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I meant did the application close instantly before you notice the error messages?
no it just says paused
i sent vid
here
no I got it
that means it might have purely crashed
well the application closed
but the cmd didnt
it said paused so it prob crashed ye
i reseted my windows
and re started
i mean my pc
try open event viewer
then select Application and find some error log on the said program
ok sec
make sure it is the python program used when running your vonovox
i only launched it with
start.bat

I'd assume it is correct
I made a model on weights and downloaded it, I’m currently reading the meta data and I’m trying to understand why it saying my model is 86 epoch, I’m new to rvc and do not have a computer, is 86 normal? I’m seeing a lot of models that claim they are 300+ epoch, If anyone is able to help me, please feel free to either dm me or reply to this message
hello
can u help me
if possible.
I can’t talk rn
Ok
Should be the micro phone you are using to speak in the vc
I’m not sure, I’ve never used a voice changer
But if your like me, I would mess around and find out to see what works
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
did u read the whole guide or u just installed the voice changer and went for it
uh
i think i did all whats required
but my voice cant be heard
in voice
I would search for a couple tutorials
!howtoask
- Check Docs & Guides: Your answer may already be in the AI Hub Docs or the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1159513888199540817 channel.
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Tell your:
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- Screenshot: A picture of the full error message is very helpful.
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- Be Polite & Patient: Our helpers are volunteers. You may ping the
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Too crazy. 
I love my rvc outdated and code falling apart
Sarcastic.
How i could create My own voice mod
You wouldn't wanna train your own voice model, right? Instead, you might be looking for a realtime voice changer like W-Okada or Vonovox.
What is your PC GPU? Also, make sure to read help guidelines before start asking. 
If i want to train My own voice
the 3.4.0 works fine on me, but the 3.5.0 and main branch still throw error on portaudio even with that attempt #✨│ai-help message
How do u easily switch branch?
@viral mason^
hi, can someone tell me where to find actual high quality rvc models with hours and hours of training? Iv ebeen looking everywhere for a realistic rvc model and the most i can find is 600 epochs (which i assume is related to time and quality)? im not sure what im doing.. thanks
all the models ive tried sound robotic and have the ai tics
What does this mean?
The guy wants to make a model of his own voice
You don't need to let me know.
You asked him and he never answered
It's not that deep. If he didn't answer in time, I could just go help another user instead.
There isn't anything deep about it all I did was answer your question when he didn't
Sorry if I upset you
I'll go
As a helper, it's my duty to help people when they need. I never gatekeep other people from helping, you can help people as you can, but when you say like this, it sounds like you're mad and you wanted to get things done real quick without diving into much deeper issues, what they needed and what they wanna do. 
i dont know what was the previous ngrok's limit but it seems gradio is well exciding it in just one page refresh
I haven't touched RVC in like half a year. So since you guys took down Ilaria RVC, is there another hugging face page that has RVC? I'd rather not use colab compute units
yo what did you do to my boy wormy
No one took down the Ilaria RVC from Hugging Face; the Ilaria RVC and certain RVC fork spaces are broken currently. #📰│dev-updates message There are other online options that can do AI cover, if not always be Google Colab or Kaggle, the one I usually use is Weights.com.
So you're friend with him? That's good to know.
bro what did i do to you
he just wanted to tell you that a guy wanted to make a model of his own voice
as as HELPER, that's your job to help with him instead of beefing with people for no reason
Is there any difference in voice quality between Vonovox and W-okada?
Great. Now you can report that to an admin if you think what I did was wrong. 
and i will
@round fog
this helper is beefing with people instead of acting professional and actually helping someone with RVC
i have screenshots if he deletes his messages
i can't send them here because i dont have level 5 or whatever
but i can dm them to you
who do you refer as "him"? please ping him here or tell him to post a thread in https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1192011222023950368
@viral mason
and the guy is @frail pagoda
who wants to make his own model
and this is the ai help chat so he thought to ask for help here
just need reassurance/clarification if the models will have the same quality on both platforms is there no help here during the beef? 🙏 😭
sorry man idk about those things
if i knew i'd help you
this, right? well I have told him to instead post in https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1192011222023950368 , so still waiting for his response
lol it's okay no worries just asking anyone in general
you don't care about Namari?
and that he's being actively rude to Wormy and me for no reason
Wow I actually just read on the beef and this was so unecessary wth
what? I didnt see namari respond anything to @frail pagoda
like they didn't sound mad lol?
im talking about wormy
how rude that namari is being to wormy
because im not letting anyone talk to my friend that way
for seemingly no reason
yeah
and that this guy is "helper" of the week is also bizarre
when he acts like this
for again
seemingly no reason
mods always win in things like this so good luck on the report 
dude gets irritated when asked a question
and thats why i hate servers like these for that reason
are you referring that it started there? #✨│ai-help message
well let's wait for @frail pagoda response instead of arguing on namari & wormy fighting each other for no reason 
I don't think wormy fought anything to be fair...
it was one sided...
I think it's just rude
it was just namari being rude to wormy for no reason
can you read
just read the messages and you'll see that it was entirely one sided
nah it's just a pointless thing
yeah
it was pointless for namari to do that
and you're pointless too for doing nothing
im trying to be nice but you're just so oblivious
i can't seem to reason with you at all
im sorry, it's just that i can't do this anymore
you wont get my point
im trying so hard to not seem like a guy who's just mean to everyone because they made fun of my friend
because im trying to get an understanding of what happened
instead im getting pointless answers and namari being rude to me for whatever reason
im trying to seem nice so that maybe you can understand what's actually going on
and maybe you can let wormy off the hook for just existing
and getting rude treatment for no reason
ye I dont really get why you want to argue on (this) thing
im not trying to
you just wont get my point
im trying to nice
its just..
you're not understanding what's happening at all
I can't fully take responsibility on this, please any other <@&1159293140440723499> take a look on this
of course you cant
moderator of the week
stop with that bot command
lmao
i bet namari and 💔 🥀 are just Sapphire or ChatGPT in disguise
Is a clean 58-minute dataset enough to build a good model?
more than enough
you're good
What should I set the batch size to with my nvidia a100 gpu?
6 would be good
Are you sure about this? Someone told me I should set it to 30.
WHAT
30 is way too much for basically anything
6 is good for larger datasets
4 is good for shorter
the lower the better?
How many second packets should I divide the data into?
10 seconds is good ?
i have no idea
or the dude could just do 8
yeah
the dude has a a100 gpu he can train a pretrain on that one
also if he trains a pretrain do Batch size 1 or yea 8
or smaller 16
can i get some help
i was following this guy's video and midway through testing my mic just randomly stopped working and no longer appears on device manager https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81KYc8AAmus
i already restarted my pc multiple times and reconnected my mic
trash and outdated video
-realtime
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
click the 3rd one
i dont get it gng 😭
literal guide
Topic: Training RVC Models
Subtopic: Data
Is it better to have little data (20-30min), but that data is very clean and consistent, or have more data (2+ hours) with less quality total?
anyone got experience with that?
i dont see anything that mentions the problem im currently having
He stated that "tutorial videos from YouTube" are usually outdated, only telling you to install old and outdated version of W-Okada despite their video upload dates. What is your PC GPU?
im using integrated graphics
vega 8
Any integrated GPU, whether if it's Intel UHD Graphics or AMD Radeon (TM, but no RX), is not capable of running AI. There's another online option if you'd like to try.
You can send your screenshot to here now.
the chat is too long, but basically what I found after countless trials and errors is:
- Python 3.11.9
- Pytorch 2.7.1 with GPU support:
First this command:
pip install torch torchvision torchaudio --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu118
then verifying it actually worked:
python -c "import torch; print(torch.__version__, torch.cuda.is_available(), torch.cuda.get_device_name(0))"
Does setting it to 4 reduce the quality in long datasets?
can anyone help me get a voice changer working?
What is your PC GPU? Are you looking for W-Okada realtime voice changer?
yes actually exactly that
and i got an i7 13700k
and for gpu a 4060
ventus
wait the voice changer does gpu instancing? 🤔
i thought itd be more heavy on the cpu ngl
Any AI program like W-Okada is more intensive on GPU than CPU, although they sometimes use CPU if no GPU present.
-realtime
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
Deiteris' fork W-Okada is the most stable version, Tg Develops one has more recent features than Deiteris, while Vonovox has different overall UIs. These are decent to use.
We can do it here.
anddd i dunno where to get that version mb
Nah, I didn't mean to join "voice chat" this time, I meant to text in this channel. 
You can try download this one. https://docs.aihub.gg/realtime-voice-changer/local/deiteris-w-okada-fork/#download-nvidia-on-windows
ogee bet
Let me know if you have any issue downloading or running the program or looking for best settings. 
What's wrong?
i dunno which one im supposed to download 😢
On Deiteris W-Okada AI Hub guide website, click this and this on Hugging Face.
welp thatll take 3 mins
or well i hope
btw so what do i do w the old version?
do i simply delete all its files btw? or do i also have to uninstall- although i doubt it did a setup when i first tried to boot it
You can now delete the old one to save your disk space.
Go inside the folder, and you should see a file/program named MMVCServerSIO. That's W-Okada program. Double click to run the program.
this is wsay more diff than the previous version
but yeap doing thar n
oh there we go
its downloading the base stuff now
If you see this specific W-Okada opens your browser after downloading pretrain models, it's completely normal.
oge B]
also w-Okada or vonovox
welp it download the shit and sent me to a web
@hallow thistle i closed the command prompt
The web in this context also means browser. As what I said, this W-Okada runs as a web.
Closing W-Okada's terminal means to close the program, which would completely terminate the program.
oh-
mb
alright i rebooted a new one
so i have to keep the web open along w the terminal?
Yes.
I just come home from workplace. You can now send your screenshot to here.
whats the diffrence between 3.4.0 and 3.5.0 applio
oh im sorry welcome back
when he switches from cpu to his 4060, the cmd terminal force closes and he gets an sio error
after this issue happens once, the voice changer terminal won't open again
it closes my terminal when im trynna switch to my gpu
yeap
3.5.0 has realtime voice changer
This sounds like either the problem with your GPU, the program itself or an antivirus interfering. Have you updated your GPU driver recently?

Make sure your NVIDIA GeForce GPU driver is up-to-date and set your antivirus (e.g. Microsoft Defender) to allow "MMVCServerSIO.exe" too.
.
@primal valley U.
U
it infact WAS
of the new quest
U
U NEARLY SPOILED THE NEW QUEST STORY FOR ME 😭

What should I set the batch size to with my nvidia a100 gpu? (58 minute clean dataset)
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Hello 🙂 Looking to connect with MLOps Engineers for cloud AI workflows (ComfyUI, GPU scaling). Main issue: T5TextEncoder load. Any leads appreciated!
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- Tutorial Used: Link to the guide you were following.
- Screenshot: A picture of the full error message is very helpful.
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use a different model
You sound rushed today. Also, it's best to share your screenshot to here.
Bonjour je voudrais comment sa marche pour utiliser l'IA parce que je parle pas Anglais désolé
This server is English only.

il est que en anglais en peux pas l'utilisé en français?
Google's service, offered free of charge, instantly translates words, phrases, and web pages between English and over 100 other languages.
You can try use a translator like "Google Translate" on this one.
I don't know, I don't speak French. It would be better to go for English because most members here talk in this language. 
ITS BEENM
1 MONTH
Since ive been trying to make it work
my pc specs are not even bad bruh
3080ti

yup yup
What about screenshot? This is the second time I repeat this step.
sir
there is no error
im using wokada
the voice changer just dont work
no soundwhen i talk
in vc
-rt
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
that issue also happens on 3.4.0 when opening the Applio UI, as well as your workaround but without disabling cache works on me
use the translate feature
Can I have the link please?
No, but like what are you looking for? French voice model on which program?
It's to make a Japanese animated series in the graphic style of Captain Tsubasa but it has nothing to do with it, it's a series invented for fan-mad
It's to make a Japanese animated series in the graphic style of Captain Tsubasa but it has nothing to do with it, it's a series invented for fan-mad
Some people might not know that Deiteris' fork W-Okada does convert every pth file into safetensors when you upload a pth file to it. I'm not sure about DirectML one, but NVIDIA Deiteris W-Okada does this. 
do you mean for dubbing? making the whole fanmade animation video would take more effort though
So is this about an image model or voice model? Your statements seem confusing. 
I want the 1983 version?
This is the only voice model found in #1175430844685484042. If the voice model you're looking for doesn't exist, you may go and request one in #1159289738314919936 or else train one by yourself.
did they got medic from tf2?
@hallow thistle you still haven't told me which one to choose for better quality though-- w-okoda or vonovox
Since I have no good PC to test for myself which one has better audio quality between Deiteris W-Okada, Tg Develops or Vonovox, so I can't say much about it. Some people say Vonovox is better at audio quality but harder to use since its UI is more of professional.
- Check Docs & Guides: Your answer may already be in the AI Hub Docs or the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1159513888199540817 channel.
- Search the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1192011222023950368 : Look for existing posts that solve your issue. Do not invade someone else's post.
Tell your:
- Full GPU Name: (e.g.,
NVIDIA RTX 3060) - Operating System: (e.g.,
Windows 11) - Detailed Description: What were you trying to do and what went wrong?
- Tutorial Used: Link to the guide you were following.
- Screenshot: A picture of the full error message is very helpful.
To maintain a lega, safe & ethical community, we will NOT provide help for:
- (E girl, as an example) catfishing/trolling, scamming, impersonation.
- NSFW/Porn.
- Any illegal activities.
Requests for these topics will be ignored and may result in moderation action.
- Be Polite & Patient: Our helpers are volunteers. You may ping the
Helpersrole once. - English Only: Please keep all conversations in English.
i use vonovox yet i'm note seeing that good of a quakity
Ehh, that has have to happen with settings there or just the voice model itself has that quality.
Why did I get pinged I just woke up
yo, i tried downloading the W-okada but it downloaded beatrice, when i try to fetch my mic on it it says "failed to fetch" can somone help me?
What is your PC GPU? Did you follow any tutorial video outside from my discussion?
The only W-Okada version that accepts Beatrice model alongside RVC is the original W-Okada, which is outdated and not preferred to try.
My gpu is AMD ryzen 5 4000G
This is CPU, not GPU. The GPU name is something like AMD Radeon RX or NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090. To check your GPU, open Task Manager.
my gpu is AMD Radeon
AMD Radeon (TM) (without RX in its name) is an integrated GPU, which is not suitable for any AI task. There's another online option if necessary.
what's the another online option?
Last update: September 6, 2025
why is my client demo voice laggin so much
what yt link did you get this from
like the voice wil say somthing den lag then say somt else
any voice changer u get from a youtube link is really old like over a year
what gpu do u have
is there like a new yt for this to make it
no
on a shit one since my other pc gettin upgraded
!howtoask
- Check Docs & Guides: Your answer may already be in the AI Hub Docs or the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1159513888199540817 channel.
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Tell your:
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NVIDIA RTX 3060) - Operating System: (e.g.,
Windows 11) - Detailed Description: What were you trying to do and what went wrong?
- Tutorial Used: Link to the guide you were following.
- Screenshot: A picture of the full error message is very helpful.
To maintain a lega, safe & ethical community, we will NOT provide help for:
- (E girl, as an example) catfishing/trolling, scamming, impersonation.
- NSFW/Porn.
- Any illegal activities.
Requests for these topics will be ignored and may result in moderation action.
- Be Polite & Patient: Our helpers are volunteers. You may ping the
Helpersrole once. - English Only: Please keep all conversations in English.
How bad is that "one"? Does that PC lack any decent GPU, and if there is one so what is that GPU name?
real bad is like a amd 550 seris it my old pc
AMD Radeon RX 550, right? This is the low one. While this GPU can run W-Okada at least, it's more likely to struggle with a game. So, an online option is more preferred.
i tried downloading vac but it still says the same error
yep
but it fully tweaked so it can but i just use this pc for streams and my other for games
You can send your screenshot to here for better context.

when i tried to connect the vac and the normal mic it does the same error
I don't remember Deiteris fork W-Okada looking like this.
This is fork W-Okada.

so i need to run on website?
Better follow the Kaggle guide. I'm about to sleep now.
k
Mine does
brooooooooooo
the voicechanger dont work
for me
cmon bru
i need help, i tried testing some anime girl voice changer but when i tried another it said "failed to fetch"
also the voice dosen't work
when i try to record it also says failed to fetch
@long forge
What should I set the batch size to with my nvidia a100 gpu? ( 58 minute dataset)
Tbh I wouldn't accept help from that particular helper, they're really mean sometimes
yup :{
only people ive found very helpful
were u and nick
If you put your mic settings like this on the voice changer
Input: regular headset/headphones
Output: vac lite
Then I'd say mess around with what mic on discord would have it to through
I use a complex setup with VB cable and voice meeter and fl studio ect
So it's different from just using it as intended
i need VB cable and voice meeter?
Nah, unless you plan on adding extra effects to your voice while using the realtime voice changer
i will use voicemeeter
Alright
cause when i try to use my VB cable it does a strange noise
and my friend started laughing cause of that
it's sorta required with the setup I have unless there's a way to get a second vac lite
also with what I have I use voicemod and Fl studio for the extra fx
I tried using vonovox but it said path could not be found
No path found n cmd closes
Vonovox
I see you're on windows 10/11
Be sure to run setup.bat/start.bat without admin privilages
please try running setup.bat normally without admin and let me know what happens
Got it im not home now but i will tb
Alright :)
guys is C:\Users\Downloads\MMVCServerSIO_win_onnxgpu-cuda_v.1.5.3.15\MMVCServerSIO safe?
what gpu do u have
MMVCServerSIO_win_onnxgpu-cuda_v.1.5.3.15 is a 2 year old original wokada version
you can upload it to virustotal (fixed it)
im guessing windows 10/11 right?
alr thx alot my man for the fast response
ye
11
-realtime
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
Vonovox is much more suggested for windows nvidia
It's in active development and got performance updates
It's all inside the guide, please be sure to read it because it has multiple steps instead of a one click installer
if you have vb audio cable, uninstall it from windows app settings, that guide will give vac lite which is better
oh and is vb audio cable needed for both?
the voice models used in orignal wokada are the RVC (Retrieval-based-Voice-Conversion) v2, Vonovox can use the same type, that is also in #1175430844685484042 , so yes
vb audio cable can give issues to some users on windows, its suggested to uninstall it
all the info given in youtube/video tutorials are from 2023 lol
is there an alternative to vb cable that isn't vac lite and voice meeter
yeah, there are newer ones who give the same exact download and step from 2023, that's why you got a 2 year old version lol
they just recycle videos to make them appear newer
I need a third cable that isn't the one that causes issues lol
😭
Which real time should i use though
alr thx
With good realistic voices
you don't need vb audio cable or anything off youtube/video tutorials
You need to read the Vonovox guide and let us know for issues :)
I be trolling with a friend with girl voices on cod
when i try changing voice it says "failed to fetch"
ew die
and the voice dosen't work with the VB one
could you send a screenshot possibly?
I make vids lmao
thaanks you helped alot but is the one i said usable?
But voice mod is annoying mw
ohh that's a really old version lol, I see why it's broken
what's the recent version?
the most recent ones are these three, I saw u said u have AMD so u can use either the tg fork Okada or Deiteris W Okada
-rt
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
oh
@viral mason i finnaly made the voice changer work
where i can download?
click one of the guides and the download link for the one you clicked should be a little bit below, just scroll down and find the amd version
vonovox for now is only nvidia
k
@viral mason
like your actual voice?
i will be back here if the same error happens
u got voicemod? try turning off hear myself if u do have voicemod
no I know but do u have voicemod installed at all
no
why the pitch so high 😭
So i should use vokoda over vonovox
BRO VOICEMOD IS TERRIBLE WHO TF USES IT
isnt 12 the reccomended one
found it
my friend uses it...
Me😭
I didn’t know voicemod was off till i joined this server lmao
i donwloaded the file but i can't find the right thing for open it
-rt
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
it should be mmvcserversio
what file is located?
if u downloaded Wokada Deiteris fork
hm?
found it
no image perms 
@viral mason my output should be line1 right
and in discord what it should be?
for input
and output
after using vocie changer
idk man I use a diff setup to the regular one
for discord it'd be diff for me and u
in the voice changer input is ur headset and output is line 1
which of these did you download btw
the last one i think
now i need to know how to add custom voice
found it
now i need to know how do i put on discord
i tried testing with my friend and it didin't worked
how i do it?
for any voice just go here and download one, I'd make a new folder with nothing in it to extract each voice u download to that folder
https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1175430844685484042 then do this
but i need to know how to put on discord now
i tested with my friend and didin't worked
I am not sure on what settings would work as I use a different setup compared to the normal one, I would mess around with changing your input and output on discord until it works
how did you make it worked?
what
can sou say the diference of the input and output? so i can test it
im kinda dumb
try your input as line 1 and your output as whatever pair of headphones you're using
if that doesn't work maybe swap what I said
u can try this too @hybrid pawn
HEY sorry on applio where do i put the models ?
i tried it
😕
switch different mic
on other input and output i hear no sound but that one thing that i use on the input is headphones
but still i just hear normal voice not the model
it didin't worked too
what are you using applio on? is it locals or on a website like kaggle
I can't help with local
hm I'd ask some mods maybe, they're more knowlegable than I am, maybe try someone like Lista or Sussyboi
they're online rn so I'd try and asking whoever is on
you need a seperate web?
Is there no local voice cloning for windows 11 os?
there is but I have no idea on how to use local stuff
why doesnt discord get my voice when i talk?
I was replying to a diff person lol
what gpu do u have, and did u get the voice changer from a yt link
i replied on it because i am using local with the given ip address
4070 super i dowloaded it from github
k
ah I can't help with local
I mean wait
shit
local voice changer I can help but nothing else
could u provide the link?
why is there two links?
wrong link
but I looked at this and it's outdated
I would use either Vonovox if you're looking for quality or either Wokada, that being tg fork or deiteris fork, Vonovox I'd say is the best
since u have nvidia right
-rt
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
is vonovox easy to set up with voices and settings?
it is yes
all u do once u download it is extract the zip, open the folder, then click the setup.bat after that is complete close that setup and open the start.bat
could u send me the dowload i cant find it
sure!
what do i do i did setip64 now?
yo
thanks
np!
btw all released are here
yo can someone help me here
open setup64 as admin, right click and run as administrator
uhh
nah jk
it's installed now right?
I was on a call
y
u make no sense
use these 0.3 block size, 2.0 second extra, 0.15 crossfade
always turn teh pitch down to 0 unless it's a female model
idk why Dr hasn't fixed that still defaulting to 12
that's way too high for 98 percent of models
ye
wat is
crossfade
Stitches your words together so they flow like a real person
found it
Pretty sure
Yea
Try it out
I'm gonna be in the shower so I can't type after this
it became
worse
after doing these setting
idk if its the crosfade or extra
i dont
remember
thats worse part
😭
oh ye i was
block size fault
Ok was it only the block size?
What one did u change it to
Like the number
next version, I just forgot
but most people are going to move the pitch when loading a new model either way
How come models are still frequently uploaded here? is there any training colab that still works today?
Hi, how can I make my pth command clone my friends' voices?
ye
Hello, it was not My intention to brother You, i just wanted to know how to train My own voice model so i could use it. Thank You very much to anyone who can help me and sorry for the inconvenience.
you aren't an inconvenience
it's namari and the "moderator" of the week that's an inconvenience to this server
and i don't want to get banned for voicing my opinion
but i don't really care
Do people have a preference over vonovox or okada? In terms of quality. I feel like okada seems to have better organic results (maybe a skill issue on my part) but okada has a little more delay with is annoying
the realtime clients merely runs the rvc inference stuff in realtime, which obviously has to be the same across them in order for the model to work, all of them are exactly the same
huh really:
it cant be different otherwise the model wont work
why vonovox has way less delay though
because its way better optimized
but its running the same rvc inference
wokada also uses the same rvc infer stuff but its worse in performance due to using code from 2023

Idk how to really explain it but Vonovox makes the models sound better than on deiteris
More realistic kinda
thats placebo
?
its impossible
i tried your configs above, lowering blick to 0.3 doesnt work
it needs to run the same rvc infer code as the other clients
Any reason why:
it has to be the same infer code as mainline
My ears don't lie to me tho, I've tried the same model on both Deiteris and Vonovox and it sounds better in vono

Honestly its a little wierd cuz like
Sometimes i tune the voice to perfection to where I feel like "Okay now its good"
Then I try on vrchat and people are like "That's too robotoic yara ayra"
Like no way
Weird
Is it the way you're speaking maybe, you get robotic results if you speak like a robot
Either I'm crazy or everyone online nowadays have an aluminum hat and think everything is AI (To be fair it is but still)
Its hard to find deep female voices that aren't popstars tho. Most of the voices in weights are anime or just not that good
you can just train one
I might as well
How many hours of content is the average to get a good voice?
I can probably search some asmr youtube channels with one
no asmr is trash for rvc
get normal speech
i'd say 1-2 hours of casual speech is fine
A podcast then. I will have to do a lot of cuts but if that's what it takes-

@tranquil smelt not the server to preach in
I made a model on weights and downloaded it, I’m currently reading the meta data and I’m trying to understand why it saying my model is 86 epoch, I’m new to rvc and do not have a computer, is 86 normal? I’m seeing a lot of models that claim they are 300+ epoch, If anyone is able to help me, please feel free to either dm me or reply to this message
anyone here use index tts
still can't install it? 🙂

Seriously? You have been asking me this for some times now. I know you are so far frustrated trying to get the program to work, but you haven't told me what was the issue and the screenshot of the issue. Otherwise, I won't be able to identify your issue from your words alone. 
It's okay. It's just that two other users were messing around trying to make me look guilty. If you wouldn't mind, we can get this going. 
Yes, please i am interested
What is your PC GPU?
If i'm not mistaken, it's a 3080 10 GB
Epoch is a unit that measures the training cycles of an AI model, in this context, RVC, usually can be achieved during model training. The epoch number means how much data cycles are trained in an RVC voice model. Some voice models would say they have over 1000 epochs, but that doesn't always mean they will have better audio quality. https://docs.aihub.gg/rvc/resources/training/#epochs--overtraining
You can train a voice model with that VRAM size locally. Here's the guide and where to download Applio RVC. https://docs.aihub.gg/rvc/local/applio/#nvidia-on-windows-precompiled
Last update: August 9, 2025
Ok, thank You very much, i'm going to get to work.
You're welcome. Let me know if you have any issue trying to install/run the program or looking for best settings. 
how is it that models are still frequently uploaded here? is there any training colab that still works today?
To this day, members here still upload their voice models to this server, most recently around 1-3 models daily. To submit your voice model, there's this channel #outdated-model-maker-role.
-colab
Google Colab is a Cloud (Remote Good PC) Service. While the Free plan provides up to 12 hours of daily usage, the GPU is typically available for only about 4 hours each day on average.
by IA Hispano
Google Colab
by Hina
Google Colab
by Eddy
Google Colab
by Eddy
Google Colab
by Deiteris & Hina
Google Colab
by Shiro & Eddy
Google Colab
by Nick088
Google Colab
by Nick088
Google Colab
by Jarredou & Makidanye
Google Colab
These are known working Colab notebooks.
I used "voc_fv4" model in MSST UVR5 to remove noises and microphone clashing sounds from speech audios, and it somehow effective despite being advertised for extracting clear vocals while leaving instrument track as its own. 

But then, I pasted these extracted/filtered audio files into REAPER, edit them, merge and export into one single audio file, and upload it to Weights to train a voice model, instead of actual Applio Colab/Kaggle notebook. 
Never train on weights..
I will try real Applio for training, but that time I tested on how would that model sounded like if inferencing. 🔥
should i use vonovox or w okada modded which is better overall?
could you please show a screenshot of your settings?
!give-media-perms 1h @mortal geode
There are different Wokada forks (modified versions), and vonovox has different support,
What’s your pc gpu and operating system?
Ok
nvidia rtx 3060
windows 11
uninstall vb audio cable from windows app settings, get vac lite from https://docs.aihub.gg/realtime-voice-changer/local/vonovox/#virtual-audio-cable
Last update: September 6, 2025
What’s your pc gpu?
4060
Are you using it while playing a game?
wdym
yeah vonovox is suggested more on windows nvidia
-realtime
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
try reading the vonovox guide and lmk :)
are you using vonovox in a game roleplay or discord vc?
okay thank you 🙏
In games, lower the graphics to minimum 1080p 60fps cap
ok
so this should fix yh
also increase the block size to 0.6 too
if you follow all the 3 suggestions i gave, yes
Users reported vb audio cable causing random issues on windows
Ok thank you
Yw and let me know :)
yw and lmk for issues
I will
it works now ty
Hello. I'd like to ask about the batch size. I don't understand what or how should I calculate the batch size. I currently have it set to 3. However I'm seeing that higher batch size generatese better results (batch size of 8, as written on Applio local app) and lower is slower and has a worse learning curve?
I just wanted to align it with my GPU, so I set it to 3 (very low-end notebook GPU), so now I'm questioning, whether I set it too low and if I should've gone higher. I don't even see my GPU nor CPU used as uch as I thought.
I coudn't find a website that'd explain these terms used in RVC better. (more from a tech standpoint), if anyone has some good resources, I'd be glad if you shared them, thank you.
yw!
Also is there any info on pretraind models? I was told not using anything that isn't OG one, but I used nowie 3.1, so I'm wondering whether I shuld restart the training or not. For now I'll continue with what I have, but I'd like to know from someone who's already done a model and has more experience in it.
for the settings what should I keep the same and what should I play with?
or like can you recommend what I should change settings wise? i know there were optimal settings for each gpu with w okada deiteris
If you’re playing any game wirh the voice changer, play lowest graphics 1080p 60fps cap, then show a screenshot of ur current settings
any reason to use snowie3.1?
because I read the Applio website then I checked the docs in the guides section but I'm still not sure which one to choose.
default pretrain
?
use the default one, there's also my spin-v2 retune you can try
So I should use the ones from Hifi-Gan folder, right?
at least those are supposed to be OG ones (unless I'm wrong)
unfortunately most of those pretrains were made without knowing much about how to make them + an important part of the training was broken for over a year
you dont need to select the default, it is on by default
so I don't neeed to check anything and it'll automatically use them, also may I ask if I can switch to another one or start anew?
I read that I should retrain from 0
pretrain is the foundation for training
you can use a different one if you choose 'custom pretrain' and select some other D/G files
you should not train a voice model without a pretrain
I thought it'd automatically choose one. At least on the mainline one it altuomatically chose one of those Hifi-Gan models when I checked the cmd.
yes, the default pretrain is selected automatically
hey all, is VCClient legit?
that's great than, thank you 👍
Hello, i think we recently talked in #✦│chat , be sure to not trust video/youtube tutorials
vcclient reminds me of an old version of original wokada
please elaborate more
!howtoask
- Check Docs & Guides: Your answer may already be in the AI Hub Docs or the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1159513888199540817 channel.
- Search the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1192011222023950368 : Look for existing posts that solve your issue. Do not invade someone else's post.
Tell your:
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- Tutorial Used: Link to the guide you were following.
- Screenshot: A picture of the full error message is very helpful.
To maintain a lega, safe & ethical community, we will NOT provide help for:
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This is a general ai server, so there are multiple programs and version, I hope you understand
so what is the best AI Voice-changer for pranks/trolling? and is there an edited guide?
I wanna pretend to be US presidents n stuff online, not for catfishing or anything
okay gotcha, btw i started it and it worked but i decided to use a different model now everytime i click start it warms up and my desktop freezes
Also Im Geforce 3070
i didn’t touch anything it just started freezing after i switched to a different model
I mean if yall not answering my questions I should just shuffle back to the youtube tutorials
just be more patient bro you’ll get a response soon
that’s great, I’m guessing you’re on windows 11/10
-realtime
Guides for Programs that use RVC Models in Realtime for Calls/Games
A Realtime Voice Changer with similar performance to Wokada Deiteris Fork, with extra features, but supported only for Nvidia GPUs on Windows. and without cloud options GUIDE
A personal fork (modified version) of Wokada Deiteris Fork, it just adds some Quality of Life improvements to it like supporting Spin Embedder and Audio Effects. Don't expect too much about it since the creator made it originally as a personal project. GUIDE
Most suggested WebUI with the best general support for many platforms. GUIDE
For Windows Nvidia, Both Wokada Deiteris fork and Vonovox have similar performance & quality. Users should read the pros and cons for both and choose based on their differences, such as UI and Vonovox's paid effects.
Read Wokada Deiteris Fork Pros&Cons & Vonovox Pros&Cons
These options are not recommended for use.
Not suggested, older versions in youtube tuts are even way worse. GUIDE
The program is worse compared to the ones above, and much less updated. GUIDE
Vonovox would be the best for your setup, please read the guide and let us know for any issues
Yep ive looked at the doc, should I go local or cloud?
Is there a Vonovox tutorial?
local vonovox is the best for you, cloud is remote good pc, but your pc is good enough
yup! It’s in the docs, and the bot above gives the direct docs link to that guide
that’s weird, you sure your windows and gpu drivers are up to date?
yup absolutely, it’s a must
if you had vb audio cable, it gives issues and you should uninstall it, it’s better to only follow the steps in the docs
is the python.exe supposed to be at high priority in task manager?
!howtoask
- Check Docs & Guides: Your answer may already be in the AI Hub Docs or the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1159513888199540817 channel.
- Search the https://discord.com/channels/1159260121998827560/1192011222023950368 : Look for existing posts that solve your issue. Do not invade someone else's post.
Tell your:
- Full GPU Name: (e.g.,
NVIDIA RTX 3060) - Operating System: (e.g.,
Windows 11) - Detailed Description: What were you trying to do and what went wrong?
- Tutorial Used: Link to the guide you were following.
- Screenshot: A picture of the full error message is very helpful.
To maintain a lega, safe & ethical community, we will NOT provide help for:
- (E girl, as an example) catfishing/trolling, scamming, impersonation.
- NSFW/Porn.
- Any illegal activities.
Requests for these topics will be ignored and may result in moderation action.
- Be Polite & Patient: Our helpers are volunteers. You may ping the
Helpersrole once. - English Only: Please keep all conversations in English.
it is a discord bot
sapphire is a common discord bot, we have custom commands
so it isn't a generative AI?
iirc it does have some ai moderation to help us, but it’s not like a chatbot that you can ask help to
big brain
should i put any of the extra features on?
play with the pitch, there’s no perfect value
use extra time as 3.0, and ap bwe 48k upscaler could help with quality
RNN Noise Reduction helps if you have any noise issues
it was the upscaler that kept crashing me so i unchecked that now its saying this
@low shard sorry for the tag but can you help me
OK so I've used it for a bit but the program keeps on cutting off mid speaking, especially in my higher pitch voices such as mickey mouse. How to fix?
I'm back, are there any issues?
Sure if you elaborate
Could you show a screenshot of your current settings?
here
Etche baas is an ex staffer iirc, it's not an helper
That's Vonovox, it's for Nvidia Windows only currently
It's in the AI Hub Docs
Play with the pitch, please show the settings below too
alr can u tell me how to install vonovox i know there is a tut but im new to windows and all dat if u can help me set it u[
download, unzip, run https://huggingface.co/dr87/vonovox/resolve/main/Vonovox169.zip
is there anyway to slow down the voice? When ever I speak it comes out faster then I actually speak
You forgot an important step
Vac lite, and the whole setup
Can't just start it without setup
The setup part is for Vonovox but yea🤷♀️
i did
@ember fiber Hello!
I deleted your message since paid rvc model commissions aren't allowed in this server since a while, there isn't really a reliable service for those
This is an help channel to ask for help, for example on how to make an rvc model yourself
or you could try #1159289738314919936 for free
I hope you understand :)
what should i use? w-okada deiteris fork or Vonovox?
im using it while gaming on a dual setup. my second pc has a rtx 2060 and im using it only for the voice changer.
dc and ingame
Vonovox is currently in active development and still gets some features and performance updates even if it's closed source, it would be suggested for windows nvidia users
?
Which do you recommend? Spin or Contentvec?
@low shard I cannt train still 😭 the method of reloading it is just not working anymore
we need a new applio notebook or something like the 3.4.0 notebook
I wanna kms
If you think notebook 3.4.0 doesn’t have issues with ngrok, you’re wrong. Ngrok has simply been updated and has become more limited. That’s why it doesn’t matter which version you’re on—using ngrok with Gradio is no longer possible now.
Even just having TensorBoard open for about 10 or 15 minutes will simply end up the same way.
so rvc is dead unless it's local
killing myself
?
You can use Localtunnel, although it takes a while to load at the beginning, but then it becomes stable.
Nick already implemented it, you just have to add it manually https://github.com/IAHispano/Applio/pull/1155
is it as simple as adding code to the current kaggle notebook or
I'm not the best at learning new stuff unless it's simple
after opening the Applio UI, wait for exactly a minute then you can continue working on
it is actually ngrok lowering the http requests/min limit for free plan
they killed all potential of ai
how to reach lv 5?
where would I put this? before cell 1 2 or 3
by yapping
ok but not in the way to spam
i dowloaded VB audio virtual apps to use but it's not working
get a better virtual cable here https://docs.aihub.gg/realtime-voice-changer/local/deiteris-w-okada-fork/#a-virtual-audio-cable-vac-is-what-you-need-to-use-the-realtime-voice-changer-on-discord--games
Last update: September 6, 2025
thx i will try
patience
3? It’s simply replacing the cell.
64a if you're using ARM snapdragon laptop, otherwise just 64
bruh i forgot
ayo
wtf
why i my laptop can't hear everythings?
i can't hear the music
ohhh
i know it
what should i choose?
see the perf meter beside the model pic and also the terminal window if there are error messages
hmmm
i talked in a voice chat and didn't hear the voice changer voice repeat am i finish?
hmm but my mic still working
but idk i am talking with my real voice or with voice changer
my lap will explosion in 5 minute
i think my lap is to low so i can't
sad
oh, so copy the code onto cell 3
just do this?
that laptop spec doesn't seem to be capable enough to run voice changer, please read the requirements here before considering to upgrade the pc
Last update: September 6, 2025
tl;dr it won't be capable without dedicated gpu (Nvidia or AMD, not the intel integrated graphics)
yes
what is this nonsense?
When you run it, it will show you an IP address above the link. Use that IP address as your password.
why does each update have to keep getting more complex just to run this software 
umm
I just realized that launching three tunnels with Localtunnel sometimes fails, so I merged Localtunnel and Horizon, and it seems to work.
what does this even mean
the links I got look different
idk how to get this stupid pasword is there another option for kaggle
show a video example if you can I'm too stupid and tired for this rn
dms if u feel more comfortable
I feel like an old person asking all these questions and not being able to understand 
if not sure you can stick on ngrok with the "wait a minute" workaround
literaly does not work at all, I tried multiple times
only worked once
try again with the old code
then show & explain the problem if it still persists on you
Hmmm
Tomorrow
I'm gonna explode into a billion pieces like a Lego if anything else goes wrong
cant close out of pay

my English is such