shader in ue4.27

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:21 AM

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oh

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well these two shaders at the end make the game go black

📎 0x388FF776.ps_5_0.hlsl 📎 0xBBA0606A.ps_5_0.hlsl

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:23 AM

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LMAO BBA

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CustomShaderEntry(0xBBA0606A), // Sample1

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I already have that shader

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give me 30 seconds

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:23 AM

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BBA?

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:24 AM

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the shader is bba

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give me a few min

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:25 AM

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game looks kinda bad with inverse tonemapping

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its too bright

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:31 AM

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I broke the ui

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:31 AM

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rip

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:38 AM

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try this for fun

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no ui but

📎 renodx-visionsofmana.addon64

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soon ™️

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:38 AM

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dope

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posted the jxr so it doesn't embed

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:46 AM

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lmao rip

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maybe it has a diff lutbuilder

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 12:49 AM

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yeah... I'll just stick to sk

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or maybe "renodx lite" would be easier

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 12:53 AM

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if I could look at the devkit

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I'd be able to figure it out

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 3:55 PM

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light mist or maybe "renodx lite" would be easier

I looked at rain code and fixed the forced UE HDR, they just added a shader after everything that uses saturate(), so it's clamped

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they also have a "hatching" effect shader that doesn't like values outside 0..1

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so only PQ works, output device 3/4

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I'll make a package with UE4SS real quick for you

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:10 PM

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wow

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that was a way easier fix than I thought

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the only issue is dx12 only

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:11 PM

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wdym

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its for dx11

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:11 PM

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output device 3/4

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oh

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:11 PM

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I'm just doing pq -> scrgb at the end

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:11 PM

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dope

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:12 PM

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you can also do that with any ue game (dx11 + od3/4) through Lilium's map SDR to HDR shader

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if you select PQ there

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:12 PM

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ngl I don't really get it

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how would lilium's map sdr to hdr shader change that?

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I thought hdr10 is just straight up broken in dx11

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:13 PM

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the enablehdr cvar creates a scrgb swapchain in dx11 I believe

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and if you then use od3/4, UE renders everything in hdr10/pq

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so you just have to convert pq to scrgb, otherwise its washed out

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through a reshade shader

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or by editing a game's "output" shader

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:14 PM

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ic

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Master Detective Archives: Rain Code HDR Package

Needs to be unpacked next to the game's main exe RainCodePlus-Win64-Shipping.exe in <Rain Code Location>\RainCodePlus\Binaries\Win64

📎 RainCodeHDRPackage.zip

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I hope this works for you

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:34 PM

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oh oops

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I messed up the hdr screenshot

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ah whatever, but it works thx

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there is some gamut expansion, but tbh it should be easy enough to clamp it in renodx

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also I think you missed some ui shaders, but ersh's shaders should handle that I think

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not quite time to investigate I guess

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:46 PM

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light mist also I think you missed some ui shaders, but ersh's shaders should handle that I...

wait what UI elements are washed out

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:47 PM

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the character portrait for example

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you can kinda see it in the image I posted

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:53 PM

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Master_Detective_Archives__RAIN_CODE_21.12.2024_18_48_48.png

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:53 PM

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light mist the character portrait for example

does it not look like this for you

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:53 PM

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it might be because I'm using lyall's mod

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:53 PM

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oh

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:53 PM

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but yea it does not

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nvm it's not because of lyall

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📎 0x347C3825.ps_5_0.hlsl 📎 0x9888AE4D.ps_5_0.hlsl 📎 0xC6FA129B.ps_5_0.hlsl 📎 0xC3126A03.ps_5_0.hlsl

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all of the ui shaders have different hashes which is weird

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:56 PM

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can you send me your save

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 5:56 PM

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ye

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you can probably ignore the systemsave one

📎 saves.zip

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 5:56 PM

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thx

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Master_Detective_Archives__RAIN_CODE_21.12.2024_18_59_59.png

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hmm

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 6:01 PM

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damn

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 6:01 PM

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do you have a working console with f10

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 6:01 PM

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I think so

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yea

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so

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if I do hdr ui composite mode 0

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the ui looks fine and the game looks weird

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oh shit

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 6:06 PM

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if I do ui composite mode 0 both ui and game are washed out, since its just pq in an scrgb container

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do you still have -dx12 as launch param

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 6:08 PM

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seems like the backbuffer color space is sdr

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 6:08 PM

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dry hollow do you still have -dx12 as launch param

no

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sk does something

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I just used a raw scrgb frame buffer and it works now

dry hollow Dec 21, 2024, 6:13 PM

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ehh

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cool that it works now

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but I don't know why

light mist Dec 21, 2024, 6:14 PM

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MarioShrug

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trying to do 2.2 gamma correction via autohdr causes some weird stuff

fossil narwhal Dec 21, 2024, 8:23 PM

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@dry hollow if you can find the lutbuilder and sample shader; I can add it to my project real fast

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I think mlg found a sample shader that I already fixed, but there might be a diff lutbuilder

dry hollow Dec 23, 2024, 12:01 AM

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fossil narwhal <@208960001807613952> if you can find the lutbuilder and sample shader; I can ad...

What are you working on

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Like a universal ue4 mod?

fossil narwhal Dec 23, 2024, 12:01 AM

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shortfuse figured out

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how to fix the lutbuilder

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and not have to modify trhe samle shader

dry hollow Dec 23, 2024, 12:01 AM

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I can send you the lutbuilder at least sometime for sure

dry hollow Dec 23, 2024, 12:01 AM

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fossil narwhal and not have to modify trhe samle shader

Ohh nice

fossil narwhal Dec 23, 2024, 12:02 AM

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so for wu kong

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you can have a proper mod

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read #1282729343721803837

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since you said the issue was just sample shaders

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and yea, collecting more lutbuilders

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for the universal ue addon

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since sample shaders are no longer an issue

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there arnt that much lutbuilders

orchid thunder Dec 24, 2024, 10:03 PM

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Has anyone tried to use this process for Psychonauts 2 (steam version)?

candid rain Dec 25, 2024, 2:26 AM

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Doesn't work but eventually it will

twilit current Dec 28, 2024, 12:59 AM

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did anyone manage to add hdr to satisfactory using this?

candid rain Dec 28, 2024, 1:25 AM

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twilit current did anyone manage to add hdr to satisfactory using this?

#1321685184852135967

brave briar Jan 30, 2025, 11:34 PM

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This is nice

warped oak Feb 1, 2025, 5:10 PM

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Can someone remind me - how do i force aces2000 with a UE5 game that has native HDR already?

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I'm trying to see if I can get Riven to do it

prisma jackal Feb 1, 2025, 5:35 PM

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warped oak Can someone remind me - how do i force aces2000 with a UE5 game that has native ...

#1228738531216719956 message

warped oak Feb 1, 2025, 8:08 PM

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prisma jackal https://discord.com/channels/1161035767917850784/1228738531216719956/12372134526...

I figured I wouldn't need the whole mod since that one is for forcing native HDR rather than tweaking existing native HDR, or at least I thought

fossil narwhal Feb 1, 2025, 10:23 PM

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yea you need to force outputdevice 4 or 6 (depending on hdr10/scRGB)

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only way to do that is UUU or UE4SS

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you can also fake your edid

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set your peak nits to 2000 in windows

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and unreal engine will automatically go to aces2000

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@warped oak

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faking it in windows might be the easiest way to go about it

warped oak Feb 1, 2025, 10:26 PM

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Thank you!

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i'll try

warped oak Feb 1, 2025, 10:38 PM

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fossil narwhal faking it in windows might be the easiest way to go about it

hm still seems to do aces1000 interesting

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with faking it in windows

fossil narwhal Feb 1, 2025, 10:38 PM

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interesting

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did you try the UE mod

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with native hdr off?

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native hdr is just the lutbuilder going down a different code path

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so native hdr off + renodx unreal engine might be better

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but if that doesnt work, output device 4 or 6 is da wei

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unless they have a custom tonemapper; then idk

warped oak Feb 1, 2025, 10:44 PM

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i'll try the UE mod in a bit

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just wanted to see if there was a quick way to force it

fossil narwhal Feb 1, 2025, 10:46 PM

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weird that forcing 2000 on the edid did nothing

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ue4ss and uuu is scuffed by modern standards

light mist Feb 1, 2025, 10:55 PM

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yea

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only advantage is it doesn't cause overbright uis or remaster artifacts

fossil narwhal Feb 1, 2025, 10:56 PM

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native hdr still does that

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sometimes

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shipped from a game

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because they use custom UI elements instead of UE's

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and grief things

warped oak Feb 2, 2025, 3:25 AM

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fossil narwhal weird that forcing 2000 on the edid did nothing

I used Doge's set_maxtml with maxcll at 2000 and verified it said 2000 in vesa display app

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but yea didn't work 😦

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game looks pretty nice with aces1000 though

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If you play it, try adding the sdr emulation with 203 nits, and use bt.2390

brave briar Feb 19, 2025, 2:06 AM

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I should try this out

fossil narwhal Feb 19, 2025, 2:33 AM

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we have #1321685184852135967

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better off trying that out

vestal mango Mar 5, 2025, 9:19 PM

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I know I went gravedigging replying to this message, but could you give a tl;dr on how to do this if you remember? PCGW says no HDR and I can't find any mods here for it.

light mist Mar 5, 2025, 9:21 PM

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check the pins, but

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https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods#multi-game-mods

GitHub

Mods

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try this first

dry hollow Mar 5, 2025, 9:48 PM

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vestal mango I know I went gravedigging replying to this message, but could you give a tl;dr ...

yea try and see if the universal Unreal Engine RenoDX mod works for the game, that should be the better solution now, more customizable and accurate

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and easier to use, especially in Atomic Hearts case

crude flare Mar 7, 2025, 6:18 AM

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dry hollow yea try and see if the universal Unreal Engine RenoDX mod works for the game, th...

It doesn't for me

dry hollow Mar 7, 2025, 8:46 AM

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crude flare It doesn't for me

can you enable the lutbuilder dump option in the advanced settings of the UE mod? needs a restart

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if thats successful, the mod should create a renodx folder in the directory of the mod with some files, please share them

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sometimes it's another issue though, you might want to try setting B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS to output size

crude flare Mar 7, 2025, 9:43 AM

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dry hollow can you enable the lutbuilder dump option in the advanced settings of the UE mod...

The problem is that the game crashes on startup for me, with reshade and the mod next to the exe

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dry hollow Mar 7, 2025, 10:32 AM

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crude flare The problem is that the game crashes on startup for me, with reshade and the mod...

oh.. can you share the reshade.log

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do you have rt on

crude flare Mar 7, 2025, 9:32 PM

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📎 ReShade.log

crude flare Mar 7, 2025, 9:32 PM

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dry hollow do you have rt on

Yes, will try turning off

crude flare Mar 7, 2025, 9:38 PM

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crude flare Yes, will try turning off

same error

dry hollow Mar 7, 2025, 9:41 PM

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@primal cargo can you maybe help out

primal cargo Mar 7, 2025, 9:47 PM

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06:37:24:119 [ 9688] | INFO | [RenoDX] mods::shader::OnCreatePipelineLayout(will insert cbuffer 13 at root_index 20 with slot count 17 creating new size of 39, newParams: 0000000038008590 )
06:37:24:119 [ 9688] | INFO | [RenoDX] mods::shader::OnInitPipelineLayout(Using injection index for 00000000380DB650: 20, cbvIndex:30 )
06:37:24:119 [ 9688] | INFO | [RenoDX] mods::shader::OnCreatePipelineLayout(will insert cbuffer 13 at root_index 3 with slot count 17 creating new size of 21, newParams: 000000000F8037F0 )
06:37:24:119 [ 9688] | INFO | [RenoDX] mods::shader::OnInitPipelineLayout(Using injection index for 00000000380E39D0: 3, cbvIndex:30 )

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it's those capability tests

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i'll have to do some work on reshade itself to improve compatibility

vestal mango Mar 10, 2025, 4:51 PM

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I was looking to maybe buy atomic heart finally as well if renodx works with it 👀

dusky condor Apr 15, 2025, 5:59 PM

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@fossil narwhal gonna integrate Dragonwilds into this?

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or maybe it already works idk what unreal version it is

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fuck wrong channel, I guess respond (if you want to) in renodx: unreal lmao

feral willow Apr 15, 2025, 6:16 PM

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It should probably be locked

fossil narwhal Apr 19, 2025, 8:34 PM

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I made a mod last week

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@dusky condor https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/180

dusky condor Apr 19, 2025, 8:42 PM

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that message was from a few days ago 😉

fossil narwhal Apr 19, 2025, 8:48 PM

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weird

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the thread didnt show up

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until today

fossil narwhal Apr 19, 2025, 9:04 PM

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but yea idk, this seems kind of depricated now

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@eternal wren lock this maybe?

#Unreal Engine native HDR shader fix for games without official HDR support